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Topic: 2012 Chicago Cubs (Read 15978 times)
Slaky
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Posts: 6303
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #300 on:
May 14, 2012, 09:56:06 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 14, 2012, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 06:48:01 PM
In fact, I don't think it's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
I've been thinking about climbing aboard that bandwagon myself.
TEAM 2013! FYC!
And now so am I.
#FYC2013
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Eli
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Posts: 3676
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #301 on:
May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quote
on pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quote
despite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
Quote
There is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
Quote
They don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
Quote
Their catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
Quote
And, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
Quote
Without some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
Quote
It's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
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PANK!
Fukakke Fan Club
Posts: 1896
Lots of seats left! Watch the bird shit though.
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #302 on:
May 14, 2012, 10:06:42 PM »
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quote
on pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quote
despite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
Quote
There is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
Quote
They don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
Quote
Their catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
Quote
And, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
Quote
Without some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
Quote
It's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
You
should come to Tonkfest.
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Bort
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 2705
My son's name is ALSO Bort.
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #303 on:
May 14, 2012, 11:00:52 PM »
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quote
on pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quote
despite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
Quote
There is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
Quote
They don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
Quote
Their catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
Quote
And, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
Quote
Without some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
Quote
It's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
Man, Eli just gassed up the FYCMOBILE. Let's take this shit on the road.
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"Then we can find out that Rizzo is Italian for Adam LaRoche which is French for average first baseman who will play for 8 teams before he retires."
Tonker
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 3230
YOU'RE MY WIFE NOW
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #304 on:
May 15, 2012, 07:18:27 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on May 14, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quote
on pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quote
despite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
Quote
There is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
Quote
They don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
Quote
Their catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
Quote
And, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
Quote
Without some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
Quote
It's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
You
should come to Tonkfest.
THIS. THIS THIS THIS. I swear, if Eli's not coming, then neither am I.
Also, I watched last night's game and really fucking enjoyed it. They remind me a little bit of the 2007 Cubs, and post-season pants-shitting aside, that's not a bad thing at all. The 2007 Cubs were fung, man.
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Powdered Toast Man
Fukakke Fan Club
Posts: 1375
Grab ahold of my buttocks!
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #305 on:
May 15, 2012, 07:42:56 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quote
on pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quote
despite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
Quote
There is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
Quote
They don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
Quote
Their catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
Quote
And, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
Quote
Without some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
Quote
It's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
Aren't you supposed to say "Eli out" before you drop your microphone?
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IAN/YETI 2012! "IT MEANS WHAT WE SAY IT MEANS!"
BH
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 3169
Hockeenight HR Dept, TJG Assistant Editor
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #306 on:
May 15, 2012, 07:58:32 AM »
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 07:42:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quote
on pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quote
despite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
Quote
There is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
Quote
They don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
Quote
Their catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
Quote
And, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
Quote
Without some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
Quote
It's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
Aren't you supposed to say "Eli out" before you drop your microphone?
He had us so hooked on every word that it didn't matter, we could hear him whisper.
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PANK!
Fukakke Fan Club
Posts: 1896
Lots of seats left! Watch the bird shit though.
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #307 on:
May 15, 2012, 08:02:42 AM »
Quote from: Tonker on May 15, 2012, 07:18:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 14, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quote
on pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quote
despite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
Quote
There is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
Quote
They don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
Quote
Their catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
Quote
And, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
Quote
Without some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
Quote
It's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
You
should come to Tonkfest.
THIS. THIS THIS THIS. I swear, if Eli's not coming, then neither am I.
Also, I watched last night's game and really fucking enjoyed it. They remind me a little bit of the 2007 Cubs, and post-season pants-shitting aside, that's not a bad thing at all. The 2007 Cubs were fung
for the last 4 months
, man.
Something something Lou having to fumigate Dusty's residual badness the first 2 months'd.
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"Steph" 1/5/2005
Powdered Toast Man
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Posts: 1375
Grab ahold of my buttocks!
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #308 on:
May 15, 2012, 08:08:42 AM »
This post serves as a Bryan LaHair appreciation splooge post.
Carry on.
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IAN/YETI 2012! "IT MEANS WHAT WE SAY IT MEANS!"
Eli
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 3676
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #309 on:
May 15, 2012, 08:16:22 AM »
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 07:42:56 AM
Aren't you supposed to say "Eli out" before you drop your microphone?
I'll wait for a ruling from Apex.
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Eli
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 3676
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #310 on:
May 15, 2012, 08:25:54 AM »
Also, if you want further #FYC2013 fuel (don't we all?), Baseball Prospectus' adjusted standings have the Cubs with the
third-best record
in the National League, based on run differential and strength of schedule.
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J. Walter Weatherman
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 4246
You can see his stripes but you know he’s clean
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
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Reply #311 on:
May 15, 2012, 08:33:18 AM »
Quote from: pisomojado8 on May 14, 2012, 08:50:15 PM
Or, did Starlin didn't get past the first round?
Or did he did?
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Are you serious, Fork?
J. Walter Weatherman
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 4246
You can see his stripes but you know he’s clean
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #312 on:
May 15, 2012, 08:35:32 AM »
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 08:25:54 AM
Also, if you want further #FYC2013 fuel (don't we all?), Baseball Prospectus' adjusted standings have the Cubs with the
third-best record
in the National League, based on run differential and strength of schedule.
Fourth best, behind the Cards, Nats and Dodgers.
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Are you serious, Fork?
Eli
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 3676
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #313 on:
May 15, 2012, 08:39:03 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 15, 2012, 08:35:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 08:25:54 AM
Also, if you want further #FYC2013 fuel (don't we all?), Baseball Prospectus' adjusted standings have the Cubs with the
third-best record
in the National League, based on run differential and strength of schedule.
Fourth best, behind the Cards, Nats and Dodgers.
Not all of us got to major in counting at art school.
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Fork
Johnny Evers Fan Club
Posts: 7401
Needs something...
Re: 2012 Chicago Cubs
«
Reply #314 on:
May 15, 2012, 08:51:39 AM »
Chuck needs to stick to the basics - at their current pace, the 2012 Chicago cubs project to play 162 games.
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