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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #390 on: August 20, 2014, 03:56:34 PM »
Quote from: Eli on August 20, 2014, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 20, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
"Troy Glaus without the injuries" is seriously moving the goalposts here.

No it's not.

Yes it is.
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #391 on: August 20, 2014, 03:57:22 PM »
Quote from: Eli on August 20, 2014, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 20, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
"Troy Glaus without the injuries" is seriously moving the goalposts here.

No it's not.

I don't think he gets player comps. When I compare someone to Troy Glaus I'm thinking they'll post similar statistics, not suffer similar injuries and life events. If I compared Jorge Soler to Lou Gehrig I don't expect him to suffer a debilitating muscle disease.
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #392 on: August 20, 2014, 04:01:59 PM »
We need to tell Ted Lilly to go to a doctor before he ends up dead in his hotel room, since according to Baseball Reference he's one of the most similar pitchers to Darryl Kile.
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #393 on: August 20, 2014, 04:07:58 PM »
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #394 on: August 20, 2014, 04:10:53 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on August 20, 2014, 03:56:34 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 20, 2014, 03:56:08 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 20, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
"Troy Glaus without the injuries" is seriously moving the goalposts here.

No it's not.

Yes it is.

It's not, because comps are about general skill-sets. Circumstantial injuries aren't really relevant.

I guess I'm just confused what you're even railing against about at this point, besides living in Arizona at one point. Tons of people, including Jason McLeod, have cited Glaus as a comp for Bryant. That doesn't mean we aren't all hoping he'll be better than Glaus was; it just means they are similar in being tall hitters with tons of power, decent patience and a lot of Ks.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #395 on: August 20, 2014, 04:19:27 PM »
Perhaps Pen would be happier with a different tall-power-hitter comp? Like, say, Richie Sexson?

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #396 on: August 20, 2014, 04:25:25 PM »
This is really entertaining. But wrong thread.
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #397 on: August 20, 2014, 04:27:31 PM »
Quote from: Eli on August 20, 2014, 04:19:27 PM
Perhaps Pen would be happier with a different tall-power-hitter comp? Like, say, Richie Sexson?

So you're saying Bryant is going to suffer a subluxation in his shoulder and miss a year? Why do you hate Kris Bryant?
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #398 on: August 20, 2014, 04:30:56 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on August 20, 2014, 04:25:25 PM
This is really entertaining. But wrong thread.

Oh right. This is the Javy Baez thread. I'd say he could be a HOF 2B in the mold of Robbie Alomar but Pen doesn't want him spitting on umpires.
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #399 on: August 20, 2014, 04:32:59 PM »
Quote from: SKO on August 20, 2014, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 20, 2014, 04:25:25 PM
This is really entertaining. But wrong thread.

Oh right. This is the Javy Baez thread. I'd say he could be a HOF 2B in the mold of Robbie Alomar but Pen doesn't want him spitting on umpires.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #400 on: August 20, 2014, 04:35:12 PM »
Quote from: SKO on August 20, 2014, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 20, 2014, 04:25:25 PM
This is really entertaining. But wrong thread.

Oh right. This is the Javy Baez thread. I'd say he could be a HOF 2B in the mold of Robbie Alomar but Pen doesn't want him spitting on umpires.

I'll take Alomar.

We can agree on this.

I actually think your Soriano comp isn't terrible here. 
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #401 on: August 20, 2014, 04:48:05 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on August 20, 2014, 03:29:29 PM
So, true story - I was doing some research to make a big deal about how I wouldn't be satisfied with Troy Glaus because Bryant's power history to date (college and minors) was really unrivaled and I wanted to set the bar higher.

AND WOULDN'T YOU FUCKING KNOW IT...

Most Homers in a season, College, Third Basemen
1. TROY FUCKING GLAUS - 34 (UCLA, 1997)
2. Kris Bryant - 31 (SDSU USD, 2013)

So I stopped there and now I hate everything.

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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #402 on: August 20, 2014, 04:54:46 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on August 20, 2014, 04:35:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 20, 2014, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 20, 2014, 04:25:25 PM
This is really entertaining. But wrong thread.

Oh right. This is the Javy Baez thread. I'd say he could be a HOF 2B in the mold of Robbie Alomar but Pen doesn't want him spitting on umpires.

I'll take Alomar.

We can agree on this.

I actually think your Soriano comp isn't terrible here. 

Impossible, Javy's never played in Japan
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #403 on: August 20, 2014, 04:55:59 PM »
Quote from: SKO on August 20, 2014, 04:54:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 20, 2014, 04:35:12 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 20, 2014, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on August 20, 2014, 04:25:25 PM
This is really entertaining. But wrong thread.

Oh right. This is the Javy Baez thread. I'd say he could be a HOF 2B in the mold of Robbie Alomar but Pen doesn't want him spitting on umpires.

I'll take Alomar.

We can agree on this.

I actually think your Soriano comp isn't terrible here. 

Impossible, Javy's never played in Japan

Not yet.
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Re: Javier Baez 2014 ROY-MVP-World Series MVP Thread
« Reply #404 on: August 20, 2014, 06:34:28 PM »
Quote from: Fork on August 19, 2014, 02:28:00 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 19, 2014, 02:15:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 19, 2014, 01:26:22 PM
Part of the adjustment will also be as the talent at the big-league level improves, Baez will get more ABs with runners on base - particularly 1st. This will mean more fastballs in/near the strike zone (to prevent stealing) and more balls being sent to far-away places.

I don't have the time to look it up, but this just seems like something that isn't really statistically true.

His splits (38 PAs with bases empty vs. 24 PAs with men on - small sample size, I know.) show better numbers (a 63 point spread in OPS) with men on.

I'm more curious how we know he'll be getting more ABs with guys on base.