Fuck its silent in here.......

[Gilgamesh]

I say onto reconciliation, which is supposed to kick into gear on Monday right?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/02/the_real_story_on_health-care.html

Chuck Todd of NBC made a superb point on "Hardball" last night that everyone should pay attention to. He noted that absolutely no one is proposing to pass a health-care bill under the "reconciliation process," that is, with a majority rather than 60 votes in the Senate.

Does that surprise you? Chuck's point is that the health care bill already passed the Senate with 60 votes last December. Democrats would use reconciliation only for a series of rather modest amendments to the overall bill. And he pointed out that some of those amendments (notably broadening the "Nebraska deal" on Medicaid relief for all states) are actually things the Republicans have called for. My hunch, judging from some of the things Rep. George Miller (D) of California said at the summit, is that Democrats may consider adding a few other Republican ideas to the reconciliation package.

I do not expect what I will call the Todd Clarification to stop Republicans from condemning the Democrats if they get a bill through with the reconciliation amendments. But shouldn't all of us be referring to them just that way—as "amendments" rather than as "a bill"? Todd’s point also brings home the fact that both houses have used a thoroughly conventional legislative process to get the bill this far. We might then begin to ask the obvious question: Why should we take it for granted that one election result in one state (Massachusetts) ought to be allowed to derail a year's worth of legislative work? In any event, my conservative friends have told me for years that my dear native state of Massachusetts is unrepresentative of the country. I don't hear them saying that now.

Kudos to Todd for stating a truth that just about all of us have missed.

I don't care! Teh Dems are RAHMING through their massive government takeover with death panels and zorses and zombies!

It's refreshing to hear some common sense on this bill.  Chuck Todd was a waste in my opinion, but he mildly looks better in my opinion after this.

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

I say onto reconciliation, which is supposed to kick into gear on Monday right?

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2010/02/the_real_story_on_health-care.html

Chuck Todd of NBC made a superb point on "Hardball" last night that everyone should pay attention to. He noted that absolutely no one is proposing to pass a health-care bill under the "reconciliation process," that is, with a majority rather than 60 votes in the Senate.

Does that surprise you? Chuck's point is that the health care bill already passed the Senate with 60 votes last December. Democrats would use reconciliation only for a series of rather modest amendments to the overall bill. And he pointed out that some of those amendments (notably broadening the "Nebraska deal" on Medicaid relief for all states) are actually things the Republicans have called for. My hunch, judging from some of the things Rep. George Miller (D) of California said at the summit, is that Democrats may consider adding a few other Republican ideas to the reconciliation package.

I do not expect what I will call the Todd Clarification to stop Republicans from condemning the Democrats if they get a bill through with the reconciliation amendments. But shouldn't all of us be referring to them just that way—as "amendments" rather than as "a bill"? Todd’s point also brings home the fact that both houses have used a thoroughly conventional legislative process to get the bill this far. We might then begin to ask the obvious question: Why should we take it for granted that one election result in one state (Massachusetts) ought to be allowed to derail a year's worth of legislative work? In any event, my conservative friends have told me for years that my dear native state of Massachusetts is unrepresentative of the country. I don't hear them saying that now.

Kudos to Todd for stating a truth that just about all of us have missed.

I don't care! Teh Dems are RAHMING through their massive government takeover with death panels and zorses and zombies!

It's refreshing to hear some common sense on this bill.  Chuck Todd was a waste in my opinion, but he mildly looks better in my opinion after this.

Todd also called out Michael Steele on this ill-considered talking point ahead of the Health Care Summit...

http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/michael-steele-says-obama-should-hav

STEELE: This whole dog and pony show that we're about to witness today is something that should have taken place a year ago, when the administration first came in last February and laid out its agenda for health care. This is how you should have started it—bipartisan, public forum, CSPAN, your cameras rolling to capture this and to capture, most importantly, what the American people want. And right now, they want us to start over, and I think we should.

TODD: Chairman Steele, in fairness to them, I mean, it was a year ago that they actually had a summit.

GUTHRIE: On March 5th.

TODD: And it wasn't just the legislative leaders. They brought in folks from the industry as well. And that one was televised. So... does that one not count? I'm just curious.

STEELE: Well, apparently it didn't. Because we don't have health care.

Sure... Catching Michael Steele in a bit of fact-free clowning is a low bar, but I'll take what we can get.

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

Either McCain is flat-out lying or he should never be allowed to vote on legislation again...

http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/mccain-wait----tarp-was-targeted-at-wall-st-who-knew.php
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/02/mccain-it-wasnt-just-me----america-was-misled-on-tarp-video.php

Mendacious or monumentally incurious. Pick your poison.

Either way, he's an incoherent bag of backpedaling Not President.

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

TPD...

http://washingtonindependent.com/77854/latest-conservative-smear-calls-justice-dept-lawyers-terror-sympathizers
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0310/Cheney_group_questions_loyalty_of_Justice_lawyers.html

Is there anything about our American system of jurisprudence that Republican assholes like Chuck Grassley and Liz Cheney won't shit on?

Why do they hate our freedom?

[JD]

Freedom to do what?  I never follow any of the links in here.

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

Freedom to do what?  I never follow any of the links in here.

OUR FREEDOM TO BE AMERICAN

[Slaky]

Freedom to do what?  I never follow any of the links in here.

This thread needs something to spruce it up. I know!

[Wheezer]

Either McCain is flat-out lying or he should never be allowed to vote on legislation again...

I'll give him credit for pissing off Big Herba with the Dietary Supplement Safety Act.

[Shooter]

Freedom to do what?  I never follow any of the links in here.

This thread needs something to spruce it up. I know!

Agreed.

[JD]

Freedom to do what?  I never follow any of the links in here.

This thread needs something to spruce it up. I know!

Agreed.

Holee crap.

[Wheezer]

HOUSEGUEST   MARSHA GETS HER SUIT COVERED IN MESSY FOAM   MARSHA WARFIELD   MOVIE   1995 68501  USA

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

HOUSEGUEST   MARSHA GETS HER SUIT COVERED IN MESSY FOAM   MARSHA WARFIELD   MOVIE   1995 68501  USA

MARKIE POST  HEARTS AFIRE  (MK173)  MARKIE GETS IN BUBBLE BATH IN BLACK EVENING DRESS  TV      1992 MK32   USA
MARKIE POST  DEAD RUN               MARKIE IN A SILVER EVENING DRESS IN THE RAIN       TVMOVIE 1994 9106   USA
MARKIE POST  HEARTS AFFIRE          MARKIE GETS MESSY CAKE ICING ON HER FACE           TV      1994 130604 USA

"WAMTEC, the Wet & Messy Tape Club."

Darkest corner yet?

[morpheus]

HOUSEGUEST   MARSHA GETS HER SUIT COVERED IN MESSY FOAM   MARSHA WARFIELD   MOVIE   1995 68501  USA

MARKIE POST  HEARTS AFIRE  (MK173)  MARKIE GETS IN BUBBLE BATH IN BLACK EVENING DRESS  TV      1992 MK32   USA
MARKIE POST  DEAD RUN               MARKIE IN A SILVER EVENING DRESS IN THE RAIN       TVMOVIE 1994 9106   USA
MARKIE POST  HEARTS AFFIRE          MARKIE GETS MESSY CAKE ICING ON HER FACE           TV      1994 130604 USA

"WAMTEC, the Wet & Messy Tape Club."

Darkest corner yet?

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

HOUSEGUEST   MARSHA GETS HER SUIT COVERED IN MESSY FOAM   MARSHA WARFIELD   MOVIE   1995 68501  USA

MARKIE POST  HEARTS AFIRE  (MK173)  MARKIE GETS IN BUBBLE BATH IN BLACK EVENING DRESS  TV      1992 MK32   USA
MARKIE POST  DEAD RUN               MARKIE IN A SILVER EVENING DRESS IN THE RAIN       TVMOVIE 1994 9106   USA
MARKIE POST  HEARTS AFFIRE          MARKIE GETS MESSY CAKE ICING ON HER FACE           TV      1994 130604 USA

"WAMTEC, the Wet & Messy Tape Club."

Darkest corner yet?

Ooh. "Conceptual art." Fancy.

Unseen is a homage to the tragic events of September 11, 2001. The twin boys symbolize the twin towers: happy, innocent and vulnerable to the unseen storm approaching behind them. Arising from the storm are the contrails of two planes - one already turning towards them. In the upper right is a crescent moon symbolizing Islam. On the opposite side of the painting are telephone poles that form crucifixes symbolizing Christianity. The piece is signed 911.

Original painting NOT FOR SALE
Limited Edition Photographic Print, 7in x 13in, Single Matt $50

Conceptual.

[CBStew]

I appreciate the explanation of the concept.  Before I read it I had an entirely different conception, and it wasn't immaculate.