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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #315 on: October 16, 2014, 09:28:39 AM »
@BestFansStLouis has been glorious last night and today.

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #316 on: October 16, 2014, 09:33:43 AM »
Quote from: BH on October 16, 2014, 09:28:39 AM
@BestFansStLouis has been glorious last night and today.

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #317 on: October 16, 2014, 01:10:18 PM »
This is so wonderfully perfect.



Hat tip to Slak for RT'ing it into my timeline.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #318 on: October 16, 2014, 06:30:13 PM »
Go Cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #319 on: October 16, 2014, 10:35:52 PM »
Fin.

I might buy a Giants hat now.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #320 on: October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM »


If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #321 on: October 17, 2014, 12:11:03 AM »
Quote from: CBStew on October 16, 2014, 06:30:13 PM
Go Cards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #322 on: October 17, 2014, 02:50:38 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM


If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

You want me to waste my best reliever in the ninth inning of a tied elimination game? Don't make me laugh.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #323 on: October 17, 2014, 07:56:34 AM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 17, 2014, 02:50:38 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM


If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

You want me to waste my best reliever in the ninth inning of a tied elimination game? Don't make me laugh.

Or use my lefty specialist against 2 lefties... get a life, losers.

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #324 on: October 17, 2014, 08:06:05 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM


If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

On one hand I'm terrified of Renteria managing games that matter. On the other, I'm pretty sure there won't be any.

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #325 on: October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on October 17, 2014, 08:06:05 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 17, 2014, 12:05:06 AM


If I only I had confidence this would never be Ricky, but whatever...I'm laughing now.

On one hand I'm terrified of Renteria managing games that matter. On the other, I'm pretty sure there won't be any.

Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

To address the second sentence, you think they'll fire him either this offseason or next?

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #326 on: October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #327 on: October 17, 2014, 09:11:19 AM »
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

Did he have Castro, Rizzo, Soler or Baez bunt? Or some of the other half-a-WAR slapdicks he was saddled with? I, like Yeti, marginally paid attention when the good players weren't batting. So what gives? I remember a lot of hand-wringing around here about double switches that I didn't understand either. I need at least semi-accurate anecdotal evidence if I'm going to develop any butthurt over Ricky. Right now, I think he's a guy.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #328 on: October 17, 2014, 09:15:52 AM »
Quote from: InternetApex on October 17, 2014, 09:11:19 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

Did he have Castro, Rizzo, Soler or Baez bunt? Or some of the other half-a-WAR slapdicks he was saddled with? I, like Yeti, marginally paid attention when the good players weren't batting. So what gives? I remember a lot of hand-wringing around here about double switches that I didn't understand either. I need at least semi-accurate anecdotal evidence if I'm going to develop any butthurt over Ricky. Right now, I think he's a guy.

I watched a fair bit of Cubs baseball in August and September and Ricky seemed quite happy to let Castro, Rizzo, Soler and Baez play.  Indeed, by and large he seems pretty laissez-faire all round, although it's easy to be that way when the pressure is off.  Nonetheless, I can't immediately remember an incidence of bone-headed management, and God knows, after Dusty, we all know one when we see one.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #329 on: October 17, 2014, 09:18:43 AM »
Quote from: Eli on October 17, 2014, 09:03:53 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 17, 2014, 08:50:48 AM
Ok, so maybe it's because I was marginally watching most of the year, but can someone actually tell me occasions where he flubbed up shit?

I think it mostly stems from his Yostian penchant for bunting.

According to B-R, they attempted 81 (7th most) of them (sacrifice bunts, that is), at a 70% success rate (LgAvg).

Interestingly enough, the Royals had 54, which is 10 less than the league average.

Counterpoint: "Ricky calls for them at shitty times". http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/all-that-ned-yost-bunting-has-helped-the-royals/

QuoteI took the additional step of leaving out pitcher bunts because many pitcher bunts are perfectly reasonable.

I got lazy with the table formatting, so the relevant information:

Royals, 1st with 1.0 WPA from non pitcher bunts.
Cubs, last with -.9 WPA from non pitcher bunts

I'm fine with hating him if there's clear information saying he's a terrible manager. I just want that information presented as opposed to a vague fear of him managing "games that matter"