2009 College Football Thread

[Internet Apex]

Those may be true- but that starts the argument, are you looking at which team is best, or which is most deserving?  That seems to be the main component of the Iowa argument.  I could argue that an undefeated Big 10 team deserves a chance at the national title, but I'd never argue that (in this case) they were better on a neutral field than LSU or USC or Northern Iowa.

Yeah.  They are only better than UNI in Iowa City and LSU in Orlando.

God fucking damnit. I did not want to root for Ohio State but look what Chuck is going to make me do. Fuck Iowa.

[World B Free]

Those may be true- but that starts the argument, are you looking at which team is best, or which is most deserving?  That seems to be the main component of the Iowa argument.  I could argue that an undefeated Big 10 team deserves a chance at the national title, but I'd never argue that (in this case) they were better on a neutral field than LSU or USC or Northern Iowa.

Yeah.  They are only better than UNI in Iowa City and LSU in Orlando.

God fucking damnit. I did not want to root for Ohio State but look what Chuck is going to make me do. Fuck Iowa.

I can't stand Texas or Iowa.  Screw them both.

[SKO]

Those may be true- but that starts the argument, are you looking at which team is best, or which is most deserving?  That seems to be the main component of the Iowa argument.  I could argue that an undefeated Big 10 team deserves a chance at the national title, but I'd never argue that (in this case) they were better on a neutral field than LSU or USC or Northern Iowa.

Yeah.  They are only better than UNI in Iowa City and LSU in Orlando.

Now we're arguing about 2005.

Ivy beat me too it, but let's focus on some Chucktradictions in this thread:

A)Iowa is better than Texas, because they beat teams that are ranked (or were ranked at the time) by abitrary, biased human pollsters. That makes Iowa's case stronger than Texas.

II) Woah, slow the fuck down, who cares if the every human pollster has Texas ahead of Iowa, only the BCS computers matter, abitrary rankings mean nothing.

3)I want non-biased, rational evidence

X) Fuck all of your statistics that show Texas ahead of Iowa in offensive and defensive ppg, as well as offensive and defensive ypg, Iowa beat ranked teams.

12) Last year doesn't matter, but I'm gonna use a bowl game from 2005 as evidence that Iowa can beat 2009 LSU.

G) Texas' 3 point win against Oklahoma on a neutral site is no big "whup," but Iowa's 1 pt and 3 point victories over UNI and Arkansas State at home should not be counted against them, because Iowa plays a tougher schedule, or something.

XV) GO HAWKEYES

[Internet Apex]

Those may be true- but that starts the argument, are you looking at which team is best, or which is most deserving?  That seems to be the main component of the Iowa argument.  I could argue that an undefeated Big 10 team deserves a chance at the national title, but I'd never argue that (in this case) they were better on a neutral field than LSU or USC or Northern Iowa.

Yeah.  They are only better than UNI in Iowa City and LSU in Orlando.

God fucking damnit. I did not want to root for Ohio State but look what Chuck is going to make me do. Fuck Iowa.

I can't stand Texas or Iowa.  Screw them both.

This.

[Internet Apex]

Those may be true- but that starts the argument, are you looking at which team is best, or which is most deserving?  That seems to be the main component of the Iowa argument.  I could argue that an undefeated Big 10 team deserves a chance at the national title, but I'd never argue that (in this case) they were better on a neutral field than LSU or USC or Northern Iowa.

Yeah.  They are only better than UNI in Iowa City and LSU in Orlando.

Now we're arguing about 2005.

Ivy beat me too it, but let's focus on some Chucktradictions in this thread:

A)Iowa is better than Texas, because they beat teams that are ranked (or were ranked at the time) by abitrary, biased human pollsters. That makes Iowa's case stronger than Texas.

II) Woah, slow the fuck down, who cares if the every human pollster has Texas ahead of Iowa, only the BCS computers matter, abitrary rankings mean nothing.

3)I want non-biased, rational evidence

X) Fuck all of your statistics that show Texas ahead of Iowa in offensive and defensive ppg, as well as offensive and defensive ypg, Iowa beat ranked teams.

12) Last year doesn't matter, but I'm gonna use a bowl game from 2005 as evidence that Iowa can beat 2009 LSU.

G) Texas' 3 point win against Oklahoma on a neutral site is no big "whup," but Iowa's 1 pt and 3 point victories over UNI and Arkansas State at home should not be counted against them, because Iowa plays a tougher schedule, or something.

XV) GO HAWKEYES

10.17 (c): Profit!

[World B Free]

And if we're really going to beat that old conference strength argument to death, I think there are some SEC fans that might take exception to how strong the Big 10 or Big 12 is right now.

[Chuck to Chuck]

Wait:  Last year2005?  WTF does last year 2005 have to do with anything?

I'm assuming you are kidding.

But, of course!  How the fuck do Joseph Addai and Jamarcus Russell get beat by Winny the Pooh's Sterling Holloway?

[SKO]

And if we're really going to beat that old conference strength argument to death, I think there are some SEC fans that might take exception to how strong the Big 10 or Big 12 is right now.

Oh that's been covered as well. The only hooligans arguing the Big 10 is stronger than either of those conferences are the only ones whose favorite team would profit from that line of thinking.

[Ivy6]

Wait:  Last year2005?  WTF does last year 2005 have to do with anything?

I'm assuming you are kidding.

But, of course!  How the fuck do Joseph Addai and Jamarcus Russell get beat by Winny the Pooh's Sterling Holloway?

Because neither one of those players turned out to be very good at football.  Especially Jalfonso Russoriano.

[World B Free]

And if we're really going to beat that old conference strength argument to death, I think there are some SEC fans that might take exception to how strong the Big 10 or Big 12 is right now.

Oh that's been covered as well. The only hooligans arguing the Big 10 is stronger than either of those conferences are the only ones whose favorite team would profit from that line of thinking.

As a Wisconsin alum and Big 10 fan, I'd love for the conference to be strong, but right now it is pretty mediocre.  Even though it's Iowa, it is good for the conference to have a high ranked team in the top 25.  Lots of football to be played however and those conference championship games are notorious for screwing up the BCS (which I love, the BCS is stupid)

[Internet Apex]

And if we're really going to beat that old conference strength argument to death, I think there are some SEC fans that might take exception to how strong the Big 10 or Big 12 is right now.

Oh that's been covered as well. The only hooligans arguing the Big 10 is stronger than either of those conferences are the only ones whose favorite team would profit from that line of thinking.

As a Wisconsin alum and Big 10 fan, I'd love for the conference to be strong, but right now it is pretty mediocre.  Even though it's Iowa, it is good for the conference to have a high ranked team in the top 25.  Lots of football to be played however and those conference championship games are notorious for screwing up the BCS (which I love, the BCS is stupid)

Right. Let's all calm down, relax and enjoy looking forward to Iowa's blowout Rose Bowl loss to USC. All is right in the world after all.

[World B Free]

And if we're really going to beat that old conference strength argument to death, I think there are some SEC fans that might take exception to how strong the Big 10 or Big 12 is right now.

Oh that's been covered as well. The only hooligans arguing the Big 10 is stronger than either of those conferences are the only ones whose favorite team would profit from that line of thinking.

As a Wisconsin alum and Big 10 fan, I'd love for the conference to be strong, but right now it is pretty mediocre.  Even though it's Iowa, it is good for the conference to have a high ranked team in the top 25.  Lots of football to be played however and those conference championship games are notorious for screwing up the BCS (which I love, the BCS is stupid)

Right. Let's all calm down, relax and enjoy looking forward to Iowa's blowout Rose Bowl loss to USC. All is right in the world after all.

That would just remind me of growing up in the '70s and 80's.  Nothing to see here.

[Kermit, B.]

I also made a typo when saying the Big 12 was 2-0 against the Big Ten in bowls last year. They were 3-0. I did count it right in the overall, so still a 9-3 Big 12 advantage.

Last year, the Cubs won 97 games.  Should they have gotten credit for that this year?

Maybe Illinois should have the death penalty on them today for football because of Hart Lee Dykes.

Then again, such might not actually be a penalty.

You do know that MLB baseball is a pretty different sport than NCAA football, right?

[Chuck to Chuck]

I also made a typo when saying the Big 12 was 2-0 against the Big Ten in bowls last year. They were 3-0. I did count it right in the overall, so still a 9-3 Big 12 advantage.

Last year, the Cubs won 97 games.  Should they have gotten credit for that this year?

Maybe Illinois should have the death penalty on them today for football because of Hart Lee Dykes.

Then again, such might not actually be a penalty.

You do know that MLB baseball is a pretty different sport than NCAA football, right?

As well as you know that 2008 is pretty different from 2009.

[Kermit, B.]

I also made a typo when saying the Big 12 was 2-0 against the Big Ten in bowls last year. They were 3-0. I did count it right in the overall, so still a 9-3 Big 12 advantage.

Last year, the Cubs won 97 games.  Should they have gotten credit for that this year?

Maybe Illinois should have the death penalty on them today for football because of Hart Lee Dykes.

Then again, such might not actually be a penalty.

You do know that MLB baseball is a pretty different sport than NCAA football, right?

As well as you know that 2008 is pretty different from 2009.

Not really.  2008 is just like 2009.  I'm sitting around crying in my beer instead of caring about the World Series.