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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 03:24:15 PM
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You forgot that the Astros (who are located in Texas) could pick a high-school pitcher from Texas (which is in Texas), because that's often how major-league teams make decisions.
Stewart (the aforementioned HS pitcher) could just come in under the slot better than Appel. The fact that he's from Texas is coincidental.
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 12:12:51 PM
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One thing's for sure, he's the best SS of our (sans Stew) generation
"Smalley's best season statistically was 1950. He posted career highs in home runs (21), RBI (85), runs (58), hits (128) and doubles (21), including hitting for the cycle on June 28. He struck out a league-leading 114 times. He made 51 errors (the last time a player made at least 50), but he also led NL shortstops in total chances per game, as he had in 1949, and in double plays." In 1953 they replaced him with some guy named Banks. Terwilliger-to Smalley-to Addison Street?
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 10:52:29 AM
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Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were. I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over. You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin. As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks. I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here. the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro? I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out. He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 10:42:49 AM
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Probably Appel. Maybe Gray. Definitely Appel or Gray. Except maybe Bryant. Could be Bryant. But definitely Appel. It's looking more like whichever of Appel or Gray the Astros don't take. Unless it's Bryant. Or unless the Astros take Bryant. Let's see how it plays out. If the Astros didn't take either Appel or Gray, it's because they took Stewart. Probably Appel. Maybe Gray. Definitely Appel or Gray. Except maybe Bryant. Could be Bryant. But definitely Appel. It's looking more like whichever of Appel or Gray the Astros don't take. Unless it's Bryant. Or unless the Astros take Bryant. Let's see how it plays out. I'm feeling like the Cubs will get Appel or Bryant. Astros will probably go with someone who will sign under slot, which won't be Appel. That'd leave the Cubs to grab him, or Bryant if he's still there and they like his bat enough. Kohl Stewart's a HS power pitcher from Texas. He might sneak in there for Houston.
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread
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on: May 23, 2013, 08:08:39 AM
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Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were. I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over. You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin. As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks. I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here. the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro? Because his OPS is .684 while Barney's is .695? so? it was over .720 last week. He's on a cold streak. Historically, he heats up when the weather does. Based on monthly splits over his career, he should start heating up soon.
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread
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on: May 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
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Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were. I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over. You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton, so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin. As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks. I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here. the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread
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on: May 22, 2013, 02:36:15 PM
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Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing. When's Rozzi going to start hitting? Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here. Many Szczvs and Vuuttrs knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slorer that day, I can tell you! I reserve judgement until I hear from Dan Klob.
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General Category / Desipio Lounge / Re: Starlin Castro Unbridled Manlove with a Side Order of Sploogetasticism Thread
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on: May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
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Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were. I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over. Since he's still only 23, I don't think your original expectations are outside the reaalm of feasibility yet. Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
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