I saw this link on TCR. Send all royalties their way.
But when Brad Penny and Maddux were teammates on the Dodgers, during the last two months of 2006, they had a conversation one day that led Penny to reach a stunning conclusion: This guy knows my stuff better than I do. It was eerie, really, how easily Maddux dissected Penny's repertoire and suggested ways to maximize it. Penny, figuring he'd take advantage of the situation, asked Maddux to call a game for him against the Cubs. And so, on the night of Sept. 13, Penny glanced into the dugout before every delivery and found Maddux, who signaled the next pitch by looking toward different parts of the ballpark. Penny threw seven scoreless innings with no walks and beat the Cubs 6-0. "Maddux probably won't tell you that story," Penny says. He's right. (http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/2008/04/great-greg-maddux-story.html)
I did some research on the lineup Penny was facing. I think Dusty Baker and Jim Hendry probably deserve some credit from Penny, too.
QuotePierre cf
Theriot 2b
Ramirez 3b
Jones rf
Murton lf
Mabry 1b
Izturis ss
Blanco c
Guzman p
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 15, 2008, 09:09:38 AM
I saw this link on TCR. Send all royalties their way.
But when Brad Penny and Maddux were teammates on the Dodgers, during the last two months of 2006, they had a conversation one day that led Penny to reach a stunning conclusion: This guy knows my stuff better than I do. It was eerie, really, how easily Maddux dissected Penny's repertoire and suggested ways to maximize it. Penny, figuring he'd take advantage of the situation, asked Maddux to call a game for him against the Cubs. And so, on the night of Sept. 13, Penny glanced into the dugout before every delivery and found Maddux, who signaled the next pitch by looking toward different parts of the ballpark. Penny threw seven scoreless innings with no walks and beat the Cubs 6-0. "Maddux probably won't tell you that story," Penny says. He's right. (http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/2008/04/great-greg-maddux-story.html)
I did some research on the lineup Penny was facing. I think Dusty Baker and Jim Hendry probably deserve some credit from Penny, too.
QuotePierre cf
Theriot 2b
Ramirez 3b
Jones rf
Murton lf
Mabry 1b
Izturis ss
Blanco c
Guzman p
2006 sucked doberman sack. I say that we never speak of it again.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 15, 2008, 09:27:08 AM
Quote from: Three times a JD on April 15, 2008, 09:09:38 AM
I saw this link on TCR. Send all royalties their way.
But when Brad Penny and Maddux were teammates on the Dodgers, during the last two months of 2006, they had a conversation one day that led Penny to reach a stunning conclusion: This guy knows my stuff better than I do. It was eerie, really, how easily Maddux dissected Penny's repertoire and suggested ways to maximize it. Penny, figuring he'd take advantage of the situation, asked Maddux to call a game for him against the Cubs. And so, on the night of Sept. 13, Penny glanced into the dugout before every delivery and found Maddux, who signaled the next pitch by looking toward different parts of the ballpark. Penny threw seven scoreless innings with no walks and beat the Cubs 6-0. "Maddux probably won't tell you that story," Penny says. He's right. (http://6-4-2.blogspot.com/2008/04/great-greg-maddux-story.html)
I did some research on the lineup Penny was facing. I think Dusty Baker and Jim Hendry probably deserve some credit from Penny, too.
QuotePierre cf
Theriot 2b
Ramirez 3b
Jones rf
Murton lf
Mabry 1b
Izturis ss
Blanco c
Guzman p
2006 sucked doberman sack. I say that we never speak of it again.
What 2006 season? MLB canceled the 2005 and 2006 seasons.
Didn't Greg call a shutout for somebody during his first stint with the Cubs? I forget who (which kind of kills the story, and knowing the Cubs it probably wasn't a shutout, but a 2-1 loss) but I remember reading somewhere that the catcher (Wrona, maybe) looked into the dugout for every pitch.
It always surprises me to hear Maddux speak so kindly about Rothschild.
Is there any question that the Cubs should backup the cash truck and pay this man a stupid sum of money to be pitching coach when he hangs em' up? Assuming, of course, he doesn't accept the gig in San Diego.
Maddux in his prime had very good stuff. But it wasn't Pedro, Clemens, Bob Gibson nasty sort of shit. His mental approach is what sets him apart. He will win over 350 games barely being able to hit 90 on the radar gun. If I'm a GM, THAT'S the guy I want teaching my pitchers.
THAT'S the guy the Cubs need to pay.
More...
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3336514
QuoteInside the man's head resides the most comprehensive history of the most essential confrontation in sports: pitcher vs. hitter. Maddux sees things nobody else sees, senses things nobody else senses. The examples are legendary, almost mythical. He can speed-read a batter's stance—a little more open, a few inches up in the box—in the middle of his windup, allowing him to change his grip from changeup to fastball in the time it takes him to lift his leg. That's why, throughout his career, Maddux has steered clear of certain catchers, because they couldn't think fast enough to keep up with him. Padres catchers Josh Bard and Michael Barrett will sometimes go an entire game without giving him a sign. A little tap on the thigh for location is all that's necessary.
(Something seems amiss here.)
QuotePro scouts and college coaches started calling and showing up at the Maddux house during Mike's senior year. As one of the scouts was leaving one night, the boys' father, Dave Maddux, shook the guy's hand and said, "You'll be back for the little one."
QuoteWith the Cubs, the story goes, Maddux once sat in the dugout and watched José Hernández of the Dodgers set up in the batter's box. After two pitches, Maddux turned to the guys around him and said, "We might have to call an ambulance for the first base coach." On the next pitch, Hernández whipped a shot that hit first base coach John Shelby in the chest.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espnmag/story?id=3337786
QuoteGreg Maddux is famous for his inability to hold runners on base. It's about the only thing he hasn't done well in his career, and last year the problem extended through the entire Padres starting rotation. For instance, runners were 44 for 44 against 6'10" Chris Young.
It was a problem, and as the season wore on it became a huge topic for discussion in San Diego. They were stealing on Jake Peavy, and Maddux, and of course Young.
So one day Maddux told Young to forget about the runners, that it wasn't the big deal everybody else was making it out to be. He told Young, "Only 17 percent of runners who steal second go on to score."
Maddux made another point: If opposing players have a low batting average against a pitcher—as is the case with Young—then it makes sense to go after the hitter and not worry about the runners.
The next time Young was interviewed about all those stolen bases, he said, "It's like Greg says, only 17 percent of the runners who steal second go on to score."
This 17 percent solution became something of a mantra in the second half of the season for the Padres. Why? Because Maddux said so, that's why.
Nobody bothered to check the stats; they just repeated Maddux's assertions. When I was in San Diego last September, a savvy and wry reporter for the San Diego Union-Tribune told me, "I've got a feeling Maddux just made up that 17 percent thing to take the heat off these guys. It gives them something to say, and everybody just nods because it's Maddux."
Then a guy in San Diego who writes a blog by the name of SDPads1 decided to check it out. He went through every 2007 boxscore and discovered that slightly more than 40 percent of the base-stealers eventually scored against the Padres.
He broke it down further and further—eliminating from the equation guys who would have scored anyway—eventually whittling the number down closer to Maddux's estimate. But the truth was, 17 percent wasn't exactly science.
There was no arguing about one point, though: It was classic Maddux.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 15, 2008, 10:39:25 AM
Is there any question that the Cubs should backup the cash truck and pay this man a stupid sum of money to be pitching coach when he hangs em' up? Assuming, of course, he doesn't accept the gig in San Diego.
Maddux in his prime had very good stuff. But it wasn't Pedro, Clemens, Bob Gibson nasty sort of shit. His mental approach is what sets him apart. He will win over 350 games barely being able to hit 90 on the radar gun. If I'm a GM, THAT'S the guy I want teaching my pitchers.
THAT'S the guy the Cubs need to pay.
+1
+3 if the cash truck runs over and kills Rothschild while backing up.
Quote from: Buck Naked on April 15, 2008, 07:03:20 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 15, 2008, 10:39:25 AM
Is there any question that the Cubs should backup the cash truck and pay this man a stupid sum of money to be pitching coach when he hangs em' up? Assuming, of course, he doesn't accept the gig in San Diego.
Maddux in his prime had very good stuff. But it wasn't Pedro, Clemens, Bob Gibson nasty sort of shit. His mental approach is what sets him apart. He will win over 350 games barely being able to hit 90 on the radar gun. If I'm a GM, THAT'S the guy I want teaching my pitchers.
THAT'S the guy the Cubs need to pay.
+1
+3 if the cash truck runs over and kills Rothschild while backing up then drives Rothschild to help out in Cincy.
Reunion'd.
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Shut up Paul, you're a douche.
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
That's what should go on Greg's plaque in Cooperstown.
Quote from: thehawk on April 15, 2008, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
That's what should go on Greg's plaque in Cooperstown.
I've been wondering what to get tattooed on my taint. Problem solved.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 15, 2008, 10:21:38 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 15, 2008, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
That's what should go on Greg's plaque in Cooperstown.
I've been wondering what to get tattooed on my taint. Problem solved.
Such a dirty word...tattoo.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 15, 2008, 10:21:38 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 15, 2008, 10:13:53 PM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
That's what should go on Greg's plaque in Cooperstown.
I've been wondering what to get tattooed on my taint. Problem solved.
In that region, a number of these words might come off as instructions, Pex.
Do you really want the ladies to think you're that bossy? Whatever happened to old fashioned romance?
(Also: Apex either has a comically out-sized taint or an extremely steady-handed tattoo artist.)
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 07:08:17 AM
One time, Greg Maddux tricked me into giving access to my bank account to a prince from Ghana. That asshole left me high and dry.
I'm still waiting for the Viagra I ordered from Maddux.
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Is it hard to type when you're that full of shit?
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 07:21:18 AM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 07:08:17 AM
One time, Greg Maddux tricked me into giving access to my bank account to a prince from Ghana. That asshole left me high and dry.
I'm still waiting for the Viagra I ordered from Maddux.
In 2004, Maddux tricked me into voting for Bush.
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Is it hard to type when you're that full of shit?
A number of years ago I went to my first Cubs game, and I got to see Maddux warm up in the bullpen before the first pitch. I was pissed at my dad because he'd left to go get some nachos and cheese, so he missed it. Anyway, after he finished warming up and my dad got back, he walked close to me and I yelled "Hey Maddux, what do I need to do to become a major league pitcher?"
I swear to God this is true... he looked up at me and gave me this wry smile and he said "Kid, all you gotta do is ..." and then he winced and let out this tremendous fart. "Whoa! Sorry about that, kid. Hey, you gonna eat those nachos?"
Then he took my nachos and left. Consequently, I always thought that nachos had something to do with being a good pitcher. I got fat, but I never pitched in the majors.
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 08:11:32 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Is it hard to type when you're that full of shit?
A number of years ago I went to my first Cubs game, and I got to see Maddux warm up in the bullpen before the first pitch. I was pissed at my dad because he'd left to go get some nachos and cheese, so he missed it. Anyway, after he finished warming up and my dad got back, he walked close to me and I yelled "Hey Maddux, what do I need to do to become a major league pitcher?"
I swear to God this is true... he looked up at me and gave me this wry smile and he said "Kid, all you gotta do is ..." and then he winced and let out this tremendous fart. "Whoa! Sorry about that, kid. Hey, you gonna eat those nachos?"
Then he took my nachos and left. Consequently, I always thought that nachos had something to do with being a good pitcher. I got fat, but I never pitched in the majors.
But you have a girlfriend.
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 08:11:32 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Is it hard to type when you're that full of shit?
A number of years ago I went to my first Cubs game, and I got to see Maddux warm up in the bullpen before the first pitch. I was pissed at my dad because he'd left to go get some nachos and cheese, so he missed it. Anyway, after he finished warming up and my dad got back, he walked close to me and I yelled "Hey Maddux, what do I need to do to become a major league pitcher?"
I swear to God this is true... he looked up at me and gave me this wry smile and he said "Kid, all you gotta do is ..." and then he winced and let out this tremendous fart. "Whoa! Sorry about that, kid. Hey, you gonna eat those nachos?"
Then he took my nachos and left. Consequently, I always thought that nachos had something to do with being a good pitcher. I got fat, but I never pitched in the majors.
But you claim to have a girlfriend.
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 09:05:22 AM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 08:11:32 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Is it hard to type when you're that full of shit?
A number of years ago I went to my first Cubs game, and I got to see Maddux warm up in the bullpen before the first pitch. I was pissed at my dad because he'd left to go get some nachos and cheese, so he missed it. Anyway, after he finished warming up and my dad got back, he walked close to me and I yelled "Hey Maddux, what do I need to do to become a major league pitcher?"
I swear to God this is true... he looked up at me and gave me this wry smile and he said "Kid, all you gotta do is ..." and then he winced and let out this tremendous fart. "Whoa! Sorry about that, kid. Hey, you gonna eat those nachos?"
Then he took my nachos and left. Consequently, I always thought that nachos had something to do with being a good pitcher. I got fat, but I never pitched in the majors.
But you claim to have a girlfriend.
(http://hpod.com/files/images/Angela%20Kinsey%20is%20Pregnant%21.jpg)
Oh, D!
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 11:05:23 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 09:05:22 AM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 08:11:32 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Is it hard to type when you're that full of shit?
A number of years ago I went to my first Cubs game, and I got to see Maddux warm up in the bullpen before the first pitch. I was pissed at my dad because he'd left to go get some nachos and cheese, so he missed it. Anyway, after he finished warming up and my dad got back, he walked close to me and I yelled "Hey Maddux, what do I need to do to become a major league pitcher?"
I swear to God this is true... he looked up at me and gave me this wry smile and he said "Kid, all you gotta do is ..." and then he winced and let out this tremendous fart. "Whoa! Sorry about that, kid. Hey, you gonna eat those nachos?"
Then he took my nachos and left. Consequently, I always thought that nachos had something to do with being a good pitcher. I got fat, but I never pitched in the majors.
But you claim to have a girlfriend.
From Canada, no less. I met her in Niagara Falls.
(http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j74/KurtEvans/meandcarolyn.jpg)
That picture is doctored. Nobody would dare wear a watch like that on their beltloop. Well, at least nobody that would dare to put their arm around a "girl".
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 11:05:23 AM
From Canada, no less. I met her in Niagara Falls.
You and your gal must be strong swimmers.
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 11:05:23 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 09:05:22 AM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 08:57:27 AM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 08:11:32 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Is it hard to type when you're that full of shit?
A number of years ago I went to my first Cubs game, and I got to see Maddux warm up in the bullpen before the first pitch. I was pissed at my dad because he'd left to go get some nachos and cheese, so he missed it. Anyway, after he finished warming up and my dad got back, he walked close to me and I yelled "Hey Maddux, what do I need to do to become a major league pitcher?"
I swear to God this is true... he looked up at me and gave me this wry smile and he said "Kid, all you gotta do is ..." and then he winced and let out this tremendous fart. "Whoa! Sorry about that, kid. Hey, you gonna eat those nachos?"
Then he took my nachos and left. Consequently, I always thought that nachos had something to do with being a good pitcher. I got fat, but I never pitched in the majors.
But you claim to have a girlfriend.
From Canada, no less. I met her in Niagara Falls. She lives in Canada, met her at Niagara Falls. You wouldn't know her.
Brian Johnson'd
Ever laid anyone around here, Romeo?
Quote from: Thrillho on April 16, 2008, 11:20:35 AM
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Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 08:11:32 AM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 07:49:36 AM
Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Is it hard to type when you're that full of shit?
A number of years ago I went to my first Cubs game, and I got to see Maddux warm up in the bullpen before the first pitch. I was pissed at my dad because he'd left to go get some nachos and cheese, so he missed it. Anyway, after he finished warming up and my dad got back, he walked close to me and I yelled "Hey Maddux, what do I need to do to become a major league pitcher?"
I swear to God this is true... he looked up at me and gave me this wry smile and he said "Kid, all you gotta do is ..." and then he winced and let out this tremendous fart. "Whoa! Sorry about that, kid. Hey, you gonna eat those nachos?"
Then he took my nachos and left. Consequently, I always thought that nachos had something to do with being a good pitcher. I got fat, but I never pitched in the majors.
But you claim to have a girlfriend.
From Canada, no less. I met her in Niagara Falls. She lives in Canada, met her at Niagara Falls. You wouldn't know her.
Brian Johnson'd
Ever laid anyone around here, Romeo?
That's kinda what I was going for. And by "kinda," I mean "exactly."
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 11:23:14 AM
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Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 08:11:32 AM
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Quote from: AMV on April 15, 2008, 08:55:18 PM
Long-time lurker, first time poster. This fits here, sort of.
Back in '88 I stayed after a game at the player's lot. Ended up seeing Maddux. I had nothing for him to sign (my pre-planning skills were incomplete at 14), so I asked him what a pitcher should do; he'd been doing pretty good and I figured I could learn instead of get an autograph. He said this:
"Kid, all you need to do is to make the balls look like strikes and the strikes look like balls. Work fast, get ahead and change speeds, and it doesn't really matter how fast you throw. Keep 'em off balance and you'll win most of the time. If you're not having fun then don't play."
Is it hard to type when you're that full of shit?
A number of years ago I went to my first Cubs game, and I got to see Maddux warm up in the bullpen before the first pitch. I was pissed at my dad because he'd left to go get some nachos and cheese, so he missed it. Anyway, after he finished warming up and my dad got back, he walked close to me and I yelled "Hey Maddux, what do I need to do to become a major league pitcher?"
I swear to God this is true... he looked up at me and gave me this wry smile and he said "Kid, all you gotta do is ..." and then he winced and let out this tremendous fart. "Whoa! Sorry about that, kid. Hey, you gonna eat those nachos?"
Then he took my nachos and left. Consequently, I always thought that nachos had something to do with being a good pitcher. I got fat, but I never pitched in the majors.
But you claim to have a girlfriend.
From Canada, no less. I met her in Niagara Falls. She lives in Canada, met her at Niagara Falls. You wouldn't know her.
Brian Johnson'd
Ever laid anyone around here, Romeo?
That's kinda what I was going for. And by "kinda," I mean "exactly."
Speak up man'dNo, really... That
is pretty funny.
Hey, is that an Ivan DeJesus button on her purse?
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
Hey, is that an Ivan DeJesus button on her purse?
Got me. To be honest, that picture was in my wallet when I bought it.
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 11:12:27 AM
That picture is doctored. Nobody would dare wear a watch like that on their beltloop. Well, at least nobody that would dare to put their arm around a "girl".
The Friday of the first round of the NCAA tourney, I was at a bar in Lincoln Square with a buddy of mine. Early in the evening, this guy wearing a sweatervest walked in and sat next to us.
Oh, but not only was he sporting a sweatervest...he was also donning a chain around his neck. A chain, from which his cell phone was hanging.
Can't say I had ever seen that look, but I know that it won't get a man lheyd.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 16, 2008, 12:45:29 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 11:12:27 AM
That picture is doctored. Nobody would dare wear a watch like that on their beltloop. Well, at least nobody that would dare to put their arm around a "girl".
The Friday of the first round of the NCAA tourney, I was at a bar in Lincoln Square with a buddy of mine. Early in the evening, this guy wearing a sweatervest walked in and sat next to us.
Oh, but not only was he sporting a sweatervest...he was also donning a chain around his neck. A chain, from which his cell phone was hanging.
Can't say I had ever seen that look, but I know that it won't get a man lheyd.
Maybe it had candy in it
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
Hey, is that an Ivan DeJesus button on her purse?
Got me. To be honest, that picture was in my wallet when I bought it.
It's a good thing too. The questionable taste you display by your lack of jorts is only surpassed by your braided leather belt.
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 12:46:20 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on April 16, 2008, 12:45:29 PM
Quote from: TDubbs on April 16, 2008, 11:12:27 AM
That picture is doctored. Nobody would dare wear a watch like that on their beltloop. Well, at least nobody that would dare to put their arm around a "girl".
The Friday of the first round of the NCAA tourney, I was at a bar in Lincoln Square with a buddy of mine. Early in the evening, this guy wearing a sweatervest walked in and sat next to us.
Oh, but not only was he sporting a sweatervest...he was also donning a chain around his neck. A chain, from which his cell phone was hanging.
Can't say I had ever seen that look, but I know that it won't get a man lheyd.
Maybe it had candy Rohypnol in it
More likely'd.
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on April 16, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
Hey, is that an Ivan DeJesus button on her purse?
Got me. To be honest, that picture was in my wallet when I bought it.
It's a good thing too. The questionable taste you display by your lack of jorts is only surpassed by your braided leather belt.
Checking out another man's braided leather belt, eh? You might have something in common with my girlfriend... she likes the Spice Girls, too.
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on April 16, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
Hey, is that an Ivan DeJesus button on her purse?
Got me. To be honest, that picture was in my wallet when I bought it.
It's a good thing too. The questionable taste you display by your lack of jorts is only surpassed by your braided leather belt.
Checking out another man's braided leather belt, eh? You might have something in common with my girlfriend... she likes the Spice Girls, too.
Enough about your girlfriend. What about your partner?
Quote from: berkeleycubfan on April 16, 2008, 01:05:13 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on April 16, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
Hey, is that an Ivan DeJesus button on her purse?
Got me. To be honest, that picture was in my wallet when I bought it.
It's a good thing too. The questionable taste you display by your lack of jorts is only surpassed by your braided leather belt.
Checking out another man's braided leather belt, eh? You might have something in common with my girlfriend... she likes the Spice Girls, too.
Enough about your girlfriend. What about your partner?
He doesn't abide by photographs.
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on April 16, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
Hey, is that an Ivan DeJesus button on her purse?
Got me. To be honest, that picture was in my wallet when I bought it.
It's a good thing too. The questionable taste you display by your lack of jorts is only surpassed by your braided leather belt.
Checking out another man's braided leather belt, eh? You might have something in common with my girlfriend... she likes the Spice Girls, too.
Tucked your jersey into your jorts.
Tool.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 17, 2008, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on April 16, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
Hey, is that an Ivan DeJesus button on her purse?
Got me. To be honest, that picture was in my wallet when I bought it.
It's a good thing too. The questionable taste you display by your lack of jorts is only surpassed by your braided leather belt.
Checking out another man's braided leather belt, eh? You might have something in common with my girlfriend... she likes the Spice Girls, too.
Tucked your jersey into your jorts.
Tool.
My
blue jersey; please. Not to mention the fact that I was
wearing a jersey in public nowhere near a sporting event. Work with me, Apex.
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 17, 2008, 09:36:46 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 17, 2008, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:57:39 PM
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on April 16, 2008, 12:47:42 PM
Quote from: KurtEvans on April 16, 2008, 12:34:22 PM
Quote from: PTanner on April 16, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
Hey, is that an Ivan DeJesus button on her purse?
Got me. To be honest, that picture was in my wallet when I bought it.
It's a good thing too. The questionable taste you display by your lack of jorts is only surpassed by your braided leather belt.
Checking out another man's braided leather belt, eh? You might have something in common with my girlfriend... she likes the Spice Girls, too.
Tucked your jersey into your jorts.
Tool.
My blue jersey; please. Not to mention the fact that I was wearing a jersey in public nowhere near a sporting event. Work with me, Apex.
You're Canadian, and wearing a jersey without being at a game.
You sure you're not Randy Bachmann?
courtesy of the jockey:
Zambrano's sinker was working effectively, and he was locating his pitches all night instead of trying to overpower hitters in every at-bat.
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said. "He told me one time he preferred to throw more sinkers, more movement than velocity.
"Anytime I want to throw 95 or 96 (m.p.h.), I can throw it. But it's not how hard you throw in the big leagues. It's how you locate your pitches and learn to pitch the game."
Quote from: The Big Cheese on April 22, 2008, 07:24:28 AM
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Zambrano's sinker was working effectively, and he was locating his pitches all night instead of trying to overpower hitters in every at-bat.
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said. "He told me one time he preferred to throw more sinkers, more movement than velocity.
"Anytime I want to throw 95 or 96 (m.p.h.), I can throw it. But it's not how hard you throw in the big leagues. It's how you locate your pitches and learn to pitch the game."
Wow. That's bad news for the rest of the world. He's ready for total domination now. And while he was already worthy of the type of splooge that could father five children in a single thrust, I'm beginning to think that New Z is going to make Old Z look like Victor Z.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 22, 2008, 07:35:05 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on April 22, 2008, 07:24:28 AM
courtesy of the jockey:
Zambrano's sinker was working effectively, and he was locating his pitches all night instead of trying to overpower hitters in every at-bat.
"I played with one of the best pitchers in history, Greg Maddux," Zambrano said. "He told me one time he preferred to throw more sinkers, more movement than velocity.
"Anytime I want to throw 95 or 96 (m.p.h.), I can throw it. But it's not how hard you throw in the big leagues. It's how you locate your pitches and learn to pitch the game."
Wow. That's bad news for the rest of the world. He's ready for total domination now. And while he was already worthy of the type of splooge that could father five children in a single thrust, I'm beginning to think that New Z is going to make Old Z look like Victor Z.
the Z the Mets got when they thought they were getting Big Z for Scott Kazmir.
Quote from: ~Apex on April 22, 2008, 07:35:05 AM
Wow. That's bad news for the rest of the world. He's ready for total domination now. And while he was already worthy of the type of splooge that could father five children in a single thrust, I'm beginning to think that New Z is going to make Old Z look like Victor Z.
Yeah. He really looks outstanding so far. The 27-to-5 K/BB ratio is the main stat to point to. After five starts last year, he was at 22-to-19.
Quote from: EG on April 22, 2008, 08:29:07 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 22, 2008, 07:35:05 AM
Wow. That's bad news for the rest of the world. He's ready for total domination now. And while he was already worthy of the type of splooge that could father five children in a single thrust, I'm beginning to think that New Z is going to make Old Z look like Victor Z.
Yeah. He really looks outstanding so far. The 27-to-5 K/BB ratio is the main stat to point to. After five starts last year, he was at 22-to-19.
his numbers were like that in Spring Training too...I think 10K/0BB.
Fucking disgusting.
Quote from: PTanner on April 22, 2008, 10:42:51 AM
Quote from: EG on April 22, 2008, 08:29:07 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 22, 2008, 07:35:05 AM
Wow. That's bad news for the rest of the world. He's ready for total domination now. And while he was already worthy of the type of splooge that could father five children in a single thrust, I'm beginning to think that New Z is going to make Old Z look like Victor Z.
Yeah. He really looks outstanding so far. The 27-to-5 K/BB ratio is the main stat to point to. After five starts last year, he was at 22-to-19.
his numbers were like that in Spring Training too...I think 10K/0BB.
Fucking disgusting.
And he's drinking water now too.
Quote from: PTanner on April 22, 2008, 10:42:51 AM
Quote from: EG on April 22, 2008, 08:29:07 AM
Quote from: ~Apex on April 22, 2008, 07:35:05 AM
Wow. That's bad news for the rest of the world. He's ready for total domination now. And while he was already worthy of the type of splooge that could father five children in a single thrust, I'm beginning to think that New Z is going to make Old Z look like Victor Z.
Yeah. He really looks outstanding so far. The 27-to-5 K/BB ratio is the main stat to point to. After five starts last year, he was at 22-to-19.
his numbers were like that in Spring Training too...I think 10K/0BB.
Fucking disgusting.
Last night, I was impressed at the way he worked the corners. I'm not sure I've ever seen his command quite so good...and there was no letup even when using his slidestep.
The sequence in the 1st where Wright struck out looking was something. First base open...but he throws two consecutive fastballs to outside corner spots that Wright figured he was better off taking and hoping for the umpires help.
Sauce.
According to Peter Gammons, Dempster used his 'exile to the bullpen' [insert hilarious picture of Dempster sitting on a bench and shivering in a Cubs parka] to study at the feet of Maddux [who never sat in the bullpen, but whatever]. Maddux taught Dempster the importance of never BBing anyone and executing every pitch. Being a closer taught Dempster to focus on every pitch. These lessons apparently only applied to starters, which is why Dempster pestered Lou for a year to start, in order implement Maddux's teachings.
Obviously, we have Maddux to thank for Dempster's strong start.
Maddux isn't the best pitcher, but he's the RIGHT pitcher.
Quote from: The Big Cheese on June 23, 2008, 12:52:02 AM
According to Peter Gammons, Dempster used his 'exile to the bullpen' [insert hilarious picture of Dempster sitting on a bench and shivering in a Cubs parka] to study at the feet of Maddux [who never sat in the bullpen, but whatever]. Maddux taught Dempster the importance of never BBing anyone and executing every pitch. Being a closer taught Dempster to focus on every pitch. These lessons apparently only applied to starters, which is why Dempster pestered Lou for a year to start, in order implement Maddux's teachings.
Obviously, we have Maddux to thank for Dempster's strong start.
yes, but countering Gammon's nice story was Joe Morgan's re-hashing of his version of "Banks Boulevard" after E-Pat's HR into the basket.
Quote from: Dave B on June 23, 2008, 07:53:05 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on June 23, 2008, 12:52:02 AM
According to Peter Gammons, Dempster used his 'exile to the bullpen' [insert hilarious picture of Dempster sitting on a bench and shivering in a Cubs parka] to study at the feet of Maddux [who never sat in the bullpen, but whatever]. Maddux taught Dempster the importance of never BBing anyone and executing every pitch. Being a closer taught Dempster to focus on every pitch. These lessons apparently only applied to starters, which is why Dempster pestered Lou for a year to start, in order implement Maddux's teachings.
Obviously, we have Maddux to thank for Dempster's strong start.
yes, but countering Gammon's nice story was Joe Morgan's re-hashing of his version of "Banks Boulevard" after E-Pat's HR into the basket.
Don't forget that Gammons added, at the end of his cheesy bullshit story, that the Cubs have a "100 year itch".
Oh yeah? Is that how long it's been? Great.
Quote from: PTanner on June 23, 2008, 05:18:15 AM
Maddux isn't the best pitcher, but he's the RIGHT pitcher.
He's now an former pitcher http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-maddux6-2008dec06,0,1441610.story (http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-maddux6-2008dec06,0,1441610.story).
He'll be playing 18 in upstate NY in the summer of 2014.
Greg Maddux.
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It's been 22 years since he made his Major League debut as pinch-running for Jody Davis in the 17th inning of an 18-inning loss to the Astros. Just for kicks, here are some of the guys who played in that game:
Davey Lopes
Charlie Kerfeld
Larry Andersen
Dave Smith
Matt Keough
Bob Knepper
Bill Doran
Danny Darwin
Phil Garner
Denny Walling
Dan Driessen
Kevin Bass
Jose Cruz (Sr.)
Alan Ashby
Dickie Thon
Craig Reynolds
Nolan Ryan
Auerlio Lopez
Terry Puhl
Billy Hatcher (who hit the first HR off of Maddux, the game-winner)
Dave Martinez
Lee Smith
Brian Dayett
Ryne Sandberg
Jerry Mumphrey
Bobby Dernier
Keith Moreland
Leon Durham
Chico Walker
Frank DiPino
Rick Sutcliffe
Scott Sanderson
Manny Trillo
Jody Davis
Chris Speier
Guy Hoffman
Gary Matthews (Sr.)
Shawon Dunston (in his second MLB season)
Jamie Moyer
Terry Francona
Thad Bosley
Steve Trout
Ron Cey
Yeah, there is one active player in that list.
His last appearance at Wrigley was 22 years and at least two or three eras later and punctuated by getting Chuck's favorite player to hit a weak pop-fly to end game 1.
That kind of longevity would have been even better had all 22 seasons been in a Cubs uniform.
Easily my favorite starting pitcher of all-time.
Fuck Maddux.
Quote from: Simmer on December 05, 2008, 06:10:37 PM
Easily my favorite starting pitcher of all-time.
You and me both. I'm sure it won't be long until Smoltz and Glavine follow suit and the three of them are playing golf together on a course where the cups are 6 inches wider--or at least any putt that ends up within 6 inches of either edge counts...but just for them.
Quote from: ~Apex on December 05, 2008, 08:45:31 PM
Fuck Maddux.
How in God's name can you not like Greg Maddux?
Quote from: Kerm on December 06, 2008, 12:22:25 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on December 05, 2008, 08:45:31 PM
Fuck Maddux.
How in God's name can you not like Greg Maddux?
Not a big Braves fan. I always enjoyed watching him work but these days I'm increasingly bitter that he spent all his best years elsewhere. Nothing personal.
Quote from: ~Apex on December 06, 2008, 01:03:38 PM
Quote from: Kerm on December 06, 2008, 12:22:25 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on December 05, 2008, 08:45:31 PM
Fuck Maddux.
How in God's name can you not like Greg Maddux?
Not a big Braves fan. I always enjoyed watching him work but these days I'm increasingly bitter that he spent all his best years elsewhere. Nothing personal.
Maddux' 131 wins in a Cubs uniform puts him 4 behind Rick Reuschel for most wins in a Cubs uniform in your lifetime.
It's not his fault that the team was being run by a clown college in '92. Fact is, he took less to pitch in Atlanta than he could have gotten pitching for the Yankees.
Fuck Maddux? Fuck Stanton Cook and Larry Himes.
Quote from: Mike D on December 06, 2008, 01:11:30 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on December 06, 2008, 01:03:38 PM
Quote from: Kerm on December 06, 2008, 12:22:25 PM
Quote from: ~Apex on December 05, 2008, 08:45:31 PM
Fuck Maddux.
How in God's name can you not like Greg Maddux?
Not a big Braves fan. I always enjoyed watching him work but these days I'm increasingly bitter that he spent all his best years elsewhere. Nothing personal.
Maddux' 131 wins in a Cubs uniform puts him 4 behind Rick Reuschel for most wins in a Cubs uniform in your lifetime.
It's not his fault that the team was being run by a clown college in '92. Fact is, he took less to pitch in Atlanta than he could have gotten pitching for the Yankees.
Fuck Maddux? Fuck Stanton Cook and Larry Himes.
Yes. Fuck those guys, of course. I hate Himes as much as any sports exec who ever lived. Believe me, I do. If you want me to have a mature, adult reaction to this, fine. Here goes:
I don't care about Maddux. I don't really feel anything one way or another about him. But there was a time I did. My dad has a good friend who grew up next door to Greg and Mike Maddux's grandparents. Greg and Mike used to spend big chunks of their summers hanging out with that dude and they got pretty close. So that friend of my dad's could get Cubs tickets anytime he wanted. And every year he'd get some for my dad and I. Those were the best memories of my early adolescence, sitting in Greg Maddux seats behind home plate at Wrigley. Some of you who grew up in this area might take for granted how huge that is for a youngster but it was never lost on me. In those days, I pitched in little league and I worshipped Maddux. He and Sutcliffe were everything to me. When Maddux left for Atlanta it was like a kick to the sack that never fully healed. Especially not when Maddux went to the playoffs every year, the Series a few times and won it once while the Cubs sucked donkey dick for damn near the entire decade.
Like the hot chick who was your friend when you were in grade school but her parents moved to another school and she forgot all about you, it hurt to think of what might have been had she stuck around. Now she never even says, hello until she's already been worn out by every jock at that other school and her parents suddenly move back. She wants to be friends again. She might even let you hit. Oh, by the way, she's got a kid with some other asshole and she's put on about 20 pounds. Yay?
Ok, it's not Maddux's fault that we got stiffed so bad. But fuck if I'm going to get all misty-eyed about that guy and his 131 (!) wins in a Cub uniform. Fuck all that shit. I'm a Cubs fan. Retire Fergie's 31 and see if Maddux even gives a flying shit. I certainly doubt he would.
Maddux says, "Please don't hate me, Apex."
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Quote from: ~Apex on December 06, 2008, 01:40:36 PM
Ok, it's not Maddux's fault that we got stiffed so bad. But fuck if I'm going to get all misty-eyed about that guy and his 131 (!) wins in a Cub uniform. Fuck all that shit. I'm a Cubs fan.
I'm with you. I'd probably like Maddux more if he never was a Cub. Instead I mostly think about what could have been if he never left. It was nice that he came back and I loved watching him pitch, but overall his career was a disappointment to me as a Cubs fan.
I always liked Maddux because of his style of pitching, regardless of who he pitched for. The same reason why I never liked Clemens, regardless of who he pitched for.
Where Maddux used chess pieces to outmatch hitters, Fat Roger Clettitte used a needle in his ass to overpower them.
The fact that Maddux was a Cub at one point of course helps me like him. The fact that he left sucked. But, being a fan of good, solid, smarts-based pitching, I always liked the guy, and always will. Clemens can go suck the dried crusted ass-blood off a rusted syringe tip.
Quote from: Simmer on December 06, 2008, 05:45:17 PM
I always liked Maddux because of his style of pitching, regardless of who he pitched for. The same reason why I never liked Clemens, regardless of who he pitched for.
Where Maddux used chess pieces to outmatch hitters, Fat Roger Clettitte used a needle in his ass to overpower them.
The fact that Maddux was a Cub at one point of course helps me like him. The fact that he left sucked. But, being a fan of good, solid, smarts-based pitching, I always liked the guy, and always will. Clemens can go suck the dried crusted ass-blood off a rusted syringe tip drink some Miller Lite.
Ewww'd(http://i33.tinypic.com/2d1l3eo.jpg)
This development, of course, forces us to ask ourselves, "Who is willing to murder Larry Rothschild in his sleep so that Greg can be the pitching coach next year?"
Huey?
Quote from: Kerm on December 06, 2008, 06:24:32 PM
This development, of course, forces us to ask ourselves, "Who is willing to murder Larry Rothschild in his sleep so that Greg can be the pitching coach next year?"
Huey?
Why does he need to be asleep? Pussy.
Quote from: Kerm on December 06, 2008, 06:24:32 PMThis development, of course, forces us to ask ourselves, "Who is willing to murder Larry Rothschild in his sleep so that Greg can be the pitching coach next year?"Huey?
Huh. I hadn't even thought of that. I'm really getting old.
However, Maddux himself
claims to have not considered a vocation, if he and Bob Verdi (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-30-verdi-greg-madduxnov30,0,4034842.column) are to be believed.
QuoteMost gifted athletes cannot transfer their knowledge, but Maddux's teammates will say he already has imparted an almost supernatural grasp of the game. He cannot teach how to snag a record 18 Gold Gloves, or win at least 15 games in a record 17 consecutive seasons, but he is nicknamed "The Professor" for a reason. When Maddux retires, baseball cannot let that mind go to waste."Pitching coach?" he said. "Haven't really thought about it. Senior golf tour? I'm 42. If I get really good by the time I'm 50, and can actually make it, I'll be up against guys like Lee Janzen, who won two U.S. Opens. Don't like my chances, do you?
His thoughts on golf are hilarious. He's definitely thought about the Seniors Tour. Still, "Haven't really thought about (pitching coach)"? Even though he sees how his less talented brother gets to do it for a living?
If it doesn't work out for the tour, I don't think there'd be any doubt that Maddux would command a pretty penny for his services as a coach.
Quote from: Mike D on December 06, 2008, 07:04:54 PM
Quote from: Kerm on December 06, 2008, 06:24:32 PMThis development, of course, forces us to ask ourselves, "Who is willing to murder Larry Rothschild in his sleep so that Greg can be the pitching coach next year?"Huey?
Huh. I hadn't even thought of that. I'm really getting old.
However, Maddux himself claims to have not considered a vocation, if he and Bob Verdi (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-30-verdi-greg-madduxnov30,0,4034842.column) are to be believed.
QuoteMost gifted athletes cannot transfer their knowledge, but Maddux's teammates will say he already has imparted an almost supernatural grasp of the game. He cannot teach how to snag a record 18 Gold Gloves, or win at least 15 games in a record 17 consecutive seasons, but he is nicknamed "The Professor" for a reason. When Maddux retires, baseball cannot let that mind go to waste."Pitching coach?" he said. "Haven't really thought about it. Senior golf tour? I'm 42. If I get really good by the time I'm 50, and can actually make it, I'll be up against guys like Lee Janzen, who won two U.S. Opens. Don't like my chances, do you?
His thoughts on golf are hilarious. He's definitely thought about the Seniors Tour. Still, "Haven't really thought about (pitching coach)"? Even though he sees how his less talented brother gets to do it for a living?
If it doesn't work out for the tour, I don't think there'd be any doubt that Maddux would command a pretty penny for his services as a coach.
I'll pass the hat at Kitty O'Shea's.
Quote from: Simmer on December 06, 2008, 05:45:17 PM
I always liked Maddux because of his style of pitching, regardless of who he pitched for. The same reason why I never liked Clemens, regardless of who he pitched for.
Where Maddux used chess pieces to outmatch hitters, Fat Roger Clettitte used a needle in his ass to overpower them.
The fact that Maddux was a Cub at one point of course helps me like him. The fact that he left sucked. But, being a fan of good, solid, smarts-based pitching, I always liked the guy, and always will. Clemens can go suck the dried crusted ass-blood off a rusted syringe tip.
Well said Simmer, couldn't agree more. But who could blame Cubs management for spending $5 million on Greg Hibbard and Jose Guzman instead of spending a ridiculous $6 million on Maddux?
(chugs bottle of Drano)
Quote from: RV on December 06, 2008, 07:38:24 PM
Quote from: Simmer on December 06, 2008, 05:45:17 PM
I always liked Maddux because of his style of pitching, regardless of who he pitched for. The same reason why I never liked Clemens, regardless of who he pitched for.
Where Maddux used chess pieces to outmatch hitters, Fat Roger Clettitte used a needle in his ass to overpower them.
The fact that Maddux was a Cub at one point of course helps me like him. The fact that he left sucked. But, being a fan of good, solid, smarts-based pitching, I always liked the guy, and always will. Clemens can go suck the dried crusted ass-blood off a rusted syringe tip.
Well said Simmer, couldn't agree more. But who could blame Cubs management for spending $5 million on Greg Hibbard and Jose Guzman instead of spending a ridiculous $6 million on Maddux?
(chugs bottle of Drano)
Hibbard and Guzman instead of Maddux...that puts the Cubs at plus 1. It was the smart move!
Guys who made as much money playing as Greg did usually don't bother to coach. Manage? Maybe, if they've got the itch. Just because his brother is a pitching coach doesn't mean Greg wants to hang around ballparks the rest of his life. He could fetch the same bread as a broadcaster and work far less. I could see him as a Spring Training instructor. For the Braves. That's about it.
Quote from: Kerm on December 06, 2008, 03:44:18 PM
Maddux says, "Please don't hate me, Apex."
(http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v121/98/23/5607306/n5607306_33481419_2905.jpg)
I love dogs. Hate the damn 90s Braves.
The Cubs right-hander posted his 10th quality start of the season, and he did so with a mixed bag of offspeed pitches. Instead of having his pitches register 95, 96 mph on the radar gun, it was more like 88, 89 mph.
"I was throwing a lot of split-finger [pitches] today," Zambrano said. "I said, 'I have to pitch like [Greg] Maddux and just move the ball.'"
Quote from: The Big Cheese on July 04, 2009, 12:06:59 AM
The Cubs right-hander posted his 10th quality start of the season, and he did so with a mixed bag of offspeed pitches. Instead of having his pitches register 95, 96 mph on the radar gun, it was more like 88, 89 mph.
"I was throwing a lot of split-finger [pitches] today," Zambrano said. "I said, 'I have to pitch like [Greg] Maddux and just move the ball.'"
Waive him. Now.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 04, 2009, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on July 04, 2009, 12:06:59 AM
The Cubs right-hander posted his 10th quality start of the season, and he did so with a mixed bag of offspeed pitches. Instead of having his pitches register 95, 96 mph on the radar gun, it was more like 88, 89 mph.
"I was throwing a lot of split-finger [pitches] today," Zambrano said. "I said, 'I have to pitch like [Greg] Maddux and just move the ball.'"
Waive him. Now. Trade him for Casey "Sneak Attack" McGehee.
I'm new at this, but maude'ed?
Quote from: BBM on July 04, 2009, 08:08:08 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 04, 2009, 08:35:17 AM
Quote from: The Big Cheese on July 04, 2009, 12:06:59 AM
The Cubs right-hander posted his 10th quality start of the season, and he did so with a mixed bag of offspeed pitches. Instead of having his pitches register 95, 96 mph on the radar gun, it was more like 88, 89 mph.
"I was throwing a lot of split-finger [pitches] today," Zambrano said. "I said, 'I have to pitch like [Greg] Maddux and just move the ball.'"
Waive him. Now. Trade him for Casey "Sneak Attack" McGehee.
I'm new at this, but maude'ed?
Done and done.
Jimbo's got a golfing buddy (http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/4816461/name/levine).
QuoteThe Chicago Cubs may have made their most important acquisition of the offseason Monday by adding a future Hall of Famer.
The organization will announce Monday afternoon that 350-game winner Greg Maddux has been signed to become a special assistant to general manager Jim Hendry in 2010.
Maddux's duties will include helping with instruction for both major-leaguers and minor-leaguers during spring training, as well as scouting duties throughout the season.
Quote from: R-V on January 11, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
Jimbo's got a golfing buddy (http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/4816461/name/levine).
QuoteThe Chicago Cubs may have made their most important acquisition of the offseason Monday by adding a future Hall of Famer.
The organization will announce Monday afternoon that 350-game winner Greg Maddux has been signed to become a special assistant to general manager Jim Hendry in 2010.
Maddux's duties will include helping with instruction for both major-leaguers and minor-leaguers during spring training, as well as scouting duties throughout the season.
Do we really want this guy working in the front office? I mean, he once traded Greg Maddux for Cesar Izturis!
Quote from: CT III on January 11, 2010, 02:17:40 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 11, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
Jimbo's got a golfing buddy (http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/4816461/name/levine).
QuoteThe Chicago Cubs may have made their most important acquisition of the offseason Monday by adding a future Hall of Famer.
The organization will announce Monday afternoon that 350-game winner Greg Maddux has been signed to become a special assistant to general manager Jim Hendry in 2010.
Maddux's duties will include helping with instruction for both major-leaguers and minor-leaguers during spring training, as well as scouting duties throughout the season.
Do we really want this guy working in the front office? I mean, he once traded Greg Maddux for Cesar Izturis!
At least he was working, as opposed to Jimbo.
Quote from: R-V on January 11, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
Jimbo's got a golfing buddy (http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/4816461/name/levine).
QuoteThe Chicago Cubs may have made their most important acquisition of the offseason Monday by adding a future Hall of Famer.
The organization will announce Monday afternoon that 350-game winner Greg Maddux has been signed to become a special assistant to general manager Jim Hendry in 2010.
Maddux's duties will include helping with instruction for both major-leaguers and minor-leaguers during spring training, as well as scouting duties throughout the season.
That's "Assistant to the General Manager:"
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20100111&content_id=7900214&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc&partnerId=rss_chc (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20100111&content_id=7900214&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc&partnerId=rss_chc)
Great. Only a matter of time before Maddux starts throwing his weight around and insisting people address him as "Assistant General Manager."
Quote from: motown on January 11, 2010, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 11, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
Jimbo's got a golfing buddy (http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/4816461/name/levine).
QuoteThe Chicago Cubs may have made their most important acquisition of the offseason Monday by adding a future Hall of Famer.
The organization will announce Monday afternoon that 350-game winner Greg Maddux has been signed to become a special assistant to general manager Jim Hendry in 2010.
Maddux's duties will include helping with instruction for both major-leaguers and minor-leaguers during spring training, as well as scouting duties throughout the season.
That's "Assistant to the General Manager:"
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20100111&content_id=7900214&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc&partnerId=rss_chc (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20100111&content_id=7900214&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc&partnerId=rss_chc)
Great. Only a matter of time before Maddux starts throwing his weight around and insisting people address him as "Assistant General Manager."
Dwight Maddux?
Quote from: R-V on January 11, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
Jimbo's got a golfing buddy (http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/4816461/name/levine).
QuoteThe Chicago Cubs may have made their most important acquisition of the offseason Monday by adding a future Hall of Famer.
The organization will announce Monday afternoon that 350-game winner Greg Maddux has been signed to become a special assistant to general manager Jim Hendry in 2010.
Maddux's duties will include helping with instruction for both major-leaguers and minor-leaguers during spring training, as well as scouting duties throughout the season.
That's excellent news. Get that nose-pickin' genius back in the organization somehow. Now get Phil Nevin to be the assistant to the assistant.
Quote from: Yeti on January 11, 2010, 03:26:31 PM
Quote from: motown on January 11, 2010, 03:18:24 PM
Quote from: R-V on January 11, 2010, 02:13:34 PM
Jimbo's got a golfing buddy (http://espn.go.com/chicago/columns/blog/_/post/4816461/name/levine).
QuoteThe Chicago Cubs may have made their most important acquisition of the offseason Monday by adding a future Hall of Famer.
The organization will announce Monday afternoon that 350-game winner Greg Maddux has been signed to become a special assistant to general manager Jim Hendry in 2010.
Maddux's duties will include helping with instruction for both major-leaguers and minor-leaguers during spring training, as well as scouting duties throughout the season.
That's "Assistant to the General Manager:"
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20100111&content_id=7900214&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc&partnerId=rss_chc (http://mlb.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20100111&content_id=7900214&vkey=pr_chc&fext=.jsp&c_id=chc&partnerId=rss_chc)
Great. Only a matter of time before Maddux starts throwing his weight around and insisting people address him as "Assistant General Manager."
Dwight Maddux?
I like that. Greg Maddux, Assistant
to the General Manager.
Great move. This almost totally makes up for the time they let him sign with Atlanta on the heels of a Cy Young campaign. I fucking love this team. Always thinking of me, Joe Sports Fan. Can't wait til they introduce this blockbuster signing at the Cubs Convention. Epic.
Quote from: Internet Apex on January 11, 2010, 03:33:38 PM
Great move. This almost totally makes up for the time they let him sign with Atlanta on the heels of a Cy Young campaign. I fucking love this team. Always thinking of me, Joe Sports Fan. Can't wait til they introduce this blockbuster signing at the Cubs Convention. Epic.
If they really wanted to make me happy, they'd bring back Mark DeRosa to do something. I mean, the guy can play
five positions; how hard can Mark O'Neil's job be?
Dave Duncan can eat a ham & chode Hot Pocket. Greg is the master. (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/3493)
QuoteHad a chance to talk baseball with reliever Jeff Stevens this morning, too. He had Greg Maddux standing behind him yesterday in the cage as he threw. He said in the past, he might throw 10 fastballs in a row or 10 sliders in a row. He said Maddux told him, "You don't pitch that way in a game," and to mix it up while he was throwing.
Maddux has been hard at work here, helping pitching coach Larry Rothschild. Also this morning, Maddux was sitting in the clubhouse with catching prospect Steve Clevenger, pointing out how to best pick up pitchers' arm slots. Good stuff. The kids ought to listen.
Quote from: R-V on February 23, 2010, 11:29:22 AM
Dave Duncan can eat a ham & chode Hot Pocket. Greg is the master. (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/3493)
QuoteHad a chance to talk baseball with reliever Jeff Stevens this morning, too. He had Greg Maddux standing behind him yesterday in the cage as he threw. He said in the past, he might throw 10 fastballs in a row or 10 sliders in a row. He said Maddux told him, "You don't pitch that way in a game," and to mix it up while he was throwing.
Maddux has been hard at work here, helping pitching coach Larry Rothschild. Also this morning, Maddux was sitting in the clubhouse with catching prospect Steve Clevenger, pointing out how to best pick up pitchers' arm slots. Good stuff. The kids ought to listen.
Dear gord,
I don't aks for much. But after 7 years, 4 managers and countless crushed hopes and dreams out of our pitching staff, will you please send a bus to run over Larry Rothschild once and for all?
Appreciate it.
Mike
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 23, 2010, 11:29:22 AM
Dave Duncan can eat a ham & chode Hot Pocket. Greg is the master. (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/3493)
QuoteHad a chance to talk baseball with reliever Jeff Stevens this morning, too. He had Greg Maddux standing behind him yesterday in the cage as he threw. He said in the past, he might throw 10 fastballs in a row or 10 sliders in a row. He said Maddux told him, "You don't pitch that way in a game," and to mix it up while he was throwing.
Maddux has been hard at work here, helping pitching coach Larry Rothschild. Also this morning, Maddux was sitting in the clubhouse with catching prospect Steve Clevenger, pointing out how to best pick up pitchers' arm slots. Good stuff. The kids ought to listen.
Dear gord,
I don't aks for much. But after 7 years, 4 managers and countless crushed hopes and dreams out of our pitching staff, will you please send a bus to run over Larry Rothschild once and for all?
Appreciate it.
Mike
Shouldn't this tip be common sense to Larry? Or our pitchers? I know Maddux is a genius and all, but this should't be considered sage advice.
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 11:35:03 AM
Quote from: R-V on February 23, 2010, 11:29:22 AM
Dave Duncan can eat a ham & chode Hot Pocket. Greg is the master. (http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/3493)
QuoteHad a chance to talk baseball with reliever Jeff Stevens this morning, too. He had Greg Maddux standing behind him yesterday in the cage as he threw. He said in the past, he might throw 10 fastballs in a row or 10 sliders in a row. He said Maddux told him, "You don't pitch that way in a game," and to mix it up while he was throwing.
Maddux has been hard at work here, helping pitching coach Larry Rothschild. Also this morning, Maddux was sitting in the clubhouse with catching prospect Steve Clevenger, pointing out how to best pick up pitchers' arm slots. Good stuff. The kids ought to listen.
Dear gord,
I don't aks for much. But after 7 years, 4 managers and countless crushed hopes and dreams out of our pitching staff, will you please send a bus to run over Larry Rothschild once and for all?
Appreciate it.
Mike
The Cubs team pitching ranks over the years by ERA:
2009 - 5th
2008 - 3rd
2007 - 2nd
2006 - 14th
2005 - 9th
2004 - 3rd
2003 - 3rd
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
My admiration for Greg Maddux takes a back seat to no one else's fawning. However. All he did with Mr. Stevens is to tell him to intersperse different kinds of pitches when practicing rather than to throw the same pitch over and over. If the pitcher wasn't already doing that it indicates that that pitcher has a lot more to learn.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I don't want to live in a world where I have to justify hating anyone. You know who tried to limit hate to approved channels? Hitler, that's who.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I hate Larry Rothschild for thinking he could "fix" jason marquis.
Think other people hate Rothschild because of the Prior/Wood towel throwing, constant injury seasons, but not sure how much of this can be blamed on Larry.
I'm sure Huey has a sweet nickname for Larry though, I kinda wanna hear it.
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I hate Larry Rothschild for thinking he could "fix" jason marquis.
He probably should have just let him do his own thing.
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I hate Larry Rothschild for thinking he could "fix" jason marquis.
Think other people hate Rothschild because of the Prior/Wood towel throwing, constant injury seasons, but not sure how much of this can be blamed on Larry.
I'm sure Huey has a sweet nickname for Larry though, I kinda wanna hear it.
Larry Garbanzo Beanz.
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I hate Larry Rothschild for thinking he could "fix" jason marquis.
Think other people hate Rothschild because of the Prior/Wood towel throwing, constant injury seasons, but not sure how much of this can be blamed on Larry.
I'm sure Huey has a sweet nickname for Larry though, I kinda wanna hear it.
Larry Garbanzo Beanz.
I don't know who I hate more: you for typing that, or me for laughing at it.
Wait.
You. I definitely hate you more.
Quote from: Jon on February 23, 2010, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I hate Larry Rothschild for thinking he could "fix" jason marquis.
Think other people hate Rothschild because of the Prior/Wood towel throwing, constant injury seasons, but not sure how much of this can be blamed on Larry.
I'm sure Huey has a sweet nickname for Larry though, I kinda wanna hear it.
Larry Garbanzo Beanz.
I don't know who I hate more: you for typing that, or me for laughing at it.
Wait. You. I definitely hate you more.
The 'z' at the end of beanz is what really does it for me.
Quote from: Jon on February 23, 2010, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I hate Larry Rothschild for thinking he could "fix" jason marquis.
Think other people hate Rothschild because of the Prior/Wood towel throwing, constant injury seasons, but not sure how much of this can be blamed on Larry.
I'm sure Huey has a sweet nickname for Larry though, I kinda wanna hear it.
Larry Garbanzo Beanz.
I don't know who I hate more: you for typing that, or me for laughing at it.
Wait. You. I definitely hate you more.
Good. I'm currently working on an ecologically-efficient contraption wherein I take all external hatred and convert it into energy that in turns keeps my own ANGER running smoothly. Clean burning RAGE.
MOAR HATERADE PLZ.
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 23, 2010, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I hate Larry Rothschild for thinking he could "fix" jason marquis.
Think other people hate Rothschild because of the Prior/Wood towel throwing, constant injury seasons, but not sure how much of this can be blamed on Larry.
I'm sure Huey has a sweet nickname for Larry though, I kinda wanna hear it.
Larry Garbanzo Beanz.
I don't know who I hate more: you for typing that, or me for laughing at it.
Wait. You. I definitely hate you more.
Good. I'm currently working on an ecologically-efficient contraption wherein I take all external hatred and convert it into energy that in turns keeps my own ANGER running smoothly. Clean burning RAGE.
MOAR HATERADE PLZ.
Is saying that I hope you die making it mean?
Quote from: Yeti on February 23, 2010, 01:05:22 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 01:01:52 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 23, 2010, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:19:58 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
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Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I hate Larry Rothschild for thinking he could "fix" jason marquis.
Think other people hate Rothschild because of the Prior/Wood towel throwing, constant injury seasons, but not sure how much of this can be blamed on Larry.
I'm sure Huey has a sweet nickname for Larry though, I kinda wanna hear it.
Larry Garbanzo Beanz.
I don't know who I hate more: you for typing that, or me for laughing at it.
Wait. You. I definitely hate you more.
Good. I'm currently working on an ecologically-efficient contraption wherein I take all external hatred and convert it into energy that in turns keeps my own ANGER running smoothly. Clean burning RAGE.
MOAR HATERADE PLZ.
Is saying that I hope you die making it mean?
Are you new here?
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Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 12:11:48 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 23, 2010, 12:08:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on February 23, 2010, 12:01:08 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 23, 2010, 11:48:48 AM
I realize ERA probably isn't the best indicator of how well a team pitches but the angst over Rothschild is misplaced. I've felt this way for a while now. He's been at least partially responsible for some excellent staffs.
Agreed. I don't have a problem with Rothschild, and I don't see why anyone would.
He's just kind of there. Overrated, mostly. Plus, I like by beer cold, my homosexuals flaming, and my RAGE irrational.
I'm as irrational as anyone. You saw my Theriot post earlier this week, I assume. Just throwing out some defense for Larry. I have a friend who was screaming that Larry should be eviscerated in public late last season. When I tried to reason with him that last year had almost nothing to do with the failures of Larry Rothschild as an individual it didn't have any effect and left me in a foul mood. I think that's probably got a lot to do with it.
I hate Larry Rothschild for thinking he could "fix" jason marquis.
Think other people hate Rothschild because of the Prior/Wood towel throwing, constant injury seasons, but not sure how much of this can be blamed on Larry.
I'm sure Huey has a sweet nickname for Larry though, I kinda wanna hear it.
Larry Garbanzo Beanz.
I don't know who I hate more: you for typing that, or me for laughing at it.
Wait. You. I definitely hate you more.
Good. I'm currently working on an ecologically-efficient contraption wherein I take all external hatred and convert it into energy that in turns keeps my own ANGER running smoothly. Clean burning RAGE.
MOAR HATERADE PLZ.
Is saying that I hope you die making it mean?
Are you new here?
If so, shut up Paul, you're a douche.
Maddux pulls off his second trade.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0801-bits-cubs-rockies-chicago20100731,0,5371387.story?obref=obinsite
if Greg Maddux ever becomes a major league general manager, he can look back on Blake DeWitt as his first move.
[Sully may be overlooking the Izturis trade out of politeness]
Cubs GM Jim Hendry gave Maddux some credit for the decision to acquire the Dodgers infielder in the Ted Lilly/Ryan Theriot deal.
"We've certainly liked him for years," Hendry said. "He's a tough kid. He's 24 years old, so his better days are way ahead of him. ... He has a chance to be a complete player. He has to be better offensively. Greg spoke highly of him, when Greg pitched for the Dodgers, and in my discussions with Greg about him a few weeks back.
(http://i.imgur.com/5Y7M3pT.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/m4QtRXG.jpg)
That's pretty great. Good job, Doug Mapson.
If that address is correct, Young Maddux lived in the Star Wars street area of Las Vegas.
It doesn't look like these have been posted here yet, so here's a YouTube find: A 19-year-old Greg Maddux pitching for the Peoria Chiefs against the Quad Cities Angels (featuring Dante Bichette) in 1985. Surprisingly decent footage.
Part 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V5T6q_AyiY)
Part 2 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-5GJCB8bE4)
Part 3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LNy6iFN_Pc)
Cubs starters (managed by Pete Mackanin):
C Hector Villanueva
1B Darcy Walker
2B Bryan House
3B Bruce Crabbe
SS Julius McDougal
LF Todd Smith (read by the announcer as the RF)
CF Don Richardson
RF Rafael Palmeiro (also read by the announcer as the RF)
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2014, 10:07:10 PM
TF Rafael Palmeiro (also read by the announcer as the RF)
That's fine. Harry never quite overcame the urge to call him "Palermo".
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 07:18:55 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2014, 10:07:10 PM
TF Rafael Palmeiro (also read by the announcer as the RF)
That's fine. Harry never quite overcame the urge to call him "Palermo".
How did RF become TF in your quote? That's impressive work.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 30, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 07:18:55 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2014, 10:07:10 PM
TF Rafael Palmeiro (also read by the announcer as the RF)
That's fine. Harry never quite overcame the urge to call him "Palermo".
How did RF become TF in your quote? That's impressive work.
Intrepid Reader: Cindy SandbergThe "T" is for Tight.
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 30, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 07:18:55 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2014, 10:07:10 PM
TF Rafael Palmeiro (also read by the announcer as the RF)
That's fine. Harry never quite overcame the urge to call him "Palermo".
How did RF become TF in your quote? That's impressive work.
Intrepid Reader: Cindy Sandberg
The "T" is for Tight.
I'm guessing Cindy is anything but tight.
Quote from: flannj on December 30, 2014, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 30, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 07:18:55 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2014, 10:07:10 PM
TF Rafael Palmeiro (also read by the announcer as the RF)
That's fine. Harry never quite overcame the urge to call him "Palermo".
How did RF become TF in your quote? That's impressive work.
Intrepid Reader: Cindy Sandberg
The "T" is for Tight.
I'm guessing Cindy is anything but tight.
Not anymore, at least.
Quote from: flannj on December 30, 2014, 07:30:24 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 04:53:32 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 30, 2014, 03:43:52 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 07:18:55 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 29, 2014, 10:07:10 PM
TF Rafael Palmeiro (also read by the announcer as the RF)
That's fine. Harry never quite overcame the urge to call him "Palermo".
How did RF become TF in your quote? That's impressive work.
Intrepid Reader: Cindy Sandberg
The "T" is for Tight.
I'm guessing Cindy is anything but tight.
Was suggesting that's how Cindy felt about Raffy but I'm cool with anything that continues to get mileage out of this.
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 09:40:32 PM
Was suggesting that's how Cindy felt about Raffy but I'm cool with anything that continues to get mileage out of this.
I'd prefer to not let Cindy Sandberg's prolific cornhole distract us from the Desipio magic of you turning a quote into a typo again.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 30, 2014, 10:19:08 PM
Quote from: PANK! on December 30, 2014, 09:40:32 PM
Was suggesting that's how Cindy felt about Raffy but I'm cool with anything that continues to get mileage out of this.
I'd prefer to not let Cindy Sandberg's prolific cornhole distract us from the Desipio magic of you turning a quote into a typo again.
Pank gonna Pank