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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #270 on: July 13, 2015, 12:38:12 PM »
This is true. The last thing the Cubs should really do right now is overvalue a decent corner outfield prospect. They can buy one, or they can keep finding a way get decent production out of a Coghlan/Denorfia-esque platoon, they have guys like Happ in the system, and presumably in 2 years we'd all want McKinney traded to make room for Eloy Jimenez anyway. Heck they might also still be one of the teams in on Eddy Julio Martinez.

McKinney is expendable.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #271 on: July 13, 2015, 12:44:20 PM »
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 12:18:12 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on July 13, 2015, 12:13:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 12:11:08 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 13, 2015, 11:45:30 AM
In that scenario, I'd say screw the Sox, then, unless they're ready to talk Chris Sale. Don't cash in your chips for half a season of Jeff Samardzija when your best case scenario for that half season is the SeligCard play-in and there are other starters available on the market.

Trading Billy McKinney isn't really "cashing in your chips." He's a nice enough prospect but you're probably not talking about a future star here. The Cubs have like 5 potential left-field options in the coming years. That's the benefit of a deep farm system -- you can trade the McKinneys of the world for actual major-league talent and not lose sleep over it.

And Samardzija (theoretically) helps ensure that you actually make the SeligCard, he provides depth in case something happens to Arrieta/Lester/Hammel/Hendricks, he's a potential weapon out of the bullpen if you get deeper into the playoffs, etc. There's benefit beyond just having a better guy take the hill every 5th day.

Again, who knows who the Sox actually want. I was just speculating.

I would trade Murton 2.0 to the Sox in a three-way deal that ensured Snork went somewhere other than here. That's how deep the Cubs' farm system is and how much I don't want either player on the big league club.

Team A gets: Snork
White Sox get: Whoever the fuck, Mckinney
Cubs get: PNNSTBNL

I'm starting to think you're racist against redheads.

Maybe I'll send you a sneak peek at my Rick Sutcliffe fan fiction erotica and eliminate this thought of yours.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #272 on: July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM »
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."

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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #273 on: July 13, 2015, 02:25:53 PM »
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."


Huey just wants to say he's okay with this as long as Schwarber or Baez aren't involved.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #274 on: July 13, 2015, 02:29:06 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."


Huey just wants to say he's okay with this as long as Schwarber or Baez aren't involved.

I don't understand this SticKpOke at all.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #275 on: July 13, 2015, 02:30:31 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."


Huey just wants to say he's okay with this as long as Schwarber or Baez aren't involved.

I don't understand this SticKpOke at all.

It's a stickpoke to you repeating three or four times that you aren't cool with trading Schwarber or Baez for Snork, which no sane person has ever or would ever suggest.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #276 on: July 13, 2015, 02:35:37 PM »
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."


DPD, not to derail the thread so Huey and I can bicker like old women: this is genuinely hilarious that Papelbon was so blunt about not wanting to be in Philadelphia anymore. It's truly sad that Andy MacPhail might actually make that front office less stupid somehow.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #277 on: July 13, 2015, 02:37:12 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."


Huey just wants to say he's okay with this as long as Schwarber or Baez aren't involved.

I don't understand this SticKpOke at all.

It's a stickpoke to you repeating three or four times that you aren't cool with trading Schwarber or Baez for Snork, which no sane person has ever or would ever suggest.

Someone's blood sugar must be getting low, as he's gettin' all jumpy and trigger-fingery.

I mentioned in two separate posts that I was opposed to them dealing a blue-chip prospect, though they were part of the same conversation.  One might even say I was merely reiterating my original point--but hey don't let these facts get in the way of your desire to get all chippy for no apparent reason.

It's nice and sunny outside.  Why don't you go throw your kid in a stroller and go for a walk, champ?  get some fresh air, eh?

Just a sloppy, undisciplined team.  Garbage.

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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #278 on: July 13, 2015, 02:43:02 PM »
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."


Huey just wants to say he's okay with this as long as Schwarber or Baez aren't involved.

I don't understand this SticKpOke at all.

It's a stickpoke to you repeating three or four times that you aren't cool with trading Schwarber or Baez for Snork, which no sane person has ever or would ever suggest.

Someone's blood sugar must be getting low, as he's gettin' all jumpy and trigger-fingery.

I mentioned in two separate posts that I was opposed to them dealing a blue-chip prospect, though they were part of the same conversation.  One might even say I was merely reiterating my original point--but hey don't let these facts get in the way of your desire to get all chippy for no apparent reason.

It's nice and sunny outside.  Why don't you go throw your kid in a stroller and go for a walk, champ?  get some fresh air, eh?




Quote from: PANK! on July 07, 2015, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
De-chip-io again today I see.

It really is the essence of this place.

Embrace it.

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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #279 on: July 13, 2015, 06:55:53 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."


Huey just wants to say he's okay with this as long as Schwarber or Baez aren't involved.

I don't understand this SticKpOke at all.

It's a stickpoke to you repeating three or four times that you aren't cool with trading Schwarber or Baez for Snork, which no sane person has ever or would ever suggest.

Someone's blood sugar must be getting low, as he's gettin' all jumpy and trigger-fingery.

I mentioned in two separate posts that I was opposed to them dealing a blue-chip prospect, though they were part of the same conversation.  One might even say I was merely reiterating my original point--but hey don't let these facts get in the way of your desire to get all chippy for no apparent reason.

It's nice and sunny outside.  Why don't you go throw your kid in a stroller and go for a walk, champ?  get some fresh air, eh?




Quote from: PANK! on July 07, 2015, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
De-chip-io again today I see.

It really is the essence of this place.

Embrace it.


NICE

Also, why is Huey assuming that because it's a nice, sunny day in Chicago that it's also a nice, sunny day in Iowa?

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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #280 on: July 13, 2015, 07:41:18 PM »
Quote from: CT III on July 13, 2015, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."


Huey just wants to say he's okay with this as long as Schwarber or Baez aren't involved.

I don't understand this SticKpOke at all.

It's a stickpoke to you repeating three or four times that you aren't cool with trading Schwarber or Baez for Snork, which no sane person has ever or would ever suggest.

Someone's blood sugar must be getting low, as he's gettin' all jumpy and trigger-fingery.

I mentioned in two separate posts that I was opposed to them dealing a blue-chip prospect, though they were part of the same conversation.  One might even say I was merely reiterating my original point--but hey don't let these facts get in the way of your desire to get all chippy for no apparent reason.

It's nice and sunny outside.  Why don't you go throw your kid in a stroller and go for a walk, champ?  get some fresh air, eh?




Quote from: PANK! on July 07, 2015, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
De-chip-io again today I see.

It really is the essence of this place.

Embrace it.


NICE

Also, why is Huey assuming that because it's a nice, sunny day in Chicago that it's also a nice, sunny day in Iowa?

The heat index was like 110 degrees today and my son is 2 months old. I think Huey was trying to get me to kill him, that sick bastard
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #281 on: July 13, 2015, 08:08:46 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 07:41:18 PM
Quote from: CT III on July 13, 2015, 06:55:53 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:43:02 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:37:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:30:31 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 02:29:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2015, 02:25:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 13, 2015, 02:14:15 PM
Papelbon is now just openly asking to be traded to the Cubs.

https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/620665440902234112

QuotePapelbon said he would love to reunite with Lester on #Cubs. "But the decision is not up to me. Believe me, I wish it was."


Huey just wants to say he's okay with this as long as Schwarber or Baez aren't involved.

I don't understand this SticKpOke at all.

It's a stickpoke to you repeating three or four times that you aren't cool with trading Schwarber or Baez for Snork, which no sane person has ever or would ever suggest.

Someone's blood sugar must be getting low, as he's gettin' all jumpy and trigger-fingery.

I mentioned in two separate posts that I was opposed to them dealing a blue-chip prospect, though they were part of the same conversation.  One might even say I was merely reiterating my original point--but hey don't let these facts get in the way of your desire to get all chippy for no apparent reason.

It's nice and sunny outside.  Why don't you go throw your kid in a stroller and go for a walk, champ?  get some fresh air, eh?




Quote from: PANK! on July 07, 2015, 03:42:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 07, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
De-chip-io again today I see.

It really is the essence of this place.

Embrace it.


NICE

Also, why is Huey assuming that because it's a nice, sunny day in Chicago that it's also a nice, sunny day in Iowa?

The heat index was like 110 degrees today and my son is 2 months old. I think Huey was trying to get me to kill him, that sick bastard

Yeah I made that remark while sitting in my comfortably air-conditioned office.  It looked nice outside.

I just got back from coaching my son's 4-and-5 year old T-Ball practice and if that wasn't tedious enough, doing it in what felt like 250 degree heat with 4000% humidity felt like its own special hell. 

I kindly retract my suggestion.
Just a sloppy, undisciplined team.  Garbage.

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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #282 on: July 14, 2015, 03:56:20 AM »
Quote from: PANK! on July 13, 2015, 08:08:46 PM

I just got back from coaching my son's 4-and-5 year old T-Ball practice and if that wasn't tedious enough, doing it in what felt like 250 degree heat with 4000% humidity felt like its own special hell. 


The thought of Softball Huey losing his shit at a T-Ball game is absolutely delicious.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #283 on: July 16, 2015, 04:37:09 AM »
I wonder what it would take to pry Carlos Gomez loose from the Brewers. In-division is a problem, but the Cubs' farm system is good enough to get any team's attention these days. And sorry Milwaukee, but it's a hard pass on Garza.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #284 on: July 16, 2015, 07:53:18 AM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 16, 2015, 04:37:09 AM
I wonder what it would take to pry Carlos Gomez loose from the Brewers. In-division is a problem, but the Cubs' farm system is good enough to get any team's attention these days. And sorry Milwaukee, but it's a hard pass on Garza.

That's a good question. I'd be intrigued by this. Even though he's right-handed so far this year he has a better OPS vs. righties than lefties, so they could platoon him with Dexter. He's also still under team control for next year and would make a better stopgap than most of the options available, and I think we're all pretty hesitant to extend Fowler given how the year has gone so far.

I bet they'd have to give up something of value for him but nothing backbreaking. McKinney, a pitcher of some note (Pierce Johnson? Underwood? I don't really care because there's not room for a kid in the rotation for next year anyway probably and as Pen will tell you pretty soon Dylan Cease and Carson Sands will drink the blood of the nonbelievers so Underwood's expendable), some throw ins.
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