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Quote from: Eli on May 25, 2016, 07:29:23 PM
This is insane.

The thread title kinda sucks for a guy who has been fucking unbelievable.

Quote from: SKO on May 26, 2016, 07:26:13 AM

Quote from: PANK! on May 26, 2016, 06:09:56 AM
It seems to me that the cycles of the season are such right now that the Cubs might be playing Philadelphia at a pretty sweet time this weekend, and I won't be surprised or shocked if some normalization occurs--the Cubs hopefully cycling out of their recent 6-8 "funk" (wherein they still managed to out-score their opponents by 15 runs in that time), and Philadelphia coming back to earth at least a little after a 6-week start to their season that stands out as the most surprising story in baseball thus far (in a positive way).

What I'm trying to say here--and don't tell my dad I'm about to say this --is I feel like the Cubs are about to send the Phillies to the moon.  Woof.

I am neither supporting your hunch or condemning it, I just want to say that the Phillies (26-21) being 5 over with a -31 run differential is really something and I want ChuckD or someone to give me a list of the "best" teams with negative run differentials throughout history to see how unusual their start is.

I remember when the Cubs were like 10 games under and were only a couple runs below even and it felt like the structure was being put into place. With the Phillies this just feels like bizarre early season hoodoo.

That said, the Cubs played like shit against the Phillies last year so I'm very cautious about this series.

Quote from: Eli on May 24, 2016, 03:44:12 PM

Quote from: Slaky on May 24, 2016, 02:34:04 PM

Quote from: SKO on May 24, 2016, 12:08:32 PM
...In a fit of rage last night I nearly bumped the "Gutless Fucking Assholes" thread, but no. Not for this team. Never for this team.

It was an awful game. I turned off the TV before I saw the asshole round second base and went straight to bed.

Since MLB.tv lags anywhere from 10-8,000 seconds behind real-time events, I saw what happened on Twitter and was able to turn off the TV before Warren threw the pitch. So that was nice.

When I'm streaming the game, my Score app will flash a Final Score notification while the last batter is still hitting. I need to remember to turn it off but I keep forgetting. Modern life is a bitch.

Quote from: SKO on May 24, 2016, 12:08:32 PM
...In a fit of rage last night I nearly bumped the "Gutless Fucking Assholes" thread, but no. Not for this team. Never for this team.

It was an awful game. I turned off the TV before I saw the asshole round second base and went straight to bed.

Quote from: SKO on May 23, 2016, 02:50:19 PM

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Quote from: PenFoe on May 23, 2016, 12:39:48 PM

Quote from: PenFoe on March 29, 2016, 11:43:39 AM
I bought one of those "Try not to suck" t-shirts.

The money went to charity.

Which turned out to be an INCREDIBLY bad idea, because I won't wear the shirt in front of my kids, so it basically just sits in my drawer.  

Not well thought out, PenFoe.  

Still went to charity, I guess.

I'm still new at the dad thing, but why can't you wear it in front of the kids? Is "suck" a bad word? Maybe I'm just a bad dad.

Because once your kid realizes that's a word that might make you or other adults even slightly uncomfortable they will repeat it ad nauseam until they find a word that is worse.

My nephew has a habit of saying goddammit...

Stub your toe? He says "Goddammit, Seano, Goddammit"

As a young father a Saturday afternoon came up when I was left in charge of my two eldest while mrs. flannj was out for a well deserved afternoon with girlfriends.
After getting them fed, laundry done, all the household list taken care of and the younger one down for a nap I proceeded to grab a beer and relax in front of the TV and I put on a video of "Goodfellas" for another watching while the older son played with his Tonkas and Legos next to me.

Mrs. flannj returned later that afternoon to her previously adorable son walking around the house experimenting with the new word he had learned that day.

Let me assure you that having your wife arrive home with her 3 year old son proclaiming "fuck,fuck,fuck,fuck,fuck,fuck" for an entire evening will test even the best of marriages.

My redneck brother and his even more redneck ex-wife are in the middle of a very contentious custody battle, and because neither of them is smart enough to not trash the other in front of the kids they both pretty much get to hear my niece repeat whatever the other said.

My brother and I were trying to put together one of those battery powered jeeps for my niece and when we were having trouble getting the battery installed she said out loud "Cody fucked it up again". Not hard to guess where she got that one.

I recently told another driver behind the safety of my enclosed car to "eat my wiener" and James will bring it up every now and then. "Remember the time you said 'eat my wiener'?" and then he laughs and says "eat my wiener" until my wife yells at him.

Go Tribe

Quote from: CT III on May 20, 2016, 10:09:36 AM

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Quote from: Canadouche on May 19, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.

I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.

To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.

And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.

Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.

Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.

What an odious man he is.

Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.

A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0

What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?

Of course that's the part you focus on.

His career numbers and contract control are all fine and good, but he sucks now, and is trending downward...and what's the value in controlling shit?

Because it's entirely possible he's fixable, and 9 starts don't define a career? I mean, I don't want to defend the guy, I absolutely hope he's done because fuck him and fuck the Mets, but "nobody would trade for him" is laughable. A guy with his track record and potential? Somebody would take a chance on him. For fuck's sake the Cubs reigning Cy Young winner had a 5.46 ERA in 63 starts and still netted a middle of the rotation starter in a trade.

People will always gamble on a guy like that finding his shit again.

Matt Cain and Jake Peavy are pitching against the Cubs this weekend. In 2016 after years of being TERRIBLE, they are in the rotation for a team that is supposed to make the postseason.

Christ, TIM LINCECUM just got a new deal. JOE NATHAN is back in baseball again.

Fork you are wrong on this one.

Regular, old wrong doesn't do it.  This is aggressively wrong.

Also Harvey's FIP is 3.66. As long as this outing and the reports on his velocity drop don't mindfuck him so hard he loses all confidence in his spots, he'll be fine. Maybe not dominant but more than serviceable.

Quote from: SKO on May 20, 2016, 09:55:49 AM

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Quote from: Canadouche on May 19, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.

I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.

To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.

And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.

Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.

Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.

What an odious man he is.

Best thing is, there's probably not a team in baseball that would give up a bucket of sunflower seeds for him. The Mets are stuck with him.

A 27 year old with a 2.86 career ERA and two more years of control after this year? If the Cubs traded for him tomorrow you'd be telling everyone how quickly Bosio was going to right the ship and turn him into Jake Arrieta 2.0

What in the world makes you think he'd ever listen to Bosio?

Of course that's the part you focus on.

His career numbers and contract control are all fine and good, but he sucks now, and is trending downward...and what's the value in controlling shit?

Because it's entirely possible he's fixable, and 9 starts don't define a career? I mean, I don't want to defend the guy, I absolutely hope he's done because fuck him and fuck the Mets, but "nobody would trade for him" is laughable. A guy with his track record and potential? Somebody would take a chance on him. For fuck's sake the Cubs reigning Cy Young winner had a 5.46 ERA in 63 starts and still netted a middle of the rotation starter in a trade.

People will always gamble on a guy like that finding his shit again.

Matt Cain and Jake Peavy are pitching against the Cubs this weekend. In 2016 after years of being TERRIBLE, they are in the rotation for a team that is supposed to make the postseason.

Christ, TIM LINCECUM just got a new deal. JOE NATHAN is back in baseball again.

Fork you are wrong on this one.

Quote from: SKO on May 20, 2016, 09:07:47 AM

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Quote from: Canadouche on May 19, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.

I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.

To be fair, Harvey has mostly sucked all year long, he's clearly put on weight, and his fastball velocity is way down. He also took a huge hit in the press last year with the whole "I want to be shut down in the middle of a pennant race" thing and also the "railroaded his manager into leaving him in a world series game which he then blew" thing. I doubt there's quite as much vitriol people are holding in for Jake, although I'm sure there's a decent amount anyway just from jealousy.

And, as cocky as Jake is, he'd still never self-prescribe "The Dark Knight" as a nickname.

Wait. He gave himself that nickname? I thought it was bad enough when I thought Mets fans came up with it. Fuck that guy.

Yes, he did. It's the best part. I also did a quick "Matt Harvey" search on the twitter GIF pile and there's one of him naked, holding his junk with a baseball mitt.

What an odious man he is.

Quote from: Canadouche on May 19, 2016, 12:05:16 PM
File this one under my own mental disabilities (of which there are many) but I find it too stressful to watch Jake pitch lately. He's raised the bar so much to me that when he "struggles" (i.e., pitches better than 95% of the league) I get anxious. I realize I need to get over it, since I'm stressing out over one of, if not the greatest ongoing performances in the history of the game.

I have this same anxiety. Like the outside baseball world is waiting for him to have an outing like Matt Harvey did last night so they can laugh at him. Don't laugh at Jake. It makes me sad.

Quote from: PANK! on May 19, 2016, 04:03:47 PM

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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 11, 2016, 03:12:08 PM
Time for him to go down in the order until he gets it figured out.

before today he was 308/400/423 in the previous 7.

And then today happened and now it's harder to cherry-pick good stats for him.

Yeah 0-5 and stranding runners on base by the busload is making it hard for the most rhetorically limber of people to defend this guy right now.

He is definitely slumping. I think they should kill him.

Goddamn it.

Quote from: PenFoe on May 18, 2016, 11:28:25 PM
BUMP

God this thread title.

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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 18, 2016, 08:39:05 AM
A little internet hyperbole during a frustrating game and what do we get? The SKOPolice! 

Thank the lord you are here to point out that "always" not only isn't a great word choice, but but WRONG FOR ALL TIME!!!  Because, if you hadn't pointed that out... the universe gets sucked down a giant black hole vortex into a singularity?

Chuck prefers to live in a world where half-baked, petulant, knee-jerk (and utterly wrong) opinions go unchecked.  His life would be infinitely less complicated as a result.

There are bad takes and bad takes.  Julie's "Always make bad pitchers look great" vs. Bayless' "Kobe's rape gave him sizzle" are two different levels of bad take. One should be sloughed off.  The other never should be forgotten and should disqualify a person from being in broadcasting.

I would say there's a comfortable middle ground of "one tweet pointing out how dumb that tweet was" in between "sloughed off" and "perpetually reminding a dude that he's a rape apologist".

I for one will be following Huey's crusade to make sure that no dumb comment on the internet go unchallenged with great interest.

So, I was looking at this and wondering, did Julie say something to you and I missed it?  Because this shit didn't just happen in a vacuum. Julie's got a lot of people who simply attack her reflexively for almost any comment, and as a result there are now a lot of people who will automatically jump to her defense for any perceived attack, regardless of your intent.

I mean, basically Huey and SKO are mad because if they randomly say something to Julie some other randos might yell at them.

My question is, why are they such crybabies?

I guess I feel like SKO does raise an interesting larger issue. Yes, Julie endures an unbelievable amount of unfair shit from people. But there have been times with her where I've thought about replying/arguing/discussing something and ended up X'ing out of the window. Whereas if Jesse Rogers had said the same thing, I wouldn't have thought twice about sending it. I'm not really sure that means, but it certainly means something.

As stupid as Jesse Rogers is, no one has probably told him they want to rape his corpse.

Yeah, it's weird. I would never ever in a million years say she "gets a pass because she is a woman", because she is legitimately harassed by awful people literally any time she says anything. She undoubtedly has it worse than any of us because being a woman in sports has been proven to be an awful thing.

On the other hand, she is a media personality whose actual sports takes are often half-baked and meatball, and I almost never point that out like I would with Jesse (he's a good example of a nice, harmless idiot we often mock) because of the reflexive response a lot of people have when it comes to defending her.

So basically assholes being, like, scary rapist assholes have made it difficult for smarmy, internet assholes like me to just be a smarmy internet asshole to her the way I am to Chuck. I long for a utopian future where no one ever interprets me being a smarmy  internet asshole as anything more than just smarmy, gender-neutral assholery.

#notallassholes

I get that. And I didn't think what you guys said was out of line either (and in Huey's case it was funny), although I would agree with Slak that the quote tweet is generally interpreted as a provocation.

So yeah, if we had standard rules of order for the internet in which everything was level and fair and balanced, it'd be fine. Instead somebody yelled at you guys.

Because it turns out the rules aren't always the same for everybody and life might not be fair.



And Huey is butthurt that I called him a crybaby.

If only being called a crybaby was the worst thing people heard from strangers on the web.

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A little internet hyperbole during a frustrating game and what do we get? The SKOPolice! 

Thank the lord you are here to point out that "always" not only isn't a great word choice, but but WRONG FOR ALL TIME!!!  Because, if you hadn't pointed that out... the universe gets sucked down a giant black hole vortex into a singularity?

Chuck prefers to live in a world where half-baked, petulant, knee-jerk (and utterly wrong) opinions go unchecked.  His life would be infinitely less complicated as a result.

There are bad takes and bad takes.  Julie's "Always make bad pitchers look great" vs. Bayless' "Kobe's rape gave him sizzle" are two different levels of bad take. One should be sloughed off.  The other never should be forgotten and should disqualify a person from being in broadcasting.

I would say there's a comfortable middle ground of "one tweet pointing out how dumb that tweet was" in between "sloughed off" and "perpetually reminding a dude that he's a rape apologist".

I for one will be following Huey's crusade to make sure that no dumb comment on the internet go unchallenged with great interest.

So, I was looking at this and wondering, did Julie say something to you and I missed it?  Because this shit didn't just happen in a vacuum. Julie's got a lot of people who simply attack her reflexively for almost any comment, and as a result there are now a lot of people who will automatically jump to her defense for any perceived attack, regardless of your intent.

I mean, basically Huey and SKO are mad because if they randomly say something to Julie some other randos might yell at them.

My question is, why are they such crybabies?

I guess I feel like SKO does raise an interesting larger issue. Yes, Julie endures an unbelievable amount of unfair shit from people. But there have been times with her where I've thought about replying/arguing/discussing something and ended up X'ing out of the window. Whereas if Jesse Rogers had said the same thing, I wouldn't have thought twice about sending it. I'm not really sure that means, but it certainly means something.

As stupid as Jesse Rogers is, no one has probably told him they want to rape his corpse.

And while this true, it's also conflating 2 separate issues.  Because Julie is more likely to get attacked ad hominem by dipshits, does that mean taking apart something she says on merit is off-limits?  I mean Dan Bernstein faces some vile retorts because he's a public figure who can be incendiary.  Because of that, should we lay off saying something to him that he says on the merits of what he says? And if not, why?

You can do whatever you want. I gave my philosophy on it a few replies ago. It doesn't have to apply to anyone else but that's how I try and do things with my account.