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Title: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 01, 2009, 02:41:18 PM
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QuoteTuesday, August 4

Tom Gorzelanny, LHP (3-1, 5.19) vs Johnny Cueto, RHP (8-8, 4.06)

Scouting Report:
Cubs: The Cubs acquired Gorzelanny on Thursday from the Pirates, and the lefty will make his debut and return to the big leagues in this game. He's been pitching for Triple-A Indianapolis, and was 4-3 with a 2.48 in 15 games. In July, Gorzelanny had a 1.11 ERA, giving up four earned runs over 32 1/3 innings in five games. Former Pirates GM Dave Littlefield, now a special assistant to Cubs GM Jim Hendry, had scouted Gorzelanny, who did pitch for Pittsburgh from May 18-June 9, but only in relief. He was strictly a starter in the Minors. In fact, Gorzelanny picked up a win in relief against the Cubs on May 25.

Reds: Cueto had another rough outing against the Padres last Thursday. He gave up six runs in just five innings as he lost his fourth consecutive game. The big blow to Cueto came in the fifth when he allowed a three-run homer to Will Venable which gave the Padres a 6-1 lead. Cueto has given up 26 runs over his last five starts while throwing just 22 2/3 innings. He will look to break out of his slump against the Cubs who beat him July 25. In that start, Cueto allowed four runs over six innings.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: MAD on August 01, 2009, 09:42:40 PM
There's way to much premature ejaculation going on around here.  I remember a simpler time, when we would commence splooge threads to celebrate those that have actually done something(s) good.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 01, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on August 01, 2009, 09:42:40 PM
There's way to much premature ejaculation going on around here.  I remember a simpler time, when we would commence splooge threads to celebrate those that have actually done something(s) good.

It just looks like he's splooging in virtually every picture, so I figured why not.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_g5-bZ38yOUE/Rl0EzezuH0I/AAAAAAAAAPE/eoUC-Hb29Qo/s320/gorzysloth.jpg)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/06/tom-gorzelanny.jpg)

(http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/Images/Examples/Example_ScapularLoading_Good_TomGorzelanny_2007_002.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EBQQQde8-PA/RjJfxB9FzyI/AAAAAAAAAZs/JG85WLZYxJg/s200/gorzelanny.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/noyphh.jpg)
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 03, 2009, 09:00:18 AM

OK, so should we start calling him "Zippy" or "Pinhead"?
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on August 04, 2009, 09:07:30 PM
Splooge.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Ghost of Dave Rosello on August 04, 2009, 09:08:38 PM
How is Pittsburgh in last place if they have five starters better than this guy?
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: RV on August 04, 2009, 09:17:40 PM
Baaaby Ruuuth!

Nice game, ya freak.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: BH on August 04, 2009, 09:18:26 PM
DPGR?
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Weebs on August 04, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
I was going to post in here that Gorzo was going to be the bigger part of that trade.  Finally a Weebs prediction that wasn't completely obvious, and yet there's no record of it ever happening.  FAIL.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: CBStew on August 04, 2009, 10:40:31 PM
Quote from: PiniellaTailOnTheDonkey on August 01, 2009, 09:51:11 PM
Quote from: MAD on August 01, 2009, 09:42:40 PM
There's way to much premature ejaculation going on around here.  I remember a simpler time, when we would commence splooge threads to celebrate those that have actually done something(s) good.

It just looks like he's splooging in virtually every picture, so I figured why not.

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_g5-bZ38yOUE/Rl0EzezuH0I/AAAAAAAAAPE/eoUC-Hb29Qo/s320/gorzysloth.jpg)

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.fanhouse.com/media/2008/06/tom-gorzelanny.jpg)

(http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Baseball/Pitching/Images/Examples/Example_ScapularLoading_Good_TomGorzelanny_2007_002.jpg)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_EBQQQde8-PA/RjJfxB9FzyI/AAAAAAAAAZs/JG85WLZYxJg/s200/gorzelanny.jpg)

(http://i41.tinypic.com/noyphh.jpg)


A face made for radio
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: ChuckD on August 04, 2009, 10:47:37 PM
Call me crazy, but I'm withholding splooge until he pitches this well against a Major League offense.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: BC on August 05, 2009, 12:12:30 AM
I predict he pitches longer for the Cubs than the other recent number 22's.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: PenFoe on August 05, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
Pirates to pay for giving up on Gorzy (http://ctb.nbcsports.com/2009/08/pirates-to-pay-for-giving-up-on-gorzy.html.php)
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Internet Apex on August 05, 2009, 08:07:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on August 05, 2009, 04:46:16 PM
Pirates to pay for giving up on Gorzy (http://ctb.nbcsports.com/2009/08/pirates-to-pay-for-giving-up-on-gorzy.html.php)

QuoteGorzelanny has had elbow issues in the past, and we know from last year that he can lose his command and become completely useless in the blink of an eye.

That's cool. I just won't blink. Ever. Again.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: ChuckD on August 10, 2009, 08:28:06 PM
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd, scene.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Brownie on August 10, 2009, 08:31:26 PM
This is about as close as you can get to the 1985 Cubs.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Internet Apex on August 10, 2009, 08:43:10 PM
I think I just heard Rick Sutcliffe's hamstring snap again.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 11, 2010, 03:21:39 PM
He did his job today. 

Everyone else sucked ass.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Internet Apex on April 11, 2010, 04:17:30 PM
I thought Kosuke was good again. I'm a little worried about Ramirez. Should I be?
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Slaky on April 11, 2010, 04:57:05 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 11, 2010, 04:17:30 PM
I thought Kosuke was good again. I'm a little worried about Ramirez. Should I be?

No.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on April 11, 2010, 05:02:21 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 11, 2010, 04:17:30 PM
I thought Kosuke was good again. I'm a little worried about Ramirez. Should I be?

No, but yes on Theriot, Soriano and Soto.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Armchair_QB on April 11, 2010, 05:28:22 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 11, 2010, 05:02:21 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 11, 2010, 04:17:30 PM
I thought Kosuke was good again. I'm a little worried about Ramirez. Should I be?

No, but yes on Theriot, Soriano and Soto.

I'm not worried about Theriot.

Actually, that's not true. I'm worried he'll still be here at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on April 11, 2010, 08:56:40 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 11, 2010, 05:02:21 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 11, 2010, 04:17:30 PM
I thought Kosuke was good again. I'm a little worried about Ramirez. Should I be?

No, but yes on Theriot, Soriano and Soto.

We already know Soriano is a complete suckass.  Theriot should be okay, but I'm a little worried about Soto.  Ramirez has hit the ball hard in most games I've seen so far (two).

I'm not worried about the rotation, but I'm terrified of the bullpen.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Internet Apex on April 12, 2010, 12:05:55 AM
So Ramirez has no lingering effects in that shoulder right now? That's reassuring. It always helps to talk to you guys.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: SKO on April 12, 2010, 07:44:04 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 12, 2010, 12:05:55 AM
So Ramirez has no lingering effects in that shoulder right now? That's reassuring. It always helps to talk to you guys.

I would think any questions about the shoulder would have disappeared when he hit .304/11/49/.381/.496/.877 in his 64 games after returning last year. If anything, I'd say this is just a bad April for him where he's struggled to get his timing down. His pitch selection hasn't been that awful, he's just been slightly ahead or behind when he gets his pitch to hit. A lot of balls fouled back or popped up. He was limited a bit in the spring for some minor injury and he's just slightly behind. He's had some slow starts before. He was the balls in April the last couple years but in 05 and 06 he posted lines of .241/4/14/.344/.458/.802 and .197/4/10/.321/.394/.716 before going on to have great years.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: SKO on April 12, 2010, 07:49:27 AM
DPD. My problem with Soto is his tentativeness. He did well yesterday just to take two walks when they weren't going to give him anything to hit, but in most of the at-bats I've seen where they even pitch to him, the best pitch he gets to hit is the first one and he never swings at it.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 12, 2010, 07:53:34 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 12, 2010, 07:49:27 AM
DPD. My problem with Soto is his tentativeness. He did well yesterday just to take two walks when they weren't going to give him anything to hit, but in most of the at-bats I've seen where they even pitch to him, the best pitch he gets to hit is the first one and he never swings at it.

Did he spend the winter working with Sandberg?
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Saul Goodman on May 02, 2010, 05:54:07 PM
BUMP
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on May 03, 2010, 07:43:02 AM
Has GorzeSloth always been topping out around 92-93 on his fastball?  It seemed like he had a little extra on it.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 03, 2010, 08:02:03 AM
seamed.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 03, 2010, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 03, 2010, 07:43:02 AM
Has GorzeSloth always been topping out around 92-93 on his fastball?  It seemed like he had a little extra on it.

I don't know, but I think being spotted an eight-run lead early helped.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Slaky on May 03, 2010, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 03, 2010, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 03, 2010, 07:43:02 AM
Has GorzeSloth always been topping out around 92-93 on his fastball?  It seemed like he had a little extra on it.

I don't know, but I think being spotted an eight-run lead early helped.

An eight run lead made him throw harder?
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 03, 2010, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 03, 2010, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 03, 2010, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 03, 2010, 07:43:02 AM
Has GorzeSloth always been topping out around 92-93 on his fastball?  It seemed like he had a little extra on it.

I don't know, but I think being spotted an eight-run lead early helped.

An eight run lead made him throw harder?

It can certainly contribute to a "fuck it & chuck it" approach, instead of trying to be too fine.
Title: Re: Gorzesplooge?
Post by: Internet Apex on May 03, 2010, 07:10:53 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 03, 2010, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 03, 2010, 09:30:13 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 03, 2010, 09:00:29 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 03, 2010, 07:43:02 AM
Has GorzeSloth always been topping out around 92-93 on his fastball?  It seemed like he had a little extra on it.

I don't know, but I think being spotted an eight-run lead early helped.

An eight run lead made him throw harder?

It can certainly contribute to a "fuck it & chuck it" approach, instead of trying to be too fine.

I think that's what Grabow was doing to be absolutely sure. Gorzo was throwing some nasty breaking balls up there. I'm not saying he'll do that all year, but if Sean Marshall can be decent, I don't see why Gorzo can't. I think they're pretty close to the same pitcher with Gorzo having a decided edge in stamina, Marshall having a bigger bender. And there'd be a 15-round, brutal but anti-climactic draw in the ugly department.