Will Joe Paterno AND Penn State Football Both Die in 2012?

[morpheus]

Hours of good, and by "good" I mean appalling" reading at Penn State's Rival board--here's one example of how someone proposes a punishment that would be grossly ineffective and not nearly enough and gets rebuffed by those who have OD'd on the blue and white kool-aid at least since they were old enough to be touched by Saundusky:

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=156331354&mid=156331354&sid=890&style=2

My favorite claims are "This is not a football issue" and "Sandusky was not a coach."

I'd argue that, technically, it isn't really a football issue. It's much, much bigger than that. It reached all the way to the university president and might include members of the Board of Trustees.

And the cover-up didn't start to protect the football team. It started to protect Joe Paterno's image. Reading the PSU messageboards it's clear that most of those folks are more concerned with clearing St. Joe than protecting the school or the football program. All that's missing is the Kool-Aid.

There's your first mistake.

Nuking the entire state would obviate the need to deal with any of PSU's bullshit at this point.

Said the guy who reads comments on major news sites.

You damn near FACED me on this one.  There's a reason it's called "Gilling the comments."

[PANK!]

Hours of good, and by "good" I mean appalling" reading at Penn State's Rival board--here's one example of how someone proposes a punishment that would be grossly ineffective and not nearly enough and gets rebuffed by those who have OD'd on the blue and white kool-aid at least since they were old enough to be touched by Saundusky:

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=156331354&mid=156331354&sid=890&style=2

My favorite claims are "This is not a football issue" and "Sandusky was not a coach."

I'd argue that, technically, it isn't really a football issue. It's much, much bigger than that. It reached all the way to the university president and might include members of the Board of Trustees.

And the cover-up didn't start to protect the football team. It started to protect Joe Paterno's image. Reading the PSU messageboards it's clear that most of those folks are more concerned with clearing St. Joe than protecting the school or the football program. All that's missing is the Kool-Aid.

There's your first mistake.

Nuking the entire state would obviate the need to deal with any of PSU's bullshit at this point.

Said the guy who reads comments on major news sites.

You damn near FACED me on this one.  There's a reason it's called "Gilling the comments."

I believe this is precisely what makes Gil qualified to warn others.

[Fork]

Hours of good, and by "good" I mean appalling" reading at Penn State's Rival board--here's one example of how someone proposes a punishment that would be grossly ineffective and not nearly enough and gets rebuffed by those who have OD'd on the blue and white kool-aid at least since they were old enough to be touched by Saundusky:

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=156331354&mid=156331354&sid=890&style=2

My favorite claims are "This is not a football issue" and "Sandusky was not a coach."

I'd argue that, technically, it isn't really a football issue. It's much, much bigger than that. It reached all the way to the university president and might include members of the Board of Trustees.

And the cover-up didn't start to protect the football team. It started to protect Joe Paterno's image. Reading the PSU messageboards it's clear that most of those folks are more concerned with clearing St. Joe than protecting the school or the football program. All that's missing is the Kool-Aid.

There's your first mistake.

Nuking the entire state would obviate the need to deal with any of PSU's bullshit at this point.

Said the guy who reads comments on major news sites.

You damn near FACED me on this one.  There's a reason it's called "Gilling the comments."

I believe this is precisely what makes Gil qualified to warn others.

I thought Gil was the warning.

[Gilgamesh]

Hours of good, and by "good" I mean appalling" reading at Penn State's Rival board--here's one example of how someone proposes a punishment that would be grossly ineffective and not nearly enough and gets rebuffed by those who have OD'd on the blue and white kool-aid at least since they were old enough to be touched by Saundusky:

http://bwi.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=36&tid=156331354&mid=156331354&sid=890&style=2

My favorite claims are "This is not a football issue" and "Sandusky was not a coach."

I'd argue that, technically, it isn't really a football issue. It's much, much bigger than that. It reached all the way to the university president and might include members of the Board of Trustees.

And the cover-up didn't start to protect the football team. It started to protect Joe Paterno's image. Reading the PSU messageboards it's clear that most of those folks are more concerned with clearing St. Joe than protecting the school or the football program. All that's missing is the Kool-Aid.

There's your first mistake.

Nuking the entire state would obviate the need to deal with any of PSU's bullshit at this point.

Said the guy who reads comments on major news sites.

You damn near FACED me on this one.  There's a reason it's called "Gilling the comments."

I believe this is precisely what makes Gil qualified to warn others.

I thought Gil was the warning.

The canary in the coal mine.   I read them so you don't have to.

[Brownie]

No death penalty from the NCAA but tough sanctions anyway?

[J. Walter Weatherman]

No death penalty from the NCAA but tough sanctions anyway?

The Penn State trustees' hope that the statue's removal might send a positive message was trumped by the NCAA, which had already decided.

"Emmert has been given full reign by the pansy presidents (at other universities) to make his own decision," said the trustee, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "He has been given the authority to impose these unprecedented sanctions. It's horrible."

Way to help burnish that tarnished public image, unnamed Penn State trustee.

[Gilgamesh]

[J. Walter Weatherman]

Now there's an image in need of no improving.

[Internet Apex]

Now there's an image in need of no improving.

You're half right.

[CubFaninHydePark]

I set this to be my computer's desktop background today.  It'll probably remain until Week 1 when I replace it with the Bears' schedule.

[Wheezer]

Now there's an image in need of no improving.

You're half right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjHjm5sRqSA

[Edit.--ThisdoesnotexistThisdoesnotexistYouaredevilpeopledonotdothingslikethis.]

[Brownie]

OK, so it's not the death penalty, but on the scale of death penalty (SMU), Club Fed (USC) or life in prison (UNLV), Penn State is spending time in John McCain's Vietcong POW camp for a long time.

$60 MM fine
loss of 20 scholarships/year for four years
No bowl games for four years

Indiana picks up 11 wins since 1998!

[Fork]

OK, so it's not the death penalty, but on the scale of death penalty (SMU), Club Fed (USC) or life in prison (UNLV), Penn State is spending time in John McCain's Vietcong POW camp for a long time.

$60 MM fine
loss of 20 scholarships/year for four years
No bowl games for four years

Indiana picks up 11 wins since 1998!

I've never been happier about being wrong. The vacated wins was outstanding.

[Yeti]

I-L-L ..... I-N-I

[Tonker]

How many games did PSU win against Auburn, IL, High School during that period?