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Quote from: Waco Kid on January 24, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
Trade away that useless sack of shit Cutler and start the one and true Chicago Bear in heart and spirit, Caleb Hanie.

Also, fire everybody and hire Mike Singletary as head coach, GM, & VP of Fire and Passion.

Quote from: Waco Kid on January 24, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
Trade away that useless sack of shit Cutler and start the one and true Chicago Bear in heart and spirit, Caleb Hanie.

Also, fire everybody and hire Mike Singletary as head coach, GM, & VP of Fire and Passion.

Quote from: BBM on January 24, 2011, 08:32:39 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on January 24, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
Trade away that useless sack of shit Cutler and start the one and true Chicago Bear in heart and spirit, Caleb Hanie.

Also, fire everybody and hire Mike Singletary as head coach, GM, & VP of Fire and Passion.

Sign Ortman to a lifetime contract.  Neckbeards don't get torn ACLs.

Quote from: fiveouts on January 24, 2011, 09:46:34 AM
Would it be too much to ask for a wide receiver who is taller than 5'2" and is actually strong enough to go up and battle for a ball? 

Quote from: fiveouts on January 24, 2011, 09:46:34 AM
Would it be too much to ask for a wide receiver who is taller than 5'2" and is actually strong enough to go up and battle for a ball?  

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 24, 2011, 10:02:50 AM

Quote from: fiveouts on January 24, 2011, 09:46:34 AM
Would it be too much to ask for a wide receiver who is taller than 5'2" and is actually strong enough to go up and battle for a ball? 

Inasmuch as that would detract from the quest for a reasonable facsimile of an NFL offensive line, probably.

I've had enough of the Bears trying to build the team backwards.

Quote from: BBM on January 24, 2011, 10:19:55 AM

Quote from: fiveouts on January 24, 2011, 09:46:34 AM
Would it be too much to ask for a wide receiver who is taller than 5'2" and is actually strong enough to go up and battle for a ball?  

Devin Aromashodu perhaps? You didn't say anything about catching the ball.

Quote from: Tony on January 24, 2011, 10:34:52 AM
Everyone knows they should be drafting offensive linemen, so the question is...how many defensive ends does Angelo draft? I say two, in the first and third rounds.

Quote from: Oleg on January 24, 2011, 08:18:33 AM

Quote from: Waco Kid on January 24, 2011, 07:45:17 AM
Trade away that useless sack of shit Cutler and start the one and true Chicago Bear in heart and spirit, Caleb Hanie.

Also, fire everybody and hire Mike Singletary as head coach, GM, & VP of Fire and Passion.

I swear my co-worker sitting behind said something to the affect of "Hanie moved the ball and if Cutler was int he game he wouldn't have been able to".  I muttered a few words about defense and The Packers being up 21-7.  He then said that Cutler wouldn't have been able to do that.  I turned around and he started yelling at me about my being right all the time and that no one could argue with me.

Yep, he's right about that.

Quote from: PenPho on January 31, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Eagles request permission to interview Bears DB Coach for their DC position.  (http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/source_eagles_request_to_interview_bears_assistant/4071429)

Quote from: SKO on January 31, 2011, 05:23:48 PM

Quote from: PenPho on January 31, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Eagles request permission to interview Bears DB Coach for their DC position.  (http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/source_eagles_request_to_interview_bears_assistant/4071429)

Why would they do that? Charles Tillman (Fuck you) doesn't even know who to cover in an 11 on 11 situation. He just wanders off in the Cover Who and lets receivers do whatever they want.

Quote from: SKO on January 31, 2011, 05:23:48 PM

Quote from: PenPho on January 31, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Eagles request permission to interview Bears DB Coach for their DC position.  (http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/source_eagles_request_to_interview_bears_assistant/4071429)

Why would they do that? Charles Tillman doesn't even know who to cover in an 11 on 11 situation. He just wanders off in the Cover Who and lets receivers do whatever they want.

Quote from: R-V on January 31, 2011, 09:21:49 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 31, 2011, 05:23:48 PM

Quote from: PenPho on January 31, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Eagles request permission to interview Bears DB Coach for their DC position.  (http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/source_eagles_request_to_interview_bears_assistant/4071429)

Why would they do that? Charles Tillman doesn't even know who to cover in an 11 on 11 situation. He just wanders off in the Cover Who and lets receivers do whatever they want.

Please tell me Fro Dog coined this phrase.

QuoteI want a safety who actually knows that if they are playing that crappy "Cover Who", that they wouldn't wander off letting a receiver go down the field for an easy touchdown (Danieal Manning).

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on January 31, 2011, 09:29:31 PM

Quote from: R-V on January 31, 2011, 09:21:49 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 31, 2011, 05:23:48 PM

Quote from: PenPho on January 31, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Eagles request permission to interview Bears DB Coach for their DC position.  (http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/source_eagles_request_to_interview_bears_assistant/4071429)

Why would they do that? Charles Tillman doesn't even know who to cover in an 11 on 11 situation. He just wanders off in the Cover Who and lets receivers do whatever they want.

Please tell me Fro Dog coined this phrase.

No one around here is brilliant enough to come up with something like that. (http://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/moving-on/)

QuoteI want a safety who actually knows that if they are playing that crappy "Cover Who", that they wouldn't wander off letting a receiver go down the field for an easy touchdown (Danieal Manning).

Quote from: CT III on January 31, 2011, 09:31:49 PM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on January 31, 2011, 09:29:31 PM

Quote from: R-V on January 31, 2011, 09:21:49 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 31, 2011, 05:23:48 PM

Quote from: PenPho on January 31, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Eagles request permission to interview Bears DB Coach for their DC position.  (http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/source_eagles_request_to_interview_bears_assistant/4071429)

Why would they do that? Charles Tillman doesn't even know who to cover in an 11 on 11 situation. He just wanders off in the Cover Who and lets receivers do whatever they want.

Please tell me Fro Dog coined this phrase.

No one around here is brilliant enough to come up with something like that. (http://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/moving-on/)

QuoteI want a safety who actually knows that if they are playing that crappy "Cover Who", that they wouldn't wander off letting a receiver go down the field for an easy touchdown (Danieal Manning).

I prefer the "I-Pass defense" myself.

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 01, 2011, 05:20:02 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 31, 2011, 09:31:49 PM

Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on January 31, 2011, 09:29:31 PM

Quote from: R-V on January 31, 2011, 09:21:49 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 31, 2011, 05:23:48 PM

Quote from: PenPho on January 31, 2011, 05:18:27 PM
Eagles request permission to interview Bears DB Coach for their DC position.  (http://www.yardbarker.com/blog/nflbuzz/source_eagles_request_to_interview_bears_assistant/4071429)

Why would they do that? Charles Tillman doesn't even know who to cover in an 11 on 11 situation. He just wanders off in the Cover Who and lets receivers do whatever they want.

Please tell me Fro Dog coined this phrase.

No one around here is brilliant enough to come up with something like that. (http://firedustybaker2.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/moving-on/)

QuoteI want a safety who actually knows that if they are playing that crappy "Cover Who", that they wouldn't wander off letting a receiver go down the field for an easy touchdown (Danieal Manning).

I prefer the "I-Pass defense" myself.

You would

Quote2010 overview: The Bears again finished as one of the best special teams units in the NFL and Toub again turned the trick while juggling personnel. The Bears made linebacker Tim Shaw one of their final cuts in September, a surprising move after he had set a franchise record with 30 tackles the year before. The Bears knew linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer was dealing with post-concussion symptoms and they still chose to unload Shaw because he didn't fit into a backup role on defense. When Hillenmeyer was placed on injured reserve after Week 1, cutting Shaw looked even worse. But he didn't have any trouble finding work as the Tennessee Titans claimed him on waivers.

Without Shaw, the Bears proved to be OK. Would they have been better with him? No question. But new linebacker Brian Iwuh was a better fit on defense and he proved capable on special teams, finishing tied for second with 18 total tackles and third with 10 solos. While Shaw led the team in tackles in 2009, Graham was the point production leader that season and he topped the charts for Toub again this season.

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 11, 2011, 11:49:03 AM
In the least surprising something something file we have Brad Biggs' positional breakdown on the Bears' Special Teams unit. While it was one of the league's best this year without question, Biggs still wonders what might have been...

Quote2010 overview: The Bears again finished as one of the best special teams units in the NFL and Toub again turned the trick while juggling personnel. The Bears made linebacker Tim Shaw one of their final cuts in September, a surprising move after he had set a franchise record with 30 tackles the year before. The Bears knew linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer was dealing with post-concussion symptoms and they still chose to unload Shaw because he didn't fit into a backup role on defense. When Hillenmeyer was placed on injured reserve after Week 1, cutting Shaw looked even worse. But he didn't have any trouble finding work as the Tennessee Titans claimed him on waivers.

Without Shaw, the Bears proved to be OK. Would they have been better with him? No question. But new linebacker Brian Iwuh was a better fit on defense and he proved capable on special teams, finishing tied for second with 18 total tackles and third with 10 solos. While Shaw led the team in tackles in 2009, Graham was the point production leader that season and he topped the charts for Toub again this season.

Jesus Christ. This has cruised right on past strange and is rapping vociferously at creepy's back door.


http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/bears-positional-analysis-special-teams.html

Quote from: Slaky on February 11, 2011, 11:49:58 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 11, 2011, 11:49:03 AM
In the least surprising something something file we have Brad Biggs' positional breakdown on the Bears' Special Teams unit. While it was one of the league's best this year without question, Biggs still wonders what might have been...

Quote2010 overview: The Bears again finished as one of the best special teams units in the NFL and Toub again turned the trick while juggling personnel. The Bears made linebacker Tim Shaw one of their final cuts in September, a surprising move after he had set a franchise record with 30 tackles the year before. The Bears knew linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer was dealing with post-concussion symptoms and they still chose to unload Shaw because he didn't fit into a backup role on defense. When Hillenmeyer was placed on injured reserve after Week 1, cutting Shaw looked even worse. But he didn't have any trouble finding work as the Tennessee Titans claimed him on waivers.

Without Shaw, the Bears proved to be OK. Would they have been better with him? No question. But new linebacker Brian Iwuh was a better fit on defense and he proved capable on special teams, finishing tied for second with 18 total tackles and third with 10 solos. While Shaw led the team in tackles in 2009, Graham was the point production leader that season and he topped the charts for Toub again this season.

Jesus Christ. This has cruised right on past strange and is rapping vociferously at creepy's back door.


http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/bears-positional-analysis-special-teams.html

Good old Shawsy - always stealing Biggsy's laptop and writing articles for him. He's a crafty, gentle lover.

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 11, 2011, 11:49:03 AM
In the least surprising something something file we have Brad Biggs' positional breakdown on the Bears' Special Teams unit. While it was one of the league's best this year without question, Biggs still wonders what might have been...

Quote2010 overview: The Bears again finished as one of the best special teams units in the NFL and Toub again turned the trick while juggling personnel. The Bears made linebacker Tim Shaw one of their final cuts in September, a surprising move after he had set a franchise record with 30 tackles the year before. The Bears knew linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer was dealing with post-concussion symptoms and they still chose to unload Shaw because he didn't fit into a backup role on defense. When Hillenmeyer was placed on injured reserve after Week 1, cutting Shaw looked even worse. But he didn't have any trouble finding work as the Tennessee Titans claimed him on waivers.

Without Shaw, the Bears proved to be OK. Would they have been better with him? No question. But new linebacker Brian Iwuh was a better fit on defense and he proved capable on special teams, finishing tied for second with 18 total tackles and third with 10 solos. While Shaw led the team in tackles in 2009, Graham was the point production leader that season and he topped the charts for Toub again this season.

Jesus Christ. This has cruised right on past strange and is rapping vociferously at creepy's back door.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2011/02/bears-positional-analysis-special-teams.html

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 14, 2011, 10:52:27 PM
Not even football can make the NLRB less boring. (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=6121861)

Quote from: thehawk on February 15, 2011, 11:21:28 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 14, 2011, 10:52:27 PM
Not even football can make the NLRB less boring. (http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=6121861)

Not to mention anti-trust law.  But since I specialize in boring, assume that the owners do lock out  the players, and the NFLPA 'decertifies' (however that works), what then happens?  Is each player then essentially a free agent? Does basically any NFL labor related action (the draft a cap etc) become an automatic anti-trust violation?  Do dogs and cats start living together? Can I write another sentence without a quetion mark?

Quote from: Timmy B on February 19, 2011, 06:11:20 PM
Basically, decertification is the players' nuclear option. When that happens, the union for the players would dissolve, becoming, ostensibly, a trade organization, and the NFL's antitrust exemption would go away (as long as they're negotiating with an elected union. they're given an anti-trust exemption). Based upon anti-trust law, if the NFL clubs, acting as 32 individual businesses, were to attempt to lock out the players, it would be a group boycott of the workers -- which is illegal. It would then open the NFL up to a class-action lawsuit by every individual player, and based on precedent, it would lose.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 19, 2011, 06:44:08 PM
If I didn't know better, I'd say you were an attorney for the Labor Board too.

Quote from: CBStew on February 19, 2011, 07:50:03 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 19, 2011, 06:44:08 PM
If I didn't know better, I'd say you were an attorney for the Labor Board too.

That's a terrible thing to say about anyone.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 19, 2011, 06:44:08 PM
If I didn't know better, I'd say you were an attorney for the Labor Board too.

Quote from: Timmy B on February 20, 2011, 07:50:36 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 19, 2011, 06:44:08 PM
If I didn't know better, I'd say you were an attorney for the Labor Board too.

Worse -- I'm at a convention & visitors bureauin Kermit's basement, humping a giant scorpion.  Afterwards?  I'm gonna piss on that rug of his.

Quote from: BH on February 25, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
Nothing on Lovie's 2 year extension?

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 25, 2011, 01:48:25 PM

Quote from: BH on February 25, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
Nothing on Lovie's 2 year extension?

I'm sure Frosenbloom has something on it. What word from Slezak though?

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 25, 2011, 01:48:25 PM

Quote from: BH on February 25, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
Nothing on Lovie's 2 year extension?

I'm sure Frosenbloom has something on it. What word from Slezak though?

Quote from: BH on February 25, 2011, 01:50:47 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 25, 2011, 01:48:25 PM

Quote from: BH on February 25, 2011, 01:10:04 PM
Nothing on Lovie's 2 year extension?

I'm sure Frosenbloom has something on it. What word from Slezak though?

She doesn't get off work until around 5, so I'll check back in around 7.

Quote from: Tony on March 02, 2011, 05:24:34 PM
http://www.kcchronicle.com/2011/03/01/police-battery-suspect-was-naked-shouting-about-bears-qb/awgr3gj/ (http://www.kcchronicle.com/2011/03/01/police-battery-suspect-was-naked-shouting-about-bears-qb/awgr3gj/)

Quote from: Eli on March 02, 2011, 09:19:18 PM

Quote from: Tony on March 02, 2011, 05:24:34 PM
http://www.kcchronicle.com/2011/03/01/police-battery-suspect-was-naked-shouting-about-bears-qb/awgr3gj/ (http://www.kcchronicle.com/2011/03/01/police-battery-suspect-was-naked-shouting-about-bears-qb/awgr3gj/)

Based on the URL, I assume this is about SKO.

Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 12:01:25 PM
Enjoy the kickoffs from the 35 yard line next year. The score is reporting they received the press release saying the change is official.

Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 12:05:05 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 12:01:25 PM
Enjoy the kickoffs from the 35 yard line next year. The score is reporting they received the press release saying the change is official.

Intrepid Reader: Biggsy

Wonder what Tim Shaw is up to right now... [dream sequence/lotion/old t-shirt/Doritos]

QuoteKickoffs from the 35 = more touchbacks = less bone jarring tackles by the Tim Shaws of the world, right?

Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 12:01:25 PM
Enjoy the kickoffs from the 35 yard line next year. The score is reporting they received the press release saying the change is official.

Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2011, 12:18:14 PM

Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 12:05:05 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 12:01:25 PM
Enjoy the kickoffs from the 35 yard line next year. The score is reporting they received the press release saying the change is official.

Intrepid Reader: Biggsy

Wonder what Tim Shaw is up to right now... [dream sequence/lotion/old t-shirt/Doritos]

Thanks for the reminder, I just laid some Shawbait for the big lug on my twitter machine.

QuoteKickoffs from the 35 = more touchbacks = less bone jarring tackles by the Tim Shaws of the world, right?

Will he bite this time?

Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 12:29:09 PM

Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2011, 12:18:14 PM

Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 12:05:05 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 12:01:25 PM
Enjoy the kickoffs from the 35 yard line next year. The score is reporting they received the press release saying the change is official.

Intrepid Reader: Biggsy

Wonder what Tim Shaw is up to right now... [dream sequence/lotion/old t-shirt/Doritos]

Thanks for the reminder, I just laid some Shawbait for the big lug on my twitter machine.

QuoteKickoffs from the 35 = more touchbacks = less bone jarring tackles by the Tim Shaws of the world, right?

Will he bite this time?

Did you @ him?

Quote from: R-V on March 22, 2011, 12:18:14 PM

Quote from: Slaky on March 22, 2011, 12:05:05 PM

Quote from: Yeti on March 22, 2011, 12:01:25 PM
Enjoy the kickoffs from the 35 yard line next year. The score is reporting they received the press release saying the change is official.

Intrepid Reader: Biggsy

Wonder what Tim Shaw is up to right now... [dream sequence/lotion/old t-shirt/Doritos]

Thanks for the reminder, I just laid some Shawbait for the big lug on my twitter machine.

QuoteKickoffs from the 35 = more touchbacks = less bone jarring tackles by the Tim Shaws of the world, right?

Will he bite this time?

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 26, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
Nothing about Jay's engagement?

Yeah, I don't care either.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 27, 2011, 12:30:02 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 26, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
Nothing about Jay's engagement?

Yeah, I don't care either.

Start here:

http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7734.msg239987#msg239987

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 27, 2011, 06:19:48 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 27, 2011, 12:30:02 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 26, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
Nothing about Jay's engagement?

Yeah, I don't care either.

Start here:

http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7734.msg239987#msg239987

I missed the trade of Jay Cutler from the Bears to the NFL.  /butthurt

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 27, 2011, 06:25:46 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 27, 2011, 06:19:48 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 27, 2011, 12:30:02 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 26, 2011, 10:54:26 PM
Nothing about Jay's engagement?

Yeah, I don't care either.

Start here:

http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7734.msg239987#msg239987

I missed the trade of Jay Cutler from the Bears to the NFL.  /butthurt

You'll have to forgive BH. He's new here.

Quote from: R-V on April 28, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
So who is the Worst GM in the History of Sportz going to pick? Surprisingly readable breakdown of the possibilities here:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0428-pompei-bears-chicago--20110427,0,1674956.column

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 28, 2011, 09:35:18 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 28, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
So who is the Worst GM in the History of Sportz going to pick? Surprisingly readable breakdown of the possibilities here:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0428-pompei-bears-chicago--20110427,0,1674956.column

Oh, fuck. Hendry is with the Bears now?

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 28, 2011, 10:29:10 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 28, 2011, 09:35:18 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 28, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
So who is the Worst GM in the History of Sportz going to pick? Surprisingly readable breakdown of the possibilities here:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0428-pompei-bears-chicago--20110427,0,1674956.column

Oh, fuck. Hendry is with the Bears now?

Intrepid Readers: Matt Millen, Larry Himes and Isiah Thomas  

Hi.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 28, 2011, 11:16:06 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 28, 2011, 10:29:10 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 28, 2011, 09:35:18 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 28, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
So who is the Worst GM in the History of Sportz going to pick? Surprisingly readable breakdown of the possibilities here:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0428-pompei-bears-chicago--20110427,0,1674956.column

Oh, fuck. Hendry is with the Bears now?

Intrepid Readers: Matt Millen, Larry Himes and Isiah Thomas  

Hi.

Hi, guys.  For some reason I was thinking Chicago only.

Quote from: BH on May 23, 2011, 07:52:49 AM
"The Chicago Tribune and the Chicago Sun-Times have confirmed that free agent running back Garrett Wolfe was arrested on early Sunday morning in Miami.
"He became aggressive while being ejected by bouncers, and two off-duty officers were summoned," police detective Juan Sanchez said. "They gave him the opportunity to settle his bill, and he refused. He attacked one of the officers." The four-year veteran is facing charges of retail theft, disorderly conduct, assault of a police officer and resisting arrest with violence. Those are fairly serious charges, and very bad news for a soon-to-be unrestricted free agent that earns his money on special teams."

from ROTOWORLD, bros.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 28, 2011, 11:16:06 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 28, 2011, 10:29:10 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 28, 2011, 09:35:18 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 28, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
So who is the Worst GM in the History of Sportz going to pick? Surprisingly readable breakdown of the possibilities here:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0428-pompei-bears-chicago--20110427,0,1674956.column

Oh, fuck. Hendry is with the Bears now?

Intrepid Readers: Matt Millen, Larry Himes and Isiah Thomas  

Hi.

Hi, guys.  For some reason I was thinking Chicago only.

Quote from: BBM on May 23, 2011, 12:33:26 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 28, 2011, 11:16:06 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on April 28, 2011, 10:29:10 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 28, 2011, 09:35:18 AM

Quote from: R-V on April 28, 2011, 09:27:28 AM
So who is the Worst GM in the History of Sportz going to pick? Surprisingly readable breakdown of the possibilities here:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0428-pompei-bears-chicago--20110427,0,1674956.column

Oh, fuck. Hendry is with the Bears now?

Intrepid Readers: Matt Millen, Larry Himes and Isiah Thomas  

Hi.

Hi, guys.  For some reason I was thinking Chicago only.

Larry Himes GMed somewhere other than chicago?

QuoteIncluded in the report is the assertion that the rules for free agency will revert back to how they were in 2009 and before, meaning all players out of contract with four or more years of service will be unrestricted.

While that has been expectee, clubs still tendered qualifying offers to potential restricted free agents under the system that was used in 2010, when players needed six years of service to be unrestricted.

How will it affect the Chicago Bears? For cornerback Corey Graham, safety Danieal Manning and linebacker Nick Roach, it means good news. Although the Bears tendered a qualifying RFA offer to all three, under these guidelines they will be unrestricted, allowing them to enter the open market.

It's bad news for the team as it reduces the chances all three will return. In fact, Graham is a good bet to leave as a UFA. Roach is probably the best bet of the three to return as the Bears need a starter on the strong side, where he made six starts last season.

Manning, who has five years of service, was one of the players caught up last year by the change in rules. It's the influx of players in situations similar to his that is going to make free agency a bonanza when it opens, probably sometime next month.

The class of free agents will be nearly double its usual size, creating a massive pool of players for teams that will have to fill out rosters and spend to meet a salary-cap floor. If free agency starts in mid-July with training camps scheduled to open on time, it will be a mad dash of activity.

QuoteSome big names will head to free agency. The unofficial list includes wide receivers Steve Breaston, Santonio Holmes, James Jones, Malcolm Floyd and Sidney Rice, running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and DeAngelo Williams, defensive ends Ray Edwards and Jacob Ford, tight ends Kevin Boss and Zach Miller, offensive linemen Willie Colon, Doug Free and Davin Joseph and cornerbacks Antonio Cromartie and Johnathan Joseph.

QuoteStrong hints indicate the Bears will pursue veteran punter Steve Weatherford in free agency. That's just one of the positions the team needs to address.

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Biggsy with an update (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-freeagency-rules-could-prove-costly-to-bears-20110622,0,7671627.story) on the tentative CBA. Whither Danieal Manning? Any chance that Malcom Floyd or Davin Joseph are SKO's new free agency mancrushes? And was I the only person who wasn't aware that Maynard is apparently done as a Bear?

QuoteIncluded in the report is the assertion that the rules for free agency will revert back to how they were in 2009 and before, meaning all players out of contract with four or more years of service will be unrestricted.

While that has been expectee, clubs still tendered qualifying offers to potential restricted free agents under the system that was used in 2010, when players needed six years of service to be unrestricted.

How will it affect the Chicago Bears? For cornerback Corey Graham, safety Danieal Manning and linebacker Nick Roach, it means good news. Although the Bears tendered a qualifying RFA offer to all three, under these guidelines they will be unrestricted, allowing them to enter the open market.

It's bad news for the team as it reduces the chances all three will return. In fact, Graham is a good bet to leave as a UFA. Roach is probably the best bet of the three to return as the Bears need a starter on the strong side, where he made six starts last season.

Manning, who has five years of service, was one of the players caught up last year by the change in rules. It's the influx of players in situations similar to his that is going to make free agency a bonanza when it opens, probably sometime next month.

The class of free agents will be nearly double its usual size, creating a massive pool of players for teams that will have to fill out rosters and spend to meet a salary-cap floor. If free agency starts in mid-July with training camps scheduled to open on time, it will be a mad dash of activity.

QuoteSome big names will head to free agency. The unofficial list includes wide receivers Steve Breaston, Santonio Holmes, James Jones, Malcolm Floyd and Sidney Rice, running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and DeAngelo Williams, defensive ends Ray Edwards and Jacob Ford, tight ends Kevin Boss and Zach Miller, offensive linemen Willie Colon, Doug Free and Davin Joseph and cornerbacks Antonio Cromartie and Johnathan Joseph.

QuoteStrong hints indicate the Bears will pursue veteran punter Steve Weatherford in free agency. That's just one of the positions the team needs to address.

Quote from: morpheus on June 22, 2011, 09:39:12 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Biggsy with an update (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-freeagency-rules-could-prove-costly-to-bears-20110622,0,7671627.story) on the tentative CBA. Whither Danieal Manning? Any chance that Malcom Floyd or Davin Joseph are SKO's new free agency mancrushes? And was I the only person who wasn't aware that Maynard is apparently done as a Bear?

QuoteIncluded in the report is the assertion that the rules for free agency will revert back to how they were in 2009 and before, meaning all players out of contract with four or more years of service will be unrestricted.

While that has been expectee, clubs still tendered qualifying offers to potential restricted free agents under the system that was used in 2010, when players needed six years of service to be unrestricted.

How will it affect the Chicago Bears? For cornerback Corey Graham, safety Danieal Manning and linebacker Nick Roach, it means good news. Although the Bears tendered a qualifying RFA offer to all three, under these guidelines they will be unrestricted, allowing them to enter the open market.

It's bad news for the team as it reduces the chances all three will return. In fact, Graham is a good bet to leave as a UFA. Roach is probably the best bet of the three to return as the Bears need a starter on the strong side, where he made six starts last season.

Manning, who has five years of service, was one of the players caught up last year by the change in rules. It's the influx of players in situations similar to his that is going to make free agency a bonanza when it opens, probably sometime next month.

The class of free agents will be nearly double its usual size, creating a massive pool of players for teams that will have to fill out rosters and spend to meet a salary-cap floor. If free agency starts in mid-July with training camps scheduled to open on time, it will be a mad dash of activity.

QuoteSome big names will head to free agency. The unofficial list includes wide receivers Steve Breaston, Santonio Holmes, James Jones, Malcolm Floyd and Sidney Rice, running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and DeAngelo Williams, defensive ends Ray Edwards and Jacob Ford, tight ends Kevin Boss and Zach Miller, offensive linemen Willie Colon, Doug Free and Davin Joseph and cornerbacks Antonio Cromartie and Johnathan Joseph.

QuoteStrong hints indicate the Bears will pursue veteran punter Steve Weatherford in free agency. That's just one of the positions the team needs to address.

How was TIM SHAW omitted from the list of big name free agents?

Quote from: CT III on June 22, 2011, 09:50:05 AM

Quote from: morpheus on June 22, 2011, 09:39:12 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Biggsy with an update (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-freeagency-rules-could-prove-costly-to-bears-20110622,0,7671627.story) on the tentative CBA. Whither Danieal Manning? Any chance that Malcom Floyd or Davin Joseph are SKO's new free agency mancrushes? And was I the only person who wasn't aware that Maynard is apparently done as a Bear?

QuoteIncluded in the report is the assertion that the rules for free agency will revert back to how they were in 2009 and before, meaning all players out of contract with four or more years of service will be unrestricted.

While that has been expectee, clubs still tendered qualifying offers to potential restricted free agents under the system that was used in 2010, when players needed six years of service to be unrestricted.

How will it affect the Chicago Bears? For cornerback Corey Graham, safety Danieal Manning and linebacker Nick Roach, it means good news. Although the Bears tendered a qualifying RFA offer to all three, under these guidelines they will be unrestricted, allowing them to enter the open market.

It's bad news for the team as it reduces the chances all three will return. In fact, Graham is a good bet to leave as a UFA. Roach is probably the best bet of the three to return as the Bears need a starter on the strong side, where he made six starts last season.

Manning, who has five years of service, was one of the players caught up last year by the change in rules. It's the influx of players in situations similar to his that is going to make free agency a bonanza when it opens, probably sometime next month.

The class of free agents will be nearly double its usual size, creating a massive pool of players for teams that will have to fill out rosters and spend to meet a salary-cap floor. If free agency starts in mid-July with training camps scheduled to open on time, it will be a mad dash of activity.

QuoteSome big names will head to free agency. The unofficial list includes wide receivers Steve Breaston, Santonio Holmes, James Jones, Malcolm Floyd and Sidney Rice, running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and DeAngelo Williams, defensive ends Ray Edwards and Jacob Ford, tight ends Kevin Boss and Zach Miller, offensive linemen Willie Colon, Doug Free and Davin Joseph and cornerbacks Antonio Cromartie and Johnathan Joseph.

QuoteStrong hints indicate the Bears will pursue veteran punter Steve Weatherford in free agency. That's just one of the positions the team needs to address.

How was TIM SHAW omitted from the list of big name free agents?

TIM SHAW is sitting under a viaduct holding a sign that says "Will tackle you for food".

IT'S THE ONLY LIFE HE KNOWS!

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Biggsy with an update (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-freeagency-rules-could-prove-costly-to-bears-20110622,0,7671627.story) on the tentative CBA. Whither Danieal Manning? Any chance that Malcom Floyd or Davin Joseph are SKO's new free agency mancrushes? And was I the only person who wasn't aware that Maynard is apparently done as a Bear?

QuoteIncluded in the report is the assertion that the rules for free agency will revert back to how they were in 2009 and before, meaning all players out of contract with four or more years of service will be unrestricted.

While that has been expectee, clubs still tendered qualifying offers to potential restricted free agents under the system that was used in 2010, when players needed six years of service to be unrestricted.

How will it affect the Chicago Bears? For cornerback Corey Graham, safety Danieal Manning and linebacker Nick Roach, it means good news. Although the Bears tendered a qualifying RFA offer to all three, under these guidelines they will be unrestricted, allowing them to enter the open market.

It's bad news for the team as it reduces the chances all three will return. In fact, Graham is a good bet to leave as a UFA. Roach is probably the best bet of the three to return as the Bears need a starter on the strong side, where he made six starts last season.

Manning, who has five years of service, was one of the players caught up last year by the change in rules. It's the influx of players in situations similar to his that is going to make free agency a bonanza when it opens, probably sometime next month.

The class of free agents will be nearly double its usual size, creating a massive pool of players for teams that will have to fill out rosters and spend to meet a salary-cap floor. If free agency starts in mid-July with training camps scheduled to open on time, it will be a mad dash of activity.

QuoteSome big names will head to free agency. The unofficial list includes wide receivers Steve Breaston, Santonio Holmes, James Jones, Malcolm Floyd and Sidney Rice, running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and DeAngelo Williams, defensive ends Ray Edwards and Jacob Ford, tight ends Kevin Boss and Zach Miller, offensive linemen Willie Colon, Doug Free and Davin Joseph and cornerbacks Antonio Cromartie and Johnathan Joseph.

QuoteStrong hints indicate the Bears will pursue veteran punter Steve Weatherford in free agency. That's just one of the positions the team needs to address.

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 09:58:23 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Biggsy with an update (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-freeagency-rules-could-prove-costly-to-bears-20110622,0,7671627.story) on the tentative CBA. Whither Danieal Manning? Any chance that Malcom Floyd or Davin Joseph are SKO's new free agency mancrushes? And was I the only person who wasn't aware that Maynard is apparently done as a Bear?

QuoteIncluded in the report is the assertion that the rules for free agency will revert back to how they were in 2009 and before, meaning all players out of contract with four or more years of service will be unrestricted.

While that has been expectee, clubs still tendered qualifying offers to potential restricted free agents under the system that was used in 2010, when players needed six years of service to be unrestricted.

How will it affect the Chicago Bears? For cornerback Corey Graham, safety Danieal Manning and linebacker Nick Roach, it means good news. Although the Bears tendered a qualifying RFA offer to all three, under these guidelines they will be unrestricted, allowing them to enter the open market.

It's bad news for the team as it reduces the chances all three will return. In fact, Graham is a good bet to leave as a UFA. Roach is probably the best bet of the three to return as the Bears need a starter on the strong side, where he made six starts last season.

Manning, who has five years of service, was one of the players caught up last year by the change in rules. It's the influx of players in situations similar to his that is going to make free agency a bonanza when it opens, probably sometime next month.

The class of free agents will be nearly double its usual size, creating a massive pool of players for teams that will have to fill out rosters and spend to meet a salary-cap floor. If free agency starts in mid-July with training camps scheduled to open on time, it will be a mad dash of activity.

QuoteSome big names will head to free agency. The unofficial list includes wide receivers Steve Breaston, Santonio Holmes, James Jones, Malcolm Floyd and Sidney Rice, running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and DeAngelo Williams, defensive ends Ray Edwards and Jacob Ford, tight ends Kevin Boss and Zach Miller, offensive linemen Willie Colon, Doug Free and Davin Joseph and cornerbacks Antonio Cromartie and Johnathan Joseph.

QuoteStrong hints indicate the Bears will pursue veteran punter Steve Weatherford in free agency. That's just one of the positions the team needs to address.

I thought they'd bring back Maynard and maybe have him battle a kid like that McGee guy they've had hanging around the last couple camps, but I knew they weren't satisfied with his performance last year which was his worst year in Chicago. His average keeps going down and he's 37. Weatherford's a good replacement.

My free agency man crush is Braylon Edwards paired with whichever guard Atlanta doesn't re-sign, but I'd settle for a guy like Floyd or Sidney Rice or whomever and then someone like Davin Joseph. Provided they come out of this free agency period with at least one starting guard and a wide receiver that isn't a muppet (but also isn't over 30, natch) I'll be happy.

A lot of this stuff could be found on my blog, if I had one.

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:03:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 09:58:23 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Biggsy with an update (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-freeagency-rules-could-prove-costly-to-bears-20110622,0,7671627.story) on the tentative CBA. Whither Danieal Manning? Any chance that Malcom Floyd or Davin Joseph are SKO's new free agency mancrushes? And was I the only person who wasn't aware that Maynard is apparently done as a Bear?

QuoteIncluded in the report is the assertion that the rules for free agency will revert back to how they were in 2009 and before, meaning all players out of contract with four or more years of service will be unrestricted.

While that has been expectee, clubs still tendered qualifying offers to potential restricted free agents under the system that was used in 2010, when players needed six years of service to be unrestricted.

How will it affect the Chicago Bears? For cornerback Corey Graham, safety Danieal Manning and linebacker Nick Roach, it means good news. Although the Bears tendered a qualifying RFA offer to all three, under these guidelines they will be unrestricted, allowing them to enter the open market.

It's bad news for the team as it reduces the chances all three will return. In fact, Graham is a good bet to leave as a UFA. Roach is probably the best bet of the three to return as the Bears need a starter on the strong side, where he made six starts last season.

Manning, who has five years of service, was one of the players caught up last year by the change in rules. It's the influx of players in situations similar to his that is going to make free agency a bonanza when it opens, probably sometime next month.

The class of free agents will be nearly double its usual size, creating a massive pool of players for teams that will have to fill out rosters and spend to meet a salary-cap floor. If free agency starts in mid-July with training camps scheduled to open on time, it will be a mad dash of activity.

QuoteSome big names will head to free agency. The unofficial list includes wide receivers Steve Breaston, Santonio Holmes, James Jones, Malcolm Floyd and Sidney Rice, running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and DeAngelo Williams, defensive ends Ray Edwards and Jacob Ford, tight ends Kevin Boss and Zach Miller, offensive linemen Willie Colon, Doug Free and Davin Joseph and cornerbacks Antonio Cromartie and Johnathan Joseph.

QuoteStrong hints indicate the Bears will pursue veteran punter Steve Weatherford in free agency. That's just one of the positions the team needs to address.

I thought they'd bring back Maynard and maybe have him battle a kid like that McGee guy they've had hanging around the last couple camps, but I knew they weren't satisfied with his performance last year which was his worst year in Chicago. His average keeps going down and he's 37. Weatherford's a good replacement.

My free agency man crush is Braylon Edwards paired with whichever guard Atlanta doesn't re-sign, but I'd settle for a guy like Floyd or Sidney Rice or whomever and then someone like Davin Joseph. Provided they come out of this free agency period with at least one starting guard and a wide receiver that isn't a muppet (but also isn't over 30, natch) I'll be happy.

A lot of this stuff could be found on my blog, if I had one.

You have a crush on Braylon Edwards? Good news - chances are he'd fancy you, too.

(He likes penis)

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:06:09 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:03:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 09:58:23 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Biggsy with an update (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-freeagency-rules-could-prove-costly-to-bears-20110622,0,7671627.story) on the tentative CBA. Whither Danieal Manning? Any chance that Malcom Floyd or Davin Joseph are SKO's new free agency mancrushes? And was I the only person who wasn't aware that Maynard is apparently done as a Bear?

QuoteIncluded in the report is the assertion that the rules for free agency will revert back to how they were in 2009 and before, meaning all players out of contract with four or more years of service will be unrestricted.

While that has been expectee, clubs still tendered qualifying offers to potential restricted free agents under the system that was used in 2010, when players needed six years of service to be unrestricted.

How will it affect the Chicago Bears? For cornerback Corey Graham, safety Danieal Manning and linebacker Nick Roach, it means good news. Although the Bears tendered a qualifying RFA offer to all three, under these guidelines they will be unrestricted, allowing them to enter the open market.

It's bad news for the team as it reduces the chances all three will return. In fact, Graham is a good bet to leave as a UFA. Roach is probably the best bet of the three to return as the Bears need a starter on the strong side, where he made six starts last season.

Manning, who has five years of service, was one of the players caught up last year by the change in rules. It's the influx of players in situations similar to his that is going to make free agency a bonanza when it opens, probably sometime next month.

The class of free agents will be nearly double its usual size, creating a massive pool of players for teams that will have to fill out rosters and spend to meet a salary-cap floor. If free agency starts in mid-July with training camps scheduled to open on time, it will be a mad dash of activity.

QuoteSome big names will head to free agency. The unofficial list includes wide receivers Steve Breaston, Santonio Holmes, James Jones, Malcolm Floyd and Sidney Rice, running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and DeAngelo Williams, defensive ends Ray Edwards and Jacob Ford, tight ends Kevin Boss and Zach Miller, offensive linemen Willie Colon, Doug Free and Davin Joseph and cornerbacks Antonio Cromartie and Johnathan Joseph.

QuoteStrong hints indicate the Bears will pursue veteran punter Steve Weatherford in free agency. That's just one of the positions the team needs to address.

I thought they'd bring back Maynard and maybe have him battle a kid like that McGee guy they've had hanging around the last couple camps, but I knew they weren't satisfied with his performance last year which was his worst year in Chicago. His average keeps going down and he's 37. Weatherford's a good replacement.

My free agency man crush is Braylon Edwards paired with whichever guard Atlanta doesn't re-sign, but I'd settle for a guy like Floyd or Sidney Rice or whomever and then someone like Davin Joseph. Provided they come out of this free agency period with at least one starting guard and a wide receiver that isn't a muppet (but also isn't over 30, natch) I'll be happy.

A lot of this stuff could be found on my blog, if I had one.

You have a crush on Braylon Edwards? Good news - chances are he'd fancy you, too.

(He likes penis)

Is that insider information from the other Slaky? Either way, the guy might be fairly reasonably priced in a flooded market and has produced well despite catching passes from a parade of shitty quarterbacks. He cut down on the drops with the Jets as well. He can smoke all the pole he wants if he's a wide receiver that can do something in the end zone besides gesturing for a flag while the DB leaps over the top of him and intercepts the ball.

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:06:09 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:03:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 09:58:23 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 09:36:30 AM
Biggsy with an update (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-freeagency-rules-could-prove-costly-to-bears-20110622,0,7671627.story) on the tentative CBA. Whither Danieal Manning? Any chance that Malcom Floyd or Davin Joseph are SKO's new free agency mancrushes? And was I the only person who wasn't aware that Maynard is apparently done as a Bear?

QuoteIncluded in the report is the assertion that the rules for free agency will revert back to how they were in 2009 and before, meaning all players out of contract with four or more years of service will be unrestricted.

While that has been expectee, clubs still tendered qualifying offers to potential restricted free agents under the system that was used in 2010, when players needed six years of service to be unrestricted.

How will it affect the Chicago Bears? For cornerback Corey Graham, safety Danieal Manning and linebacker Nick Roach, it means good news. Although the Bears tendered a qualifying RFA offer to all three, under these guidelines they will be unrestricted, allowing them to enter the open market.

It's bad news for the team as it reduces the chances all three will return. In fact, Graham is a good bet to leave as a UFA. Roach is probably the best bet of the three to return as the Bears need a starter on the strong side, where he made six starts last season.

Manning, who has five years of service, was one of the players caught up last year by the change in rules. It's the influx of players in situations similar to his that is going to make free agency a bonanza when it opens, probably sometime next month.

The class of free agents will be nearly double its usual size, creating a massive pool of players for teams that will have to fill out rosters and spend to meet a salary-cap floor. If free agency starts in mid-July with training camps scheduled to open on time, it will be a mad dash of activity.

QuoteSome big names will head to free agency. The unofficial list includes wide receivers Steve Breaston, Santonio Holmes, James Jones, Malcolm Floyd and Sidney Rice, running backs Ahmad Bradshaw and DeAngelo Williams, defensive ends Ray Edwards and Jacob Ford, tight ends Kevin Boss and Zach Miller, offensive linemen Willie Colon, Doug Free and Davin Joseph and cornerbacks Antonio Cromartie and Johnathan Joseph.

QuoteStrong hints indicate the Bears will pursue veteran punter Steve Weatherford in free agency. That's just one of the positions the team needs to address.

I thought they'd bring back Maynard and maybe have him battle a kid like that McGee guy they've had hanging around the last couple camps, but I knew they weren't satisfied with his performance last year which was his worst year in Chicago. His average keeps going down and he's 37. Weatherford's a good replacement.

My free agency man crush is Braylon Edwards paired with whichever guard Atlanta doesn't re-sign, but I'd settle for a guy like Floyd or Sidney Rice or whomever and then someone like Davin Joseph. Provided they come out of this free agency period with at least one starting guard and a wide receiver that isn't a muppet (but also isn't over 30, natch) I'll be happy.

A lot of this stuff could be found on my blog, if I had one.

You have a crush on Braylon Edwards? Good news - chances are he'd fancy you, too.

(He likes penis)

Is that insider information from the other Slaky? Either way, the guy might be fairly reasonably priced in a flooded market and has produced well despite catching passes from a parade of shitty quarterbacks. He cut down on the drops with the Jets as well. He can smoke all the pole he wants if he's a wide receiver that can do something in the end zone besides gesturing for a flag while the DB leaps over the top of him and intercepts the ball.

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
That was the worst DPD ever.

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
That was the worst DPD ever.

Sorry. I didn't mean to cover up the bombshell that is Braylon Edwards: Ghey Male Homosecksual.

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 10:21:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
That was the worst DPD ever.

Sorry. I didn't mean to cover up the bombshell that is Braylon Edwards: Ghey Male Homosecksual.

They should call him Blowin Dudeswads.

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
I have faith that the Bears are sick of their offensive line worries and really want to fix it so that Cutler can become as great as they (to their credit) believe he is. Want to and know how are different things, I know. But I think there's a good chance they'll over- compensate there in FA and the receiving corps will remain highly suspect for another year. I'm more worried about the secondary than the receivers anyhow.

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:27:53 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
I have faith that the Bears are sick of their offensive line worries and really want to fix it so that Cutler can become as great as they (to their credit) believe he is. Want to and know how are different things, I know. But I think there's a good chance they'll over- compensate there in FA and the receiving corps will remain highly suspect for another year. I'm more worried about the secondary than the receivers anyhow.

If they fix that offensive line than they'll survive with the wideouts they have, especially if they keep Hester in the slot like they did toward the end last year and keep the BBE on the outside opposite of Knox.

The problem with the line is that it sounds like Roberto Garza is just penciled in to start next year, which is bad news since he's nowhere near the player he was a few years ago. They need at least one starting guard in free agency and then you let Garza, Williams, Lance Louis, Edwin Williams, and Johan Asiata fight it out for the other spot while Gheyb locks down the blind side and Webb improves in year two over on the right. Either way, if they can find a way to drop the sack total down somewhere south of 35ish Erik Kramer's 1995 season will disappear from the record books. It's gonna hai.

Quote from: BH on June 22, 2011, 10:24:54 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 10:21:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
That was the worst DPD ever.

Sorry. I didn't mean to cover up the bombshell that is Braylon Edwards: Ghey Male Homosecksual.

They should call him Blowin Dudeswads.

Garblownzo Dudesbeanzs.

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:31:30 AM

Quote from: BH on June 22, 2011, 10:24:54 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 10:21:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
That was the worst DPD ever.

Sorry. I didn't mean to cover up the bombshell that is Braylon Edwards: Ghey Male Homosecksual.

They should call him Blowin Dudeswads.

Garblownzo Dudesbeanzs.

If you guys keep this up we're never going to realize the dream of an all-gay NFL.

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:31:30 AM

Quote from: BH on June 22, 2011, 10:24:54 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 10:21:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
That was the worst DPD ever.

Sorry. I didn't mean to cover up the bombshell that is Braylon Edwards: Ghey Male Homosecksual.

They should call him Blowin Dudeswads.

Garblownzo Dudesbeanzs.

If you guys keep this up we're never going to realize the dream of an all-gay NFL.

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:31:30 AM

Quote from: BH on June 22, 2011, 10:24:54 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 10:21:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
That was the worst DPD ever.

Sorry. I didn't mean to cover up the bombshell that is Braylon Edwards: Ghey Male Homosecksual.

They should call him Blowin Dudeswads.

Garblownzo Dudesbeanzs.

If you guys keep this up we're never going to realize the dream of an all-gay NFL.

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 10:34:17 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:31:30 AM

Quote from: BH on June 22, 2011, 10:24:54 AM

Quote from: R-V on June 22, 2011, 10:21:21 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:15:51 AM

Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
That was the worst DPD ever.

Sorry. I didn't mean to cover up the bombshell that is Braylon Edwards: Ghey Male Homosecksual.

They should call him Blowin Dudeswads.

Garblownzo Dudesbeanzs.

If you guys keep this up we're never going to realize the dream of an all-gay NFL.

I can't believe anyone on the '07 and '08 Browns would waste valuable time making fun of Blowin when there were uberdeutsches like Kellen Winslow and Brady Quinn just begging to be mocked viciously.

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:31:00 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:27:53 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
I have faith that the Bears are sick of their offensive line worries and really want to fix it so that Cutler can become as great as they (to their credit) believe he is. Want to and know how are different things, I know. But I think there's a good chance they'll over- compensate there in FA and the receiving corps will remain highly suspect for another year. I'm more worried about the secondary than the receivers anyhow.

If they fix that offensive line than they'll survive with the wideouts they have, especially if they keep Hester in the slot like they did toward the end last year and keep the BBE on the outside opposite of Knox.

The problem with the line is that it sounds like Roberto Garza is just penciled in to start next year, which is bad news since he's nowhere near the player he was a few years ago. They need at least one starting guard in free agency and then you let Garza, Williams, Lance Louis, Edwin Williams, and Johan Asiata fight it out for the other spot while Gheyb locks down the blind side and Webb improves in year two over on the right. Either way, if they can find a way to drop the sack total down somewhere south of 35ish Erik Kramer's 1995 season will disappear from the record books. It's gonna hai.

All of THI.

I think they know they have to replace Garza. My worry is that they'll overpay for some hack who can't play and we're completely screwed.

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:41:13 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:31:00 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:27:53 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
I have faith that the Bears are sick of their offensive line worries and really want to fix it so that Cutler can become as great as they (to their credit) believe he is. Want to and know how are different things, I know. But I think there's a good chance they'll over- compensate there in FA and the receiving corps will remain highly suspect for another year. I'm more worried about the secondary than the receivers anyhow.

If they fix that offensive line than they'll survive with the wideouts they have, especially if they keep Hester in the slot like they did toward the end last year and keep the BBE on the outside opposite of Knox.

The problem with the line is that it sounds like Roberto Garza is just penciled in to start next year, which is bad news since he's nowhere near the player he was a few years ago. They need at least one starting guard in free agency and then you let Garza, Williams, Lance Louis, Edwin Williams, and Johan Asiata fight it out for the other spot while Gheyb locks down the blind side and Webb improves in year two over on the right. Either way, if they can find a way to drop the sack total down somewhere south of 35ish Erik Kramer's 1995 season will disappear from the record books. It's gonna hai.

All of THI.

I think they know they have to replace Garza. My worry is that they'll overpay for some hack who can't play and we're completely screwed.

There's enough quality, proven guys south of 30 in this class that they can probably find one that doesn't suck. If Davin Joseph (27), Justin Blalock (27), Carl Nicks (26), Harvey Dahl (30), Chris Chester (28), David Baas (29) and Deuce Lutui (28) are out there they have to get at least one reasonably young guy that can start and won't be a disaster. Angelo's record on free agent offensive linemen has been pretty mixed, but the last time the line was this bad he managed to add John Tait, Ruben Brown, and Fred Miller in two consecutive offseasons and those guys all gave 3-4 good years and they were all older than that group.

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:54:02 AM
I wonder if Lovie, Martz and Tice sit around talking about the Bears' o-line like we talk about Matt Murton, Todd Walker, Juan Pierre and Will Ohman. Like how the FUCK ... did... GOD DAMMIT!!!

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:51:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:41:13 AM

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Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
I have faith that the Bears are sick of their offensive line worries and really want to fix it so that Cutler can become as great as they (to their credit) believe he is. Want to and know how are different things, I know. But I think there's a good chance they'll over- compensate there in FA and the receiving corps will remain highly suspect for another year. I'm more worried about the secondary than the receivers anyhow.

If they fix that offensive line than they'll survive with the wideouts they have, especially if they keep Hester in the slot like they did toward the end last year and keep the BBE on the outside opposite of Knox.

The problem with the line is that it sounds like Roberto Garza is just penciled in to start next year, which is bad news since he's nowhere near the player he was a few years ago. They need at least one starting guard in free agency and then you let Garza, Williams, Lance Louis, Edwin Williams, and Johan Asiata fight it out for the other spot while Gheyb locks down the blind side and Webb improves in year two over on the right. Either way, if they can find a way to drop the sack total down somewhere south of 35ish Erik Kramer's 1995 season will disappear from the record books. It's gonna hai.

All of THI.

I think they know they have to replace Garza. My worry is that they'll overpay for some hack who can't play and we're completely screwed.

There's enough quality, proven guys south of 30 in this class that they can probably find one that doesn't suck. If Davin Joseph (27), Justin Blalock (27), Carl Nicks (26), Harvey Dahl (30), Chris Chester (28), David Baas (29) and Deuce Lutui (28) are out there they have to get at least one reasonably young guy that can start and won't be a disaster. Angelo's record on free agent offensive linemen has been pretty mixed, but the last time the line was this bad he managed to add John Tait, Ruben Brown, and Fred Miller in two consecutive offseasons and those guys all gave 3-4 good years and they were all older than that group.

Yay!

Now, let's fix the secondary before it breaks.

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:54:49 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:51:09 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:41:13 AM

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Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
I have faith that the Bears are sick of their offensive line worries and really want to fix it so that Cutler can become as great as they (to their credit) believe he is. Want to and know how are different things, I know. But I think there's a good chance they'll over- compensate there in FA and the receiving corps will remain highly suspect for another year. I'm more worried about the secondary than the receivers anyhow.

If they fix that offensive line than they'll survive with the wideouts they have, especially if they keep Hester in the slot like they did toward the end last year and keep the BBE on the outside opposite of Knox.

The problem with the line is that it sounds like Roberto Garza is just penciled in to start next year, which is bad news since he's nowhere near the player he was a few years ago. They need at least one starting guard in free agency and then you let Garza, Williams, Lance Louis, Edwin Williams, and Johan Asiata fight it out for the other spot while Gheyb locks down the blind side and Webb improves in year two over on the right. Either way, if they can find a way to drop the sack total down somewhere south of 35ish Erik Kramer's 1995 season will disappear from the record books. It's gonna hai.

All of THI.

I think they know they have to replace Garza. My worry is that they'll overpay for some hack who can't play and we're completely screwed.

There's enough quality, proven guys south of 30 in this class that they can probably find one that doesn't suck. If Davin Joseph (27), Justin Blalock (27), Carl Nicks (26), Harvey Dahl (30), Chris Chester (28), David Baas (29) and Deuce Lutui (28) are out there they have to get at least one reasonably young guy that can start and won't be a disaster. Angelo's record on free agent offensive linemen has been pretty mixed, but the last time the line was this bad he managed to add John Tait, Ruben Brown, and Fred Miller in two consecutive offseasons and those guys all gave 3-4 good years and they were all older than that group.

Yay!

Now, let's fix the secondary before it breaks.

The only move they'll make in the secondary is bringing back Danieal Manning if they can afford him. I can't imagine them doing more than finding one mediocre guy to throw into the competition between Jennings and Zack Bowman, who'll get one more chance to prove he can do something with the talent he has.

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Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:54:49 AM

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Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:27:53 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
I have faith that the Bears are sick of their offensive line worries and really want to fix it so that Cutler can become as great as they (to their credit) believe he is. Want to and know how are different things, I know. But I think there's a good chance they'll over- compensate there in FA and the receiving corps will remain highly suspect for another year. I'm more worried about the secondary than the receivers anyhow.

If they fix that offensive line than they'll survive with the wideouts they have, especially if they keep Hester in the slot like they did toward the end last year and keep the BBE on the outside opposite of Knox.

The problem with the line is that it sounds like Roberto Garza is just penciled in to start next year, which is bad news since he's nowhere near the player he was a few years ago. They need at least one starting guard in free agency and then you let Garza, Williams, Lance Louis, Edwin Williams, and Johan Asiata fight it out for the other spot while Gheyb locks down the blind side and Webb improves in year two over on the right. Either way, if they can find a way to drop the sack total down somewhere south of 35ish Erik Kramer's 1995 season will disappear from the record books. It's gonna hai.

All of THI.

I think they know they have to replace Garza. My worry is that they'll overpay for some hack who can't play and we're completely screwed.

There's enough quality, proven guys south of 30 in this class that they can probably find one that doesn't suck. If Davin Joseph (27), Justin Blalock (27), Carl Nicks (26), Harvey Dahl (30), Chris Chester (28), David Baas (29) and Deuce Lutui (28) are out there they have to get at least one reasonably young guy that can start and won't be a disaster. Angelo's record on free agent offensive linemen has been pretty mixed, but the last time the line was this bad he managed to add John Tait, Ruben Brown, and Fred Miller in two consecutive offseasons and those guys all gave 3-4 good years and they were all older than that group.

Yay!

Now, let's fix the secondary before it breaks.

The only move they'll make in the secondary is bringing back Danieal Manning if they can afford him. I can't imagine them doing more than finding one mediocre guy to throw into the competition between Jennings and Zack Bowman, who'll get one more chance to prove he can do something with the talent he has.

I guess they drafted a Safety too. But BC said he was slow. So fuck that.

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 12:13:53 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 11:25:52 AM

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Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:41:13 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:31:00 AM

Quote from: SKO on June 22, 2011, 10:27:53 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2011, 10:17:45 AM
I have faith that the Bears are sick of their offensive line worries and really want to fix it so that Cutler can become as great as they (to their credit) believe he is. Want to and know how are different things, I know. But I think there's a good chance they'll over- compensate there in FA and the receiving corps will remain highly suspect for another year. I'm more worried about the secondary than the receivers anyhow.

If they fix that offensive line than they'll survive with the wideouts they have, especially if they keep Hester in the slot like they did toward the end last year and keep the BBE on the outside opposite of Knox.

The problem with the line is that it sounds like Roberto Garza is just penciled in to start next year, which is bad news since he's nowhere near the player he was a few years ago. They need at least one starting guard in free agency and then you let Garza, Williams, Lance Louis, Edwin Williams, and Johan Asiata fight it out for the other spot while Gheyb locks down the blind side and Webb improves in year two over on the right. Either way, if they can find a way to drop the sack total down somewhere south of 35ish Erik Kramer's 1995 season will disappear from the record books. It's gonna hai.

All of THI.

I think they know they have to replace Garza. My worry is that they'll overpay for some hack who can't play and we're completely screwed.

There's enough quality, proven guys south of 30 in this class that they can probably find one that doesn't suck. If Davin Joseph (27), Justin Blalock (27), Carl Nicks (26), Harvey Dahl (30), Chris Chester (28), David Baas (29) and Deuce Lutui (28) are out there they have to get at least one reasonably young guy that can start and won't be a disaster. Angelo's record on free agent offensive linemen has been pretty mixed, but the last time the line was this bad he managed to add John Tait, Ruben Brown, and Fred Miller in two consecutive offseasons and those guys all gave 3-4 good years and they were all older than that group.

Yay!

Now, let's fix the secondary before it breaks.

The only move they'll make in the secondary is bringing back Danieal Manning if they can afford him. I can't imagine them doing more than finding one mediocre guy to throw into the competition between Jennings and Zack Bowman, who'll get one more chance to prove he can do something with the talent he has.

I guess they drafted a Safety too. But BC said he was slow. So fuck that.

He's a converted corner, so too slow for a corner but good speed for a safety. Biggest problem is he's raw and new to the position, so in about 4-5 years he should have a quiet All-Pro caliber season and then leave in free agency like Danieal.

Also, the old Tampa Two strategy of "who needs corners if you have a pass rush?" worked pretty damn well last year, and I expect it to be even better with Stephen Paea drawing some of the attention away from Peppers and Izzy, so I'm not up in a cold sweat worrying about the secondary like I was the last three offseasons.

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Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2011, 10:12:15 AM
That was the worst DPD ever.

Sorry. I didn't mean to cover up the bombshell that is Braylon Edwards: Ghey Male Homosecksual.

Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Well, Mike Tice says the starting five  (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bears-set-their-offensive-line.html) on the line are Webb, Williams, Garza, Louis, and Carimi L to R. I'll hold my judgement on that till the regular season, but for the most part WHAT THE FUCK? I suppose Garza at center may not be a terrible idea, since he's big and doesn't suck and knows the line calls and by the reports I've seen has gotten over a rough start and is playing pretty well at center now, but this plan includes starting Chris Williams and, I believe, leaves Frank Omiyale on the roster, so not good man, not good.

Then people are apparently pissed because Roy Williams is battling Johnny Knox for the starting X position, not Devin Hester over at Z. I don't think Johnny Knox sucks as much as Apex thinks he does, but I also don't think he's that much, if at all, better than Hester necessarily. Either way everyone's going to get a bunch of targets, but I don't think that muppets worth this much hand-wringing. It'll all be a moot point once Sanzebacher starts torching secondaries anyway.

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 03:27:02 PM

Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Well, Mike Tice says the starting five  (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bears-set-their-offensive-line.html) on the line are Webb, Williams, Garza, Louis, and Carimi L to R. I'll hold my judgement on that till the regular season, but for the most part WHAT THE FUCK? I suppose Garza at center may not be a terrible idea, since he's big and doesn't suck and knows the line calls and by the reports I've seen has gotten over a rough start and is playing pretty well at center now, but this plan includes starting Chris Williams and, I believe, leaves Frank Omiyale on the roster, so not good man, not good.

Then people are apparently pissed because Roy Williams is battling Johnny Knox for the starting X position, not Devin Hester over at Z. I don't think Johnny Knox sucks as much as Apex thinks he does, but I also don't think he's that much, if at all, better than Hester necessarily. Either way everyone's going to get a bunch of targets, but I don't think that muppets worth this much hand-wringing. It'll all be a moot point once Sanzebacher starts torching secondaries anyway.

Wait...why did they bother getting that guy from Seattke then?

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 03:27:02 PM

Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Well, Mike Tice says the starting five  (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bears-set-their-offensive-line.html) on the line are Webb, Williams, Garza, Louis, and Carimi L to R. I'll hold my judgement on that till the regular season, but for the most part WHAT THE FUCK? I suppose Garza at center may not be a terrible idea, since he's big and doesn't suck and knows the line calls and by the reports I've seen has gotten over a rough start and is playing pretty well at center now, but this plan includes starting Chris Williams and, I believe, leaves Frank Omiyale on the roster, so not good man, not good.

Then people are apparently pissed because Roy Williams is battling Johnny Knox for the starting X position, not Devin Hester over at Z. I don't think Johnny Knox sucks as much as Apex thinks he does, but I also don't think he's that much, if at all, better than Hester necessarily. Either way everyone's going to get a bunch of targets, but I don't think that muppets worth this much hand-wringing. It'll all be a moot point once Sanzebacher starts torching secondaries anyway.

Wait...why did they bother getting that guy from Seattke then?

Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 03:28:45 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 03:27:02 PM

Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Well, Mike Tice says the starting five  (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bears-set-their-offensive-line.html) on the line are Webb, Williams, Garza, Louis, and Carimi L to R. I'll hold my judgement on that till the regular season, but for the most part WHAT THE FUCK? I suppose Garza at center may not be a terrible idea, since he's big and doesn't suck and knows the line calls and by the reports I've seen has gotten over a rough start and is playing pretty well at center now, but this plan includes starting Chris Williams and, I believe, leaves Frank Omiyale on the roster, so not good man, not good.

Then people are apparently pissed because Roy Williams is battling Johnny Knox for the starting X position, not Devin Hester over at Z. I don't think Johnny Knox sucks as much as Apex thinks he does, but I also don't think he's that much, if at all, better than Hester necessarily. Either way everyone's going to get a bunch of targets, but I don't think that muppets worth this much hand-wringing. It'll all be a moot point once Sanzebacher starts torching secondaries anyway.

Wait...why did they bother getting that guy from Seattke then?

I think the bears can change lineups later if they want.

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 04:56:37 PM

Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 03:28:45 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 03:27:02 PM

Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Well, Mike Tice says the starting five  (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bears-set-their-offensive-line.html) on the line are Webb, Williams, Garza, Louis, and Carimi L to R. I'll hold my judgement on that till the regular season, but for the most part WHAT THE FUCK? I suppose Garza at center may not be a terrible idea, since he's big and doesn't suck and knows the line calls and by the reports I've seen has gotten over a rough start and is playing pretty well at center now, but this plan includes starting Chris Williams and, I believe, leaves Frank Omiyale on the roster, so not good man, not good.

Then people are apparently pissed because Roy Williams is battling Johnny Knox for the starting X position, not Devin Hester over at Z. I don't think Johnny Knox sucks as much as Apex thinks he does, but I also don't think he's that much, if at all, better than Hester necessarily. Either way everyone's going to get a bunch of targets, but I don't think that muppets worth this much hand-wringing. It'll all be a moot point once Sanzebacher starts torching secondaries anyway.

Wait...why did they bother getting that guy from Seattke then?

I think the bears can change lineups later if they want.

$6 million for a back-up center seems like an awesome use of money for a team that has significant problems with the starting offensive line.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 08, 2011, 05:35:31 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 04:56:37 PM

Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 03:28:45 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 03:27:02 PM

Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Well, Mike Tice says the starting five  (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bears-set-their-offensive-line.html) on the line are Webb, Williams, Garza, Louis, and Carimi L to R. I'll hold my judgement on that till the regular season, but for the most part WHAT THE FUCK? I suppose Garza at center may not be a terrible idea, since he's big and doesn't suck and knows the line calls and by the reports I've seen has gotten over a rough start and is playing pretty well at center now, but this plan includes starting Chris Williams and, I believe, leaves Frank Omiyale on the roster, so not good man, not good.

Then people are apparently pissed because Roy Williams is battling Johnny Knox for the starting X position, not Devin Hester over at Z. I don't think Johnny Knox sucks as much as Apex thinks he does, but I also don't think he's that much, if at all, better than Hester necessarily. Either way everyone's going to get a bunch of targets, but I don't think that muppets worth this much hand-wringing. It'll all be a moot point once Sanzebacher starts torching secondaries anyway.

Wait...why did they bother getting that guy from Seattke then?

I think the bears can change lineups later if they want.

$6 million for a back-up center seems like an awesome use of money for a team that has significant problems with the starting offensive line.

I was under the impression that they intend to make Spencer the starting center once he learns the offense.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 08, 2011, 05:58:36 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 08, 2011, 05:35:31 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 04:56:37 PM

Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 03:28:45 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 03:27:02 PM

Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Well, Mike Tice says the starting five  (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bears-set-their-offensive-line.html) on the line are Webb, Williams, Garza, Louis, and Carimi L to R. I'll hold my judgement on that till the regular season, but for the most part WHAT THE FUCK? I suppose Garza at center may not be a terrible idea, since he's big and doesn't suck and knows the line calls and by the reports I've seen has gotten over a rough start and is playing pretty well at center now, but this plan includes starting Chris Williams and, I believe, leaves Frank Omiyale on the roster, so not good man, not good.

Then people are apparently pissed because Roy Williams is battling Johnny Knox for the starting X position, not Devin Hester over at Z. I don't think Johnny Knox sucks as much as Apex thinks he does, but I also don't think he's that much, if at all, better than Hester necessarily. Either way everyone's going to get a bunch of targets, but I don't think that muppets worth this much hand-wringing. It'll all be a moot point once Sanzebacher starts torching secondaries anyway.

Wait...why did they bother getting that guy from Seattke then?

I think the bears can change lineups later if they want.

$6 million for a back-up center seems like an awesome use of money for a team that has significant problems with the starting offensive line.

I was under the impression that they intend to make Spencer the starting center once he learns the offense.

I too was under that same impression.  It is a complex offense.

Quote from: Slaky on August 08, 2011, 06:22:01 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 08, 2011, 05:58:36 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 08, 2011, 05:35:31 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 04:56:37 PM

Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 03:28:45 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 08, 2011, 03:27:02 PM

Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2011, 09:29:40 AM
Well, Mike Tice says the starting five  (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Bears-set-their-offensive-line.html) on the line are Webb, Williams, Garza, Louis, and Carimi L to R. I'll hold my judgement on that till the regular season, but for the most part WHAT THE FUCK? I suppose Garza at center may not be a terrible idea, since he's big and doesn't suck and knows the line calls and by the reports I've seen has gotten over a rough start and is playing pretty well at center now, but this plan includes starting Chris Williams and, I believe, leaves Frank Omiyale on the roster, so not good man, not good.

Then people are apparently pissed because Roy Williams is battling Johnny Knox for the starting X position, not Devin Hester over at Z. I don't think Johnny Knox sucks as much as Apex thinks he does, but I also don't think he's that much, if at all, better than Hester necessarily. Either way everyone's going to get a bunch of targets, but I don't think that muppets worth this much hand-wringing. It'll all be a moot point once Sanzebacher starts torching secondaries anyway.

Wait...why did they bother getting that guy from Seattke then?

I think the bears can change lineups later if they want.

$6 million for a back-up center seems like an awesome use of money for a team that has significant problems with the starting offensive line.

I was under the impression that they intend to make Spencer the starting center once he learns the offense.

I too was under that same impression.  It is a complex offense.

I'd also be a retard to start frothing at the mouth over a proclamation made with four full weeks before the first meaningful game.

Quote from: BH on August 10, 2011, 01:18:14 PM
Knox is a 2nd string WR behind Roy Williams. Behind Williams, Hester and Earl Bennett? Go ahead, freak out Pen.

Quote from: PenPho on August 10, 2011, 01:21:18 PM

Quote from: BH on August 10, 2011, 01:18:14 PM
Knox is a 2nd string WR behind Roy Williams. Behind Williams, Hester and Earl Bennett? Go ahead, freak out Pen.

Freak out about a team I don't root for?

You know that SKO and I are different people, right?

Quote from: BH on August 10, 2011, 01:28:44 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 10, 2011, 01:21:18 PM

Quote from: BH on August 10, 2011, 01:18:14 PM
Knox is a 2nd string WR behind Roy Williams. Behind Williams, Hester and Earl Bennett? Go ahead, freak out Pen.

Freak out about a team I don't root for?

You know that SKO and I are different people, right?

I figured since you were so butthurt over Spencer not starting, you'd have some tears about this news.

Quote from: PenPho on August 10, 2011, 01:29:13 PM

Quote from: BH on August 10, 2011, 01:28:44 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 10, 2011, 01:21:18 PM

Quote from: BH on August 10, 2011, 01:18:14 PM
Knox is a 2nd string WR behind Roy Williams. Behind Williams, Hester and Earl Bennett? Go ahead, freak out Pen.

Freak out about a team I don't root for?

You know that SKO and I are different people, right?

I figured since you were so butthurt over Spencer not starting, you'd have some tears about this news.

You mean, since this is the exact opposite of that?

Quote from: BH on August 10, 2011, 01:36:23 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 10, 2011, 01:29:13 PM

Quote from: BH on August 10, 2011, 01:28:44 PM

Quote from: PenPho on August 10, 2011, 01:21:18 PM

Quote from: BH on August 10, 2011, 01:18:14 PM
Knox is a 2nd string WR behind Roy Williams. Behind Williams, Hester and Earl Bennett? Go ahead, freak out Pen.

Freak out about a team I don't root for?

You know that SKO and I are different people, right?

I figured since you were so butthurt over Spencer not starting, you'd have some tears about this news.

You mean, since this is the exact opposite of that?

The opposite about caring who's in the starting lineup? Sure.

Quote from: BH on August 11, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
And now Know might force a trade because he isn't starting (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/44103946/ns/sports-player_news/).

Quote from: Slaky on August 11, 2011, 09:16:09 AM

Quote from: BH on August 11, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
And now Know might force a trade because he isn't starting (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/44103946/ns/sports-player_news/).

I don't now what you're talking about right know.

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:27:54 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 11, 2011, 09:16:09 AM

Quote from: BH on August 11, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
And now Know might force a trade because he isn't starting (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/44103946/ns/sports-player_news/).

I don't now what you're talking about right know.

Apparently Knox is pissed that Roy Williams is currently working at X receiver and that Knox is now #4 on the depth chart because the team is still going to give Hester the opportunity to pan out as a wideout and Earl Bennett is pretty much locked in as the slot/3rd down guy. I think if the sonofabitch can't handle the challenge of beating out Roy Williams he's even softer than I thought. Knox is a talented guy and his speed is an awesome asset, but he had a catch rate of just 52% last year. The X receiver in the Martz offense just gets the most targets (98 for Johnny vs. 72 for Hester and 70 for Bennett), and he didn't cash in anywhere near as many of them as he should. I guarantee you Roy would eclipse Johnny's numbers from last year in the spot. If you want to blame Cutler for Knox's poor catch rate on his targets, okay, but he had by far the lowest rate out of the trio with  Bennett (65.7%) and Hester (55.6%). I certainly wouldn't trade him unless someone is willing to overpay, but the guy's kind of an overrated midget who hasn't done nearly as much as he thinks he has.

Quote from: BH on August 11, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
And now Know might force a trade because he isn't starting (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/44103946/ns/sports-player_news/).

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 11, 2011, 09:37:44 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:27:54 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 11, 2011, 09:16:09 AM

Quote from: BH on August 11, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
And now Know might force a trade because he isn't starting (http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/44103946/ns/sports-player_news/).

I don't now what you're talking about right know.

Apparently Knox is pissed that Roy Williams is currently working at X receiver and that Knox is now #4 on the depth chart because the team is still going to give Hester the opportunity to pan out as a wideout and Earl Bennett is pretty much locked in as the slot/3rd down guy. I think if the sonofabitch can't handle the challenge of beating out Roy Williams he's even softer than I thought. Knox is a talented guy and his speed is an awesome asset, but he had a catch rate of just 52% last year. The X receiver in the Martz offense just gets the most targets (98 for Johnny vs. 72 for Hester and 70 for Bennett), and he didn't cash in anywhere near as many of them as he should. I guarantee you Roy would eclipse Johnny's numbers from last year in the spot. If you want to blame Cutler for Knox's poor catch rate on his targets, okay, but he had by far the lowest rate out of the trio with  Bennett (65.7%) and Hester (55.6%). I certainly wouldn't trade him unless someone is willing to overpay, but the guy's kind of an overrated midget who hasn't done nearly as much as he thinks he has.

I postive the concept of Johnny Knox: 4th Receiver. The idea of Roy Williams as the No. 1, however excites me about as much as Johnny Knox: No. 1 Receiver.

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 10:31:37 AM
Biggsy just wants them to trade him so they can get back Tim Shaw he can continue to give us updates on the asshurt status of former Bears.

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
Then again: (http://i53.tinypic.com/2m7ekus.jpg) http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101660079568322561

Quote from: PANK! on August 11, 2011, 11:16:08 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
Then again: (http://i53.tinypic.com/2m7ekus.jpg) http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101660079568322561

Isn't it ironic that he's vowing to not "give up" when his reputation is that of a wideout who gives up all too easily for jump balls?

CT?

Quote from: R-V on August 11, 2011, 11:30:23 AM

Quote from: PANK! on August 11, 2011, 11:16:08 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
Then again: (http://i53.tinypic.com/2m7ekus.jpg) http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101660079568322561

Isn't it ironic that he's vowing to not "give up" when his reputation is that of a wideout who gives up all too easily for jump balls?

CT?

Knox has had jump balls thrown to him?

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 10:31:37 AM
TPD...apparently our old friend Biggsy reported the Knox-trade thing and Johnny more or less told Biggsy to stick it up his ass http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101676119446659074 . Biggsy just wants them to trade him so he can continue to give us updates on the asshurt status of former Bears.

Quote from: PANK! on August 11, 2011, 11:16:08 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 09:31:06 AM
Then again: (http://i53.tinypic.com/2m7ekus.jpg) http://twitter.com/#/Jknox13/status/101660079568322561

Isn't it ironic that he's vowing to not "give up" when his reputation is that of a wideout who gives up all too easily for jump balls?

CT?

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 11, 2011, 09:37:44 AM
I postive the concept of Johnny Knox: 4th Receiver. The idea of Roy Williams as the No. 1, however excites me about as much as Johnny Knox: No. 1 Receiver.

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
I like when SKO talks about X, Z, and H receivers like he's a coach.

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 02:37:18 PM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
I like when SKO talks about X, Z, and H receivers like he's a coach.

Man, it really bothers you that nobody wants your opinion on anything, ever, doesn't it?

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
I like when SKO talks about X, Z, and H receivers like he's a coach.

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:56:00 PM

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 02:37:18 PM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
I like when SKO talks about X, Z, and H receivers like he's a coach.

Man, it really bothers you that nobody wants your opinion on anything, ever, doesn't it?

Are you asking my opinion?

Quote from: PenPho on August 11, 2011, 05:19:20 PM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:56:00 PM

Quote from: SKO on August 11, 2011, 02:37:18 PM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 11, 2011, 02:10:09 PM
I like when SKO talks about X, Z, and H receivers like he's a coach.

Man, it really bothers you that nobody wants your opinion on anything, ever, doesn't it?

Are you asking my opinion?

This was very funny.

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Fire up (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Bears-Williams-not-in-shape?urn=nfl-387550) the hatewagon for Roy Williams.

He needs to get his "wind right", ie, he's still out of shape.

Quote from: PANK! on August 18, 2011, 01:03:28 PM

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Fire up (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Bears-Williams-not-in-shape?urn=nfl-387550) the hatewagon for Roy Williams.

He needs to get his "wind right", ie, he's still out of shape.

Man, the pickings really are slim this training camp. 

Roy Williams is going to have his bests season as a pro and the best season for a Bears wideout ever.  #FACT

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 01:14:11 PM

Quote from: PANK! on August 18, 2011, 01:03:28 PM

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Fire up (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Bears-Williams-not-in-shape?urn=nfl-387550) the hatewagon for Roy Williams.

He needs to get his "wind right", ie, he's still out of shape.

Man, the pickings really are slim this training camp. 

Roy Williams is going to have his bests season as a pro and the best season for a Bears wideout ever.  #FACT

He's going to catch over 100 balls for more than 1400 yards and catch more than 13 TDs. You heard it hear first.
Left-to-right.

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 01:14:11 PM

Quote from: PANK! on August 18, 2011, 01:03:28 PM

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Fire up (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Bears-Williams-not-in-shape?urn=nfl-387550) the hatewagon for Roy Williams.

He needs to get his "wind right", ie, he's still out of shape.

Man, the pickings really are slim this training camp. 

Roy Williams is going to have his bests season as a pro and the best season for a Bears wideout ever.  #FACT

He's going to catch over 100 balls for more than 1400 yards and catch more than 13 TDs. You heard it hear first.
Left-to-right.

Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on August 18, 2011, 02:23:32 PM

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 01:14:11 PM

Quote from: PANK! on August 18, 2011, 01:03:28 PM

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Fire up (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Bears-Williams-not-in-shape?urn=nfl-387550) the hatewagon for Roy Williams.

He needs to get his "wind right", ie, he's still out of shape.

Man, the pickings really are slim this training camp. 

Roy Williams is going to have his bests season as a pro and the best season for a Bears wideout ever.  #FACT

He's going to catch over 100 balls for more than 1400 yards and catch more than 13 TDs. You heard it hear first.
Left-to-right.

I love hearing it hear

Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 18, 2011, 03:25:52 PM

Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on August 18, 2011, 02:23:32 PM

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 01:14:11 PM

Quote from: PANK! on August 18, 2011, 01:03:28 PM

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Fire up (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Bears-Williams-not-in-shape?urn=nfl-387550) the hatewagon for Roy Williams.

He needs to get his "wind right", ie, he's still out of shape.

Man, the pickings really are slim this training camp. 

Roy Williams is going to have his bests season as a pro and the best season for a Bears wideout ever.  #FACT

He's going to catch over 100 balls for more than 1400 yards and catch more than 13 TDs. You heard it hear first.
Left-to-right.

I love hearing it hear

When Yetti calls one out on a grammatical mistake, it's probably best to hang 'em up at that point.

Quote from: CBStew on August 18, 2011, 07:04:36 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 18, 2011, 03:25:52 PM

Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on August 18, 2011, 02:23:32 PM

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 01:14:11 PM

Quote from: PANK! on August 18, 2011, 01:03:28 PM

Quote from: BH on August 18, 2011, 12:42:55 PM
Fire up (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Bears-Williams-not-in-shape?urn=nfl-387550) the hatewagon for Roy Williams.

He needs to get his "wind right", ie, he's still out of shape.

Man, the pickings really are slim this training camp. 

Roy Williams is going to have his bests season as a pro and the best season for a Bears wideout ever.  #FACT

He's going to catch over 100 balls for more than 1400 yards and catch more than 13 TDs. You heard it hear first.
Left-to-right.

I love hearing it hear

When Yetti calls one out on a grammatical mistake, it's probably best to hang 'em up at that point.

Question.  When they approve of a comment that the speaker has made in the House of Commons are they saying "Here, here", or "Hear, hear",  or "Hear here"  or "Here, hear"? 

QuoteAs far as Cutler goes, the research shows what you see is what you get. Football Outsiders projects him to pass for 3,555 yards this season with 22 touchdowns and 18 interceptions.

"Mechanically he has flaws that a player of his experience should have corrected by now and players who don't correct that by his age and his number of attempts don't correct them," Tanier said. "He's not going to stop throwing off of his back foot when he's rushed. He's not going to stop throwing into coverage in the middle of the field because those are mistakes you correct in your second year or third year."

Who does Cutler compare to according to Football Outsiders?

"Jim Everett, a player who had a lot of success, threw for a lot of yards, had some playoff success, but couldn't overcome the sacks and couldn't overcome the mistakes," Tanier said. "When you take a lot of hits early in your career, your numbers start to go down a little more quickly."

From the book: "The similarities between the two quarterbacks are obvious: big arm, big stats, tendency to throw off the back foot, checkered-at-best reputation as a clubhouse personality."

Quote from: R-V on August 22, 2011, 12:42:39 PM
Biggsy takes a break from helping Tim Shaw pick out paint colors for his home theater to gather some interesting nuggets and tidbits from Football Outsiders (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-football-outsiders-bears-have-reason-for-optimism-20110822,0,3813808,full.story), including one comparison that I'm fairly certain will make SKO's bowlcut-topped head explode.

QuoteAs far as Cutler goes, the research shows what you see is what you get. Football Outsiders projects him to pass for 3,555 yards this season with 22 touchdowns and 18 interceptions.

"Mechanically he has flaws that a player of his experience should have corrected by now and players who don't correct that by his age and his number of attempts don't correct them," Tanier said. "He's not going to stop throwing off of his back foot when he's rushed. He's not going to stop throwing into coverage in the middle of the field because those are mistakes you correct in your second year or third year."

Who does Cutler compare to according to Football Outsiders?

"Jim Everett, a player who had a lot of success, threw for a lot of yards, had some playoff success, but couldn't overcome the sacks and couldn't overcome the mistakes," Tanier said. "When you take a lot of hits early in your career, your numbers start to go down a little more quickly."

From the book: "The similarities between the two quarterbacks are obvious: big arm, big stats, tendency to throw off the back foot, checkered-at-best reputation as a clubhouse personality."

Quote from: Fork on August 22, 2011, 02:37:30 PM

Quote from: R-V on August 22, 2011, 12:42:39 PM
Biggsy takes a break from helping Tim Shaw pick out paint colors for his home theater to gather some interesting nuggets and tidbits from Football Outsiders (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-football-outsiders-bears-have-reason-for-optimism-20110822,0,3813808,full.story), including one comparison that I'm fairly certain will make SKO's bowlcut-topped head explode.

QuoteAs far as Cutler goes, the research shows what you see is what you get. Football Outsiders projects him to pass for 3,555 yards this season with 22 touchdowns and 18 interceptions.

"Mechanically he has flaws that a player of his experience should have corrected by now and players who don't correct that by his age and his number of attempts don't correct them," Tanier said. "He's not going to stop throwing off of his back foot when he's rushed. He's not going to stop throwing into coverage in the middle of the field because those are mistakes you correct in your second year or third year."

Who does Cutler compare to according to Football Outsiders?

"Jim Everett, a player who had a lot of success, threw for a lot of yards, had some playoff success, but couldn't overcome the sacks and couldn't overcome the mistakes," Tanier said. "When you take a lot of hits early in your career, your numbers start to go down a little more quickly."

From the book: "The similarities between the two quarterbacks are obvious: big arm, big stats, tendency to throw off the back foot, checkered-at-best reputation as a clubhouse personality."

Chris Cutler?

Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2011, 11:33:37 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 22, 2011, 02:37:30 PM

Quote from: R-V on August 22, 2011, 12:42:39 PM
Biggsy takes a break from helping Tim Shaw pick out paint colors for his home theater to gather some interesting nuggets and tidbits from Football Outsiders (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-football-outsiders-bears-have-reason-for-optimism-20110822,0,3813808,full.story), including one comparison that I'm fairly certain will make SKO's bowlcut-topped head explode.

QuoteAs far as Cutler goes, the research shows what you see is what you get. Football Outsiders projects him to pass for 3,555 yards this season with 22 touchdowns and 18 interceptions.

"Mechanically he has flaws that a player of his experience should have corrected by now and players who don't correct that by his age and his number of attempts don't correct them," Tanier said. "He's not going to stop throwing off of his back foot when he's rushed. He's not going to stop throwing into coverage in the middle of the field because those are mistakes you correct in your second year or third year."

Who does Cutler compare to according to Football Outsiders?

"Jim Everett, a player who had a lot of success, threw for a lot of yards, had some playoff success, but couldn't overcome the sacks and couldn't overcome the mistakes," Tanier said. "When you take a lot of hits early in your career, your numbers start to go down a little more quickly."

From the book: "The similarities between the two quarterbacks are obvious: big arm, big stats, tendency to throw off the back foot, checkered-at-best reputation as a clubhouse personality."

Chris Cutler?

We've discussed the Cutler-Everett comparison in the shoutbox before. They're actually pretty similar in that Everett, too, was shit on for most of his career after 1989. I mean he played for the mid-90s Saints and Rams. Those teams were absolute garbage. If Cutler gets protection we will see if he can't improve. I also don't necessarily by the "guys don't improve at this stage of their career" argument. Possibly true, but Favre from 92-94 had some serious issues before Holmgren finally settled him down. No one remembers because he won three Superbowls, but Tom Brady's highest passer rating in his first three years as a starter was 86.5 and his highest YPA in that time was 6.9. Guys can improve when you improve the talent around them.

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 23, 2011, 11:48:33 AM

Quote from: SKO on August 23, 2011, 11:33:37 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 22, 2011, 02:37:30 PM

Quote from: R-V on August 22, 2011, 12:42:39 PM
Biggsy takes a break from helping Tim Shaw pick out paint colors for his home theater to gather some interesting nuggets and tidbits from Football Outsiders (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/cbsports-football-outsiders-bears-have-reason-for-optimism-20110822,0,3813808,full.story), including one comparison that I'm fairly certain will make SKO's bowlcut-topped head explode.

QuoteAs far as Cutler goes, the research shows what you see is what you get. Football Outsiders projects him to pass for 3,555 yards this season with 22 touchdowns and 18 interceptions.

"Mechanically he has flaws that a player of his experience should have corrected by now and players who don't correct that by his age and his number of attempts don't correct them," Tanier said. "He's not going to stop throwing off of his back foot when he's rushed. He's not going to stop throwing into coverage in the middle of the field because those are mistakes you correct in your second year or third year."

Who does Cutler compare to according to Football Outsiders?

"Jim Everett, a player who had a lot of success, threw for a lot of yards, had some playoff success, but couldn't overcome the sacks and couldn't overcome the mistakes," Tanier said. "When you take a lot of hits early in your career, your numbers start to go down a little more quickly."

From the book: "The similarities between the two quarterbacks are obvious: big arm, big stats, tendency to throw off the back foot, checkered-at-best reputation as a clubhouse personality."

Chris Cutler?

We've discussed the Cutler-Everett comparison in the shoutbox before. They're actually pretty similar in that Everett, too, was shit on for most of his career after 1989. I mean he played for the mid-90s Saints and Rams. Those teams were absolute garbage. If Cutler gets protection we will see if he can't improve. I also don't necessarily by the "guys don't improve at this stage of their career" argument. Possibly true, but Favre from 92-94 had some serious issues before Holmgren finally settled him down. No one remembers because he won three Superbowls, but Tom Brady's highest passer rating in his first three years as a starter was 86.5 and his highest YPA in that time was 6.9. Guys can improve when you improve the talent around them.

So Cutler is just as good as Tom Brady and Eli Manning?

QuoteSpecial stuff: The Bears' short-sighted release of special teams stalwart Tim Shaw at final cuts a year ago looks worse now.

Shaw was let go when the team trimmed to 53 and the Bears kept Hunter Hillenmeyer knowing the veteran with a history of concussions was coming off another head injury in preseason. Hillenmeyer lasted one game and the club was forced to bring in Rod Wilson, a player who knew the system but didn't match Shaw's capabilities on special teams a year after he set a franchise record with 30 tackles.

Now, the Bears aren't certain what kind of help they have for Dave Toub at linebacker and in the secondary and it won't be surprising if the club makes a waiver move at final cuts to bring in some help. Shaw, who the Titans scooped up on waivers last September, led them with 20 special teams tackles.

Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2011, 08:23:08 AM
RV STICKPOKE!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0827-bits-bears-chicago--20110827,0,3781327.story

QuoteSpecial stuff: The Bears' short-sighted release of special teams stalwart Tim Shaw at final cuts a year ago looks worse now.

Shaw was let go when the team trimmed to 53 and the Bears kept Hunter Hillenmeyer knowing the veteran with a history of concussions was coming off another head injury in preseason. Hillenmeyer lasted one game and the club was forced to bring in Rod Wilson, a player who knew the system but didn't match Shaw's capabilities on special teams a year after he set a franchise record with 30 tackles.

Now, the Bears aren't certain what kind of help they have for Dave Toub at linebacker and in the secondary and it won't be surprising if the club makes a waiver move at final cuts to bring in some help. Shaw, who the Titans scooped up on waivers last September, led them with 20 special teams tackles.

Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2011, 08:23:08 AM
RV STICKPOKE!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0827-bits-bears-chicago--20110827,0,3781327.story

QuoteSpecial stuff: The Bears' short-sighted release of special teams stalwart Tim Shaw at final cuts a year ago looks worse now.

Shaw was let go when the team trimmed to 53 and the Bears kept Hunter Hillenmeyer knowing the veteran with a history of concussions was coming off another head injury in preseason. Hillenmeyer lasted one game and the club was forced to bring in Rod Wilson, a player who knew the system but didn't match Shaw's capabilities on special teams a year after he set a franchise record with 30 tackles.

Now, the Bears aren't certain what kind of help they have for Dave Toub at linebacker and in the secondary and it won't be surprising if the club makes a waiver move at final cuts to bring in some help. Shaw, who the Titans scooped up on waivers last September, led them with 20 special teams tackles.

Quote from: Slaky on August 27, 2011, 10:24:25 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2011, 08:23:08 AM
RV STICKPOKE!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0827-bits-bears-chicago--20110827,0,3781327.story

QuoteSpecial stuff: The Bears' short-sighted release of special teams stalwart Tim Shaw at final cuts a year ago looks worse now.

Shaw was let go when the team trimmed to 53 and the Bears kept Hunter Hillenmeyer knowing the veteran with a history of concussions was coming off another head injury in preseason. Hillenmeyer lasted one game and the club was forced to bring in Rod Wilson, a player who knew the system but didn't match Shaw's capabilities on special teams a year after he set a franchise record with 30 tackles.

Now, the Bears aren't certain what kind of help they have for Dave Toub at linebacker and in the secondary and it won't be surprising if the club makes a waiver move at final cuts to bring in some help. Shaw, who the Titans scooped up on waivers last September, led them with 20 special teams tackles.

YOUVE GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME.

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 28, 2011, 06:49:10 AM
"I missed most of the Bears game Monday night and when I finally had a chance to tune in, the game was well out of reach. I did see the highlights and I will say that was awful to say the least. Then again, this is what we should expect from the Bears: Shitty defense in terms of the secondary and a horrendous offense led by the genius Mike Martz. I saw this shit last presason so it isn't anything new. When they play the Titans on Saturday, I think it's going to be just as ugly. Just imagine how bad it's going to be when the regular season starts. For the stat idiots out there, don't waste your time here about how the Bears almost went to the Super Bowl last year. They go 11-5 yet played like a an 8-8 team. I'd rather have a team go 8-8, barely get into the playoffs and eventually win the Super Bowl than the same team going 11-5 and showing how shitty they really are when it matters the most. Enough of that though."

Quote from: SKO on August 28, 2011, 02:17:33 PM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 28, 2011, 06:49:10 AM
"I missed most of the Bears game Monday night and when I finally had a chance to tune in, the game was well out of reach. I did see the highlights and I will say that was awful to say the least. Then again, this is what we should expect from the Bears: Shitty defense in terms of the secondary and a horrendous offense led by the genius Mike Martz. I saw this shit last presason so it isn't anything new. When they play the Titans on Saturday, I think it's going to be just as ugly. Just imagine how bad it's going to be when the regular season starts. For the stat idiots out there, don't waste your time here about how the Bears almost went to the Super Bowl last year. They go 11-5 yet played like a an 8-8 team. I'd rather have a team go 8-8, barely get into the playoffs and eventually win the Super Bowl than the same team going 11-5 and showing how shitty they really are when it matters the most. Enough of that though."

Yeah, faggots. Fro would rather have a team that wins the Superbowl than a team that doesn't, unlike you and your stats.

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 27, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
THE BEARS SPECIAL TEAMS ARE IN CRISIS DAMMIT SAM HURDS IN A WALKING BOOT DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

Quote from: BBM on August 28, 2011, 05:15:02 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 27, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
THE BEARS SPECIAL TEAMS ARE IN CRISIS DAMMIT SAM HURDS IN A WALKING BOOT DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

DAT GUY AIN'T NO MIKE H...DAVE SANSABELTER MY FRENT.

Quote from: CT III on August 28, 2011, 05:50:57 PM

Quote from: BBM on August 28, 2011, 05:15:02 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 27, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
THE BEARS SPECIAL TEAMS ARE IN CRISIS DAMMIT SAM HURDS IN A WALKING BOOT DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

DAT GUY AIN'T NO MIKE H...DAVE SANSABELTER MY FRENT.

DAT'S SANZENBASHNAGEL YA IDJIT!

I apologize.  After some contemplation, it's become clear to me that SANSABELTER is a completely awesome nickname.

Quote from: Slaky on August 27, 2011, 10:24:25 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 27, 2011, 08:23:08 AM
RV STICKPOKE!

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-spt-0827-bits-bears-chicago--20110827,0,3781327.story

QuoteSpecial stuff: The Bears' short-sighted release of special teams stalwart Tim Shaw at final cuts a year ago looks worse now.

Shaw was let go when the team trimmed to 53 and the Bears kept Hunter Hillenmeyer knowing the veteran with a history of concussions was coming off another head injury in preseason. Hillenmeyer lasted one game and the club was forced to bring in Rod Wilson, a player who knew the system but didn't match Shaw's capabilities on special teams a year after he set a franchise record with 30 tackles.

Now, the Bears aren't certain what kind of help they have for Dave Toub at linebacker and in the secondary and it won't be surprising if the club makes a waiver move at final cuts to bring in some help. Shaw, who the Titans scooped up on waivers last September, led them with 20 special teams tackles.

YOUVE GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME.

Quote from: BBM on August 29, 2011, 08:19:17 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 28, 2011, 05:50:57 PM

Quote from: BBM on August 28, 2011, 05:15:02 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 27, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
THE BEARS SPECIAL TEAMS ARE IN CRISIS DAMMIT SAM HURDS IN A WALKING BOOT DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

DAT GUY AIN'T NO MIKE H...DAVE SANSABELTER MY FRENT.

DAT'S SANZENBASHNAGEL YA IDJIT!

I apologize.  After some contemplation, it's become clear to me that SANSABELTER is a completely awesome nickname.

Jamal "Barbados Slim" Mayers agrees.

Quote from: BBM on August 29, 2011, 08:19:17 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 28, 2011, 05:50:57 PM

Quote from: BBM on August 28, 2011, 05:15:02 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 27, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
THE BEARS SPECIAL TEAMS ARE IN CRISIS DAMMIT SAM HURDS IN A WALKING BOOT DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

DAT GUY AIN'T NO MIKE H...DAVE SANSABELTER MY FRENT.

DAT'S SANZENBASHNAGEL YA IDJIT!

I apologize.  After some contemplation, it's become clear to me that SANSABELTER is a completely awesome nickname.

Jamal "Barbados Slim" Mayers agrees.

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2011, 10:15:47 AM

Quote from: BBM on August 29, 2011, 08:19:17 AM

Quote from: CT III on August 28, 2011, 05:50:57 PM

Quote from: BBM on August 28, 2011, 05:15:02 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on August 27, 2011, 02:56:59 PM
THE BEARS SPECIAL TEAMS ARE IN CRISIS DAMMIT SAM HURDS IN A WALKING BOOT DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!

DAT GUY AIN'T NO MIKE H...DAVE SANSABELTER MY FRENT.

DAT'S SANZENBASHNAGEL YA IDJIT!

I apologize.  After some contemplation, it's become clear to me that SANSABELTER is a completely awesome nickname.

Jamal "Barbados Slim" Mayers agrees.

Does SANSABELTER wear no belt and constantly drop his drawers to reveal a 14-inch penis? I'm guessing yeah.

Quote from: BH on September 02, 2011, 11:57:01 AM
Bill Barnwell calls it like he sees it (http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/6918507/part-i). Our Bearz have NO CHANCE the Bears won't suck this year.  

"The Bears rode an awesome, unsustainable, life-affirming year of luck to the NFC Championship Game last season. Nobody can take that away from them. But let's pick away at that record to reveal why they will be terrible in 2011."

"Best-case scenario: They stay relatively healthy on defense, the offensive line percolates and produces a league-average attack, and they sneak into the playoffs as a 10-6 wild card.

Worst-case scenario: Oh, boy. Remember the 2010 Cowboys? Follow that blueprint to a T."

Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

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Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

  Sounds like a character in Gone With the Wind.

Quote from: Slaky on September 06, 2011, 09:37:20 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

All I keep reading about is what a prick he is.

Quote from: R-V on September 06, 2011, 10:26:09 AM

Quote from: Slaky on September 06, 2011, 09:37:20 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

All I keep reading about is what a prick he is.

And that Belichick NEVER gets rid of someone who gets results, stupid chief.

Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 12:24:51 PM

Quote from: R-V on September 06, 2011, 10:26:09 AM

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Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

All I keep reading about is what a prick he is.

And that Belichick NEVER gets rid of someone who gets results, stupid chief.

I don't care if he's a prick or not, and the Pats get rid of plenty of talented players. They usually don't suffer because they have depth behind them, but Belichick doesn't want to deal with anybody who he considers to be a problem. They got rid of Lawyer Milloy in 2002 and he's Still playing. Seymour's been productive with the Raiders. Deion Branch wasn't a terrible player, the Seahawks just blew while he was there. McGinest had some good years in Cleveland. Belichick lets go of good players, he just wins without them. Either way, at best Meriweather's a Pro Bowl safety who immediately strengthens the secondary. At worst he's one hell of an insurance plan if Major Wright doesn't pan out.

Quote from: Internet Apex on September 06, 2011, 10:18:15 AM

Quote from: CBStew on September 06, 2011, 09:57:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

  Sounds like a character in Gone With the Wind.

Which one?

Quote from: CBStew on September 06, 2011, 01:07:04 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on September 06, 2011, 10:18:15 AM

Quote from: CBStew on September 06, 2011, 09:57:41 AM

Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

  Sounds like a character in Gone With the Wind.

Which one?

In the opening scene when Mizz Scarlet is getting ready to eat Bah Be Cue with the Tarleton twins  (otherwise known as Clark Kent and his brother) I could have sworn that Brandon Mera-weatheh was mentioned.

Quote from: Internet Apex on September 06, 2011, 01:07:47 PM

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Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

  Sounds like a character in Gone With the Wind.

Which one?

In the opening scene when Mizz Scarlet is getting ready to eat Bah Be Cue with the Tarleton twins  (otherwise known as Clark Kent and his brother) I could have sworn that Brandon Mera-weatheh was mentioned.

Did they say he was a prick?

Quote from: CBStew on September 06, 2011, 01:15:53 PM

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Quote from: CBStew on September 06, 2011, 01:07:04 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on September 06, 2011, 10:18:15 AM

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Quote from: SKO on September 06, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
What? No one else is excited about Brandon Meriweather just falling into the Bears' lap? If he can stay out of trouble he's an awesome safety.

  Sounds like a character in Gone With the Wind.

Which one?

In the opening scene when Mizz Scarlet is getting ready to eat Bah Be Cue with the Tarleton twins  (otherwise known as Clark Kent and his brother) I could have sworn that Brandon Mera-weatheh was mentioned.

Did they say he was a prick?

Only in the Director's cut.

Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 08:38:47 AM
This is going to be hilarious assuming the Bears don't lag in making any changes to their staff.

I assume Lovie stays and Tice goes.

Quote from: BBM on December 24, 2012, 03:36:00 PM
TADAY IST A SAAD DAY MY FRENTS.

Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

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Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

Quote from: SKO on December 31, 2012, 10:39:42 AM

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Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

I don't think he's calling you a meatball for wanting Lovie fired at this point. You're a meatball for many other reasons. I think he's mostly just saying that those who salivated over his firing when he went 7-9 the year after a Superbowl trip will have their day, and it will be entertaining.

Quote from: SKO on December 31, 2012, 10:39:42 AM

Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:20:31 AM

Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

I don't think he's calling you a meatball for wanting Lovie fired at this point. You're a meatball for many other reasons. I think he's mostly just saying that those who salivated over his firing when he went 7-9 the year after a Superbowl trip will have their day, and it will be entertaining.

Quote from: SKO on December 31, 2012, 10:39:42 AM

Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:20:31 AM

Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

I don't think he's calling you a meatball for wanting Lovie fired at this point. You're a meatball for many other reasons. I think he's mostly just saying that those who salivated over his firing when he went 7-9 the year after a Superbowl trip will have their day, and it will be entertaining.

Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 02:14:31 PM

Quote from: SKO on December 31, 2012, 10:39:42 AM

Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:20:31 AM

Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

I don't think he's calling you a meatball for wanting Lovie fired at this point. You're a meatball for many other reasons. I think he's mostly just saying that those who salivated over his firing when he went 7-9 the year after a Superbowl trip will have their day, and it will be entertaining.

I didn't take it as a shot against me.  Just...why worry about the meatball take today?   I'm excited that the Bears at least have a decisive GM in place.

Quote from: R-V on December 31, 2012, 02:21:44 PM

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Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

I don't think he's calling you a meatball for wanting Lovie fired at this point. You're a meatball for many other reasons. I think he's mostly just saying that those who salivated over his firing when he went 7-9 the year after a Superbowl trip will have their day, and it will be entertaining.

I didn't take it as a shot against me.  Just...why worry about the meatball take today?   I'm excited that the Bears at least have a decisive GM in place.

"You're a meatball for many other reasons" is the winning line of the day.

The mickball is correct though - it's great to see a Bears decision made quickly instead of having to wait for the next McCaskey family dinner so they could decide to hire a search firm to decide what decisions needed to be made so those decisions could then be discussed at the next family dinner.

Quote from: CT III on December 31, 2012, 02:24:43 PM

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Quote from: SKO on December 31, 2012, 10:39:42 AM

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Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

I don't think he's calling you a meatball for wanting Lovie fired at this point. You're a meatball for many other reasons. I think he's mostly just saying that those who salivated over his firing when he went 7-9 the year after a Superbowl trip will have their day, and it will be entertaining.

I didn't take it as a shot against me.  Just...why worry about the meatball take today?   I'm excited that the Bears at least have a decisive GM in place.

"You're a meatball for many other reasons" is the winning line of the day.

The mickball is correct though - it's great to see a Bears decision made quickly instead of having to wait for the next McCaskey family dinner so they could decide to hire a search firm to decide what decisions needed to be made so those decisions could then be discussed at the next family dinner.

Yes this.  Although I am enjoying hearing meatballs call the Score upset and confused because some of the Bears' players spoke in Lovie's defense after he was fired. 

DON'T DEY UNNERSTAN DAT SHOWS A TOTAL DISRGART FOR DA FANS?!?

On another note, if we don't break Eli this week, we never will.

Quote from: R-V on December 31, 2012, 02:21:44 PM

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Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

I don't think he's calling you a meatball for wanting Lovie fired at this point. You're a meatball for many other reasons. I think he's mostly just saying that those who salivated over his firing when he went 7-9 the year after a Superbowl trip will have their day, and it will be entertaining.

I didn't take it as a shot against me.  Just...why worry about the meatball take today?   I'm excited that the Bears at least have a decisive GM in place.

"You're a meatball for many other reasons" is the winning line of the day.

The mickball is correct though - it's great to see a Bears decision made quickly instead of having to wait for the next McCLaskey family dinner so they could decide to hire a search firm to decide what decisions needed to be made so those decisions could then be discussed at the next family dinner.

Quote from: CT III on December 31, 2012, 02:24:43 PM

Quote from: R-V on December 31, 2012, 02:21:44 PM

Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 02:14:31 PM

Quote from: SKO on December 31, 2012, 10:39:42 AM

Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:20:31 AM

Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

I don't think he's calling you a meatball for wanting Lovie fired at this point. You're a meatball for many other reasons. I think he's mostly just saying that those who salivated over his firing when he went 7-9 the year after a Superbowl trip will have their day, and it will be entertaining.

I didn't take it as a shot against me.  Just...why worry about the meatball take today?   I'm excited that the Bears at least have a decisive GM in place.

"You're a meatball for many other reasons" is the winning line of the day.

The mickball is correct though - it's great to see a Bears decision made quickly instead of having to wait for the next McCaskey family dinner so they could decide to hire a search firm to decide what decisions needed to be made so those decisions could then be discussed at the next family dinner.

Yes this.  Although I am enjoying hearing meatballs call the Score upset and confused because some of the Bears' players spoke in Lovie's defense after he was fired. 

DON'T DEY UNNERSTAN DAT SHOWS A TOTAL DISRGART FOR DA FANS?!?

On another note, if we don't break Eli this week, we never will.

Quote from: Eli on January 01, 2013, 08:57:49 AM

Quote from: CT III on December 31, 2012, 02:24:43 PM

Quote from: R-V on December 31, 2012, 02:21:44 PM

Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 02:14:31 PM

Quote from: SKO on December 31, 2012, 10:39:42 AM

Quote from: PANK! on December 31, 2012, 10:20:31 AM

Quote from: Slaky on December 31, 2012, 09:56:34 AM
Lovie is gone. Let's fire up the meatball wagon.

Or let's hire a head coach who can stick around for a decade and do better than half as many playoff seasons as non-playoff seasons.

I don't think he's calling you a meatball for wanting Lovie fired at this point. You're a meatball for many other reasons. I think he's mostly just saying that those who salivated over his firing when he went 7-9 the year after a Superbowl trip will have their day, and it will be entertaining.

I didn't take it as a shot against me.  Just...why worry about the meatball take today?   I'm excited that the Bears at least have a decisive GM in place.

"You're a meatball for many other reasons" is the winning line of the day.

The mickball is correct though - it's great to see a Bears decision made quickly instead of having to wait for the next McCaskey family dinner so they could decide to hire a search firm to decide what decisions needed to be made so those decisions could then be discussed at the next family dinner.

Yes this.  Although I am enjoying hearing meatballs call the Score upset and confused because some of the Bears' players spoke in Lovie's defense after he was fired. 

DON'T DEY UNNERSTAN DAT SHOWS A TOTAL DISRGART FOR DA FANS?!?

On another note, if we don't break Eli this week, we never will.

You're OK. I'm OK. Happy New Year.

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 09, 2013, 11:00:25 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

I sincerely hope they clean that couch after each filming.

Quote from: CT III on January 09, 2013, 11:11:32 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 09, 2013, 11:00:25 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

I sincerely hope they clean that couch after each filming.

At least they replaced the old couch after the Russ Grimm Unpleasantness.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 09, 2013, 11:33:23 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 09, 2013, 11:11:32 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 09, 2013, 11:00:25 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

I sincerely hope they clean that couch after each filming.

At least they replaced the old couch after the Russ Grimm Unpleasantness.

I wonder how many Desipervs understand Thrill's reference.

Quote from: Tonker on January 09, 2013, 11:50:42 AM

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Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 09, 2013, 11:00:25 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

I sincerely hope they clean that couch after each filming.

At least they replaced the old couch after the Russ Grimm Unpleasantness.

I wonder how many Desipervs understand Thrill's reference.

I'm admitting nothing.

Quote from: Tonker on January 09, 2013, 11:50:42 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 09, 2013, 11:33:23 AM

Quote from: CT III on January 09, 2013, 11:11:32 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 09, 2013, 11:00:25 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

I sincerely hope they clean that couch after each filming.

At least they replaced the old couch after the Russ Grimm Unpleasantness.

I wonder how many Desipervs understand Thrill's reference.

I'm admitting nothing.

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 09, 2013, 12:19:15 PM
I don't know what it is.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 12:40:41 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

So there actually is no Bears head coaching job, then.

Quote from: Fork on January 09, 2013, 01:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 12:40:41 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

So there actually is no Bears head coaching job, then.

something something "head" coaching something

Quote from: flannj on January 09, 2013, 01:41:50 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 09, 2013, 01:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 12:40:41 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

So there actually is no Bears head coaching job, then.

something something "head" coaching something

Emery is a hands on General Manager.
So he's going to go deep into the selection process.
He'll be drained at the conclusion.

Quote from: flannj on January 09, 2013, 01:41:50 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 09, 2013, 01:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 12:40:41 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

So there actually is no Bears head coaching job, then.

something something "head" coaching something

Emery is a hands on General Manager.
So he's going to go deep into the selection process.
He'll be drained at the conclusion.

Quote from: Eli on January 09, 2013, 02:00:03 PM

Quote from: flannj on January 09, 2013, 01:41:50 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 09, 2013, 01:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 12:40:41 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

So there actually is no Bears head coaching job, then.

something something "head" coaching something

Emery is a hands on General Manager.
So he's going to go deep into the selection process.
He'll be drained at the conclusion.

Sex

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 04:07:06 PM

Quote from: Eli on January 09, 2013, 02:00:03 PM

Quote from: flannj on January 09, 2013, 01:41:50 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 09, 2013, 01:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 12:40:41 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

So there actually is no Bears head coaching job, then.

something something "head" coaching something

Emery is a hands on General Manager.
So he's going to go deep into the selection process.
He'll be drained at the conclusion.

Sex

With really, really stupid women.

Quote from: Yeti on January 09, 2013, 06:04:40 PM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 04:07:06 PM

Quote from: Eli on January 09, 2013, 02:00:03 PM
Sex

With really, really stupid women.

Well, they likely are dumb, but possibly not duped: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/10/despite_what_you_may_have_hear.php

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 06:58:56 PM

Quote from: Yeti on January 09, 2013, 06:04:40 PM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 04:07:06 PM

Quote from: Eli on January 09, 2013, 02:00:03 PM
Sex

With really, really stupid women.

Well, they likely are dumb, but possibly not duped: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/10/despite_what_you_may_have_hear.php

"Possibly"?

Next you'll tell me the Bang Bus guys weren't actually finding random sluts on the street who were down to DTF in the back of someone's van.

Quote from: Yeti on January 09, 2013, 06:04:40 PM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 04:07:06 PM

Quote from: Eli on January 09, 2013, 02:00:03 PM

Quote from: flannj on January 09, 2013, 01:41:50 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 09, 2013, 01:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 12:40:41 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

So there actually is no Bears head coaching job, then.

something something "head" coaching something

Emery is a hands on General Manager.
So he's going to go deep into the selection process.
He'll be drained at the conclusion.

Sex

With really, really stupid women.

Well, they likely are dumb, but possibly not duped: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/10/despite_what_you_may_have_hear.php

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 06:58:56 PM
down to DTF

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 09:12:00 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 06:58:56 PM
down to DTF

?

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 08:05:17 PM

Quote from: Yeti on January 09, 2013, 06:04:40 PM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 04:07:06 PM

Quote from: Eli on January 09, 2013, 02:00:03 PM

Quote from: flannj on January 09, 2013, 01:41:50 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 09, 2013, 01:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 12:40:41 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

So there actually is no Bears head coaching job, then.

something something "head" coaching something

Emery is a hands on General Manager.
So he's going to go deep into the selection process.
He'll be drained at the conclusion.

Sex

With really, really stupid women.

Well, they likely are dumb, but possibly not duped: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/10/despite_what_you_may_have_hear.php

Well, I just learned there's a site called pornhub. OK.

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 10, 2013, 08:06:44 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
Well, I just learned there's a site called pornhub. OK.

Seriously?

Quote from: Oleg on January 10, 2013, 08:17:08 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 10, 2013, 08:06:44 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
Well, I just learned there's a site called pornhub. OK.

Seriously?

Yep.  Maybe I knew before and just repressed it or something.  Maybe youporn and redtube met my free, online porn needs.  I dunno...whatever.

Quote from: Tonker on January 10, 2013, 08:37:13 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 10, 2013, 08:17:08 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 10, 2013, 08:06:44 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
Well, I just learned there's a site called pornhub. OK.

Seriously?

Yep.  Maybe I knew before and just repressed it or something.  Maybe youporn and redtube met my free, online porn needs.  I dunno...whatever.

So, no xhamster either?  Good God man, it's not like you're TDubbs, smashing in the back doors of anything that bends over long enough.  I mean, you probably have secks more often than me, but God knows that's not saying much.  What the fuck have you been doing?  Redtube?  I wouldn't wank over that if it was on fire.

Quote from: Tonker on January 10, 2013, 08:37:13 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 10, 2013, 08:17:08 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 10, 2013, 08:06:44 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
Well, I just learned there's a site called pornhub. OK.

Seriously?

Yep.  Maybe I knew before and just repressed it or something.  Maybe youporn and redtube met my free, online porn needs.  I dunno...whatever.

So, no xhamster either?  Good God man, it's not like you're TDubbs, smashing in the back doors of anything that bends over long enough.  I mean, you probably have secks more often than me, but God knows that's not saying much.  What the fuck have you been doing?  Redtube?  I wouldn't wank over that if it was on fire.

Quote from: Fork on January 10, 2013, 09:01:42 AM

Quote from: Tonker on January 10, 2013, 08:37:13 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 10, 2013, 08:17:08 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 10, 2013, 08:06:44 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
Well, I just learned there's a site called pornhub. OK.

Seriously?

Yep.  Maybe I knew before and just repressed it or something.  Maybe youporn and redtube met my free, online porn needs.  I dunno...whatever.

So, no xhamster either?  Good God man, it's not like you're TDubbs, smashing in the back doors of anything that bends over long enough.  I mean, you probably have secks more often than me, but God knows that's not saying much.  What the fuck have you been doing?  Redtube?  I wouldn't wank over that if it was on fire.

xhamster is the go-to for any clips of Desiree Cousteau, Seka, or any of the other Swedish Erotica greats.

Quote from: Yeti on January 09, 2013, 06:04:40 PM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 04:07:06 PM

Quote from: Eli on January 09, 2013, 02:00:03 PM

Quote from: flannj on January 09, 2013, 01:41:50 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 09, 2013, 01:28:29 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 09, 2013, 12:40:41 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 09, 2013, 10:59:10 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 09, 2013, 10:39:12 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 08, 2013, 03:48:23 PM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 08, 2013, 03:30:16 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 08, 2013, 03:24:12 PM
They've got to be kidding.

EDEN PRAIRIE, Minn. (AP) -- Minnesota assistants Mike Singletary and Mike Priefer will interview for the Chicago head coaching vacancy.

Vikings coach Leslie Frazier confirmed Tuesday that the Bears made the request. There are at least 10 other coaches reported to be under consideration to replace the fired Lovie Smith in Chicago.

After an unsuccessful stint as coach of the San Francisco 49ers, Singletary was hired by his former Bears teammate Frazier to be a linebackers coach and a special assistant. He's been with the Vikings for two years.

Priefer has completed two seasons as special teams coordinator, helping steer the organization's decision to cut veteran kicker Ryan Longwell and draft Blair Walsh, who made the Pro Bowl as a rookie this year.

Rooney Rule, dude.

More like Bears Organization Asking Emery To Do A Favor For An Old Great-Rule.

They satisfied the Rooney Rule with the Falcons special teams guy.

This apparently is the newly-formed "Emery Rule" where you have to interview at least one person born in every state in the country.

It all starts to make sense once you get a look at the office Emery is using for the interviews...

(http://i.imgur.com/gjyZc.jpg)

So there actually is no Bears head coaching job, then.

something something "head" coaching something

Emery is a hands on General Manager.
So he's going to go deep into the selection process.
He'll be drained at the conclusion.

Sex

With really, really stupid women.

Well, they likely are dumb, but possibly not duped: http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/2010/10/despite_what_you_may_have_hear.php

Quote from: Yeti on January 10, 2013, 08:50:20 AM

Quote from: Tonker on January 10, 2013, 08:37:13 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 10, 2013, 08:17:08 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 10, 2013, 08:06:44 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
Well, I just learned there's a site called pornhub. OK.

Seriously?

Yep.  Maybe I knew before and just repressed it or something.  Maybe youporn and redtube met my free, online porn needs.  I dunno...whatever.

So, no xhamster either?  Good God man, it's not like you're TDubbs, smashing in the back doors of anything that bends over long enough.  I mean, you probably have secks more often than me, but God knows that's not saying much.  What the fuck have you been doing?  Redtube?  I wouldn't wank over that if it was on fire.

submityourflicks is great if you want to see videos of my ex-girlfriends find average looking people banging other average looking people.

Quote from: PenFoe on January 10, 2013, 10:06:26 AM

Quote from: Yeti on January 10, 2013, 08:50:20 AM

Quote from: Tonker on January 10, 2013, 08:37:13 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 10, 2013, 08:17:08 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 10, 2013, 08:06:44 AM

Quote from: Oleg on January 09, 2013, 08:05:17 PM
Well, I just learned there's a site called pornhub. OK.

Seriously?

Yep.  Maybe I knew before and just repressed it or something.  Maybe youporn and redtube met my free, online porn needs.  I dunno...whatever.

So, no xhamster either?  Good God man, it's not like you're TDubbs, smashing in the back doors of anything that bends over long enough.  I mean, you probably have secks more often than me, but God knows that's not saying much.  What the fuck have you been doing?  Redtube?  I wouldn't wank over that if it was on fire.

submityourflicks is great if you want to see pictures of birds with gashes like badly-packed kebabs videos of my ex-girlfriends find average looking people banging other average looking people.

Let's just be honest'd

Quote from: CBStew on January 13, 2013, 11:46:43 AM
While I certainly enjoyed the 49'ers dissection of the Packers, what got the biggest rise out of me was Mike Harbaugh.  With 1:07 left to play and his team up 45 to 24, the Niners have an interception taken away and are hit with a pass interference penalty.  He runs screaming onto the field and starts stomping his foot and jumping up and down in place as though his big brother took a toy away from him. 

Quote from: CBStew on January 13, 2013, 11:46:43 AM
While I certainly enjoyed the 49'ers dissection of the Packers, what got the biggest rise out of me was Mike Harbaugh.  With 1:07 left to play and his team up 45 to 24, the Niners have an interception taken away and are hit with a pass interference penalty.  He runs screaming onto the field and starts stomping his foot and jumping up and down in place as though his big brother took a toy away from him. 

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 13, 2013, 01:22:35 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 13, 2013, 11:46:43 AM
While I certainly enjoyed the 49'ers dissection of the Packers, what got the biggest rise out of me was Mike Harbaugh.  With 1:07 left to play and his team up 45 to 24, the Niners have an interception taken away and are hit with a pass interference penalty.  He runs screaming onto the field and starts stomping his foot and jumping up and down in place as though his big brother took a toy away from him. 

Mike? Is this a nickname I don't know about?

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 13, 2013, 03:24:16 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 13, 2013, 01:22:35 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 13, 2013, 11:46:43 AM
While I certainly enjoyed the 49'ers dissection of the Packers, what got the biggest rise out of me was Mike Harbaugh.  With 1:07 left to play and his team up 45 to 24, the Niners have an interception taken away and are hit with a pass interference penalty.  He runs screaming onto the field and starts stomping his foot and jumping up and down in place as though his big brother took a toy away from him. 

Mike? Is this a nickname I don't know about?

I took it as a potshot at Singletary, but I'll defer to the source for an explanation.

Quote from: CT III on January 13, 2013, 06:47:43 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 13, 2013, 03:24:16 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 13, 2013, 01:22:35 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 13, 2013, 11:46:43 AM
While I certainly enjoyed the 49'ers dissection of the Packers, what got the biggest rise out of me was Mike Harbaugh.  With 1:07 left to play and his team up 45 to 24, the Niners have an interception taken away and are hit with a pass interference penalty.  He runs screaming onto the field and starts stomping his foot and jumping up and down in place as though his big brother took a toy away from him. 

Mike? Is this a nickname I don't know about?

I took it as a potshot at Singletary, but I'll defer to the source for an explanation.

The first one stands for BYOBB, the second one is a typo.

Quote from: CBStew on January 13, 2013, 07:16:26 PM

Quote from: CT III on January 13, 2013, 06:47:43 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 13, 2013, 03:24:16 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 13, 2013, 01:22:35 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 13, 2013, 11:46:43 AM
While I certainly enjoyed the 49'ers dissection of the Packers, what got the biggest rise out of me was Mike Harbaugh.  With 1:07 left to play and his team up 45 to 24, the Niners have an interception taken away and are hit with a pass interference penalty.  He runs screaming onto the field and starts stomping his foot and jumping up and down in place as though his big brother took a toy away from him. 

Mike? Is this a nickname I don't know about?

I took it as a potshot at Singletary, but I'll defer to the source for an explanation.

The first one stands for BYOBB, the second one is a typo.

You mean all pro football coaches aren't named "Mike"?

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 13, 2013, 07:25:03 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 13, 2013, 07:16:26 PM

Quote from: CT III on January 13, 2013, 06:47:43 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 13, 2013, 03:24:16 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 13, 2013, 01:22:35 PM

Quote from: CBStew on January 13, 2013, 11:46:43 AM
While I certainly enjoyed the 49'ers dissection of the Packers, what got the biggest rise out of me was Mike Harbaugh.  With 1:07 left to play and his team up 45 to 24, the Niners have an interception taken away and are hit with a pass interference penalty.  He runs screaming onto the field and starts stomping his foot and jumping up and down in place as though his big brother took a toy away from him. 

Mike? Is this a nickname I don't know about?

I took it as a potshot at Singletary, but I'll defer to the source for an explanation.

The first one stands for BYOBB, the second one is a typo.

You mean all pro football coaches aren't named "Mike"?

Some are named Sam or Will.

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 15, 2013, 11:25:51 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

How does it feel then? (||)

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:16:54 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

Meh.

Bring on Trestman the Jew and let's do this.

Quote from: CBStew on January 15, 2013, 11:30:46 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:16:54 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

Meh.

Bring on Trestman the Jew and let's do this.

Marv Levy?

Quote from: CBStew on January 15, 2013, 11:30:46 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:16:54 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

Meh.

Bring on Trestman the Jew and let's do this.

Marv Levy?

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:36:35 AM

Quote from: CBStew on January 15, 2013, 11:30:46 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:16:54 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

Meh.

Bring on Trestman the Jew and let's do this.

Marv Levy?

Trestman is a Jewish man.

Quote from: BH on January 15, 2013, 11:48:32 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:36:35 AM

Quote from: CBStew on January 15, 2013, 11:30:46 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:16:54 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

Meh.

Bring on Trestman the Jew and let's do this.

Marv Levy?

Trestman is a Jewish man.

So pen thought Toub would interview for the bears HC job, get turned down, then remain on the staff to work for the guy he was passed over for? That feels about right.

Quote from: BH on January 15, 2013, 11:48:32 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:36:35 AM

Quote from: CBStew on January 15, 2013, 11:30:46 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:16:54 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

Meh.

Bring on Trestman the Jew and let's do this.

Marv Levy?

Trestman is a Jewish man.

So pen thought Toub would interview for the bears HC job, get turned down, then remain on the staff to work for the guy he was passed over for? That feels about right.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 15, 2013, 11:56:31 AM

Quote from: BH on January 15, 2013, 11:48:32 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:36:35 AM

Quote from: CBStew on January 15, 2013, 11:30:46 AM

Quote from: Slaky on January 15, 2013, 11:16:54 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 15, 2013, 11:11:23 AM
Dave Toub leaving Bears to join Chiefs.

This doesn't feel like good news for Bears fans.  (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/report-dave-toub-leaving-bears/#.UPWLOFgjW6I.twitter)

Meh.

Bring on Trestman the Jew and let's do this.

Marv Levy?

Trestman is a Jewish man.

So pen thought Toub would interview for the bears HC job, get turned down, then remain on the staff to work for the guy he was passed over for? That feels about right.

How would that have been worse than joining the Chiefs sans promotion?

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 16, 2013, 06:04:52 AM
Trestman huh?  Is this the canadian guy?  Great hire Emery.  

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The Bears hired Trestman thinking he can fix Jay Cutler when Cutler is unfixable. Cutler always will be up and down, great one minute -- throwing multiple picks the next. Nothing is going to change that. Cutler never will be an elite thrower because his head isn't screwed on right. Unless Trestman is a therapist or hypnotist Cutler will be Cutler.

Cutler is a coach killer and Trestman is next up on the chopping block.

Quote from: PenFoe on January 16, 2013, 10:03:43 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 16, 2013, 06:04:52 AM
Trestman huh?  Is this the canadian guy?  Great hire Emery.  

I've got no idea if this is a good hire, it's certainly a curious hire, considering he's been out of the NFL so long and most of us probably had never heard of him prior to 2-3 weeks ago.

That said...holy shit.  (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/21563377/the-bears-hire-of-marc-trestman-puzzling-at-best)

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The Bears hired Trestman thinking he can fix Jay Cutler when Cutler is unfixable. Cutler always will be up and down, great one minute -- throwing multiple picks the next. Nothing is going to change that. Cutler never will be an elite thrower because his head isn't screwed on right. Unless Trestman is a therapist or hypnotist Cutler will be Cutler.

Cutler is a coach killer and Trestman is next up on the chopping block.

Honestly, are the Bears so firmly committed to Cutler (now under both a GM and a coach with no real loyalties to him) that they wouldn't move on from him if both of them thought he wasn't the answer?  I just don't understand why Trestman is automatically going to be unsuccessful if Cutler proves not to be the guy.

Quote from: Armchair_QB on January 16, 2013, 10:36:52 AM
Trestman's offense also works better when it doesn't have five turnstyles on the offensive line. They've still got to address that issue.

Quote from: Armchair_QB on January 16, 2013, 10:36:52 AM
Trestman's offense also works better when it doesn't have five turnstyles on the offensive line. They've still got to address that issue.

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 16, 2013, 10:11:19 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 16, 2013, 10:03:43 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 16, 2013, 06:04:52 AM
Trestman huh?  Is this the canadian guy?  Great hire Emery.  

I've got no idea if this is a good hire, it's certainly a curious hire, considering he's been out of the NFL so long and most of us probably had never heard of him prior to 2-3 weeks ago.

That said...holy shit.  (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/21563377/the-bears-hire-of-marc-trestman-puzzling-at-best)

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The Bears hired Trestman thinking he can fix Jay Cutler when Cutler is unfixable. Cutler always will be up and down, great one minute -- throwing multiple picks the next. Nothing is going to change that. Cutler never will be an elite thrower because his head isn't screwed on right. Unless Trestman is a therapist or hypnotist Cutler will be Cutler.

Cutler is a coach killer and Trestman is next up on the chopping block.

Honestly, are the Bears so firmly committed to Cutler (now under both a GM and a coach with no real loyalties to him) that they wouldn't move on from him if both of them thought he wasn't the answer?  I just don't understand why Trestman is automatically going to be unsuccessful if Cutler proves not to be the guy.

Cutler's deal expires after 2014. If he doesn't play well enough to earn new paper this year, they'll move on. Trestman made an MVP out of Rich Gannon in Oakland so if he can't maximize Cutler's potential, then nobody can. But Trestman's offenses in SF, Oakland and even Detroit and Arizona were beyond anything the Bears have ever experienced. The plan is to build that here with Trestman. If Cutler isn't the guy, they'll find the next guy and hope Trestman will win with him. If that doesn't happen, then Emstink is going to be gone. That's how this NFL thing is done, according to the internets.

Quote from: thehawk on January 16, 2013, 11:06:47 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 16, 2013, 10:11:19 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 16, 2013, 10:03:43 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 16, 2013, 06:04:52 AM
Trestman huh?  Is this the canadian guy?  Great hire Emery.  

I've got no idea if this is a good hire, it's certainly a curious hire, considering he's been out of the NFL so long and most of us probably had never heard of him prior to 2-3 weeks ago.

That said...holy shit.  (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/21563377/the-bears-hire-of-marc-trestman-puzzling-at-best)

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The Bears hired Trestman thinking he can fix Jay Cutler when Cutler is unfixable. Cutler always will be up and down, great one minute -- throwing multiple picks the next. Nothing is going to change that. Cutler never will be an elite thrower because his head isn't screwed on right. Unless Trestman is a therapist or hypnotist Cutler will be Cutler.

Cutler is a coach killer and Trestman is next up on the chopping block.

Honestly, are the Bears so firmly committed to Cutler (now under both a GM and a coach with no real loyalties to him) that they wouldn't move on from him if both of them thought he wasn't the answer?  I just don't understand why Trestman is automatically going to be unsuccessful if Cutler proves not to be the guy.

Cutler's deal expires after 2014. If he doesn't play well enough to earn new paper this year, they'll move on. Trestman made an MVP out of Rich Gannon in Oakland so if he can't maximize Cutler's potential, then nobody can. But Trestman's offenses in SF, Oakland and even Detroit and Arizona were beyond anything the Bears have ever experienced. The plan is to build that here with Trestman. If Cutler isn't the guy, they'll find the next guy and hope Trestman will win with him. If that doesn't happen, then Emstink is going to be gone. That's how this NFL thing is done, according to the internets.

Trestman was also also Cutler's "consultant" between college and being drafted, so there is that.  This is a pretty gutsy pick for Emstink, because he has to know if Trestman fails he's certain to be lumped in with the Mustachioed Coach Who Must Not Be Named by the fan base.  On the other hand, this could be like picking a mustachioed guy from the CBA to take your NBA team from point B to Point C.   Guess I will wait a while and see how it plays out.

Quote from: thehawk on January 16, 2013, 11:06:47 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 16, 2013, 10:11:19 AM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 16, 2013, 10:03:43 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 16, 2013, 06:04:52 AM
Trestman huh?  Is this the canadian guy?  Great hire Emery.  

I've got no idea if this is a good hire, it's certainly a curious hire, considering he's been out of the NFL so long and most of us probably had never heard of him prior to 2-3 weeks ago.

That said...holy shit.  (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/21563377/the-bears-hire-of-marc-trestman-puzzling-at-best)

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The Bears hired Trestman thinking he can fix Jay Cutler when Cutler is unfixable. Cutler always will be up and down, great one minute -- throwing multiple picks the next. Nothing is going to change that. Cutler never will be an elite thrower because his head isn't screwed on right. Unless Trestman is a therapist or hypnotist Cutler will be Cutler.

Cutler is a coach killer and Trestman is next up on the chopping block.

Honestly, are the Bears so firmly committed to Cutler (now under both a GM and a coach with no real loyalties to him) that they wouldn't move on from him if both of them thought he wasn't the answer?  I just don't understand why Trestman is automatically going to be unsuccessful if Cutler proves not to be the guy.

Cutler's deal expires after 2014. If he doesn't play well enough to earn new paper this year, they'll move on. Trestman made an MVP out of Rich Gannon in Oakland so if he can't maximize Cutler's potential, then nobody can. But Trestman's offenses in SF, Oakland and even Detroit and Arizona were beyond anything the Bears have ever experienced. The plan is to build that here with Trestman. If Cutler isn't the guy, they'll find the next guy and hope Trestman will win with him. If that doesn't happen, then Emstink is going to be gone. That's how this NFL thing is done, according to the internets.

Trestman was also also Cutler's "consultant" between college and being drafted, so there is that.  This is a pretty gutsy pick for Emstink, because he has to know if Trestman fails he's certain to be lumped in with the Mustachioed Coach Who Must Not Be Named by the fan base.  On the other hand, this could be like picking a mustachioed guy from the CBA to take your NBA team from point B to Point C.   Guess I will wait a while and see how it plays out.

Quote from: SKO on January 16, 2013, 01:40:43 PM
Trestman was brought in to give the team a real, competitive offense. Phil Emery obviously thinks the quickest way to do that is by fixing Cutler. Emery's made several comments about the offensive line being the biggest issue and vowing to fix it, so if he fixes that and Trestman can get a good year out of Cutler, that's what they'll do.

If he doesn't, I don't think Emery or Trestman will bring back Cutler in 2014. They've simply decided that in 2013, Cutler is their guy, and they'll do the smartest thing by doing whatever they can to help him succeed. That doesn't mean they can't move on if it fails, or that Trestman will suck if he can't fix Cutler. He'll be given the chance to get his own guy right, then too.

Quote from: PenFoe on January 16, 2013, 02:32:41 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 16, 2013, 01:40:43 PM
Trestman was brought in to give the team a real, competitive offense. Phil Emery obviously thinks the quickest way to do that is by fixing Cutler. Emery's made several comments about the offensive line being the biggest issue and vowing to fix it, so if he fixes that and Trestman can get a good year out of Cutler, that's what they'll do.

If he doesn't, I don't think Emery or Trestman will bring back Cutler in 2014. They've simply decided that in 2013, Cutler is their guy, and they'll do the smartest thing by doing whatever they can to help him succeed. That doesn't mean they can't move on if it fails, or that Trestman will suck if he can't fix Cutler. He'll be given the chance to get his own guy right, then too.

So basically, "What Pen and Pex" said.

You can just copy/paste our posts onto your blog if you want.

Quote from: SKO on January 16, 2013, 02:45:54 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 16, 2013, 02:32:41 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 16, 2013, 01:40:43 PM
Trestman was brought in to give the team a real, competitive offense. Phil Emery obviously thinks the quickest way to do that is by fixing Cutler. Emery's made several comments about the offensive line being the biggest issue and vowing to fix it, so if he fixes that and Trestman can get a good year out of Cutler, that's what they'll do.

If he doesn't, I don't think Emery or Trestman will bring back Cutler in 2014. They've simply decided that in 2013, Cutler is their guy, and they'll do the smartest thing by doing whatever they can to help him succeed. That doesn't mean they can't move on if it fails, or that Trestman will suck if he can't fix Cutler. He'll be given the chance to get his own guy right, then too.

So basically, "What Pen and Pex" said.

You can just copy/paste our posts onto your blog if you want.

Apex wrote for my blog once. He said Devin Hester would have ten touchdowns in one year and was never heard from again.

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 16, 2013, 10:45:42 AM

Quote from: Armchair_QB on January 16, 2013, 10:36:52 AM
Trestman's offense also works better when it doesn't have five turnstyles on the offensive line. They've still got to address that issue.

And once they do that I can get to work on my Hester Projections for 2013.

Quote from: SKO on January 16, 2013, 02:59:27 PM
There's no way Jerry Angelo takes a chance on a guy like Trestman, knowing it could cost him his career if it fails.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 16, 2013, 03:13:19 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 16, 2013, 02:59:27 PM
There's no way Jerry Angelo takes a chance on a guy like Trestman, knowing it could cost him his career if it fails.

So, he went with Lovie Smith.  Who cost him his career because it failed.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 16, 2013, 03:13:19 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 16, 2013, 02:59:27 PM
There's no way Jerry Angelo takes a chance on a guy like Trestman, knowing it could cost him his career if it fails.

So, he went with Lovie Smith.  Who cost him his career because it failed.

Quote from: SKO on January 16, 2013, 03:30:40 PM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 16, 2013, 03:13:19 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 16, 2013, 02:59:27 PM
There's no way Jerry Angelo takes a chance on a guy like Trestman, knowing it could cost him his career if it fails.

So, he went with Lovie Smith.  Who cost him his career because it failed.

That makes absolutely zero fucking sense, even for you. If Jerry Angelo got fired because Lovie Smith failed, don't you think they'd have fired Lovie first? Jerry Angelo got fired because he couldn't draft to save his life. I'm not even sure why I'm taking the bait here.

Quote from: BH on January 16, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
So Mante Te'o and his friend made up the whole girlfiend and her dying thing?  (http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax)

Quote from: Brownie on January 16, 2013, 11:48:36 AM
THOSE THAT DIDN'T

(http://images.art.com/images/products/large/10107000/10107644.jpg)

QuoteAccording to Mark Potash of the Chicago Sun-Times, Marinelli could opt for a "fresh start" out of loyalty to Smith (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/17620425-419/bears-defensive-coordinator-rod-marinelli-may-opt-for-fresh-start-elsewhere.html). Trestman is expected to meet with Marinelli and other members of Smith's staff on Thursday to decide who he wants to keep.

Per Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com, "signs point" to Marinelli leaving (https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/291760149276794882) the Bears.

It would be a big blow to a Bears defense that was among the league's best all season. Chicago finished the season as the fifth-ranked defense and led the league with 44 turnovers.

According to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, Dallas Cowboys new defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin is hopeful to get (https://twitter.com/BradBiggs/status/291752203901882371) Marinelli to join his staff in Dallas.

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 17, 2013, 08:43:26 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/17/rod-marinelli-could-be-leaving-chicago/

QuoteAccording to Mark Potash of the Chicago Sun-Times, Marinelli could opt for a "fresh start" out of loyalty to Smith (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/17620425-419/bears-defensive-coordinator-rod-marinelli-may-opt-for-fresh-start-elsewhere.html). Trestman is expected to meet with Marinelli and other members of Smith's staff on Thursday to decide who he wants to keep.

Per Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com, "signs point" to Marinelli leaving (https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/291760149276794882) the Bears.

It would be a big blow to a Bears defense that was among the league's best all season. Chicago finished the season as the fifth-ranked defense and led the league with 44 turnovers.

According to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, Dallas Cowboys new defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin is hopeful to get (https://twitter.com/BradBiggs/status/291752203901882371) Marinelli to join his staff in Dallas.

So, with a year left on his contract, he's "likely" to leave a team that wants him to stay, for a demotion to LB coach, out of a sense of loyalty to a man who's probably taking 2013 off himself?

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 17, 2013, 08:43:26 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/17/rod-marinelli-could-be-leaving-chicago/

QuoteAccording to Mark Potash of the Chicago Sun-Times, Marinelli could opt for a "fresh start" out of loyalty to Smith (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/17620425-419/bears-defensive-coordinator-rod-marinelli-may-opt-for-fresh-start-elsewhere.html). Trestman is expected to meet with Marinelli and other members of Smith's staff on Thursday to decide who he wants to keep.

Per Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com, "signs point" to Marinelli leaving (https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/291760149276794882) the Bears.

It would be a big blow to a Bears defense that was among the league's best all season. Chicago finished the season as the fifth-ranked defense and led the league with 44 turnovers.

According to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, Dallas Cowboys new defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin is hopeful to get (https://twitter.com/BradBiggs/status/291752203901882371) Marinelli to join his staff in Dallas.

So, with a year left on his contract, he's "likely" to leave a team that wants him to stay, for a demotion to LB coach, out of a sense of loyalty to a man who's probably taking 2013 off himself?

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 17, 2013, 09:12:34 AM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 17, 2013, 08:43:26 AM
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/17/rod-marinelli-could-be-leaving-chicago/

QuoteAccording to Mark Potash of the Chicago Sun-Times, Marinelli could opt for a "fresh start" out of loyalty to Smith (http://www.suntimes.com/sports/17620425-419/bears-defensive-coordinator-rod-marinelli-may-opt-for-fresh-start-elsewhere.html). Trestman is expected to meet with Marinelli and other members of Smith's staff on Thursday to decide who he wants to keep.

Per Jason La Canfora of CBSSports.com, "signs point" to Marinelli leaving (https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/291760149276794882) the Bears.

It would be a big blow to a Bears defense that was among the league's best all season. Chicago finished the season as the fifth-ranked defense and led the league with 44 turnovers.

According to Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, Dallas Cowboys new defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin is hopeful to get (https://twitter.com/BradBiggs/status/291752203901882371) Marinelli to join his staff in Dallas.

So, with a year left on his contract, he's "likely" to leave a team that wants him to stay, for a demotion to LB coach, out of a sense of loyalty to a man who's probably taking 2013 off himself?

It would be a convenient alibi in case Trestman decides not to keep him. They could mutually part ways and who cares what Marinelli says about the reason behind it. Marinelli has to know that they would keep him for one "transition" year, running essentially Smith and Marinelli's system while Emstink and Trestman decide what defense they will ultimately run - meanwhile letting go as many players drafted for the old system as possible to make room for new dudes. So this isn't as clear as choosing a coordinator position over an opportunity elsewhere. Marinelli is one of the most respected defensive position coaches in the game from all I've heard. His stock is higher now than it was after Lovie picked him up off the Detroit scrap heap. He should go where he's wanted unless he really likes coaching these players and being treated like a pariah by the new regime.

Quote from: SKO on January 17, 2013, 09:30:01 AM
DPD, but there'd have been no reason for Emery to extend Lance Briggs last year if he had any hint of possibly changing schemes in the future, because there's a player who'd be functionally useless in a 3-4. Unless people are still overreacting to Shea McClellin (and Emery himself said he still saw him as a defensive end after he fired Lovie), there's zero evidence that Emery's ever thought for a second of switching defensive schemes.

I also think it's absurd that Marinelli stayed in Tampa with Kiffin when they brought in Gruden after dumping Dungy and yet he'd consider leaving Chicago because they fired Lovie.

Quote from: BH on January 16, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
So Mante Te'o and his friend made up the whole girlfiend and her dying thing?  (http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax)

Quote from: PenFoe on January 17, 2013, 02:13:48 PM
Fine, if no one else is going to do it.

Trestman's slightly too old for Yeti-bait daughters.  (http://www.chicagonow.com/mayor-daily/2013/01/trestman-daughters-hot-123/)

19 and 21.

Quote from: Fork on January 17, 2013, 10:46:04 AM

Quote from: BH on January 16, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
So Mante Te'o and his friend made up the whole girlfiend and her dying thing?  (http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax)

With the 9th pick, the New York Jets select...

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 17, 2013, 04:02:28 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 17, 2013, 10:46:04 AM

Quote from: BH on January 16, 2013, 04:03:44 PM
So Mante Te'o and his friend made up the whole girlfiend and her dying thing?  (http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax)

With the 9th pick, the New York Jets select...

Are you in syndication now? (http://nymag.com/daily/sports/2013/01/questions-that-manti-teo-needs-to-answer-today.html)

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Quote from: Gilgamesh on January 17, 2013, 10:26:15 AM
Per the Score, it's official that Marinelli is leaving.

Quote from: PenFoe on January 17, 2013, 02:13:48 PM
Fine, if no one else is going to do it.

Trestman's slightly too old for Yeti-bait daughters.  (http://www.chicagonow.com/mayor-daily/2013/01/trestman-daughters-hot-123/)

19 and 21.

Quote from: Fork on January 18, 2013, 09:14:48 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 17, 2013, 02:13:48 PM
Fine, if no one else is going to do it.

Trestman's slightly too old for Yeti-bait daughters.  (http://www.chicagonow.com/mayor-daily/2013/01/trestman-daughters-hot-123/)

19 and 21.

They look like solid 8s, but the promise of free Bears tickets pushes them over 9.

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 18, 2013, 09:47:12 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 18, 2013, 09:14:48 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 17, 2013, 02:13:48 PM
Fine, if no one else is going to do it.

Trestman's slightly too old for Yeti-bait daughters.  (http://www.chicagonow.com/mayor-daily/2013/01/trestman-daughters-hot-123/)

19 and 21.

They look like solid 8s, but the promise of free Bears tickets pushes them over 9.

Which is surprising, since Marc looks a little like James Carville with thicker eyebrows and some more hair.

Quote from: Yeti on January 18, 2013, 10:10:03 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 18, 2013, 09:47:12 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 18, 2013, 09:14:48 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 17, 2013, 02:13:48 PM
Fine, if no one else is going to do it.

Trestman's slightly too old for Yeti-bait daughters.  (http://www.chicagonow.com/mayor-daily/2013/01/trestman-daughters-hot-123/)

19 and 21.

They look like solid 8s, but the promise of free Bears tickets pushes them over 9.

Which is surprising, since Marc looks a little like James Carville with thicker eyebrows and some more hair.

Is there anyone Trestman doesn't look like?

Quote from: PenFoe on January 16, 2013, 10:03:43 AM

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 16, 2013, 06:04:52 AM
Trestman huh?  Is this the canadian guy?  Great hire Emery.  

I've got no idea if this is a good hire, it's certainly a curious hire, considering he's been out of the NFL so long and most of us probably had never heard of him prior to 2-3 weeks ago.

That said...holy shit.  (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/mike-freeman/21563377/the-bears-hire-of-marc-trestman-puzzling-at-best)

Quote
The Bears hired Trestman thinking he can fix Jay Cutler when Cutler is unfixable. Cutler always will be up and down, great one minute -- throwing multiple picks the next. Nothing is going to change that. Cutler never will be an elite thrower because his head isn't screwed on right. Unless Trestman is a therapist or hypnotist Cutler will be Cutler.

Cutler is a coach killer and Trestman is next up on the chopping block.

Honestly, are the Bears so firmly committed to Cutler (now under both a GM and a coach with no real loyalties to him) that they wouldn't move on from him if both of them thought he wasn't the answer?  I just don't understand why Trestman is automatically going to be unsuccessful if Cutler proves not to be the guy.

Quote from: Yeti on January 18, 2013, 10:10:03 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 18, 2013, 09:47:12 PM

Quote from: Fork on January 18, 2013, 09:14:48 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 17, 2013, 02:13:48 PM
Fine, if no one else is going to do it.

Trestman's slightly too old for Yeti-bait daughters.  (http://www.chicagonow.com/mayor-daily/2013/01/trestman-daughters-hot-123/)

19 and 21.

They look like solid 8s, but the promise of free Bears tickets pushes them over 9.

Which is surprising, since Marc looks a little like James Carville with thicker eyebrows and some more hair.

Is there anyone Trestman doesn't look like?

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 20, 2013, 09:22:10 PM
I for one welcome our Harbaugh overlords.

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 21, 2013, 01:31:20 PM
I'm already sick of Harbaughs and will avoid this Super Bowl for as long as I possibly can - which is until somebody lines up a shit load of fattening food in close proximity to a television showing it.

Quote from: CBStew on January 21, 2013, 12:32:34 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on January 20, 2013, 09:22:10 PM
I for one welcome our Harbaugh overlords.

That was a really bad call on the Falcons' pass reception with two minutes to go.  But I was so pleased that it was made so that I could watch JIM Harbaugh jump up and down, throwing one of his patented tantrums.  I now realize that the reason I watch 49er games is to see how mishugah this guy is.

Quote from: SKO on January 21, 2013, 03:47:13 PM
Jim Harbaugh can yell and scream and act like a fucking maniac all he wants. I wish he was the head coach of the Bears.

Quote from: PenFoe on January 21, 2013, 04:03:29 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 21, 2013, 03:47:13 PM
Jim Harbaugh can yell and scream and act like a fucking maniac all he wants. I wish he was the head coach of the Bears.

If you root for any team other than the Patriots, this should probably be your opinion.

Quote from: SKO on January 21, 2013, 04:20:10 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 21, 2013, 04:03:29 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 21, 2013, 03:47:13 PM
Jim Harbaugh can yell and scream and act like a fucking maniac all he wants. I wish he was the head coach of the Bears.

If you root for any team other than the Patriots, this should probably be your opinion.

I mean, it certainly helps that he inherited a ludicrously talented, underperforming defense and Trent Baalke seems to be a fine GM after the Anthony Davis/Iupati/Aldon Smith picks, but what he's done with Alex Smith, and then Kaepernick after what he did at Stanford...the man might strangle kittens in his basement each night for all I know or care, but he can coach a football team.

Quote from: Internet Apex on January 21, 2013, 04:23:34 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 21, 2013, 04:20:10 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on January 21, 2013, 04:03:29 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 21, 2013, 03:47:13 PM
Jim Harbaugh can yell and scream and act like a fucking maniac all he wants. I wish he was the head coach of the Bears.

If you root for any team other than the Patriots, this should probably be your opinion.

I mean, it certainly helps that he inherited a ludicrously talented, underperforming defense and Trent Baalke seems to be a fine GM after the Anthony Davis/Iupati/Aldon Smith picks, but what he's done with Alex Smith, and then Kaepernick after what he did at Stanford...the man might strangle kittens in his basement each night for all I know or care, but he can coach a football team.

But if he's not going to coach the Bears, might as well launch him and his brother into the sun.

Quote from: SKO on January 21, 2013, 04:26:57 PM
... because he'll rage and rage while Trestman just pats his combover...

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 21, 2013, 04:54:59 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 21, 2013, 04:26:57 PM
... because he'll rage and rage while Trestman just pats his combover...

I don't think "comb-over" does that 'do justice. It's more of a comb-back or something. With plugs.

Quote from: R-V on January 24, 2013, 12:54:11 PM

Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 21, 2013, 04:54:59 PM

Quote from: SKO on January 21, 2013, 04:26:57 PM
... because he'll rage and rage while Trestman just pats his combover...

I don't think "comb-over" does that 'do justice. It's more of a comb-back or something. With plugs.

Has a Stan Sitwell comparison been made yet on this werbsite?

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on February 10, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
The Steelers are apparently poised to let OT Max Starks walk.  He started every game for them last year and was their best lineman.

The Bears could do...and have been doing...a lot worse at the position.  This could be a FA signing that would make a lot of fucking sense in terms of protecting Cutler.

Quote from: SKO on February 11, 2013, 12:47:00 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on February 10, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
The Steelers are apparently poised to let OT Max Starks walk.  He started every game for them last year and was their best lineman.

The Bears could do...and have been doing...a lot worse at the position.  This could be a FA signing that would make a lot of fucking sense in terms of protecting Cutler.

He's 31, injury prone, and this year was well out of line with his normal career performance. If he's cheap, fine, they could do worse, but there are a number of tackles at either position who are likely to be available this year that are younger and have been more consistent performers.

Branden Albert or Vollmer would make more sense as guys young enough that you could lock down the tackle position for the next 4-5 years and aren't coming off a potential aberration of a season.

They also don't need to get a LT, necessarily. Webb, with a -0.7 grade from PFF, was a league average tackle. If they got a stalwart RT that would free up a tight end or RB to help Webb from time to time, that would also be an acceptable upgrade, and in might leave more cap room to get an upgrade at guard or center.

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 11, 2013, 01:23:16 PM

Quote from: SKO on February 11, 2013, 12:47:00 PM

Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on February 10, 2013, 11:43:53 AM
The Steelers are apparently poised to let OT Max Starks walk.  He started every game for them last year and was their best lineman.

The Bears could do...and have been doing...a lot worse at the position.  This could be a FA signing that would make a lot of fucking sense in terms of protecting Cutler.

He's 31, injury prone, and this year was well out of line with his normal career performance. If he's cheap, fine, they could do worse, but there are a number of tackles at either position who are likely to be available this year that are younger and have been more consistent performers.

Branden Albert or Vollmer would make more sense as guys young enough that you could lock down the tackle position for the next 4-5 years and aren't coming off a potential aberration of a season.

They also don't need to get a LT, necessarily. Webb, with a -0.7 grade from PFF, was a league average tackle. If they got a stalwart RT that would free up a tight end or RB to help Webb from time to time, that would also be an acceptable upgrade, and in might leave more cap room to get an upgrade at guard or center.

Whoever they get, had better have some sort of Pittsburgh connection, though. Otherwise...

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 12, 2013, 10:24:13 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

WRONG THREAD!!!!

Quote from: Eli on February 12, 2013, 10:26:35 AM

Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 12, 2013, 10:24:13 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

WRONG THREAD!!!!

NO, CHUCK

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Feel sad for Johnny Knox and the way his career ended. Terrible, terrible injury.

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Feel sad for Johnny Knox and the way his career ended. Terrible, terrible injury.

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 12, 2013, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Feel sad for Johnny Knox and the way his career ended. Terrible, terrible injury.

It may have ended his career, but given what we now know about CTE and brain injuries, it may have extended his life.

Quote from: Slaky on February 12, 2013, 11:32:07 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 12, 2013, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Feel sad for Johnny Knox and the way his career ended. Terrible, terrible injury.

It may have ended his career, but given what we now know about CTE and brain injuries, it may have extended his life.

What about spine damage

Quote from: Slaky on February 12, 2013, 11:32:07 AM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 12, 2013, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Feel sad for Johnny Knox and the way his career ended. Terrible, terrible injury.

It may have ended his career, but given what we now know about CTE and brain injuries, it may have extended his life.

What about spine damage

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 12, 2013, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Feel sad for Johnny Knox and the way his career ended. Terrible, terrible injury.

It may have ended his career, but given what we now know about CTE and brain injuries, it may have extended his life.

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 12:11:57 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 12, 2013, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Feel sad for Johnny Knox and the way his career ended. Terrible, terrible injury.

It may have ended his career, but given what we now know about CTE and brain injuries, it may have extended his life.

Not to worry. The only thing we all belong to is on the case, and will help eliminate the scourge that is tackle football. (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-02-11/news/ct-met-football-concussions-20130212_1_high-school-football-practice-state-lawmaker-chad-hetlet)

Quote from: Fork on February 12, 2013, 12:20:01 PM

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 12:11:57 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 12, 2013, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Feel sad for Johnny Knox and the way his career ended. Terrible, terrible injury.

It may have ended his career, but given what we now know about CTE and brain injuries, it may have extended his life.

Not to worry. The only thing we all belong to is on the case, and will help eliminate the scourge that is tackle football. (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-02-11/news/ct-met-football-concussions-20130212_1_high-school-football-practice-state-lawmaker-chad-hetlet)

Intrepid Reader: Deion Sanders

Tackling is overrated.

QuoteWhile scientists in recent years have found evidence of lasting neurological damage in some people who suffered football-related concussions, skeptics say the links have yet to be proved definitively.

Quote from: R-V on February 12, 2013, 12:46:11 PM

Quote from: Fork on February 12, 2013, 12:20:01 PM

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 12:11:57 PM

Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 12, 2013, 11:13:18 AM

Quote from: Brownie on February 12, 2013, 10:55:44 AM

Quote from: Internet Apex on February 12, 2013, 10:21:25 AM
First Campana and now Johnny Knox (http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-terminate-contract-of-Johnny-Knox/d52ce519-89f5-43bb-bb3c-5a6c81271f56). Sad, sad week for the meatbreathers.

Feel sad for Johnny Knox and the way his career ended. Terrible, terrible injury.

It may have ended his career, but given what we now know about CTE and brain injuries, it may have extended his life.

Not to worry. The only thing we all belong to is on the case, and will help eliminate the scourge that is tackle football. (http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-02-11/news/ct-met-football-concussions-20130212_1_high-school-football-practice-state-lawmaker-chad-hetlet)

Intrepid Reader: Deion Sanders

Tackling is overrated.

From TJ's link:

QuoteWhile scientists in recent years have found evidence of lasting neurological damage in some people who suffered football-related concussions, skeptics say the links have yet to be proved definitively.

Great reporting there, Tribune. Mayhaps you could tell us who these unnamed skeptics are and the basis for their skepticism?