These are some not very nice people. I can't imagine that Chicago politicians are pleased about this series. It is engrossing. Disgusting. Unintentionally funny. (Grammar unleashes a lengthy sentence in which the only adjective is "fucking", as in "Fucking Abraham Lincoln" and "fucking Civil War.") Scary. And convincing. I am a fan of Kelsey Grammar as a comedic actor. I have not been a fan of his personal ethos nor his politics. But damn, he is a heavyweight dramatic actor when he wants to be.
Quote from: CBStew on October 22, 2011, 10:40:27 AM
These are some not very nice people. I can't imagine that Chicago politicians are pleased about this series. It is engrossing. Disgusting. Unintentionally funny. (Grammar unleashes a lengthy sentence in which the only adjective is "fucking", as in "Fucking Abraham Lincoln" and "fucking Civil War.") Scary. And convincing. I am a fan of Kelsey Grammar as a comedic actor. I have not been a fan of his personal ethos nor his politics. But damn, he is a heavyweight dramatic actor when he wants to be.
"Down Periscope" taught me this.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 22, 2011, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 22, 2011, 10:40:27 AM
These are some not very nice people. I can't imagine that Chicago politicians are pleased about this series. It is engrossing. Disgusting. Unintentionally funny. (Grammar unleashes a lengthy sentence in which the only adjective is "fucking", as in "Fucking Abraham Lincoln" and "fucking Civil War.") Scary. And convincing. I am a fan of Kelsey Grammar as a comedic actor. I have not been a fan of his personal ethos nor his politics. But damn, he is a heavyweight dramatic actor when he wants to be.
"Down Periscope" taught me this.
"Down Periscope" taught me only that I wanted to fuck Lauren Holly. I have no idea if I still do.
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2011, 05:42:25 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 22, 2011, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 22, 2011, 10:40:27 AM
These are some not very nice people. I can't imagine that Chicago politicians are pleased about this series. It is engrossing. Disgusting. Unintentionally funny. (Grammar unleashes a lengthy sentence in which the only adjective is "fucking", as in "Fucking Abraham Lincoln" and "fucking Civil War.") Scary. And convincing. I am a fan of Kelsey Grammar as a comedic actor. I have not been a fan of his personal ethos nor his politics. But damn, he is a heavyweight dramatic actor when he wants to be.
"Down Periscope" taught me this.
"Down Periscope" taught me only that I wanted to fuck Lauren Holly. I have no idea if I still do.
Going to go out on a limb and say you probably still do. (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2726260/lauren_holly_nude_fatwa/) NSFW
Quote from: ChuckD on October 23, 2011, 01:38:08 PM
Quote from: Tonker on October 22, 2011, 05:42:25 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on October 22, 2011, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: CBStew on October 22, 2011, 10:40:27 AM
These are some not very nice people. I can't imagine that Chicago politicians are pleased about this series. It is engrossing. Disgusting. Unintentionally funny. (Grammar unleashes a lengthy sentence in which the only adjective is "fucking", as in "Fucking Abraham Lincoln" and "fucking Civil War.") Scary. And convincing. I am a fan of Kelsey Grammar as a comedic actor. I have not been a fan of his personal ethos nor his politics. But damn, he is a heavyweight dramatic actor when he wants to be.
"Down Periscope" taught me this.
"Down Periscope" taught me only that I wanted to fuck Lauren Holly. I have no idea if I still do.
Going to go out on a limb and say you probably still do. (http://www.metacafe.com/watch/2726260/lauren_holly_nude_fatwa/) NSFW
Oh, go on then.
This show is a heavyweight. I know that the critics love it, but I wonder if there is an audience for it? I assume that it gets a lot of attention in Chicago. One of the messages that it sends is that the mayor of the biggest city in the state is more powerful than the governor of the state. That is not true in California, but I am not sure why.
Quote from: CBStew on November 14, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
This show is a heavyweight. I know that the critics love it, but I wonder if there is an audience for it? I assume that it gets a lot of attention in Chicago. One of the messages that it sends is that the mayor of the biggest city in the state is more powerful than the governor of the state. That is not true in California, but I am not sure why.
Too many big cities in CA. IL only has one. The Mayor of Chicago governs 21% of the state population. The mayor of LA governs 10.2%.
Add in the sway the Mayor has over Cook County (40.6% of the state population) and it's even more obvious.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 14, 2011, 01:51:41 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 14, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
This show is a heavyweight. I know that the critics love it, but I wonder if there is an audience for it? I assume that it gets a lot of attention in Chicago. One of the messages that it sends is that the mayor of the biggest city in the state is more powerful than the governor of the state. That is not true in California, but I am not sure why.
Too many big cities in CA. IL only has one. The Mayor of Chicago governs 21% of the state population. The mayor of LA governs 10.2%.
Add in the sway the Mayor has over Cook County (40.6% of the state population) and it's even more obvious.
The size of the electorate in the city is important, but I don't think it is determinative. It has to be how well organized the political machine is and who is beholden to whom. When I first came to California the "Boss" was Jesse Unruh, the Speaker of the Assembly. More recently the "Boss" was Willie Brown, who was Speaker of the Assembly before he became Mayor of San Francisco. But the same thing did did not happen when a more recent Speaker (Antonio Villagairosa) became Mayor of Los Angeles. The power came from being Speaker, not from being the Mayor of a big city. But I think that you are right about there being too many big cities in California to concentrate power in one mayor.
GOTTERDAMMERUNG!
DVDs for Season 1 came out this week. Kelsey was great. The rest, meh. Connie Nielsen's accent sneaks out pretty regularly (Danish, not Chicago) which is kinda funny.
Kathleen Robertson. Nice.
Quote from: CBStew on November 14, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
This show is a heavyweight. I know that the critics love it, but I wonder if there is an audience for it? I assume that it gets a lot of attention in Chicago. One of the messages that it sends is that the mayor of the biggest city in the state is more powerful than the governor of the state. That is not true in California, but I am not sure why.
Didn't conventional wisdom hold, at one time--in your day, Stew--that the three most powerful people in the country were the President of the US, the governor of New York, and the mayor of Chicago? Not saying this was true, but that it was the perception?
Quote from: PANK! on August 22, 2012, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 14, 2011, 01:01:08 PM
This show is a heavyweight. I know that the critics love it, but I wonder if there is an audience for it? I assume that it gets a lot of attention in Chicago. One of the messages that it sends is that the mayor of the biggest city in the state is more powerful than the governor of the state. That is not true in California, but I am not sure why.
Didn't conventional wisdom hold, at one time--in your day, Stew--that the three most powerful people in the country were the President of the US, the governor of New York, and the mayor of Chicago? Not saying this was true, but that it was the perception?
I never believed that the man makes the times.
Cancelled.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/kelsey-grammer-starz-boss-canceled-393242