Poll
Question:
How many keepers?
Option 1: 3
votes: 6
Option 2: 4
votes: 2
Option 3: 5
votes: 2
Option 4: Unlimited
votes: 10
League members, vote or die. Or, if you plan on trying to be one of the chosen someday, then you can vote, too. I don't think there's any way to regulate it.
I'd vote if I was in it. Sadface.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 14, 2010, 11:35:42 PM
I'd vote if I was in it. Sadface.
You can vote if you want to. I'll allow it.
COMMISH'd
I voted, even though I have no intention of ever playing.
I like to vote.
Quote from: MAD on February 15, 2010, 08:15:25 AM
I voted, even though I have no intention of ever playing.
I like to vote.
I voted for your mom.
Quote from: Oleg on February 15, 2010, 08:21:22 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 15, 2010, 08:15:25 AM
I voted, even though I have no intention of ever playing.
I like to vote.
I voted for your mom.
Your mom voted for my mom.
Quote from: MAD on February 15, 2010, 08:15:25 AM
I voted, even though I have no intention of ever playing.
I like to vote.
Dammit. I don't want my league rules determined by some red-faced mongoloid mick.
If it were up to him and Oleg, we'd all be up to our ears in Pony League draft charts right now.
Unlimited is winning. That's what the numbers say, anyway. I'll stop looking at this poll in a few days and just accept the results. So, if you're in the league and haven't voted, then you should. If you're in the league and your choice is losing, then you should probably find some dudes to vote for your choice. If unlimited wins, then the keeper deadline will be sooner than the others because it'll take up more of my precious time, y'all...DANG!
Quote from: JD on February 15, 2010, 09:28:56 PM
Unlimited is winning. That's what the numbers say, anyway. I'll stop looking at this poll in a few days and just accept the results. So, if you're in the league and haven't voted, then you should. If you're in the league and your choice is losing, then you should probably find some dudes to vote for your choice. If unlimited wins, then the keeper deadline will be sooner than the others because it'll take up more of my precious time, y'all...DANG!
My vote can be bought.
There are 16 votes. How many people are in the league?
Quote from: ChuckD on February 15, 2010, 09:37:24 PM
There are 16 votes. How many people are in the league?
Less than, equal to, or greater than that number. I don't remember. You're the numbers guy, ChuckD.
Quote from: ChuckD on February 15, 2010, 09:37:24 PM
There are 16 votes. How many people are in the league?
12 I believe.
And unlimited is a bad idea. It destroys the draft.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on February 15, 2010, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on February 15, 2010, 09:37:24 PM
There are 16 votes. How many people are in the league?
12 I believe.
And unlimited is a bad idea. It destroys the draft.
God forbid the draft that takes place over a computer with some people on auto-draft gets destroyed.
Play for the season, not the draft.
I vote unlimited.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on February 15, 2010, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on February 15, 2010, 09:37:24 PM
There are 16 votes. How many people are in the league?
12 I believe.
And unlimited is a bad idea. It destroys the draft.
Don't forget the 2 round adjustment on all keepers.
If anyone keeps huge chunks of their rosters, it'll just mean they'll be taking some of their keepers earlier than is optimal. Which means other quality players should fall to someone who might not have a shot at them otherwise.
How many of these Round 3 guys from last year will owners be willing to lose a first round pick for?
1. Prince Fielder
2. Matt Kemp
3. Carlos Quentin
4. CC Sabathia
5. Cole Hamels
6. Justin Morneau
7. Brandon Phillips
8. Jake Peavy
9. Brandon Webb
10. Jason Bay
11. Carl Crawford
12. Roy Halladay
How many of these 4th rounders are still good deals in Round 2?
1. Nick Markakis
2. Vladimir Guerrero
3. Brian McCann
4. Matt Holliday
5. Alexei Ramírez
6. David Ortiz
7. Adrián González
8. Geovany Soto
9. Aramis Ramírez
10. Ichiro Suzuki
11. Kevin Youkilis
12. Shane Victorino
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 15, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on February 15, 2010, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on February 15, 2010, 09:37:24 PM
There are 16 votes. How many people are in the league?
12 I believe.
And unlimited is a bad idea. It destroys the draft.
Don't forget the 2 round adjustment on all keepers.
If anyone keeps huge chunks of their rosters, it'll just mean they'll be taking some of their keepers earlier than is optimal. Which means other quality players should fall to someone who might not have a shot at them otherwise.
How many of these Round 3 guys from last year will owners be willing to lose a first round pick for?
1. Prince Fielder
2. Matt Kemp
3. Carlos Quentin
4. CC Sabathia
5. Cole Hamels
6. Justin Morneau
7. Brandon Phillips
8. Jake Peavy
9. Brandon Webb
10. Jason Bay
11. Carl Crawford
12. Roy Halladay
How many of these 4th rounders are still good deals in Round 2?
1. Nick Markakis
2. Vladimir Guerrero
3. Brian McCann
4. Matt Holliday
5. Alexei Ramírez
6. David Ortiz
7. Adrián González
8. Geovany Soto
9. Aramis Ramírez
10. Ichiro Suzuki
11. Kevin Youkilis
12. Shane Victorino
None, in either round.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 15, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on February 15, 2010, 10:32:18 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on February 15, 2010, 09:37:24 PM
There are 16 votes. How many people are in the league?
12 I believe.
And unlimited is a bad idea. It destroys the draft.
Don't forget the 2 round adjustment on all keepers.
If anyone keeps huge chunks of their rosters, it'll just mean they'll be taking some of their keepers earlier than is optimal. Which means other quality players should fall to someone who might not have a shot at them otherwise.
How many of these Round 3 guys from last year will owners be willing to lose a first round pick for?
1. Prince Fielder
2. Matt Kemp
3. Carlos Quentin
4. CC Sabathia
5. Cole Hamels
6. Justin Morneau
7. Brandon Phillips
8. Jake Peavy
9. Brandon Webb
10. Jason Bay
11. Carl Crawford
12. Roy Halladay
How many of these 4th rounders are still good deals in Round 2?
1. Nick Markakis
2. Vladimir Guerrero
3. Brian McCann
4. Matt Holliday
5. Alexei Ramírez
6. David Ortiz
7. Adrián González
8. Geovany Soto
9. Aramis Ramírez
10. Ichiro Suzuki
11. Kevin Youkilis
12. Shane Victorino
None, in either round.
See? This whole thing is fucking stupid.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 16, 2010, 10:49:34 AM
See? This whole thing is fucking stupid.
That all depends on what you're trying to accomplish.
If the goal is to be able to keep your best players, then yes...this won't work.
If the goal is to be able to benefit from a few good moves you made later in the draft or on waivers during the season, then this works reasonably well.
Knowing that, unlimited is the best option because it allows you whatever flexibility you want and realistically it's not like one person is going to be able to keep a boatload of players with the 2-round bump.
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 15, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
How many of these 4th rounders are still good deals in Round 2?
5. Alexei Ramírez
What a bargain in the 4th. Who did this person pick in the 3rd? Joe Crede?
Quote from: Pre on February 16, 2010, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 15, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
How many of these 4th rounders are still good deals in Round 2?
5. Alexei Ramírez
What a bargain in the 4th. Who did this person pick in the 3rd? Joe Crede?
BEST PLAYER IN CHICAGO
Quote from: Pre on February 16, 2010, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 15, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
How many of these 4th rounders are still good deals in Round 2?
5. Alexei Ramírez
What a bargain in the 4th. Who did this person pick in the 3rd? Joe Crede?
Peavy.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 02:53:35 PM
Quote from: Pre on February 16, 2010, 02:42:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 15, 2010, 10:55:26 PM
How many of these 4th rounders are still good deals in Round 2?
5. Alexei Ramírez
What a bargain in the 4th. Who did this person pick in the 3rd? Joe Crede?
Peavy.
Was that person PenFoe?
This Alexei Ramirez talk ends NOW
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 03:00:10 PM
This Alexei Ramirez talk ends NOW
He looks malnourished.
Yeti sure does love him some White Sox.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Yeti sure does love him some White Sox.
Peavy was originally a Father and set to be a child bear. Ain't my fault that got fucked up
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 03:28:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Yeti sure does love him some White Sox.
Peavy was originally a Father and set to be a child bear. Ain't my fault that got fucked up
"Father"... "child bear"... There's a Roman Catholic pedophilia joke in here somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can tease it out.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 03:28:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Yeti sure does love him some White Sox.
Peavy was originally a Father and set to be a child bear. Ain't my fault that got fucked up
"Father"... "child bear"... There's a Roman Catholic pedophilia joke in here somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can tease it out.
You tease the fuck out of it, and when you get done, shave my balls. They could use some care and maintenance.
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 03:28:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Yeti sure does love him some White Sox.
Peavy was originally a Father and set to be a child bear. Ain't my fault that got fucked up
"Father"... "child bear"... There's a Roman Catholic pedophilia joke in here somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can tease it out.
You tease the fuck out of it, and when you get done, shave my balls. They could use some care and maintenance.
This just done turned real, motha fucka!
Quote from: Oleg on February 16, 2010, 04:25:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 03:28:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Yeti sure does love him some White Sox.
Peavy was originally a Father and set to be a child bear. Ain't my fault that got fucked up
"Father"... "child bear"... There's a Roman Catholic pedophilia joke in here somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can tease it out.
You tease the fuck out of it, and when you get done, shave my balls. They could use some care and maintenance.
This just done turned real, motha fucka!
Ebonic'd.
You use "done" in place of "just" not in addition to it, FYI.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 16, 2010, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 16, 2010, 04:25:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 03:28:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Yeti sure does love him some White Sox.
Peavy was originally a Father and set to be a child bear. Ain't my fault that got fucked up
"Father"... "child bear"... There's a Roman Catholic pedophilia joke in here somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can tease it out.
You tease the fuck out of it, and when you get done, shave my balls. They could use some care and maintenance.
This just done turned real, motha fucka!
Ebonic'd.
You use "done" in place of "just" not in addition to it, FYI.
Ahhh. Thanks.
I think I mixed up my hillbilly and my ebonics.
Quote from: Oleg on February 16, 2010, 05:56:20 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 16, 2010, 04:44:16 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 16, 2010, 04:25:51 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 04:23:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 04:06:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 03:28:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 03:22:41 PM
Yeti sure does love him some White Sox.
Peavy was originally a Father and set to be a child bear. Ain't my fault that got fucked up
"Father"... "child bear"... There's a Roman Catholic pedophilia joke in here somewhere, but I'll be damned if I can tease it out.
You tease the fuck out of it, and when you get done, shave my balls. They could use some care and maintenance.
This just done turned real, motha fucka!
Ebonic'd.
You use "done" in place of "just" not in addition to it, FYI.
Ahhh. Thanks.
I think I mixed up my hillbilly and my ebonics.
I think I may have too... But where I'm from the brothers are hillbillies so... I guess it's all good, in the hood.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Should I put up another poll? Go with keepers this year or roll with Pen's suggestion? I'm game either way.
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Should I put up another poll? Go with keepers this year or roll with Pen's suggestion? I'm game either way.
Or you could install ChuckD's LOL-inducing (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205506#msg205506) user script and just ignore Pen completely.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Should I put up another poll? Go with keepers this year or roll with Pen's suggestion? I'm game either way.
Or you could install ChuckD's LOL-inducing (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205506#msg205506) user script and just ignore Pen completely.
I don't know what a user script is.
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Should I put up another poll? Go with keepers this year or roll with Pen's suggestion? I'm game either way.
Or you could install ChuckD's LOL-inducing (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205506#msg205506) user script and just ignore Pen completely.
I don't know what a user script is.
Tank explained the whole thing in the Shoutbox, and I still don't know what it is and why it's funny.
Quote from: CT III on February 16, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Should I put up another poll? Go with keepers this year or roll with Pen's suggestion? I'm game either way.
Or you could install ChuckD's LOL-inducing (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205506#msg205506) user script and just ignore Pen completely.
I don't know what a user script is.
Tank explained the whole thing in the Shoutbox, and I still don't know what it is and why it's funny.
I got it Tank, and appreciated it.. Don't listen to what these fuckers say
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 09:34:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on February 16, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Should I put up another poll? Go with keepers this year or roll with Pen's suggestion? I'm game either way.
Or you could install ChuckD's LOL-inducing (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205506#msg205506) user script and just ignore Pen completely.
I don't know what a user script is.
Tank explained the whole thing in the Shoutbox, and I still don't know what it is and why it's funny.
I got it Tank, and appreciated it.. Don't listen to what these fuckers say
Stay on topic, Yeti. What's your vote?
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 09:34:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on February 16, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Should I put up another poll? Go with keepers this year or roll with Pen's suggestion? I'm game either way.
Or you could install ChuckD's LOL-inducing (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205506#msg205506) user script and just ignore Pen completely.
I don't know what a user script is.
Tank explained the whole thing in the Shoutbox, and I still don't know what it is and why it's funny.
I got it Tank, and appreciated it.. Don't listen to what these fuckers say
Stay on topic, Yeti. What's your vote?
My vote's already in the tally. I voted for 3.
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 04:30:39 AM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 09:34:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on February 16, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Should I put up another poll? Go with keepers this year or roll with Pen's suggestion? I'm game either way.
Or you could install ChuckD's LOL-inducing (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205506#msg205506) user script and just ignore Pen completely.
I don't know what a user script is.
Tank explained the whole thing in the Shoutbox, and I still don't know what it is and why it's funny.
I got it Tank, and appreciated it.. Don't listen to what these fuckers say
Stay on topic, Yeti. What's your vote?
My vote's already in the tally. I voted for 3.
Check the league messages.
Quote from: Yeti on February 17, 2010, 04:30:39 AM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 10:21:46 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 16, 2010, 09:34:59 PM
Quote from: CT III on February 16, 2010, 09:11:28 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 08:48:02 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: JD on February 16, 2010, 07:50:13 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 16, 2010, 11:12:34 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 16, 2010, 10:56:52 AM
All that said, I don't know how you effectively decide the keeper rules AFTER the season.
You really should establish the rules prior to the draft so that you can plan moving forward.
Meaning that we do 0 keepers for the 2010 season, decide keeper rules now for the 2011 season, and go into this year's draft knowing those rules and planning accordingly.
Ideally, yes.
But I think everyone wants to do keepers this year, so we're left with the sub-optimal "haggle over rules after the fact" approach. Which is better than nothing.
Should I put up another poll? Go with keepers this year or roll with Pen's suggestion? I'm game either way.
Or you could install ChuckD's LOL-inducing (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205506#msg205506) user script and just ignore Pen completely.
I don't know what a user script is.
Tank explained the whole thing in the Shoutbox, and I still don't know what it is and why it's funny.
I got it Tank, and appreciated it.. Don't listen to what these fuckers say
Stay on topic, Yeti. What's your vote?
My vote's already in the tally. I voted for 3.
You make me sad sometimes. But it doesn't matter. I've reached my decision...
Coach stays.
League members, see league page.
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Don't worry. For some retardedly unknown reason, you can't keep your 1st or 2nd round pick. Also, a month before the draft this year we implemented the rule that you lose two rounds before you drafted the guy the year before, when there was no such rule.
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Do you want TDubbs's spot?
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Do you want TDubbs's spot?
You know where to throw an open spot if you get one, chieftan.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Do you want TDubbs's spot?
You know where to throw an open spot if you get one, chieftan.
You want Tip's spot?
Just kidding. Tip offers no input on any decision and complains constantly aboot them after they've been made, but he's active and easily ignored.
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Do you want TDubbs's spot?
You know where to throw an open spot if you get one, chieftan.
You want Tip's spot?
Just kidding. Tip offers no input on any decision and complains constantly aboot them after they've been made, but he's active and easily ignored.
Fuck that. I made plenty of proposals for rules. You just chose to use the stupider ones.
and . .
This was supposed to be the rule before the most retarded rule of lose 2 rounds before you drafted him. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5516.msg169332#msg169332) I said it before, and I'll say it again, you can't set keeper rules a month before the draft. If anything, there should be no keepers this year if we're going to impose the 2 round dump.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 18, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Do you want TDubbs's spot?
You know where to throw an open spot if you get one, chieftan.
You want Tip's spot?
Just kidding. Tip offers no input on any decision and complains constantly aboot them after they've been made, but he's active and easily ignored.
Fuck that. I made plenty of proposals for rules. You just chose to use the stupider ones.
and . .
This was supposed to be the rule before the most retarded rule of lose 2 rounds before you drafted him. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5516.msg169332#msg169332) I said it before, and I'll say it again, you can't set keeper rules a month before the draft. If anything, there should be no keepers this year if we're going to impose the 2 round dump.
I don't see how a 2 round dump would change anyone's draft strategy. Would you try and get Miguel Cabrera in the third instead of the first? Because he probably wouldn't slide that far.
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 18, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Do you want TDubbs's spot?
You know where to throw an open spot if you get one, chieftan.
You want Tip's spot?
Just kidding. Tip offers no input on any decision and complains constantly aboot them after they've been made, but he's active and easily ignored.
Fuck that. I made plenty of proposals for rules. You just chose to use the stupider ones.
and . .
This was supposed to be the rule before the most retarded rule of lose 2 rounds before you drafted him. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5516.msg169332#msg169332) I said it before, and I'll say it again, you can't set keeper rules a month before the draft. If anything, there should be no keepers this year if we're going to impose the 2 round dump.
I don't see how a 2 round dump would change anyone's draft strategy. Would you try and get Miguel Cabrera in the third instead of the first? Because he probably wouldn't slide that far.
I'd keep my 3rd rounder, Carl Crawford, as a 3rd rounder. b/c he's a good pick there. As a 1st rounder, not so much. Evan Longoria in the 2nd round is an awesome pick. But I can't even think about keeping him now apparently.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 18, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 18, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Do you want TDubbs's spot?
You know where to throw an open spot if you get one, chieftan.
You want Tip's spot?
Just kidding. Tip offers no input on any decision and complains constantly aboot them after they've been made, but he's active and easily ignored.
Fuck that. I made plenty of proposals for rules. You just chose to use the stupider ones.
and . .
This was supposed to be the rule before the most retarded rule of lose 2 rounds before you drafted him. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5516.msg169332#msg169332) I said it before, and I'll say it again, you can't set keeper rules a month before the draft. If anything, there should be no keepers this year if we're going to impose the 2 round dump.
I don't see how a 2 round dump would change anyone's draft strategy. Would you try and get Miguel Cabrera in the third instead of the first? Because he probably wouldn't slide that far.
I'd keep my 3rd rounder, Carl Crawford, as a 3rd rounder. b/c he's a good pick there. As a 1st rounder, not so much. Evan Longoria in the 2nd round is an awesome pick. But I can't even think about keeping him now apparently.
I'm aware that the people you keep would change, but how would that have changed where you drafted them. I'm saying that I don't see how your draft strategy from last year would have changed. I don't really see how it would change this year. You just don't get the guarantee they'd be on your team. Guess what...you could still draft them.
The rule's intended to keep the draft strong and so guys can't sit on dude's they got in the 20th round for 5 years while they produce at All-Star levels. Or something.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 18, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 18, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Do you want TDubbs's spot?
You know where to throw an open spot if you get one, chieftan.
You want Tip's spot?
Just kidding. Tip offers no input on any decision and complains constantly aboot them after they've been made, but he's active and easily ignored.
Fuck that. I made plenty of proposals for rules. You just chose to use the stupider ones.
and . .
This was supposed to be the rule before the most retarded rule of lose 2 rounds before you drafted him. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5516.msg169332#msg169332) I said it before, and I'll say it again, you can't set keeper rules a month before the draft. If anything, there should be no keepers this year if we're going to impose the 2 round dump.
I don't see how a 2 round dump would change anyone's draft strategy. Would you try and get Miguel Cabrera in the third instead of the first? Because he probably wouldn't slide that far.
I'd keep my 3rd rounder, Carl Crawford, as a 3rd rounder. b/c he's a good pick there. As a 1st rounder, not so much. Evan Longoria in the 2nd round is an awesome pick. But I can't even think about keeping him now apparently.
I agree with this.
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 10:00:21 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 18, 2010, 09:49:40 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 09:32:02 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 18, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 06:06:50 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
Quote from: JD on February 18, 2010, 05:40:16 PM
Quote from: Simmer on February 18, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Any open spots for a league founder? Eh?
I think the original intention of the league was to use 'unlimited', unless there was majority opposition. We thought an arbitrary number would be just that -- arbitrary. So we implemented the unlimited option, giving owners full say on who stays and who goes. As mentioned, it does take the impact out of the draft, but that is the trade-off of a keeper league.
Do you want TDubbs's spot?
You know where to throw an open spot if you get one, chieftan.
You want Tip's spot?
Just kidding. Tip offers no input on any decision and complains constantly aboot them after they've been made, but he's active and easily ignored.
Fuck that. I made plenty of proposals for rules. You just chose to use the stupider ones.
and . .
This was supposed to be the rule before the most retarded rule of lose 2 rounds before you drafted him. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=5516.msg169332#msg169332) I said it before, and I'll say it again, you can't set keeper rules a month before the draft. If anything, there should be no keepers this year if we're going to impose the 2 round dump.
I don't see how a 2 round dump would change anyone's draft strategy. Would you try and get Miguel Cabrera in the third instead of the first? Because he probably wouldn't slide that far.
I'd keep my 3rd rounder, Carl Crawford, as a 3rd rounder. b/c he's a good pick there. As a 1st rounder, not so much. Evan Longoria in the 2nd round is an awesome pick. But I can't even think about keeping him now apparently.
I'm aware that the people you keep would change, but how would that have changed where you drafted them. I'm saying that I don't see how your draft strategy from last year would have changed. I don't really see how it would change this year. You just don't get the guarantee they'd be on your team. Guess what...you could still draft them.
The rule's intended to keep the draft strong and so guys can't sit on dude's they got in the 20th round for 5 years while they produce at All-Star levels. Or something.
It changes where you'd draft somebody b/c if you really wanted them on your team last year, you had to reach for them a little bit. Like me taking David Price in like the 9th or something. Hoping I'd get to keep him for a handful of years in a great round (if he wasn't so sucky). YOu should be rewarded for drafting a guy later and him being good, not penalized so you other turds can get him b/c I'm not allowed to keep a stud that I really want on my team.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 19, 2010, 05:13:45 AM
YOu should be rewarded for drafting a guy later and him being good, not penalized so you other turds can get him b/c I'm not allowed to keep a stud that I really want on my team.
That's exactly what we're doing, blockhead.
If you drafted a guy and he wound up being good enough last season to be drafted two-plus rounds earlier this year: good job, fantasy baseball genius! You just earned yourself a quality keeper.
If not, but you still think he'll be leaps and bounds better next year and so still want to hang on to him, well... you can always "reach" for him again on this potential. This time two rounds earlier than you reached for him last year.
And, yeah, if he keeps getting awesomer and awesomer, eventually he'll be pushed high enough that you'll have to dump him back into the draft pool. No one ever said we were getting keepers for life. If you want that, you should go draft middle school kids with Huey and Oleg or something.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 19, 2010, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 19, 2010, 05:13:45 AM
YOu should be rewarded for drafting a guy later and him being good, not penalized so you other turds can get him b/c I'm not allowed to keep a stud that I really want on my team.
That's exactly what we're doing, blockhead.
If you drafted a guy and he wound up being good enough last season to be drafted two-plus rounds earlier this year: good job, fantasy baseball genius! You just earned yourself a quality keeper.
If not, but you still think he'll be leaps and bounds better next year and so still want to hang on to him, well... you can always "reach" for him again on this potential. This time two rounds earlier than you reached for him last year.
And, yeah, if he keeps getting awesomer and awesomer, eventually he'll be pushed high enough that you'll have to dump him back into the draft pool. No one ever said we were getting keepers for life. If you want that, you should go draft middle school kids with Huey and Oleg or something.
Shit, even we have limits on how long you can keep a player.
Quote from: Oleg on February 19, 2010, 08:50:13 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 19, 2010, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 19, 2010, 05:13:45 AM
YOu should be rewarded for drafting a guy later and him being good, not penalized so you other turds can get him b/c I'm not allowed to keep a stud that I really want on my team.
That's exactly what we're doing, blockhead.
If you drafted a guy and he wound up being good enough last season to be drafted two-plus rounds earlier this year: good job, fantasy baseball genius! You just earned yourself a quality keeper.
If not, but you still think he'll be leaps and bounds better next year and so still want to hang on to him, well... you can always "reach" for him again on this potential. This time two rounds earlier than you reached for him last year.
And, yeah, if he keeps getting awesomer and awesomer, eventually he'll be pushed high enough that you'll have to dump him back into the draft pool. No one ever said we were getting keepers for life. If you want that, you should go draft middle school kids with Huey and Oleg or something.
Shit, even we have limits on how long you can keep a player.
Once they grow pubes?
Quote from: Yeti on February 19, 2010, 10:05:09 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 19, 2010, 08:50:13 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 19, 2010, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 19, 2010, 05:13:45 AM
YOu should be rewarded for drafting a guy later and him being good, not penalized so you other turds can get him b/c I'm not allowed to keep a stud that I really want on my team.
That's exactly what we're doing, blockhead.
If you drafted a guy and he wound up being good enough last season to be drafted two-plus rounds earlier this year: good job, fantasy baseball genius! You just earned yourself a quality keeper.
If not, but you still think he'll be leaps and bounds better next year and so still want to hang on to him, well... you can always "reach" for him again on this potential. This time two rounds earlier than you reached for him last year.
And, yeah, if he keeps getting awesomer and awesomer, eventually he'll be pushed high enough that you'll have to dump him back into the draft pool. No one ever said we were getting keepers for life. If you want that, you should go draft middle school kids with Huey and Oleg or something.
Shit, even we have limits on how long you can keep a player.
Once they grow pubes?
This ain't Menudo.
Quote from: Oleg on February 19, 2010, 10:10:01 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 19, 2010, 10:05:09 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 19, 2010, 08:50:13 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 19, 2010, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 19, 2010, 05:13:45 AM
YOu should be rewarded for drafting a guy later and him being good, not penalized so you other turds can get him b/c I'm not allowed to keep a stud that I really want on my team.
That's exactly what we're doing, blockhead.
If you drafted a guy and he wound up being good enough last season to be drafted two-plus rounds earlier this year: good job, fantasy baseball genius! You just earned yourself a quality keeper.
If not, but you still think he'll be leaps and bounds better next year and so still want to hang on to him, well... you can always "reach" for him again on this potential. This time two rounds earlier than you reached for him last year.
And, yeah, if he keeps getting awesomer and awesomer, eventually he'll be pushed high enough that you'll have to dump him back into the draft pool. No one ever said we were getting keepers for life. If you want that, you should go draft middle school kids with Huey and Oleg or something.
Shit, even we have limits on how long you can keep a player.
Once they grow pubes?
This ain't Menudo.
(http://i49.tinypic.com/bdlbsx.jpg)
Quote from: Yeti on February 19, 2010, 10:05:09 AM
Quote from: Oleg on February 19, 2010, 08:50:13 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 19, 2010, 08:33:52 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 19, 2010, 05:13:45 AM
YOu should be rewarded for drafting a guy later and him being good, not penalized so you other turds can get him b/c I'm not allowed to keep a stud that I really want on my team.
That's exactly what we're doing, blockhead.
If you drafted a guy and he wound up being good enough last season to be drafted two-plus rounds earlier this year: good job, fantasy baseball genius! You just earned yourself a quality keeper.
If not, but you still think he'll be leaps and bounds better next year and so still want to hang on to him, well... you can always "reach" for him again on this potential. This time two rounds earlier than you reached for him last year.
And, yeah, if he keeps getting awesomer and awesomer, eventually he'll be pushed high enough that you'll have to dump him back into the draft pool. No one ever said we were getting keepers for life. If you want that, you should go draft middle school kids with Huey and Oleg or something.
Shit, even we have limits on how long you can keep a player.
Once they grow pubes?
Bravo, Yeti....Bravo.
Also, on an unrelated note, I'm not hanging out in the SBox on a Sunday night to discuss the rules.
Whatever y'all come up with, just let the rest of us know.
My only firm stance is that dudes who were ever on waivers should get the waiver/free agent keeper rules applied to them, even if they were drafted at one point.
All I know, is that if a spot opens up, I'll defend it like an NBA player boxing out in the paint. That's right, I will throw my ass into you. Don't pretend like you weren't expecting it.
Quote from: Simmer on February 19, 2010, 11:45:08 AM
All I know, is that if a spot opens up, I'll defend it like an NBA player boxing out in the paint. That's right, I will throw my ass into you. Don't pretend like you weren't expecting it.
Either that or you'll just stand around and be extremely well-hung.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Also, on an unrelated note, I'm not hanging out in the SBox on a Sunday night to discuss the rules.
Whatever y'all come up with, just let the rest of us know.
My only firm stance is that dudes who were ever on waivers should get the waiver/free agent keeper rules applied to them, even if they were drafted at one point.
I disagree. If a guy was drafted, then that's his spot, in my opinion.
1) some guy's impatience should not mean some dude gets a righteous keeper.
2) we don't know who was traded and who was picked up. i know there were only a handful of trades last year, but i don't remember any of them. and what if a guy was traded once, but then some dude dropped him? the guy that drafted him might think he's still worth the original draft position
Quote from: JD on February 19, 2010, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Also, on an unrelated note, I'm not hanging out in the SBox on a Sunday night to discuss the rules.
Whatever y'all come up with, just let the rest of us know.
My only firm stance is that dudes who were ever on waivers should get the waiver/free agent keeper rules applied to them, even if they were drafted at one point.
I disagree. If a guy was drafted, then that's his spot, in my opinion.
1) some guy's impatience should not mean some dude gets a righteous keeper.
2) we don't know who was traded and who was picked up. i know there were only a handful of trades last year, but i don't remember any of them. and what if a guy was traded once, but then some dude dropped him? the guy that drafted him might think he's still worth the original draft position
We could very easily figure this out.
Stop being lazy.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 21, 2010, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: JD on February 19, 2010, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Also, on an unrelated note, I'm not hanging out in the SBox on a Sunday night to discuss the rules.
Whatever y'all come up with, just let the rest of us know.
My only firm stance is that dudes who were ever on waivers should get the waiver/free agent keeper rules applied to them, even if they were drafted at one point.
I disagree. If a guy was drafted, then that's his spot, in my opinion.
1) some guy's impatience should not mean some dude gets a righteous keeper.
2) we don't know who was traded and who was picked up. i know there were only a handful of trades last year, but i don't remember any of them. and what if a guy was traded once, but then some dude dropped him? the guy that drafted him might think he's still worth the original draft position
We could very easily figure this out.
Stop being lazy.
Very easily?
Go on and show us, internet wizard.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 21, 2010, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: JD on February 19, 2010, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Also, on an unrelated note, I'm not hanging out in the SBox on a Sunday night to discuss the rules.
Whatever y'all come up with, just let the rest of us know.
My only firm stance is that dudes who were ever on waivers should get the waiver/free agent keeper rules applied to them, even if they were drafted at one point.
I disagree. If a guy was drafted, then that's his spot, in my opinion.
1) some guy's impatience should not mean some dude gets a righteous keeper.
2) we don't know who was traded and who was picked up. i know there were only a handful of trades last year, but i don't remember any of them. and what if a guy was traded once, but then some dude dropped him? the guy that drafted him might think he's still worth the original draft position
We could very easily figure this out.
Stop being lazy.
What Thrill said.
And what did you do to set up the league?
burnFACE'd
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 21, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 21, 2010, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: JD on February 19, 2010, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Also, on an unrelated note, I'm not hanging out in the SBox on a Sunday night to discuss the rules.
Whatever y'all come up with, just let the rest of us know.
My only firm stance is that dudes who were ever on waivers should get the waiver/free agent keeper rules applied to them, even if they were drafted at one point.
I disagree. If a guy was drafted, then that's his spot, in my opinion.
1) some guy's impatience should not mean some dude gets a righteous keeper.
2) we don't know who was traded and who was picked up. i know there were only a handful of trades last year, but i don't remember any of them. and what if a guy was traded once, but then some dude dropped him? the guy that drafted him might think he's still worth the original draft position
We could very easily figure this out.
Stop being lazy.
Very easily?
Go on and show us, internet wizard.
I know this may be hard to believe, but not EVERY problem needs the internet for solving.
Sometimes, you can just use your memory.
I traded you Adrian Gonzalez and Magglio for Holliday and Delgado.
I traded Yeti Harden for Choo.
I traded Apex Russell Martin, J.A. Happ, Orlando Hudson and Jorge Cantu for Chone Figgins and Geo Soto.
I would confidently venture to say that there were no more than 6 trades in the whole league, and there are 3 of them.
RV and Yeti traded Jayson Werth for Derek Jeter, that's four.
I'm sure with just a touch of collective thought, spearheaded by those involved, we could come up with all of them.
Quote from: PenFoe on February 21, 2010, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 21, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 21, 2010, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: JD on February 19, 2010, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Also, on an unrelated note, I'm not hanging out in the SBox on a Sunday night to discuss the rules.
Whatever y'all come up with, just let the rest of us know.
My only firm stance is that dudes who were ever on waivers should get the waiver/free agent keeper rules applied to them, even if they were drafted at one point.
I disagree. If a guy was drafted, then that's his spot, in my opinion.
1) some guy's impatience should not mean some dude gets a righteous keeper.
2) we don't know who was traded and who was picked up. i know there were only a handful of trades last year, but i don't remember any of them. and what if a guy was traded once, but then some dude dropped him? the guy that drafted him might think he's still worth the original draft position
We could very easily figure this out.
Stop being lazy.
Very easily?
Go on and show us, internet wizard.
I know this may be hard to believe, but not EVERY problem needs the internet for solving.
Sometimes, you can just use your memory.
I traded you Adrian Gonzalez and Magglio for Holliday and Delgado.
I traded Yeti Harden for Choo.
I traded Apex Russell Martin, J.A. Happ, Orlando Hudson and Jorge Cantu for Chone Figgins and Geo Soto.
I would confidently venture to say that there were no more than 6 trades in the whole league, and there are 3 of them.
RV and Yeti traded Jayson Werth for Derek Jeter, that's four.
I'm sure with just a touch of collective thought, spearheaded by those involved, we could come up with all of them.
I think you sent me a proposal to give me R.A. Dickey and O-Dog for Michael Young and Clayton Kershaw about three different times last year. Does that help?
Quote from: PenFoe on February 21, 2010, 05:24:53 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 21, 2010, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 21, 2010, 12:55:19 PM
Quote from: JD on February 19, 2010, 05:30:24 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 11:22:17 AM
Also, on an unrelated note, I'm not hanging out in the SBox on a Sunday night to discuss the rules.
Whatever y'all come up with, just let the rest of us know.
My only firm stance is that dudes who were ever on waivers should get the waiver/free agent keeper rules applied to them, even if they were drafted at one point.
I disagree. If a guy was drafted, then that's his spot, in my opinion.
1) some guy's impatience should not mean some dude gets a righteous keeper.
2) we don't know who was traded and who was picked up. i know there were only a handful of trades last year, but i don't remember any of them. and what if a guy was traded once, but then some dude dropped him? the guy that drafted him might think he's still worth the original draft position
We could very easily figure this out.
Stop being lazy.
Very easily?
Go on and show us, internet wizard.
I know this may be hard to believe, but not EVERY problem needs the internet for solving.
Sometimes, you can just use your memory.
I traded you Adrian Gonzalez and Magglio for Holliday and Delgado.
I traded Yeti Harden for Choo.
I traded Apex Russell Martin, J.A. Happ, Orlando Hudson and Jorge Cantu for Chone Figgins and Geo Soto.
I would confidently venture to say that there were no more than 6 trades in the whole league, and there are 3 of them.
RV and Yeti traded Jayson Werth for Derek Jeter, that's four.
I'm sure with just a touch of collective thought, spearheaded by those involved, we could come up with all of them.
I assure you that I made at least one or two trades and I can't remember one or either of them or it.
Hockey's about to start, so in the event that I miss the internet brain trust roundtable tonight, my preferences:
Keepers this season.
Unlimited keepers, unlimited free agent keepers.
Keepers to be taken two rounds earlier than their draft position last year.
Free agent keepers to be taken in Round 13.
To keep multiple players in the same round (or have multiple free agent keepers), take one in that round and the other(s) in earlier rounds.
(E.g., if you want to keep an undrafted waiver pickup, a player you drafted in the 15th last year and a player drafted in the 15th that you got via a trade—all of which would normally have to be taken in the 13th, you would take one in the 11th, one in the 12th and one in the 13th.)
In the latter case, which round you use on which player is up to you, but you have to indicate the rounds for each when you turn in your keepers by JD's deadline.
Drafted is drafted, regardless of how you acquired a particular player. STFUPF.
Settled. Check the new Commish Note. Sim and Gil are in, too.
Why does it even matter when CT kills everyone in this league without even trying?
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Why does it even matter when CT kills everyone in this league without even trying?
BLAME CT!
Remember that, guys?
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 23, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Why does it even matter when CT kills everyone in this league without even trying?
BLAME CT!
Remember that, guys?
no.
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 23, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Why does it even matter when CT kills everyone in this league without even trying?
BLAME CT!
Remember that, guys?
That's BLAME IT ON CT! you IDOTI.
Quote from: CT III on February 23, 2010, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 23, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Why does it even matter when CT kills everyone in this league without even trying?
BLAME CT!
Remember that, guys?
That's BLAME IT ON CT! you IDOTI.
It's IDITO, you IDOTI.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 23, 2010, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: CT III on February 23, 2010, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 23, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Why does it even matter when CT kills everyone in this league without even trying?
BLAME CT!
Remember that, guys?
That's BLAME IT ON CT! you IDOTI.
It's IDITO, you IDOTI.
I'm doing my own thing, man.
Quote from: CT III on February 23, 2010, 01:00:55 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on February 23, 2010, 12:42:13 PM
Quote from: CT III on February 23, 2010, 12:28:48 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 23, 2010, 12:02:20 PM
Quote from: BH on February 23, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
Why does it even matter when CT kills everyone in this league without even trying?
BLAME CT!
Remember that, guys?
That's BLAME IT ON CT! you IDOTI.
It's IDITO, you IDOTI.
I'm doing my own thing, man.
IDOTI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIwkqTZyraE)