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SKO

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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM »
Someone pointed out on twitter that the Braves as a team only have 3 homers through 14 games and however many innings they've played so far today. I'm sure they'll inevitably hit more dingers eventually, but wow is that shitty. That's a 35 homer pace for an entire season.

I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs (for a full season anyway, there were obviously some weak totals during the 81 strike season)

When the Braves tank, they really tank.
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2016, 02:27:28 PM »
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM


I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs

Holy shit, that's with Nate Colbert hitting 24 and Ollie Brown hitting 20.
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2016, 02:49:22 PM »
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Someone pointed out on twitter that the Braves as a team only have 3 homers through 14 games and however many innings they've played so far today. I'm sure they'll inevitably hit more dingers eventually, but wow is that shitty. That's a 35 homer pace for an entire season.

I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs (for a full season anyway, there were obviously some weak totals during the 81 strike season)

When the Braves tank, they really tank.

1979 Houston Astros: 49
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/1979.shtml


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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2016, 03:10:57 PM »
Quote from: Yeti on April 21, 2016, 02:49:22 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Someone pointed out on twitter that the Braves as a team only have 3 homers through 14 games and however many innings they've played so far today. I'm sure they'll inevitably hit more dingers eventually, but wow is that shitty. That's a 35 homer pace for an entire season.

I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs (for a full season anyway, there were obviously some weak totals during the 81 strike season)

When the Braves tank, they really tank.

1979 Houston Astros: 49
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/1979.shtml



Pythagorean Champs, right there. 89 wins. 39-27 in one run games. 20-8 in June despite being outscored 87-90.

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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #64 on: April 21, 2016, 03:38:57 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on April 21, 2016, 03:10:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on April 21, 2016, 02:49:22 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2016, 02:19:09 PM
Someone pointed out on twitter that the Braves as a team only have 3 homers through 14 games and however many innings they've played so far today. I'm sure they'll inevitably hit more dingers eventually, but wow is that shitty. That's a 35 homer pace for an entire season.

I'm not sure how to search team home run totals but the worst I think I've been able to find in the expansion era is the 1969 Padres and their 99 dongs (for a full season anyway, there were obviously some weak totals during the 81 strike season)

When the Braves tank, they really tank.

1979 Houston Astros: 49
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/1979.shtml



Pythagorean Champs, right there. 89 wins. 39-27 in one run games. 20-8 in June despite being outscored 87-90.

Holy shit. 89 wins despite being dead last in the NL in runs at 3.6 per game. Good pull, Yeti.
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2016, 08:57:06 AM »
Current projected win totals for AL teams via Fangraphs(I rounded up):

Red Sox 87
Indians 87
White Sox 84
Blue Jays 84
Orioles 83
Astros 83
Royals 82
Mariners 82
Yankees 81
A's 81
Tigers 80
Rays 80
Rangers 78
Angels 78
Twins 74

Every team but the poor Twins has at least a 15.5% chance of making the playoffs. No one is currently sitting higher than 66.6% (vs the NL, where the Nationals, Mets, Cubs, and Dodgers are all looking at 83-96%).

This should be fun to monitor all year long. All hail sweet, sweet chaos.
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #66 on: April 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM »
For the low, low price of $206 million, two top prospects, and a 3-5 WAR outfielder, the Diamondbacks got Zack Greinke and Shelby Miller this offseason.

So far the two have combined for 10 starts, 50.1 IP, a 1.66 WHIP, 11 homers allowed, just 40 strikeouts, 21 walks (15 of them by Miller in just 19.2 innings), and a combined ERA of 7.19. Neither of them can even really cry the bad luck excuse, Greinke's FIP is 4.24 and Miller's is 7.73. They're just getting the shit kicked out of them.

Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #67 on: April 27, 2016, 11:15:01 AM »
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM


Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.

Remember that time the Braves asked for Bryant for him? that was awesome.
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #68 on: April 27, 2016, 11:17:56 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 27, 2016, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM


Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.

Remember that time the Braves asked for Bryant for him? that was awesome.

It's fun to laugh at them for that but I'm guessing every GM the Cubs have called for any trades for a top flight starting pitcher probably asks for Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, etc. You'd be dumb not to ask. Obviously they had to start with a high asking price in order to get the deal they got from the Diamondbacks.
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #69 on: April 27, 2016, 12:01:16 PM »
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 11:17:56 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 27, 2016, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM


Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.

Remember that time the Braves asked for Bryant for him? that was awesome.

It's fun to laugh at them for that but I'm guessing every GM the Cubs have called for any trades for a top flight starting pitcher probably asks for Bryant, Russell, Schwarber, etc. You'd be dumb not to ask. Obviously they had to start with a high asking price in order to get the deal they got from the Diamondbacks.

I'm pretty sure any GM who calls Jepstink asks for Arrieta/Bryant/Rizzo as an icebreaker for a laugh, just like Jepstink might ask Billy Epler for Trout. But it sounded at the time like the Braves weren't joking, and there was no way the Cubs were trading 7 wins for 3.
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #70 on: April 27, 2016, 04:58:05 PM »
Quote from: SKO on April 27, 2016, 10:12:34 AM
For the low, low price of $206 million, two top prospects, and a 3-5 WAR outfielder, the Diamondbacks got Zack Greinke and Shelby Miller this offseason.

So far the two have combined for 10 starts, 50.1 IP, a 1.66 WHIP, 11 homers allowed, just 40 strikeouts, 21 walks (15 of them by Miller in just 19.2 innings), and a combined ERA of 7.19. Neither of them can even really cry the bad luck excuse, Greinke's FIP is 4.24 and Miller's is 7.73. They're just getting the shit kicked out of them.

Neither is obviously going to stay this bad, but Miller especially isn't exactly disproving the critics who said he was a #3/4 starter who peaked last year and that the Braves committed highway robbery in that trade.

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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #71 on: May 04, 2016, 07:13:23 PM »
You two wanna go stick your wangs in a hornet's nest, it's a free country.  But how come I always gotta get sloppy seconds, huh?

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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #72 on: May 06, 2016, 11:14:38 AM »
DPD.  Garrett Richards needs Tommy John.  Andrew Heaney might.  CJ Wilson is already hurt, and the Angels look like they might be done.  Looking over their roster, it's pretty much nothing but hot garbage, a few solid but unspectacular pieces, and Mike Trout.  If anyone's ever going to pry him loose, now might be the time.
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #73 on: May 06, 2016, 01:46:50 PM »
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Re: 2016 MLB Thread
« Reply #74 on: May 06, 2016, 02:22:16 PM »
Quote from: Saul Goodman on May 06, 2016, 11:14:38 AM
DPD.  Garrett Richards needs Tommy John.  Andrew Heaney might.  CJ Wilson is already hurt, and the Angels look like they might be done.  Looking over their roster, it's pretty much nothing but hot garbage, a few solid but unspectacular pieces, and Mike Trout.  If anyone's ever going to pry him loose, now might be the time.

I thought about this and then thought of something else...I think, with their payroll, they need to trot trout out there all year long.  After this season, they can be resigned to getting Richards back around the All-Star break.  They'll have Weaver and Wilson coming off the books and Hamilton the year after that.  That's going to leave them with plenty of coin to throw around at the AMAZING, TOTALLY UNBLELIEVABLE free agent classes in the coming years.

So...probably not?  I don't know.