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Canadouche

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #330 on: October 15, 2017, 10:30:17 AM »
Is it possible that running a program in which you keep all your starters -- even if healthy -- below 200 innings a year results in overusing your relievers to the point where they can't be relied upon by the end of the year? I don't think they're bad, I just think they're out of gas.
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« Reply #331 on: October 15, 2017, 10:01:10 PM »
Nice pitching, John.

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #332 on: October 15, 2017, 10:01:14 PM »
I really hope that's the last time we see Lackey pitch for the Cubs.

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« Reply #333 on: October 15, 2017, 10:01:49 PM »
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on October 15, 2017, 10:01:14 PM
I really hope that's the last time we see Lackey pitch for the Cubs.

Would've been a moot point if the offense had managed to do something.
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #334 on: October 15, 2017, 10:02:10 PM »
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on October 15, 2017, 10:01:14 PM
I really hope that's the last time we see Lackey pitch for the Cubs.
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #335 on: October 15, 2017, 11:45:41 PM »
I'm not arguing the point of Lackey's meatball, just that with the exception of G5 of the NLDS, this group offensively has been a bunch of gutless, fucking pussies.

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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #336 on: October 16, 2017, 08:17:46 AM »
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on October 15, 2017, 10:01:14 PM
I really hope that's the last time we see Lackey pitch for the Cubs.

It would certainly be a fitting ending.
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« Reply #337 on: October 17, 2017, 11:43:19 PM »
What I'm struggling with - starters and pen - is how many non-competitive pitches they throw out of the zone.  It seems like everyone we've faced rarely works 2 or 3 ball counts and is just pounding the zone.  And for our pitchers, this has been a trend all season...rarely do starters work into the 7th or 8th because their pitch count is driven up by a high volume of balls thrown.

I'm not sure if this is us now being behind philosophically, pitchers being tired, or what, but this postseason is suggesting that there's a lot to be said for just throwing strikes early in the count.
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #338 on: October 18, 2017, 08:11:42 AM »
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 17, 2017, 11:43:19 PM
What I'm struggling with - starters and pen - is how many non-competitive pitches they throw out of the zone.  It seems like everyone we've faced rarely works 2 or 3 ball counts and is just pounding the zone.  And for our pitchers, this has been a trend all season...rarely do starters work into the 7th or 8th because their pitch count is driven up by a high volume of balls thrown.

I'm not sure if this is us now being behind philosophically, pitchers being tired, or what, but this postseason is suggesting that there's a lot to be said for just throwing strikes early in the count.

This is the biggest revelation since the discovery that outscoring your opponent results in victories.
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« Reply #339 on: April 17, 2018, 08:21:20 AM »
bump. Jepstink did some good shopping this winter.
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #340 on: April 17, 2018, 09:09:31 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 17, 2018, 08:21:20 AM
bump. Jepstink did some good shopping this winter.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.

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« Reply #341 on: April 17, 2018, 01:47:06 PM »
Quote from: Shooter on April 17, 2018, 09:09:31 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 17, 2018, 08:21:20 AM
bump. Jepstink did some good shopping this winter.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.

Instead of a guy like Cishek who only gets guys out he could have gotten someone who throws normally.
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Re: This. Fucking. Bullpen.
« Reply #342 on: April 17, 2018, 01:50:31 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 17, 2018, 01:47:06 PM
Quote from: Shooter on April 17, 2018, 09:09:31 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 17, 2018, 08:21:20 AM
bump. Jepstink did some good shopping this winter.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.

Instead of a guy like Cishek who only gets guys out he could have gotten someone who throws normally.

Cishek is great. I love those sidearmed weirdoes.
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« Reply #343 on: April 19, 2018, 03:45:49 PM »
There's the Eddie Butler we all know and love.

Did I say love? Sorry, I meant the opposite.
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« Reply #344 on: April 19, 2018, 03:54:18 PM »
The HBP stunk but that was a hell of a job by Cishek to avoid the total meltdown there.
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