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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2008, 10:20:47 AM »
Quote from: 5laky on June 26, 2008, 10:09:49 AM
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Anyone still believe there's no need for a dominant closer?

A dominant closer?  Yes, I still believe that.  A dominant bullpen, another story altogether.  In fact, I would argue this Cubs bullpen is an argument for why spending resources on a dominant closer is foolish.  Wood, Marmol, and Howry cost less than Wagner.  Which would you rather have?

Wood has a hometown-discount contract. If he went on the open market, you can bet your tiny hairy ass he'd get Wagner money.

Still, if he keeps this up...maybe it's just naiveté on my part...I see the Cubs paying him whatever he deserves and keeping him here. He's been fucking awesome.

Say what you want about Hendry, but no Cubs' FA that Hendry has wanted to stay here hasn't stayed.

Wood ain't going anywhere.
Don't read too much into any of it. It's Rozner. He's a fucking idiot.

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2008, 10:37:11 AM »
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
Quote from: 5laky on June 26, 2008, 10:09:49 AM
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 10:07:22 AM
Quote from: Oleg on June 26, 2008, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 08:32:01 AM

Anyone still believe there's no need for a dominant closer?

A dominant closer?  Yes, I still believe that.  A dominant bullpen, another story altogether.  In fact, I would argue this Cubs bullpen is an argument for why spending resources on a dominant closer is foolish.  Wood, Marmol, and Howry cost less than Wagner.  Which would you rather have?

Wood has a hometown-discount contract. If he went on the open market, you can bet your tiny hairy ass he'd get Wagner money.

Still, if he keeps this up...maybe it's just naiveté on my part...I see the Cubs paying him whatever he deserves and keeping him here. He's been fucking awesome.

Say what you want about Hendry, but no Cubs' FA that Hendry has wanted to stay here hasn't stayed.

Wood ain't going anywhere.

He gave a bit of a hometown discount this year, although most of it was a history of injury discount.  He will cost next year.  That said, I agree, it's not my money, although I wish it were.
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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2008, 10:40:02 AM »
FORKUDOME IS RIGHT!!!

Name one free agent Hendry wanted to keep who got away. Matt Clement doesn't count. Nobody really wanted that slapdick around here.
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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2008, 10:50:31 AM »
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
Say what you want about Hendry, but no Cubs' FA that Hendry has wanted to stay here hasn't stayed.

Wood ain't going anywhere.
But Hendry is.  The probability is that Hendry won't be the one negotiating any extension with Wood.

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2008, 10:53:42 AM »
Quote from: Chuckosan on June 26, 2008, 10:50:31 AM
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
Say what you want about Hendry, but no Cubs' FA that Hendry has wanted to stay here hasn't stayed.

Wood ain't going anywhere.
But Hendry is.  The probability is that Hendry won't be the one negotiating any extension with Wood.

Why would the new owner get rid of a GM after a very successful season?

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2008, 10:54:57 AM »
Every FA that Hendry brought back was because they would've had a huge void in that spot.  They have Marmol to replace Wood and Marmol, some time soon, is gonna ask for big money.  It's unusual to have two high paid (as in closers money) relievers in the back of a bullpen.
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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2008, 10:55:55 AM »
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on June 26, 2008, 10:54:57 AM
Every FA that Hendry brought back was because they would've had a huge void in that spot.  They have Marmol to replace Wood and Marmol, some time soon, is gonna ask for big money.  It's unusual to have two high paid (as in closers money) relievers in the back of a bullpen.

Unless you're the Cubs and you signed Eyre and Howry.

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2008, 10:56:15 AM »
Quote from: butthead on June 26, 2008, 10:53:42 AM
Quote from: Chuckosan on June 26, 2008, 10:50:31 AM
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
Say what you want about Hendry, but no Cubs' FA that Hendry has wanted to stay here hasn't stayed.

Wood ain't going anywhere.
But Hendry is.  The probability is that Hendry won't be the one negotiating any extension with Wood.

Why would the new owner get rid of a GM after a very successful season?

Don't get him started.  We'll have to bring Chuck North in.

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2008, 10:57:53 AM »
Quote from: Chuckosan on June 26, 2008, 10:50:31 AM
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
Say what you want about Hendry, but no Cubs' FA that Hendry has wanted to stay here hasn't stayed.

Wood ain't going anywhere.
But Hendry is.  The 1% probability is that Hendry won't be the one negotiating any extension with Wood.

Reality'd. Clearly Chuck North wasn't paying attention in the shoutbox yesterday.

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2008, 10:59:35 AM »
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2008, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on June 26, 2008, 10:54:57 AM
Every FA that Hendry brought back was because they would've had a huge void in that spot.  They have Marmol to replace Wood and Marmol, some time soon, is gonna ask for big money.  It's unusual to have two high paid (as in closers money) relievers in the back of a bullpen.

Unless you're the Cubs and you signed Eyre and Howry.

Even they aren't getting closer money.  Marmol is going to get it (either from the Cubs or elsewhere).
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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2008, 11:05:06 AM »
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on June 26, 2008, 10:59:35 AM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2008, 10:55:55 AM
Quote from: Andre Dawson's Creek on June 26, 2008, 10:54:57 AM
Every FA that Hendry brought back was because they would've had a huge void in that spot.  They have Marmol to replace Wood and Marmol, some time soon, is gonna ask for big money.  It's unusual to have two high paid (as in closers money) relievers in the back of a bullpen.

Unless you're the Cubs and you signed Eyre and Howry.

Even they aren't getting closer money.  Marmol is going to get it (either from the Cubs or elsewhere).

Until set-up men have the same status as closers, guys like Marmol are going to want the spotlight and the cash. Holds are a sexy stat and don't bring in the big bucks. He's going to want to close.

People don't value relievers that aren't closers. Look at the new Steinbrenner that thought Chamberlain was being wasted in the Yankees bullpen. Somebody will eventually pay Marmol to close games.

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2008, 11:14:05 AM »
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 10:20:47 AM
Quote from: 5laky on June 26, 2008, 10:09:49 AM
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 10:07:22 AM
Quote from: Oleg on June 26, 2008, 09:38:51 AM
Quote from: PTanner on June 26, 2008, 08:32:01 AM

Anyone still believe there's no need for a dominant closer?

A dominant closer?  Yes, I still believe that.  A dominant bullpen, another story altogether.  In fact, I would argue this Cubs bullpen is an argument for why spending resources on a dominant closer is foolish.  Wood, Marmol, and Howry cost less than Wagner.  Which would you rather have?

Wood has a hometown-discount contract. If he went on the open market, you can bet your tiny hairy ass he'd get Wagner money.

Still, if he keeps this up...maybe it's just naiveté on my part...I see the Cubs paying him whatever he deserves and keeping him here. He's been fucking awesome.

Say what you want about Hendry, but no Cubs' FA that Hendry has wanted to stay here hasn't stayed.

Wood ain't going anywhere.

I agree.

I think the Cubs will reciprocate in terms of money based on the way Wood has handled himself the past few years here.

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2008, 11:19:03 AM »
Quote from: butthead on June 26, 2008, 10:53:42 AM
Why would the new owner get rid of a GM after a very successful season?
Oh my...

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2008, 11:53:23 AM »
Quote from: Chuckosan on June 26, 2008, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: butthead on June 26, 2008, 10:53:42 AM
Why would the new owner get rid of a GM after a very successful season?
Oh my...

If the Cubs win 95 games and make the playoffs, a new owner isn't going to get rid of Hendry.

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Re: Kerry Wood Sploogefest Thread
« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2008, 12:08:13 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 26, 2008, 11:53:23 AM
Quote from: Chuckosan on June 26, 2008, 11:19:03 AM
Quote from: butthead on June 26, 2008, 10:53:42 AM
Why would the new owner get rid of a GM after a very successful season?
Oh my...

If the Cubs win 95 games and make the playoffs, a new owner isn't going to get rid of Hendry.

Would Hendry stay?