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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #120 on: August 15, 2015, 11:21:38 AM »
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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #121 on: August 15, 2015, 04:25:32 PM »
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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #122 on: September 21, 2015, 02:44:24 PM »
Get a load of these guys.

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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #123 on: September 21, 2015, 02:52:18 PM »
I did at least enjoy last week's "well hey at least they're more competitive than last year's Bears!" narrative dying immediately. Nope, they still just suck.
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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #124 on: September 21, 2015, 03:03:22 PM »
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 02:52:18 PM
I did at least enjoy last week's "well hey at least they're more competitive than last year's Bears!" narrative dying immediately. Nope, they still just suck.

I'm actively hoping for the first overall pick, or at least top 3

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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #125 on: September 21, 2015, 03:05:23 PM »
Quote from: Eli on September 21, 2015, 02:44:24 PM
Get a load of these guys.

I wonder if John Fox expected this or what. This is not going to be fun for him or anyone, really. Packer fans.

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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #126 on: September 21, 2015, 03:11:07 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on September 21, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 21, 2015, 02:44:24 PM
Get a load of these guys.

I wonder if John Fox expected this or what. This is not going to be fun for him or anyone, really. Packer fans.

I think there was the perception that because Trestman was such a pushover and nearly every veteran on the team last year has made some statement that amounts to "yeah we just stopped trying last year" that the team was maybe better than they were last year and just needed a guy like Fox to discipline them back into shape.

The reality is that this team has drafted basically nobody of consequence outside of maybe Alshon Jeffrey (who gets hurt all of the fucking time, anyway) and Forte (who is old as shit in RB years) in a decade. The bottom was always going to fall out and when it did it was going to be far more than a one or even two year project to fix. Hell, arguably the only thing that can save them is falling ass backwards into an actual star quarterback. I'm not sure there even is one at the top of next year's draft but they might as well tank and take whatever is there.
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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #127 on: September 21, 2015, 03:19:08 PM »
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Hell, arguably the only thing that can save them is falling ass backwards into an actual star quarterback. I'm not sure there even is one at the top of next year's draft but they might as well tank and take whatever is there.

I feel like there's a good quarterback drafted about once every six years, so probably not.

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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #128 on: September 21, 2015, 03:26:20 PM »
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: Slaky on September 21, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 21, 2015, 02:44:24 PM
Get a load of these guys.

I wonder if John Fox expected this or what. This is not going to be fun for him or anyone, really. Packer fans.

I think there was the perception that because Trestman was such a pushover and nearly every veteran on the team last year has made some statement that amounts to "yeah we just stopped trying last year" that the team was maybe better than they were last year and just needed a guy like Fox to discipline them back into shape.

The reality is that this team has drafted basically nobody of consequence outside of maybe Alshon Jeffrey (who gets hurt all of the fucking time, anyway) and Forte (who is old as shit in RB years) in a decade. The bottom was always going to fall out and when it did it was going to be far more than a one or even two year project to fix. Hell, arguably the only thing that can save them is falling ass backwards into an actual star quarterback. I'm not sure there even is one at the top of next year's draft but they might as well tank and take whatever is there.

What's alarming is that the front office seem to be on board with the perception as opposed to the reality. Jeffrey and Forte should have been actively shopped in the offseason, and Forte should be shopped now. Every action from here on out (and it should have been when the Ryan Pace Era ... Began!!) should be focused on rebuilding the franchise. Instead, they go out and get Eddie Royal and Antrel Rolle and Ray McDonald.

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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #129 on: September 21, 2015, 03:32:33 PM »
Quote from: Brownie on September 21, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: Slaky on September 21, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 21, 2015, 02:44:24 PM
Get a load of these guys.

I wonder if John Fox expected this or what. This is not going to be fun for him or anyone, really. Packer fans.

I think there was the perception that because Trestman was such a pushover and nearly every veteran on the team last year has made some statement that amounts to "yeah we just stopped trying last year" that the team was maybe better than they were last year and just needed a guy like Fox to discipline them back into shape.

The reality is that this team has drafted basically nobody of consequence outside of maybe Alshon Jeffrey (who gets hurt all of the fucking time, anyway) and Forte (who is old as shit in RB years) in a decade. The bottom was always going to fall out and when it did it was going to be far more than a one or even two year project to fix. Hell, arguably the only thing that can save them is falling ass backwards into an actual star quarterback. I'm not sure there even is one at the top of next year's draft but they might as well tank and take whatever is there.

What's alarming is that the front office seem to be on board with the perception as opposed to the reality. Jeffrey and Forte should have been actively shopped in the offseason, and Forte should be shopped now. Every action from here on out (and it should have been when the Ryan Pace Era ... Began!!) should be focused on rebuilding the franchise. Instead, they go out and get Eddie Royal and Antrel Rolle and Ray McDonald.


Yeah, I don't think Pace was hired because he was a bright young Theo type, however badly Chuck wants to hammer that square peg into that round hole. He was hired because the Saints went from a laughingstock to an elite franchise quickly while he was there (which ignores the fact that they only did that because Drew Brees was a god and hit free agency by a convoluted set of circumstances that'll never happen again, and now that he's less Godlike they suck again) and I'm pretty sure he sold Philips and the McCaskeys on being able to turn this around quickly. I don't think John Fox, Adam Gase (who had a bright future with a reputation as young guru and nearly got the niners head gig), and Fangio all sign up with this team if they thought it was rebuilding.

I found nothing in the rhetoric that the McCaskeys offered when firing Emery to be reassuring as to the direction of the franchise. It's all still a search for one last band-aid that'll help them sneak into the playoffs at 10-6 and maybe get lucky once they're there.  

I'm usually not a BLAME DA CHEAP MCCASKEYS conspiracy theorist, but this one is on them. They don't know what they're dealing with or how to fix it.
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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #130 on: September 21, 2015, 03:47:00 PM »
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 21, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: Slaky on September 21, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 21, 2015, 02:44:24 PM
Get a load of these guys.

I wonder if John Fox expected this or what. This is not going to be fun for him or anyone, really. Packer fans.

I think there was the perception that because Trestman was such a pushover and nearly every veteran on the team last year has made some statement that amounts to "yeah we just stopped trying last year" that the team was maybe better than they were last year and just needed a guy like Fox to discipline them back into shape.

The reality is that this team has drafted basically nobody of consequence outside of maybe Alshon Jeffrey (who gets hurt all of the fucking time, anyway) and Forte (who is old as shit in RB years) in a decade. The bottom was always going to fall out and when it did it was going to be far more than a one or even two year project to fix. Hell, arguably the only thing that can save them is falling ass backwards into an actual star quarterback. I'm not sure there even is one at the top of next year's draft but they might as well tank and take whatever is there.

What's alarming is that the front office seem to be on board with the perception as opposed to the reality. Jeffrey and Forte should have been actively shopped in the offseason, and Forte should be shopped now. Every action from here on out (and it should have been when the Ryan Pace Era ... Began!!) should be focused on rebuilding the franchise. Instead, they go out and get Eddie Royal and Antrel Rolle and Ray McDonald.


Yeah, I don't think Pace was hired because he was a bright young Theo type, however badly Chuck wants to hammer that square peg into that round hole. He was hired because the Saints went from a laughingstock to an elite franchise quickly while he was there (which ignores the fact that they only did that because Drew Brees was a god and hit free agency by a convoluted set of circumstances that'll never happen again, and now that he's less Godlike they suck again) and I'm pretty sure he sold Philips and the McCaskeys on being able to turn this around quickly. I don't think John Fox, Adam Gase (who had a bright future with a reputation as young guru and nearly got the niners head gig), and Fangio all sign up with this team if they thought it was rebuilding.

I found nothing in the rhetoric that the McCaskeys offered when firing Emery to be reassuring as to the direction of the franchise. It's all still a search for one last band-aid that'll help them sneak into the playoffs at 10-6 and maybe get lucky once they're there.  

I'm usually not a BLAME DA CHEAP MCCASKEYS conspiracy theorist, but this one is on them. They don't know what they're dealing with or how to fix it.

It's not that the McCaskeys are cheap so much as that they're just a family of completely inept morons.
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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #131 on: September 21, 2015, 04:06:39 PM »
Quote from: Eli on September 21, 2015, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Hell, arguably the only thing that can save them is falling ass backwards into an actual star quarterback. I'm not sure there even is one at the top of next year's draft but they might as well tank and take whatever is there.

I feel like there's a good quarterback drafted about once every six years, so probably not.

There is one out here.  But the Bears never look any further west than Iowa when it comes to the draft.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25309222/cal-qb-jared-goff-dazzles-vs-texas-makes-case-for-no-1-overall
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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #132 on: September 21, 2015, 04:07:58 PM »
Quote from: CBStew on September 21, 2015, 04:06:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 21, 2015, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Hell, arguably the only thing that can save them is falling ass backwards into an actual star quarterback. I'm not sure there even is one at the top of next year's draft but they might as well tank and take whatever is there.

I feel like there's a good quarterback drafted about once every six years, so probably not.

There is one out here.  But the Bears never look any further west than Iowa when it comes to the draft.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25309222/cal-qb-jared-goff-dazzles-vs-texas-makes-case-for-no-1-overall

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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #133 on: September 21, 2015, 04:28:05 PM »
Quote from: CBStew on September 21, 2015, 04:06:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 21, 2015, 03:19:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Hell, arguably the only thing that can save them is falling ass backwards into an actual star quarterback. I'm not sure there even is one at the top of next year's draft but they might as well tank and take whatever is there.

I feel like there's a good quarterback drafted about once every six years, so probably not.

There is one out here.  But the Bears never look any further west than Iowa when it comes to the draft.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/nfl-draft-scout/25309222/cal-qb-jared-goff-dazzles-vs-texas-makes-case-for-no-1-overall

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Re: The Ryan Pace Era... BEGINS!!!
« Reply #134 on: September 21, 2015, 04:40:08 PM »
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:32:33 PM
Quote from: Brownie on September 21, 2015, 03:26:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on September 21, 2015, 03:11:07 PM
Quote from: Slaky on September 21, 2015, 03:05:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on September 21, 2015, 02:44:24 PM
Get a load of these guys.

I wonder if John Fox expected this or what. This is not going to be fun for him or anyone, really. Packer fans.

I think there was the perception that because Trestman was such a pushover and nearly every veteran on the team last year has made some statement that amounts to "yeah we just stopped trying last year" that the team was maybe better than they were last year and just needed a guy like Fox to discipline them back into shape.

The reality is that this team has drafted basically nobody of consequence outside of maybe Alshon Jeffrey (who gets hurt all of the fucking time, anyway) and Forte (who is old as shit in RB years) in a decade. The bottom was always going to fall out and when it did it was going to be far more than a one or even two year project to fix. Hell, arguably the only thing that can save them is falling ass backwards into an actual star quarterback. I'm not sure there even is one at the top of next year's draft but they might as well tank and take whatever is there.

What's alarming is that the front office seem to be on board with the perception as opposed to the reality. Jeffrey and Forte should have been actively shopped in the offseason, and Forte should be shopped now. Every action from here on out (and it should have been when the Ryan Pace Era ... Began!!) should be focused on rebuilding the franchise. Instead, they go out and get Eddie Royal and Antrel Rolle and Ray McDonald.


Yeah, I don't think Pace was hired because he was a bright young Theo type, however badly Chuck wants to hammer that square peg into that round hole. He was hired because the Saints went from a laughingstock to an elite franchise quickly while he was there (which ignores the fact that they only did that because Drew Brees was a god and hit free agency by a convoluted set of circumstances that'll never happen again, and now that he's less Godlike they suck again) and I'm pretty sure he sold Philips and the McCaskeys on being able to turn this around quickly. I don't think John Fox, Adam Gase (who had a bright future with a reputation as young guru and nearly got the niners head gig), and Fangio all sign up with this team if they thought it was rebuilding.

I found nothing in the rhetoric that the McCaskeys offered when firing Emery to be reassuring as to the direction of the franchise. It's all still a search for one last band-aid that'll help them sneak into the playoffs at 10-6 and maybe get lucky once they're there.  

I'm usually not a BLAME DA CHEAP MCCASKEYS conspiracy theorist, but this one is on them. They don't know what they're dealing with or how to fix it.

I don't think I've said that Pace is going Full Theo (maybe I have), rather that I've hoped he would. The non-release of Cutler was very disappointing because it suggested he was going Full Kenny Williams.