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Dr. Nguyen Van Falk

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2010, 11:43:02 AM »
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.


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Second Hand Lions?

WTF?
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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2010, 11:46:30 AM »
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.


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Second Hand Lions?

WTF?

My reaction exactly.
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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2010, 11:55:03 AM »
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.


[ Googling... ]

Second Hand Lions?

WTF?

Tank just wants to act like he didn't know that beforehand.

Internet Apex

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2010, 11:57:46 AM »
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 11:55:03 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.


[ Googling... ]

Second Hand Lions?

WTF?

Tank just wants to act like he didn't know that beforehand.

Rod Marinelli said all that? No wonder everybody loves that guy.
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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2010, 12:21:13 PM »
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 17, 2010, 11:43:02 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 17, 2010, 11:05:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on February 17, 2010, 10:46:45 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 17, 2010, 09:24:49 AM
Quote from: BH on February 17, 2010, 08:31:05 AM
Update on the Bobby Depaul signing. On the score this morning, they said that Depaul wasn't a Lovie yes man and they suspected this was the reason he was fired. It was also said that he brought in 14 of the players on our last Super Bowl team, not angelo.

What else did they say? And what word from Slezak?

I'm sure that, because we're all so god damned angry about the totally fucked up situation in the Bears front office and we'd like to believe someone on the inside is just as mad, we're going to make DePaul out to be the here who stood up bravely to Lovie and Jerry and screamed "None shall pass! The bullshit-toleration stops here!" and that he got axed for his heroics, but my guess is, with the timing and the fact that he had to be escorted out, that he simply stole money or nailed somebody's wife and just got fired for non-football related reasons. I doubt this is a sign of dissent amongst the legion of the inept.

I disagree.  I choose to believe he was fired for his intolerance towards bullshit.

Sometimes the things that may or may not be true are the things a man needs to believe in the most. That people are basically good; that honor, courage, and virtue mean everything; that power and money, money and power mean nothing; that good always triumphs over evil; and I want you to remember this, that bullshit....bullshit should never be tolerated. You remember that, boy. You remember that. Doesn't matter if it's true or not. You see, a man should believe in those things, because those are the things worth believing in.


[ Googling... ]

Second Hand Lions?

WTF?

Second Hand Lions is by far the most appropriate name of a movie to take a quote from about this coaching staff.

SKO

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2010, 01:17:31 PM »
I make no apologies. I enjoy that film. Robert Duvall charms me.
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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #21 on: February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM »
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #22 on: February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM »
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #23 on: February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM »
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Oleg

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #24 on: February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM »
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2010, 09:57:14 AM »
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

I'm glad you said that, because I have to admit, I was hurt and angered by your comment.  Thanks, man.

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2010, 09:58:52 AM »
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

I'm glad you said that, because I have to admit, I was hurt and angered by your comment.  Thanks, man.

Yeah, I sensed that.  We cool?

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #27 on: February 20, 2010, 09:59:46 AM »
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:58:52 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

I'm glad you said that, because I have to admit, I was hurt and angered by your comment.  Thanks, man.

Yeah, I sensed that.  We cool?

We're cool.

Dr. Nguyen Van Falk

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #28 on: February 20, 2010, 10:26:10 AM »
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

I'm glad you said that, because I have to admit, I was hurt and angered by your comment.  Thanks, man.

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Re: 2010-11 Chicago Bears: The Last Time You'll See Utler Alive
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2010, 10:30:31 AM »
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:59:46 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:58:52 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:57:14 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:48:11 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:44:39 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 20, 2010, 09:42:49 AM
Quote from: CT III on February 20, 2010, 09:39:56 AM
The team is guaranteed to be better next year, after all, how else could they justify raising ticket prices?

http://www.southtownstar.com/sports/2059580,022110sptbears.article

Quote''The biggest goal we have financially is to remain economically competitive with other teams in the league with the goal of building a championship team, obviously,'' Phillips said. ''Given the fact that we have the smallest stadium capacity in the league (and) we pay one of, if not the highest, amusement tax of any team ... just to keep our ticket revenues in the middle of the pack, more often than not we're going to have to increase most of the ticket prices every year.''

Now, I'm not really bothered by the ticket increase (I haven't been to a game in years, and probably won't break that streak this year), but did Phillips really just site the capacity of the stadium as one of the reasons they need to do this?  The stadium that the fucking Bears just rebuilt to their own specifications using public fucking money?  Christ.  I hope Ted Phillips and the entire McCaskey family get the flesh eating virus.

Can we just have Slaky finish these sentences?

I couldn't find him anywhere.

Do we have some sort of a Slaky signal?

Also, that comment wasn't a slight against you, CT.  It's just that he's so good at these things.  Like Wheezer is at confusing the shit out of us and Kurt is at narcissism.  It's all very scientific.

I'm glad you said that, because I have to admit, I was hurt and angered by your comment.  Thanks, man.

Yeah, I sensed that.  We cool?

We're cool.

Hug it out, bitches.

I just heard Rosendouche on the SCORE lamenting that Jerry Angelo drafted Cedric Benson in the first round when he CLEARLY had a better running back in Thomas Jones.   That's funny.  I don't remember Jones ending the 2004 as anything other than a borderline journeyman who may or may not have finally justified his first-round status by averaging 67 yards per game with the Bears--his third team in 5 NFL seasons.  
I think he's more of the appendix of Desipio.  Yeah, it's here and you're vaguely aware of it, but only if reminded.  The only time anyone notices it is when it ruptures (on Weebs in the video game thread).  Beyond that, though, it's basically useless and offers no redeeming value.
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