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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #120 on:
November 01, 2011, 02:49:24 PM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 01, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 01:11:47 PM
And, no matter what Chuck says, the guy who
does
run the organization has of late given us plenty of reason to believe he has a clue about what he's doing with it.
That Crane is still here (albeit no longer a company director) is strong evidence that there's plenty of McCaskey in Ricketts.
Crane has no role in baseball operations. His fuckups will be relegated to tbe business side.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #121 on:
November 01, 2011, 04:06:16 PM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 01, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 01:11:47 PM
And, no matter what Chuck says, the guy who
does
run the organization has of late given us plenty of reason to believe he has a clue about what he's doing with it.
Yeah. He hired the best guy out there and gave him a blank check to fulfill said guy's vision. Mike McCaskey did that with Dave Wannstedt.
Just because you hire the best guy available doesn't mean you know what the fuck you are doing.
That Crane is still here (albeit no longer a company director) is strong evidence that there's plenty of McCaskey in Ricketts.
Intrepid Reader (He certainly has the time) Bob Pulford
Becuase the only way you can get rid of a meddlesome former member of a front office is fire them...
Also your Wanny anlogy would be better if he had won 2 Superbowls as a head coach before he took the Bears gig, but he didn't, so it isnt.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #122 on:
November 01, 2011, 04:50:44 PM »
Quote from: thehawk on November 01, 2011, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 01, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 01:11:47 PM
And, no matter what Chuck says, the guy who
does
run the organization has of late given us plenty of reason to believe he has a clue about what he's doing with it.
Yeah. He hired the best guy out there and gave him a blank check to fulfill said guy's vision. Mike McCaskey did that with Dave Wannstedt.
Just because you hire the best guy available doesn't mean you know what the fuck you are doing.
That Crane is still here (albeit no longer a company director) is strong evidence that there's plenty of McCaskey in Ricketts.
Intrepid Reader (He certainly has the time) Bob Pulford
Becuase the only way you can get rid of a meddlesome former member of a front office is fire them...
Also your Wanny anlogy would be better if he had won 2 Superbowls as a head coach before he took the Bears gig, but he didn't, so it isnt.
Intrepid Reader: A former Winnetka Resident
Hi. Am I the analogy Chuck's looking for?
I suppose I came in with my Jed (Ed, rhymes with Jed) and Jason (Hendry).
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #123 on:
November 01, 2011, 05:28:37 PM »
The Wannstedt analogy may honestly be Chuck's worst analogy of all time. There's a vast difference between "the coordinator perceived by most people to be the hottest head coaching prospect of the time but would still be in a brand new position" and a "guy who is being hired to do the exact job that he's done before which resulted in two championships for the last franchise he was in charge of."
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #124 on:
November 01, 2011, 05:44:27 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on November 01, 2011, 04:50:44 PM
Quote from: thehawk on November 01, 2011, 04:06:16 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 01, 2011, 01:54:29 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 01:11:47 PM
And, no matter what Chuck says, the guy who
does
run the organization has of late given us plenty of reason to believe he has a clue about what he's doing with it.
Yeah. He hired the best guy out there and gave him a blank check to fulfill said guy's vision. Mike McCaskey did that with Dave Wannstedt.
Just because you hire the best guy available doesn't mean you know what the fuck you are doing.
That Crane is still here (albeit no longer a company director) is strong evidence that there's plenty of McCaskey in Ricketts.
Intrepid Reader (He certainly has the time) Bob Pulford
Becuase the only way you can get rid of a meddlesome former member of a front office is fire them...
Also your Wanny anlogy would be better if he had won 2 Superbowls as a head coach before he took the Bears gig, but he didn't, so it isnt.
Intrepid Reader: A former Winnetka Resident
Hi. Am I the analogy Chuck's looking for?
I suppose I came in with my Jed (Ed, rhymes with Jed) and Jason (Hendry).
To me, this is the $64 question (more like the $164 million question). The Trib brought in McPhail for mere window-dressing, as they were unwilling to spend the real dollars for talent that was necessary. I kind of want to see the Ricketts actually write the checks for their own real payroll, but we are still likely a year or two away from that.
With that said, I would doubt Theo, given his age and leverage, would come to the Cubs without some assurance that he would be able to spend like he feels he needs to, but its one thing to promise it and another to actually write the check.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #125 on:
November 01, 2011, 06:22:52 PM »
Quote from: SKO on November 01, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
The Wannstedt analogy may honestly be Chuck's worst analogy of all time. There's a vast difference between "the coordinator perceived by most people to be the hottest head coaching prospect of the time but would still be in a brand new position" and a "guy who is being hired to do the exact job that he's done before which resulted in two championships for the last franchise he was in charge of."
So then, this is more like the time the Dolphins hired Bill Parcells.
EXCEPT TOTALLY FUCKING AWESOME.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #126 on:
November 01, 2011, 06:41:39 PM »
Quote from: PenPho on November 01, 2011, 06:22:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 01, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
The Wannstedt analogy may honestly be Chuck's worst analogy of all time. There's a vast difference between "the coordinator perceived by most people to be the hottest head coaching prospect of the time but would still be in a brand new position" and a "guy who is being hired to do the exact job that he's done before which resulted in two championships for the last franchise he was in charge of."
So then, this is more like the time the Dolphins hired Bill Parcells.
Except Parcells never won a Super Bowl in the front office.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #127 on:
November 01, 2011, 06:59:06 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: PenPho on November 01, 2011, 06:22:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 01, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
The Wannstedt analogy may honestly be Chuck's worst analogy of all time. There's a vast difference between "the coordinator perceived by most people to be the hottest head coaching prospect of the time but would still be in a brand new position" and a "guy who is being hired to do the exact job that he's done before which resulted in two championships for the last franchise he was in charge of."
So then, this is more like the time the Dolphins hired Bill Parcells.
Except Parcells never won a Super Bowl in the front office.
So this is totally like the time Rick Pitino took over the Celtics!
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #128 on:
November 01, 2011, 07:13:10 PM »
Quote from: CT III on November 01, 2011, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: PenPho on November 01, 2011, 06:22:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 01, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
The Wannstedt analogy may honestly be Chuck's worst analogy of all time. There's a vast difference between "the coordinator perceived by most people to be the hottest head coaching prospect of the time but would still be in a brand new position" and a "guy who is being hired to do the exact job that he's done before which resulted in two championships for the last franchise he was in charge of."
So then, this is more like the time the Dolphins hired Bill Parcells.
Except Parcells never won a Super Bowl in the front office.
So this is totally like the time Rick Pitino took over the Celtics!
Except Pitino never won anything in the NBA.
So, this is totally unprecedented in the history of SPORTS.
Except for the time that Texas Tech hired Bob Knight.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #129 on:
November 01, 2011, 07:56:00 PM »
Quote from: PenPho on November 01, 2011, 07:13:10 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 01, 2011, 06:59:06 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 01, 2011, 06:41:39 PM
Quote from: PenPho on November 01, 2011, 06:22:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 01, 2011, 05:28:37 PM
The Wannstedt analogy may honestly be Chuck's worst analogy of all time. There's a vast difference between "the coordinator perceived by most people to be the hottest head coaching prospect of the time but would still be in a brand new position" and a "guy who is being hired to do the exact job that he's done before which resulted in two championships for the last franchise he was in charge of."
So then, this is more like the time the Dolphins hired Bill Parcells.
Except Parcells never won a Super Bowl in the front office.
So this is totally like the time Rick Pitino took over the Celtics!
Except Pitino never won anything in the NBA.
So, this is totally unprecedented in the history of SPORTS.
Except for the time that Texas Tech hired Bob Knight.
Well, if it's inevitable...
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #130 on:
November 07, 2011, 09:35:03 AM »
Didn't see this posted, but Cubs hiring of
Joe Bohringer
as the new pro scouting director is another big win by teh cubs. Guys using computers and experience? What a novel concept.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #131 on:
November 14, 2011, 11:09:07 AM »
Quote from: BH on November 07, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
Didn't see this posted, but Cubs hiring of
Joe Bohringer
as the new pro scouting director is another big win by teh cubs. Guys using computers and experience? What a novel concept.
And...here's another totally awesome smart guy,
new Assistant to the General Manager, Shiraz Rehman.
It's like a Matryoshka doll of baseball guys!
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #132 on:
November 14, 2011, 11:12:36 AM »
Quote from: PenPho on November 14, 2011, 11:09:07 AM
Quote from: BH on November 07, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
Didn't see this posted, but Cubs hiring of
Joe Bohringer
as the new pro scouting director is another big win by teh cubs. Guys using computers and experience? What a novel concept.
And...here's another totally awesome smart guy,
new Assistant to the General Manager, Shiraz Rehman.
It's like a
Matryoshka doll
Daryle Ward pizza
of baseball guys!
Hey... Anyone remember 2007 and 2008? Those years were kinda fun.
For the most part.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #133 on:
November 14, 2011, 11:14:11 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 14, 2011, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: PenPho on November 14, 2011, 11:09:07 AM
Quote from: BH on November 07, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
Didn't see this posted, but Cubs hiring of
Joe Bohringer
as the new pro scouting director is another big win by teh cubs. Guys using computers and experience? What a novel concept.
And...here's another totally awesome smart guy,
new Assistant to the General Manager, Shiraz Rehman.
It's like a
Matryoshka doll
Daryle Ward pizza
of baseball guys!
Hey... Anyone remember 2007 and 2008? Those years were kinda fun.
For the most part.
Remember having useful bench players? That didn't suck.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
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Reply #134 on:
November 14, 2011, 11:16:12 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on November 14, 2011, 11:12:36 AM
Quote from: PenPho on November 14, 2011, 11:09:07 AM
Quote from: BH on November 07, 2011, 09:35:03 AM
Didn't see this posted, but Cubs hiring of
Joe Bohringer
as the new pro scouting director is another big win by teh cubs. Guys using computers and experience? What a novel concept.
And...here's another totally awesome smart guy,
new Assistant to the General Manager, Shiraz Rehman.
It's like a
Matryoshka doll Daryle Ward
Jimmy Anderson
pizza of baseball guys!
Hey... Anyone remember 200
7
4
and 200
8
5
? Those years were kinda fun.
For the most part.
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