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Title: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: CBStew on June 21, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
Now that the season is over and Piniella has abdicated, the popular outcry is that Sandberg becomes the new field manager.  I wonder if that is the best that the Cubs can do?  Don't get me wrong.  For years I was a major fan of Sandberg, the player.  But it is going to take more than nostalgia to get me to accept that this guy who couldn't put together a coherent sentence of more that six words is the answer that we are looking for.  And don't offer Casey Stengel as the example of an idiot savant who could turn out consistent World Series winners.  My mother-in-law, may she rest in peace knew nothing about baseball, but she could have managed all of those Yankee teams to World Series victories, even if all she did was to stay in her kitchen and bake noodle kugels. 
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on June 21, 2010, 05:43:22 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 21, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
Now that the season is over and Piniella has abdicated...

Curious what this refers to, I did a Google news search on Uncle Lou, only to happen upon this...

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/18/us/18cncsports.html

QuoteTaking on Stone? Not a Good Move, Piniella
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 21, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
Now that the season is over and Piniella has abdicated, the popular outcry is that Sandberg becomes the new field manager.  I wonder if that is the best that the Cubs can do?  Don't get me wrong.  For years I was a major fan of Sandberg, the player.  But it is going to take more than nostalgia to get me to accept that this guy who couldn't put together a coherent sentence of more that six words is the answer that we are looking for.  And don't offer Casey Stengel as the example of an idiot savant who could turn out consistent World Series winners.  My mother-in-law, may she rest in peace knew nothing about baseball, but she could have managed all of those Yankee teams to World Series victories, even if all she did was to stay in her kitchen and bake noodle kugels. 

I never liked kugel.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 21, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
Now that the season is over and Piniella has abdicated, the popular outcry is that Sandberg becomes the new field manager.  I wonder if that is the best that the Cubs can do?  Don't get me wrong.  For years I was a major fan of Sandberg, the player.  But it is going to take more than nostalgia to get me to accept that this guy who couldn't put together a coherent sentence of more that six words is the answer that we are looking for.  And don't offer Casey Stengel as the example of an idiot savant who could turn out consistent World Series winners.  My mother-in-law, may she rest in peace knew nothing about baseball, but she could have managed all of those Yankee teams to World Series victories, even if all she did was to stay in her kitchen and bake noodle kugels. 

I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

Unless you've only had that horrid sweet one with raisins, because that kind should be condemned to an eternity being ordered around by octogenarian Jewish women complaining that "it's too cold in here" even though the thermostat is set at 82.

Oh, and I vote Brenly.

Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: CT III on June 21, 2010, 06:05:44 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 21, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
Now that the season is over and Piniella has abdicated, the popular outcry is that Sandberg becomes the new field manager.  I wonder if that is the best that the Cubs can do?  Don't get me wrong.  For years I was a major fan of Sandberg, the player.  But it is going to take more than nostalgia to get me to accept that this guy who couldn't put together a coherent sentence of more that six words is the answer that we are looking for.  And don't offer Casey Stengel as the example of an idiot savant who could turn out consistent World Series winners.  My mother-in-law, may she rest in peace knew nothing about baseball, but she could have managed all of those Yankee teams to World Series victories, even if all she did was to stay in her kitchen and bake noodle kugels. 

I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

Unless you've only had that horrid sweet one with raisins, because that kind should be condemned to an eternity being ordered around by octogenarian Jewish women complaining that "it's too cold in here" even though the thermostat is set at 82.

Oh, and I vote Brenly.



Joe Girardi!

No wait, we shouldn't want Girardi because he couldn't get along with that fucktard owner in Florida.  Clearly the guy is unstable and can't work well with difficult personalities and will never win a World Series.

Right Chuck?

/never forget
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

I've never encountered a particularly good potato kugel. The whole idea seems to be to expand on the weakest attribute of latkes, their siren call to excessive thickness.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

I've never encountered a particularly good potato kugel. The whole idea seems to be to expand on the weakest attribute of latkes, their siren call to excessive thickness.

Potato kugel also sucks.
I peeled and shredded 10 lbs of potatoes once like a common TEC, and that was the end of that.

Straight-up noodle kugel, not sweet, just thick, eggy and a little greasy.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

I've never encountered a particularly good potato kugel. The whole idea seems to be to expand on the weakest attribute of latkes, their siren call to excessive thickness.

Potato kugel also sucks.
I peeled and shredded 10 lbs of potatoes once like a common TEC, and that was the end of that.

Try "catering" the latke half of the Latke-Hamentashen Debate with a total of two people and only a six-pack of Ballantine tallboys. I've yet to come across a Hillel kitchen that didn't look like somebody had just suffered a psychotic break.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: CBStew on June 21, 2010, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 07:10:11 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

I've never encountered a particularly good potato kugel. The whole idea seems to be to expand on the weakest attribute of latkes, their siren call to excessive thickness.

Potato kugel also sucks.
I peeled and shredded 10 lbs of potatoes once like a common TEC, and that was the end of that.

Try "catering" the latke half of the Latke-Hamentashen Debate with a total of two people and only a six-pack of Ballantine tallboys. I've yet to come across a Hillel kitchen that didn't look like somebody had just suffered a psychotic break.


My mother used to get a breast of veal and then cut a pocket between the ribs and the meat, and stuff the pocket with a well seasoned (garlic) potato kugel and bake it with onions and olive oil.  Is it any wonder that I now swallow Lipitor like after dinner mints?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

I've never encountered a particularly good potato kugel. The whole idea seems to be to expand on the weakest attribute of latkes, their siren call to excessive thickness.

Potato kugel also sucks.
I peeled and shredded 10 lbs of potatoes once like a common TEC, and that was the end of that.

Straight-up noodle kugel, not sweet, just thick, eggy and a little greasy.

That's it - I've only had sweet kugel with fucking corn flakes on it. I hate it. Is there a savory kugel I didn't know about? I loved my dearly departed grandmother but she's got some explaining to do.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

I've never encountered a particularly good potato kugel. The whole idea seems to be to expand on the weakest attribute of latkes, their siren call to excessive thickness.

Potato kugel also sucks.
I peeled and shredded 10 lbs of potatoes once like a common TEC, and that was the end of that.

Straight-up noodle kugel, not sweet, just thick, eggy and a little greasy.

That's it - I've only had sweet kugel with fucking corn flakes on it. I hate it. Is there a savory kugel I didn't know about? I loved my dearly departed grandmother but she's got some explaining to do.

Now you have a problem with corn flakes?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 21, 2010, 09:43:22 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 21, 2010, 06:05:44 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 21, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
Now that the season is over and Piniella has abdicated, the popular outcry is that Sandberg becomes the new field manager.  I wonder if that is the best that the Cubs can do?  Don't get me wrong.  For years I was a major fan of Sandberg, the player.  But it is going to take more than nostalgia to get me to accept that this guy who couldn't put together a coherent sentence of more that six words is the answer that we are looking for.  And don't offer Casey Stengel as the example of an idiot savant who could turn out consistent World Series winners.  My mother-in-law, may she rest in peace knew nothing about baseball, but she could have managed all of those Yankee teams to World Series victories, even if all she did was to stay in her kitchen and bake noodle kugels. 

I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

Unless you've only had that horrid sweet one with raisins, because that kind should be condemned to an eternity being ordered around by octogenarian Jewish women complaining that "it's too cold in here" even though the thermostat is set at 82.

Oh, and I vote Brenly.



Joe Girardi!

No wait, we shouldn't want Girardi because he couldn't get along with that fucktard owner in Florida.  Clearly the guy is unstable and can't work well with difficult personalities and will never win a World Series.

Right Chuck?

/never forget

I know I was anti-Girardi (and still am because he is a tad unstable), but I'm not certain I said never.

And noodle kugel is awesome.  Further, corn flakes on it is terrible.  The flakes need to be Tony's THEIR GREAAAAT!!! Frosted variety.  Now we're talking delish.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 21, 2010, 09:43:22 PM
And noodle kugel is awesome. Further, corn flakes on it is terrible. The flakes need to be Tony's THEIR GREAAAAT!!! Frosted variety.  Now we're talking delish.

Once I was stashed for hours and hours at a Stooges marathon in a gymnasium. Somebody's mom had picked all the Crunch Berries out of boxes and boxes of cereal and then passed them out in quart bags as a pacification device. Have Rocket, Will Travel, at the very least.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on June 21, 2010, 10:05:25 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 10:00:55 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 21, 2010, 09:43:22 PM
And noodle kugel is awesome. Further, corn flakes on it is terrible. The flakes need to be Tony's THEIR GREAAAAT!!! Frosted variety.  Now we're talking delish.

Once I was stashed for hours and hours at a Stooges marathon in a gymnasium. Somebody's mom had picked all the Crunch Berries out of boxes and boxes of cereal and then passed them out in quart bags as a pacification device. Have Rocket, Will Travel, at the very least.

Crunch Berries are god's gift to me.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: BBM on June 21, 2010, 10:20:54 PM
Ryne Sandberg? I'd rather see the Hawk as GM/Manager/Rightfielder/Overall Badass

Only the cubs would make a move this dumb in a year when Joe Madden is possibly on the market.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 10:22:06 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

I've never encountered a particularly good potato kugel. The whole idea seems to be to expand on the weakest attribute of latkes, their siren call to excessive thickness.

Potato kugel also sucks.
I peeled and shredded 10 lbs of potatoes once like a common TEC, and that was the end of that.

Straight-up noodle kugel, not sweet, just thick, eggy and a little greasy.

That's it - I've only had sweet kugel with fucking corn flakes on it. I hate it. Is there a savory kugel I didn't know about? I loved my dearly departed grandmother but she's got some explaining to do.

Now you have a problem with corn flakes?

A noodle dish that's served with dinner shouldn't taste sweet. I don't think it was the corn flakes' fault but they were involved and are thusly implicated.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 21, 2010, 10:55:05 PM
You know guys, we have a room for food.

MODS!
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 11:30:37 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 10:22:06 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 09:37:03 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 09:14:53 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2010, 06:43:29 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

I've never encountered a particularly good potato kugel. The whole idea seems to be to expand on the weakest attribute of latkes, their siren call to excessive thickness.

Potato kugel also sucks.
I peeled and shredded 10 lbs of potatoes once like a common TEC, and that was the end of that.

Straight-up noodle kugel, not sweet, just thick, eggy and a little greasy.

That's it - I've only had sweet kugel with fucking corn flakes on it. I hate it. Is there a savory kugel I didn't know about? I loved my dearly departed grandmother but she's got some explaining to do.

Now you have a problem with corn flakes?

A noodle dish that's served with dinner shouldn't taste sweet. I don't think it was the corn flakes' fault but they were involved and are thusly implicated.

So if I put apricots on top of a tuna casserole, the tuna is "implicated"?

[As a matter of full disclosure, I may be OK with canned pears set in lime Jell-O, served on a leaf of romaine with a dollop of homemade mayo.]
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on June 22, 2010, 07:49:55 AM
Quote from: BBM on June 21, 2010, 10:20:54 PM
Ryne Sandberg? I'd rather see the Hawk as GM/Manager/Rightfielder/Overall Badass

Only the cubs would make a move this dumb in a year when Joe Madden is possibly on the market.

Oh, great another Tampa Bay castoff. Because that really worked well the last time.

/Rosendouche.

Also, your avatar is that shit. BEARS RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo DOUBLE-YOU-BEE-BEE-EM!!!
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on June 22, 2010, 08:14:56 AM
Kugel is awesome.  I have no idea what you guys are talking about when you say you've had it made from taters.

I also can't believe you guys would actually think the Cubs would give thought to hiring Joe Madden.  Fools, the whole lot of you.  I know I'm in the minority here, too.  But I don't really care if Sandberg is the manager.  He's just the manager.  As long as he doesn't Dusty a lineup or our starting pitchers, how bad can it be?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: MAD on June 22, 2010, 08:20:26 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2010, 07:49:55 AM
Quote from: BBM on June 21, 2010, 10:20:54 PM
Ryne Sandberg? I'd rather see the Hawk as GM/Manager/Rightfielder/Overall Badass

Only the cubs would make a move this dumb in a year when Joe Madden is possibly on the market.

Oh, great another Tampa Bay castoff. Because that really worked well the last time.

/Rosendouche.

Also, your avatar is that shit. BEARS RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo DOUBLE-YOU-BEE-BEE-EM!!!

NEWS RADIOOOO SEVENTY EIGHT!
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:00:12 AM
I'm reading kugel recipes now. I should be working but I'm doing this instead.

Every single one is raisin this, cinnamon that - come on. That's disgusting. If I could make a kugel I wouldn't use anything sweet and I'd top it off with those fried onions in a can because that's what classy people do.

Someone get me my robe.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: BH on June 22, 2010, 09:01:43 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 22, 2010, 07:49:55 AM
Quote from: BBM on June 21, 2010, 10:20:54 PM
Ryne Sandberg? I'd rather see the Hawk as GM/Manager/Rightfielder/Overall Badass

Only the cubs would make a move this dumb in a year when Joe Madden is possibly on the market.

Oh, great another Tampa Bay castoff. Because that really worked well the last time.

/Rosendouche.

Also, your avatar is that shit. BEARS RADIOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooo DOUBLE-YOU-BEE-BEE-EM!!!

Joe Madden can either coach a talented team that develops good young talent. Or the cubs. That's a tough call.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
It's Joe Maddon you stupid dicks.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: CBStew on June 22, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
It's Joe Maddon you stupid dicks.

There is another room for us to discuss stupid dicks.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Richard Chuggar on June 22, 2010, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 22, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
It's Joe Maddon you stupid dicks.

There is another room for us to discuss stupid dicks.

Even if there wasn't, I bet you'd make a new thread about it
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:42:40 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 22, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
It's Joe Maddon you stupid dicks.

There is another room for us to discuss stupid dicks.

The Nixonland thread?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on June 22, 2010, 09:42:55 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 22, 2010, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 22, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
It's Joe Maddon you stupid dicks.

There is another room for us to discuss stupid dicks.

Even if there wasn't, I bet you'd make a new thread about it

And you'd pop by to once again assert your status as King Dick of Desipio.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Eli on June 22, 2010, 10:09:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 22, 2010, 09:42:55 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 22, 2010, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 22, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
It's Joe Maddon you stupid dicks.

There is another room for us to discuss stupid dicks.

Even if there wasn't, I bet you'd make a new thread about it

And you'd pop by to once again assert your status as King Dick of Desipio.

I think he's more of the appendix of Desipio.  Yeah, it's here and you're vaguely aware of it, but only if reminded.  The only time anyone notices it is when it ruptures (on Weebs in the video game thread).  Beyond that, though, it's basically useless and offers no redeeming value.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: MAD on June 22, 2010, 10:13:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 22, 2010, 10:09:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 22, 2010, 09:42:55 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on June 22, 2010, 09:28:21 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 22, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
It's Joe Maddon you stupid dicks.

There is another room for us to discuss stupid dicks.

Even if there wasn't, I bet you'd make a new thread about it

And you'd pop by to once again assert your status as King Dick of Desipio.

I think he's more of the appendix of Desipio.  Yeah, it's here and you're vaguely aware of it, but only if reminded.  The only time anyone notices it is when it ruptures (on Weebs in the video game thread).  Beyond that, though, it's basically useless and offers no redeeming value.

Thank you, Eli, for providing me with my new sig.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Gilgamesh on June 22, 2010, 10:34:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:42:40 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 22, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
It's Joe Maddon you stupid dicks.

There is another room for us to discuss stupid dicks.

The Nixonland thread?

You take that back!

Great man, Nixon was.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: PenPho on June 22, 2010, 10:51:31 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:00:12 AM
I'm reading kugel recipes now. I should be working but I'm doing this instead.

Every single one is raisin this, cinnamon that - come on. That's disgusting. If I could make a kugel I wouldn't use anything sweet and I'd top it off with those fried onions in a can because that's what classy people do.

Someone get me my robe.

Fucking sweet kugel.

Forget that stuff.

Noodles, eggs, sauteed onions, maybe some sauteed peppers too if you want to really bring down the house.
Add in lots of salt and pepper, though as a nod to IAN, I do love throwing in some Tony C's instead of salt.

Stir, fry, enjoy.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 22, 2010, 10:34:11 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:42:40 AM
Quote from: CBStew on June 22, 2010, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2010, 09:07:42 AM
It's Joe Maddon you stupid dicks.

There is another room for us to discuss stupid dicks.

The Nixonland thread?

You take that back!

Great man, Nixon was.

Success!
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 21, 2010, 06:05:44 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 21, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
Now that the season is over and Piniella has abdicated, the popular outcry is that Sandberg becomes the new field manager.  I wonder if that is the best that the Cubs can do?  Don't get me wrong.  For years I was a major fan of Sandberg, the player.  But it is going to take more than nostalgia to get me to accept that this guy who couldn't put together a coherent sentence of more that six words is the answer that we are looking for.  And don't offer Casey Stengel as the example of an idiot savant who could turn out consistent World Series winners.  My mother-in-law, may she rest in peace knew nothing about baseball, but she could have managed all of those Yankee teams to World Series victories, even if all she did was to stay in her kitchen and bake noodle kugels. 

I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

Unless you've only had that horrid sweet one with raisins, because that kind should be condemned to an eternity being ordered around by octogenarian Jewish women complaining that "it's too cold in here" even though the thermostat is set at 82.

Oh, and I vote Brenly.



Joe Girardi!

No wait, we shouldn't want Girardi because he couldn't get along with that fucktard owner in Florida.  Clearly the guy is unstable and can't work well with difficult personalities and will never win a World Series.

Right Chuck?

/never forget

Tangentially speaking of ex-Florida managers, did Fredi Gonzalez get fired solely because of the batting-out-of-order snafu the other day?  I don't follow the Marlins very closely, but he seems to get a pretty good performance out of that team.  I'm catching up from the last few days, so there might already be a thread on this.  But I thought of it now, so listen to me, dammit.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 24, 2010, 01:32:25 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 12:16:45 PM
Quote from: CT III on June 21, 2010, 06:05:44 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 21, 2010, 05:51:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 21, 2010, 05:48:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 21, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
Now that the season is over and Piniella has abdicated, the popular outcry is that Sandberg becomes the new field manager.  I wonder if that is the best that the Cubs can do?  Don't get me wrong.  For years I was a major fan of Sandberg, the player.  But it is going to take more than nostalgia to get me to accept that this guy who couldn't put together a coherent sentence of more that six words is the answer that we are looking for.  And don't offer Casey Stengel as the example of an idiot savant who could turn out consistent World Series winners.  My mother-in-law, may she rest in peace knew nothing about baseball, but she could have managed all of those Yankee teams to World Series victories, even if all she did was to stay in her kitchen and bake noodle kugels. 

I never liked kugel.

Well, then you're an asshole.

Unless you've only had that horrid sweet one with raisins, because that kind should be condemned to an eternity being ordered around by octogenarian Jewish women complaining that "it's too cold in here" even though the thermostat is set at 82.

Oh, and I vote Brenly.



Joe Girardi!

No wait, we shouldn't want Girardi because he couldn't get along with that fucktard owner in Florida.  Clearly the guy is unstable and can't work well with difficult personalities and will never win a World Series.

Right Chuck?

/never forget

Tangentially speaking of ex-Florida managers, did Fredi Gonzalez get fired solely because of the batting-out-of-order snafu the other day?  I don't follow the Marlins very closely, but he seems to get a pretty good performance out of that team.  I'm catching up from the last few days, so there might already be a thread on this.  But I thought of it now, so listen to me, dammit.

He also tried getting Hanley Ramirez to hustle. Bad idea.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 01:46:17 PM
From what I've seen of the man, I'd take Fredi Gonzalez next year.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's All managers are worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him. good players.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Eli on June 24, 2010, 01:58:11 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

And you'd somehow end up hating Adrian Gonzalez, too.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: BH on June 24, 2010, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's All managers are worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him. good players.

That's ignorant. Anyone can coach a team of good players to win. A great manager can take a team of shit and managing them to win.
That's what the cubs need.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's All managers are worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him. good players.

That's ignorant. Anyone can coach a team of good players to win. A great manager can take a team of shit and managing them to win.
That's what the cubs need.

I can't tell if you're being serious- but I am curious to see what teams of shit have made the playoffs in the last 120 years.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: morpheus on June 24, 2010, 02:17:31 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's All managers are worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him. good players.

That's ignorant. Anyone can coach a team of good players to win. A great manager can take a team of shit and managing them to win.
That's what the cubs need.

I can't tell if you're being serious- but I am curious to see what teams of shit have made the playoffs in the last 120 years.

If the World Series had actually happened in 2006, I would nominate the World Series winners from that year.  Good thing it was canceled due to lack of interest.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: BH on June 24, 2010, 02:21:15 PM
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2010, 02:17:31 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's All managers are worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him. good players.

That's ignorant. Anyone can coach a team of good players to win. A great manager can take a team of shit and managing them to win.
That's what the cubs need.

I can't tell if you're being serious- but I am curious to see what teams of shit have made the playoffs in the last 120 years.

If the World Series had actually happened in 2006, I would nominate the World Series winners from that year.  Good thing it was canceled due to lack of interest.

I was kidding. But how about the 2005 and 2006 Padres.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Brownie on June 24, 2010, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
Quote from: BH on June 24, 2010, 01:59:05 PM
Quote from: Ivy6 on June 24, 2010, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's All managers are worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him. good players.

That's ignorant. Anyone can coach a team of good players to win. A great manager can take a team of shit and managing them to win.
That's what the cubs need.

I can't tell if you're being serious- but I am curious to see what teams of shit have made the playoffs in the last 120 years.

Teams of shit that won the World Series? Here are a few:
1985 Royals
1987 Twins
1988 Dodgers
1990 Reds

So the Cubs need Dick Howser, Tom Kelly, Tommy Lasorda or the guy who managed the Reds. I wish they had one of those guys.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

I have no idea what hiring Fredi Gonzalez has to do with signing Adrian Gonzalez.  Are they father-son?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on June 24, 2010, 02:44:38 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

I have no idea what hiring Fredi Gonzalez has to do with signing Adrian Gonzalez.  Are they father-son?

I think it's because Adrian Gonzalez has a glove.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

How many Adrian Gonzalezesses do you think the Cubs can afford, Chuck?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on June 24, 2010, 03:05:44 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 24, 2010, 03:00:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

How many Adrian Gonzalezesses do you think the Cubs can afford, Chuck?

However many they can pick off of the Adrian Gonzalez tree.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 24, 2010, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

I have no idea what hiring Fredi Gonzalez has to do with signing Adrian Gonzalez.  Are they father-son?

Kinda like how not hiring Calipari means the Bulls JUST LOST LABRONN!
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: CT III on June 24, 2010, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 24, 2010, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

I have no idea what hiring Fredi Gonzalez has to do with signing Adrian Gonzalez.  Are they father-son?

Kinda like how not hiring Calipari means the Bulls JUST LOST LABRONN!

Dammit people, you're getting way off message.  The point here is that Chuck was wrong about Joe Girardi and anything else he says or suggests should simply be dismissed because he was wrong about that one thing that one time.

Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 25, 2010, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: CT III on June 24, 2010, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 24, 2010, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

I have no idea what hiring Fredi Gonzalez has to do with signing Adrian Gonzalez.  Are they father-son?

Kinda like how not hiring Calipari means the Bulls JUST LOST LABRONN!

Dammit people, you're getting way off message.  The point here is that Chuck was wrong about Joe Girardi and anything else he says or suggests should simply be dismissed because he was wrong about that one thing that one time.



It also means we can transfer all our past wrongnesses onto Chuck.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Fork on June 25, 2010, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: CT III on June 24, 2010, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 24, 2010, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

I have no idea what hiring Fredi Gonzalez has to do with signing Adrian Gonzalez.  Are they father-son?

Kinda like how not hiring Calipari means the Bulls JUST LOST LABRONN!

Dammit people, you're getting way off message.  The point here is that Chuck was wrong about Joe Girardi and anything else he says or suggests should simply be dismissed because he was wrong about that one thing that one time.



It also means we can transfer all our past wrongnesses onto Chuck.
The only way to salvation is through me.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/dlgdu0.png)
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on June 25, 2010, 10:09:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 09:49:40 AM
Quote from: Fork on June 25, 2010, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: CT III on June 24, 2010, 10:22:29 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 24, 2010, 03:11:24 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on June 24, 2010, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 24, 2010, 01:49:46 PM
You can have Fredi.  He's worthless without Adrian Gonzalez and a few other guys like him.

I have no idea what hiring Fredi Gonzalez has to do with signing Adrian Gonzalez.  Are they father-son?

Kinda like how not hiring Calipari means the Bulls JUST LOST LABRONN!

Dammit people, you're getting way off message.  The point here is that Chuck was wrong about Joe Girardi and anything else he says or suggests should simply be dismissed because he was wrong about that one thing that one time.



It also means we can transfer all our past wrongnesses onto Chuck.
The only way to salvation is through me.

(http://i47.tinypic.com/dlgdu0.png)

I found this funny. And I laughed audibly.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Canadouche on June 25, 2010, 10:12:20 AM
I think it's finally time to give Larry Rothschild another shot at managing. 
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: powen01 on June 25, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
I hate myself for saying this (and you will hate me too), but Tony LaRussa...  Thoughts?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: powen01 on June 25, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
I hate myself for saying this (and you will hate me too), but Tony LaRussa...  Thoughts?

I hate myself more than powen for saying this (and you will hate me more too), but the loser of the Ozzie Guillen-Kenny Williams power struggle. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: PenPho on June 25, 2010, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: powen01 on June 25, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
I hate myself for saying this (and you will hate me too), but Tony LaRussa...  Thoughts?

I hate myself more than powen for saying this (and you will hate me more too), but the loser of the Ozzie Guillen-Kenny Williams power struggle. Thoughts?

I now hate you both.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Saul Goodman on June 25, 2010, 12:07:25 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: powen01 on June 25, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
I hate myself for saying this (and you will hate me too), but Tony LaRussa...  Thoughts?

I hate myself more than powen for saying this (and you will hate me more too), but the loser of the Ozzie Guillen-Kenny Williams power struggle. Thoughts?

If the choice is La Russa or Guillen, a million times La Russa.  I do not hate you.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 01:03:40 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 25, 2010, 12:07:25 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: powen01 on June 25, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
I hate myself for saying this (and you will hate me too), but Tony LaRussa...  Thoughts?

I hate myself more than powen for saying this (and you will hate me more too), but the loser of the Ozzie Guillen-Kenny Williams power struggle. Thoughts?

If the choice is La Russa or Guillen, a million times La Russa.  I do not hate you.

If you want LaRussa, you need to be sure Balco is still in business.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 01:03:40 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 25, 2010, 12:07:25 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: powen01 on June 25, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
I hate myself for saying this (and you will hate me too), but Tony LaRussa...  Thoughts?

I hate myself more than powen for saying this (and you will hate me more too), but the loser of the Ozzie Guillen-Kenny Williams power struggle. Thoughts?

If the choice is La Russa or Guillen, a million times La Russa.  I do not hate you.

If you want LaRussa, you need to be sure Balco is still in business.

Is BALCO still in business? Their two top client-managers are currently several games ahead of the Cubs in the NL Central.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 25, 2010, 01:33:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 25, 2010, 01:03:40 PM
Quote from: Night Man on June 25, 2010, 12:07:25 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 11:32:35 AM
Quote from: powen01 on June 25, 2010, 11:23:24 AM
I hate myself for saying this (and you will hate me too), but Tony LaRussa...  Thoughts?

I hate myself more than powen for saying this (and you will hate me more too), but the loser of the Ozzie Guillen-Kenny Williams power struggle. Thoughts?

If the choice is La Russa or Guillen, a million times La Russa.  I do not hate you.

If you want LaRussa, you need to be sure Balco is still in business.

Is BALCO still in business? Their two top client-managers are currently several games ahead of the Cubs in the NL Central.

Intrepid Reader: Joe Torre

I don't even make the top two any more?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 01:42:37 PM
To get back on point, what kind of manager is Ryne Sandberg? He was my favorite player as a kid, and I have nothing personally against him. But what kind of manager is he? Andy kind of touched on it last year. We know he gets kicked out of a lot of games. We know he sells tickets. We know he talks a good game about "fundamentals" and "playing the right way." (Does any manager advocate sloppy play and doing things the "wrong way?")

But how does he handle his bench? Pitchers and bullpen? Do players enjoy playing for him? Now that he's in Iowa, he gets to manage a few veterans (think: BOBBY SCALES, SAM FULD, Mark Johnson, Jeff Gray, Jason Dubois, Hoffpauir). What do they think of him?

If Sandberg's so great, why hasn't he set Jeff Samardzija on fire yet?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 25, 2010, 02:00:50 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 01:42:37 PM
To get back on point, what kind of manager is Ryne Sandberg? He was my favorite player as a kid, and I have nothing personally against him. But what kind of manager is he? Andy kind of touched on it last year. We know he gets kicked out of a lot of games. We know he sells tickets. We know he talks a good game about "fundamentals" and "playing the right way." (Does any manager advocate sloppy play and doing things the "wrong way?")

But how does he handle his bench? Pitchers and bullpen? Do players enjoy playing for him? Now that he's in Iowa, he gets to manage a few veterans (think: BOBBY SCALES, SAM FULD, Mark Johnson, Jeff Gray, Jason Dubois, Hoffpauir). What do they think of him?

If Sandberg's so great, why hasn't he set Jeff Samardzija on fire yet?

Fucker keeps running through the sprinklers.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Canadouche on June 25, 2010, 02:19:23 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 01:42:37 PM
To get back on point, what kind of manager is Ryne Sandberg? He was my favorite player as a kid, and I have nothing personally against him. But what kind of manager is he? Andy kind of touched on it last year. We know he gets kicked out of a lot of games. We know he sells tickets. We know he talks a good game about "fundamentals" and "playing the right way." (Does any manager advocate sloppy play and doing things the "wrong way?")

But how does he handle his bench? Pitchers and bullpen? Do players enjoy playing for him? Now that he's in Iowa, he gets to manage a few veterans (think: BOBBY SCALES, SAM FULD, Mark Johnson, Jeff Gray, Jason Dubois, Hoffpauir). What do they think of him?

If Sandberg's so great, why hasn't he set Jeff Samardzija on fire yet?

If his autobiography is any indication of his managerial style, then he'll be all too much akin to Dusty Baker.  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he expressed a lot of shock and disappointment when the Trib let go Sutcliffe and Dawson, despite the fact that both were on the tail end of their careers (and indicative of a "my guys" mentality) among other concerning things.  Then again, I read his book during the worst of the Baker years, and maybe I was a little too sensitive to what I perceived to be DustySpeak. 
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: CT III on June 25, 2010, 02:52:09 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on June 25, 2010, 02:19:23 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 01:42:37 PM
To get back on point, what kind of manager is Ryne Sandberg? He was my favorite player as a kid, and I have nothing personally against him. But what kind of manager is he? Andy kind of touched on it last year. We know he gets kicked out of a lot of games. We know he sells tickets. We know he talks a good game about "fundamentals" and "playing the right way." (Does any manager advocate sloppy play and doing things the "wrong way?")

But how does he handle his bench? Pitchers and bullpen? Do players enjoy playing for him? Now that he's in Iowa, he gets to manage a few veterans (think: BOBBY SCALES, SAM FULD, Mark Johnson, Jeff Gray, Jason Dubois, Hoffpauir). What do they think of him?

If Sandberg's so great, why hasn't he set Jeff Samardzija on fire yet?

If his autobiography is any indication of his managerial style, then he'll be all too much akin to Dusty Baker.  Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure he expressed a lot of shock and disappointment when the Trib let go Sutcliffe and Dawson, despite the fact that both were on the tail end of their careers (and indicative of a "my guys" mentality) among other concerning things.  Then again, I read his book during the worst of the Baker years, and maybe I was a little too sensitive to what I perceived to be DustySpeak. 

If I recall, he was also shocked that Doug Dascenzo wasn't made the starting centerfielder.

Of course, Barry Rozner collaborated on it, so who knows how much of it was actually Sandberg's thoughts.  The part where he says that Trent Yawney deserved Norris consideration in 1991 makes me suspicious.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on June 25, 2010, 03:15:50 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 25, 2010, 01:42:37 PM
To get back on point, what kind of manager is Ryne Sandberg? He was my favorite player as a kid, and I have nothing personally against him. But what kind of manager is he? Andy kind of touched on it last year. We know he gets kicked out of a lot of games. We know he sells tickets. We know he talks a good game about "fundamentals" and "playing the right way." (Does any manager advocate sloppy play and doing things the "wrong way?")

But how does he handle his bench? Pitchers and bullpen? Do players enjoy playing for him? Now that he's in Iowa, he gets to manage a few veterans (think: BOBBY SCALES, SAM FULD, Mark Johnson, Jeff Gray, Jason Dubois, Hoffpauir). What do they think of him?

If Sandberg's so great, why hasn't he set Jeff Samardzija on fire yet?

He keeps sending to Chicago so that the Cubs set him on fire and Sandberg won't have to deal with him in 2011.  Duh.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 07, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.

Damn it, Brownie.  Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg is coming home to RESCUE THIS TEAM.  I bet the first thing he does is insist on reacquiring Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood.  What do you have against HOPE?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Poon on July 07, 2010, 03:02:26 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.

Damn it, Brownie.  Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg is coming home to RESCUE THIS TEAM.  I bet the first thing he does is insist on reacquiring Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood.  What do you have against HOPE?

I hope he starts a mandatory stirrups policy.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Armchair_QB on July 07, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.

Damn it, Brownie.  Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg is coming home to RESCUE THIS TEAM.  I bet the first thing he does is insist on reacquiring Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood.  What do you have against HOPE?

He's going to hire Mark Grace as his hitting coach too.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: BBM on July 08, 2010, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 07, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.

Damn it, Brownie.  Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg is coming home to RESCUE THIS TEAM.  I bet the first thing he does is insist on reacquiring Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood.  What do you have against HOPE?

He's going to hire Mark Grace as his hitting coach too.

Well, at least I know I will have my summer's off for the forseeable future
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: MAD on July 08, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 08, 2010, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 07, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.

Damn it, Brownie.  Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg is coming home to RESCUE THIS TEAM.  I bet the first thing he does is insist on reacquiring Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood.  What do you have against HOPE?

He's going to hire Mark Grace as his hitting coach too.

Well, at least I know I will have my summer's off for the forseeable future

Why?  Do you operate a taxi service for drunk fat chicks?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bort on July 08, 2010, 01:19:36 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 08, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 08, 2010, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 07, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.

Damn it, Brownie.  Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg is coming home to RESCUE THIS TEAM.  I bet the first thing he does is insist on reacquiring Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood.  What do you have against HOPE?

He's going to hire Mark Grace as his hitting coach too.

Well, at least I know I will have my summer's off for the forseeable future

Why?  Do you operate a taxi service for drunk fat chicks?

Intrepid Reader J. Walter Weatherman: Hi.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Oleg on July 08, 2010, 01:19:47 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 08, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 08, 2010, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 07, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.

Damn it, Brownie.  Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg is coming home to RESCUE THIS TEAM.  I bet the first thing he does is insist on reacquiring Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood.  What do you have against HOPE?

He's going to hire Mark Grace as his hitting coach too.

Well, at least I know I will have my summer's off for the forseeable future

Why?  Do you operate a taxi service for drunk fat chicks?

For some reason I picture BBM (who, I'm sure, looks like the hot dog dude from The Simpsons) waiting outside of Grace's house all day.

"Lady, he's put my kids through college".

(http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/round-springfield1.png?w=512&h=384)
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: BBM on July 09, 2010, 12:36:25 AM
Quote from: Oleg on July 08, 2010, 01:19:47 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 08, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 08, 2010, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 07, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.

Damn it, Brownie.  Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg is coming home to RESCUE THIS TEAM.  I bet the first thing he does is insist on reacquiring Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood.  What do you have against HOPE?

He's going to hire Mark Grace as his hitting coach too.

Well, at least I know I will have my summer's off for the forseeable future

Why?  Do you operate a taxi service for drunk fat chicks?

For some reason I picture BBM (who, I'm sure, looks like the hot dog dude from The Simpsons) waiting outside of Grace's house all day.

"Lady, he's put my kids through college".

(http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/round-springfield1.png?w=512&h=384)

I wish I looked like that and I should've made myself clear.  If the Cubs hire Sandberg and Grace.  I won't watch the cubs for the forseeable future because they will be assrapingly brutal.

Now, if they hired the Hawk as manager that would be the balls even if they stunk like hot rat ass. 
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 09, 2010, 01:30:00 AM
Quote from: BBM on July 09, 2010, 12:36:25 AM
Quote from: Oleg on July 08, 2010, 01:19:47 PM
Quote from: MAD on July 08, 2010, 01:13:46 PM
Quote from: BBM on July 08, 2010, 01:12:04 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on July 07, 2010, 03:44:11 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 02:53:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 07, 2010, 12:45:22 PM
Quote from: Night Man on July 07, 2010, 12:41:37 PM
Get ready for the Sandberg era!

QuotePiniella told Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune that he will finish managing this season, but won't take another managerial job afterwards. "I know that this will be my last managing job," Piniella said. "I do know that for a fact."

I don't think he ruled out an extension; he just won't start over elsewhere.

Damn it, Brownie.  Cubs legend Ryne Sandberg is coming home to RESCUE THIS TEAM.  I bet the first thing he does is insist on reacquiring Mark DeRosa and Kerry Wood.  What do you have against HOPE?

He's going to hire Mark Grace as his hitting coach too.

Well, at least I know I will have my summer's off for the forseeable future

Why?  Do you operate a taxi service for drunk fat chicks?

For some reason I picture BBM (who, I'm sure, looks like the hot dog dude from The Simpsons) waiting outside of Grace's house all day.

"Lady, he's put my kids through college".

(http://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/round-springfield1.png?w=512&h=384)

I wish I looked like that and I should've made myself clear.  If the Cubs hire Sandberg and Grace.  I won't watch the cubs for the forseeable future because they will be assrapingly brutal.

Now, if they hired the Hawk as manager that would be the balls even if they stunk like hot rat ass. 

Hawk for manager.

Hawk for general manager?

(http://ihatethewhitesox.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/harrelson.jpg)
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on July 09, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Man, I really want to punch that picture in the face.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bort on July 09, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 09, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Man, I really want to punch that picture in the face.
I have no idea what IAN wrote, because I just punched in my monitor.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on July 09, 2010, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 09, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 09, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Man, I really want to punch that picture in the face.
I have no idea what IAN wrote, because I just punched in my monitor.

How did you find the "Post" button?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bort on July 09, 2010, 12:14:01 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 09, 2010, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 09, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 09, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Man, I really want to punch that picture in the face.
I have no idea what IAN wrote, because I just punched in my monitor.

How did you find the "Post" button?
Luck.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on July 09, 2010, 12:21:34 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 09, 2010, 12:14:01 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 09, 2010, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 09, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 09, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Man, I really want to punch that picture in the face.
I have no idea what IAN wrote, because I just punched in my monitor.

How did you find the "Post" button?
Luck.

Two times in a row? You're a lucky dude. No wonder someone married you.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bort on July 09, 2010, 12:24:02 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 09, 2010, 12:21:34 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 09, 2010, 12:14:01 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 09, 2010, 12:11:35 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 09, 2010, 09:02:45 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 09, 2010, 08:18:32 AM
Man, I really want to punch that picture in the face.
I have no idea what IAN wrote, because I just punched in my monitor.

How did you find the "Post" button?
Luck.

Two times in a row? You're a lucky dude. No wonder someone married you.
Hells yeah.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: CBStew on July 22, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
Can anybody tell me if Sandberg knows how to manage a baseball team?  What has he done at Iowa?  What has Iowa done since Sandberg?  I don't care if the players like him.  The players liked Dusty.  I don't care if he gets thrown out of games.  A drunken fan who runs out on the field naked is going to get thrown out of the game too.  I don't care if if he chatty as all hell.  The guy next to me at the last game that I went to was chatty and I wanted him to be thrown out (and to stay off of my lawn).  I only want to know if he can manage a team any better than my deceased mother in law can.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Eli on July 22, 2010, 12:59:34 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 22, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
I only want to know if he can manage a team any better than my deceased mother in law can.

Since your mother in law is dead, she is presumably unable to call for first-inning sacrifice bunts.  Therefore, she'd be a better manager than Sandberg.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on July 22, 2010, 01:00:21 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 22, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
Can anybody tell me if Sandberg knows how to manage a baseball team?  What has he done at Iowa?  What has Iowa done since Sandberg?  I don't care if the players like him.  The players liked Dusty.  I don't care if he gets thrown out of games.  A drunken fan who runs out on the field naked is going to get thrown out of the game too.  I don't care if if he chatty as all hell.  The guy next to me at the last game that I went to was chatty and I wanted him to be thrown out (and to stay off of my lawn).  I only want to know if he can manage a team any better than my deceased mother in law can.

Sight-unseen, the consensus opinion of everyone on this messageboard is "probably not." Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Brownie on July 22, 2010, 01:00:34 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 22, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
Can anybody tell me if Sandberg knows how to manage a baseball team?  What has he done at Iowa?  What has Iowa done since Sandberg?  I don't care if the players like him.  The players liked Dusty.  I don't care if he gets thrown out of games.  A drunken fan who runs out on the field naked is going to get thrown out of the game too.  I don't care if if he chatty as all hell.  The guy next to me at the last game that I went to was chatty and I wanted him to be thrown out (and to stay off of my lawn).  I only want to know if he can manage a team any better than my deceased mother in law can.

They're 1.5 games out of first in the PCL. Good?

Seriously, you have a point. We haven't heard anything about how he manages in game.

And why is Iowa in the PCL? Shouldn't that be reserved for the SF Seals and the Oakland Oaks and the Hollywood Stars?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 22, 2010, 01:01:26 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 22, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
Can anybody tell me if Sandberg knows how to manage a baseball team?  What has he done at Iowa?  What has Iowa done since Sandberg?  I don't care if the players like him.  The players liked Dusty.  I don't care if he gets thrown out of games.  A drunken fan who runs out on the field naked is going to get thrown out of the game too.  I don't care if if he chatty as all hell.  The guy next to me at the last game that I went to was chatty and I wanted him to be thrown out (and to stay off of my lawn).  I only want to know if he can manage a team any better than my deceased mother in law can.

I looked at some of Iowa's stats and I didn't see anything alarming, like too many times caught stealing versus successful steals.  A lot of Iowa's players are AAA or AAAA types, and he's managed them to a winning record.  But as far as bone-headed strategy decisions or bullpen management, I have no idea.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 22, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
Can anybody tell me if Sandberg knows how to manage a baseball team?  What has he done at Iowa?  What has Iowa done since Sandberg?  I don't care if the players like him.  The players liked Dusty.  I don't care if he gets thrown out of games.  A drunken fan who runs out on the field naked is going to get thrown out of the game too.  I don't care if if he chatty as all hell.  The guy next to me at the last game that I went to was chatty and I wanted him to be thrown out (and to stay off of my lawn).  I only want to know if he can manage a team any better than my deceased mother in law can.

I have heard he buys into that old-timey, "Let's bunt!" shit. That's a strike against him in my book.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:08:04 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 22, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
Can anybody tell me if Sandberg knows how to manage a baseball team?  What has he done at Iowa?  What has Iowa done since Sandberg?  I don't care if the players like him.  The players liked Dusty.  I don't care if he gets thrown out of games.  A drunken fan who runs out on the field naked is going to get thrown out of the game too.  I don't care if if he chatty as all hell.  The guy next to me at the last game that I went to was chatty and I wanted him to be thrown out (and to stay off of my lawn).  I only want to know if he can manage a team any better than my deceased mother in law can.

I have heard he buys into that old-timey, "Let's bunt!" shit. That's a strike against him in my book.

I wonder how Sandberg's career would have gone if he'd have bunted every time Dernier led off by getting on base.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: CT III on July 22, 2010, 01:22:08 PM
I think Sandberg will be like most managers, give him good enough players and he's probably not going to fuck them up.  Give him shit players, and no amount of "managing" is going to win anything.  Hendry's the problem here, I'm not real concerned about who manages the team at this point.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Brownie on July 22, 2010, 01:26:22 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 22, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
Can anybody tell me if Sandberg knows how to manage a baseball team?  What has he done at Iowa?  What has Iowa done since Sandberg?  I don't care if the players like him.  The players liked Dusty.  I don't care if he gets thrown out of games.  A drunken fan who runs out on the field naked is going to get thrown out of the game too.  I don't care if if he chatty as all hell.  The guy next to me at the last game that I went to was chatty and I wanted him to be thrown out (and to stay off of my lawn).  I only want to know if he can manage a team any better than my deceased mother in law can.

I have heard he buys into that old-timey, "Let's bunt!" shit. That's a strike against him in my book.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt in that it is kind of nice to know your players can do things like lay down a bunt when it's necessary. Now, if he's doing the first-inning sac bunt or the bunt the guy from 2nd to third, that's dumb, but wouldn't it be nice to know that if you need a run and have a guy on third, the hitter can execute a squeeze?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bort on July 22, 2010, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on July 22, 2010, 01:22:08 PM
I think Sandberg will be like most managers, give him good enough players and he's probably not going to fuck them up.  Give him shit players, and no amount of "managing" is going to win anything.  Hendry's the problem here, I'm not real concerned about who manages the team at this point.

Yeah. If at that presser, they annouced Sandberg was manager, but Hendry was leaving, I'd be overjoyed.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 01:06:55 PM
Quote from: CBStew on July 22, 2010, 12:56:45 PM
Can anybody tell me if Sandberg knows how to manage a baseball team?  What has he done at Iowa?  What has Iowa done since Sandberg?  I don't care if the players like him.  The players liked Dusty.  I don't care if he gets thrown out of games.  A drunken fan who runs out on the field naked is going to get thrown out of the game too.  I don't care if if he chatty as all hell.  The guy next to me at the last game that I went to was chatty and I wanted him to be thrown out (and to stay off of my lawn).  I only want to know if he can manage a team any better than my deceased mother in law can.

I have heard he buys into that old-timey, "Let's bunt!" shit. That's a strike against him in my book.

I know there's virtually nothing else to judge him on, but is Sandberg's minor leage managing necessarily indicative of how he will manage in the big leagues? For example, presumably there would be more of an emphasis in the minors on bunting, stealing, etc., and other ways of "playing the game the right way" that most sabremetricians hate.  But maybe it's necessary to do these things more often in the minors to teach the lil tykes how to execute successfully what the manager wants done (damn the consequences to the teams's chances to win the game).  

Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:34:08 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Do we even know for certain he is doing this or is it simply a Brietbartism?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
I know there's virtually nothing else to judge him on, but is Sandberg's minor leage managing necessarily indicative of how he will manage in the big leagues? For example, presumably there would be more of an emphasis in the minors on bunting, stealing, etc., and other ways of "playing the game the right way" that most sabremetricians hate.  But maybe it's necessary to do these things more often in the minors to teach the lil tykes how to execute successfully what the manager wants done (damn the consequences to the teams's chances to win the game).  

Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

I guess I look at it the opposite way.  The primary focus of the minor leagues is to get young players as many at-bats as possible so they get better.  Any any time a player bunts, that's a wasted at-bat in terms of the player's development.  I suppose it's useful to have guys bunt in game situations, but bunting is far easier than hitting.  Save it for practice.

But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.  His Hall of Fame speech indicates that pretty clearly:

QuoteThese guys sitting up here did not pave the way for the rest of us so that players could swing for the fences every time up and forget how to move a runner over to third, it's disrespectful to them, to you, and to the game of baseball that we all played growing up. Respect.

A lot of people say this honor validates my career, but I didn't work hard for validation. I didn't play the game right because I saw a reward at the end of the tunnel. I played it right because that's what you're supposed to do, play it right and with respect.

If this validates anything, it's that learning how to bunt and hit and run and turning two is more important than knowing where to find the little red light at the dug out camera.

And just for posterity's sake, Sandberg had 31 sacrifice bunts in 9,282 career plate appearances.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Canadouche on July 22, 2010, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
And just for posterity's sake, Sandberg had 31 sacrifice bunts in 9,282 career plate appearances.

Correlating precisely with the number of times that Chicago lead off men got on base in the 1st inning of those games.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 01:46:45 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
I know there's virtually nothing else to judge him on, but is Sandberg's minor leage managing necessarily indicative of how he will manage in the big leagues? For example, presumably there would be more of an emphasis in the minors on bunting, stealing, etc., and other ways of "playing the game the right way" that most sabremetricians hate.  But maybe it's necessary to do these things more often in the minors to teach the lil tykes how to execute successfully what the manager wants done (damn the consequences to the teams's chances to win the game).  

Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

I guess I look at it the opposite way.  The primary focus of the minor leagues is to get young players as many at-bats as possible so they get better.  Any any time a player bunts, that's a wasted at-bat in terms of the player's development.  I suppose it's useful to have guys bunt in game situations, but bunting is far easier than hitting.  Save it for practice.


I was about to respond, but I saw... THI
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.

Add in Yeti's "I have heard..."

From where have we heard?  What indications?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: BH on July 22, 2010, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.

Add in Yeti's "I have heard..."

From where have we heard?  What indications?

Chuck's right for once. Until I head it from Weebs, I'm ignoring this.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Richard Chuggar on July 22, 2010, 01:51:55 PM
Quote from: BH on July 22, 2010, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.

Add in Yeti's "I have heard..."

From where have we heard?  What indications?

Chuck's right for once. Until I head it from Weebs, I'm ignoring this.

fag
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bort on July 22, 2010, 01:54:50 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 22, 2010, 01:51:55 PM
Quote from: BH on July 22, 2010, 01:48:19 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.

Add in Yeti's "I have heard..."

From where have we heard?  What indications?

Chuck's right for once. Until I head it from Weebs, I'm ignoring this.

fag

I'm pretty sure it's up on Rotoworld somewhere.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on July 22, 2010, 01:57:09 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
I know there's virtually nothing else to judge him on, but is Sandberg's minor leage managing necessarily indicative of how he will manage in the big leagues? For example, presumably there would be more of an emphasis in the minors on bunting, stealing, etc., and other ways of "playing the game the right way" that most sabremetricians hate.  But maybe it's necessary to do these things more often in the minors to teach the lil tykes how to execute successfully what the manager wants done (damn the consequences to the teams's chances to win the game).  

Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

I guess I look at it the opposite way.  The primary focus of the minor leagues is to get young players as many at-bats as possible so they get better.  Any any time a player bunts, that's a wasted at-bat in terms of the player's development.  I suppose it's useful to have guys bunt in game situations, but bunting is far easier than hitting.  Save it for practice.

But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.  His Hall of Fame speech indicates that pretty clearly:

QuoteThese guys sitting up here did not pave the way for the rest of us so that players could swing for the fences every time up and forget how to move a runner over to third, it's disrespectful to them, to you, and to the game of baseball that we all played growing up. Respect.

A lot of people say this honor validates my career, but I didn't work hard for validation. I didn't play the game right because I saw a reward at the end of the tunnel. I played it right because that's what you're supposed to do, play it right and with respect.

If this validates anything, it's that learning how to bunt and hit and run and turning two is more important than knowing where to find the little red light at the dug out camera.

And just for posterity's sake, Sandberg had 31 sacrifice bunts in 9,282 career plate appearances.

Save it for practice? Would that not be a waste of pitches from whoever is firing real-life stuff at the would-be bunter? Or should they just bunt off the pitching machine throwing straight stuff at them while the fielders do something? I think you have to bunt in games in order to learn how. Some guys really shouldn't be bunting at all in games though. Like big dudes with serious power and hairy anuses.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:01:26 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.

Add in Yeti's "I have heard..."

From where have we heard?  What indications?

In 2007, the Peoria Chiefs were 3rd in the Midwest League in sacrifice bunts.
In 2008, they were 2nd.
In 2009, the Tennessee Smokies were 2nd in the Southern League.
In 2010, the Iowa Cubs are 8th in the Pacific Coast League. They have 40, and are on pace for 60, in 144 games.

And I heard it from some guy on the Score who said he was following Sandberg's progress over there. That's all I had to go off of. A little research gave me those numbers.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on July 22, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:01:26 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.

Add in Yeti's "I have heard..."

From where have we heard?  What indications?

In 2007, the Peoria Chiefs were 3rd in the Midwest League in sacrifice bunts.
In 2008, they were 2nd.
In 2009, the Tennessee Smokies were 2nd in the Southern League.
In 2010, the Iowa Cubs are 8th in the Pacific Coast League. They have 40, and are on pace for 60, in 144 games.

And I heard it from some guy on the Score who said he was following Sandberg's progress over there. That's all I had to go off of. A little research gave me those numbers.

So right now the Iowa Cubs are 8th out of 16 teams.  That doesn't sound like a significant number, or one I should be concerned about.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: R-V on July 22, 2010, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
I know there's virtually nothing else to judge him on, but is Sandberg's minor leage managing necessarily indicative of how he will manage in the big leagues? For example, presumably there would be more of an emphasis in the minors on bunting, stealing, etc., and other ways of "playing the game the right way" that most sabremetricians hate.  But maybe it's necessary to do these things more often in the minors to teach the lil tykes how to execute successfully what the manager wants done (damn the consequences to the teams's chances to win the game).  

Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

I guess I look at it the opposite way.  The primary focus of the minor leagues is to get young players as many at-bats as possible so they get better.  Any any time a player bunts, that's a wasted at-bat in terms of the player's development.  I suppose it's useful to have guys bunt in game situations, but bunting is far easier than hitting.  Save it for practice.

But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.  His Hall of Fame speech indicates that pretty clearly:

QuoteThese guys sitting up here did not pave the way for the rest of us so that players could swing for the fences every time up and forget how to move a runner over to third, it's disrespectful to them, to you, and to the game of baseball that we all played growing up. Respect.

A lot of people say this honor validates my career, but I didn't work hard for validation. I didn't play the game right because I saw a reward at the end of the tunnel. I played it right because that's what you're supposed to do, play it right and with respect.

If this validates anything, it's that learning how to bunt and hit and run and turning two is more important than knowing where to find the little red light at the dug out camera.

And just for posterity's sake, Sandberg had 31 sacrifice bunts in 9,282 career plate appearances.

Didn't Rozner supposedly write Sandberg's entire HOF speech? Or am I misremembering?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on July 22, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:01:26 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.

Add in Yeti's "I have heard..."

From where have we heard?  What indications?

In 2007, the Peoria Chiefs were 3rd in the Midwest League in sacrifice bunts.
In 2008, they were 2nd.
In 2009, the Tennessee Smokies were 2nd in the Southern League.
In 2010, the Iowa Cubs are 8th in the Pacific Coast League. They have 40, and are on pace for 60, in 144 games.

And I heard it from some guy on the Score who said he was following Sandberg's progress over there. That's all I had to go off of. A little research gave me those numbers.

So right now the Iowa Cubs are 8th out of 16 teams.  That doesn't sound like a significant number, or one I should be concerned about.

Do we know what inning they were made?  Do we know by what position in the batting order?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:30:57 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
Do we know what inning they were made?  Do we know by what position in the batting order?

Every single one was made by the cleanup hitter in the first inning, with a man at first and one out.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Richard Chuggar on July 22, 2010, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:30:57 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
Do we know what inning they were made?  Do we know by what position in the batting order?

Every single one was made by the cleanup hitter in the first inning, with a man at first and one out.

When was the last time you were in a fist fight?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on July 22, 2010, 02:37:46 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on July 22, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:01:26 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.

Add in Yeti's "I have heard..."

From where have we heard?  What indications?

In 2007, the Peoria Chiefs were 3rd in the Midwest League in sacrifice bunts.
In 2008, they were 2nd.
In 2009, the Tennessee Smokies were 2nd in the Southern League.
In 2010, the Iowa Cubs are 8th in the Pacific Coast League. They have 40, and are on pace for 60, in 144 games.

And I heard it from some guy on the Score who said he was following Sandberg's progress over there. That's all I had to go off of. A little research gave me those numbers.

So right now the Iowa Cubs are 8th out of 16 teams.  That doesn't sound like a significant number, or one I should be concerned about.

Except maybe for the other three seasons.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Canadouche on July 22, 2010, 02:39:16 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on July 22, 2010, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:30:57 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
Do we know what inning they were made?  Do we know by what position in the batting order?

Every single one was made by the cleanup hitter in the first inning, with a man at first and one out.

When was the last time you were in a fist fight?

Tsk tsk, Eli isn't trying to prove his manhood.  Besides, Todd, it's not like I asked you if you'd won. 
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on July 22, 2010, 02:25:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:01:26 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 01:46:58 PM
Quote from: motown on July 22, 2010, 01:28:37 PM
Please, God, let that be why Sandberg bunts in the first inning.

Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 01:38:38 PM
But all indications are that Sandberg thinks that bunting is some sort of way to honor and respect the Game of Baseball.

Add in Yeti's "I have heard..."

From where have we heard?  What indications?

In 2007, the Peoria Chiefs were 3rd in the Midwest League in sacrifice bunts.
In 2008, they were 2nd.
In 2009, the Tennessee Smokies were 2nd in the Southern League.
In 2010, the Iowa Cubs are 8th in the Pacific Coast League. They have 40, and are on pace for 60, in 144 games.

And I heard it from some guy on the Score who said he was following Sandberg's progress over there. That's all I had to go off of. A little research gave me those numbers.

So right now the Iowa Cubs are 8th out of 16 teams.  That doesn't sound like a significant number, or one I should be concerned about.

Do we know what inning they were made?  Do we know by what position in the batting order?

I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.

You told us SOME of what we wanted.

The evidence is circumstantial at best.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.

You told us SOME of what we wanted.

The evidence is circumstantial at best.

This coming from the guy who hates the guy who's been worth his contract the 4 years he's been here (http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=847&position=2B/OF#value)
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.

You told us SOME of what we wanted.

The evidence is circumstantial at best.

Unfortunately, minor-league-baseball-sacrifice-bunts-by-inning is a stat that isn't kept.  So you can't fault anyone for not bringing you those stats.  It'd be like asking someone to bring you Matt Murton on a unicorn.  It's impossible.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on July 22, 2010, 03:00:00 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.

You told us SOME of what we wanted.

The evidence is circumstantial at best.

Unfortunately, minor-league-baseball-sacrifice-bunts-by-inning is a stat that isn't kept.  So you can't fault anyone for not bringing you those stats.  It'd be like asking someone to bring you Matt Murton on a unicorn.  It's impossible.

Thank Christ.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: R-V on July 22, 2010, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.

You told us SOME of what we wanted.

The evidence is circumstantial at best.

Unfortunately, minor-league-baseball-sacrifice-bunts-by-inning is a stat that isn't kept.  So you can't fault anyone for not bringing you those stats.  It'd be like asking someone to bring you Matt Murton on a unicorn.  It's impossible.

I like when InternetChuck sends people scurrying off to look up information that only he cares about.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: SKO on July 22, 2010, 03:13:09 PM
Quote from: R-V on July 22, 2010, 03:08:26 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.

You told us SOME of what we wanted.

The evidence is circumstantial at best.

Unfortunately, minor-league-baseball-sacrifice-bunts-by-inning is a stat that isn't kept.  So you can't fault anyone for not bringing you those stats.  It'd be like asking someone to bring you Matt Murton on a unicorn.  It's impossible.

I like when InternetChuck sends people scurrying off to look up information that only he cares about.

That he'll just dismiss if it doesn't prove his point?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bort on July 22, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.

You told us SOME of what we wanted.

The evidence is circumstantial at best.

Unfortunately, minor-league-baseball-sacrifice-bunts-by-inning is a stat that isn't kept.  So you can't fault anyone for not bringing you those stats.  It'd be like asking someone to bring you Matt Murton on a unicorn.  It's impossible.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/223020/murtonunicorncopy.jpg)

I suppose Internet Eli will take Bill James' dick out of his mouth long enough to say this doesn't count.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Eli on July 22, 2010, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 22, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.

You told us SOME of what we wanted.

The evidence is circumstantial at best.

Unfortunately, minor-league-baseball-sacrifice-bunts-by-inning is a stat that isn't kept.  So you can't fault anyone for not bringing you those stats.  It'd be like asking someone to bring you Matt Murton on a unicorn.  It's impossible.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/223020/murtonunicorncopy.jpg)

I suppose Internet Eli will take Bill James' dick out of his mouth long enough to say this doesn't count.

What inning was he riding that unicorn?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bort on July 22, 2010, 03:38:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 03:25:47 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 22, 2010, 03:16:41 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 22, 2010, 02:55:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2010, 02:48:18 PM
Quote from: Yeti on July 22, 2010, 02:41:10 PM
I told you what you wanted. And now you want more? Jesus, Chuck, take Sandberg's dick out of your mouth.

You told us SOME of what we wanted.

The evidence is circumstantial at best.

Unfortunately, minor-league-baseball-sacrifice-bunts-by-inning is a stat that isn't kept.  So you can't fault anyone for not bringing you those stats.  It'd be like asking someone to bring you Matt Murton on a unicorn.  It's impossible.

(http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/223020/murtonunicorncopy.jpg)

I suppose Internet Eli will take Bill James' dick out of his mouth long enough to say this doesn't count.

What inning was he riding that unicorn?

2nd. One out.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on August 10, 2010, 05:17:06 PM
I'm pretty "meh" on the prospect of Sandberg as the manager as I think the manager doesn't factor in the team's win-loss as much as sone people do. Here's a nice statfaggy outlook on managers: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/wakamatsu-and-others-fired/

I especially like the part about salaries.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Eli on August 10, 2010, 06:21:40 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 10, 2010, 05:17:06 PM
Here's a nice statfaggy outlook on managers: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/wakamatsu-and-others-fired/

I especially like the part about salaries.

So, in summary:

1. Sometimes managers get fired
2. It's tough to tell if they deserve it or not
3. Profit?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on August 24, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
Wojo: "Yes, really!" (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=5488472&sportCat=mlb)

QuoteThe next manager of the Cubs has a high tolerance for excellence and a low tolerance for divas (uh-oh, Carlos Zambrano). As a bonus, he once told a sports writer, "I should drop you" -- as in, introduce the working end of his knuckles to the guy's jaw for asking one too many questions.



That sports writer was me.


Uh-oh, George Castle.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2010, 08:00:38 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 24, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
Wojo: "Yes, really!" (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=5488472&sportCat=mlb)

QuoteThe next manager of the Cubs has a high tolerance for excellence and a low tolerance for divas (uh-oh, Carlos Zambrano). As a bonus, he once told a sports writer, "I should drop you" -- as in, introduce the working end of his knuckles to the guy's jaw for asking one too many questions.



That sports writer was me.


Don't think there's going to be much of that around for him to have to tolerate.
Uh-oh, George Castle.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Slaky on August 24, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 24, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
Wojo: "Yes, really!" (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=5488472&sportCat=mlb)

QuoteThe next manager of the Cubs has a high tolerance for excellence and a low tolerance for divas (uh-oh, Carlos Zambrano). As a bonus, he once told a sports writer, "I should drop you" -- as in, introduce the working end of his knuckles to the guy's jaw for asking one too many questions.



That sports writer was me.


Uh-oh, George Castle.

Finally! Someone who won't tolerate Carlos Zambrano. That should fix everything that's wrong with the Cubs.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on August 24, 2010, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 24, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 24, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
Wojo: "Yes, really!" (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=5488472&sportCat=mlb)

QuoteThe next manager of the Cubs has a high tolerance for excellence and a low tolerance for divas (uh-oh, Carlos Zambrano). As a bonus, he once told a sports writer, "I should drop you" -- as in, introduce the working end of his knuckles to the guy's jaw for asking one too many questions.



That sports writer was me.


Uh-oh, George Castle.

Finally! Someone who won't tolerate Carlos Zambrano. That should fix everything that's wrong with the Cubs.

I'm tired of tolerating him not being good.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2010, 09:49:49 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 24, 2010, 09:43:26 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 24, 2010, 09:01:14 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 24, 2010, 07:43:40 AM
Wojo: "Yes, really!" (http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=5488472&sportCat=mlb)

QuoteThe next manager of the Cubs has a high tolerance for excellence and a low tolerance for divas (uh-oh, Carlos Zambrano). As a bonus, he once told a sports writer, "I should drop you" -- as in, introduce the working end of his knuckles to the guy's jaw for asking one too many questions.



That sports writer was me.


Uh-oh, George Castle.

Finally! Someone who won't tolerate Carlos Zambrano. That should fix everything that's wrong with the Cubs.

I'm tired of tolerating him not being good.

But can you tolerate his excellence?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 08:58:38 AM
Dave Van Dyk just told Mully and Hanley that Quade has the leg up for the top step full-time next season. He said Hendry really likes him, as he hired him in the first place. He agreed with what Dolan's been writing, that the Cubs hired Sandberg as window dressing and sent him deep into the minors in hopes that he'd get bored and quit.

According to Dave, they're hoping the Cubs finish with a .500+ record under Quade to make it an easier sell. The fans are going to absolutely fucking hate this.

I don't know how I feel about it, having yet to hear boo from Slezak on it, but it seems like Hendry would get the blame for the Quade hiring when the Cubs suck next year and both guys would be gone. That would open the door for the Maddux/Sandberg/Maddux/Dernier/Varsho/Wood regime to take over and save our motherloving souls.

Fuck.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: CBStew on August 25, 2010, 09:21:41 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 08:58:38 AM
Dave Van Dyk just told Mully and Hanley that Quade has the leg up for the top step full-time next season. He said Hendry really likes him, as he hired him in the first place. He agreed with what Dolan's been writing, that the Cubs hired Sandberg as window dressing and sent him deep into the minors in hopes that he'd get bored and quit.

According to Dave, they're hoping the Cubs finish with a .500+ record under Quade to make it an easier sell. The fans are going to absolutely fucking hate this.

I don't know how I feel about it, having yet to hear boo from Slezak on it, but it seems like Hendry would get the blame for the Quade hiring when the Cubs suck next year and both guys would be gone. That would open the door for the Maddux/Sandberg/Maddux/Dernier/Varsho/Wood regime to take over and save our motherloving souls.

Fuck.

Wait.  Are these guys going to manage/coach or play?  Think about Gary Varsho in uniform again.  Whom do we have who is better?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 09:29:54 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 25, 2010, 09:21:41 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 08:58:38 AM
Dave Van Dyk just told Mully and Hanley that Quade has the leg up for the top step full-time next season. He said Hendry really likes him, as he hired him in the first place. He agreed with what Dolan's been writing, that the Cubs hired Sandberg as window dressing and sent him deep into the minors in hopes that he'd get bored and quit.

According to Dave, they're hoping the Cubs finish with a .500+ record under Quade to make it an easier sell. The fans are going to absolutely fucking hate this.

I don't know how I feel about it, having yet to hear boo from Slezak on it, but it seems like Hendry would get the blame for the Quade hiring when the Cubs suck next year and both guys would be gone. That would open the door for the Maddux/Sandberg/Maddux/Dernier/Varsho/Wood regime to take over and save our motherloving souls.

Fuck.

Wait.  Are these guys going to manage/coach or play?  Think about Gary Varsho in uniform again.  Whom do we have who is better?

Everybody but Nady now that the gnomes are gone.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 09:33:30 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

Paul would approve of this sentiment. Needs more tits though.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: motown on August 25, 2010, 09:49:36 AM
http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=403055&src=152 (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=403055&src=152):

QuoteIn-game managing: Part of the fun of following baseball is discussing the manager's moves the next day. Sandberg says he prefers an aggressive style of managing.

"I think I go with what players I have," he said. "I let the players use their abilities and what they're capable of doing. If they're capable of stealing bases, I'm going to give them the green light. I'm going to teach them to pick their spots and to get a base when they can get a base.

"I like movement on the bases. I like to hit-and-run. I like to go for the win and force the issue and try to win a game as opposed to sitting back.

"It's somewhat gut feeling. It's somewhat experience. It's all those things making a split-(second) decision. It's whatever the game calls for at that time, and whatever my instincts tell me to do."

Well, it doesn't quite settle the question of how many times Sandberg calls for a bunt in the first inning, but I'm worried that it's time to sell high on my Sandberg memorabilia.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Waco Kid on August 25, 2010, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 08:58:38 AM
Dave Van Dyk just told Mully and Hanley that Quade has the leg up for the top step full-time next season. He said Hendry really likes him, as he hired him in the first place. He agreed with what Dolan's been writing, that the Cubs hired Sandberg as window dressing and sent him deep into the minors in hopes that he'd get bored and quit.

According to Dave, they're hoping the Cubs finish with a .500+ record under Quade to make it an easier sell. The fans are going to absolutely fucking hate this.

I don't know how I feel about it, having yet to hear boo from Slezak on it, but it seems like Hendry would get the blame for the Quade hiring when the Cubs suck next year and both guys would be gone. That would open the door for the Maddux/Sandberg/Maddux/Dernier/Varsho/Wood regime to take over and save our motherloving souls.

Fuck.

It could be even worse if Sandberg winds up managing somewhere else after being passed up for Quade.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 10:12:40 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on August 25, 2010, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 08:58:38 AM
Dave Van Dyk just told Mully and Hanley that Quade has the leg up for the top step full-time next season. He said Hendry really likes him, as he hired him in the first place. He agreed with what Dolan's been writing, that the Cubs hired Sandberg as window dressing and sent him deep into the minors in hopes that he'd get bored and quit.

According to Dave, they're hoping the Cubs finish with a .500+ record under Quade to make it an easier sell. The fans are going to absolutely fucking hate this.

I don't know how I feel about it, having yet to hear boo from Slezak on it, but it seems like Hendry would get the blame for the Quade hiring when the Cubs suck next year and both guys would be gone. That would open the door for the Maddux/Sandberg/Maddux/Dernier/Varsho/Wood regime to take over and save our motherloving souls.

Fuck.

It could be even worse if Sandberg winds up managing somewhere else after being passed up for Quade.

It could always be worse. He could end up replacing teh Genius and winning a World Series while I end up blowing my head off with a .44.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bonk on August 25, 2010, 10:19:00 AM
I like Quade's chances if a manager fight breaks out.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Richard Chuggar on August 25, 2010, 10:22:07 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 10:12:40 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on August 25, 2010, 10:09:09 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 08:58:38 AM
Dave Van Dyk just told Mully and Hanley that Quade has the leg up for the top step full-time next season. He said Hendry really likes him, as he hired him in the first place. He agreed with what Dolan's been writing, that the Cubs hired Sandberg as window dressing and sent him deep into the minors in hopes that he'd get bored and quit.

According to Dave, they're hoping the Cubs finish with a .500+ record under Quade to make it an easier sell. The fans are going to absolutely fucking hate this.

I don't know how I feel about it, having yet to hear boo from Slezak on it, but it seems like Hendry would get the blame for the Quade hiring when the Cubs suck next year and both guys would be gone. That would open the door for the Maddux/Sandberg/Maddux/Dernier/Varsho/Wood regime to take over and save our motherloving souls.

Fuck.

It could be even worse if Sandberg winds up managing somewhere else after being passed up for Quade.

It could always be worse. He could end up replacing teh Genius and winning a World Series while I end up blowing my head off with a .44.

I thought you said worse?
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Internet Apex on August 25, 2010, 10:23:18 AM
Quote from: Bonk on August 25, 2010, 10:19:00 AM
I like Quade's chances if a manager fight breaks out.

What if the other manager is Wendell Kim? DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Eli on August 25, 2010, 10:36:39 AM
Quote from: Ryne Sandberg on August 25, 2010, 09:49:36 AM
I like to go for the win and force the issue and try to win a game as opposed to sitting back.

And that was Hendry's problem with Alan Trammell's candidacy for manager; he's constantly sitting back and going for the loss, as evidenced by his time in Detroit.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Bort on August 25, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.

This.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on August 25, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.

This.

That.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 25, 2010, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 25, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.

This.

That.

Those.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: R-V on August 25, 2010, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 25, 2010, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 25, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.

This.

That.

Those.

Them ones.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: powen01 on August 25, 2010, 11:59:26 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 25, 2010, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 25, 2010, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 25, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.

This.

That.

Those.

Them ones.

Them there.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: powen01 on August 25, 2010, 11:59:26 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 25, 2010, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 25, 2010, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 25, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.

This.

That.

Those.

Them ones.

Them there.

That there.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: flannj on August 25, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: powen01 on August 25, 2010, 11:59:26 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 25, 2010, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 25, 2010, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 25, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.

This.

That.

Those.

Them ones.

Them there.

That there.

They.
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: fiveouts on August 25, 2010, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 25, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: powen01 on August 25, 2010, 11:59:26 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 25, 2010, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 25, 2010, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 25, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.

This.

That.

Those.

Them ones.

Them there.

That there.

They.

Mike Fontenot....doesn't care about hitting righties.


Did I do that right? 
Title: Re: Sandberg. Really?
Post by: PenPho on August 25, 2010, 04:07:19 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on August 25, 2010, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 25, 2010, 12:25:00 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 12:18:14 PM
Quote from: powen01 on August 25, 2010, 11:59:26 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 25, 2010, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 25, 2010, 11:36:56 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 25, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 25, 2010, 11:11:06 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 25, 2010, 11:04:49 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 25, 2010, 10:44:07 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 25, 2010, 09:05:20 AM
I'd be ok with Quade.

But I'm also self-aware enough to know that nobody gives a shit what I think.

I know little of Quade but for some reason, I have "FAIL" stuck in my mind if he's the manager in 2011.. I GOT A FEELING

I'm amused that someone would have WIN on their mind for 2011 regardless of who is hired.

This.

That.

Those.

Them ones.

Them there.

That there.

They.

Mike Fontenot....doesn't care about hitting righties.


Did I do that right? 

No, you did not.