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Tank

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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #285 on: June 25, 2009, 02:13:30 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on June 25, 2009, 09:28:33 AM
Quote from: Tank on June 24, 2009, 05:49:04 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 24, 2009, 03:39:37 PM
Also, a 143 OPS+ means that the player has an OPS (remember, it's "adjusted") that 43% than average.

Not exactly.

OPS+ doesn't actually directly compare a player's OPS to league average OPS.

Rather, the ratio of a player's ballpark-adjusted OBP over league OBP is added to the ratio of his ballpark-adjusted SLG over league SLG, and the sum normalized to 100:

OPS+ = 100 * ( (OBP / league OBP) + (SLG / league SLG) - 1)

Say, for sake of easy math, league OBP and SLG are both .400, and league OPS therefore: .400 + .400 = .800...

A player whose park-adjusted OBP and SLG are both 50% better than these league averages (.600 each) would have an OPS that is also 50% better than the league (.600 + .600 = 1.200 = .800*1.5).

His OPS+, however, would be...

100*((.600/.400)+(.600/.400)-1) = 200

...a full 100% higher than league average.

Interesting.  So, a 144 OPS+ would mean that the player OPSed roughly 22% better than league average?  That would make more sense.

Something like that.

Except, a less eye-popping number like that may understate just how much better this player actually is versus the average player in real baseball terms.

I mean, for sake of context, a full-season OPS+ at 150 or over is really fucking good—orders of magnitude better than the average player, colloquially speaking.

A season OPS+ over 150 easily puts a player among the top 10 batters across baseball each year (often enough top 5; maybe only top 15 or top 20 at the height of the steroid era).

By the same token, a season OPS+ of 200 or above is beyond elite.

Since 1901, there have only been 17 batters who've managed to put up a full-season OPS+ at this level one or more seasons (49 total seasons between them).

The complete list:

Barry Bonds
Mark McGwire
Jeff Bagwell
Frank Thomas
George Brett
Willie McCovey
Mickey Mantle
Norm Cash
Ted Williams
Stan Musial
Lou Gehrig
Jimmie Foxx
Rogers Hornsby
Babe Ruth
Ty Cobb
Honus Wagner
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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #286 on: June 25, 2009, 02:14:52 PM »
Quote from: Waco Kid on June 25, 2009, 02:04:24 PM
http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/bradley-grabs-some-bench.html

QuoteManager Lou Piniella has benched Bradley today against Detroit, and said the mercurial outfielder probably won't play on Friday either.

"Let's just call it a day off for today," Piniella said, adding Bradley will play on Saturday and Sunday "for sure."

Call it what you want, but it's still a benching. Bradley is hitting .205 against right-handers with 30 strikeouts in 117 at-bats.The Cubs face left-handers Mark Buehrle and John Danks on Saturday and Sunday.

Way to bury the lede...

Quote"You know what, it's true," he said with a laugh. "It usually works. This one didn't work."

In the past, Piniella might've chalked it up to being a "Cubbie Occurrence." But on Thursday he officially buried the term he coined in 2007.
"So, this old man comes over to us and starts ragging on us to get down from there and really not being mean. Well, being a drunk gnome, I started yelling at teh guy... like really loudly."

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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #287 on: June 25, 2009, 02:35:09 PM »
Quote from: Tank on June 25, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
A season OPS+ over 150 easily puts a player among the top 10 batters across baseball each year (often enough top 5; maybe only top 15 or top 20 at the height of the steroid era).

By the same token, a season OPS+ of 200 or above is beyond elite.

So, like, this was pretty good?


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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #288 on: June 25, 2009, 02:36:16 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 25, 2009, 02:35:09 PM
Quote from: Tank on June 25, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
A season OPS+ over 150 easily puts a player among the top 10 batters across baseball each year (often enough top 5; maybe only top 15 or top 20 at the height of the steroid era).

By the same token, a season OPS+ of 200 or above is beyond elite.

So, like, this was pretty good?



Whose numbers are those?  Jeff Kent's?
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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #289 on: June 25, 2009, 02:38:10 PM »
Quote from: Eli on June 25, 2009, 02:35:09 PM
Quote from: Tank on June 25, 2009, 02:13:30 PM
A season OPS+ over 150 easily puts a player among the top 10 batters across baseball each year (often enough top 5; maybe only top 15 or top 20 at the height of the steroid era).

By the same token, a season OPS+ of 200 or above is beyond elite.

So, like, this was pretty good?



Not as good as what Weebs put up in his softball league. Nor what he put up in his 15 year 2K9 career with the sliders set to "Jesus Christ."

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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #290 on: June 25, 2009, 06:33:32 PM »
Michael touched so many people..
I think he's more of the appendix of Desipio.  Yeah, it's here and you're vaguely aware of it, but only if reminded.  The only time anyone notices it is when it ruptures (on Weebs in the video game thread).  Beyond that, though, it's basically useless and offers no redeeming value.
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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #291 on: June 26, 2009, 09:44:33 AM »
Quote from: MAD on June 25, 2009, 06:33:32 PM
Michael touched so many people..

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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #292 on: June 26, 2009, 05:04:15 PM »
Milton didn't come out after the 6th inning, he hurt again?

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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #294 on: June 26, 2009, 05:06:06 PM »

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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #296 on: June 26, 2009, 05:27:13 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on June 26, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Slak on June 26, 2009, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
Milton didn't come out after the 6th inning, he hurt again?

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/did-piniella-and-bradley-have-it-out.html

I hope he called up Steve Stone in the booth after and bitched him out.

Fuck this guy.

I love Milton Bradley and I wish you wouldn't be so mean toward BH.

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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #297 on: June 26, 2009, 05:28:07 PM »
Quote from: ChuckD on June 26, 2009, 05:27:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 26, 2009, 05:24:20 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:06:06 PM
Quote from: Slak on June 26, 2009, 05:04:53 PM
Quote from: BH on June 26, 2009, 05:04:15 PM
Milton didn't come out after the 6th inning, he hurt again?

http://blogs.chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports_hardball/2009/06/did-piniella-and-bradley-have-it-out.html

I hope he called up Steve Stone in the booth after and bitched him out.

Fuck this guy.

I love Milton Bradley and I wish you wouldn't be so mean toward BH.

I meant Steve Stone.

no I didn't
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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #298 on: June 26, 2009, 06:58:54 PM »
DPD.

Lou speaks.

Quote
Cubs manager Lou Piniella explained his tiff with outfielder Milton Bradley during a post-game chat with reporters Friday evening.
Piniella pulled Bradley in the sixth inning and the two exchanged heated words in the clubhouse tunnel. "I told him to take his uniform off," Lou said. "He threw his helmet and smashed a water cooler, water flying all over. I just told him to take his uniform off and go home. I followed him up into the clubhouse, and we exchanged some words." GM Jim Hendry added that he'll have a chat with Bradley on Saturday.
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Re: Crazy Uncle Milton's Shot Blasting Sploogefest Emporium
« Reply #299 on: June 26, 2009, 08:27:54 PM »
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-27-cubs-milton-bradley-side-jun27,0,40471.story

QuoteBefore throwing his helmet and the sports drink cooler, before getting into a heated exchange with manager Lou Piniella and before being sent home in the sixth inning, Milton Bradley spoke candidly of his feeling of isolation in the Cubs clubhouse.