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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Ricketts Family Annoyance Thread
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on: May 24, 2013, 01:52:04 PM
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So in the Sbox we just now (god, what the hell) remembered this and that Brett Taylor posted a bunch of gay porn on this here message board during the Great CubsTalk War. Holy shit That sure was a lot of words to say Ricketts = businessman. Tell me more about this Great CubsTalk War, please. It was a lot of fighting about which Cubs site was better. It was weird. In retaliation, some people from CubsTalk started posting tranny porn on the board here and, I believe, TJ Brown had to call Andy at work to remove it. And we were all like, "You have Andy Dolan's phone number?!" Great days in Desipio History. ETA: I think I was still in college at that point. Holy crap. |
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 03:34:34 PM
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You forgot that the Astros (who are located in Texas) could pick a high-school pitcher from Texas (which is in Texas), because that's often how major-league teams make decisions.
Stewart (the aforementioned HS pitcher) could just come in under the slot better than Appel. The fact that he's from Texas is coincidental. I know. I was just being an ass and giving you a hard time. |
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 01:29:14 PM
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It looks like the Cubs won't be able to draft the guy the Astros draft.
What's clear is that Appel, Gray and Bryant will all be available when Houston picks. And, should Houston choose one of those three, only two of them will then be available for the Cubs. That's where things get a bit more complicated... If the Astros pick Appel first, of the three mentioned above only Gray and Bryant will remain for the Cubs to pick from. If, on the other hand, Houston goes with Gray, only Appel and Bryant will be left. It's also possible, however, (though the consensus seems to be that it's probably less likely) that the Astros will go with Bryant with their pick, or even someone else entirely. In that case, the Cubs would most likely be picking between Appel and Gray (and possibly Bryant, if the Astros didn't pick him). You forgot that the Astros (who are located in Texas) could pick a high-school pitcher from Texas (which is in Texas), because that's often how major-league teams make decisions. They could also take a different player than any of the ones previously mentioned. This would leave the Cubs a different list of available players to select. This is a developing story, so stay tuned for further analysis of these scenarios. What happens if the phone lines to the Cubs front office are cut the day of the draft and all of their cell phone batteries run out and their legs fall off? That could have an impact on the draft. Those kinds of scenarios are exactly why Theo wrote "The Cubs Way." |
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
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It looks like the Cubs won't be able to draft the guy the Astros draft.
What's clear is that Appel, Gray and Bryant will all be available when Houston picks. And, should Houston choose one of those three, only two of them will then be available for the Cubs. That's where things get a bit more complicated... If the Astros pick Appel first, of the three mentioned above only Gray and Bryant will remain for the Cubs to pick from. If, on the other hand, Houston goes with Gray, only Appel and Bryant will be left. It's also possible, however, (though the consensus seems to be that it's probably less likely) that the Astros will go with Bryant with their pick, or even someone else entirely. In that case, the Cubs would most likely be picking between Appel and Gray (and possibly Bryant, if the Astros didn't pick him). You forgot that the Astros (who are located in Texas) could pick a high-school pitcher from Texas (which is in Texas), because that's often how major-league teams make decisions. They could also take a different player than any of the ones previously mentioned. This would leave the Cubs a different list of available players to select. This is a developing story, so stay tuned for further analysis of these scenarios. |
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 10:31:43 AM
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Probably Appel. Maybe Gray. Definitely Appel or Gray. Except maybe Bryant. Could be Bryant. But definitely Appel. It's looking more like whichever of Appel or Gray the Astros don't take. Unless it's Bryant. Or unless the Astros take Bryant. Let's see how it plays out. I'm feeling like the Cubs will get Appel or Bryant. Astros will probably go with someone who will sign under slot, which won't be Appel. That'd leave the Cubs to grab him, or Bryant if he's still there and they like his bat enough. |
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 07:58:50 AM
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Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were. I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over. You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin. As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks. I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here. the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro? Repeating yourself doesn't make your argument more true. |
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread
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on: May 22, 2013, 03:52:58 PM
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This old Huey post made me laugh, again. Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton any good? It’s clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes’ inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles. Templeton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he’s already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate. Garry's comparable players. 1. Dick Groat (911) 2. Royce Clayton (909) 3. Dave Bancroft (879) * 4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875) 5. Dick Bartell (873) 6. Tony Taylor (870) 7. Jack Glasscock (868) 8. Bill Russell (863) 9. Orlando Cabrera (860) 10. Joe Tinker (860) * * - Signifies Hall of Famer His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro. http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtmlDPD. Heh heh. That list is rife with phallicism. Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell? Bill James is a pervert. This ensuing discussion of "Dave Bancroft" actually not being even close to a phallic name made me laugh, rather loudly. And when you think about it, Templeton is pretty phallic. Temples are on the sides of a person's head, which is a slang term for oral sex, which typically involves hard weiners. |
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread
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on: May 22, 2013, 03:43:51 PM
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Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were. I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over. You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin. As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks. I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here. His earlier lens was to compare him against current shitty players. Being a Cubs fan is awesome. |
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