Desipio Message Board
May 23, 2013, 10:49:12 PM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
: Oct 12 - Oral History: Cubs hire Theo
http://www.desipio.com/?p=3639
Home
Help
Search
Members
Login
Register
Desipio Message Board
>
General Category
>
Desipio Lounge
>
2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
Pages:
1
...
24
25
[
26
]
27
28
...
50
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive (Read 23682 times)
SKO
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 2657
ARMCOCK
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #375 on:
July 23, 2010, 08:48:11 AM »
My guess actually is that Mark Anderson will be the starting DE opposite of Peppers and that Israel Idonijie will continue to swing between both defensive tackle and defensive end. He's not overmatched at DT and he provides a pass rush at both spots. I'm betting he'll get nearly as many reps as the starters without actually being one. Also, Ogunleye/Brown =/= Peppers/Anderson (or Idonijie). I'm done playing the "if Tommie Harris is like 2006.." game, but he's still a solid defensive tackle and I think he'll be healthier than he has been, and with Peppers drawing the double teams that Tommie used to draw, he should Look like the Harris of old.
Urlacher isn't the guy he was either, but he's a solid tackler that can read an offense and make the right calls, something they didn't have last year. Pisa is actually the guy I'm most excited about among the injured players that are returning. He's still relatively young and has been pretty solid when healthy during his career. Frankly, with all due respect to Hillenmeyer and Roach (who I think provide good depth), they haven't had anyone all that great at the SAM position since the Holdman/Urlacher/Colvin trio terrorized the NFC Central. If Pisa plays well, Briggs keeps playing like a guy in the prime of his career should, and Urlacher gets everybody into position and doesn't miss tackles, this is a much better linebacker corps and should hopefully straighten out the problems they had against the run last year.
Chris Harris makes the secondary better, although I don't get why they're still hung up on playing Danieal Manning rather than Major Wright at safety. If there's one thing that everyone but the Bears seems to realize, it's that Manning is far, far better at the nickel. Wright has good instincts and always knows where the ball is. Danieal isn't so good at that. Tillman is fine, and Bowman really improved a lot down the stretch last year.
So... yeah, I don't get why people think the defense will be so much worse this year. I don't think they'll be the doom-bringers that they were in 2005-06, but a top ten ranking isn't out of reach. Anything in the top 15 should be enough to get them back to the playoffs, provided that they keep up the usual turnover rate of a Lovie Smith defense and the offensive line improves enough to allow the offense to help win games on that end.
Logged
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=545
"Plummer, in 1999, "contributed" 1,017 fewer yards to the Cardinals than the league average QB would have brought to the table. As far as modern seasons go, Plummer's '99 stands as the worst."
Eli
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 3689
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #376 on:
July 23, 2010, 08:50:19 AM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 22, 2010, 05:33:50 PM
I think he's underrated as dick.
Ghey.
Logged
Brownie
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 2347
Paul Brown Returns. But f@#! the Bengals.
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #377 on:
July 23, 2010, 09:15:57 AM »
Cross-posted in "Fuck, it's silent in here" thread:
Glenn Beck an Urlacher fan, then?
Bizarre.
Logged
MAD
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 1979
Commit me.
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #378 on:
July 23, 2010, 09:27:20 AM »
Quote from: Brownie on July 23, 2010, 09:15:57 AM
Cross-posted in "Fuck, it's silent in here" thread:
Glenn Beck an Urlacher fan, then?
Bizarre.
That pudgy fuck could do everyone a favor and swallow some bullets.
Logged
I think he's more of the appendix of Desipio. Yeah, it's here and you're vaguely aware of it, but only if reminded. The only time anyone notices it is when it ruptures (on Weebs in the video game thread). Beyond that, though, it's basically useless and offers no redeeming value.
Eli G. (6-22-10)
Eli
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 3689
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #379 on:
July 23, 2010, 09:41:57 AM »
Quote from: MAD on July 23, 2010, 09:27:20 AM
Quote from: Brownie on July 23, 2010, 09:15:57 AM
Cross-posted in "Fuck, it's silent in here" thread:
Glenn Beck an Urlacher fan, then?
Bizarre.
That pudgy fuck could do everyone a favor and swallow some bullets.
Hey now, Urlacher's declined a bit, but that's no reason to wish
death
on him!
Logged
Internet Apex
SSM's Resident Octagonacologist
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 9002
Ape X
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #380 on:
July 23, 2010, 08:30:03 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2010, 08:48:11 AM
My guess actually is that Mark Anderson will be the starting DE opposite of Peppers and that Israel Idonijie will continue to swing between both defensive tackle and defensive end. He's not overmatched at DT and he provides a pass rush at both spots. I'm betting he'll get nearly as many reps as the starters without actually being one. Also, Ogunleye/Brown =/= Peppers/Anderson (or Idonijie). I'm done playing the "if Tommie Harris is like 2006.." game, but he's still a solid defensive tackle and I think he'll be healthier than he has been, and with Peppers drawing the double teams that Tommie used to draw, he should Look like the Harris of old.
Urlacher isn't the guy he was either, but he's a solid tackler that can read an offense and make the right calls, something they didn't have last year. Pisa is actually the guy I'm most excited about among the injured players that are returning. He's still relatively young and has been pretty solid when healthy during his career. Frankly, with all due respect to Hillenmeyer and Roach (who I think provide good depth), they haven't had anyone all that great at the SAM position since the Holdman/Urlacher/Colvin trio terrorized the NFC Central. If Pisa plays well, Briggs keeps playing like a guy in the prime of his career should, and Urlacher gets everybody into position and doesn't miss tackles, this is a much better linebacker corps and should hopefully straighten out the problems they had against the run last year.
Chris Harris makes the secondary better, although I don't get why they're still hung up on playing Danieal Manning rather than Major Wright at safety. If there's one thing that everyone but the Bears seems to realize, it's that Manning is far, far better at the nickel. Wright has good instincts and always knows where the ball is. Danieal isn't so good at that. Tillman is fine, and Bowman really improved a lot down the stretch last year.
So... yeah, I don't get why people think the defense will be so much worse this year. I don't think they'll be the doom-bringers that they were in 2005-06, but a top ten ranking isn't out of reach. Anything in the top 15 should be enough to get them back to the playoffs, provided that they keep up the usual turnover rate of a Lovie Smith defense and the offensive line improves enough to allow the offense to help win games on that end.
Mark Anderson sucks. If he gets the majority of the snaps at DE, I might as well sell Night Man and Day Man my REO Speedwagon tickets. Cuz we'll be boned.
Logged
The 37th Tenet of Pexism: Apestink is terrible.
Tony
Hank White Fan Club
Posts: 564
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #381 on:
July 24, 2010, 09:23:20 AM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 23, 2010, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2010, 08:48:11 AM
My guess actually is that Mark Anderson will be the starting DE opposite of Peppers and that Israel Idonijie will continue to swing between both defensive tackle and defensive end. He's not overmatched at DT and he provides a pass rush at both spots. I'm betting he'll get nearly as many reps as the starters without actually being one. Also, Ogunleye/Brown =/= Peppers/Anderson (or Idonijie). I'm done playing the "if Tommie Harris is like 2006.." game, but he's still a solid defensive tackle and I think he'll be healthier than he has been, and with Peppers drawing the double teams that Tommie used to draw, he should Look like the Harris of old.
Urlacher isn't the guy he was either, but he's a solid tackler that can read an offense and make the right calls, something they didn't have last year. Pisa is actually the guy I'm most excited about among the injured players that are returning. He's still relatively young and has been pretty solid when healthy during his career. Frankly, with all due respect to Hillenmeyer and Roach (who I think provide good depth), they haven't had anyone all that great at the SAM position since the Holdman/Urlacher/Colvin trio terrorized the NFC Central. If Pisa plays well, Briggs keeps playing like a guy in the prime of his career should, and Urlacher gets everybody into position and doesn't miss tackles, this is a much better linebacker corps and should hopefully straighten out the problems they had against the run last year.
Chris Harris makes the secondary better, although I don't get why they're still hung up on playing Danieal Manning rather than Major Wright at safety. If there's one thing that everyone but the Bears seems to realize, it's that Manning is far, far better at the nickel. Wright has good instincts and always knows where the ball is. Danieal isn't so good at that. Tillman is fine, and Bowman really improved a lot down the stretch last year.
So... yeah, I don't get why people think the defense will be so much worse this year. I don't think they'll be the doom-bringers that they were in 2005-06, but a top ten ranking isn't out of reach. Anything in the top 15 should be enough to get them back to the playoffs, provided that they keep up the usual turnover rate of a Lovie Smith defense and the offensive line improves enough to allow the offense to help win games on that end.
Mark Anderson sucks. If he gets the majority of the snaps at DE, I might as well sell Night Man and Day Man my REO Speedwagon tickets. Cuz we'll be boned.
This Anderson thing scares me. Didn't they already try this? And this time Alex Brown won't be on the sidelines to save their ass.
Logged
Internet Apex
SSM's Resident Octagonacologist
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 9002
Ape X
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #382 on:
July 25, 2010, 09:19:01 AM »
Quote from: Tony on July 24, 2010, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 23, 2010, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2010, 08:48:11 AM
My guess actually is that Mark Anderson will be the starting DE opposite of Peppers and that Israel Idonijie will continue to swing between both defensive tackle and defensive end. He's not overmatched at DT and he provides a pass rush at both spots. I'm betting he'll get nearly as many reps as the starters without actually being one. Also, Ogunleye/Brown =/= Peppers/Anderson (or Idonijie). I'm done playing the "if Tommie Harris is like 2006.." game, but he's still a solid defensive tackle and I think he'll be healthier than he has been, and with Peppers drawing the double teams that Tommie used to draw, he should Look like the Harris of old.
Urlacher isn't the guy he was either, but he's a solid tackler that can read an offense and make the right calls, something they didn't have last year. Pisa is actually the guy I'm most excited about among the injured players that are returning. He's still relatively young and has been pretty solid when healthy during his career. Frankly, with all due respect to Hillenmeyer and Roach (who I think provide good depth), they haven't had anyone all that great at the SAM position since the Holdman/Urlacher/Colvin trio terrorized the NFC Central. If Pisa plays well, Briggs keeps playing like a guy in the prime of his career should, and Urlacher gets everybody into position and doesn't miss tackles, this is a much better linebacker corps and should hopefully straighten out the problems they had against the run last year.
Chris Harris makes the secondary better, although I don't get why they're still hung up on playing Danieal Manning rather than Major Wright at safety. If there's one thing that everyone but the Bears seems to realize, it's that Manning is far, far better at the nickel. Wright has good instincts and always knows where the ball is. Danieal isn't so good at that. Tillman is fine, and Bowman really improved a lot down the stretch last year.
So... yeah, I don't get why people think the defense will be so much worse this year. I don't think they'll be the doom-bringers that they were in 2005-06, but a top ten ranking isn't out of reach. Anything in the top 15 should be enough to get them back to the playoffs, provided that they keep up the usual turnover rate of a Lovie Smith defense and the offensive line improves enough to allow the offense to help win games on that end.
Mark Anderson sucks. If he gets the majority of the snaps at DE, I might as well sell Night Man and Day Man my REO Speedwagon tickets. Cuz we'll be boned.
This Anderson thing scares me. Didn't they already try this? And this time Alex Brown won't be on the sidelines to save their ass.
Yes, but that fails to call into account:
Logged
The 37th Tenet of Pexism: Apestink is terrible.
ChuckD
Fukakke Fan Club
Posts: 1192
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #383 on:
July 25, 2010, 10:38:39 AM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 25, 2010, 09:19:01 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 24, 2010, 09:23:20 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 23, 2010, 08:30:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2010, 08:48:11 AM
My guess actually is that Mark Anderson will be the starting DE opposite of Peppers and that Israel Idonijie will continue to swing between both defensive tackle and defensive end. He's not overmatched at DT and he provides a pass rush at both spots. I'm betting he'll get nearly as many reps as the starters without actually being one. Also, Ogunleye/Brown =/= Peppers/Anderson (or Idonijie). I'm done playing the "if Tommie Harris is like 2006.." game, but he's still a solid defensive tackle and I think he'll be healthier than he has been, and with Peppers drawing the double teams that Tommie used to draw, he should Look like the Harris of old.
Urlacher isn't the guy he was either, but he's a solid tackler that can read an offense and make the right calls, something they didn't have last year. Pisa is actually the guy I'm most excited about among the injured players that are returning. He's still relatively young and has been pretty solid when healthy during his career. Frankly, with all due respect to Hillenmeyer and Roach (who I think provide good depth), they haven't had anyone all that great at the SAM position since the Holdman/Urlacher/Colvin trio terrorized the NFC Central. If Pisa plays well, Briggs keeps playing like a guy in the prime of his career should, and Urlacher gets everybody into position and doesn't miss tackles, this is a much better linebacker corps and should hopefully straighten out the problems they had against the run last year.
Chris Harris makes the secondary better, although I don't get why they're still hung up on playing Danieal Manning rather than Major Wright at safety. If there's one thing that everyone but the Bears seems to realize, it's that Manning is far, far better at the nickel. Wright has good instincts and always knows where the ball is. Danieal isn't so good at that. Tillman is fine, and Bowman really improved a lot down the stretch last year.
So... yeah, I don't get why people think the defense will be so much worse this year. I don't think they'll be the doom-bringers that they were in 2005-06, but a top ten ranking isn't out of reach. Anything in the top 15 should be enough to get them back to the playoffs, provided that they keep up the usual turnover rate of a Lovie Smith defense and the offensive line improves enough to allow the offense to help win games on that end.
Mark Anderson sucks. If he gets the majority of the snaps at DE, I might as well sell Night Man and Day Man my REO Speedwagon tickets. Cuz we'll be boned.
This Anderson thing scares me. Didn't they already try this? And this time Alex Brown won't be on the sidelines to save their ass.
Yes, but that fails to call into account:
No, you fail to take in to account...
Logged
Internet Apex
SSM's Resident Octagonacologist
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 9002
Ape X
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #384 on:
July 25, 2010, 11:53:32 AM »
Holy shit, did I lol.
Logged
The 37th Tenet of Pexism: Apestink is terrible.
Bort
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 2710
My son's name is ALSO Bort.
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #385 on:
July 26, 2010, 08:39:32 AM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 25, 2010, 11:53:32 AM
Holy shit, did I lol.
THI
Logged
"Then we can find out that Rizzo is Italian for Adam LaRoche which is French for average first baseman who will play for 8 teams before he retires."
SKO
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 2657
ARMCOCK
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #386 on:
July 26, 2010, 08:45:29 AM »
I'm betting they'll give Anderson another chance to be the guy, but what'll most likely happen will be Idonijie at end in most situations, with Anderson taking over and Idonijie sliding inside on passing downs. I think a pure pass rush of Anderson, Idonijie, Harris, and Peppers will be terrifying, but they'll have to improve against the run on 1st and 2nd down to actually ensure that opposing offenses are actually forced into passing situations with regularity.
Logged
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/blog/?p=545
"Plummer, in 1999, "contributed" 1,017 fewer yards to the Cardinals than the league average QB would have brought to the table. As far as modern seasons go, Plummer's '99 stands as the worst."
morpheus
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 2416
Sad.
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #387 on:
July 26, 2010, 08:55:35 AM »
Quote from: Bort on July 26, 2010, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 25, 2010, 11:53:32 AM
Holy shit, did I lol.
THI
It seamed that I would bust my gut, I loled so much.
Logged
I don't get that KurtEvans photoshop.
Internet Apex
SSM's Resident Octagonacologist
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 9002
Ape X
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #388 on:
July 26, 2010, 09:09:24 AM »
Quote from: SKO on July 26, 2010, 08:45:29 AM
I'm betting they'll give Anderson another chance to be the guy, but what'll most likely happen will be Idonijie at end in most situations, with Anderson taking over and Idonijie sliding inside on passing downs.
I think a pure pass rush of Anderson, Idonijie, Harris, and Peppers will be terrifying, but they'll have to improve against the run on 1st and 2nd down to actually ensure that opposing offenses are actually forced into passing situations with regularity.
THI. Why didn't you say that in the first place? I guess you sort of did but I needed some more info to get your point.
«
Last Edit: July 26, 2010, 09:15:03 AM by Internet Apex
»
Logged
The 37th Tenet of Pexism: Apestink is terrible.
Internet Apex
SSM's Resident Octagonacologist
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 9002
Ape X
Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
«
Reply #389 on:
July 26, 2010, 09:11:16 AM »
Quote from: SKO on July 26, 2010, 08:45:29 AM
I'm betting they'll give Anderson another chance to be the guy, but what'll most likely happen will be Idonijie at end in most situations, with Anderson taking over and Idonijie sliding inside on passing downs. I think a pure pass rush of Anderson, Idonijie, Harris, and Peppers will be terrifying, but
they'll have to improve against the run on 1st and 2nd down to actually ensure that opposing offenses are actually forced into passing situations with regularity.
DPD. Thanks, Fork.
Logged
The 37th Tenet of Pexism: Apestink is terrible.
Pages:
1
...
24
25
[
26
]
27
28
...
50
Print
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
General Category
-----------------------------
=> Desipio Lounge
=> Paperback Writer
=> On-Hoops.com
=> You know why critics like Elvis Costello?
=> Mom's Basement
=> Boobtube
=> You'll Laugh, You'll Cry, You'll Kiss Eight Bucks Goodbye
=> The Old Feedbag
=> The Dead Pool
Loading...