The Atheist Communist Caliphate Made Flesh, Spread the Clusterfuck Around Thread

[morpheus]

I bought, and read all of PJ O'Rourke's books when I was a young man - he's "written" (i.e. cobbled together from newspaper and magazine articles) eight or ten or them, I guess.  I found them very entertaining indeed.

I tried to read one again the other day, and simply couldn't.  Whatever it was I saw in them before is gone, and it ain't coming back.

Surely one is supposed to start off as a goat-wool-sock-wearing wishy-washy peacenik liberal, and slowly harden up into a borderline fascist as one gets older - not the other way round?

And then some people are just fascists, with the borderline just a dot in the rear view mirror of their zeppelin.

I see what you did there.

EDIT: DPD

[5laky]

So anyway, Clamato and beer fucking rules.

[*In a Nutsack]

So anyway, Clamato and beer fucking rules.

The hell's Clamato?

[ChuckD]

So anyway, Clamato and beer fucking rules.

The hell's Clamato?

Do they not have Google in Louisiana?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamato

Clamato (a portmanteau of "clam" and "tomato") is a trademark of the Mott's company which denotes a drink made primarily of reconstituted tomato juice concentrate and reconstituted dried clam broth, with a dash of high fructose corn syrup, and USDA Red 40 to maintain a 'natural' tomato colour.

[Thrillho]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/791jsebl.asp?pg=1

P.J. O'Rourke with an excellent, excellent post-mortem...

I remain unconvinced that the Right is dead for the foreseeable future.  My generation is unfamiliar with Reagan's America and even more unfamiliar with the role of socialism in the Twentieth century.  We have grown up in a Centrist America and never seen the results of empowering one side of the political spectrum.  You can bet that after four years, we will become familiar with the consequences of the Leftist paradigm shift.  Obama may well be an eight year president, as the basic fluctuations in the economy virtually assure that he will preside over an economic upturn.  But, don't expect the Left to be in power for ever.

Sooner or later, all the youth the voted for Obama will graduate from college, get jobs, and find themselves in the nations upper tax brackets.  Once they are the ones paying for it, the notion of a greater role for government won't be nearly as popular.  Sooner or later, all those idealists will see that involving the feds in healthcare and social welfare will work about as well as involving them in education and energy has. 

This too shall pass.

I really, really hope you're correct on this.

While I remain of the opinion that the Obama administration will prove far more pragmatic than ideological, the Right should already have plenty of opportunity to get its hackles up within the next few months when the Obama stimulus package winds up being more about infrastructure spending than captial gains relief.

That said, and disastrous "Leftist paradigm shift" or no, I'm not sure how you expect them to be taken seriously by anyone who is able to remember the last 8 years.

It's not just the GOP's massive failure at governance (though, to be fair, it's mostly that).

It's also conservatives' simple failure at living up to their own rhetoric.

So, when the GOP predictably cries "balanced budgets" or "tax and spend", we'll remember who presided over the magic disappearing budget surplus/$400-billion-plus deficit.

When the GOP warns of the manifest danger to personal liberty posed by an encroaching Federal government, we'll still remember them as the party of shitting all over habeas corpus and wiping with the 4th Amendment.

And, when the GOP urges "caution" in all matters progressive and chants a mantra of "social engineering," we'll also remember that, when faced with one of the most un-Burkean adventures in memory (the neo-con dream of "transforming the Middle East" via a democratic domino effect), the self-proclaimed intellectual heirs of Burke stood athwart history yelling "Let's roll."

[*In a Nutsack]

So anyway, Clamato and beer fucking rules.

The hell's Clamato?

Do they not have Google in Louisiana?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamato

Clamato (a portmanteau of "clam" and "tomato") is a trademark of the Mott's company which denotes a drink made primarily of reconstituted tomato juice concentrate and reconstituted dried clam broth, with a dash of high fructose corn syrup, and USDA Red 40 to maintain a 'natural' tomato colour.

Sure.  I sorta used it by asking the Desipio messageboard.

[TDubbs]

So anyway, Clamato and beer fucking rules.

The hell's Clamato?

Do they not have Google in Louisiana?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamato

Clamato (a portmanteau of "clam" and "tomato") is a trademark of the Mott's company which denotes a drink made primarily of reconstituted tomato juice concentrate and reconstituted dried clam broth, with a dash of high fructose corn syrup, and USDA Red 40 to maintain a 'natural' tomato colour.

Sure.  I sorta used it by asking the Desipio messageboard.

Clamato is one of the primary and (in my opinion, which means everything) the best way to make a bloody mary.  Other than pummelling her vagina with my wang.  Although I haven't tried it with beer. 

[*In a Nutsack]

So anyway, Clamato and beer fucking rules.

The hell's Clamato?

Do they not have Google in Louisiana?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamato

Clamato (a portmanteau of "clam" and "tomato") is a trademark of the Mott's company which denotes a drink made primarily of reconstituted tomato juice concentrate and reconstituted dried clam broth, with a dash of high fructose corn syrup, and USDA Red 40 to maintain a 'natural' tomato colour.

Sure.  I sorta used it by asking the Desipio messageboard.

Clamato is one of the primary and (in my opinion, which means everything) the best way to make a bloody mary.  Other than pummelling her vagina with my wang.  Although I haven't tried it with beer. 

I hate Bloody Marys.

[CT II]

So anyway, Clamato and beer fucking rules.

The hell's Clamato?

Do they not have Google in Louisiana?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamato

Clamato (a portmanteau of "clam" and "tomato") is a trademark of the Mott's company which denotes a drink made primarily of reconstituted tomato juice concentrate and reconstituted dried clam broth, with a dash of high fructose corn syrup, and USDA Red 40 to maintain a 'natural' tomato colour.

Sure.  I sorta used it by asking the Desipio messageboard.

Clamato is one of the primary and (in my opinion, which means everything) the best way to make a bloody mary.  Other than pummelling her vagina with my wang.  Although I haven't tried it with beer. 

I hate Bloody Marys.

Pussy.

[5laky]

So anyway, Clamato and beer fucking rules.

The hell's Clamato?

Do they not have Google in Louisiana?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamato

Clamato (a portmanteau of "clam" and "tomato") is a trademark of the Mott's company which denotes a drink made primarily of reconstituted tomato juice concentrate and reconstituted dried clam broth, with a dash of high fructose corn syrup, and USDA Red 40 to maintain a 'natural' tomato colour.

Sure.  I sorta used it by asking the Desipio messageboard.

Clamato is one of the primary and (in my opinion, which means everything) the best way to make a bloody mary.  Other than pummelling her vagina with my wang.  Although I haven't tried it with beer. 

That's a damn good idea. Next time you're at Jewel pick up one of those cans that Wheezer posted. It's like drinking a nacho cheese dorito.

[Oleg]

So anyway, Clamato and beer fucking rules.

The hell's Clamato?

Do they not have Google in Louisiana?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clamato

Clamato (a portmanteau of "clam" and "tomato") is a trademark of the Mott's company which denotes a drink made primarily of reconstituted tomato juice concentrate and reconstituted dried clam broth, with a dash of high fructose corn syrup, and USDA Red 40 to maintain a 'natural' tomato colour.

Sure.  I sorta used it by asking the Desipio messageboard.

Clamato is one of the primary and (in my opinion, which means everything) the best way to make a bloody mary.  Other than pummelling her vagina with my wang.  Although I haven't tried it with beer. 

That's a damn good idea. Next time you're at Jewel pick up one of those cans that Wheezer posted. It's like drinking a nacho cheese dorito.

A bloody mary just isn't a bloody mary without a splash of Guiness.

[Bonk]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/791jsebl.asp?pg=1

P.J. O'Rourke with an excellent, excellent post-mortem...

I remain unconvinced that the Right is dead for the foreseeable future.  My generation is unfamiliar with Reagan's America and even more unfamiliar with the role of socialism in the Twentieth century.  We have grown up in a Centrist America and never seen the results of empowering one side of the political spectrum.  You can bet that after four years, we will become familiar with the consequences of the Leftist paradigm shift.  Obama may well be an eight year president, as the basic fluctuations in the economy virtually assure that he will preside over an economic upturn.  But, don't expect the Left to be in power for ever.

Sooner or later, all the youth the voted for Obama will graduate from college, get jobs, and find themselves in the nations upper tax brackets.  Once they are the ones paying for it, the notion of a greater role for government won't be nearly as popular.  Sooner or later, all those idealists will see that involving the feds in healthcare and social welfare will work about as well as involving them in education and energy has. 

This too shall pass.

I really, really hope you're correct on this.

While I remain of the opinion that the Obama administration will prove far more pragmatic than ideological, the Right should already have plenty of opportunity to get its hackles up within the next few months when the Obama stimulus package winds up being more about infrastructure spending than captial gains relief.

That said, and disastrous "Leftist paradigm shift" or no, I'm not sure how you expect them to be taken seriously by anyone who is able to remember the last 8 years.

It's not just the GOP's massive failure at governance (though, to be fair, it's mostly that).

It's also conservatives' simple failure at living up to their own rhetoric.

So, when the GOP predictably cries "balanced budgets" or "tax and spend", we'll remember who presided over the magic disappearing budget surplus/$400-billion-plus deficit.

When the GOP warns of the manifest danger to personal liberty posed by an encroaching Federal government, we'll still remember them as the party of shitting all over habeas corpus and wiping with the 4th Amendment.

And, when the GOP urges "caution" in all matters progressive and chants a mantra of "social engineering," we'll also remember that, when faced with one of the most un-Burkean adventures in memory (the neo-con dream of "transforming the Middle East" via a democratic domino effect), the self-proclaimed intellectual heirs of Burke stood athwart history yelling "Let's roll."

Not that I totally disagree, but to be fair, the Senate was mostly 50-50 until 2006 (including a stretch of 2001-02 in which they Republicans briefly lost power entirely), and the Democrats have controlled Congress since 2006 and haven't done a thing. Except let their approval rating drop to 10 percent.

Congress has as much to do with an administration's outcome as the Commander in Chief.

[Oleg]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/791jsebl.asp?pg=1

P.J. O'Rourke with an excellent, excellent post-mortem...

I remain unconvinced that the Right is dead for the foreseeable future.  My generation is unfamiliar with Reagan's America and even more unfamiliar with the role of socialism in the Twentieth century.  We have grown up in a Centrist America and never seen the results of empowering one side of the political spectrum.  You can bet that after four years, we will become familiar with the consequences of the Leftist paradigm shift.  Obama may well be an eight year president, as the basic fluctuations in the economy virtually assure that he will preside over an economic upturn.  But, don't expect the Left to be in power for ever.

Sooner or later, all the youth the voted for Obama will graduate from college, get jobs, and find themselves in the nations upper tax brackets.  Once they are the ones paying for it, the notion of a greater role for government won't be nearly as popular.  Sooner or later, all those idealists will see that involving the feds in healthcare and social welfare will work about as well as involving them in education and energy has. 

This too shall pass.

I really, really hope you're correct on this.

While I remain of the opinion that the Obama administration will prove far more pragmatic than ideological, the Right should already have plenty of opportunity to get its hackles up within the next few months when the Obama stimulus package winds up being more about infrastructure spending than captial gains relief.

That said, and disastrous "Leftist paradigm shift" or no, I'm not sure how you expect them to be taken seriously by anyone who is able to remember the last 8 years.

It's not just the GOP's massive failure at governance (though, to be fair, it's mostly that).

It's also conservatives' simple failure at living up to their own rhetoric.

So, when the GOP predictably cries "balanced budgets" or "tax and spend", we'll remember who presided over the magic disappearing budget surplus/$400-billion-plus deficit.

When the GOP warns of the manifest danger to personal liberty posed by an encroaching Federal government, we'll still remember them as the party of shitting all over habeas corpus and wiping with the 4th Amendment.

And, when the GOP urges "caution" in all matters progressive and chants a mantra of "social engineering," we'll also remember that, when faced with one of the most un-Burkean adventures in memory (the neo-con dream of "transforming the Middle East" via a democratic domino effect), the self-proclaimed intellectual heirs of Burke stood athwart history yelling "Let's roll."

Not that I totally disagree, but to be fair, the Senate was mostly 50-50 until 2006 (including a stretch of 2001-02 in which they Republicans briefly lost power entirely), and the Democrats have controlled Congress since 2006 and haven't done a thing. Except let their approval rating drop to 10 percent.

Congress has as much to do with an administration's outcome as the Commander in Chief.

Stupid balance of powers provision in the Constitution.

[JD]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/791jsebl.asp?pg=1

P.J. O'Rourke with an excellent, excellent post-mortem...

I remain unconvinced that the Right is dead for the foreseeable future.  My generation is unfamiliar with Reagan's America and even more unfamiliar with the role of socialism in the Twentieth century.  We have grown up in a Centrist America and never seen the results of empowering one side of the political spectrum.  You can bet that after four years, we will become familiar with the consequences of the Leftist paradigm shift.  Obama may well be an eight year president, as the basic fluctuations in the economy virtually assure that he will preside over an economic upturn.  But, don't expect the Left to be in power for ever.

Sooner or later, all the youth the voted for Obama will graduate from college, get jobs, and find themselves in the nations upper tax brackets.  Once they are the ones paying for it, the notion of a greater role for government won't be nearly as popular.  Sooner or later, all those idealists will see that involving the feds in healthcare and social welfare will work about as well as involving them in education and energy has. 

This too shall pass.

I really, really hope you're correct on this.

While I remain of the opinion that the Obama administration will prove far more pragmatic than ideological, the Right should already have plenty of opportunity to get its hackles up within the next few months when the Obama stimulus package winds up being more about infrastructure spending than captial gains relief.

That said, and disastrous "Leftist paradigm shift" or no, I'm not sure how you expect them to be taken seriously by anyone who is able to remember the last 8 years.

It's not just the GOP's massive failure at governance (though, to be fair, it's mostly that).

It's also conservatives' simple failure at living up to their own rhetoric.

So, when the GOP predictably cries "balanced budgets" or "tax and spend", we'll remember who presided over the magic disappearing budget surplus/$400-billion-plus deficit.

When the GOP warns of the manifest danger to personal liberty posed by an encroaching Federal government, we'll still remember them as the party of shitting all over habeas corpus and wiping with the 4th Amendment.

And, when the GOP urges "caution" in all matters progressive and chants a mantra of "social engineering," we'll also remember that, when faced with one of the most un-Burkean adventures in memory (the neo-con dream of "transforming the Middle East" via a democratic domino effect), the self-proclaimed intellectual heirs of Burke stood athwart history yelling "Let's roll."

Not that I totally disagree, but to be fair, the Senate was mostly 50-50 until 2006 (including a stretch of 2001-02 in which they Republicans briefly lost power entirely), and the Democrats have controlled Congress since 2006 and haven't done a thing. Except let their approval rating drop to 10 percent.

Congress has as much to do with an administration's outcome as the Commander in Chief.

Stupid balance of powers provision in the Constitution.

Well, I guess we'll get to see what they can do now.

[Oleg]

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/791jsebl.asp?pg=1

P.J. O'Rourke with an excellent, excellent post-mortem...

I remain unconvinced that the Right is dead for the foreseeable future.  My generation is unfamiliar with Reagan's America and even more unfamiliar with the role of socialism in the Twentieth century.  We have grown up in a Centrist America and never seen the results of empowering one side of the political spectrum.  You can bet that after four years, we will become familiar with the consequences of the Leftist paradigm shift.  Obama may well be an eight year president, as the basic fluctuations in the economy virtually assure that he will preside over an economic upturn.  But, don't expect the Left to be in power for ever.

Sooner or later, all the youth the voted for Obama will graduate from college, get jobs, and find themselves in the nations upper tax brackets.  Once they are the ones paying for it, the notion of a greater role for government won't be nearly as popular.  Sooner or later, all those idealists will see that involving the feds in healthcare and social welfare will work about as well as involving them in education and energy has. 

This too shall pass.

I really, really hope you're correct on this.

While I remain of the opinion that the Obama administration will prove far more pragmatic than ideological, the Right should already have plenty of opportunity to get its hackles up within the next few months when the Obama stimulus package winds up being more about infrastructure spending than captial gains relief.

That said, and disastrous "Leftist paradigm shift" or no, I'm not sure how you expect them to be taken seriously by anyone who is able to remember the last 8 years.

It's not just the GOP's massive failure at governance (though, to be fair, it's mostly that).

It's also conservatives' simple failure at living up to their own rhetoric.

So, when the GOP predictably cries "balanced budgets" or "tax and spend", we'll remember who presided over the magic disappearing budget surplus/$400-billion-plus deficit.

When the GOP warns of the manifest danger to personal liberty posed by an encroaching Federal government, we'll still remember them as the party of shitting all over habeas corpus and wiping with the 4th Amendment.

And, when the GOP urges "caution" in all matters progressive and chants a mantra of "social engineering," we'll also remember that, when faced with one of the most un-Burkean adventures in memory (the neo-con dream of "transforming the Middle East" via a democratic domino effect), the self-proclaimed intellectual heirs of Burke stood athwart history yelling "Let's roll."

Not that I totally disagree, but to be fair, the Senate was mostly 50-50 until 2006 (including a stretch of 2001-02 in which they Republicans briefly lost power entirely), and the Democrats have controlled Congress since 2006 and haven't done a thing. Except let their approval rating drop to 10 percent.

Congress has as much to do with an administration's outcome as the Commander in Chief.

Stupid balance of powers provision in the Constitution.

Well, I guess we'll get to see what they can do now.

Yes, we most certainly will.