2012 Chicago Cubs

[CBStew]

During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.

[Internet Apex]

During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.

They've seen David Stern's script, written by Vince McMahon.

[Brownie]

During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.

I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.

At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."

The Bears were 13-3 the following season.

[SKO]

During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.

I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.

At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."

The Bears were 13-3 the following season.

Owens set the record with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt. Also, the 2001 Bears were the biggest fluke I've ever seen but I'd definitely take a flukey 85-90 win season from an undeserving Cubs squad next year in a similar manner.

[CT III]

During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.

I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.

At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."

The Bears were 13-3 the following season.

Owens set the reord with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt.

Also, didn't the Bears basically announce they were going to roll their coverage to Jerry Rice to prevent HIM from setting some record at the time?

[Brownie]

During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.

I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.

At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."

The Bears were 13-3 the following season.

Owens set the record with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt. Also, the 2001 Bears were the biggest fluke I've ever seen but I'd definitely take a flukey 85-90 win season from an undeserving Cubs squad next year in a similar manner.

But.. fast-forward five years from that 2000 game. The Bears were finishing an 11-5 season with Kyle Orton under center. So, yes, the Bears went from bad to really good to bad to really good again. It could happen to the Cubs. Look at 1984-1989 or 1998-2003 or 2003-2008.

[Internet Apex]

During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.

I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.

At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."

The Bears were 13-3 the following season.

Owens set the record with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt. Also, the 2001 Bears were the biggest fluke I've ever seen but I'd definitely take a flukey 85-90 win season from an undeserving Cubs squad next year in a similar manner.

But.. fast-forward five years from that 2000 game. The Bears were finishing an 11-5 season with Kyle Orton under center. So, yes, the Bears went from bad to really good to bad to really good again. It could happen to the Cubs. Look at 1984-1989 or 1998-2003 or 2003-2008.

Let's hope for nothing like any of the above-mentioned time periods and something much better and sustained. Forget Buck and McCarver for reasons too numerous to list in any thread.

[Slaky]

During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.

I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.

At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."

The Bears were 13-3 the following season.

Owens set the record with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt. Also, the 2001 Bears were the biggest fluke I've ever seen but I'd definitely take a flukey 85-90 win season from an undeserving Cubs squad next year in a similar manner.

But.. fast-forward five years from that 2000 game. The Bears were finishing an 11-5 season with Kyle Orton under center. So, yes, the Bears went from bad to really good to bad to really good again. It could happen to the Cubs. Look at 1984-1989 or 1998-2003 or 2003-2008.

Let's hope for nothing like any of the above-mentioned time periods and something much better and sustained. Forget Buck and McCarver for reasons too numerous to list in any thread.

Right. Would I take a fluky 90 win season next year? Of course. The idea is that they don't have fluky seasons anymore. That's what all this is about.

I've been really good about not getting pissed off seeing every game end in a loss because I know that there's a plan here. But I'll be damned if there aren't moments where the word Cubs depresses the hell out of me.

And now, the White Sox.

[flannj]

1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.

The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.

[Yeti]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

[Sterling Archer]

That game will make a nice season highlight.

[PANK!]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

[Yeti]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

[morpheus]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal." 

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

[Chuck to Chuck]

it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.

Crux of the biscuit'd

And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.

Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"

I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?

I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.

I do?

I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk."  As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it.  I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.

I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.

And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal." 

And there I go taking PANK literally again.

Sabometrics? They measure the guy that beat Mark Grace for the ROY?