The Fukkake Bukkake thread

[Tinker to Evers to Chance]

Bort already sorted this out for us.

[Eli]

Do we really have anyone we wouldn't trade besides soto, castro, colvin?

Cashner.

Seriously...Soto is untradeable?

Even if my dislike is misguided, he's not that good.

I'd trade Soto before Marmol.

Yeah, good hitting cheap catchers grown on trees. I see your point.

Doumit, Olivo, Buck, Jaso, Suzuki, Paulino, Barajas, Napoli...

All catchers hitting more or less as well as Soto this year that are cheap.

Edit: Napoli and Doumit make about $3.6, so that's actually not that cheap, though probably no more than Soto will get for arbitration.

I'm sorry, R-V was searching for the Good Hitting and Cheap Catcher Tree.  You showed us the Mediocre, Old and Ronny Paulino Catcher Tree.  Try again.

[PenPho]

Do we really have anyone we wouldn't trade besides soto, castro, colvin?

Cashner.

Seriously...Soto is untradeable?

Even if my dislike is misguided, he's not that good.

I'd trade Soto before Marmol.

Yeah, good hitting cheap catchers grown on trees. I see your point.

Doumit, Olivo, Buck, Jaso, Suzuki, Paulino, Barajas, Napoli...

All catchers hitting more or less as well as Soto this year that are cheap.

Edit: Napoli and Doumit make about $3.6, so that's actually not that cheap, though probably no more than Soto will get for arbitration.

I'm sorry, R-V was searching for the Good Hitting and Cheap Catcher Tree.  You showed us the Mediocre, Old and Ronny Paulino Catcher Tree.  Try again.

All of those dudes are hitting about as well as Soto this year.

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[Eli]

All of those dudes are hitting about as well as Soto this year.

Why are you using this year as a benchmark?  John Buck barely has a lifetime OPS above .700.  It means nothing that he has finally managed to string together 150 or so non-shitty at-bats.  Miguel Olivo has also sucked for his entire career. 

Also, even if we were just talking about this year, Ronny Paulino's OPS is more than 100 points lower than Sotos, which apparently -- to you -- means he's hitting "about as well as Soto."  Ryan Doumit's OPS is 80 points lower than Soto's.  Same thing there.  Kurt Suzuki's is 70 points lower.  That's not "about as well."

[PenPho]

All of those dudes are hitting about as well as Soto this year.

Why are you using this year as a benchmark?  John Buck barely has a lifetime OPS above .700.  It means nothing that he has finally managed to string together 150 or so non-shitty at-bats.  Miguel Olivo has also sucked for his entire career.  

Also, even if we were just talking about this year, Ronny Paulino's OPS is more than 100 points lower than Sotos, which apparently -- to you -- means he's hitting "about as well as Soto."  Ryan Doumit's OPS is 80 points lower than Soto's.  Same thing there.  Kurt Suzuki's is 70 points lower.  That's not "about as well."

Should I use last year as a benchmark?

Regardless, I'm not going to win any stat-off with you, so if those dudes are all worse, fine.

My point was just that I don't know how you classify Soto as untradable.

[CT III]

Anyway, to go back to BH's post, I would trade Colvin in a heartbeat if he was going to bring back a good major league player in return.

[BH]

Anyway, to go back to BH's post, I would trade Colvin in a heartbeat if he was going to bring back an overpaid old second baseman good major league player in return.

Hendry'd.

[PenPho]

Anyway, to go back to BH's post, I would trade Colvin in a heartbeat if he was going to bring back an overpaid old second baseman good major league player in return.

Hendry'd.

Never too late to jump on that Felipe Lopez signing he missed out on.

[CT III]

Anyway, to go back to BH's post, I would trade Colvin in a heartbeat if he was going to bring back an overpaid old second baseman good major league player in return.

Hendry'd.

Brian Roberts!`

[BH]

Anyway, to go back to BH's post, I would trade Colvin in a heartbeat if he was going to bring back an overpaid old second baseman good major league player in return.

Hendry'd.

Brian Roberts!`

Luis Castillo is coming off the DL.

[R-V]

All of those dudes are hitting about as well as Soto this year.

Why are you using this year as a benchmark?  John Buck barely has a lifetime OPS above .700.  It means nothing that he has finally managed to string together 150 or so non-shitty at-bats.  Miguel Olivo has also sucked for his entire career.  

Also, even if we were just talking about this year, Ronny Paulino's OPS is more than 100 points lower than Sotos, which apparently -- to you -- means he's hitting "about as well as Soto."  Ryan Doumit's OPS is 80 points lower than Soto's.  Same thing there.  Kurt Suzuki's is 70 points lower.  That's not "about as well."

Should I use last year as a benchmark?

Regardless, I'm not going to win any stat-off with you, so if those dudes are all worse, fine.

My point was just that I don't know how you classify Soto as untradable.

How about, since most of those guys are like 30 years old, you use their career numbers instead of 2.5 months of this season? This doesn't take an advanced degree in statology to figure out.

I don't think Soto's untradeable, but he's a still-kinda-young catcher with a career .818 OPS. Those don't grow on trees like Miguel Cabreras do.

[PenPho]

All of those dudes are hitting about as well as Soto this year.

Why are you using this year as a benchmark?  John Buck barely has a lifetime OPS above .700.  It means nothing that he has finally managed to string together 150 or so non-shitty at-bats.  Miguel Olivo has also sucked for his entire career.  

Also, even if we were just talking about this year, Ronny Paulino's OPS is more than 100 points lower than Sotos, which apparently -- to you -- means he's hitting "about as well as Soto."  Ryan Doumit's OPS is 80 points lower than Soto's.  Same thing there.  Kurt Suzuki's is 70 points lower.  That's not "about as well."

Should I use last year as a benchmark?

Regardless, I'm not going to win any stat-off with you, so if those dudes are all worse, fine.

My point was just that I don't know how you classify Soto as untradable.

How about, since most of those guys are like 30 years old, you use their career numbers instead of 2.5 months of this season? This doesn't take an advanced degree in statology to figure out.

I don't think Soto's untradeable, but he's a still-kinda-young catcher with a career .818 OPS. Those don't grow on trees like Miguel Cabreras do.

Whatever, dude...we settled that argument minutes ago.

[Eli]

Anyway, to go back to BH's post, I would trade Colvin in a heartbeat if he was going to bring back a good major league player in return.

Maybe Hendry can package Colvin and Soto together to snare another bullpen arm that can complement John Grabow and REALLY anchor the pen once and for all.  Chad Qualls, perhaps?

[Richard Chuggar]

Anyway, to go back to BH's post, I would trade Colvin in a heartbeat if he was going to bring back a good major league player in return.

Maybe Hendry can package Colvin and Soto together to snare another bullpen arm that can complement John Grabow and REALLY anchor the pen once and for all.  Chad Qualls, perhaps?

Bobby Howry.  He's probably available.