Ryan Dempster announced as the Cubs' Opening Day starter. For the last time?
NOT TODAY, ZURG!
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 23, 2012, 02:35:30 PM
Ryan Dempster announced as the Cubs' Opening Day starter. For the last time?
So who hits the grand slam off of him?
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 25, 2012, 10:35:58 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 23, 2012, 02:35:30 PM
Ryan Dempster announced as the Cubs' Opening Day starter. For the last time?
So who hits the grand slam off of him?
Depends who's batting cleanup in the top of the first.
This (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1118496-cubs-trade-rumors-10-players-theyd-love-to-land-before-opening-day/) is the only offseason list of guys the Cubs want before opening day you should read. DaRoosa? check.
And our number one target - 54 yr old roy oswalt. Genius.
Quote from: BH on March 27, 2012, 01:34:29 PM
This (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1118496-cubs-trade-rumors-10-players-theyd-love-to-land-before-opening-day/) is the only offseason list of guys the Cubs want before opening day you should read. DaRoosa? check.
And our number one target - 54 yr old roy oswalt. Genius.
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8. Ryan Flaherty - He joins Andrew Sisco and Donnie Veal as the notable Rule 5's to be taken from the Cubs.
With company like that, this is obviously going to come back to haunt us.
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4. Jerome Williams
Wait...seriously?
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3. Mike Pelfrey
Clearly what the Cubs need is another mediocre guy fighting for that last spot in the rotation.
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1. Roy Oswalt - The Cubs are in need of starting pitching, and if they are considering a run in 2012, adding Roy Oswalt would not be a bad idea.
Anyone who thinks that the Cubs
are considering a run in 2012 should not be writing on the internet.
I'm not sure I should hate or thank BH for continuing to troll the internet to find the stupidest people to link to.
Quote from: PenPho on March 27, 2012, 01:44:43 PM
Quote from: BH on March 27, 2012, 01:34:29 PM
This (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1118496-cubs-trade-rumors-10-players-theyd-love-to-land-before-opening-day/) is the only offseason list of guys the Cubs want before opening day you should read. DaRoosa? check.
And our number one target - 54 yr old roy oswalt. Genius.
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8. Ryan Flaherty - He joins Andrew Sisco and Donnie Veal as the notable Rule 5's to be taken from the Cubs.
With company like that, this is obviously going to come back to haunt us.
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4. Jerome Williams
Wait...seriously?
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3. Mike Pelfrey
Clearly what the Cubs need is another mediocre guy fighting for that last spot in the rotation.
Quote
1. Roy Oswalt - The Cubs are in need of starting pitching, and if they are considering a run in 2012, adding Roy Oswalt would not be a bad idea.
Anyone who thinks that the Cubs are considering a run in 2012 should not be writing on the internet.
I'm not sure I should hate or thank BH for continuing to troll the internet to find the stupidest people to link to.
When i saw the daroosa mention, I assumed Tec wrote the article. If i'm right, Pen's days are numbered.
Quote from: BH on March 27, 2012, 01:34:29 PM
This (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1118496-cubs-trade-rumors-10-players-theyd-love-to-land-before-opening-day/) is the only offseason list of guys the Cubs want before opening day you should read. DaRoosa? check.
And our number one target - 54 yr old roy oswalt. Genius.
Anyone on Bleacher Report makes Alvin look like Bill James.
Quote from: BH on March 27, 2012, 01:48:06 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 27, 2012, 01:44:43 PM
Quote from: BH on March 27, 2012, 01:34:29 PM
This (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1118496-cubs-trade-rumors-10-players-theyd-love-to-land-before-opening-day/) is the only offseason list of guys the Cubs want before opening day you should read. DaRoosa? check.
And our number one target - 54 yr old roy oswalt. Genius.
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8. Ryan Flaherty - He joins Andrew Sisco and Donnie Veal as the notable Rule 5's to be taken from the Cubs.
With company like that, this is obviously going to come back to haunt us.
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4. Jerome Williams
Wait...seriously?
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3. Mike Pelfrey
Clearly what the Cubs need is another mediocre guy fighting for that last spot in the rotation.
Quote
1. Roy Oswalt - The Cubs are in need of starting pitching, and if they are considering a run in 2012, adding Roy Oswalt would not be a bad idea.
Anyone who thinks that the Cubs are considering a run in 2012 should not be writing on the internet.
I'm not sure I should hate or thank BH for continuing to troll the internet to find the stupidest people to link to.
When i saw the daroosa mention, I assumed Tec wrote the article. If i'm right, Pen's days are numbered.
DA CUBBIEZ NEVER SHOODA GOT RID OF DAROOSA!
Pen knows I didn't write this. If I had, Dave Patton would have been #1.
The Cubs are missing some pretty important names on this list. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120328&content_id=27700314&vkey=pr_chc&c_id=chc)
QuoteThe Audi Legends Suite provides a premier space to watch Cubs baseball at Wrigley Field with a view into the Cubs' dugout. Each suite rental includes a visit from a former Cubs player such as Hall of Famers Ernie Banks, Fergie Jenkins and Billy Williams, or fan favorites such as Doug Glanville, Randy Hundley, Dave Otto, Milt Pappas, Scott Sanderson, Lee Smith, Tim Stoddard, Rick Sutcliffe, Steve Trout and others. Each guest will receive an autographed baseball and ball cube (||) from that day's former Cubs player.
Dave Otto was popular? Was I too young for Ottomania? Anyway, I'm pumped to someday hang out with a middle-aged Ryan Theriot who's finally back on the wrong side of the rivalry. Or
Aramis Ramirez fuck that lazy asshole. Hopefully I'll get to see Augie Ojeda, Terry Mulholland, three-time World Series champion and former Philadelphia Phillies manager Ryne Sandberg, Lassie Edmonds, and Mark DaRoosa too. Thanks, Audi!
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2012, 09:24:10 PM
The Cubs are missing some pretty important names on this list. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120328&content_id=27700314&vkey=pr_chc&c_id=chc)
QuoteThe Audi Legends Suite provides a premier space to watch Cubs baseball at Wrigley Field with a view into the Cubs' dugout. Each suite rental includes a visit from a former Cubs player such as Hall of Famers Ernie Banks, Fergie Jenkins and Billy Williams, or fan favorites such as Doug Glanville, Randy Hundley, Dave Otto, Milt Pappas, Scott Sanderson, Lee Smith, Tim Stoddard, Rick Sutcliffe, Steve Trout and others. Each guest will receive an autographed baseball and ball cube (||) from that day's former Cubs player.
Dave Otto was popular? Was I too young for Ottomania? Anyway, I'm pumped to someday hang out with a middle-aged Ryan Theriot who's finally back on the wrong side of the rivalry. Or Aramis Ramirez fuck that lazy asshole. Hopefully I'll get to see Augie Ojeda, Terry Mulholland, three-time World Series champion and former Philadelphia Phillies manager Ryne Sandberg, Lassie Edmonds, and Mark DaRoosa too. Thanks, Audi!
I would pay $1,000.00 to sit in the Audi Legends Suite if it meant I got to watch Milt Pappas and Huey discuss how that no-good ratfuck Bruce Froemming wrecked Milt's chances at a perfect game.
Quote from: CT III on March 28, 2012, 09:41:09 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2012, 09:24:10 PM
The Cubs are missing some pretty important names on this list. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120328&content_id=27700314&vkey=pr_chc&c_id=chc)
QuoteThe Audi Legends Suite provides a premier space to watch Cubs baseball at Wrigley Field with a view into the Cubs' dugout. Each suite rental includes a visit from a former Cubs player such as Hall of Famers Ernie Banks, Fergie Jenkins and Billy Williams, or fan favorites such as Doug Glanville, Randy Hundley, Dave Otto, Milt Pappas, Scott Sanderson, Lee Smith, Tim Stoddard, Rick Sutcliffe, Steve Trout and others. Each guest will receive an autographed baseball and ball cube (||) from that day's former Cubs player.
Dave Otto was popular? Was I too young for Ottomania? Anyway, I'm pumped to someday hang out with a middle-aged Ryan Theriot who's finally back on the wrong side of the rivalry. Or Aramis Ramirez fuck that lazy asshole. Hopefully I'll get to see Augie Ojeda, Terry Mulholland, three-time World Series champion and former Philadelphia Phillies manager Ryne Sandberg, Lassie Edmonds, and Mark DaRoosa too. Thanks, Audi!
I would pay $1,000.00 to sit in the Audi Legends Suite if it meant I got to watch Milt Pappas and Huey discuss how that no-good ratfuck Bruce Froemming wrecked Milt's chances at a perfect game.
THI
Quote from: SKO on March 29, 2012, 08:14:03 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 28, 2012, 09:41:09 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 28, 2012, 09:24:10 PM
The Cubs are missing some pretty important names on this list. (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120328&content_id=27700314&vkey=pr_chc&c_id=chc)
QuoteThe Audi Legends Suite provides a premier space to watch Cubs baseball at Wrigley Field with a view into the Cubs' dugout. Each suite rental includes a visit from a former Cubs player such as Hall of Famers Ernie Banks, Fergie Jenkins and Billy Williams, or fan favorites such as Doug Glanville, Randy Hundley, Dave Otto, Milt Pappas, Scott Sanderson, Lee Smith, Tim Stoddard, Rick Sutcliffe, Steve Trout and others. Each guest will receive an autographed baseball and ball cube (||) from that day's former Cubs player.
Dave Otto was popular? Was I too young for Ottomania? Anyway, I'm pumped to someday hang out with a middle-aged Ryan Theriot who's finally back on the wrong side of the rivalry. Or Aramis Ramirez fuck that lazy asshole. Hopefully I'll get to see Augie Ojeda, Terry Mulholland, three-time World Series champion and former Philadelphia Phillies manager Ryne Sandberg, Lassie Edmonds, and Mark DaRoosa too. Thanks, Audi!
I would pay $1,000.00 to sit in the Audi Legends Suite if it meant I got to watch Milt Pappas and Huey discuss how that no-good ratfuck Bruce Froemming wrecked Milt's chances at a perfect game.
THI
THA
Randy Wells to Iowa. Clevenger wins the back up catcher gig.
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2012, 10:42:40 AM
Randy Wells to Iowa. Clevenger wins the back up catcher gig.
Huzzah.
Lots of crazy shit going down.
Rotation is: Dempster, Garza, Swashbuckler, Voltron and MAW HOLLUM.
DeWitt made the team.
[W] <-- flap x 75 in 2012.
My prediction is that by the end of November this thread will have around 50000 posts. Most of them will be of the "WTF?" variety.
Quote from: CBStew on March 29, 2012, 01:19:37 PM
My prediction is that by the end of November this thread will have around 50000 posts. Most of them will be of the "WTF?" variety.
I think it'll have like 95 after apathy sets in during May about the blandest 73-win team ever.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2012, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 29, 2012, 01:19:37 PM
My prediction is that by the end of November this thread will have around 50000 posts. Most of them will be of the "WTF?" variety.
I think it'll have like 95 after apathy sets in during May about the blandest 73-win team ever.
Jim Lefebrve's 1992 Cubs would like to have a word with you.
What if David De Hayzus really is the Jesus and he was just waiting til 2012 to come back and piss in the Mayans' cornflakes? If that happens, I'd say 78 wins is a very real possibility.
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
Quote from: PANK! on March 29, 2012, 01:36:23 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2012, 01:34:43 PM
Quote from: CBStew on March 29, 2012, 01:19:37 PM
My prediction is that by the end of November this thread will have around 50000 posts. Most of them will be of the "WTF?" variety.
I think it'll have like 95 after apathy sets in during May about the blandest 73-win team ever.
Jim Lefebrve's 1992 Cubs would like to have a word with you.
No thank you.
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
Huey.
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
Darwin Barney?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
Darwin Barney?
It's gotta be Snork. Or possibly this Joe Mather guy who I know nothing about but I imagine is a less talented Sam Fuld that dipshits will embrace.
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
I have a guy in mind.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
Darwin Barney?
The only Asian dude on the team? No.
Quote from: R-V on March 29, 2012, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
Darwin Barney?
It's gotta be Snork. Or possibly this Joe Mather guy who I know nothing about but I imagine is a less talented Sam Fuld that dipshits will embrace.
Intrepid Reader: Tony CampanaHi.
I think Dempster's going to suck and I already don't like him. So there is my answer.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 29, 2012, 03:03:13 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
Darwin Barney?
The only Asian dude on the team? No.
I'd be all for the glorious Japanese woman you posted in the WTF Japan thread, but Asian Theriot? Meh.
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
This has been a pretty burning question for me for the last few weeks.
I'm going with Soto, by default, but I feel like I have a really high capacity for change with this team right now.
Quote from: PenPho on March 29, 2012, 03:43:13 PM
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
This has been a pretty burning question for me for the last few weeks.
I'm going with Soto, by default, but I feel like I have a really high capacity for change with this team right now.
I want Dempster and the other gutless assholes to play like All-Stars so Epstoyer can trade them away for prospects who are actually good at baseball.
Quote from: R-V on March 29, 2012, 02:56:46 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2012, 02:51:35 PM
Quote from: BH on March 29, 2012, 02:26:41 PM
Have we decided who we are going to hate this season yet?
Darwin Barney?
It's gotta be Snork. Or possibly this Joe Mather guy who I know nothing about but I imagine is a less talented Sam Fuld that dipshits will embrace.
Wait up there, pardner. When Sam Fuld smushed his face into the ivy to rob a batter of a double he made my list of all time favorite Cubs.
I've got a strong distaste for Darwin Barney already. If he continues to be a bitch hitter all season with his empty .290 batting average I'll continue hating his guts.
If Samardzija stumbles he'll be a real easy target.
Seems like everyone hates Dempster but I actually don't.
I'll always hate blake dewitt and jeff baker.
The Sun-Times talking about the possibility of trading Wells, the "6th starter":
"General manager Jed Hoyer emphasized the importance of pitching depth when asked about his willingness to trade a starter.
``Trading out of [that depth] can be complicated,'' he said. ``We definitely don't take having depth lightly.''
WTF? Depth? The Cubs' starters? The Cubs are deep in starting pitching? If "depth" means that the Cubs have six guys who can pitch deep into the second inning then I guess that they are "deep" in starting pitchers.
Quote from: CBStew on March 29, 2012, 04:30:12 PM
The Sun-Times talking about the possibility of trading Wells, the "6th starter":
"General manager Jed Hoyer emphasized the importance of pitching depth when asked about his willingness to trade a starter.
``Trading out of [that depth] can be complicated,'' he said. ``We definitely don't take having depth lightly.''
WTF? Depth? The Cubs' starters? The Cubs are deep in starting pitching? If "depth" means that the Cubs have six guys who can pitch deep into the second inning then I guess that they are "deep" in starting pitchers.
Damn. Wells was my pick-to-hate too.
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Seems like everyone hates Dempster but I actually don't.
He likes to do impressions and that outweighs being an outstanding starter for 3 of the last 4 years. It's simple math.
Quote from: CBStew on March 29, 2012, 04:30:12 PM
The Sun-Times talking about the possibility of trading Wells, the "6th starter":
"General manager Jed Hoyer emphasized the importance of pitching depth when asked about his willingness to trade a starter.
``Trading out of [that depth] can be complicated,'' he said. ``We definitely don't take having depth lightly.''
WTF? Depth? The Cubs' starters? The Cubs are deep in starting pitching? If "depth" means that the Cubs have six guys who can pitch deep into the second inning then I guess that they are "deep" in starting pitchers.
That kind of depth causes spinal injuries.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2012, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Seems like everyone hates Dempster but I actually don't.
He likes to do impressions and that outweighs being an outstanding starter for 3 of the last 4 years. It's simple math.
Good point. Let's ignore the fact that this unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery has managed to pitch the Cubs out of the playoffs in two seperate seasons because he's had a whopping
three really good regular seasons.
Yay?
*rolls eyes*
Fuck him.
Snork stays in the FIREBARN until he proves otherwise.
Fuck it. He's in there even he wins the goddamn Cy Young.
For absolutely no reason, I'm going with Ian Stewart.
Neifi.
Quote from: PANK! on March 29, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
Let's ignore the fact that this unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery has managed to pitch the Cubs out of the playoffs in two seperate seasons ...
Apparently you're counting his one scoreless mop-up inning in 2007 as pitching the Cubs out of the playoffs?
Quote from: PANK! on March 29, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2012, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Seems like everyone hates Dempster but I actually don't.
He likes to do impressions and that outweighs being an outstanding starter for 3 of the last 4 years. It's simple math.
Good point. Let's ignore the fact that this unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery has managed to pitch the Cubs out of the playoffs in two seperate seasons because he's had a whopping three really good regular seasons.
Yay?
*rolls eyes*
Fuck him.
No, fuck you, spudslut.
I'm with Eli and Slaky here
You statfags will never take my hate away from me.
Fuck Dempster on principle.
Quote from: PANK! on March 29, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2012, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Seems like everyone hates Dempster but I actually don't.
He likes to do impressions and that outweighs being an outstanding starter for 3 of the last 4 years. It's simple math.
Good point. Let's ignore the fact that this unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery has managed to pitch the Cubs out of the playoffs in two seperate seasons because he's had a whopping three really good regular seasons.
Yay?
*rolls eyes*
Fuck him.
When was the second time he pitched the Cubs out of the playoffs?
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2012, 10:26:41 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 29, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2012, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Seems like everyone hates Dempster but I actually don't.
He likes to do impressions and that outweighs being an outstanding starter for 3 of the last 4 years. It's simple math.
Good point. Let's ignore the fact that this unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery has managed to pitch the Cubs out of the playoffs in two seperate seasons because he's had a whopping three really good regular seasons.
Yay?
*rolls eyes*
Fuck him.
When was the second time he pitched the Cubs out of the playoffs?
Right after the first time
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
I've got a strong distaste for Darwin Barney already. If he continues to be a bitch hitter all season with his empty .290 batting average I'll continue hating his guts.
If Samardzija stumbles he'll be a real easy target.
Seems like everyone hates Dempster but I actually don't.
THI. Barney sucks and the minute he starts getting all Theriot about it he's going to get both barrels from me.
In addition to not having a particular problem with Dempster, though, I'm not nearly as down on Samardzija as most, either. What can I tell you? I guess I'm just a warm-hearted kind of bloke.
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2012, 10:26:41 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 29, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 29, 2012, 04:57:04 PM
Quote from: Slaky on March 29, 2012, 04:09:28 PM
Seems like everyone hates Dempster but I actually don't.
He likes to do impressions and that outweighs being an outstanding starter for 3 of the last 4 years. It's simple math.
Good point. Let's ignore the fact that this unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery has managed to pitch the Cubs out of the playoffs in two seperate seasons because he's had a whopping three really good regular seasons.
Yay?
*rolls eyes*
Fuck him.
When was the second time he pitched the Cubs out of the playoffs?
Well, 2008 was actually the second time.
Warning: Clicking on these links could traumatize sensitive Desipiots. Please use discretion.
Remember this? (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/NYN/NYN200409250.shtml)
Make it stop! (http://www.desipio.com/?p=728)
QuoteBack to the Cubs, you can spend today making a lovely LaTroy la-effigy. The Victor Diaz homer on Saturday is the ultimate "Oh s@#$" moment of the 2004 season (we hope–let's not top it). What made the whole thing absurd is that Ryan Dempster had to walk two bums just to get LaTroy into the game. Hawkins was pitching for the sixth time in seven days and you knew something bad was going to happen. Then, Diaz hit it and didn't think he hit it out. That's even more fun.
Quote from: Brownie on March 30, 2012, 07:50:26 AM
Well, 2008 was actually the second time.
I admit I had blocked the Diaz home run from my brain entirely.
That said, I still don't have a problem with Dempster, either as a pitcher or a hacky amateur comedian.
Thanks, TJ.
And Victor Diaz is directly on LaFirestarter's head, though Dempster gets an assist. But no--the names to recall if you're looking to chronicle Dempstar's FAIL-riddled career is
not Victor Diaz so much as Eric Valent and Jason Phillips.
Eric Valent (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/valener01.shtml) and Jason Phillips. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/phillja04.shtml)
And then we let this shitbird back into our good graces and he pitches well in 2008, only to repeat the offense in the LDS. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, then fuck Ryan Dempster sideways with a CFL goalpost.
(And let's not even get started on last year's Opening Day. You guys are awfully forgiving of such big-game munsonry (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN201104010.shtml))Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 08:17:31 AM
I admit I had blocked the Diaz home run from my brain entirely.
WELL I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU.
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 08:17:31 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 30, 2012, 07:50:26 AM
Well, 2008 was actually the second time.
I admit I had blocked the Diaz home run from my brain entirely.
That said, I still don't have a problem with Dempster, either as a pitcher or a hacky amateur comedian.
If he weren't so overpaid, he'd have been eminently tradeable during the past two seasons when the Cubs needed to move people and bring back talent. But no. Every fifth day, that cock gobbler was still fucking here. Plus he's 10 & 5 and though I don't know him personally I'd bet my car that he'd block a trade because he loves it here.
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:49:49 AM
Thanks, TJ.
And Victor Diaz is directly on LaFirestarter's head, though Dempster gets an assist. But no--the names to recall if you're looking to chronicle Dempstar's FAIL-riddled career is not Victor Diaz so much as Eric Valent and Jason Phillips.
Eric Valent (//http://://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/valener01.shtml) and Jason Phillips. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/phillja04.shtml)
And then we let this shitbird back into our good graces and he pitches well in 2008, only to repeat the offense in the LDS. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, then fuck Ryan Dempster sideways with a CFL goalpost.
(And let's not even get started on last year's Opening Day. You guys are awfully forgiving of such big-game munsonry (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN201104010.shtml))
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 08:17:31 AM
I admit I had blocked the Diaz home run from my brain entirely.
WELL I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU.
After last year's Opening Day Debacle, I just
knew the Cubs were headed for a rough season.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 30, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 08:17:31 AM
Quote from: Brownie on March 30, 2012, 07:50:26 AM
Well, 2008 was actually the second time.
I admit I had blocked the Diaz home run from my brain entirely.
That said, I still don't have a problem with Dempster, either as a pitcher or a hacky amateur comedian.
If he weren't so overpaid, he'd have been eminently tradeable during the past two seasons when the Cubs needed to move people and bring back talent. But no. Every fifth day, that cock gobbler was still fucking here. Plus he's 10 & 5 and though I don't know him personally I'd bet my car that he'd block a trade because he loves it here.
That's sort of the ticket, actually. I mean I can't begrudge a guy who loves living and working in this town, but for chrissakes throw the goddamn ball over the plate when we really need you to. Pretty fucking please? And if he won't, can he at least just leave town and relieve us of our suffering (Except for Eli, Slaky, Yeti and Tonker, who are
totally gay for Dempster)?
Quote from: Slaky on March 30, 2012, 08:51:39 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:49:49 AM
Thanks, TJ.
And Victor Diaz is directly on LaFirestarter's head, though Dempster gets an assist. But no--the names to recall if you're looking to chronicle Dempstar's FAIL-riddled career is not Victor Diaz so much as Eric Valent and Jason Phillips.
Eric Valent (//http://://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/valener01.shtml) and Jason Phillips. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/phillja04.shtml)
And then we let this shitbird back into our good graces and he pitches well in 2008, only to repeat the offense in the LDS. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, then fuck Ryan Dempster sideways with a CFL goalpost.
(And let's not even get started on last year's Opening Day. You guys are awfully forgiving of such big-game munsonry (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN201104010.shtml))
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 08:17:31 AM
I admit I had blocked the Diaz home run from my brain entirely.
WELL I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU.
After last year's Opening Day Debacle, I just knew the Cubs were headed for a rough season.
Really, my point is that Opening Day--though as meaningless as the other 161 games in a 95 loss season-- is still considered a "Big Game" and that motherfucker did the exact same thing he did against the Dodgers four years earlier. Jesus--where' the hate?!?!
Seriously, not that it matters--but why isn't Garza pitching the Opener anyway? Pretty sure by every pitching metric he's better. This will probably be like the only game I ened up going to all year and I have to watch this hapless clown again?
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 30, 2012, 08:51:39 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:49:49 AM
Thanks, TJ.
And Victor Diaz is directly on LaFirestarter's head, though Dempster gets an assist. But no--the names to recall if you're looking to chronicle Dempstar's FAIL-riddled career is not Victor Diaz so much as Eric Valent and Jason Phillips.
Eric Valent (//http://://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/valener01.shtml) and Jason Phillips. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/phillja04.shtml)
And then we let this shitbird back into our good graces and he pitches well in 2008, only to repeat the offense in the LDS. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, then fuck Ryan Dempster sideways with a CFL goalpost.
(And let's not even get started on last year's Opening Day. You guys are awfully forgiving of such big-game munsonry (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN201104010.shtml))
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 08:17:31 AM
I admit I had blocked the Diaz home run from my brain entirely.
WELL I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU.
After last year's Opening Day Debacle, I just knew the Cubs were headed for a rough season.
Really, my point is that Opening Day--though as meaningless as the other 161 games in a 95 loss season-- is still considered a "Big Game" and that motherfucker did the exact same thing he did against the Dodgers four years earlier. Jesus--where' the hate?!?!
Seriously, not that it matters--but why isn't Garza pitching the Opener anyway? Pretty sure by every pitching metric he's better. This will probably be like the only game I ened up going to all year and I have to watch this hapless clown again?
He also sort of looks like Murton. In the hair area. But after reading Huey's latest rant, I hope he pitches a shutout just so Mikey has to sit there and eat a Nacho Helmet full of FYH's in the cold, dreary slop. Then I hope he gets traded immediately after. And cries.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 30, 2012, 08:59:43 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 30, 2012, 08:51:39 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:49:49 AM
Thanks, TJ.
And Victor Diaz is directly on LaFirestarter's head, though Dempster gets an assist. But no--the names to recall if you're looking to chronicle Dempstar's FAIL-riddled career is not Victor Diaz so much as Eric Valent and Jason Phillips.
Eric Valent (//http://://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/valener01.shtml) and Jason Phillips. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/phillja04.shtml)
And then we let this shitbird back into our good graces and he pitches well in 2008, only to repeat the offense in the LDS. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, then fuck Ryan Dempster sideways with a CFL goalpost.
(And let's not even get started on last year's Opening Day. You guys are awfully forgiving of such big-game munsonry (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN201104010.shtml))
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 08:17:31 AM
I admit I had blocked the Diaz home run from my brain entirely.
WELL I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU.
After last year's Opening Day Debacle, I just knew the Cubs were headed for a rough season.
Really, my point is that Opening Day--though as meaningless as the other 161 games in a 95 loss season-- is still considered a "Big Game" and that motherfucker did the exact same thing he did against the Dodgers four years earlier. Jesus--where' the hate?!?!
Seriously, not that it matters--but why isn't Garza pitching the Opener anyway? Pretty sure by every pitching metric he's better. This will probably be like the only game I ened up going to all year and I have to watch this hapless clown again?
He also sort of looks like Murton. In the hair area. But after reading Huey's latest rant, I hope he pitches a shutout just so Mikey has to sit there and eat a Nacho Helmet full of FYH's in the cold, dreary slop. Then I hope he gets traded immediately after. And cries.
I don't really have much trade value, but if you ship me to BCB I'm retiring.
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 09:01:55 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 30, 2012, 08:59:43 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on March 30, 2012, 08:51:39 AM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:49:49 AM
Thanks, TJ.
And Victor Diaz is directly on LaFirestarter's head, though Dempster gets an assist. But no--the names to recall if you're looking to chronicle Dempstar's FAIL-riddled career is not Victor Diaz so much as Eric Valent and Jason Phillips.
Eric Valent (//http://://www.baseball-reference.com/players/v/valener01.shtml) and Jason Phillips. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/p/phillja04.shtml)
And then we let this shitbird back into our good graces and he pitches well in 2008, only to repeat the offense in the LDS. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, then fuck Ryan Dempster sideways with a CFL goalpost.
(And let's not even get started on last year's Opening Day. You guys are awfully forgiving of such big-game munsonry (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN201104010.shtml))
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 08:17:31 AM
I admit I had blocked the Diaz home run from my brain entirely.
WELL I'M HERE TO REMIND YOU.
After last year's Opening Day Debacle, I just knew the Cubs were headed for a rough season.
Really, my point is that Opening Day--though as meaningless as the other 161 games in a 95 loss season-- is still considered a "Big Game" and that motherfucker did the exact same thing he did against the Dodgers four years earlier. Jesus--where' the hate?!?!
Seriously, not that it matters--but why isn't Garza pitching the Opener anyway? Pretty sure by every pitching metric he's better. This will probably be like the only game I ened up going to all year and I have to watch this hapless clown again?
He also sort of looks like Murton. In the hair area. But after reading Huey's latest rant, I hope he pitches a shutout just so Mikey has to sit there and eat a Nacho Helmet full of FYH's in the cold, dreary slop. Then I hope he gets traded immediately after. And cries.
I don't really have much trade value, but if you ship me to BCB I'm retiring.
You're the long awaited player to be named later in the Tonker to NSBB deal.
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:54:22 AM
I mean I can't begrudge a guy who loves living and working in this town, but for chrissakes throw the goddamn ball over the plate when we really need you to. Pretty fucking please?
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Really, my point is that Opening Day--though as meaningless as the other 161 games in a 95 loss season-- is still considered a "Big Game" and that motherfucker did the exact same thing he did against the Dodgers four years earlier. Jesus--where' the hate?!?!
That's some A-plus Huey right there, guys.
Fro days "When it matters the most"
Huey says "When we really need you to"
Has anyone seen the two of them together?
My Dempster dislike makes me feel like a common Chuck. He's a good pitcher on my favorite team. He was just overpaid and annoying in the face.
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:54:22 AM
Except for Eli, Slaky, Yeti and Tonker, who are totally gay for Dempster)?
If I win the MegaMillions jackpot, I'm buying the Royals and forcing Dayton Moore to trade for Dempster so he can move to Kansas City and we can start an improv duo together.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on March 30, 2012, 09:30:56 AM
Fro days "When it matters the most"
Huey says "When we really need you to"
Has anyone seen the two of them together?
You really want to go there, Tubby McMapletree?
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on March 30, 2012, 09:30:56 AM
Fro days "When it matters the most"
Huey says "When we really need you to"
Has anyone seen the two of them together?
You really want to go there, Tubby McMapletree?
Well, didn't I already?
I don't get why we should hate Dempster for being overpaid instead of the guy who offered him the contract.
What was he supposed to say?
"Oh, no. You can't pay me that much. There's no way I'm going to be worth $14 mil in 2012. When you want to sign me for much less than that, I'll believe you're serious about keeping me around."
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on March 30, 2012, 09:50:54 AM
I don't get why we should hate Dempster for being overpaid instead of the guy who offered him the contract.
What was he supposed to say?
"Oh, no. You can't pay me that much. There's no way I'm going to be worth $14 mil in 2012. When you want to sign me for much less than that, I'll believe you're serious about keeping me around."
I didn't say I didn't hate the guy who offered him the contract too. But the guy who did that isn't around anymore.
I will not rest until all of you hate Ryan Dempster from the depths of your ever-loving souls. Get on it!
Not only do I not hate Ryan Dempster, I don't even think he's overpaid.
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
Not only do I not hate Ryan Dempster, I don't even think he's overpaid.
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
Maybe if Ryan had decked Barrett...
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
It seems like people have an issue with Dempster because he's had some failures in big situations. Zambrano's excellent career postseason line and history of strong Opening Day starts are probably what's earning him some leeway.
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
It seems like people have an issue with Dempster because he's had some failures in big situations. Zambrano's excellent career postseason line and history of strong Opening Day starts are probably what's earning him some leeway.
Oh snap.
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
It seems like people have an issue with Dempster because he's had some failures in big situations. Zambrano's excellent career postseason line and history of strong Opening Day starts are probably what's earning him some leeway.
Oh snap.
BURN
I'm counting on Huey's rage-fueled diatrabes to get me through this season. You can put me on Team Dempster.
Quote from: CT III on March 30, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
It seems like people have an issue with Dempster because he's had some failures in big situations. Zambrano's excellent career postseason line and history of strong Opening Day starts are probably what's earning him some leeway.
Oh snap.
BURN
I'm counting on Huey's rage-fueled diatrabes to get me through this season. You can put me on Team Dempster.
When does All Star voting start?
Quote from: CT III on March 30, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
It seems like people have an issue with Dempster because he's had some failures in big situations. Zambrano's excellent career postseason line and history of strong Opening Day starts are probably what's earning him some leeway.
Oh snap.
BURN
I'm counting on Huey's rage-fueled diatrabes to get me through this season. You can put me on Team Dempster.
Snork AND Dempster? For shame.
Quote from: Bort on March 30, 2012, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: CT III on March 30, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
It seems like people have an issue with Dempster because he's had some failures in big situations. Zambrano's excellent career postseason line and history of strong Opening Day starts are probably what's earning him some leeway.
Oh snap.
BURN
I'm counting on Huey's rage-fueled diatrabes to get me through this season. You can put me on Team Dempster.
Snork AND Dempster? For shame.
Oh, go back to Wofford.
Quote from: CT III on March 30, 2012, 02:19:49 PM
Quote from: Bort on March 30, 2012, 02:11:33 PM
Quote from: CT III on March 30, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
It seems like people have an issue with Dempster because he's had some failures in big situations. Zambrano's excellent career postseason line and history of strong Opening Day starts are probably what's earning him some leeway.
Oh snap.
BURN
I'm counting on Huey's rage-fueled diatrabes to get me through this season. You can put me on Team Dempster.
Snork AND Dempster? For shame.
Oh, go back to Wofford.
He's trying, but his glasses got all fogged up and he ended up in Evanston at the Church of Santeria.
Put me squarely in the 'meh' camp on Dempster. I just can't give a shit about him this year.
Blake Dewitt, on the other hand, can get fucked.
Quote from: CT III on March 30, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
It seems like people have an issue with Dempster because he's had some failures in big situations. Zambrano's excellent career postseason line and history of strong Opening Day starts are probably what's earning him some leeway.
Oh snap.
BURN
I'm counting on Huey's rage-fueled diatrabes to get me through this season. You can put me on Team Dempster.
Wait a minute. Diabetes is no laughing matter. I don't think that it is right to... Oh...nevermind.
Quote from: CBStew on March 30, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
Quote from: CT III on March 30, 2012, 12:53:48 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on March 30, 2012, 12:24:15 PM
Quote from: PenPho on March 30, 2012, 12:01:19 PM
It boggles my mind that some of the people who would have taken a bullet for Zambrano are first in line to shoot one at Dempster.
It seems like people have an issue with Dempster because he's had some failures in big situations. Zambrano's excellent career postseason line and history of strong Opening Day starts are probably what's earning him some leeway.
Oh snap.
BURN
I'm counting on Huey's rage-fueled diatrabes to get me through this season. You can put me on Team Dempster.
Wait a minute. Diabetes is no laughing matter. I don't think that it is right to... Oh...nevermind.
"This Old Cub" taught me it's okay to make fun of diabetics as long it's in the context of attempting to garner sympathy for their Hall of Fame candidacy.
Quote from: Oleg on March 30, 2012, 03:29:14 PM
Put me squarely in the 'meh' camp on Dempster. I just can't give a shit about him this year.
With so much potentially entertaining spittle-rich pankrage on the line, can you really afford to stay on the sidelines?
Hop on the Dempster wagon, little man. Enjoy the ride.
Maybe you all are Dempster homosexuals.
I feel like I'm getting ganged up on here. Where the fuck is Kerm when you need him?
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
Maybe you all are Dempster homosexuals.
I feel like I'm getting ganged up on here. Where the fuck is Kerm when you need him?
The disappearance of Pujols from the NL Central should minimize 3 or 4 games of Dempster hate.
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
Maybe you all are Dempster homosexuals.
I feel like I'm getting ganged up on here. Where the fuck is Kerm when you need him?
Hey, I said I still hated Dempster, you plodding spudsucker.
Of course, I still reserve the right to laugh at your spluttering Dempster hate.
I find Dempster to be really annoying. Not sure what side that falls on.
Quote from: Oleg on March 30, 2012, 03:29:14 PM
Put me squarely in the 'meh' camp on Dempster. I just can't give a shit about him this year.
Blake Dewitt, on the other hand, can get fucked.
You can't count on anything or anyone anymore. The Cubs cut Dewitt a few months ago and now here he is.
Quote from: Bort on March 30, 2012, 08:40:13 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
Maybe you all are Dempster homosexuals.
I feel like I'm getting ganged up on here. Where the fuck is Kerm when you need him?
Hey, I said I still hated Dempster, you plodding spudsucker.
Of course, I still reserve the right to laugh at your spluttering Dempster hate.
I don't care how much you stay away from the ShoutBox these days, you're no Kerm.
My hate is still with Ryan Dempster.
I'm sure it will continue to grow once he gives up his opening day grand slam.
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 31, 2012, 10:08:56 AM
My hate is still with Ryan Dempster.
I'm sure it will continue to grow once he gives up his opening day grand slam to Mark DeRosa.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 31, 2012, 11:13:01 AM
Quote from: Waco Kid on March 31, 2012, 10:08:56 AM
My hate is still with Ryan Dempster.
I'm sure it will continue to grow once he gives up his opening day grand slam to Mark DeRosa.
Epstink is terrible.
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
Maybe you all are Dempster homosexuals.
I feel like I'm getting ganged up on here. Where the fuck is Kerm when you need him?
10 Ks for Dempster today through 7 and 2/3rds.
FYPANK!!!
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 05, 2012, 03:17:48 PM
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
Maybe you all are Dempster homosexuals.
I feel like I'm getting ganged up on here. Where the fuck is Kerm when you need him?
10 Ks for Dempster today through 7 and 2/3rds.
FYPANK!!!
Not bad for a unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery.
Tonight we get to see The Volstad Act. I hope that we don't feel that it should have been prohibited. (Yes. I know. Needs work.)
Quote from: CBStew on April 09, 2012, 01:58:47 PM
Tonight we get to see The Volstad Act. I hope that we don't feel that it should have been prohibited. (Yes. I know. Needs work.)
A prohibition joke?
TOO SOON!!
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 09, 2012, 02:12:13 PM
Quote from: CBStew on April 09, 2012, 01:58:47 PM
Tonight we get to see The Volstad Act. I hope that we don't feel that it should have been prohibited. (Yes. I know. Needs work.)
A prohibition joke?
TOO SOON!!
Chewrk?
- K. Wood relieved J. Russell
- N. Morgan struck out swinging
- R. Weeks struck out swinging
- A. Ramirez struck out swinging
- End of Inning (0 Runs, 0 Hits, 0 Errors)
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=20564287&topic_id&c_id=mlb&tcid=fb_video_20564287
Internet Chuck dropping truth bombs (sic)
https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465 (https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465)
Quote from: Slaky on April 15, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Internet Chuck dropping truth bombs (sic)
https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465 (https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465)
Even by Internet Chuck's standards, that's plumbing new depths of wrong.
Quote from: Tonker on April 15, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 15, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Internet Chuck dropping truth bombs (sic)
https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465 (https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465)
Even by Internet Chuck's standards, that's plumbing new depths of wrong.
STALIN CASTRO!!!
Quote from: Tonker on April 15, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 15, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Internet Chuck dropping truth bombs (sic)
https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465 (https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465)
Even by Internet Chuck's standards, that's plumbing new depths of wrong.
If you think Theo and Jed aren't increasingly likely to trade this guy, you haven't been paying attention.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 15, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: Tonker on April 15, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 15, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Internet Chuck dropping truth bombs (sic)
https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465 (https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465)
Even by Internet Chuck's standards, that's plumbing new depths of wrong.
If you think Theo and Jed aren't increasingly likely to trade this guy, you haven't been paying attention.
DING!
Quote from: Slaky on April 15, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Internet Chuck dropping truth bombs (sic)
https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465 (https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465)
This doesn't make sense in any conceivable or inconceivable way.
Last week, Chuck and I were guests of thehawk at Tuesday's Brewers win over the Cubs. On the way to Wrigley Field, Chuck suggested that Epstein and Hoyer have not decided that they're going to build the team around Starlin Castro like so many people have assumed. I agree. If Castro can fetch a nice haul on the trade market and Hoyer/Epstein feel that his ceiling is only so high, it wouldn't be the worst thing either have done.
This suggestion wasn't that Epstein/Hoyer are working the phones right now to see what they can get for Castro RIGHT NOW, but that if in the offseason this year or next year (or a trade deadline), we could be saying goodbye to Castro.
Chuck has not updated his blog since Jay Cutler's wrist was intact and the Bears were destined for the playoffs. Perhaps a Grand Reopening of Ivy Chat is due so Chuck's theories that aren't half-baked can be explained more thoroughly than one can in 140 characters.
Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2012, 10:42:39 PM
Last week, Chuck and I were guests of thehawk at Tuesday's Brewers win over the Cubs. On the way to Wrigley Field, Chuck suggested that Epstein and Hoyer have not decided that they're going to build the team around Starlin Castro like so many people have assumed. I agree. If Castro can fetch a nice haul on the trade market and Hoyer/Epstein feel that his ceiling is only so high, it wouldn't be the worst thing either have done.
This suggestion wasn't that Epstein/Hoyer are working the phones right now to see what they can get for Castro RIGHT NOW, but that if in the offseason this year or next year (or a trade deadline), we could be saying goodbye to Castro.
Chuck has not updated his blog since Jay Cutler's wrist was intact and the Bears were destined for the playoffs. Perhaps a Grand Reopening of Ivy Chat is due so Chuck's theories that aren't half-baked can be explained more thoroughly than one can in 140 characters.
Nah, we're good.
Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2012, 10:42:39 PM
Chuck has not updated his blog since Jay Cutler's wrist was intact and the Bears were destined for the playoffs. Perhaps a Grand Reopening of Ivy Chat is due so Chuck's theories that aren't half-baked can be explained more thoroughly than one can in 140 characters.
Talk about your classic wheat-vs-chaff situation.
Johnson
DeWitt
Castro
Baker
Stewart
Mather
Soto
Byrd
Maholm
These scrubs scored three runs last night - one of which was on a wild pitch, and one on a groundout. Byrd got on base once - on an error - and then promptly got picked off first. Maholm is now 2 for 2 in giving up six runs over four innings. So, my question is, when was the last time the Cubs - top to bottom - had such a fucking hopeless lineup so early in a season?
I'm going for this April 2006 game (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200604290.shtml), where the Cubs started with:
Pierre
Cedeno
Walker
Ramirez
Murton
Jones
Hairston
Blanco
Rusch
Mabry, Neifi and Bynum also got into the game; Rusch, Aardsma, Ohman and Brown Spot Bob gave up sixteen runs between them; and Doug F. Davis gave up just five hits and one run over 6.1 innings for the Brewers win.
Man, fuck the Cubs.
Quote from: Tonker on April 16, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
Man, fuck the Cubs.
Easy, killer. Long haul. We'll get through this and it'll be glorious. Try following the Hawks for a little while.
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 05:34:58 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 16, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
Man, fuck the Cubs.
Easy, killer. Long haul. We'll get through this and it'll be glorious. Try following the Hawks for a little while.
Yeah, I take your point, Mike. To be fair, I've already gone on record this year as knowing the Cubs are going to be terrible, and being okay with that. There's a difference, though, between believing in what Epstink and Hoyer are doing now, and being fine with it, and being really fucking pissed off with the mess the Trib and Hendry got the Cubs into in order for it to be necessary at all. Know what I mean?
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 05:34:58 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 16, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
Man, fuck the Cubs.
Easy, killer. Long haul. We'll get through this and it'll be glorious. Try following the Hawks for a little while.
Certainly not the shitty Bulls.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on April 16, 2012, 07:36:03 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 05:34:58 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 16, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
Man, fuck the Cubs.
Easy, killer. Long haul. We'll get through this and it'll be glorious. Try following the Hawks for a little while.
Certainly not the shitty Bulls.
Last night I tried watching the game against the Pistons, because it was supposedly on WGN, but apparently it wasn't on WGN AMERICA, just local WGN, because they insisted that I watch eight year old episodes of one of the shitty Law and Orders. WGN sucks.
Quote from: Tonker on April 16, 2012, 06:13:21 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 05:34:58 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 16, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
Man, fuck the Cubs.
Easy, killer. Long haul. We'll get through this and it'll be glorious. Try following the Hawks for a little while.
Yeah, I take your point, Mike. To be fair, I've already gone on record this year as knowing the Cubs are going to be terrible, and being okay with that. There's a difference, though, between believing in what Epstink and Hoyer are doing now, and being fine with it, and being really fucking pissed off with the mess the Trib and Hendry got the Cubs into in order for it to be necessary at all. Know what I mean?
Indeed I do. And don't get me wrong--there are plenty of players that already disgust me (Paul Maholm, for one, can poag mahone), but a resolute faith in this regime is guiding me through for the long haul.
Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2012, 10:42:39 PM
If Castro can fetch a nice haul on the trade market
But what sort of haul is he going to fetch that makes a trade worth it? Unless they're trading him for Bryce Harper or an already-established MLB superstar still in his prime, it doesn't make any sense. Trading a 22-year-old stud with several years of affordable team control remaining for prospects is -- as you put it -- half-baked. If that.
Honestly, I'm struggling to think of more than a handful of guys in all of baseball with more value than Starlin Castro. The only thing accomplished by trading him is setting back the rebuilding process another 2-3 years.
Quote from: Tonker on April 16, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
Johnson
DeWitt
Castro
Baker
Stewart
Mather
Soto
Byrd
Maholm
These scrubs scored three runs last night - one of which was on a wild pitch, and one on a groundout. Byrd got on base once - on an error - and then promptly got picked off first. Maholm is now 2 for 2 in giving up six runs over four innings. So, my question is, when was the last time the Cubs - top to bottom - had such a fucking hopeless lineup so early in a season?
I'm going for this April 2006 game (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200604290.shtml), where the Cubs started with:
Pierre
Cedeno
Walker
Ramirez
Murton
Jones
Hairston
Blanco
Rusch
Mabry, Neifi and Bynum also got into the game; Rusch, Aardsma, Ohman and Brown Spot Bob gave up sixteen runs between them; and Doug F. Davis gave up just five hits and one run over 6.1 innings for the Brewers win.
Man, fuck the Cubs.
I went to yesterdays fun. It was not fun to watch. The Busch scoreboard shows the lineup with only batting averages. Only Stewart and Castro were above .250. It was one of the shittiest lineups I have seen
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 08:34:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2012, 10:42:39 PM
If Castro can fetch a nice haul on the trade market
But what sort of haul is he going to fetch that makes a trade worth it? Unless they're trading him for Bryce Harper or an already-established MLB superstar still in his prime, it doesn't make any sense. Trading a 22-year-old stud with several years of affordable team control remaining for prospects is -- as you put it -- half-baked. If that.
Honestly, I'm struggling to think of more than a handful of guys in all of baseball with more value than Starlin Castro. The only thing accomplished by trading him is setting back the rebuilding process another 2-3 years.
According to Steve Stone on the Score this morning, David Eckstein is the kind of shortstop that wins championships because he makes all the simple plays. So maybe the Cubs should just sign him and then trade Castro for other winner types. Ask Steve Stone who the other winners are. He seems to know.
Quote from: Tonker on April 16, 2012, 02:33:00 AM
Johnson
DeWitt
Castro
Baker
Stewart
Mather
Soto
Byrd
Maholm
These scrubs scored three runs last night - one of which was on a wild pitch, and one on a groundout. Byrd got on base once - on an error - and then promptly got picked off first. Maholm is now 2 for 2 in giving up six runs over four innings. So, my question is, when was the last time the Cubs - top to bottom - had such a fucking hopeless lineup so early in a season?
I'm going for this April 2006 game (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN200604290.shtml), where the Cubs started with:
Pierre
Cedeno
Walker
Ramirez
Murton
Jones
Hairston
Blanco
Rusch
Mabry, Neifi and Bynum also got into the game; Rusch, Aardsma, Ohman and Brown Spot Bob gave up sixteen runs between them; and Doug F. Davis gave up just five hits and one run over 6.1 innings for the Brewers win.
Man, fuck the Cubs.
Hmm, I think we're on the right track, Tonk, but that 2006 lineup still had Aramis Ramirez, a much bigger run producer than Starlin Castro is at this point. I think we're going to have to go further back in the wayback machine...
How about April 18, 1981 at Veterans Stadium? Joey Amalfitano sent this group (season ending avg/obp/ops in parenthesis) up against Steve Carlton:
1) Ivan Dejesus, ss (.194/.276/.509)
2) Bill Buckner, 1b (.311/.349/.829)
3) Jerry Morales, cf (.286/.343/.682)
4) Steve Henderson, lf (.293/.382/.793)
5) Hector Cruz, rf (.229/.331/.799)
6) Ken Reitz, 3b (.215/.261/.541)
7) Barry Foote, c (.000/.115/.115)
8) Mike Tyson, 2b (.185/.248/.519)
9) Mike Krukow, p (.180/.180/.400)
Of course, this team also scored 3 runs. Morales singled, Henderson walked, Hector Cruz doubled, Reitz and Foote each hit sac flies, and the Cubs took a 3-2 lead on Steve Carlton. Carlton, however, went 10 innings against this sad sack group, a Steve Henderson error helped the Phillies tie it, and Manny Trillo homered off Lee Smith in the 10th to win it.
That was a fucking miserable team. Thank God for the strike.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 08:34:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2012, 10:42:39 PM
If Castro can fetch a nice haul on the trade market
But what sort of haul is he going to fetch that makes a trade worth it? Unless they're trading him for Bryce Harper or an already-established MLB superstar still in his prime, it doesn't make any sense. Trading a 22-year-old stud with several years of affordable team control remaining for prospects is -- as you put it -- half-baked. If that.
Honestly, I'm struggling to think of more than a handful of guys in all of baseball with more value than Starlin Castro. The only thing accomplished by trading him is setting back the rebuilding process another 2-3 years.
So there's one aspect of wrongness to Chuck's statement. The other is the theory that Theo and Jed have somehow learned something in the last two weeks that they didn't previously know about Starlin. If you think, as I'm guessing most of us do - including Chuck - that Epstein and Hoyer know their ass from their elbow and have a long-term plan and understand how things like sample size work, why is this trade "increasingly likely?" Was Epstein previously uncertain of how he felt about Castro, but now that he's seen him make FOUR ERRORS in TEN GAMES, he wants to trade him more now than he did 2 weeks ago?
What the fuck, Chuck?
Quote from: Slaky on April 16, 2012, 08:57:19 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 08:34:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2012, 10:42:39 PM
If Castro can fetch a nice haul on the trade market
But what sort of haul is he going to fetch that makes a trade worth it? Unless they're trading him for Bryce Harper or an already-established MLB superstar still in his prime, it doesn't make any sense. Trading a 22-year-old stud with several years of affordable team control remaining for prospects is -- as you put it -- half-baked. If that.
Honestly, I'm struggling to think of more than a handful of guys in all of baseball with more value than Starlin Castro. The only thing accomplished by trading him is setting back the rebuilding process another 2-3 years.
According to Steve Stone on the Score this morning, David Eckstein is the kind of shortstop that wins championships because he makes all the simple plays. So maybe the Cubs should just sign him and then trade Castro for other winner types. Ask Steve Stone who the other winners are. He seems to know.
Lemke, Epstein and Freese right to left in 2013.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 08:34:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2012, 10:42:39 PM
If Castro can fetch a nice haul on the trade market
But what sort of haul is he going to fetch that makes a trade worth it? Unless they're trading him for Bryce Harper or an already-established MLB superstar still in his prime, it doesn't make any sense. Trading a 22-year-old stud with several years of affordable team control remaining for prospects is -- as you put it -- half-baked. If that.
Honestly, I'm struggling to think of more than a handful of guys in all of baseball with more value than Starlin Castro. The only thing accomplished by trading him is setting back the rebuilding process another 2-3 years.
Who says they'd trade him for a bunch of affordable prospects? Chuck suggesting that Epstein/Hoyer would listen to offers for Castro isn't half-baked.
If you could trade Castro for a starting pitcher and a starting everyday player, both on the right side of 30, both who are All-Star caliber, wouldn't you at least listen?
Let me go a bit further. Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error. But (Real Life) Chuck's premise isn't that far off.
1. I don't think Epstein has decided that he's got to build around Starlin Castro.
2. Epstein has generally managed a better shortstop and he traded him away, getting the immortal Orlando Cabrera and Doug Mientkiewicz for him.
3. Perhaps Epstein knew said better shortstop was done, and snookered a guy who was fueled by apple and cheese danishes. But... said better shortstop was healthy, coming off one of the best seasons of his career and his team was closer to the World Series than their runner-up counterpart from the other league. And Epstein had just about traded said better shortstop for a Venezuelan right fielder with a suspect knee.
4. Castro is a better than average hitter, and the best hitter on the Cubs. But defensively, he's been below average in range factor and fielding percentage each season.
5. Castro, as a good-hitting shortstop, might be overvalued on the trade market.
6. If Epstein traded Castro and replaced him with someone of the caliber of Orlando Cabrera (or worse), yet the Cubs still won the World Series, would you continue to bitch about it?
Quote from: Slaky on April 16, 2012, 08:57:19 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 08:34:56 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 15, 2012, 10:42:39 PM
If Castro can fetch a nice haul on the trade market
But what sort of haul is he going to fetch that makes a trade worth it? Unless they're trading him for Bryce Harper or an already-established MLB superstar still in his prime, it doesn't make any sense. Trading a 22-year-old stud with several years of affordable team control remaining for prospects is -- as you put it -- half-baked. If that.
Honestly, I'm struggling to think of more than a handful of guys in all of baseball with more value than Starlin Castro. The only thing accomplished by trading him is setting back the rebuilding process another 2-3 years.
According to Steve Stone on the Score this morning, David Eckstein is the kind of shortstop that wins championships because he makes all the simple plays. So maybe the Cubs should just sign him and then trade Castro for other winner types. Ask Steve Stone who the other winners are. He seems to know.
Cesar Izturis?
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Let me go a bit further. Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error. But (Real Life) Chuck's premise isn't that far off.
There's your wheat to your chaff.
Maybe Chuck can relaunch ChuckToChuck.com with Real Life Chuck at the editorial helm.
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Let me go a bit further. Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error. But (Real Life) Chuck's premise isn't that far off.
1. I don't think Epstein has decided that he's got to build around Starlin Castro.
2. Epstein has generally managed a better shortstop and he traded him away, getting the immortal Orlando Cabrera and Doug Mientkiewicz for him.
3. Perhaps Epstein knew said better shortstop was done, and snookered a guy who was fueled by apple and cheese danishes. But... said better shortstop was healthy, coming off one of the best seasons of his career and his team was closer to the World Series than their runner-up counterpart from the other league. And Epstein had just about traded said better shortstop for a Venezuelan right fielder with a suspect knee.
4. Castro is a better than average hitter, and the best hitter on the Cubs. But defensively, he's been below average in range factor and fielding percentage each season.
5. Castro, as a good-hitting shortstop, might be overvalued on the trade market.
6. If Epstein traded Castro and replaced him with someone of the caliber of Orlando Cabrera (or worse), yet the Cubs still won the World Series, would you continue to bitch about it?
We get it, you sat in the front row with Chuck at a game so you feel the need to be as retarded as him for a little bit.
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
6. If Epstein traded Castro and replaced him with someone of the caliber of Orlando Cabrera (or worse), yet the Cubs still won the World Series, would you continue to bitch about it?
Continue to bitch about it?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 16, 2012, 09:36:26 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
6. If Epstein traded Castro and replaced him with someone of the caliber of Orlando Cabrera (or worse), yet the Cubs still won the World Series, would you continue to bitch about it?
Continue to bitch about it?
Yes, because the day Starlin Castro gets dealt, people will bitch and moan about how shitty a trade it is and how Epstein and Hoyer should be fired and replaced with a real baseball guy like Ed Lynch or someone like that.
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:07:34 AM
If you could trade Castro for a starting pitcher and a starting everyday player, both on the right side of 30, both who are All-Star caliber, wouldn't you at least listen?
Sure. I'll be happy with a trade of Castro and Dan Vogelbach for Evan Longoria and David Price.
Maybe Chuck's idea isn't so dumb!
I'd also accept a trade of Starlin Castro and Tony Campana for Justin Upton and Justin Verlander.
Granted, that would require a third team but I'm sure Theo and Jed can make it happen.
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error.
That's a supposition that others have made and I can see how the limitations of the 140 characters could cause that. To be clear, I would be pissed if they traded Castro for scraps.
But given how wretched this team is, how void the farm system is, how the clamor to get better quicker and the empty seats is going to lay on Tom, and Castro being at peak value right now, a trade is becoming more and more likely. That, and Castro's below average defense and low walk rate suggest that Theo might undervalue him compared to the market.
But what I'm really not looking forward to is, should the move be made, the rending of garments and ubiquitous sound of Kaddish neing sung that will be heard from all corners of Cubdom.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 16, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error.
That's a supposition that others have made and I can see how the limitations of the 140 characters could cause that. To be clear, I would be pissed if they traded Castro for scraps.
But given how wretched this team is, how void the farm system is, how the clamor to get better quicker and the empty seats is going to lay on Tom, and Castro being at peak value right now, a trade is becoming more and more likely. That, and Castro's below average defense and low walk rate suggest that Theo might undervalue him compared to the market.
But what I'm really not looking forward to is, should the move be made, the rending of garments and ubiquitous sound of Kaddish neing sung that will be heard from all corners of Cubdom.
Any chance Starlin is
overvalued by the rest of the league?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 16, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error.
That's a supposition that others have made and I can see how the limitations of the 140 characters could cause that. To be clear, I would be pissed if they traded Castro for scraps.
But given how wretched this team is, how void the farm system is, how the clamor to get better quicker and the empty seats is going to lay on Tom, and Castro being at peak value right now, a trade is becoming more and more likely. That, and Castro's below average defense and low walk rate suggest that Theo might undervalue him compared to the market.
But what I'm really not looking forward to is, should the move be made, the rending of garments and ubiquitous sound of Kaddish neing sung that will be heard from all corners of Cubdom.
Who is clamoring for the Cubs to get better quicker? You act like something has changed over the last two weeks - that Ricketts and/or the fans have been given new information that has them re-evaluating their previous Cubs worldview. Is Ricketts surprised by the attendance at the first 6 games? Are Cubs fans shocked that they're shitty? Are attendance projections way off of Tom's expectations? Are their actual people out there who were planning on buying a six-game package, but they found out that Paul Maholm and Chris Volstad are probably shitty and changed their mind?
You act like there's this rising tide of...something...that no one can see coming
except for you.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 16, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error.
That's a supposition that others have made and I can see how the limitations of the 140 characters could cause that. To be clear, I would be pissed if they traded Castro for scraps.
But given how wretched this team is, how void the farm system is, how the clamor to get better quicker and the empty seats is going to lay on Tom, and Castro being at peak value right now, a trade is becoming more and more likely. That, and Castro's below average defense and low walk rate suggest that Theo might undervalue him compared to the market.
But what I'm really not looking forward to is, should the move be made, the rending of garments and ubiquitous sound of Kaddish neing sung that will be heard from all corners of Cubdom.
We're at Peak Castro, folks.
Apparently Chuck is some sort of fucking futurereader.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 16, 2012, 10:04:11 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 16, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error.
That's a supposition that others have made and I can see how the limitations of the 140 characters could cause that. To be clear, I would be pissed if they traded Castro for scraps.
But given how wretched this team is, how void the farm system is, how the clamor to get better quicker and the empty seats is going to lay on Tom, and Castro being at peak value right now, a trade is becoming more and more likely. That, and Castro's below average defense and low walk rate suggest that Theo might undervalue him compared to the market.
But what I'm really not looking forward to is, should the move be made, the rending of garments and ubiquitous sound of Kaddish neing sung that will be heard from all corners of Cubdom.
We're at Peak Castro, folks.
Apparently Chuck is some sort of fucking futurereader.
No shit. He's barely 22 and is at peak value. Everyone think about this.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 10:07:47 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 16, 2012, 10:04:11 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 16, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error.
That's a supposition that others have made and I can see how the limitations of the 140 characters could cause that. To be clear, I would be pissed if they traded Castro for scraps.
But given how wretched this team is, how void the farm system is, how the clamor to get better quicker and the empty seats is going to lay on Tom, and Castro being at peak value right now, a trade is becoming more and more likely. That, and Castro's below average defense and low walk rate suggest that Theo might undervalue him compared to the market.
But what I'm really not looking forward to is, should the move be made, the rending of garments and ubiquitous sound of Kaddish neing sung that will be heard from all corners of Cubdom.
We're at Peak Castro, folks.
Apparently Chuck is some sort of fucking futurereader.
No shit. He's barely 22 and is at peak value. Everyone think about this.
My god, Desipio just got interesting for the first time in a while.
Quote from: Slaky on April 16, 2012, 10:12:46 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 10:07:47 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 16, 2012, 10:04:11 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 16, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error.
That's a supposition that others have made and I can see how the limitations of the 140 characters could cause that. To be clear, I would be pissed if they traded Castro for scraps.
But given how wretched this team is, how void the farm system is, how the clamor to get better quicker and the empty seats is going to lay on Tom, and Castro being at peak value right now, a trade is becoming more and more likely. That, and Castro's below average defense and low walk rate suggest that Theo might undervalue him compared to the market.
But what I'm really not looking forward to is, should the move be made, the rending of garments and ubiquitous sound of Kaddish neing sung that will be heard from all corners of Cubdom.
We're at Peak Castro, folks.
Apparently Chuck is some sort of fucking futurereader.
No shit. He's barely 22 and is at peak value. Everyone think about this.
My god, Desipio just got interesting for the first time in a while.
It's because, deep down, as infuriating as he is, this collective NEEDs Chuck. 10.17(c) is one of the foundational laws of our universe. Without it, what would unite us?
Quote from: R-V on April 16, 2012, 10:00:51 AM
Who is clamoring for the Cubs to get better quicker?
A lot of idiots.
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You act like something has changed over the last two weeks - that Ricketts and/or the fans have been given new information that has them re-evaluating their previous Cubs worldview.
The season started.
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Is Ricketts surprised by the attendance at the first 6 games?
I don't know. Ask him.
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Are Cubs fans shocked that they're shitty?
Many are.
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You act like there's this rising tide of...something...that no one can see coming except for you.
When did I say I was the only one who could see this coming?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_yhbOEDI3vqc/SoWL1rgbsYI/AAAAAAAAAMI/-AdukoegKSk/s400/Strawman+%28light%29.jpg)
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 09:23:35 AM
Let me go a bit further. Chuck's Twitter post is wrong-headed in that it suggests Epstein will trade Castro for Adam Kennedy and a prospect if he makes another error. But (Real Life) Chuck's premise isn't that far off.
1. I don't think Epstein has decided that he's got to build around Starlin Castro.
2. Epstein has generally managed a better shortstop and he traded him away, getting the immortal Orlando Cabrera and Doug Mientkiewicz for him.
3. Perhaps Epstein knew said better shortstop was done, and snookered a guy who was fueled by apple and cheese danishes. But... said better shortstop was healthy, coming off one of the best seasons of his career and his team was closer to the World Series than their runner-up counterpart from the other league. And Epstein had just about traded said better shortstop for a Venezuelan right fielder with a suspect knee.
4. Castro is a better than average hitter, and the best hitter on the Cubs. But defensively, he's been below average in range factor and fielding percentage each season.
5. Castro, as a good-hitting shortstop, might be overvalued on the trade market.
6. If Epstein traded Castro and replaced him with someone of the caliber of Orlando Cabrera (or worse), yet the Cubs still won the World Series, would you continue to bitch about it?
You think he raped that poor woman, don't you?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 16, 2012, 10:15:21 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 16, 2012, 10:00:51 AM
Who is clamoring for the Cubs to get better quicker?
A lot of idiots.
And if Epstein has proven one thing in his career, it's that he allows his on-field product to be shaped by the clamor of local idiots.
At a base level, I don't see why a team that believes it can realistically compete in two to three years would trade an asset worth as much as Castro is when he'd be 25 or 26 (and probably a better player at that point) for two to three players that may or may not be something.
If anything, with Baez coming up behind Castro, I can see Castro being moved to third rather than remain at short. With Rizzo at first, all you'd need would be a second baseman to complete a young infield.
However, my frustration is predicated on this supposition that Chuck somehow knows something more than what we do with regards to Starlin's future with the team. To be clear, none of this is predicated on anything you've heard, right Chuck?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 10:21:55 AM
At a base level, I don't see why a team that believes it can realistically compete in two to three years would trade an asset worth as much as Castro is when he'd be 25 or 26 (and probably a better player at that point) for two to three players that may or may not be something.
Not if he peaked at age 21.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 10:21:55 AM
However, my frustration is predicated on this supposition that Chuck somehow knows something more than what we do with regards to Starlin's future with the team. To be clear, none of this is predicated on anything you've heard, right Chuck?
Are you serious, Gil?
I hope Castro does become less bad-throwy...it'd be awesome if he was a great shortstop and not a really good-hitting second baseman. I suspect his arm is fine and he just needs to mature mentally, but now would be a good time to start is all. Thank you.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 10:21:55 AM
At a base level In the abstract, I don't see why a team that believes it can realistically compete in two to three years would trade an asset worth as much as Castro is when he'd be 25 or 26 (and probably a better player at that point) for two to three players that may or may not be something.
Speak it.
So the argument pits Chuck, on one side, suggesting a Castro trade to the Cardinals for Tyler Greene and cash should happen before the COB today, vs. everyone else, who would not listen to any offers involving Starlin Castro unless it was Longoria and Price or Upton and Verlander.
Chuck already conceded that his Twitter argument was poorly worded and wrong.
I will say it again. Who are the Cubs able to trade and get multiple everyday players that can help them years into the future? Garza, probably. Soto, maybe. Marmol, if he gets it together. Byrd? Dempster? Kerry Wood? Soriano? David DeJesus? Ian Stewart? Samardzija? Rodrigo Lopez? Brian The Hair? Anthony Rizzo? Josh Vitters? The thought that Castro would be part of a blockbuster deal sometime over the next 2 years isn't inane.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 10:21:55 AM
At a base level, I don't see why a team that believes it can realistically compete in two to three years would trade an asset worth as much as Castro is when he'd be 25 or 26 (and probably a better player at that point) for two to three players that may or may not be something.
If anything, with Baez coming up behind Castro, I can see Castro being moved to third rather than remain at short. With Rizzo at first, all you'd need would be a second baseman to complete a young infield.
However, my frustration is predicated on this supposition that Chuck somehow knows something more than what we do with regards to Starlin's future with the team. To be clear, none of this is predicated on anything you've heard, right Chuck?
SKO also has a blog he'd like you to read
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 10:28:42 AM
So the argument pits Chuck, on one side, suggesting a Castro trade to the Cardinals for Tyler Greene and cash should happen before the COB today, vs. everyone else, who would not listen to any offers involving Starlin Castro unless it was Longoria and Price or Upton and Verlander.
Chuck already conceded that his Twitter argument was poorly worded and wrong.
I will say it again. Who are the Cubs able to trade and get multiple everyday players that can help them years into the future? Garza, probably. Soto, maybe. Marmol, if he gets it together. Byrd? Dempster? Kerry Wood? Soriano? David DeJesus? Ian Stewart? Samardzija? Rodrigo Lopez? Brian The Hair? Anthony Rizzo? Josh Vitters? The thought that Castro would be part of a blockbuster deal sometime over the next 2 years isn't inane.
I just don't know why the team would trade someone who is 22 as if he is some 28 year old about to be free agent. And LaHair, Snork, Garza, Wood, Dempster, Byrd, and Marmol...these are all the players that I don't expect to see on the Cubs after July 31.
However, to jettison Castro now seems silly. If he can't improve his defense in two or three years, but his bat remains hot, then you can plug him at either third or the outfield to cover up his defensive liabilities.
In short, he's probably the only player on the Cubs that I wouldn't expect to see traded.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 16, 2012, 10:24:11 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 10:21:55 AM
At a base level, I don't see why a team that believes it can realistically compete in two to three years would trade an asset worth as much as Castro is when he'd be 25 or 26 (and probably a better player at that point) for two to three players that may or may not be something.
Not if he peaked at age 21.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 10:21:55 AM
However, my frustration is predicated on this supposition that Chuck somehow knows something more than what we do with regards to Starlin's future with the team. To be clear, none of this is predicated on anything you've heard, right Chuck?
Are you serious, Gil?
And yeah, I know...
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 10:34:23 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 10:28:42 AM
So the argument pits Chuck, on one side, suggesting a Castro trade to the Cardinals for Tyler Greene and cash should happen before the COB today, vs. everyone else, who would not listen to any offers involving Starlin Castro unless it was Longoria and Price or Upton and Verlander.
Chuck already conceded that his Twitter argument was poorly worded and wrong.
I will say it again. Who are the Cubs able to trade and get multiple everyday players that can help them years into the future? Garza, probably. Soto, maybe. Marmol, if he gets it together. Byrd? Dempster? Kerry Wood? Soriano? David DeJesus? Ian Stewart? Samardzija? Rodrigo Lopez? Brian The Hair? Anthony Rizzo? Josh Vitters? The thought that Castro would be part of a blockbuster deal sometime over the next 2 years isn't inane.
I just don't know why the team would trade someone who is 22 as if he is some 28 year old about to be free agent. And LaHair, Snork, Garza, Wood, Dempster, Byrd, and Marmol...these are all the players that I don't expect to see on the Cubs after July 31.
However, to jettison Castro now seems silly. If he can't improve his defense in two or three years, but his bat remains hot, then you can plug him at either third or the outfield to cover up his defensive liabilities.
In short, he's probably the only player on the Cubs that I wouldn't expect to see traded.
I actually think TJ has a point, but it's the way Chuck says shit like "trade Starlin at his peak" that gets people's goats. I don't think anyone's saying the Cubs shouldn't listen if teams offer a deal for Starlin that could actually make the team better. I just don't think the rest of us believe there's going to be a package great enough to outweigh the benefits of a maturing Castro.
Basically, TJ's argument boils down to "they may as well listen to offers" and Chuck's comes off as "Rickets and Epstein are souring on Castro and would be open to moving him soon." That may not be what Chuck is trying to say, but he's Chuck.
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 10:28:42 AM
So the argument pits Chuck, on one side, suggesting a Castro trade to the Cardinals for Tyler Greene and cash should happen before the COB today, vs. everyone else, who would not listen to any offers involving Starlin Castro unless it was Longoria and Price or Upton and Verlander.
No. This argument merely pits Chuck against his sworn archenemy: ordinary fucking logic.
I don't think anyone here would be
on principle against trading Castro for value. I think we're all mostly just opposed to Chuck making ridiculous bald assertions to the effect of such a trade "becoming more and more likely".
Because, you know, new shit has come to light or something. I guess.
New shit like Castro being at "peak value". And the 2012 season starting.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 16, 2012, 10:39:21 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 10:28:42 AM
So the argument pits Chuck, on one side, suggesting a Castro trade to the Cardinals for Tyler Greene and cash should happen before the COB today, vs. everyone else, who would not listen to any offers involving Starlin Castro unless it was Longoria and Price or Upton and Verlander.
No. This argument merely pits Chuck against his sworn archenemy: ordinary fucking logic.
I don't think anyone here would be on principle against trading Castro for value. I think we're all mostly just opposed to Chuck making ridiculous bald assertions to the effect of such a trade "becoming more and more likely".
Because, you know, new shit has come to light or something. I guess.
New shit like Castro being at "peak value". And the 2012 season starting.
Because Tom Ricketts was smart enough to hire Theo Epstein to run the team, but dumb enough to run around shitting his pants in panic after a shitty team started the year with a shitty record. Or something.
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 10:28:42 AM
So the argument pits Chuck, on one side, suggesting a Castro trade to the Cardinals for Tyler Greene and cash should happen before the COB today, vs. everyone else, who would not listen to any offers involving Starlin Castro unless it was Longoria and Price or Upton and Verlander.
Chuck already conceded that his Twitter argument was poorly worded and wrong.
I will say it again. Who are the Cubs able to trade and get multiple everyday players that can help them years into the future? Garza, probably. Soto, maybe. Marmol, if he gets it together. Byrd? Dempster? Kerry Wood? Soriano? David DeJesus? Ian Stewart? Samardzija? Rodrigo Lopez? Brian The Hair? Anthony Rizzo? Josh Vitters? The thought that Castro would be part of a blockbuster deal sometime over the next 2 years isn't inane.
Seriously, what type of return makes trading Castro worth it? I suppose I was joking about Longoria, Price, Verlander and Upton, but not entirely.
Of course everyone would "listen" to offers for Castro. But since you're the one who's sympathetic to Chuck in this argument, what sort of player return would you want for this hypothetical Castro trade?
Quote from: R-V on April 16, 2012, 10:45:03 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 16, 2012, 10:39:21 AM
Quote from: Brownie on April 16, 2012, 10:28:42 AM
So the argument pits Chuck, on one side, suggesting a Castro trade to the Cardinals for Tyler Greene and cash should happen before the COB today, vs. everyone else, who would not listen to any offers involving Starlin Castro unless it was Longoria and Price or Upton and Verlander.
No. This argument merely pits Chuck against his sworn archenemy: ordinary fucking logic.
I don't think anyone here would be on principle against trading Castro for value. I think we're all mostly just opposed to Chuck making ridiculous bald assertions to the effect of such a trade "becoming more and more likely".
Because, you know, new shit has come to light or something. I guess.
New shit like Castro being at "peak value". And the 2012 season starting.
Because Tom Ricketts was smart enough to hire Theo Epstein to run the team, but dumb enough to run around shitting his pants in panic after a shitty team started the year with a shitty record. Or something.
But, don't you see?
Theo wasn't hired because Ricketts is
smart. Theo was hired because Ricketts is
a no account goldbricker whose new toy was bleeding red ink. (A no account goldbricker who also lacked the balls to hire Andrew Friedman as half of his diarchy of baseball guys.)
It's all of a piece with Internet Chuck's Unified Theory of Tom. Which was almost entirely gleaned from that one video Chuck watched of Papa Joe talking about some things that one time.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 16, 2012, 09:51:37 AM
To be clear, I would be pissed if they traded Castro for scraps.
This is my favorite clarification ever.
Why does Gil expect Samardjiza to be traded by July 31st?
Do people think this?
Quote from: Slaky on April 16, 2012, 11:45:04 AM
Why does Gil expect Samardjiza to be traded by July 31st?
Do people think this?
Gil has the same inside sources as Chuck.
I meant to embolden Snork and ask Gil, "O RLY" but then saw a dog with a fluffy tail or something.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 10:54:51 AM
Seriously, what type of return makes trading Castro worth it? I suppose I was joking about Longoria, Price, Verlander and Upton, but not entirely.
Of course everyone would "listen" to offers for Castro. But since you're the one who's sympathetic to Chuck in this argument, what sort of player return would you want for this hypothetical Castro trade?
That's the problem. In return for Castro, you'd want a player in his early-to-mid 20s who is an established major leaguer with a big upside. Then you'd also look for either a blue chip prospect or a couple minor leaguers who project to be solid big leaguers.
In other words, they'd essentially have to trade Castro for Castro and stuff. Because the only way you trade a 22-year-old shortstop who already has two seasons of OPS+ of 100 or higher is if you're Chuck.
Quote from: Fork on April 16, 2012, 12:25:07 PM
In other words, they'd essentially have to trade Castro for Castro and stuff.
Exactly this.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Fork on April 16, 2012, 12:25:07 PM
In other words, they'd essentially have to trade Castro for Castro and stuff.
Exactly this.
Seams right.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 01:03:02 PM
Quote from: Fork on April 16, 2012, 12:25:07 PM
In other words, they'd essentially have to trade Castro for Castro and stuff.
Exactly this.
If you don't think this is increasingly likely, you haven't been paying attention.
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
I meant to embolden Snork and ask Gil, "O RLY" but then saw a dog with a fluffy tail or something.
It was mostly me being cheeky, but isn't he a FA after the season?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
I meant to embolden Snork and ask Gil, "O RLY" but then saw a dog with a fluffy tail or something.
It was mostly me being cheeky, but isn't he a FA after the season?
Not until after 2015.
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
I meant to embolden Snork and ask Gil, "O RLY" but then saw a dog with a fluffy tail or something.
It was mostly me being cheeky, but isn't he a FA after the season?
Not until after 2015.
Sweet Jesus!
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 02:21:37 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
I meant to embolden Snork and ask Gil, "O RLY" but then saw a dog with a fluffy tail or something.
It was mostly me being cheeky, but isn't he a FA after the season?
Not until after 2015.
Sweet Jesus!
NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Quote from: Bort on April 16, 2012, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 02:21:37 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
I meant to embolden Snork and ask Gil, "O RLY" but then saw a dog with a fluffy tail or something.
It was mostly me being cheeky, but isn't he a FA after the season?
Not until after 2015.
Sweet Jesus!
NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Look on the bright side. You don't have to find a new player to hate until then.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 16, 2012, 05:12:14 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 16, 2012, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 02:21:37 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 16, 2012, 01:47:46 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on April 16, 2012, 01:45:03 PM
Quote from: PANK! on April 16, 2012, 12:01:43 PM
I meant to embolden Snork and ask Gil, "O RLY" but then saw a dog with a fluffy tail or something.
It was mostly me being cheeky, but isn't he a FA after the season?
Not until after 2015.
Sweet Jesus!
NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Look on the bright side. You don't have to find a new player to hate until then.
True. I have time to become the best darn Snork-hater I can be.
After three starts, Ryan Dempster has a 1.33 ERA, 0.93 WHIP and 23 Ks in 20 IP.
BUT NO WINS.
I see why people hate the guy now. Put down the rubber chicken and win a game, for crying out loud.
Quote from: Eli on April 18, 2012, 10:11:34 AM
After three starts, Ryan Dempster has a 1.33 ERA, 0.93 WHIP and 23 Ks in 20 IP.
BUT NO WINS.
I see why people hate the guy now. Put down the rubber chicken and win a game, for crying out loud.
Don't hate the player. Hate the game. Or something.
Quote from: Eli on April 18, 2012, 10:11:34 AM
After three starts, Ryan Dempster has a 1.33 ERA, 0.93 WHIP and 23 Ks in 20 IP.
BUT NO WINS.
I see why people hate the guy now. Put down the rubber chicken and win a game, for crying out loud.
HE SUCKS THERE WAS A FEW TIMES HE WALKED A GUY OR TWO AND THEN GAVE UP A HIT FUCK HIM.
Quote from: Eli on April 18, 2012, 10:11:34 AM
After three starts, Ryan Dempster has a 1.33 ERA, 0.93 WHIP and 23 Ks in 20 IP.
BUT NO WINS.
I see why people hate the guy now. Put down the rubber chicken and win a game, for crying out loud.
I'm thrilled as fuck that he's got no wins. If I had any expectations for ths year's team, I'd feel differently but fuck him hard until he leaves town and then fuck him more until his repeat ball-crushing disappointments are erased from my memory. That's all I ask.
You don't expect me to change my mind on this putz I hope, Eli?
Quote from: Slaky on April 18, 2012, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 18, 2012, 10:11:34 AM
After three starts, Ryan Dempster has a 1.33 ERA, 0.93 WHIP and 23 Ks in 20 IP.
BUT NO WINS.
I see why people hate the guy now. Put down the rubber chicken and win a game, for crying out loud.
HE SUCKS THERE WAS A FEW TIMES HE WALKED A GUY OR TWO AND THEN GAVE UP A HIT FUCK HIM.
You're missing a few typos but otherwise I like the cut of your gib.
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 10:40:29 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 18, 2012, 10:11:34 AM
After three starts, Ryan Dempster has a 1.33 ERA, 0.93 WHIP and 23 Ks in 20 IP.
BUT NO WINS.
I see why people hate the guy now. Put down the rubber chicken and win a game, for crying out loud.
I'm thrilled as fuck that he's got no wins. If I had any expectations for ths year's team, I'd feel differently but fuck him hard until he leaves town and then fuck him more until his repeat ball-crushing disappointments are erased from my memory. That's all I ask.
You don't expect me to change my mind on this putz I hope, Eli?
GO TEAM DEMPSTER!
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 10:40:29 AM
You don't expect me to change my mind on this putz I hope, Eli?
We only hope that you succeed in your quest to shed your totally unfair reputation for being a meatball.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 18, 2012, 10:43:38 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 10:40:29 AM
You don't expect me to change my mind on this putz I hope, Eli?
We only hope that you succeed in your quest to shed your totally unfair reputation for being a meatball.
Hey I'm not the one goin 'all-NBA about how the NHL wants Phoenix to win because they own the team.
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.) Is it really worth your time? Jesus, leave me to my HATRED will ya? It's all I got.
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.) Is it really worth your time? Jesus, leave me to my HATRED will ya? It's all I got.
We need something to care about this season. Might as well make it a feud over Dempster.
I think you're just asshurt because you're on the losing side.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 18, 2012, 11:15:20 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.) Is it really worth your time? Jesus, leave me to my HATRED will ya? It's all I got.
We need something to care about this season. Might as well make it a feud over Dempster.
I think you're just asshurt because you're on the losing side.
If hating Ryan Dempster is wrong, I don't want to be right.
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.)
Eli does have a long track record of insisting that people judge baseball players rationally according to said players' actual performance as baseball players for some reason.
Which is to say, a long track record of being a fag.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 18, 2012, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.)
Eli does have a long track record of insisting that people judge baseball players rationally according to said players' actual performance as baseball players for some reason.
Which is to say, a long track record of being a fag.
Fine. But he also loves him some prospects, because he's such a SABERHOMO. In that case, I'll patiently await his entrance to the righteous,
correct side (and greet him warmly) after Dempster uses his 5-and-10 status to block a deal for a decent future consideration (I mean, based on the NUMBERS, his value's gotta be pretty decent right now, right?) because gosh he loves living in Chicago so much and would just prefer to ride out here.
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 18, 2012, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.)
Eli does have a long track record of insisting that people judge baseball players rationally according to said players' actual performance as baseball players for some reason.
Which is to say, a long track record of being a fag.
Fine. But he also loves him some prospects, because he's such a SABERHOMO. In that case, I'll patiently await his entrance to the righteous, correct side (and greet him warmly) after Dempster uses his 5-and-10 status to block a deal for a decent future consideration (I mean, based on the NUMBERS, his value's gotta be pretty decent right now, right?) because gosh he loves living in Chicago so much and would just prefer to ride out here.
And what if he does the unthinkable and accepts a trade?
Did anybody else realise that Starlin Castro has 7 (seven!) stolen bases in eleven games this year, and hasn't been caught once?
I had no fucking idea the boy could run *that* well.
Quote from: Tonker on April 18, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
Did anybody else realise that Starlin Castro has 7 (seven!) stolen bases in eleven games this year, and hasn't been caught once?
I had no fucking idea the boy could run *that* well.
The season started?
Quote from: PenPho on April 18, 2012, 11:42:50 AM
Quote from: Tonker on April 18, 2012, 11:41:59 AM
Did anybody else realise that Starlin Castro has 7 (seven!) stolen bases in eleven games this year, and hasn't been caught once?
I had no fucking idea the boy could run *that* well.
The season started?
And 0 homers. Let's wait until he hits a few dongers and then trade his ass early and young like Yetti at a pawn shop for underage girls?
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.) Is it really worth your time? Jesus, leave me to my HATRED will ya? It's all I got.
Since 2008, Dempster is 19th among MLB starters in WAR (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2008&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&players=0). This would imply that he is good enough to be a #1 starter on a mediocre to crappy team or a #2 starter on a good team.
Quote from: R-V on April 18, 2012, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.) Is it really worth your time? Jesus, leave me to my HATRED will ya? It's all I got.
Since 2008, Dempster is 19th among MLB starters in WAR (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2008&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&players=0). This would imply that he is good enough to be a #1 starter on a mediocre to crappy team or a #2 starter on a good team.
Intrepid Reader: HueyOh yeah? Well
REALLY LONG SENTENCE...
Quote from: CT III on April 18, 2012, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:34:42 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 18, 2012, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.)
Eli does have a long track record of insisting that people judge baseball players rationally according to said players' actual performance as baseball players for some reason.
Which is to say, a long track record of being a fag.
Fine. But he also loves him some prospects, because he's such a SABERHOMO. In that case, I'll patiently await his entrance to the righteous, correct side (and greet him warmly) after Dempster uses his 5-and-10 status to block a deal for a decent future consideration (I mean, based on the NUMBERS, his value's gotta be pretty decent right now, right?) because gosh he loves living in Chicago so much and would just prefer to ride out here.
And what if he does the unthinkable and accepts a trade?
Then I'll say something nice about him for a change.
Quote from: R-V on April 18, 2012, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.) Is it really worth your time? Jesus, leave me to my HATRED will ya? It's all I got.
Since 2008, Dempster is 19th among MLB starters in WAR (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2008&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&players=0). This would imply that he is good enough to be a #1 starter on a mediocre to crappy team or a #2 starter on a good team.
He's leading the league in laughs though. Where's your Will Ferrell-as-Harry Caray, Roy Halladay?
Quote from: R-V on April 18, 2012, 11:55:28 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.) Is it really worth your time? Jesus, leave me to my HATRED will ya? It's all I got.
Since 2008, Dempster is 19th among MLB starters in WAR (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=sta&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2012&month=0&season1=2008&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&players=0). This would imply that he is good enough to be a #1 starter on a mediocre to crappy team or a #2 starter on a good team.
Here's a "stat" for you so-called "experts" : GLOVE FLIP
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 11:07:58 AM
To be honest, I don't know why Eli has mystifyingly made it his mission to stick up for a good #2 or #3 pitcher on a crappy team to the 5% of us crazy fucks who for our own perplexing reasons hate him with every red blood cell in our bodies (as opposed to the overall adulation that the guy generally receives from the fans and media in Chicago.) Is it really worth your time? Jesus, leave me to my HATRED will ya? It's all I got.
I honestly just like it when there's discussion here at Desipio.
Also, what Thrill said.
Is it ok if I hate Dempster irrationally?
In the shoutbox, Huey asks "when have I ever pretended that Dempster is a technically BAD pitcher?"
Quote from: PANK! on March 29, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
... this unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery has managed to pitch the Cubs out of the playoffs in two seperate seasons because he's had a whopping three really good regular seasons.
Yay?
*rolls eyes*
Fuck him.
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:54:22 AM
... for chrissakes throw the goddamn ball over the plate when we really need you to. Pretty fucking please? And if he won't, can he at least just leave town and relieve us of our suffering (Except for Eli, Slaky, Yeti and Tonker, who are totally gay for Dempster)?
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Really, my point is that Opening Day--though as meaningless as the other 161 games in a 95 loss season-- is still considered a "Big Game" and that motherfucker did the exact same thing he did against the Dodgers four years earlier. Jesus--where' the hate?!?!
What really matters is that it doesn't matter that Dempster is an above-average pitcher. Huey's willing to stipulate as much.
He's still a pants-shitting shitty pitcher those times he pitches shitty, though.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 18, 2012, 12:43:37 PM
In the shoutbox, Huey asks "when have I ever pretended that Dempster is a technically BAD pitcher?"
Quote from: PANK! on March 29, 2012, 05:28:28 PM
... this unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery has managed to pitch the Cubs out of the playoffs in two seperate seasons because he's had a whopping three really good regular seasons.
Yay?
*rolls eyes*
Fuck him.
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:54:22 AM
... for chrissakes throw the goddamn ball over the plate when we really need you to. Pretty fucking please? And if he won't, can he at least just leave town and relieve us of our suffering (Except for Eli, Slaky, Yeti and Tonker, who are totally gay for Dempster)?
Quote from: PANK! on March 30, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
Really, my point is that Opening Day--though as meaningless as the other 161 games in a 95 loss season-- is still considered a "Big Game" and that motherfucker did the exact same thing he did against the Dodgers four years earlier. Jesus--where' the hate?!?!
What really matters is that it doesn't matter that Dempster is an above-average pitcher. Huey's willing to stipulate as much.
He's still a pants-shitting shitty pitcher those times he pitches shitty, though.
I honestly don't see where that's proof where I felt otherwise. Good pitchers can pitch shittily in big games. This is what we have here, and I'm vexed by it. Sue me.
Considering how rare a postseason appearance is for this franchise, and the fact that on two seperate occassions Dempster's managed to pitch them out of the postseason, well that sort of sticks in my craw. I guess I'm funny that way. Sorry. I guess I just don't TOLERATE BULLSHIT as well as some of you sheeple. Moo.
Huey likes his guys to be CLUTCH.
and GRITTY.
In this Huey vs. Dempster issue I'm torn between my hatred of Canadians and my hatred of the Irish.
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2012, 01:25:31 PM
In this Huey vs. Dempster issue I'm torn between my hatred of Canadians and my hatred of the Irish.
I'd have to acknowledge Canada to hate Canada.
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2012, 12:43:15 PM
Is it ok if I hate Dempster irrationally?
This, to me, is actually perfectly acceptable.
The only thing worse than having a really bad and incorrect reason to hate someone (see: Huey) is this crazy notion that we always need to have reason to hate in the first place.
As I've communicated to Huey several times, it would be much better if he just hated Dempster because of his stupid fucking face than to try and rationalize why he hates him for baseball reasons.
Quote from: PenPho on April 18, 2012, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2012, 12:43:15 PM
Is it ok if I hate Dempster irrationally?
This, to me, is actually perfectly acceptable.
The only thing worse than having a really bad and incorrect reason to hate someone (see: Huey) is this crazy notion that we always need to have reason to hate in the first place.
As I've communicated to Huey several times, it would be much better if he just hated Dempster because of his stupid fucking face than to try and rationalize why he hates him for baseball reasons.
God, I hate Dempster's stupid fucking face.
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2012, 01:32:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on April 18, 2012, 01:27:40 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2012, 12:43:15 PM
Is it ok if I hate Dempster irrationally?
This, to me, is actually perfectly acceptable.
The only thing worse than having a really bad and incorrect reason to hate someone (see: Huey) is this crazy notion that we always need to have reason to hate in the first place.
As I've communicated to Huey several times, it would be much better if he just hated Dempster because of his stupid fucking face than to try and rationalize why he hates him for baseball reasons.
God, I hate Dempster's stupid fucking face.
I've always admired your skills in hating.
What the fuck? Opening Day is a big game?
That's just stupid.
Quote from: Slaky on April 18, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
What the fuck? Opening Day is a big game?
That's just stupid.
March called. It wanted to know why you waited 3 weeks to call me out on this. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=8079.msg252854#msg252854)
And it
is a big game. They drape bunting all over the place!
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2012, 01:25:31 PM
In this Huey vs. Dempster issue I'm torn between my hatred of Canadians and my hatred of the Irish.
Bort hasn't been this conflicted since the Fenian raids.
Quote from: PANK! on April 18, 2012, 01:54:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 18, 2012, 01:45:35 PM
What the fuck? Opening Day is a big game?
That's just stupid.
March called. It wanted to know why you waited 3 weeks to call me out on this. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=8079.msg252854#msg252854)
And it is a big game. They drape bunting all over the place!
Lousy Smarch opinions.
Snork sucks again. Shoulda traded him last week when he still had value. #epstinkisterrible
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 19, 2012, 01:02:30 PM
Snork sucks again. Shoulda traded him last week when he still had value. #epstinkisterrible
He wants us to be patient. We shouldn't be persuaded the the team is bad on the basis of a bad homestand and a bad road trip. Just because they can't hit, pitch, catch, throw or run doesn't mean that they aren't nice people.
Quote from: CBStew on April 19, 2012, 01:23:11 PM
Just because they can't hit, pitch, catch, throw or run doesn't mean that they aren't nice people.
(http://i39.tinypic.com/15cdat.jpg)
Wood to DL, Dempster possibly to miss a start! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-put-kerry-wood-on-disabled-list-20120420,0,3744432.story)
The race to 120 losses is underway!
Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2012, 12:17:10 PM
Wood to DL, Dempster possibly to miss a start! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-put-kerry-wood-on-disabled-list-20120420,0,3744432.story)
The race to 120 losses is underway!
BELIEVE.
Quote from: Bort on April 20, 2012, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2012, 12:17:10 PM
Wood to DL, Dempster possibly to miss a start! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-put-kerry-wood-on-disabled-list-20120420,0,3744432.story)
The race to 120 losses is underway!
BELIEVE.
It's worked out ok for Detroit since they got their asses kicked up and down the AL a many years back.
Quote from: Slaky on April 20, 2012, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 20, 2012, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2012, 12:17:10 PM
Wood to DL, Dempster possibly to miss a start! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-put-kerry-wood-on-disabled-list-20120420,0,3744432.story)
The race to 120 losses is underway!
BELIEVE.
It's worked out ok for Detroit since they got their asses kicked up and down the AL a many years back.
Hmm. Let's see:
1994: 53-62
1995: 60-84
1996: 53-109
1997: 79-83
1998: 65-97
1999:69-92
2000: 79-83
2001: 66-96
2002: 55-106
2003: 43-119
2004: 72-90
2005: 71-91
2006: 95-67 (Pennant, no World Championship)
2007: 88-74
2008: 74-88
2009: 86-77 (Nearly destroyed local economy by losing 1 game playoff at Minnesota -- the "Swung On Belted Base Hit Out" Game)
2010: 81-81
2011: 95-67 (ALCS)
Hendry had nearly the same success over that time!
Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2012, 02:01:11 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 20, 2012, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 20, 2012, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2012, 12:17:10 PM
Wood to DL, Dempster possibly to miss a start! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-put-kerry-wood-on-disabled-list-20120420,0,3744432.story)
The race to 120 losses is underway!
BELIEVE.
It's worked out ok for Detroit since they got their asses kicked up and down the AL a many years back.
Hmm. Let's see:
1994: 53-62
1995: 60-84
1996: 53-109
1997: 79-83
1998: 65-97
1999:69-92
2000: 79-83
2001: 66-96
2002: 55-106
2003: 43-119
2004: 72-90
2005: 71-91
2006: 95-67 (Pennant, no World Championship)
2007: 88-74
2008: 74-88
2009: 86-77 (Nearly destroyed local economy by losing 1 game playoff at Minnesota -- the "Swung On Belted Base Hit Out" Game)
2010: 81-81
2011: 95-67 (ALCS)
Hendry had nearly the same success over that time!
Crap.
Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2012, 02:01:11 PM
2003: 43-119
2012 could be the reverse. Well, the "Tigers could be 5 outs from a pennant and the Cubs could lose 119" reverse.
Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2012, 02:01:11 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 20, 2012, 01:34:25 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 20, 2012, 12:58:25 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 20, 2012, 12:17:10 PM
Wood to DL, Dempster possibly to miss a start! (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-put-kerry-wood-on-disabled-list-20120420,0,3744432.story)
The race to 120 losses is underway!
BELIEVE.
It's worked out ok for Detroit since they got their asses kicked up and down the AL a many years back.
Hmm. Let's see:
1994: 53-62
1995: 60-84
1996: 53-109
1997: 79-83
1998: 65-97
1999:69-92
2000: 79-83
2001: 66-96
2002: 55-106
2003: 43-119
2004: 72-90
2005: 71-91
2006: 95-67 (Pennant, no World Championship)
2007: 88-74
2008: 74-88
2009: 86-77 (Nearly destroyed local economy by losing 1 game playoff at Minnesota -- the "Swung On Belted Base Hit Out" Game)
2010: 81-81
2011: 95-67 (ALCS) (Restored pride to an entire city.)
Hendry had nearly the same success over that time!
Halftime in America'd.
Quote from: Eli on April 18, 2012, 10:11:34 AM
After three starts, Ryan Dempster Carlos Zambrano has a 1.33 2.85 ERA, 0.93 .95 WHIP and 23 16 Ks in 20 19 IP.
BUT NO WINS.
I see why people hate the guy now. Put down the rubber chicken and win a gameStop being such an obnoxious Hispanic, for crying out loud.
Something something Chicago fans don't like brown people something'd.
Dempster to the DL. Tony Freaking Campana is back.
DPD. Byrd might be headed to Boston. It's taking a while because Theo keeps having to delete Chris Carpenter's name from the fine print.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 21, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
DPD. Byrd might be headed to Boston. It's taking a while because Theo keeps having to delete Chris Carpenter's name from the fine print.
Byrd should be worth at least two TOP PROSPECTS, in the abstract.
Quote from: Bort on April 21, 2012, 01:07:54 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 21, 2012, 11:29:17 AM
DPD. Byrd might be headed to Boston. It's taking a while because Theo keeps having to delete Chris Carpenter's name from the fine print.
Byrd should be worth at least two TOP PROSPECTS, in the abstract.
Byrd in the hand... is worth two Rich Jewish Girls from Buffalo Grove?
Trade confirmed by Byrd himself. The Cubs get Michael Bowden, who had been DFA-ed, and a PTBNL. Sounds like Ricketts will be paying most of Byrd's salary so maybe they're buying a better PTBNL with that cash.
Deal clears some space in the clubhouse too.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
Deal clears some space in the clubhouse too.
I get it.
Because black dudes always carry a bunch of stuff around with them on account of not having reliable transportation and having to a. hoof it, b. take public trans c. post up wherever they is.
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 23, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
Deal clears some space in the clubhouse too.
I get it.
Because black dudes always carry a bunch of stuff around with them on account of not having reliable transportation and having to a. hoof it, b. take public trans c. post up wherever they is.
No you don't. It's because he was/is fat.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on April 23, 2012, 10:40:56 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 23, 2012, 10:20:26 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on April 21, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
Deal clears some space in the clubhouse too.
I get it.
Because black dudes always carry a bunch of stuff around with them on account of not having reliable transportation and having to a. hoof it, b. take public trans c. post up wherever they is.
No you don't. It's because he was/is fat.
Cool story, bruh.
Poag Mahone over Doc Hallady in Philly tonight.
This is why I don't gamble.
"Fasten your seatbelts" from Pat with a 5-0 lead going into the 9th.
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JESUS!
Quote from: Wheezer on April 29, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
"Fasten your seatbelts" from Pat with a 5-0 lead going into the 9th.
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JESUS!
Remember when Carlos Marmol was fun bad? Now he's bad bad.
Quote from: Slaky on April 29, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on April 29, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
"Fasten your seatbelts" from Pat with a 5-0 lead going into the 9th.
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JESUS!
Remember when Carlos Marmol was fun bad? Now he's bad bad.
What Wheezer wrote is almost verbatim what I told my 2-year-old in the car when I heard Pat say that.
Quote from: Brownie on April 29, 2012, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 29, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on April 29, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
"Fasten your seatbelts" from Pat with a 5-0 lead going into the 9th.
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JESUS!
Remember when Carlos Marmol was fun bad? Now he's bad bad.
What Wheezer wrote is almost verbatim what I told my 2-year-old in the car when I heard Pat say that.
Hey, at least he's a bargain, right?
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RIGHT?????
Quote from: Fork on April 29, 2012, 08:16:19 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 29, 2012, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 29, 2012, 03:54:35 PM
Quote from: Wheezer on April 29, 2012, 03:00:33 PM
"Fasten your seatbelts" from Pat with a 5-0 lead going into the 9th.
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JESUS!
Remember when Carlos Marmol was fun bad? Now he's bad bad.
What Wheezer wrote is almost verbatim what I told my 2-year-old in the car when I heard Pat say that.
Hey, at least he's a bargain, right?
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RIGHT?????
Intrepid Reader: Internet ChuckAt least his contract wasn't backloaded or anything.
I don't hate this team.
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.
With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.
Just kidding. It'll still suck.
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.
No, me neither - It's not their fault they suck.
The only thing I'm currently able to muster up any hatred for is Darwin Barney and his sub-.290 OBP. Other than that, they're kind of like a spirited kid with Downs Syndrome that's keeping his head above water at the Special Olympics. It's hard not to find this team--though still rather talentless-- a little charming and even harder to actually hate them.
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 06:58:11 AM
The only thing I'm currently able to muster up any hatred for is Darwin Barney and his sub-.290 OBP. Other than that, they're kind of like a spirited kid with Downs Syndrome that's keeping his head above water at the Special Olympics. It's hard not to find this team--though still rather talentless-- a little charming and even harder to actually hate them.
Que joke about Huey seeing a lot of himself on this team.
Quote from: Bort on May 08, 2012, 07:35:10 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 06:58:11 AM
The only thing I'm currently able to muster up any hatred for is Darwin Barney and his sub-.290 OBP. Other than that, they're kind of like a spirited kid with Downs Syndrome that's keeping his head above water at the Special Olympics. It's hard not to find this team--though still rather talentless-- a little charming and even harder to actually hate them.
Que joke about Huey seeing a lot of himself on this team.
I don't really like myself that much.....so no.
They're adorable the way they keep hovering around .500 before reality sets in and the 2-wins-in-15-games hais.
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.
With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.
Just kidding. It'll still suck.
It's going to be really strange when we trade Garza and Dempster who are playing well for good, young prospects, instead of making them the highest paid pitchers in baseball. Plus lifetime no trade clauses.
Quote from: BH on May 08, 2012, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.
With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.
Just kidding. It'll still suck.
It's going to be really strange when we trade Garza and Dempster who are playing well for good, young prospects, instead of making them the highest paid pitchers in baseball. Plus lifetime no trade clauses.
I think Dempster is probably gone, but I'm not as certain about Garza. I think they might be better off extending him, expensive as it might be.
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
Quote from: BH on May 08, 2012, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.
With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.
Just kidding. It'll still suck.
It's going to be really strange when we trade Garza and Dempster who are playing well for good, young prospects, instead of making them the highest paid pitchers in baseball. Plus lifetime no trade clauses.
I think Dempster is probably gone, but I'm not as certain about Garza. I think they might be better off extending him, expensive as it might be.
Agreed. Sure he's a nice trade chip but he's in his prime and he's pretty good. No reason why he can't be a part of this team when they're (hopefully) competitive in 2014.
Quote from: Tonker on May 08, 2012, 01:15:28 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.
No, me neither - It's not their fault they suck.
It helps that they're playing much better defense this year, definitely helps the watchability factor. Yes defensive statistics are unreliable and yes it's early, but last year they were 17th and this year they're 6th in Fangraphs overall defensive rankings (http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=fld&lg=all&qual=0&type=1&season=2012&month=0&season1=2012&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&players=0).
If Epstink hadn't traded Marshall, the Cubs would be .500 now
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
Quote from: BH on May 08, 2012, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.
With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.
Just kidding. It'll still suck.
It's going to be really strange when we trade Garza and Dempster who are playing well for good, young prospects, instead of making them the highest paid pitchers in baseball. Plus lifetime no trade clauses.
I think Dempster is probably gone, but I'm not as certain about Garza. I think they might be better off extending him, expensive as it might be.
(||)
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 08:05:31 AM
Quote from: BH on May 08, 2012, 07:52:35 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2012, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2012, 10:06:13 PM
I don't hate this team.
With Lahair hitting like Barry Bonds and Garza, Samardzija and that unicycle pedalling paragon to Northside asshattery all apparently battling for the Cy Young, maybe this season won't suck as much as everyone thought.
Just kidding. It'll still suck.
It's going to be really strange when we trade Garza and Dempster who are playing well for good, young prospects, instead of making them the highest paid pitchers in baseball. Plus lifetime no trade clauses.
I think Dempster is probably gone, but I'm not as certain about Garza. I think they might be better off extending him, expensive as it might be.
I'd like to keep Garza around. Dempster still has to agree to a trade, right? I have a hard time seeing that happening unless a World Series favorite like Texas comes knocking.
Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2012, 09:10:04 AM
I'd like to keep Garza around. Dempster still has to agree to a trade, right? I have a hard time seeing that happening unless a World Series favorite like Texas comes knocking.
Yeah, he does. I know he adores Chicago but there's nothing stopping him from going to another team at midseason and then just re-signing with the Cubs. And while I mostly profess my love for Dempster to raise Huey's blood pressure, having him back on a 1 or 2 year deal wouldn't be the worst thing. Especially considering the lack of good starting options already in the system.
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2012, 09:10:04 AM
I'd like to keep Garza around. Dempster still has to agree to a trade, right? I have a hard time seeing that happening unless a World Series favorite like Texas comes knocking.
Yeah, he does. I know he adores Chicago but there's nothing stopping him from going to another a potential playoff team at midseason and then just re-signing with the Cubs.
Playoff rental'd
Because even Shecky has to know
the Cubs aren't going there this season.
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
And while I mostly profess my love for Dempster to raise Huey's blood pressure, having him back on a 1 or 2 year deal wouldn't be the worst thing. Especially considering the lack of good starting options already in the system.
TEAM DEMPSTER!
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 09:34:22 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2012, 09:10:04 AM
I'd like to keep Garza around. Dempster still has to agree to a trade, right? I have a hard time seeing that happening unless a World Series favorite like Texas comes knocking.
Yeah, he does. I know he adores Chicago but there's nothing stopping him from going to another a potential playoff team at midseason and then just re-signing with the Cubs.
Playoff rental'd
Because even Shecky has to know the Cubs aren't going there this season.
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 09:25:44 AM
And while I mostly profess my love for Dempster to raise Huey's blood pressure, having him back on a 1 or 2 year deal wouldn't be the worst thing. Especially considering the lack of good starting options already in the system.
TEAM DEMPSTER!
They could trade him to the White Sox. He wouldn't even have to move. Too bad the Sox don't have anything anybody wants. Cash money perhaps.
I think Garza might be where we see the biggest difference between Epstink and Hendry.
Hendry would have traded Garza this winter for the best available package, and Epstink won't move him until he gets what he wants.
Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2012, 10:44:21 AM
I think Garza might be where we see the biggest difference between Epstink and Hendry.
Hendry would have traded Garza this winter for the best available package, and Epstink won't move him until he gets what he wants.
Not a chance Hendry would of traded Garza. If anything he'd have given him a contract extension that wiped out his arbitration years at above market value.
Quote from: CT III on May 08, 2012, 10:52:23 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2012, 10:44:21 AM
I think Garza might be where we see the biggest difference between Epstink and Hendry.
Hendry would have traded Garza this winter for the best available package, and Epstink won't move him until he gets what he wants.
Not a chance Hendry would of traded Garza. If anything he'd have given him a contract extension that wiped out his arbitration years at above market value.
Exactly. Hendry traded FOR Garza. No way he gives him up.
When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM
When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?
Mark DeRosa.
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM
When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?
Mark DeRosa.
Aramis Ramirez.
I don't remember the Cubs trading Aramis Ramirez at his peak.
Quote from: PenPho on May 08, 2012, 11:22:28 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM
When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?
Mark DeRosa.
Aramis Ramirez.
I don't remember the Cubs trading Aramis Ramirez at his peak.
I misunderstood.
*Goes to the back of the line*
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM
When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?
Mark DeRosa.
Jake Fox?
More minor deals, but Jose Ceda and Chris Archer were traded while they still had a lot of value. Or at least right before they got substantially worse.
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM
When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?
Mark DeRosa.
Jake Fox?
More minor deals, but Jose Ceda and Chris Archer were traded while they still had a lot of value. Or at least right before they got substantially worse.
Ceda got the Cubs the services of the serviceable Kevin Gregg. Archer got them Garza's left foot.
This appears to be all they have left from the Fox/Miles trade. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=spence002mat)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:33:43 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 11:31:29 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 08, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 08, 2012, 11:16:33 AM
When did Hendry every trade a guy at peak value? Choi for Lee?
Mark DeRosa.
Jake Fox?
More minor deals, but Jose Ceda and Chris Archer were traded while they still had a lot of value. Or at least right before they got substantially worse.
Ceda got the Cubs the services of the serviceable Kevin Gregg. Archer got them Garza's left foot.
This appears to be all they have left from the Fox/Miles trade. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=spence002mat)
.188/.260/.246 in 27 games at Iowa last year.
OPS = .506. Jebus the guy makes Darwin Barney look like Matt Kemp. Of course his wherabouts in 2012 appear to be unknown. My guess is he's working at his local car wash.
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
.188/.260/.246 in 27 games at Iowa last year.
OPS = .506. Jebus the guy makes Darwin Barney look like Matt Kemp.
Yeah... If they moved Barney to 1B/OF.
You know, to prolong his career.
Hack Jew Lee
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012). When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.
And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:
G GS IP H K BB ERA WHIP BAA W-L
6 6 39.2 35 21 9 2.72 1.11 .235 4-0
Any guesses?
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012). When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.
And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:
G GS IP H K BB ERA WHIP BAA W-L
6 6 39.2 35 21 9 2.72 1.11 .235 4-0
Any guesses?
Nolasco 2012?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 08, 2012, 12:04:04 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012). When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.
And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:
G GS IP H K BB ERA WHIP BAA W-L
6 6 39.2 35 21 9 2.72 1.11 .235 4-0
Any guesses?
Nolasco 2012?
WINNAR.
I mean sure, Reynel Pinto and Sergio Meat Tray are probably bussing tables somewhere (and starting pitching is hardly a big problem for the Cubs right now anyway), but that factoid alone has still managed to rekindle some PIERRE/HENDRY ANGER.
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012). When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.
And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:
G GS IP H K BB ERA WHIP BAA W-L
6 6 39.2 35 21 9 2.72 1.11 .235 4-0
Any guesses?
Illinois-Wisconsin?
Quote from: R-V on May 08, 2012, 01:00:39 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 08, 2012, 11:54:39 AM
Also, Jose Ceda hasn't necessarily gotten worse; he's mostly just injured (he's shut down for 2012). When healthy, he's still projected as a solid prospect.
And since we're tangentally riffing on the Jim Hendry Era, thought I'd throw out this state line:
G GS IP H K BB ERA WHIP BAA W-L
6 6 39.2 35 21 9 2.72 1.11 .235 4-0
Any guesses?
Illinois-Wisconsin?
Sure?
Quote from: Fork on May 08, 2012, 10:44:21 AM
I think Garza might be where we see the biggest difference between Epstink and Hendry.
Hendry would have traded Garza this winter for the best available package, and Epstink won't move him until he gets what he wants.
This post might need to be nominated for something.
Josh Beckett is being run out of Boston. Does anyone really think he's done? Coincidentally, he's owed $2MM/year less than Soriano over the same term. Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season. The Cubs could kick in a bit more than $6MM cash, Ian Stewart, Blake Dewitt and any other trash to get Soriano off their hands, and the Sawx might be happy to get the chicken guy out of there.
You then would have Youkilis at 3rd, Rizzo at 1st, The Hair in left:
DeJesus rf
Castro ss
Youkilis 3b
LaHair lf
Rizzo 1b
Soto c
Johnson/Campana cf
Barney 2b
SP: Garza/Beckett/Snork/Maholm/Volstad
It doesn't make the Cubs any older, and if Beckett shows signs that he's healthy and focused, he's a much more trade-able piece later.
Thoughts?
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
Josh Beckett is being run out of Boston. Does anyone really think he's done? Coincidentally, he's owed $2MM/year less than Soriano over the same term. Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season. The Cubs could kick in a bit more than $6MM cash, Ian Stewart, Blake Dewitt and any other trash to get Soriano off their hands, and the Sawx might be happy to get the chicken guy out of there.
You then would have Youkilis at 3rd, Rizzo at 1st, The Hair in left:
DeJesus rf
Castro ss
Youkilis 3b
LaHair lf
Rizzo 1b
Soto c
Johnson/Campana cf
Barney 2b
SP: Garza/Beckett/Snork/Maholm/Volstad
It doesn't make the Cubs any older, and if Beckett shows signs that he's healthy and focused, he's a much more trade-able piece later.
Thoughts?
Why would Boston want to do this trade?
Quote from: BH on May 11, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
Josh Beckett is being run out of Boston. Does anyone really think he's done? Coincidentally, he's owed $2MM/year less than Soriano over the same term. Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season. The Cubs could kick in a bit more than $6MM cash, Ian Stewart, Blake Dewitt and any other trash to get Soriano off their hands, and the Sawx might be happy to get the chicken guy out of there.
You then would have Youkilis at 3rd, Rizzo at 1st, The Hair in left:
DeJesus rf
Castro ss
Youkilis 3b
LaHair lf
Rizzo 1b
Soto c
Johnson/Campana cf
Barney 2b
SP: Garza/Beckett/Snork/Maholm/Volstad
It doesn't make the Cubs any older, and if Beckett shows signs that he's healthy and focused, he's a much more trade-able piece later.
Thoughts?
Why would Boston want to do this trade?
They're apparently shopping Youkilis around and Valentine wants Beckett out of the clubhouse after he played golf last week a day after being scratched from a start. Obviously, the Cubs would have to include something else but it might not be as high a cost as you'd think.
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Quote from: BH on May 11, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
Josh Beckett is being run out of Boston. Does anyone really think he's done? Coincidentally, he's owed $2MM/year less than Soriano over the same term. Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season. The Cubs could kick in a bit more than $6MM cash, Ian Stewart, Blake Dewitt and any other trash to get Soriano off their hands, and the Sawx might be happy to get the chicken guy out of there.
You then would have Youkilis at 3rd, Rizzo at 1st, The Hair in left:
DeJesus rf
Castro ss
Youkilis 3b
LaHair lf
Rizzo 1b
Soto c
Johnson/Campana cf
Barney 2b
SP: Garza/Beckett/Snork/Maholm/Volstad
It doesn't make the Cubs any older, and if Beckett shows signs that he's healthy and focused, he's a much more trade-able piece later.
Thoughts?
Why would Boston want to do this trade?
They're apparently shopping Youkilis around and Valentine wants Beckett out of the clubhouse after he played golf last week a day after being scratched from a start. Obviously, the Cubs would have to include something else but it might not be as high a cost as you'd think.
You have no idea what I think. If you did, you'd kill me.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2012, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Quote from: BH on May 11, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
Josh Beckett is being run out of Boston. Does anyone really think he's done? Coincidentally, he's owed $2MM/year less than Soriano over the same term. Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season. The Cubs could kick in a bit more than $6MM cash, Ian Stewart, Blake Dewitt and any other trash to get Soriano off their hands, and the Sawx might be happy to get the chicken guy out of there.
You then would have Youkilis at 3rd, Rizzo at 1st, The Hair in left:
DeJesus rf
Castro ss
Youkilis 3b
LaHair lf
Rizzo 1b
Soto c
Johnson/Campana cf
Barney 2b
SP: Garza/Beckett/Snork/Maholm/Volstad
It doesn't make the Cubs any older, and if Beckett shows signs that he's healthy and focused, he's a much more trade-able piece later.
Thoughts?
Why would Boston want to do this trade?
They're apparently shopping Youkilis around and Valentine wants Beckett out of the clubhouse after he played golf last week a day after being scratched from a start. Obviously, the Cubs would have to include something else but it might not be as high a cost as you'd think.
You have no idea what I think. If you did, you'd kill me.
You have no idea what he'd do.
Quote from: BH on May 11, 2012, 12:35:23 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2012, 12:33:21 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Quote from: BH on May 11, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
Josh Beckett is being run out of Boston. Does anyone really think he's done? Coincidentally, he's owed $2MM/year less than Soriano over the same term. Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season. The Cubs could kick in a bit more than $6MM cash, Ian Stewart, Blake Dewitt and any other trash to get Soriano off their hands, and the Sawx might be happy to get the chicken guy out of there.
You then would have Youkilis at 3rd, Rizzo at 1st, The Hair in left:
DeJesus rf
Castro ss
Youkilis 3b
LaHair lf
Rizzo 1b
Soto c
Johnson/Campana cf
Barney 2b
SP: Garza/Beckett/Snork/Maholm/Volstad
It doesn't make the Cubs any older, and if Beckett shows signs that he's healthy and focused, he's a much more trade-able piece later.
Thoughts?
Why would Boston want to do this trade?
They're apparently shopping Youkilis around and Valentine wants Beckett out of the clubhouse after he played golf last week a day after being scratched from a start. Obviously, the Cubs would have to include something else but it might not be as high a cost as you'd think.
You have no idea what I think. If you did, you'd kill me.
You have no idea what he'd do.
I'd kill you both ... and Epstink.
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:14:23 PM
Josh Beckett is being run out of Boston. Does anyone really think he's done? Coincidentally, he's owed $2MM/year less than Soriano over the same term. Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season. The Cubs could kick in a bit more than $6MM cash, Ian Stewart, Blake Dewitt and any other trash to get Soriano off their hands, and the Sawx might be happy to get the chicken guy out of there.
You then would have Youkilis at 3rd, Rizzo at 1st, The Hair in left:
DeJesus rf
Castro ss
Youkilis 3b
LaHair lf
Rizzo 1b
Soto c
Johnson/Campana cf
Barney 2b
SP: Garza/Beckett/Snork/Maholm/Volstad
It doesn't make the Cubs any older, and if Beckett shows signs that he's healthy and focused, he's a much more trade-able piece later.
Thoughts?
If Cherington got really drunk and agreed to that deal, I'd be all for it.
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
We get Youk, then trade him to boston at the trade deadline for players to be named later.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
I was referring to Youkilis.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
I was referring to Youkilis.
Well, if you read Phil Rogers today, the Cubs would be able to spin him off to the White Sox for Gavin Floyd and Matt Thornton.
Yes, I realize now how dumb the idle thought was. Oh well.
Go Heat. :(
So Soriano, Dempster and $6mm per year for Beckett and Youkillis? I don't see this helping the Cubs. The timetable is 2014. Will Beckett and Youkillis be good in 2014? They will be 34 and 35 that year. Doubtful.
Trade Demps for 1 or 2 under 23 year old prospects and bench or release Soriano. You're better off that way.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
I was referring to Youkilis.
He sucks less than Stewart, and provides a placeholder until Vitters is ready.
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
I was referring to Youkilis.
He sucks less than Stewart, and provides a placeholder until Vitters is ready.
Haha.
The only thing the Cubs need to be trading for right now is high-ceiling prospects who project to be major league-ready from 2014-2016. Anything else is a complete waste of time, unless it saves money, and this trade probably won't.
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
I was referring to Youkilis.
He sucks less than Stewart, and provides a placeholder until Vitters is ready.
Haha.
Maybe he meant ready for his outright release.
Quote from: Slaky on May 14, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
I was referring to Youkilis.
He sucks less than Stewart, and provides a placeholder until Vitters is ready.
Haha.
Maybe he meant ready for his outright release.
Juan Pierre career minor-league slugging: .393
Josh Vitters slugging percentage in 2012: .388
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 14, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
I was referring to Youkilis.
He sucks less than Stewart, and provides a placeholder until Vitters is ready.
Haha.
Maybe he meant ready for his outright release.
Juan Pierre career minor-league slugging: .393
Josh Vitters slugging percentage in 2012: .388
But what about when they were 10 years old, when vitters was hitting 500+ ft dingers?
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 14, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
I was referring to Youkilis.
He sucks less than Stewart, and provides a placeholder until Vitters is ready.
Haha.
Maybe he meant ready for his outright release.
Juan Pierre career minor-league slugging: .393
Josh Vitters slugging percentage in 2012: .388
So, what you're saying is... The Cubs should trade Vitters for Ricky Nolasco and a couple of bullpen arms?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 14, 2012, 09:30:12 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 09:24:41 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 14, 2012, 09:14:03 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 08:52:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 14, 2012, 08:48:49 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 11, 2012, 12:39:09 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 11, 2012, 12:31:54 PM
Kevin Youkilis is owed about the same as Dempster this year and will certainly be a free agent after the season.
Then what's the interest in him from the Cubs' perspective?
You hope the change of scenery does Beckett some good. And in Dempster, the Sawx get a clubhouse guy, someone who will use rubber chickens, not eat fried chicken.
I was referring to Youkilis.
He sucks less than Stewart, and provides a placeholder until Vitters is ready.
Haha.
Maybe he meant ready for his outright release.
Juan Pierre career minor-league slugging: .393
Josh Vitters slugging percentage in 2012: .388
So, what you're saying is... The Cubs should trade Vitters for Ricky Nolasco and a couple of bullpen arms?
Epstink has proven he ain't in the wrong-rightin' business.
Are the Tribune's headline writers actually unemployed joke writers?
"Cubs hope to prove they can contend"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-hope-to-prove-they-can-contend-20120514,0,1187397.story
Quote from: CBStew on May 14, 2012, 04:52:29 PM
Are the Tribune's headline writers actually unemployed joke writers?
"Cubs hope to prove they can contend"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-hope-to-prove-they-can-contend-20120514,0,1187397.story
Should the Cubs not hope to do that?
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 14, 2012, 05:43:06 PM
Quote from: CBStew on May 14, 2012, 04:52:29 PM
Are the Tribune's headline writers actually unemployed joke writers?
"Cubs hope to prove they can contend"
http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-hope-to-prove-they-can-contend-20120514,0,1187397.story
Should the Cubs not hope to do that?
As long as they are hoping it might as well be to go to paradise with their quota of 77 virgins.
I don't think they're that bad.
In fact, I don't think it's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 06:48:01 PM
I don't think they're that bad.
In fact, I don't think it's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
They are in last place, on pace for 95+ losses despite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year. There is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter. They don't have a closer or much of a bullpen. Their catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70. And, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Without some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
It's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 06:48:01 PM
In fact, I don't think it's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
I've been thinking about climbing aboard that bandwagon myself.
TEAM 2013! FYC!
A team could conceivably win 81 games and "contend." They are in last place but they're only 3.5 games out of second. Slam it up the caboose, Chuck.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 14, 2012, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 06:48:01 PM
In fact, I don't think it's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
I've been thinking about climbing aboard that bandwagon myself.
TEAM 2013! FYC!
Wait, does this mean we can expand the FYC to every time the Cubs do anything right? Because I am so on that wagon.
That bunting tournament sure paid off. Or, did Starlin didn't get past the first round?
Quote from: pisomojado8 on May 14, 2012, 08:50:15 PM
That bunting tournament sure paid off. Or, did Starlin didn't get past the first round?
That
was pretty damned stupid. But, hey -- Fuck You, Chuck!
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 14, 2012, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 06:48:01 PM
In fact, I don't think it's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
I've been thinking about climbing aboard that bandwagon myself.
TEAM 2013! FYC!
And now so am I.
#FYC2013
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quoteon pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quotedespite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
QuoteThere is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
QuoteThey don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
QuoteTheir catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
QuoteAnd, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
QuoteWithout some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
QuoteIt's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quoteon pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quotedespite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
QuoteThere is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
QuoteThey don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
QuoteTheir catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
QuoteAnd, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
QuoteWithout some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
QuoteIt's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
You should come to Tonkfest.
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quoteon pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quotedespite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
QuoteThere is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
QuoteThey don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
QuoteTheir catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
QuoteAnd, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
QuoteWithout some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
QuoteIt's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
Man, Eli just gassed up the FYCMOBILE. Let's take this shit on the road.
Quote from: PANK! on May 14, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quoteon pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quotedespite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
QuoteThere is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
QuoteThey don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
QuoteTheir catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
QuoteAnd, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
QuoteWithout some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
QuoteIt's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
You should come to Tonkfest.
THIS. THIS THIS THIS. I swear, if Eli's not coming, then neither am I.
Also, I watched last night's game and really fucking enjoyed it. They remind me a little bit of the 2007 Cubs, and post-season pants-shitting aside, that's not a bad thing at all. The 2007 Cubs were fung, man.
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quoteon pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quotedespite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
QuoteThere is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
QuoteThey don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
QuoteTheir catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
QuoteAnd, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
QuoteWithout some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
QuoteIt's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
Aren't you supposed to say "Eli out" before you drop your microphone?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 07:42:56 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quoteon pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quotedespite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
QuoteThere is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
QuoteThey don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
QuoteTheir catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
QuoteAnd, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
QuoteWithout some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
QuoteIt's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
Aren't you supposed to say "Eli out" before you drop your microphone?
He had us so hooked on every word that it didn't matter, we could hear him whisper.
Quote from: Tonker on May 15, 2012, 07:18:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 14, 2012, 10:06:42 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 14, 2012, 07:08:53 PM
They are in last place
As already stated, they're only 2.5 games out of second.
Quoteon pace for 95+ losses
Not really indicative of how they've played. They got off to a horrendous start but have played over .500 in the last several weeks.
Quotedespite getting sub 1.00 ERA from a starter who won't be here next year.
How do you know that?
QuoteThere is a good probability that they will trade their #2 starter.
Since you deal in non-specifics all the time, I don't actually know who you're talking about but I assume Garza. There's been lots of talk about how they want to give him a contract extension lately and that talks are progressing.
QuoteThey don't have a closer or much of a bullpen.
Bullpens are the easiest thing in baseball to fix. And closers are overrated.
QuoteTheir catcher, 3rd baseman and left fielder all have OPS+ under 70.
And they're still playing over .500 baseball in their last several weeks!
QuoteAnd, with these weaknesses, they only have one guy in the minors ready to come up and that's it.
Development for 2013 ends in May 2012, deems Chuck.
QuoteWithout some combination of major free agent spending and trades for major-league ready talent, this team is likely to be putrid next year, too.
And why can't any of these things happen? They have tons of payroll flexibility and there are some quality free agents available in the offseason. They have arguably the best front office in baseball to potentially make impactful trades.
QuoteIt's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
So is your face.
[Drops microphone.]
Eli out.
You should come to Tonkfest.
THIS. THIS THIS THIS. I swear, if Eli's not coming, then neither am I.
Also, I watched last night's game and really fucking enjoyed it. They remind me a little bit of the 2007 Cubs, and post-season pants-shitting aside, that's not a bad thing at all. The 2007 Cubs were fung for the last 4 months, man.
Something something Lou having to fumigate Dusty's residual badness the first 2 months'd.
This post serves as a Bryan LaHair appreciation splooge post.
Carry on.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 07:42:56 AM
Aren't you supposed to say "Eli out" before you drop your microphone?
I'll wait for a ruling from Apex.
Also, if you want further #FYC2013 fuel (don't we all?), Baseball Prospectus' adjusted standings have the Cubs with the third-best record (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/standings/) in the National League, based on run differential and strength of schedule.
Quote from: pisomojado8 on May 14, 2012, 08:50:15 PM
Or, did Starlin didn't get past the first round?
Or did he did?
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 08:25:54 AM
Also, if you want further #FYC2013 fuel (don't we all?), Baseball Prospectus' adjusted standings have the Cubs with the third-best record (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/standings/) in the National League, based on run differential and strength of schedule.
Fourth best, behind the Cards, Nats and Dodgers.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 15, 2012, 08:35:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 08:25:54 AM
Also, if you want further #FYC2013 fuel (don't we all?), Baseball Prospectus' adjusted standings have the Cubs with the third-best record (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/standings/) in the National League, based on run differential and strength of schedule.
Fourth best, behind the Cards, Nats and Dodgers.
Not all of us got to major in counting at art school.
Chuck needs to stick to the basics - at their current pace, the 2012 Chicago cubs project to play 162 games.
Quote from: Bort on May 14, 2012, 08:32:31 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 14, 2012, 07:13:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 14, 2012, 06:48:01 PM
In fact, I don't think it's totally crazy to think they could contend as soon as next year.
I've been thinking about climbing aboard that bandwagon myself.
TEAM 2013! FYC!
Wait, does this mean we can expand the FYC to every time the Cubs do anything right? Because I am so on that wagon.
I have never been more excited to join an internet bandwagon.
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 08:25:54 AM
Also, if you want further #FYC2013 fuel (don't we all?), Baseball Prospectus' adjusted standings have the Cubs with the third-best record (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/standings/) in the National League, based on run differential and strength of schedule.
In other words, when they stop playing the Braves, Cards, Reds and such they're going to win 20 in a row.
THIS IS GONNA BE AWESOME FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU CHUCK!
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 08:16:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 07:42:56 AM
Aren't you supposed to say "Eli out" before you drop your microphone?
I'll wait for a ruling from Apex.
I'm going to say you muffed that part but I was too busy throwing chairs and kicking over trash cans to notice.
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
Sveumstink's not long for the jorb anyway and will be gone by November. They're totes hiring Phil Jackson.
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
I feel like I was watching basketball and didn't see the odd stuff occur so I'm going to pretend they hit a two-run dong and stay totes jacked about the Cubbies.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 15, 2012, 09:42:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
I feel like I was watching basketball and didn't see the odd stuff occur so I'm going to pretend they hit a two-run dong and stay totes jacked about the Cubbies.
Now I'm just getting angry (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0515-cubs-cardinals-chicago--20120515,0,6733866.story):
QuoteThe Cubs stranded 14 baserunners, went 3-for-17 with runners in scoring position and still haven't figured out how to execute a bunt, a recurring theme. Dale Sveum made a risky move in the eighth by having Starlin Castro sacrifice with two on and no outs.
Sveum said he wanted to stay out of the double play, "even though you figure they're going to walk (Bryan) LaHair" to get to Soriano.
"The more people you start getting on base and turning that (lineup) over is fine with me," Sveum said.
Soriano was 0-for-9 with seven strikeouts against the reliever, while LaHair already was 3-for-4 in the game with a two-run homer.
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:44:46 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 15, 2012, 09:42:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
I feel like I was watching basketball and didn't see the odd stuff occur so I'm going to pretend they hit a two-run dong and stay totes jacked about the Cubbies.
Now I'm just getting angry (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0515-cubs-cardinals-chicago--20120515,0,6733866.story):
QuoteThe Cubs stranded 14 baserunners, went 3-for-17 with runners in scoring position and still haven't figured out how to execute a bunt, a recurring theme. Dale Sveum made a risky move in the eighth by having Starlin Castro sacrifice with two on and no outs.
Sveum said he wanted to stay out of the double play, "even though you figure they're going to walk (Bryan) LaHair" to get to Soriano.
"The more people you start getting on base and turning that (lineup) over is fine with me," Sveum said.
Soriano was 0-for-9 with seven strikeouts against the reliever, while LaHair already was 3-for-4 in the game with a two-run homer.
*fingers in ears"
Bleh-bleh-bleh-bleh-bleh...Philly ties Boston Lakers pantsed Cubs win you assholes wanted Quade gone so bad and NOW look...bleh-bleh-bleh bleh..
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:44:46 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 15, 2012, 09:42:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
I feel like I was watching basketball and didn't see the odd stuff occur so I'm going to pretend they hit a two-run dong and stay totes jacked about the Cubbies.
Now I'm just getting angry (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0515-cubs-cardinals-chicago--20120515,0,6733866.story):
QuoteThe Cubs stranded 14 baserunners, went 3-for-17 with runners in scoring position and still haven't figured out how to execute a bunt, a recurring theme. Dale Sveum made a risky move in the eighth by having Starlin Castro sacrifice with two on and no outs.
Sveum said he wanted to stay out of the double play, "even though you figure they're going to walk (Bryan) LaHair" to get to Soriano.
"The more people you start getting on base and turning that (lineup) over is fine with me," Sveum said.
Soriano was 0-for-9 with seven strikeouts against the reliever, while LaHair already was 3-for-4 in the game with a two-run homer.
The part about the stranded baserunners is pissoffable to me...most of them were in the first couple innings.
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:44:46 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 15, 2012, 09:42:00 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
I feel like I was watching basketball and didn't see the odd stuff occur so I'm going to pretend they hit a two-run dong and stay totes jacked about the Cubbies.
Now I'm just getting angry (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0515-cubs-cardinals-chicago--20120515,0,6733866.story):
QuoteThe Cubs stranded 14 baserunners, went 3-for-17 with runners in scoring position and still haven't figured out how to execute a bunt, a recurring theme. Dale Sveum made a risky move in the eighth by having Starlin Castro sacrifice with two on and no outs.
Sveum said he wanted to stay out of the double play, "even though you figure they're going to walk (Bryan) LaHair" to get to Soriano.
"The more people you start getting on base and turning that (lineup) over is fine with me," Sveum said.
Soriano was 0-for-9 with seven strikeouts against the reliever, while LaHair already was 3-for-4 in the game with a two-run homer.
Risky is a pretty kind description. Sveum either (a) thought through the scenario and decided that, yes, he'd rather have turtle legs Soriano up with the bases loaded and 1 out than the best hitter on the team up with 2 men on and nobody out (b) didn't think any further than "man on 3rd less than 1 out good" or (c) wanted to teach Castro some time of old-timey lesson about giving himself up for the team. None of these options make me happy with Dale.
I know I'm overreacting but I thought we were done with shenanigans like this when Epstein was hired.
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
I like the idea of calling him "The Joe Mather."
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 15, 2012, 09:59:38 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
I like the idea of calling him "The Joe Mather."
Very Iron Sheik.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 15, 2012, 10:02:52 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 15, 2012, 09:59:38 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
I like the idea of calling him "The Joe Mather."
Very Iron Sheik.
The can be only one.
Quote from: Slaky on May 15, 2012, 09:39:45 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 09:23:55 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 15, 2012, 09:20:18 AM
But seriously guys, that Castro bunt was troubling. Sveum's postgame rationale actually made me more angry.
He's just experimenting so everything is perfect for next year's 98-win season.
All the bunting somehow turned into CHAOS and HAVOC and the Cubs won the game. Castro's bunt was the worst bunt of the year according to Joe Sheehan who is smart and it resulted in a run despite the odds of the Cubs scoring a run going way down after the bunt was complete and Castro made an out.
The Joe Mather's bunt led to SHENANIGANS and naturally another run.
I feel like the baseball universe rewarded Sveum for his terrible decisions and he's going to keep doing it.
This gives me pause.
That sounds like Dusty. Guh.
Also, I agree that DALES WAIMstink is not long for the job, but he's serviceable. He is to the Theo regime what Lee Elia was to the Green regime. Point A to Point B kinda guy (with apologies to Jerry Reinsdorf for use of said expression). Maybe we'll be treated to memorable diatribe after a mid-May loss next season, greasing the skids for his exit, and allowing the next guy (the "Jim Frey", if you will...manager verison, definitely not the GM version) to lead our KUBBIEZ to glory. Can I get a ruling on this, TJ Brown?
I realizes this pushes the Big Picture plan back to Chuck's 2014 (and I hate to miss out on a good dogpile on Chuck) but really--just because they can compete for the Short Bus Central doesn't mean they're really ready to do some serious shit so soon, does it? With those contracts? If they can rid themsleves of some of those deals by next April, then sure but otherwise I'd be surprised if they were legit as soon as next year.
The point is, they don't totally suck at present and that's good enough for now...no?
DPD (and FYBH)--
As we're all generally okay with the current state of affairs, it sure would be nice to have a Gamecast for today's tilt (http://www.desipio.com/), wouldn't it?
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
I realizes this pushes the Big Picture plan back to Chuck's 2014 (and I hate to miss out on a good dogpile on Chuck) but really--just because they can compete for the Short Bus Central doesn't mean they're really ready to do some serious shit soon, does it? With those contracts? If they can rid themsleves of some of those deals by next April, then sure but otherwise I'd be surprised if they were legit as soon as next year.
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
I realizes this pushes the Big Picture plan back to Chuck's 2014 (and I hate to miss out on a good dogpile on Chuck) but really--just because they can compete for the Short Bus Central doesn't mean they're really ready to do some serious shit soon, does it? With those contracts? If they can rid themsleves of some of those deals by next April, then sure but otherwise I'd be surprised if they were legit as soon as next year.
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
Yeah I thought of the Cardinals and their two cheapo titles in the last 10 years it didn't alter my argument--it just made me sad and angry. Thanks for nuttin'.
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
Also, I agree that DALES WAIMstink is not long for the job, but he's serviceable. He is to the Theo regime what Lee Elia was to the Green regime. Point A to Point B kinda guy (with apologies to Jerry Reinsdorf for use of said expression). Maybe we'll be treated to memorable diatribe after a mid-May loss next season, greasing the skids for his exit, and allowing the next guy (the "Jim Frey", if you will...manager verison, definitely not the GM version) to lead our KUBBIEZ to glory. Can I get a ruling on this, TJ Brown?
Sveum fits the mold of Elia: hitting coach who worked for the GM, middle infielder who once played for the White Sox, somewhat fiery, not attached to any of the clowns here... But we will see. Tito is getting tanned and rested watching baseball and not being Joe Morgan or Bobby Valentine every Sunday. Still, I don't think Epstein will want another managerial vacancy to get another "WE SHOULD OF HIRED THAT CARL SANDBURG FOR THE JOB" controversy... unless Theo's intent
is to bring Sandberg in when the team is not inevitably sucky.
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
I really wish there were some magical situation where the Cubs tell Alfonso Soriano to just go away. Just please go and never come back. I'm sure you're an okay guy and all, and you berry lucky to play the baseball, but just not here anymore.
Quote from: Brownie on May 15, 2012, 11:07:13 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
Also, I agree that DALES WAIMstink is not long for the job, but he's serviceable. He is to the Theo regime what Lee Elia was to the Green regime. Point A to Point B kinda guy (with apologies to Jerry Reinsdorf for use of said expression). Maybe we'll be treated to memorable diatribe after a mid-May loss next season, greasing the skids for his exit, and allowing the next guy (the "Jim Frey", if you will...manager verison, definitely not the GM version) to lead our KUBBIEZ to glory. Can I get a ruling on this, TJ Brown?
Sveum fits the mold of Elia: hitting coach who worked for the GM, middle infielder who once played for the White Sox, somewhat fiery, not attached to any of the clowns here... But we will see. Tito is getting tanned and rested watching baseball and not being Joe Morgan or Bobby Valentine every Sunday. Still, I don't think Epstein will want another managerial vacancy to get another "WE SHOULD OF HIRED THAT CARL SANDBURG FOR THE JOB" controversy... unless Theo's intent is to bring Sandberg in when the team is not inevitably sucky.
Well even Ryno could elect to not start his ace on a 15-game winning streak for a clinching game.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
I really wish there were some magical situation where the Cubs tell Alfonso Soriano to just go away. Just please go and never come back. I'm sure you're an okay guy and all, and you berry lucky to play the baseball, but just not here anymore.
I'd rather have Soriano's money in the bank, but seeing as that's not going to happen whichever way this goes, I'm fine with Soriano where he is. It's not like he's dogging it, and it's not his fault Jim Hendry was a dribbling idiot, is it? If you can trade him for useful parts, great, and if you can't, well, never mind.
I don't know what the fuck's wrong with me at the moment. I'm being all tolerant and shit.
Quote from: Tonker on May 15, 2012, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
I really wish there were some magical situation where the Cubs tell Alfonso Soriano to just go away. Just please go and never come back. I'm sure you're an okay guy and all, and you berry lucky to play the baseball, but just not here anymore.
I'd rather have Soriano's money in the bank, but seeing as that's not going to happen whichever way this goes, I'm fine with Soriano where he is. It's not like he's dogging it, and it's not his fault Jim Hendry was a dribbling idiot, is it? If you can trade him for useful parts, great, and if you can't, well, never mind.
I don't know what the fuck's wrong with me at the moment. I'm being all tolerant and shit.
Plus getting rid of Soriano at any cost right now means the clamoring for Rizzo from the mass of idiots who hadn't even heard of him 6 months ago when Rizzo is perfectly fine hitting the snot out of the ball in the sticks (which he's not doing as insanely as he was in April anyway--all the more reason to chill) intensifies, making our collective sacks itch. Yeah, so they've got an 18 million dollar singles hitter in left. They'd suck right now as much without him. They're winning games and besides--every time Soriano does as little as bloop a flair for an RBI single we'll always have FYC.
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 15, 2012, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
I really wish there were some magical situation where the Cubs tell Alfonso Soriano to just go away. Just please go and never come back. I'm sure you're an okay guy and all, and you berry lucky to play the baseball, but just not here anymore.
I'd rather have Soriano's money in the bank, but seeing as that's not going to happen whichever way this goes, I'm fine with Soriano where he is. It's not like he's dogging it, and it's not his fault Jim Hendry was a dribbling idiot, is it? If you can trade him for useful parts, great, and if you can't, well, never mind.
I don't know what the fuck's wrong with me at the moment. I'm being all tolerant and shit.
Plus getting rid of Soriano at any cost right now means the clamoring for Rizzo from the mass of idiots who hadn't even heard of him 6 months ago when Rizzo is perfectly fine hitting the snot out of the ball in the sticks (which he's not doing as insanely as he was in April anyway--all the more reason to chill) intensifies, making our collective sacks itch. Yeah, so they've got an 18 million dollar singles hitter in left. They'd suck right now as much without him. They're winning games and besides--every time Soriano does as little as bloop a flair for an RBI single we'll always have FYC.
I think if they manage to trade Soriano for a useful player (and anyone notice Kap was throwing around an inane idea like swapping Soriano for Beckett yesterday), it's an FYC.
Quote from: Brownie on May 15, 2012, 11:21:48 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 15, 2012, 11:14:35 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:10:48 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
I really wish there were some magical situation where the Cubs tell Alfonso Soriano to just go away. Just please go and never come back. I'm sure you're an okay guy and all, and you berry lucky to play the baseball, but just not here anymore.
I'd rather have Soriano's money in the bank, but seeing as that's not going to happen whichever way this goes, I'm fine with Soriano where he is. It's not like he's dogging it, and it's not his fault Jim Hendry was a dribbling idiot, is it? If you can trade him for useful parts, great, and if you can't, well, never mind.
I don't know what the fuck's wrong with me at the moment. I'm being all tolerant and shit.
Plus getting rid of Soriano at any cost right now means the clamoring for Rizzo from the mass of idiots who hadn't even heard of him 6 months ago when Rizzo is perfectly fine hitting the snot out of the ball in the sticks (which he's not doing as insanely as he was in April anyway--all the more reason to chill) intensifies, making our collective sacks itch. Yeah, so they've got an 18 million dollar singles hitter in left. They'd suck right now as much without him. They're winning games and besides--every time Soriano does as little as bloop a flair for an RBI single we'll always have FYC.
I think if they manage to trade Soriano for a useful player (and anyone notice Kap was throwing around an inane idea like swapping Soriano for Beckett yesterday), it's an FYC.
My favorite part about not paying attention to the Cubs is not paying attention to Kap.
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Plus getting rid of Soriano at any cost right now means the clamoring for Rizzo from the mass of idiots who hadn't even heard of him 6 months ago when Rizzo is perfectly fine hitting the snot out of the ball in the sticks (which he's not doing as insanely as he was in April anyway--all the more reason to chill) intensifies, making our collective sacks itch. Yeah, so they've got an 18 million dollar singles hitter in left. They'd suck right now as much without him. They're winning games and besides--every time Soriano does as little as bloop a flair for an RBI single we'll always have FYC.
Nah, I'm not so much clamoring for Rizzo as I am clamoring for no Soriano. I know it might be unrealistic to expect the Cubs to make good on a deal for him, but at this point I would rather no Soriano that having Soriano. As far as Rizzo, I trust TheoJed know what they are doing with him.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Plus getting rid of Soriano at any cost right now means the clamoring for Rizzo from the mass of idiots who hadn't even heard of him 6 months ago when Rizzo is perfectly fine hitting the snot out of the ball in the sticks (which he's not doing as insanely as he was in April anyway--all the more reason to chill) intensifies, making our collective sacks itch. Yeah, so they've got an 18 million dollar singles hitter in left. They'd suck right now as much without him. They're winning games and besides--every time Soriano does as little as bloop a flair for an RBI single we'll always have FYC.
Nah, I'm not so much clamoring for Rizzo as I am clamoring for no Soriano. I know it might be unrealistic to expect the Cubs to make good on a deal for him, but at this point I would rather no Soriano that having Soriano. As far as Rizzo, I trust TheoJed know what they are doing with him.
Huey's just pissed because when Rizzo comes up, Lahair would take an OF spot, leaving even less room for Ryan Harvey, and Huey's left-to-right JO vortex will be crushed.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Plus getting rid of Soriano at any cost right now means the clamoring for Rizzo from the mass of idiots who hadn't even heard of him 6 months ago when Rizzo is perfectly fine hitting the snot out of the ball in the sticks (which he's not doing as insanely as he was in April anyway--all the more reason to chill) intensifies, making our collective sacks itch. Yeah, so they've got an 18 million dollar singles hitter in left. They'd suck right now as much without him. They're winning games and besides--every time Soriano does as little as bloop a flair for an RBI single we'll always have FYC.
Nah, I'm not so much clamoring for Rizzo as I am clamoring for no Soriano. I know it might be unrealistic to expect the Cubs to make good on a deal for him, but at this point I would rather no Soriano that having Soriano. As far as Rizzo, I trust TheoJed know what they are doing with him.
I am indifferent to Soriano. When he signed, I knew it was going to be an albatross by now. However, Hendry turned Todd Hundley into Eric Karros and Mark Grudzielanek, two serviceable players. I will continue to hope for the same with Soriano.
Quote from: BH on May 15, 2012, 11:52:36 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 11:19:11 AM
Plus getting rid of Soriano at any cost right now means the clamoring for Rizzo from the mass of idiots who hadn't even heard of him 6 months ago when Rizzo is perfectly fine hitting the snot out of the ball in the sticks (which he's not doing as insanely as he was in April anyway--all the more reason to chill) intensifies, making our collective sacks itch. Yeah, so they've got an 18 million dollar singles hitter in left. They'd suck right now as much without him. They're winning games and besides--every time Soriano does as little as bloop a flair for an RBI single we'll always have FYC.
Nah, I'm not so much clamoring for Rizzo as I am clamoring for no Soriano. I know it might be unrealistic to expect the Cubs to make good on a deal for him, but at this point I would rather no Soriano that having Soriano. As far as Rizzo, I trust TheoJed know what they are doing with him.
Huey's just pissed because when Rizzo comes up, Lahair would take an OF spot, leaving even less room for Ryan Harvey, and Huey's left-to-right JO vortex will be crushed.
Or you could talk about the Cubs...
SPORTZ
Quote from: Brownie on May 15, 2012, 11:53:35 AM
I am indifferent to Soriano. When he signed, I knew it was going to be an albatross by now. However, Hendry turned Todd Hundley into Eric Karros and Mark Grudzielanek, two serviceable players. I will continue to hope for the same with Soriano.
We all knew it was going to be an awful contract. I guess I want to know that he will be gone and soon. He just doesn't fit in what this club is doing. I know the front office knows that, I'm just tired of seeing Soriano in the middle of the lineup hitting balls of the end of the bat or striking out.
To BH's point about LaHair to the OF, do the Cubs even keep him? I mean, I love what he's doing, but he just may inflate his value so much that it would be hard for the Cubs not to trade him. He is a 29 year old rookie, after all, and I guess you never know how much another GM will overpay for one half year of awesome.
ETA: The Cubs signed Mike MacDougal to a minor league deal. Championship.
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
I realizes this pushes the Big Picture plan back to Chuck's 2014 (and I hate to miss out on a good dogpile on Chuck) but really--just because they can compete for the Short Bus Central doesn't mean they're really ready to do some serious shit soon, does it? With those contracts? If they can rid themsleves of some of those deals by next April, then sure but otherwise I'd be surprised if they were legit as soon as next year.
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
Only $35 M committed in 2013? Hamelston gonna hai.
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
I realizes this pushes the Big Picture plan back to Chuck's 2014 (and I hate to miss out on a good dogpile on Chuck) but really--just because they can compete for the Short Bus Central doesn't mean they're really ready to do some serious shit soon, does it? With those contracts? If they can rid themsleves of some of those deals by next April, then sure but otherwise I'd be surprised if they were legit as soon as next year.
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
Yeah... "Those contracts" more or less means Soriano and Marmol, right?
I mostly see a lot of one year deals with the occasional club option. (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=140) And DeJesus through 2014. But we don't hate
him yet, do we?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:58:57 AM
We all knew it was going to be an awful contract.
I think a lot of the reaction around here was "IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY, WHY DO YOU CARE HOW MUCH HIS CONTRACT IS?"
So, that was stupid.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:58:57 AM
To BH's point about LaHair to the OF, do the Cubs even keep him? I mean, I love what he's doing, but he just may inflate his value so much that it would be hard for the Cubs not to trade him. He is a 29 year old rookie, after all, and I guess you never know how much another GM will overpay for one half year of awesome.
This is the stuff of which made for TV movies are made.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:58:57 AM
To BH's point about LaHair to the OF, do the Cubs even keep him? I mean, I love what he's doing, but he just may inflate his value so much that it would be hard for the Cubs not to trade him. He is a 29 year old rookie, after all, and I guess you never know how much another GM will overpay for one half year of awesome.
At some point, pitchers will stop throwing him fastballs. I'd like to see that happen while he's plying his trade elsewhere.
Quote from: Brownie on May 15, 2012, 11:21:48 AM
I think if they manage to trade Soriano for a useful player (and anyone notice Kap was throwing around an inane idea like swapping Soriano for Beckett yesterday), it's an FYC.
So, Soriano leaving, which I've been clamoring for since about game 30 of his tenure would be an FYC?
The way you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Quote from: Fork on May 15, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:58:57 AM
To BH's point about LaHair to the OF, do the Cubs even keep him? I mean, I love what he's doing, but he just may inflate his value so much that it would be hard for the Cubs not to trade him. He is a 29 year old rookie, after all, and I guess you never know how much another GM will overpay for one half year of awesome.
At some point, pitchers will stop throwing him fastballs. I'd like to see that happen while he's plying his trade elsewhere.
How about May 2012?
Per PitchFX data... (http://pitchfx.texasleaguers.com/batter/445933/)
2012:
Strike Swing Whiff Foul In Play
FF 116 22.9% 61.2% 49.1% 12.1% 21.6% 15.5%
CU 83 16.4% 65.1% 41.0% 19.3% 12.0% 9.6%
SL 75 14.8% 64.0% 44.0% 10.7% 20.0% 13.3%
SI 63 12.5% 54.0% 34.9% 11.1% 14.3% 9.5%
FT 56 11.1% 62.5% 48.2% 10.7% 23.2% 14.3%
CH 53 10.5% 56.6% 47.2% 11.3% 15.1% 20.8%
FC 46 9.1% 60.9% 34.8% 4.3% 17.4% 13.0%
FS 14 2.8% 78.6% 71.4% 42.9% 21.4% 7.1%April:
Strike Swing Whiff Foul In Play
FF 76 26.2% 61.8% 48.7% 13.2% 21.1% 14.5%
SI 38 13.1% 57.9% 36.8% 13.2% 15.8% 7.9%
SL 37 12.8% 70.3% 45.9% 13.5% 18.9% 13.5%
CU 35 12.1% 60.0% 45.7% 25.7% 17.1% 2.9%
FC 30 10.3% 63.3% 40.0% 3.3% 23.3% 13.3%
CH 30 10.3% 53.3% 43.3% 16.7% 10.0% 16.7%
FT 30 10.3% 66.7% 53.3% 16.7% 23.3% 13.3%
FS 14 4.8% 78.6% 71.4% 42.9% 21.4% 7.1%May:
Strike Swing Whiff Foul In Play
CU 48 22.2% 68.8% 37.5% 14.6% 8.3% 14.6%
FF 40 18.5% 60.0% 50.0% 10.0% 22.5% 17.5%
SL 38 17.6% 57.9% 42.1% 7.9% 21.1% 13.2%
FT 26 12.0% 57.7% 42.3% 3.8% 23.1% 15.4%
SI 25 11.6% 48.0% 32.0% 8.0% 12.0% 12.0%
CH 23 10.6% 60.9% 52.2% 4.3% 21.7% 26.1%
FC 16 7.4% 56.3% 25.0% 6.3% 6.3% 12.5%FF = 4-seam Fastball
FT = 2-seam Fastball
FC = Cut Fastball
FS = Split-finger Fastball
SI = Sinker
SL = Slider
CU = Curveball
CH = Change-up
Apparently LaHair, unlike Jesus Christ, can hit a breaking pitch.
And the results... (http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5462)
Split BB% K% BB/K AVG OBP SLG OPS BABIP
2012 15.3% 29.0% 0.53 .356 .452 .702 1.154 .467
Apr 14.3% 35.7% 0.40 .390 .471 .780 1.251 .600
May 16.7% 20.4% 0.82 .311 .426 .600 1.026 .333
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 15, 2012, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 15, 2012, 12:36:39 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 15, 2012, 11:58:57 AM
To BH's point about LaHair to the OF, do the Cubs even keep him? I mean, I love what he's doing, but he just may inflate his value so much that it would be hard for the Cubs not to trade him. He is a 29 year old rookie, after all, and I guess you never know how much another GM will overpay for one half year of awesome.
At some point, pitchers will stop throwing him fastballs. I'd like to see that happen while he's plying his trade elsewhere.
How about May 2012?
Per PitchFX data... (http://pitchfx.texasleaguers.com/batter/445933/)
2012:
Strike Swing Whiff Foul In Play
FF 116 22.9% 61.2% 49.1% 12.1% 21.6% 15.5%
CU 83 16.4% 65.1% 41.0% 19.3% 12.0% 9.6%
SL 75 14.8% 64.0% 44.0% 10.7% 20.0% 13.3%
SI 63 12.5% 54.0% 34.9% 11.1% 14.3% 9.5%
FT 56 11.1% 62.5% 48.2% 10.7% 23.2% 14.3%
CH 53 10.5% 56.6% 47.2% 11.3% 15.1% 20.8%
FC 46 9.1% 60.9% 34.8% 4.3% 17.4% 13.0%
FS 14 2.8% 78.6% 71.4% 42.9% 21.4% 7.1%
April:
Strike Swing Whiff Foul In Play
FF 76 26.2% 61.8% 48.7% 13.2% 21.1% 14.5%
SI 38 13.1% 57.9% 36.8% 13.2% 15.8% 7.9%
SL 37 12.8% 70.3% 45.9% 13.5% 18.9% 13.5%
CU 35 12.1% 60.0% 45.7% 25.7% 17.1% 2.9%
FC 30 10.3% 63.3% 40.0% 3.3% 23.3% 13.3%
CH 30 10.3% 53.3% 43.3% 16.7% 10.0% 16.7%
FT 30 10.3% 66.7% 53.3% 16.7% 23.3% 13.3%
FS 14 4.8% 78.6% 71.4% 42.9% 21.4% 7.1%
May:
Strike Swing Whiff Foul In Play
CU 48 22.2% 68.8% 37.5% 14.6% 8.3% 14.6%
FF 40 18.5% 60.0% 50.0% 10.0% 22.5% 17.5%
SL 38 17.6% 57.9% 42.1% 7.9% 21.1% 13.2%
FT 26 12.0% 57.7% 42.3% 3.8% 23.1% 15.4%
SI 25 11.6% 48.0% 32.0% 8.0% 12.0% 12.0%
CH 23 10.6% 60.9% 52.2% 4.3% 21.7% 26.1%
FC 16 7.4% 56.3% 25.0% 6.3% 6.3% 12.5%
FF = 4-seam Fastball
FT = 2-seam Fastball
FC = Cut Fastball
FS = Split-finger Fastball
SI = Sinker
SL = Slider
CU = Curveball
CH = Change-up
Apparently LaHair, unlike Jesus Christ, can hit a breaking pitch.
And the results... (http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=5462)
Split BB% K% BB/K AVG OBP SLG OPS BABIP
2012 15.3% 29.0% 0.53 .356 .452 .702 1.154 .467
Apr 14.3% 35.7% 0.40 .390 .471 .780 1.251 .600
May 16.7% 20.4% 0.82 .311 .426 .600 1.026 .333
Yeah, but ...
Someone just tell me how many awesome LaHair plate appearances I need to see before I can buy his shersey with pride.
Quote from: SKO on May 15, 2012, 02:02:33 PM
Someone just tell me how many awesome LaHair plate appearances I need to see before I can buy his shersey with pride.
Intrepid Reader: Former voice of the Montgomery Biscuits, Jim Tocco (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Tocco)100 games. (http://www.desipio.com/?p=208)
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 15, 2012, 01:12:15 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 15, 2012, 11:21:48 AM
I think if they manage to trade Soriano for a useful player (and anyone notice Kap was throwing around an inane idea like swapping Soriano for Beckett yesterday), it's an FYC.
So, Soriano leaving, which I've been clamoring for since about game 30 of his tenure would be an FYC?
The way you keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
No, Chuck.
Quote from: SKO on May 15, 2012, 02:02:33 PM
Someone just tell me how many awesome LaHair plate appearances I need to see before I can buy his shersey with pride.
A new shersey? Must be wedding season in Iowa.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 15, 2012, 12:05:06 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2012, 11:00:17 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 15, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
I realizes this pushes the Big Picture plan back to Chuck's 2014 (and I hate to miss out on a good dogpile on Chuck) but really--just because they can compete for the Short Bus Central doesn't mean they're really ready to do some serious shit soon, does it? With those contracts? If they can rid themsleves of some of those deals by next April, then sure but otherwise I'd be surprised if they were legit as soon as next year.
The Cardinals have won two titles simply by competing in the Short Bus Central. Make the playoffs and that's all that matters.
And the contracts aren't too unmanageable. Here's (https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tt7HjIernphaSrv4wMWdUYg&output=html) how their commitments break down in coming years.
Yeah... "Those contracts" more or less means Soriano and Marmol, right?
I mostly see a lot of one year deals with the occasional club option. (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/compensation/cots/?page_id=140) And DeJesus through 2014. But we don't hate him yet, do we?
Not as long as he stays married.
(http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kimberly-dejesus-hot.jpg)
Quote from: Armchair_QB on May 15, 2012, 09:52:23 PM
Not as long as he stays married.
(http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kimberly-dejesus-hot.jpg)
David DeJesus is an American hero.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Ivychat/DeJesus.png)
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 16, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Ivychat/DeJesus.png)
Eh?
Quote from: Brownie on May 16, 2012, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 16, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Ivychat/DeJesus.png)
Eh?
It's either his minor league uniform or it has something to do with comic books. Or maybe The Simpsons.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 16, 2012, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 16, 2012, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 16, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Ivychat/DeJesus.png)
Eh?
It's either his minor league uniform or it has something to do with comic books. Or maybe The Simpsons.
I'm guessing it's an NPB logo of some sort.
This is someone calling Bryan "Micah".
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 16, 2012, 11:57:31 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 16, 2012, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 16, 2012, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 16, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Ivychat/DeJesus.png)
Eh?
It's either his minor league uniform or it has something to do with comic books. Or maybe The Simpsons.
I'm guessing it's an NPB logo of some sort.
This is someone calling Bryan "Micah".
So a picture of David DeJesus is a veiled reference to Bryan LaHair? Could be. We're getting warmer, I think.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 16, 2012, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 16, 2012, 11:57:31 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 16, 2012, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 16, 2012, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 16, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Ivychat/DeJesus.png)
Eh?
It's either his minor league uniform or it has something to do with comic books. Or maybe The Simpsons.
I'm guessing it's an NPB logo of some sort.
This is someone calling Bryan "Micah".
So a picture of David DeJesus is a veiled reference to Bryan LaHair? Could be. We're getting warmer, I think.
Or it could be that I'm a retard.
Google reverse image search (https://www.google.com/search?tbs=sbi:AMhZZiuCxyLlqHs5jSXEuBp7LoTeiOQV3YUcSEnhZPhk7UjG9RRL1RTUP9CzCFfoQfX84lsAFmzGeptGE-tmQ5GVIFdldLpMjSlkI5Bbmv-un6ot2N_1JZEDuV3U6FSwRS0_1RHdhJFa-oTBguB2F0XNzE40JjDmhHIkYtkctjoI2c0UDmzONYUVj7xvDWJuiupPVAIi2z8_1hzDjU2EvJkwOoOgUSJr6ZWWWefJkRPuUEcpJCwytflDmDzwdE8YIIb75tN5u4M4Bp50-_18d4TbwWModgk55SKUwIPHdrcUc15_1GPnGu5pUw1-kfYTMSTbeN01bhjArZY-ErOVKYtuunROuEVwQTMtFlifAWPswY5Pv5GY90TtoURFG4se6mnEJYmcRiNpJul28afNrF0qY52EU11o_1uHw_1GViB4YEg3ggbhYNWkiOvbfoabJvdUL5E8OstY0eUSrBUzCwe9OGxiviKEN81XXcrVfCgNljGyDGRhUFJR2As-0EnVpeRi3PWeJQ4DtxmrwWdT79UDRKh2Ba4K_1Sutn07T-0nlEnwXaLLl7T1Hi2KfxVs2nyWwBi5grSDjpCmfmHRodBRo7S38v0euf05UHqscx6dla2pb429bsBX4hIOLSwds0XkeBTjTjgGL6tkSQxdv-Z3ifFTkAO0l1ksXDPwuzw40n2qIsHYtH8OYJgIEa5vgxbOcM3t2rtWEs0hLJ4Xs9wxkk1VRQPX4WQ7Fay7XZRuyGHCGzS1dUnJvL_1ZiDVvAT8SjnXspHa4odZk5mG8gKCtq0gJLLyswZzkGe4XEU-CtVok0b2oUlrC0Es9iUhC7IlR3qrMCf-F7Jp7VVKl5b2SbOYvz9co2qNbMyUHEZvv6TUvSF626e9Pfl6OAEwNjfrIREXN_1GzQPNEkYVri72D9juUdvFBexkDOpDCiO1WJfljVngLHpy7n0sql8rFnK4WS-pnamg2SxTgPaB7dz0jNPSIgtjIOgJ5elz7iMmVqRMRJjGwF4egyOwHhrI-Hwn_1iQbowFtTpaUZ2zhfz9HgUBcqha6Nia9rDbX4pfewXxef8lyP3Fhmuz0vmZzVunLM8rsGI8s96tHFO3CINzrG_1CcGIfNX-RH7zXurWR-_1uoy5kFxSvue2Y6MKFleBoCTZTmPHQEgyNmWV64Aovx2yNsNrQ4pgglJT_1MczO92rdq6u954oXPCTPV6t2pG2Ud49WWDr2T8cO6FxFl4oLwH5r87AwoA0M2UrRp1PqSjZ6bGrEdbAfOP1XKPGOf3SPcK3y38kGKf7FSZ68XRWkS7UxGOea5Pdzc7B2psvfOyWxzrt3j-jTTK8PxskKXYhcfYBb6OeL3LfHeXAVJTXneuZVf-aWuGHjyHSwwI-13mrs5BV_1UzVtRH4QNFBLVEQ&num=10&hl=en&safe=off&bih=708&biw=1058) says:
QuoteBest guess for this image: greatest american hero
Now I get this Chuck Gittles photoshop. Thank you, Google!
(http://i.imgur.com/YlkZl.jpg)
TPD.
No, Chuck.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 16, 2012, 12:21:20 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 16, 2012, 12:14:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 16, 2012, 11:57:31 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 16, 2012, 10:17:31 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 16, 2012, 09:58:07 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 16, 2012, 08:57:12 AM
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y180/Ivychat/DeJesus.png)
Eh?
It's either his minor league uniform or it has something to do with comic books. Or maybe The Simpsons.
I'm guessing it's an NPB logo of some sort.
This is someone calling Bryan "Micah".
So a picture of David DeJesus is a veiled reference to Bryan LaHair? Could be. We're getting warmer, I think.
Or it could be that I'm a retard.
...go on...
That Chuckshop succeeded at one thing: I've now got the outgoing message from George Costanza's answering machine stuck in my head.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 16, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
That Chuckshop succeeded at one thing: I've now got the outgoing message from George Costanza's answering machine stuck in my head.
I think that you have him confused with Art Vandelay, the import-exporter.
Quote from: CBStew on May 16, 2012, 12:46:47 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 16, 2012, 12:39:52 PM
That Chuckshop succeeded at one thing: I've now got the outgoing message from George Costanza's answering machine stuck in my head.
I think that you have him confused with Art Vandelay, the import-exporter.
http://youtu.be/ria37d9mInY
I don't get this Chuckshop at all.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on May 15, 2012, 09:52:23 PM
Not as long as he stays married.
(http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kimberly-dejesus-hot.jpg)
Thought this page would benefit from having this pic on it too.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on May 16, 2012, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on May 15, 2012, 09:52:23 PM
Not as long as he stays married.
(http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kimberly-dejesus-hot.jpg)
Thought this page would benefit from having this pic on it too.
Thanks for resetting the thread, Armchair.
Fuck the Cubs bullpen, cripes.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 17, 2012, 10:06:59 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on May 16, 2012, 05:13:20 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on May 15, 2012, 09:52:23 PM
Not as long as he stays married.
(http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/kimberly-dejesus-hot.jpg)
Thought this page would benefit from having this pic on it too.
Thanks for resetting the thread, Armchair.
Fuck the Cubs bullpen, cripes.
I agree. I've decided to watch the games only until the 7th inning and let the deserved wins pile up. Go Kubbeez.
Wow! Did you see this new catcher for the Cubs? Someone named K. Hill. Looks like he has a lot of promise.
Quote from: CBStew on May 20, 2012, 10:11:17 AM
Wow! Did you see this new catcher for the Cubs? Someone named K. Hill. Looks like he has a lot of promise.
Koyie just gave you the finger. Actually.
Went to the game today with my parents and my son, who was wearing a really cute little Cubs outfit. My son likes to clap his hands and yell "yay", especially when the people around him are doing so. Hence the cute little kid in the Cubs uniform cheering on the White Sox.
Quote from: smg on May 20, 2012, 09:13:38 PM
Went to the game today with my parents and my son, who was wearing a really cute little Cubs outfit. My son likes to clap his hands and yell "yay", especially when the people around him are doing so. Hence the cute little kid in the Cubs uniform cheering on the White Sox.
Just keep an eye on him. Don't want him getting early-onset mulletosis.
QuoteCubs manager Dale Sveum said he will talk to team president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer about the possibility of bringing Anthony Rizzo up in June.
LLFR1B?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 10:09:10 AM
QuoteCubs manager Dale Sveum said he will talk to team president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer about the possibility of bringing Anthony Rizzo up in June.
LLFR1B?
So then Soriano sits while LaHair plays left? They platoon?
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 10:09:10 AM
QuoteCubs manager Dale Sveum said he will talk to team president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer about the possibility of bringing Anthony Rizzo up in June.
LLFR1B?
So then Soriano sits while LaHair plays left? They platoon?
I suppose that Soriano could DH for those few interleague games that month. Or he could play second base again?!?!? (No.)
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 21, 2012, 10:20:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 10:17:58 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 10:09:10 AM
QuoteCubs manager Dale Sveum said he will talk to team president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer about the possibility of bringing Anthony Rizzo up in June.
LLFR1B?
So then Soriano sits while LaHair plays left? They platoon?
I suppose that Soriano could DH for those few interleague games that month. Or he could play second base again?!?!? (No.)
I'd rather watch Fonzie cover the keystone than I would Darwin Barney get another 250 plate appearances. At least with Fonize at second, hilarity might ensue instead of just popfly badness.
DPD. Not saying they should force the issue here by calling up Rizzo now anyway, but just for whenever they decide to do that.
Am I going to have to start a really annoying Darwin Barney fan club or something? He makes like $12 a year and is completely serviceable as a major league player. No, he shouldn't be a starter on a World Series caliber team but he's a useful piece.
Quote from: Eli on May 21, 2012, 10:34:24 AM
but he's a useful piece.
OF SHIT, says someone here.
Quote from: Eli on May 21, 2012, 10:34:24 AM
Am I going to have to start a really annoying Darwin Barney fan club or something? He makes like $12 a year and is completely serviceable as a major league player. No, he shouldn't be a starter on a World Series caliber team but he's a useful piece.
Fine.
I'd still rather watch Soriano at second though.
QuoteCubs manager Dale Sveum said he will talk to team president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer about the possibility of bringing Anthony Rizzo up in June.
The team is on pace to lose 103 games and people are worried about who will DH for 6 games in June?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 21, 2012, 10:40:08 AM
QuoteCubs manager Dale Sveum said he will talk to team president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer about the possibility of bringing Anthony Rizzo up in June.
The team is on pace to lose 103 games and people are worried about who will DH for 6 games in June?
Would ignoring the issue make them win more games?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 21, 2012, 10:40:08 AM
QuoteCubs manager Dale Sveum said he will talk to team president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer about the possibility of bringing Anthony Rizzo up in June.
The team is on pace to lose 103 games and people are worried about who will DH for 6 games in June?
Let me try this for the first time.
No, Chuck.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 10:48:01 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 21, 2012, 10:40:08 AM
QuoteCubs manager Dale Sveum said he will talk to team president Theo Epstein and general manager Jed Hoyer about the possibility of bringing Anthony Rizzo up in June.
The team is on pace to lose 103 games and people are worried about who will DH for 6 games in June?
Let me try this for the first time.
No, Chuck.
So, no one is worried. Makes sense. Or something.
Were it up to me, I'd keep Rizzo down just because I don't really see where he plays.
Eli is right: Barney is cheap and should be playing. He's not the reason the team sucks and since they do suck, why move him around? I don't like Barney on a contending team either but he isn't killing the Cubs.
I just don't get bringing up Rizzo unless there's a significant injury to LaHair or Soriano.
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 10:52:55 AM
Were it up to me, I'd keep Rizzo down just because I don't really see where he plays.
Eli is right: Barney is cheap and should be playing. He's not the reason the team sucks and since they do suck, why move him around? I don't like Barney on a contending team either but he isn't killing the Cubs.
I just don't get bringing up Rizzo unless there's a significant injury to LaHair or Soriano.
But, if they suck, why not let Rizzo face some major league pitching? Who gives a fuck where Soriano plays or not plays?
I don't hate Barney but I am completely indifferent towards him. If he's the starting 2B in 2014 (or next year if you're under the mindset that there's little reason The Cubs shouldn't compete in 2013), then fuck Jed Hoyer with Theo Epstink's dickstink. Or something.
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2012, 11:03:37 AM
But, if they suck, why not let Rizzo face some major league pitching? Who gives a fuck where Soriano plays or not plays?
I don't hate Barney but I am completely indifferent towards him. If he's the starting 2B in 2014 (or next year if you're under the mindset that there's little reason The Cubs shouldn't compete in 2013), then fuck Jed Hoyer with Theo Epstink's dickstink. Or something.
I agree with Oleg on Rizzon here. I think what Sveum is saying is he would rather have Rizzo and LaHair in his lineup than Soriano and LaHair. I guess the question is what do they do with Soriano? Waivers and eat salaray? Bench? RF and trade DeJesus?
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2012, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 10:52:55 AM
Were it up to me, I'd keep Rizzo down just because I don't really see where he plays.
Eli is right: Barney is cheap and should be playing. He's not the reason the team sucks and since they do suck, why move him around? I don't like Barney on a contending team either but he isn't killing the Cubs.
I just don't get bringing up Rizzo unless there's a significant injury to LaHair or Soriano.
But, if they suck, why not let Rizzo face some major league pitching? Who gives a fuck where Soriano plays or not plays?
I don't hate Barney but I am completely indifferent towards him. If he's the starting 2B in 2014 (or next year if you're under the mindset that there's little reason The Cubs shouldn't compete in 2013), then fuck Jed Hoyer with Theo Epstink's dickstink. Or something.
Maybe part of it is that I just don't buy into the Rizzo hype. Yeah, he's killing PCL pitching. Congrats.
I guess they can call him up and bench Soriano and let LaHair chase his tail in left. Then we can find out that Rizzo is Italian for Adam LaRoche which is French for average first baseman who will play for 8 teams before he retires.
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 11:15:55 AM
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2012, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 10:52:55 AM
Were it up to me, I'd keep Rizzo down just because I don't really see where he plays.
Eli is right: Barney is cheap and should be playing. He's not the reason the team sucks and since they do suck, why move him around? I don't like Barney on a contending team either but he isn't killing the Cubs.
I just don't get bringing up Rizzo unless there's a significant injury to LaHair or Soriano.
But, if they suck, why not let Rizzo face some major league pitching? Who gives a fuck where Soriano plays or not plays?
I don't hate Barney but I am completely indifferent towards him. If he's the starting 2B in 2014 (or next year if you're under the mindset that there's little reason The Cubs shouldn't compete in 2013), then fuck Jed Hoyer with Theo Epstink's dickstink. Or something.
Maybe part of it is that I just don't buy into the Rizzo hype. Yeah, he's killing PCL pitching. Congrats.
I guess they can call him up and bench Soriano and let LaHair chase his tail in left. Then we can find out that Rizzo is Italian for Adam LaRoche which is French for average first baseman who will play for 8 teams before he retires.
Rizzo is great at hitting right handed pitching, he's awful at left handed pitching.
Would be nice to see him figure that out in the minors, before risking calling him up, then using him to try to sell tickets,
win games that don't mean anything.
Quote from: BH on May 21, 2012, 11:36:48 AM
Rizzo is great at hitting right handed pitching, he's awful at left handed pitching.
Would be nice to see him figure that out in the minors, before risking calling him up, then using him to try to sell tickets,
win games that don't mean anything.
I'm convinced that @horse_ebooks is ghost-writing your posts. Or at the least, I entertain myself by reading them that way.
This is all wasted energy. Soriano will be hurt by mid-June anyway. Hopefully either LaHair or Rizzo can play left without spiking himself.
Don't they have to wait until June 21st (or somewhere around there) so he doesn't get another year of service in? It would be leotarded to to call him up a few days before then so he can DH a couple games.
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2012, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 10:52:55 AM
Were it up to me, I'd keep Rizzo down just because I don't really see where he plays.
Eli is right: Barney is cheap and should be playing. He's not the reason the team sucks and since they do suck, why move him around? I don't like Barney on a contending team either but he isn't killing the Cubs.
I just don't get bringing up Rizzo unless there's a significant injury to LaHair or Soriano.
But, if they suck, why not let Rizzo face some major league pitching? Who gives a fuck where Soriano plays or not plays?
I don't hate Barney but I am completely indifferent towards him. If he's the starting 2B in 2014 (or next year if you're under the mindset that there's little reason The Cubs shouldn't compete in 2013), then fuck Jed Hoyer with Theo Epstink's dickstink. Or something.
I for one do not give a fuck where Soriano not plays.
Quote from: Fork on May 21, 2012, 11:51:46 AM
This is all wasted energy. Soriano will be hurt by mid-June anyway. Hopefully either LaHair or Rizzo can play left without spiking himself.
FORK IS RIGHT!!!
Quote from: BH on May 21, 2012, 11:36:48 AM
Rizzo is great at hitting right handed pitching, he's awful at left handed pitching.
Vs. Lefties: .298/353/.574/.927 with 4 of his 14 homers. (29% of his homers in 30% of his at bats)
Well, he may be awful, but he's not awful, awful.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 21, 2012, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: BH on May 21, 2012, 11:36:48 AM
Rizzo is great at hitting right handed pitching, he's awful at left handed pitching.
Vs. Lefties: .298/353/.574/.927 with 4 of his 14 homers. (29% of his homers in 30% of his at bats)
Well, he may be awful, but he's not awful, awful.
He meant Rizzo is a bad left handed pitcher. Which I'm sure is true.
My guess is that Soriano will be released this offseason (or maybe earlier) if he can't be traded in July for something slightly better than nothing. So I don't have any beef with letting him play for another 6 weeks or so on the 2% chance he continues to hit and convinces some mongoloid GM to trade for him. At this point it's as enjoyable to see Slaky's retweets of Rizzo's mammoth PCL blasts as it is to watch the actual Cubs. The sooner they call him up, the sooner that will be taken away from me and Rizzo and all of us will be dongslapped in the face with the cold reality of MLB pitching.
Quote from: R-V on May 21, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
My guess is that Soriano will be released this offseason (or maybe earlier) if he can't be traded in July for something slightly better than nothing. So I don't have any beef with letting him play for another 6 weeks or so on the 2% chance he continues to hit and convinces some mongoloid GM to trade for him. At this point it's as enjoyable to see Slaky's retweets of Rizzo's mammoth PCL blasts as it is to watch the actual Cubs. The sooner they call him up, the sooner that will be taken away from me and Rizzo and all of us will be dongslapped in the face with the cold reality of MLB pitching.
Or, Theo can put him on irrevocable waivers and hope some GM puts a claim on him out of fear that a divisional opponent like Detroit or Cleveland would grab him. Then again, no one's is that dumb, right? (http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Oops-White-Sox-make-60-million-waiver-claim-o?urn=mlb,181984)
Ice-cold yangwhip. Horrifying.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 21, 2012, 01:32:27 PM
Quote from: BH on May 21, 2012, 11:36:48 AM
Rizzo is great at hitting right handed pitching, he's awful at left handed pitching.
Vs. Lefties: .298/353/.574/.927 with 4 of his 14 homers. (29% of his homers in 30% of his at bats)
Well, he may be awful, but he's not awful, awful.
You're right, he really must have picked up it since May 9th, when he was hitting .257/.297/.429 vs. LHPs, 11 Ks in 35 AB
Quote from: R-V on May 21, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
My guess is that Soriano will be released this offseason (or maybe earlier) if he can't be traded in July for something slightly better than nothing. So I don't have any beef with letting him play for another 6 weeks or so on the 2% chance he continues to hit and convinces some mongoloid GM to trade for him. At this point it's as enjoyable to see Slaky's retweets of Rizzo's mammoth PCL blasts as it is to watch the actual Cubs. The sooner they call him up, the sooner that will be taken away from me and Rizzo and all of us will be dongslapped in the face with the cold reality of MLB pitching.
Wait, someone is tweeting Rizzo's bombs?!?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 21, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
My guess is that Soriano will be released this offseason (or maybe earlier) if he can't be traded in July for something slightly better than nothing. So I don't have any beef with letting him play for another 6 weeks or so on the 2% chance he continues to hit and convinces some mongoloid GM to trade for him. At this point it's as enjoyable to see Slaky's retweets of Rizzo's mammoth PCL blasts as it is to watch the actual Cubs. The sooner they call him up, the sooner that will be taken away from me and Rizzo and all of us will be dongslapped in the face with the cold reality of MLB pitching.
Wait, someone is tweeting Rizzo's bombs?!?
Surprisingly it's the I-Cubs official Twitter account.
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 21, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
My guess is that Soriano will be released this offseason (or maybe earlier) if he can't be traded in July for something slightly better than nothing. So I don't have any beef with letting him play for another 6 weeks or so on the 2% chance he continues to hit and convinces some mongoloid GM to trade for him. At this point it's as enjoyable to see Slaky's retweets of Rizzo's mammoth PCL blasts as it is to watch the actual Cubs. The sooner they call him up, the sooner that will be taken away from me and Rizzo and all of us will be dongslapped in the face with the cold reality of MLB pitching.
Wait, someone is tweeting Rizzo's bombs?!?
Surprisingly it's the I-Cubs official Twitter account.
What a time to be alive.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 21, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
My guess is that Soriano will be released this offseason (or maybe earlier) if he can't be traded in July for something slightly better than nothing. So I don't have any beef with letting him play for another 6 weeks or so on the 2% chance he continues to hit and convinces some mongoloid GM to trade for him. At this point it's as enjoyable to see Slaky's retweets of Rizzo's mammoth PCL blasts as it is to watch the actual Cubs. The sooner they call him up, the sooner that will be taken away from me and Rizzo and all of us will be dongslapped in the face with the cold reality of MLB pitching.
Wait, someone is tweeting Rizzo's bombs?!?
Surprisingly it's the I-Cubs official Twitter account.
What a time to be alive.
The I-Cubs also have a decent iPhone app, which is more than you can say for the Chicago Cubs.
Nice going, Epstink.
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2012, 07:37:44 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 21, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
My guess is that Soriano will be released this offseason (or maybe earlier) if he can't be traded in July for something slightly better than nothing. So I don't have any beef with letting him play for another 6 weeks or so on the 2% chance he continues to hit and convinces some mongoloid GM to trade for him. At this point it's as enjoyable to see Slaky's retweets of Rizzo's mammoth PCL blasts as it is to watch the actual Cubs. The sooner they call him up, the sooner that will be taken away from me and Rizzo and all of us will be dongslapped in the face with the cold reality of MLB pitching.
Wait, someone is tweeting Rizzo's bombs?!?
Surprisingly it's the I-Cubs official Twitter account.
What a time to be alive.
The I-Cubs also have a decent iPhone app, which is more than you can say for the Chicago Cubs.
Nice going, Epstink.
Why would they make their own app when At Bat is already out there? Wait, I get it. DAMN YOU EPSTINK
Quote from: Sterling Archer on May 22, 2012, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2012, 07:37:44 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 04:13:33 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 04:11:30 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 21, 2012, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 21, 2012, 01:56:01 PM
My guess is that Soriano will be released this offseason (or maybe earlier) if he can't be traded in July for something slightly better than nothing. So I don't have any beef with letting him play for another 6 weeks or so on the 2% chance he continues to hit and convinces some mongoloid GM to trade for him. At this point it's as enjoyable to see Slaky's retweets of Rizzo's mammoth PCL blasts as it is to watch the actual Cubs. The sooner they call him up, the sooner that will be taken away from me and Rizzo and all of us will be dongslapped in the face with the cold reality of MLB pitching.
Wait, someone is tweeting Rizzo's bombs?!?
Surprisingly it's the I-Cubs official Twitter account.
What a time to be alive.
The I-Cubs also have a decent iPhone app, which is more than you can say for the Chicago Cubs.
Nice going, Epstink.
Why would they make their own app when At Bat is already out there? Wait, I get it. DAMN YOU EPSTINK
My bad. MLB has forbade teams from launching their own apps.
Quote from: R-V on May 21, 2012, 12:53:58 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 21, 2012, 11:03:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 21, 2012, 10:52:55 AM
Were it up to me, I'd keep Rizzo down just because I don't really see where he plays.
Eli is right: Barney is cheap and should be playing. He's not the reason the team sucks and since they do suck, why move him around? I don't like Barney on a contending team either but he isn't killing the Cubs.
I just don't get bringing up Rizzo unless there's a significant injury to LaHair or Soriano.
But, if they suck, why not let Rizzo face some major league pitching? Who gives a fuck where Soriano plays or not plays?
I don't hate Barney but I am completely indifferent towards him. If he's the starting 2B in 2014 (or next year if you're under the mindset that there's little reason The Cubs shouldn't compete in 2013), then fuck Jed Hoyer with Theo Epstink's dickstink. Or something.
I for one do not give a fuck where Soriano not plays.
To channel my inner-Chuck (which is an oxymoron, because it's hollow and empty...nothing "inner" about it), I remember blasting the move at the time and being told it was good because the Cubs signed the "best" free agent on the market and at least "did something."
I'm just glad we have Epstink and not that thinking any longer as GM.
Hey at least they had a lead last night!
Quote from: PANK! on May 24, 2012, 05:47:51 AM
Hey at least they had a lead last night!
I didn't have high expectations at all for the Cubs this year, but one of the loftly goals I thought they'd achieve was being better than Houston. I am wrong so far.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 24, 2012, 07:50:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 24, 2012, 05:47:51 AM
Hey at least they had a lead last night!
I didn't have high expectations at all for the Cubs this year, but one of the loftly goals I thought they'd achieve was being better than Houston. I am wrong so far.
The good news is they won't have to worry about finishing behind them for very much longer.
I'm just glad there won't be any ambiguity come June about where the Cubs are headed. By then they should be a good 30 games under and ready to sell the shit out of anyone with value.
That's going to be fun.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 24, 2012, 08:53:59 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 24, 2012, 07:50:46 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 24, 2012, 05:47:51 AM
Hey at least they had a lead last night!
I didn't have high expectations at all for the Cubs this year, but one of the loftly goals I thought they'd achieve was being better than Houston. I am wrong so far.
The good news is they won't have to worry about finishing behind them for very much longer.
(||)
If the Cubs' horrendous 2012 leads to the drafting of Colin Moran in 2013, has Desipio come full circle at that point?
Why haven't we been hearing anything about "The Cubs' Way"? Are we seeing the Cubs' way? If this is the Cubs' way, I am not sure that I like it. I didn't expect to make the playoffs, but I didn't think that the Cubs would aspire to 10 game losing streaks. On the brighter side, if the Cubs lose today, then a ten game losing streak would look good.
Quote from: CBStew on May 26, 2012, 01:47:55 PM
Why haven't we been hearing anything about "The Cubs' Way"? Are we seeing the Cubs' way? If this is the Cubs' way, I am not sure that I like it. I didn't expect to make the playoffs, but I didn't think that the Cubs would aspire to 10 game losing streaks. On the brighter side, if the Cubs lose today, then a ten game losing streak would look good.
It might be hard to get major leaguers to buy into it. But when Gerardo Concepcion wins the Cy Young in 2014 it'll be Cubs Way all up in here.
Quote from: CBStew on May 26, 2012, 01:47:55 PM
Why haven't we been hearing anything about "The Cubs' Way"? Are we seeing the Cubs' way? If this is the Cubs' way, I am not sure that I like it. I didn't expect to make the playoffs, but I didn't think that the Cubs would aspire to 10 game losing streaks. On the brighter side, if the Cubs lose today, then a ten game losing streak would look good.
A ten game losing streak would sure look good right now.
Quote from: CBStew on May 26, 2012, 09:32:00 PM
Quote from: CBStew on May 26, 2012, 01:47:55 PM
Why haven't we been hearing anything about "The Cubs' Way"? Are we seeing the Cubs' way? If this is the Cubs' way, I am not sure that I like it. I didn't expect to make the playoffs, but I didn't think that the Cubs would aspire to 10 game losing streaks. On the brighter side, if the Cubs lose today, then a ten game losing streak would look good.
A ten game losing streak would sure look good right now.
Dolis has filled Marmol's role almost perfectly.
Anger!
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on.
Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
Huey's just rescued the season for me. Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease...
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2012, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
Huey's just rescued the season for me. Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease...
Without ketchup, natch.
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
I'm not angry at all. Just mocking those that are. We knew this team would suck.
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
I'm not angry at all. Just mocking those that are. We knew this team would suck.
Everyone not named Yellon or Ricketts.
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2012, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
Huey's just rescued the season for me. Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease...
This could really bump Tonkfest to the must-attend event of the summer.
Quote from: Bort on May 27, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2012, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
Huey's just rescued the season for me. Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease...
This could really bump Tonkfest to the must-attend event of the summer.
Dammit
Go Cubs go! Memorial Day champs!
Quote from: flannj on May 28, 2012, 04:34:07 PM
Quote from: Bort on May 27, 2012, 01:56:26 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 27, 2012, 10:54:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
Huey's just rescued the season for me. Pleasepleasepleasepleasepleaseplease...
This could really bump Tonkfest to the must-attend event of the summer.
Dammit
They have more than 20 games left. Plenty of time.
One day, I will achieve my dream of watching a dyspeptic Irishman eat a hat.
Is catsup permissible on hats?
Quote from: Fork on May 29, 2012, 06:57:18 AM
Is catsup permissible on hats?
*sigh* (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=8079.msg255043#msg255043)
The Cubs scored 11 runs yesterday? Time for them to take a three week break.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 29, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
The Cubs scored 11 runs yesterday? Time for them to take a three week break.
TIME TO POST IN EVERY THREAD
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on May 29, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 29, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
The Cubs scored 11 runs yesterday? Time for them to take a three week break.
TIME TO POST IN EVERY THREAD
TDubbs likes his messageboard like his rape victims.
Silent.
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on May 29, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 29, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
The Cubs scored 11 runs yesterday? Time for them to take a three week break.
TIME TO POST IN EVERY THREAD
TDubbs likes his messageboard like his rape victims.
Silent.
Dead girls don't scream, brah...
or move.
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on May 29, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 29, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
The Cubs scored 11 runs yesterday? Time for them to take a three week break.
TIME TO POST IN EVERY THREAD
TDubbs likes his messageboard like his rape victims.
Silent.
And white.
Quote from: Oleg on May 29, 2012, 02:46:43 PM
Quote from: Bort on May 29, 2012, 02:38:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2012, 02:35:49 PM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on May 29, 2012, 01:50:03 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 29, 2012, 12:09:34 PM
The Cubs scored 11 runs yesterday? Time for them to take a three week break.
TIME TO POST IN EVERY THREAD
TDubbs likes his messageboard like his rape victims.
Silent.
And white.
And male.
...preferably post-op.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2012, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
I'm not angry at all. Just mocking those that are. We knew this team would suck.
Everyone not named Yellon or Ricketts.
No, Chuck.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 29, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2012, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
I'm not angry at all. Just mocking those that are. We knew this team would suck.
Everyone not named Yellon or Ricketts.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 29, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 29, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2012, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
I'm not angry at all. Just mocking those that are. We knew this team would suck.
Everyone not named Yellon or Ricketts.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
Quote from: Bort on May 29, 2012, 06:58:20 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 29, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 29, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2012, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
I'm not angry at all. Just mocking those that are. We knew this team would suck.
Everyone not named Yellon or Ricketts.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
Yes Chuck.
I mean no. No, Chuck.
Quote from: CT III on May 29, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: Bort on May 29, 2012, 06:58:20 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 29, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 29, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2012, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
I'm not angry at all. Just mocking those that are. We knew this team would suck.
Everyone not named Yellon or Ricketts.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
Yes Chuck.
I mean no. No, Chuck.
/scene!
Quote from: morpheus on May 29, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: CT III on May 29, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: Bort on May 29, 2012, 06:58:20 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 29, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 29, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2012, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
I'm not angry at all. Just mocking those that are. We knew this team would suck.
Everyone not named Yellon or Ricketts.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
Yes Chuck.
I mean no. No, Chuck.
/scene!
Hopefully.
Quote from: Eli on May 30, 2012, 08:58:33 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 29, 2012, 10:29:32 PM
Quote from: CT III on May 29, 2012, 07:48:55 PM
Quote from: Bort on May 29, 2012, 06:58:20 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 29, 2012, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 29, 2012, 04:34:18 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 27, 2012, 01:39:54 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 27, 2012, 01:04:22 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 27, 2012, 10:29:12 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2012, 10:40:12 PM
Anger!
Nah. Tell me you didn't at least chuckle at Loss #11 occuring via a walk-off HBP.
I will admit, however to wondering that if catchers are really athletes, why couldn't that dude who played HS ball with Neil Walker have just jumped, or dove, over his crouched counterpart? I mean, you know...that's a run, kid, and you're a catcher yourself--you expect to kick the ball out with a little slide do ya? D'UR.
Bad baseball, but this is what we expected and, to an extent, what is needed, isn't it? I honestly can't get despondent over this streak yet either. They could lose 20 straight* and it wouldn't be as bad as an 0-14 start, so bring it on. Is this the best bad baseball you got? *pounds chest*
*If they lose 20 straight I'll literally eat a Cubs floppy hat.
I'm not angry at all. Just mocking those that are. We knew this team would suck.
Everyone not named Yellon or Ricketts.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
Yes Chuck.
I mean no. No, Chuck.
/scene!
Hopefully.
No, Eli.
Quote from: Slaky on May 30, 2012, 09:33:50 AM
Quote from: A Bunch of Fuckfaces on May 30, 2012, 09:24:38 AM
A bunch of worthless shit.
STOP IT
May 30th, 2012. The day Slaky realized Desipio was pointless. NEVER FORGET.
I positive the firmness with which this front office comports itself. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-epstein-and-hoyer-on-the-state-of-the-cubs-20120528,0,7199366.story) Have to remind myself that big boys are in charge and that's a good thing.
Quote"On both fronts, on short- and long-term, there's work to do," Epstein said. "Short term, in the trenches, there's work to do to get ourselves to a respectable level. We have to start playing for some pride right now, dig in. This is a bad stretch. Just sort of appeal to the base instincts and start scrapping and keep grinding for pride. Long term, it underscores the magnitude of the job here and sort of how far we have to go."
Some days it seems that Seabiscuit's Jockey's been beating this (ahem) dead horse about Rizzo being called up because he's just bored, but it's nice to see that they're not going to let that diminutive twat hound them about it (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0529-bits-cubs-padres-chicago--20120529,0,553808.story).
SPORTZ
Quote from: PANK! on May 30, 2012, 10:00:20 AM
I positive the firmness with which this front office comports itself. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-epstein-and-hoyer-on-the-state-of-the-cubs-20120528,0,7199366.story) Have to remind myself that big boys are in charge and that's a good thing.
Quote"On both fronts, on short- and long-term, there's work to do," Epstein said. "Short term, in the trenches, there's work to do to get ourselves to a respectable level. We have to start playing for some pride right now, dig in. This is a bad stretch. Just sort of appeal to the base instincts and start scrapping and keep grinding for pride. Long term, it underscores the magnitude of the job here and sort of how far we have to go."
Some days it seems that Seabiscuit's Jockey's been beating this (ahem) dead horse about Rizzo being called up because he's just bored, but it's nice to see that they're not going to let that diminutive twat hound them about it (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0529-bits-cubs-padres-chicago--20120529,0,553808.story).
SPORTZ
No, Mike.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 30, 2012, 10:11:02 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 30, 2012, 10:00:20 AM
I positive the firmness with which this front office comports itself. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/breaking/chi-epstein-and-hoyer-on-the-state-of-the-cubs-20120528,0,7199366.story) Have to remind myself that big boys are in charge and that's a good thing.
Quote"On both fronts, on short- and long-term, there's work to do," Epstein said. "Short term, in the trenches, there's work to do to get ourselves to a respectable level. We have to start playing for some pride right now, dig in. This is a bad stretch. Just sort of appeal to the base instincts and start scrapping and keep grinding for pride. Long term, it underscores the magnitude of the job here and sort of how far we have to go."
Some days it seems that Seabiscuit's Jockey's been beating this (ahem) dead horse about Rizzo being called up because he's just bored, but it's nice to see that they're not going to let that diminutive twat hound them about it (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0529-bits-cubs-padres-chicago--20120529,0,553808.story).
SPORTZ
No, Mike.
Fuckall.
I tried.
Two in a row!
SWEEP
Darwin Barney's muscle building program appears to have worked.
Quote from: Slaky on May 30, 2012, 05:10:36 PM
SWEEP
Darwin Barney's muscle building popshot program appears to have worked.
(http://pics.drugstore.com/prodimg/162288/300.jpg)
Meta'd
ITS GONNA HAI?
Quote from: BBM on May 30, 2012, 05:20:56 PM
ITS GONNA HAI?
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/news/2002/09/04/royals_athletics_ap/
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
(http://p.twimg.com/AuOCwssCMAA-oiL.jpg)
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
Too bad you caught her on "dress like a hobo day".
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
(http://p.twimg.com/AuOCwssCMAA-oiL.jpg)
Someone should email Yellon with the picture and say he's wearing orange because he was traded to the Giants. Deep Goat will confirm.
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil... how did you start the convo? I'm presuming he started it with "Nice catcher's gear, dude." And, if this doesn't end with you playing around back there on a DeJesus, it will be disappointing.
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 06:18:30 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
Too bad you caught her on "dress like a hobo day".
She's taking her fashion
ques from Paul Sullivan.
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
So DeJesus is Chuck's new fave?
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
Huard McPank: Sheriff of Desipio.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
Huard McPank: Sheriff of Desipio.
Fine. Encourage Morph and Fork's FunHouse of ShoutShop Madness©, I don't care. Nobody posts here anymore anyway.
*Kicks pebble*
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
Huard McPank: Sheriff of Desipio.
Fine. Encourage Morph and Fork's FunHouse of ShoutShop Madness©, I don't care. Nobody posts here anymore anyway.
*Kicks pebble*
*watches runner score from third*
Quote from: Fork on May 31, 2012, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
Huard McPank: Sheriff of Desipio.
Fine. Encourage Morph and Fork's FunHouse of ShoutShop Madness©, I don't care. Nobody posts here anymore anyway.
*Kicks pebble*
*watches runner score from third*
*sighs as his fat, 50 year old catcher desperately tries to find holes in his game*
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 31, 2012, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
Huard McPank: Sheriff of Desipio.
Fine. Encourage Morph and Fork's FunHouse of ShoutShop Madness©, I don't care. Nobody posts here anymore anyway.
*Kicks pebble*
*watches runner score from third*
*sighs as his fat, 50 year old catcher desperately tries to find holes in his game*
I thought Fork was only 49?
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on May 31, 2012, 11:43:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 31, 2012, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
Huard McPank: Sheriff of Desipio.
Fine. Encourage Morph and Fork's FunHouse of ShoutShop Madness©, I don't care. Nobody posts here anymore anyway.
*Kicks pebble*
*watches runner score from third*
*sighs as his fat, 50 year old catcher desperately tries to find holes in his game*
I thought Fork was only 49?
He's a very mature 49.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
(http://p.twimg.com/AuOCwssCMAA-oiL.jpg)
Was DeJesus cool with you snapping a pic of him and his wife, or was that a candid creepazoid snapshot you took? Evidently, DeJesus is okay with it. Props to Gil for taking a pic. FINALLY, pics and it did happen.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 31, 2012, 12:28:30 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
(http://p.twimg.com/AuOCwssCMAA-oiL.jpg)
Was DeJesus cool with you snapping a pic of him and his wife, or was that a candid creepazoid snapshot you took? Evidently, DeJesus is okay with it. Props to Gil for taking a pic. FINALLY, pics and it did happen.
Well, we started chatting on the airplane and convo carried over into the baggage area, but towards the end, when we were about to go separate ways, I figured I should probably sneak a stealth pic in to make sure everyone knows about this.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 31, 2012, 12:28:30 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
(http://p.twimg.com/AuOCwssCMAA-oiL.jpg)
Was DeJesus cool with you snapping a pic of him and his wife, or was that a candid creepazoid snapshot you took? Evidently, DeJesus is okay with it. Props to Gil for taking a pic. FINALLY, pics and it did happen.
Well, we started chatting on the airplane and convo carried over into the baggage area, but towards the end, when we were about to go separate ways, I figured I should probably sneak a stealth pic in to make sure everyone knows about this.
Did he like your windpants?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 31, 2012, 12:28:30 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
(http://p.twimg.com/AuOCwssCMAA-oiL.jpg)
Was DeJesus cool with you snapping a pic of him and his wife, or was that a candid creepazoid snapshot you took? Evidently, DeJesus is okay with it. Props to Gil for taking a pic. FINALLY, pics and it did happen.
Well, we started chatting on the airplane and convo carried over into the baggage area, but towards the end, when we were about to go separate ways, I figured I should probably sneak a stealth pic in to make sure everyone knows about this.
EDIT: The other man in that picture is Paul Maholm, who I did not talk to.
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Ah, forget it. It will only embolden Chuck.
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
My apologies. I asked, after establishing somewhat of a rapport, if Soriano was as much of a dick as he appeared to be. His response: "Every bit of it. Dude, wouldn't you be if you made like $500 million?"
"Well, I'd like to think I'd be somewhat charit...you're right, I'd be an asshole too."
/scene.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
My apologies. I asked, after establishing somewhat of a rapport, if Soriano was as much of a dick as he appeared to be. His response: "Every bit of it. Dude, wouldn't you be if you made like $500 million?"
"Well, I'd like to think I'd be somewhat charit...you're right, I'd be an asshole too."
/scene.
I never really pegged Soriano for being a prick. I just sort of hate how he plays baseball.
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 31, 2012, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
Huard McPank: Sheriff of Desipio.
Fine. Encourage Morph and Fork's FunHouse of ShoutShop Madness©, I don't care. Nobody posts here anymore anyway.
*Kicks pebble*
*watches runner score from third*
*sighs as his fat, 50 year old catcher desperately tries to find holes in his game*
6 years of dance lessons & Huey still does a better flying pirouette than I do.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 31, 2012, 01:14:48 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
My apologies. I asked, after establishing somewhat of a rapport, if Soriano was as much of a dick as he appeared to be. His response: "Every bit of it. Dude, wouldn't you be if you made like $500 million?"
"Well, I'd like to think I'd be somewhat charit...you're right, I'd be an asshole too."
/scene.
I never really pegged Soriano for being a prick. I just sort of hate how he plays baseball.
What did Soriano do that made Gil know he was a dick?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
My apologies. I asked, after establishing somewhat of a rapport, if Soriano was as much of a dick as he appeared to be. His response: "Every bit of it. Dude, wouldn't you be if you made like $500 million?"
"Well, I'd like to think I'd be somewhat charit...you're right, I'd be an asshole too."
/scene.
Gil doesn't need half a billion dollars to be a total dick. He can be a dick with just a $1200 suit.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
My apologies. I asked, after establishing somewhat of a rapport, if Soriano was as much of a dick as he appeared to be. His response: "Every bit of it. Dude, wouldn't you be if you made like $500 million?"
"Well, I'd like to think I'd be somewhat charit...you're right, I'd be an asshole too."
/scene.
Gil doesn't need half a billion dollars to be a total dick. He can be a dick with just a $1200 suit.
$1200? Piker.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
My apologies. I asked, after establishing somewhat of a rapport, if Soriano was as much of a dick as he appeared to be. His response: "Every bit of it. Dude, wouldn't you be if you made like $500 million?"
"Well, I'd like to think I'd be somewhat charit...you're right, I'd be an asshole too."
/scene.
Gil doesn't need half a billion dollars to be a total dick. He can be a dick with just a $1200 suit.
Gil doesn't have half a billion dollars, but he's not a poor person.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 31, 2012, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
My apologies. I asked, after establishing somewhat of a rapport, if Soriano was as much of a dick as he appeared to be. His response: "Every bit of it. Dude, wouldn't you be if you made like $500 million?"
"Well, I'd like to think I'd be somewhat charit...you're right, I'd be an asshole too."
/scene.
Gil doesn't need half a billion dollars to be a total dick. He can be a dick with just a $1200 suit.
Gil doesn't have half a billion dollars, but he's not a poor person.
I bet on the flight back, someone asks Dejesus how big of a dick Gil is.
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 01:42:09 PM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 31, 2012, 01:40:32 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
My apologies. I asked, after establishing somewhat of a rapport, if Soriano was as much of a dick as he appeared to be. His response: "Every bit of it. Dude, wouldn't you be if you made like $500 million?"
"Well, I'd like to think I'd be somewhat charit...you're right, I'd be an asshole too."
/scene.
Gil doesn't need half a billion dollars to be a total dick. He can be a dick with just a $1200 suit.
Gil doesn't have half a billion dollars, but he's not a poor person.
I bet on the flight back, someone asks Dejesus how big of a dick Gil is.
Boom. Roasted.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 01:26:07 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 01:00:12 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 12:55:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 31, 2012, 12:50:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 12:46:45 PM
When are you going to share the anecdote about his disdain for Soriano? We're all on pins and needles here.
Seriously. No one cares about any of the other crap you've been saying.
He basically asked Dejesus--"So...Soriano--how much of an asshole is *that* guy?" and got the answer he was fishing for.
My apologies. I asked, after establishing somewhat of a rapport, if Soriano was as much of a dick as he appeared to be. His response: "Every bit of it. Dude, wouldn't you be if you made like $500 million?"
"Well, I'd like to think I'd be somewhat charit...you're right, I'd be an asshole too."
/scene.
Gil doesn't need half a billion dollars to be a total dick. He can be a dick with just a $1200 suit.
COME ON!
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy Bob Nightengale of USA Today (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking willing to consider offers on castro any player not named Samardzija.
I am Bort's simmering rage'd
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
Everyone is preparing themselves.
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
QuoteStarlin Castro could be obtained for two impact prospects, according to Nightengale.
If that's offered, the Cubs have to take it. Because maybe one of the prospects would turn out to be as good as Starlin Castro.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2012, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
Everyone is preparing themselves.
Isn't Chuck the Big Man on Campus today? First, David DeJesus, and now crazy rumor guy have joined the Chuck Party.
Quote from: Brownie on May 31, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2012, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
Everyone is preparing themselves.
Isn't Chuck the Big Man on Campus today? First, David DeJesus, and now crazy rumor guy have joined the Chuck Party.
To be fair, CRG is just quoting Bob Nightengale. So, it's the USA Today scribe that's joined me.
(http://www.fallacyfiles.org/Bandwagon.jpg)
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 02:31:06 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
QuoteStarlin Castro could be obtained for two impact prospects, according to Nightengale.
If that's offered, the Cubs have to take it. Because maybe one of the prospects would turn out to be as good as Starlin Castro.
Maybe the Cubs could finally get Brian Roberts.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 31, 2012, 03:18:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 02:31:06 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
QuoteStarlin Castro could be obtained for two impact prospects, according to Nightengale.
If that's offered, the Cubs have to take it. Because maybe one of the prospects would turn out to be as good as Starlin Castro.
Maybe the Cubs could finally get Brian Roberts.
To be fair, they really are thin in the pitching department. If they could get two IMPACT pitchers, they should sleep on it, talk to their wives and call someone back.
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 11:38:22 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 31, 2012, 11:33:36 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 10:13:47 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 08:58:07 AM
Quote from: morpheus on May 31, 2012, 08:49:21 AM
Quote from: Tonker on May 31, 2012, 06:26:32 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:50:21 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 12:41:58 AM
I'm literally standing in the baggage claim area at San Francisco airport next to David DeJesus and his wife.
DPD. DeJesus really doesn't care for Soriano.
Are you going to elaborate on this for us?
Yeah, Gil...
Something from a world even smaller than the currently-dried up Desipio.
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny'd.
Huard McPank: Sheriff of Desipio.
Fine. Encourage Morph and Fork's FunHouse of ShoutShop Madness©, I don't care. Nobody posts here anymore anyway.
*Kicks pebble*
*watches runner score from third*
*sighs as his fat, 50 year old catcher desperately tries to find holes in his game*
let's get back to this
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 02:25:25 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy Bob Nightengale of USA Today (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking willing to consider offers on castro any player not named Samardzija.
I am Bort's simmering rage'd
God damn it.
Quote from: Brownie on May 31, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2012, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
Everyone is preparing themselves.
Isn't Chuck the Big Man on Campus today? First, David DeJesus, and now crazy rumor guy have joined the Chuck Party.
Intrepid Reader: Alternate Universe Chuck"#Cubs fans need to prepare themselves as the probability of the Cubs letting other teams know that they'll be 'all ears' when it comes to offers for basically any player on their roster continues to increase"
(http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/callmemaybe-dog.jpg)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 31, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2012, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
Everyone is preparing themselves.
Isn't Chuck the Big Man on Campus today? First, David DeJesus, and now crazy rumor guy have joined the Chuck Party.
Intrepid Reader: Alternate Universe Chuck
"#Cubs fans need to prepare themselves as the probability of the Cubs letting other teams know that they'll be 'all ears' when it comes to offers for basically any player on their roster continues to increase"
They also need to prepare themselves for the reality that Bob Nightengale is always wrong.
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 31, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2012, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
Everyone is preparing themselves.
Isn't Chuck the Big Man on Campus today? First, David DeJesus, and now crazy rumor guy have joined the Chuck Party.
Intrepid Reader: Alternate Universe Chuck
"#Cubs fans need to prepare themselves as the probability of the Cubs letting other teams know that they'll be 'all ears' when it comes to offers for basically any player on their roster continues to increase"
They also need to prepare themselves for the reality that Bob Nightengale is always wrong PAY THE FUCK ATTENTION.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/12895298-573/sources-deny-cubs-are-trying-to-trade-starlin-castro.html
Wittenmyer vs. Nightengale
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 31, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2012, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
Everyone is preparing themselves.
Isn't Chuck the Big Man on Campus today? First, David DeJesus, and now crazy rumor guy have joined the Chuck Party.
Intrepid Reader: Alternate Universe Chuck
"#Cubs fans need to prepare themselves as the probability of the Cubs letting other teams know that they'll be 'all ears' when it comes to offers for basically any player on their roster continues to increase"
They also need to prepare themselves for the reality that Bob Nightengale is always wrong PAY THE FUCK ATTENTION.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/12895298-573/sources-deny-cubs-are-trying-to-trade-starlin-castro.html
"Sources"?
Quote``Castro is one of the core players we are building around. Nothing has changed,'' team president Theo Epstein said via e-mail Thursday. ``We look forward to Starlin wearing a Cubs uniform for a long time.''
Quote from: CT III on May 31, 2012, 06:43:36 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 31, 2012, 06:02:47 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 04:32:59 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 31, 2012, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: Brownie on May 31, 2012, 02:52:08 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 31, 2012, 02:29:57 PM
Quote from: BH on May 31, 2012, 02:10:51 PM
According to crazy rumor guy (http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/05/cubs-will-consider-offers-for-castro-others.html), the cubs are taking offers on castro.
Everyone is preparing themselves.
Isn't Chuck the Big Man on Campus today? First, David DeJesus, and now crazy rumor guy have joined the Chuck Party.
Intrepid Reader: Alternate Universe Chuck
"#Cubs fans need to prepare themselves as the probability of the Cubs letting other teams know that they'll be 'all ears' when it comes to offers for basically any player on their roster continues to increase"
They also need to prepare themselves for the reality that Bob Nightengale is always wrong PAY THE FUCK ATTENTION.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/12895298-573/sources-deny-cubs-are-trying-to-trade-starlin-castro.html
"Sources"?
Quote``Castro is one of the core players we are building around. Nothing has changed,'' team president Theo Epstein said via e-mail Thursday. ``We look forward to Starlin wearing a Cubs uniform for a long time.''
Intrepid Reader: ChuckNotice Epstein didn't explicitly say they weren't trading Castro. No denial from the czar, no future on the North Side.
He's gone.
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 06:18:30 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
Too bad you caught her on "dress like a hobo day".
Maybe she mistakenly thought San Francisco was famous for its extensive population of hobos.
Quote from: Shooter on May 31, 2012, 07:38:16 PM
Quote from: PANK! on May 31, 2012, 06:18:30 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on May 31, 2012, 06:14:10 AM
TPD. The wife is really skinny.
Too bad you caught her on "dress like a hobo day".
Maybe she mistakenly thought San Francisco was famous for its extensive population of hobos.
They actually do sport quite a collection. Happy hobos. Kurt would be conflicted. On the one hand he'd be appalled that there were so many but he'd have to feel good about how stoned and well-nourished they all seem.
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 07:28:17 PM
Intrepid Reader: Chuck
Notice Epstein didn't explicitly say they weren't trading Castro. No denial from the czar, no future on the North Side.
He's gone.
Oh geez, I wasn't even that far off. Chuck's Twitter:
Quote"Castro is one of the core players we are building around. Nothing has changed" - Theo. Unsaid: "It'll change if someone offers up huge."
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 07:28:17 PM
Intrepid Reader: Chuck
Notice Epstein didn't explicitly say they weren't trading Castro. No denial from the czar, no future on the North Side.
He's gone.
Oh geez, I wasn't even that far off. Chuck's Twitter:
Quote"Castro is one of the core players we are building around. Nothing has changed" - Theo. Unsaid: "It'll change if someone offers up huge."
Internet Chuck: boldly going out on a limb that if someone offers something measureably more valuable than Castro, the Cubs will consider trading him.
I can't wait until this team is no longer awful.
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 10:18:14 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 31, 2012, 07:28:17 PM
Intrepid Reader: Chuck
Notice Epstein didn't explicitly say they weren't trading Castro. No denial from the czar, no future on the North Side.
He's gone.
Oh geez, I wasn't even that far off. Chuck's Twitter:
Quote"Castro is one of the core players we are building around. Nothing has changed" - Theo. Unsaid: "It'll change if someone offers up huge."
(||)
Quote from: PANK! on June 01, 2012, 05:37:12 AM
I can't wait until this team is no longer awful.
Time marches on....time marches on.
If you look at the video of DeJesus' home run from today, you'll see an idiot in a blue striped shirt and backwards Cubs hat get elbowed for a ball.
I still got the ball.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 02, 2012, 11:35:23 PM
If you look at the video of DeJesus' home run from today, you'll see an idiot in a blue striped shirt and backwards Cubs hat get elbowed for a ball.
I still got the ball.
French cuffs on that shirt?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 02, 2012, 11:35:23 PM
If you look at the video of DeJesus' home run from today, you'll see an idiot in a blue striped shirt and backwards Cubs hat get elbowed for a ball.
I still got the ball.
So you still wear a baseball cap backwards? Man, you really
are a douche.
Quote from: PANK! on June 03, 2012, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 02, 2012, 11:35:23 PM
If you look at the video of DeJesus' home run from today, you'll see an idiot in a blue striped shirt and backwards Cubs hat get elbowed for a ball.
I still got the ball.
So you still wear a baseball cap backwards? Man, you really are a douche.
How else is he supposed to wear his catcher's mask?
Quote from: Fork on June 03, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 03, 2012, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 02, 2012, 11:35:23 PM
If you look at the video of DeJesus' home run from today, you'll see an idiot in a blue striped shirt and backwards Cubs hat get elbowed for a ball.
I still got the ball.
So you still wear a baseball cap backwards? Man, you really are a douche.
How else is he supposed to wear his catcher's mask?
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 03, 2012, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 03, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 03, 2012, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 02, 2012, 11:35:23 PM
If you look at the video of DeJesus' home run from today, you'll see an idiot in a blue striped shirt and backwards Cubs hat get elbowed for a ball.
I still got the ball.
So you still wear a baseball cap backwards? Man, you really are a douche.
How else is he supposed to wear his catcher's mask?
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny.
Triple my usual score!
Quote from: Fork on June 03, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 03, 2012, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 03, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 03, 2012, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 02, 2012, 11:35:23 PM
If you look at the video of DeJesus' home run from today, you'll see an idiot in a blue striped shirt and backwards Cubs hat get elbowed for a ball.
I still got the ball.
So you still wear a baseball cap backwards? Man, you really are a douche.
How else is he supposed to wear his catcher's mask?
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny.
Triple my usual score!
You're including yourself in that, I presume?
Quote from: Tonker on June 04, 2012, 02:16:23 AM
Quote from: Fork on June 03, 2012, 10:46:48 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 03, 2012, 09:39:52 PM
Quote from: Fork on June 03, 2012, 07:57:00 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 03, 2012, 09:00:31 AM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on June 02, 2012, 11:35:23 PM
If you look at the video of DeJesus' home run from today, you'll see an idiot in a blue striped shirt and backwards Cubs hat get elbowed for a ball.
I still got the ball.
So you still wear a baseball cap backwards? Man, you really are a douche.
How else is he supposed to wear his catcher's mask?
Maybe 12 people get this inside joke and I'm guessing no more than 3 actually find it funny.
Triple my usual score!
You're including yourself in that, I presume?
Not always.
Cubs signed LHP Hong-Chih Kuo to a minor league contract.
Quote
In his seven-year MLB career, the 30-year-old left-hander has had five elbow operations, two Tommy John surgeries, and missed significant time with an anxiety disorder.
Epstink is hilarious.
Quote from: PenPho on June 04, 2012, 12:57:29 PM
Cubs signed LHP Hong-Chih Kuo to a minor league contract.
Quote
In his seven-year MLB career, the 30-year-old left-hander has had five elbow operations, two Tommy John surgeries, and missed significant time with an anxiety disorder.
Epstink is hilarious.
At age 30 he is in his prime.
Quote from: CBStew on June 04, 2012, 12:59:52 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 04, 2012, 12:57:29 PM
Cubs signed LHP Hong-Chih Kuo to a minor league contract.
Quote
In his seven-year MLB career, the 30-year-old left-hander has had five elbow operations, two Tommy John surgeries, and missed significant time with an anxiety disorder.
Epstink is hilarious.
At age 30 he is in his prime.
For mental illness or pitching?
My son insisted that we go to today's game for Fathers' Day. I was counting on a rain out. I didn't get it. Damn! Castro had another brain fart. Marmol threw the game away. Theriot was the fielding hero. Happy Fathers' Day.
This from the Sun Times:
"MINNEAPOLIS — A lot of people were counting on team president Theo Epstein and his ramped-up front office to make history in Chicago when they took over last fall.
Just maybe not this soon. And definitely not this way.
Even in victory Sunday, the specter of the worst Cubs season in history followed the team back home from a long and brutal road trip.
''Well, hopefully, you have to change the pace,'' manager Dale Sveum said before the Cubs did for one day with an 8-2 victory over the Minnesota Twins behind the pitching of Ryan Dempster. It was only their fifth victory in 25 games."
I have little sympathy for Manager Sveum. He seems to have a knack for using the wrong reliever at the wrong time. Where did he get the idea that he should platoon LaHair and Baker? If you are going to use Baker, put him at third where anything would be an improvement over Stewart. DeJesus batting third? It worked yesterday, but that was in the DH League. When Soriano is in his hitting streak you have to take advantage of it.
Quote from: CBStew on June 11, 2012, 12:44:21 PM
This from the Sun Times:
"MINNEAPOLIS — A lot of people were counting on team president Theo Epstein and his ramped-up front office to make history in Chicago when they took over last fall.
Just maybe not this soon. And definitely not this way.
Even in victory Sunday, the specter of the worst Cubs season in history followed the team back home from a long and brutal road trip.
''Well, hopefully, you have to change the pace,'' manager Dale Sveum said before the Cubs did for one day with an 8-2 victory over the Minnesota Twins behind the pitching of Ryan Dempster. It was only their fifth victory in 25 games."
I have little sympathy for Manager Sveum. He seems to have a knack for using the wrong reliever at the wrong time. Where did he get the idea that he should platoon LaHair and Baker? If you are going to use Baker, put him at third where anything would be an improvement over Stewart. DeJesus batting third? It worked yesterday, but that was in the DH League. When Soriano is in his hitting streak you have to take advantage of it.
I have no idea who any of these people are. Except for Soriano who is totes the balls.
Quote from: CBStew on June 11, 2012, 12:44:21 PM
Where did he get the idea that he should platoon LaHair and Baker?
He got it from where LaHair sucks against lefties.
Quote from: Eli on June 11, 2012, 01:04:35 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 11, 2012, 12:44:21 PM
Where did he get the idea that he should platoon LaHair and Baker?
He got it from where LaHair sucks against lefties.
Granted, but Stewart sucks against lefties, righties, one-armed pitchers, and dwarves.
Quote from: CBStew on June 11, 2012, 12:44:21 PM
This from the Sun Times:
"MINNEAPOLIS — A lot of people were counting on team president Theo Epstein and his ramped-up front office to make history in Chicago when they took over last fall.
Just maybe not this soon. And definitely not this way.
Even in victory Sunday, the specter of the worst Cubs season in history followed the team back home from a long and brutal road trip.
''Well, hopefully, you have to change the pace,'' manager Dale Sveum said before the Cubs did for one day with an 8-2 victory over the Minnesota Twins behind the pitching of Ryan Dempster. It was only their fifth victory in 25 games."
I have little sympathy for Manager Sveum. He seems to have a knack for using the wrong reliever at the wrong time. Where did he get the idea that he should platoon LaHair and Baker? If you are going to use Baker, put him at third where anything would be an improvement over Stewart. DeJesus batting third? It worked yesterday, but that was in the DH League. When Soriano is in his hitting streak you have to take advantage of it.
I'm pretty sure they're all the wrong reliever.
Marlon Byrd is available. (http://articles.boston.com/2012-06-10/sports/32144508_1_assignment-bobby-valentine-hunter-cervenka)
Quote from: BH on June 12, 2012, 03:31:17 PM
Marlon Byrd is available. (http://articles.boston.com/2012-06-10/sports/32144508_1_assignment-bobby-valentine-hunter-cervenka)
Does this mean the Cubs owe Boston additional compensation?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 12, 2012, 06:02:04 PM
Quote from: BH on June 12, 2012, 03:31:17 PM
Marlon Byrd is available. (http://articles.boston.com/2012-06-10/sports/32144508_1_assignment-bobby-valentine-hunter-cervenka)
Does this mean the Cubs owe Boston additional compensation?
They can have Darwin. Who gives a shit?
For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
He's also day to day after leaving yesterday's game after sliding into the dugout fence and getting an ouchie.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 13, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
Who's Anthony Rizzo? Haven't heard of him.
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 13, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
Who's Anthony Rizzo? Haven't heard of him.
He's the guy that got Rudy fired.
Quote from: PenPho on June 13, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 13, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
Who's Anthony Rizzo? Haven't heard of him.
He's the guy that got Rudy fired.
Is he any good?
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: PenPho on June 13, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 13, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
Who's Anthony Rizzo? Haven't heard of him.
He's the guy that got Rudy fired.
Is he any good?
He's Adam LaRoche with a better face. So ... YES!!!
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 13, 2012, 11:50:34 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: PenPho on June 13, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 13, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
Who's Anthony Rizzo? Haven't heard of him.
He's the guy that got Rudy fired.
Is he any good?
He's Adam LaRoche with a better face. So ... YES!!!
Cool. Hopefully he'll get called up sometime in the next few years.
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: PenPho on June 13, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 13, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
Who's Anthony Rizzo? Haven't heard of him.
He's the guy that got Rudy fired.
Is he any good?
According to Twitter he is.
Quote from: PenPho on June 13, 2012, 11:54:06 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: PenPho on June 13, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 13, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
Who's Anthony Rizzo? Haven't heard of him.
He's the guy that got Rudy fired.
Is he any good?
According to Twitter he is.
He's Bryce Harper with double the HGH.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 13, 2012, 11:58:36 AM
Quote from: PenPho on June 13, 2012, 11:54:06 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:45:33 AM
Quote from: PenPho on June 13, 2012, 11:40:01 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 13, 2012, 11:37:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 13, 2012, 11:00:28 AM
For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
Who's Anthony Rizzo? Haven't heard of him.
He's the guy that got Rudy fired.
Is he any good?
According to Twitter he is.
He's Bryce Harper with double the HGH.
So will Cole Hamels bean him with double the intensity then?
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For some reason, I checked Anthony Rizzo's stats at Iowa this year. He has 22 HR's already. So, like, that's cool and stuff I suppose.
Who's Anthony Rizzo? Haven't heard of him.
He's the guy that got Rudy fired.
Is he any good?
According to Twitter he is.
He's Bryce Harper with double the HGH.
So will Cole Hamels bean him with double the intensity then?
And Rizzo will steal home twice on the same play.
This went just as I had planned.
According to Ben Badler there's a significant baseball scandal that is going to break at some point today. It could be bad and it very well could involve the Cubs and/or Soler.
Can't wait.
Quote from: Slaky on June 13, 2012, 01:17:04 PM
According to Ben Badler there's a significant baseball scandal that is going to break at some point today. It could be bad and it very well could involve the Cubs and/or Soler.
Can't wait.
This is why (https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23bigbaseballscandal) I love Twitter.
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The Dominican Republic is actually 42 years-old. #BigBaseballScandal
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People have been creating moving images of copyrighted broadcasts and sharing them on the internet. #bigbaseballscandal
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All sunflower seeds have been replaced with folgers crystals #bigbaseballscandal
Here is Badler's story from June 8. Not seeing the scandal.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/international-affairs/2012/2613543.html
Quote from: Armchair_QB on June 13, 2012, 01:31:26 PM
Here is Badler's story from June 8. Not seeing the scandal.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/international-affairs/2012/2613543.html
If you can't get worked up over a good paperwork scandal...you're probably not Gil Gunderson.
Quote from: Slaky on June 13, 2012, 01:17:04 PM
According to Ben Badler there's a significant baseball scandal that is going to break at some point today. It could be bad and it very well could involve the Cubs and/or Soler.
Or not...
https://twitter.com/BenBadler/status/212973712637571072
QuoteOne of baseball's biggest buscones had his son use a fake age, score a huge bonus and pass an MLB investigation http://bit.ly/LUcIYj
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/international-affairs/2012/2613554.html
QuoteA son of Enrique Soto, one of the most powerful trainers in the Dominican Republic over the last two decades, used a false age when he signed with the Mariners in 2007, according to multiple sources familiar with the case.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 13, 2012, 01:34:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 13, 2012, 01:17:04 PM
According to Ben Badler there's a significant baseball scandal that is going to break at some point today. It could be bad and it very well could involve the Cubs and/or Soler.
Or not...
https://twitter.com/BenBadler/status/212973712637571072
QuoteOne of baseball's biggest buscones had his son use a fake age, score a huge bonus and pass an MLB investigation http://bit.ly/LUcIYj
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/majors/international-affairs/2012/2613554.html
QuoteA son of Enrique Soto, one of the most powerful trainers in the Dominican Republic over the last two decades, used a false age when he signed with the Mariners in 2007, according to multiple sources familiar with the case.
What this says:
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Barry Petchesky @barryap1
#bigbaseballscandal (and that CBS McQueary interview) is proof you should never tease anything.
Oh man, that worked out well. Thankfully no Cubs were involved.
Who's Ben Badler?
Quote from: Slaky on June 13, 2012, 03:10:59 PM
Oh man, that worked out well. Thankfully no Cubs were involved.
You're really determined to not be happy about this Soler signing.
DPD. I'm starting to think Huey takes "the only site you'll ever need" slogan pretty literally.
Quote from: R-V on June 13, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
DPD. I'm starting to think Huey takes "the only site you'll ever need" slogan pretty literally.
You don't?
Quote from: PANK! on June 13, 2012, 04:09:12 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 13, 2012, 04:08:11 PM
DPD. I'm starting to think Huey takes "the only site you'll ever need" slogan pretty literally.
You don't?
Intrepid Reader: TDubbsRV's wife tells him what sites he needs.
Jhonny Peralta...Do you think that his parents were ydslexic?
Quote from: CBStew on June 14, 2012, 03:02:22 PM
Jhonny Peralta...Do you think that his parents were ydslexic?
Jhonny was the inspiration for Dwyane Wade's folks.
Not that I particularly care, but has anyone else noticed that Carlos Marmol stinks?
Quote from: CBStew on June 15, 2012, 04:05:14 PM
Not that I particularly care, but has anyone else noticed that Carlos Marmol stinks?
Maybe Sveumstink had an inkling when he removed him from the closer's spot. But then he put the wrong guy in that role. So who knows if he noticed or not? I haven't noticed because I haven't been watching. I promise to tune in some after next summer's NBA Finals are over.
Given Campana's ability to steal bases, it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time. He could have a sub-.700 OPS and I don't think I'd care. Get on base at a decent clip, and be on 2nd half the time he does it
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Quote from: PANK! on June 15, 2012, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Why are you talking to flannj like that?
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
Tony "Apostrophe" Campana?
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/mlb/images/sweepstakes/y2012/chc/scotts_ty_hdr.png)
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/mlb/images/sweepstakes/y2012/chc/scotts_form_design1.png)
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/mlb/images/sweepstakes/y2012/chc/scotts_form_design2.png)
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(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/mlb/images/sweepstakes/y2012/chc/scotts_ty_hdr.png)
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/mlb/images/sweepstakes/y2012/chc/scotts_form_design1.png)
(http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/mlb/images/sweepstakes/y2012/chc/scotts_form_design2.png)
Anyone know what an "F-Y-C" across the outfield grass would look like?
Quote from: Brownie on June 18, 2012, 09:18:52 AM
Anyone know what an "F-Y-C" across the outfield grass would look like?
(http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.406085!/img/httpImage/image.jpg)(http://www.bleachernation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/cubs-drop-ball-soriano-johnson-fail.jpg)
(http://blogs.suntimes.com/sportsprose/alfonso-soriano-error-cubs.JPG)
During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.
Quote from: CBStew on June 18, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.
They've seen David Stern's script, written by Vince McMahon.
Quote from: CBStew on June 18, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.
I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.
At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."
The Bears were 13-3 the following season.
Quote from: Brownie on June 18, 2012, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 18, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.
I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.
At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."
The Bears were 13-3 the following season.
Owens set the record with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt. Also, the 2001 Bears were the biggest fluke I've ever seen but I'd definitely take a flukey 85-90 win season from an undeserving Cubs squad next year in a similar manner.
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2012, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 18, 2012, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 18, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.
I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.
At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."
The Bears were 13-3 the following season.
Owens set the reord with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt.
Also, didn't the Bears basically announce they were going to roll their coverage to Jerry Rice to prevent HIM from setting some record at the time?
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2012, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 18, 2012, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 18, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.
I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.
At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."
The Bears were 13-3 the following season.
Owens set the record with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt. Also, the 2001 Bears were the biggest fluke I've ever seen but I'd definitely take a flukey 85-90 win season from an undeserving Cubs squad next year in a similar manner.
But.. fast-forward five years from that 2000 game. The Bears were finishing an 11-5 season with Kyle Orton under center. So, yes, the Bears went from bad to really good to bad to really good again. It could happen to the Cubs. Look at 1984-1989 or 1998-2003 or 2003-2008.
Quote from: Brownie on June 18, 2012, 12:28:15 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2012, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 18, 2012, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 18, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.
I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.
At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."
The Bears were 13-3 the following season.
Owens set the record with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt. Also, the 2001 Bears were the biggest fluke I've ever seen but I'd definitely take a flukey 85-90 win season from an undeserving Cubs squad next year in a similar manner.
But.. fast-forward five years from that 2000 game. The Bears were finishing an 11-5 season with Kyle Orton under center. So, yes, the Bears went from bad to really good to bad to really good again. It could happen to the Cubs. Look at 1984-1989 or 1998-2003 or 2003-2008.
Let's hope for nothing like any of the above-mentioned time periods and something much better and sustained. Forget Buck and McCarver for reasons too numerous to list in any thread.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 18, 2012, 01:02:22 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 18, 2012, 12:28:15 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2012, 12:20:29 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 18, 2012, 12:14:25 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 18, 2012, 11:56:45 AM
During the telecast on MLB baseball on Saturday Joe Buck said that Cub fans were going to have to wait 5 years to be competitive, Tim McCarver said that it was going to be longer than five years.
I remember watching the Bears play the 49ers in 2000 and Fox had sent their No. 1 team to cover it. Terrell Owens had about 75 receptions that game and Jerry Rice was playing in his last home game. Cade McKnown also played in this game completing maybe 3 passes. Both teams were finishing bad seasons.
At some point, John Madden chortled: "You know, the 49ers, I can see them getting good again sometime soon. The Bears, I just don't know when they'll be a good team again."
The Bears were 13-3 the following season.
Owens set the record with 20 receptions. Since broken by some guy named Brandon Marshall. McNown was 9 of 29 and was so bad in practice that he caused the mutiny against him the next week, resulting in Matthews starting against Detroit. Huey will say "but I thought McNown started against Detroit because he knocked them outta the playoffs!" but that was when McNown came in late after Matthews got hurt. Also, the 2001 Bears were the biggest fluke I've ever seen but I'd definitely take a flukey 85-90 win season from an undeserving Cubs squad next year in a similar manner.
But.. fast-forward five years from that 2000 game. The Bears were finishing an 11-5 season with Kyle Orton under center. So, yes, the Bears went from bad to really good to bad to really good again. It could happen to the Cubs. Look at 1984-1989 or 1998-2003 or 2003-2008.
Let's hope for nothing like any of the above-mentioned time periods and something much better and sustained. Forget Buck and McCarver for reasons too numerous to list in any thread.
Right. Would I take a fluky 90 win season next year? Of course. The idea is that they don't have fluky seasons anymore. That's what all this is about.
I've been really good about not getting pissed off seeing every game end in a loss because I know that there's a plan here. But I'll be damned if there aren't moments where the word Cubs depresses the hell out of me.
And now, the White Sox.
1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.
The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.
Quote from: PANK! on June 15, 2012, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
That game will make a nice season highlight.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 18, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 15, 2012, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
Quote from: PANK! on June 19, 2012, 05:10:23 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 18, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 15, 2012, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 19, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 19, 2012, 05:10:23 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 18, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 15, 2012, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
Quote from: morpheus on June 19, 2012, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 19, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 19, 2012, 05:10:23 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 18, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 15, 2012, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
Sabometrics? They measure the guy that beat Mark Grace for the ROY?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 19, 2012, 09:04:24 AM
Quote from: morpheus on June 19, 2012, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 19, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 19, 2012, 05:10:23 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 18, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 15, 2012, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
Sabometrics? They measure the guy that beat Mark Grace for the ROY?
Spuds!
Quote from: morpheus on June 19, 2012, 09:02:31 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 19, 2012, 08:43:55 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 19, 2012, 05:10:23 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 18, 2012, 10:30:53 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 15, 2012, 11:28:06 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 15, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
I think I remember Baseball Prospectus figuring out that you really needed to be stealing around four bases for every caught stealing if you weren't going to be doing more harm than good. Somewhere between 75% and 80% is the magic number, I'm pretty sure.
Yet another reason to fucking hate Juan Pierre.
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it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB
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it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB
Lesson learned: Campana needs to figure out how to steal first base.
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it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB
Lesson learned: Campana needs to figure out how to steal first base.
He should go across the field and ask AJ Pierzynski.
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it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB
If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.
Crazy Rumor Guy
"Rival teams frequently ask about Darwin Barney and it's possible the Cubs will trade the second baseman."
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it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB
If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.
His stolen bases can't drive in runners from first like say, a double might. So I'm not going to look at it that way. I'm just not. *folds arms*
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Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 15, 2012, 07:04:13 PM
it would be great if he could get on base at least 35% of the time.
Crux of the biscuit'd
And if your mom had balls she'd be your d...well she'd probably still be your mom because you're a fucked up hillrod but that's a pretty big "if" that you're talking about with little Tony C.
Yea, I know. It's the same as saying "If the Cubs were good at baseball, that'd be great because they'd be good!"
I was just thinking about how often the Cubs have had a guy who can actually steal bases at a rate that's worth the risk. I guess I'd just like to see that be a possibility, but Campana sucks so it'll never be. That fucker. Whathright?
I think someone needs to go to Sabremetrics Re-education Camp.
I do?
I think he's saying "who can *not get caught stealing* at a rate that's worth the risk." As in, at some point, if you can steal successfully x% of the time, it makes sense to do so and gain the extra base from it. I am guessing that "x" is probably somewhere near 80%, given that the average success rate is around 70%, but I have nothing to back this up.
I did find this http://sabometrics.com/?p=582 which supposes, in the absence of other information, that it's about 75%, but varies depending on the situation, who's up and on deck, etc.
And, I believe the original Sabermetrics assertion we something like "players try to steal too often" or something similar, not "you shouldn't steal."
And there I go taking PANK literally again.
Anthony's current success rate is 89%. His career (the whole 1.5 years of it) is 91%. He has attempted 27 times in 63 opportunities this year, which is nuts. Only caught 3 times in that span. Even though his OBP is .313, he leads the majors in SB
If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.
His stolen bases can't drive in runners from first like say, a double might. So I'm not going to look at it that way. I'm just not. *folds arms*
Do they count doubles with the bases empty or the doubles that have zero chance of driving in a run in slugging percentage?
But, hey, it's a free country.
Quote from: Brownie on June 19, 2012, 09:47:13 AM
If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.
Did you take the 3 CS out of SLG as well?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 19, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 19, 2012, 09:47:13 AM
If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.
Did you take the 3 CS out of SLG as well?
I did, and it brought it down to .755... but, if Alfonso Soriano hits a double and mid FYC, he gets thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple, he still gets credit for the double.
Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2012, 10:03:51 PM
1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.
The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.
My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.
Could be the highlight of my day.
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1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.
The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.
My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.
Could be the highlight of my day.
I' very happy that the Cubs have knocked the Sox out of first. The highlight for the season will be if they sweep them tonight.
Also, per the other discussion, I see Yeti's bf Campana got PICKED OFF last night. Way to go, Yeti.
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1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.
The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.
My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.
Could be the highlight of my day.
I' very happy that the Cubs have knocked the Sox out of first. The highlight for the season will be if they sweep them tonight.
We'll also finally learn whether there are tie-break procedures in place for the BP Cup.
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Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2012, 10:03:51 PM
1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.
The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.
My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.
Could be the highlight of my day.
Are you Randolph or Mortimer?
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 19, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
Quote from: Brownie on June 19, 2012, 09:47:13 AM
If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.
Did you take the 3 CS out of SLG as well?
I did, and it brought it down to .755... but, if Alfonso Soriano hits a double and mid FYC, he gets thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple, he still gets credit for the double.
Agreed. When I do that modified OPS I factor out caught stealings from both but do not factor out thrown out trying to advance.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 20, 2012, 08:25:57 AM
We'll also finally learn whether there are tie-break procedures in place for the BP Cup.
In the case of a tie, the cup will go to the team that wins the last game. So, THE CUP IS ON THE LINE TONIGHT, OGDENS!!!!
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Quote from: Brownie on June 19, 2012, 09:47:13 AM
If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.
Did you take the 3 CS out of SLG as well?
I did, and it brought it down to .755... but, if Alfonso Soriano hits a double and mid FYC, he gets thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple, he still gets credit for the double.
Agreed. When I do that modified OPS I factor out caught stealings from both but do not factor out thrown out trying to advance.
I think you missed TJ point.
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Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 20, 2012, 08:25:57 AM
We'll also finally learn whether there are tie-break procedures in place for the BP Cup.
In the case of a tie, the cup will go to the team that wins the last game. So, THE CUP IS ON THE LINE TONIGHT, OGDENS!!!!
BP Cup tonight? Neismith Trophy tomorrow? Offering thanks to the Porcelain Gord all weekend long? Bonertyme: COMMENCE!!!!?
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Quote from: Brownie on June 19, 2012, 09:47:13 AM
If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.
Did you take the 3 CS out of SLG as well?
I did, and it brought it down to .755... but, if Alfonso Soriano hits a double and mid FYC, he gets thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple, he still gets credit for the double.
Agreed. When I do that modified OPS I factor out caught stealings from both but do not factor out thrown out trying to advance.
I think you missed TJ point.
Right. Like Soriano would ever run hard enough to try for a triple.
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Quote from: Brownie on June 19, 2012, 09:47:13 AM
If you took his 3 CS and deducted them from his OBP, and if you took his 24 SB and added it to his SLG, his OPS rises to a nifty .777, even if his adjusted OBP is .291. That's one way to look at it, I suppsoe.
Did you take the 3 CS out of SLG as well?
I did, and it brought it down to .755... but, if Alfonso Soriano hits a double and mid FYC, he gets thrown out trying to stretch it into a triple, he still gets credit for the double.
Agreed. When I do that modified OPS I factor out caught stealings from both but do not factor out thrown out trying to advance.
I think you missed TJ point.
Right. Like Soriano would ever run hard enough to try for a triple.
You bitch when he has "peg leg" injuries and bitch when he doesn't run hard enough to aggravate them. I'd like you to pick a lane.
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1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.
The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.
My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.
Could be the highlight of my day.
Are you Randolph or Mortimer?
I'm probably more like Louis Winthorpe III.
Drunk, dressed in a filthy Santa suit and eating an entire smoked salmon on a city bus.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 20, 2012, 10:33:10 AM
You bitch when he has "peg leg" injuries and bitch when he doesn't run hard enough to aggravate them. I'd like you to pick a lane.
In reality, Real World Chuck doesn't bitch about Soriano anymore. He's not relevant to this team's present or future success. And, since I'm not usually watching the team play, his good plays don't excite me and his bad ones don't bother me.
But, for the purposes of Internet Chuck, he still hates him with the passion of a thousand suns. And if there's a line to attack him, it will be taken.
And it was Maglio Ordonez who was the peg leg guy.
DPD / 10.17(c):
Looks like the BP Cup was already awarded. They changed the rules without telling us!
(http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/chi-game-3-chicago-cubs-white-sox-photos/tablet-chi-cubsmore520120520155355.jpg)
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1. 2. 3. inning by Manny Fat.
The homeless, legless, wheelchair bound, Sox Fan on the corner of LaSalle and Monroe will not receive a dollar from me tomorrow morning.
My morning commute is going to finish with this guy "mother fucking" me from Monroe to Adams to Quincy.
Could be the highlight of my day.
Are you Randolph or Mortimer?
I'm probably more like Louis Winthorpe III.
Drunk, dressed in a filthy Santa suit and eating an entire smoked salmon on a city bus.
Look in his office drawer... He's got all the bad drugs here: marijuana joints, pills, Quaaludes, Valium, yellow ones, red ones, cocaine grinder, drug needles.
He's the pusher, not me.
What're the odds that Theo and Jed could unload Soriano WITH Dempster (when he's done stalling healthy) to some AL team?
Quote from: PANK! on June 20, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
What're the odds that Theo and Jed could unload Soriano WITH Dempster (when he's done stalling healthy) to some AL team?
7-1
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 20, 2012, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 20, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
What're the odds that Theo and Jed could unload Soriano WITH Dempster (when he's done stalling healthy) to some AL team?
7-1
I'll take the under.
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Quote from: Internet Apex on June 20, 2012, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 20, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
What're the odds that Theo and Jed could unload Soriano WITH Dempster (when he's done stalling healthy) to some AL team?
7-1
I'll take the under.
is there a quinella on this one?
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Quote from: R-V on June 20, 2012, 11:56:16 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 20, 2012, 11:41:24 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 20, 2012, 11:40:27 AM
What're the odds that Theo and Jed could unload Soriano WITH Dempster (when he's done stalling healthy) to some AL team?
7-1
I'll take the under.
is there a quinella on this one?
Nah, he quit a while ago.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 20, 2012, 10:58:37 AM
DPD / 10.17(c):
Looks like the BP Cup was already awarded. They changed the rules without telling us!
(http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/chi-game-3-chicago-cubs-white-sox-photos/tablet-chi-cubsmore520120520155355.jpg)
Tie goes to whoever won it last year? Geighest Cup Ever.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 20, 2012, 04:49:39 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 20, 2012, 10:58:37 AM
DPD / 10.17(c):
Looks like the BP Cup was already awarded. They changed the rules without telling us!
(http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/chi-game-3-chicago-cubs-white-sox-photos/tablet-chi-cubsmore520120520155355.jpg)
Tie goes to whoever won it last year? Geighest Cup Ever.
The Warren Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Cup) begs to differ.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GrYP0fOT-ho/SZsfh1ep45I/AAAAAAAACck/4ZdCQQSSwkw/s400/WarrenCupBOxford.jpg)
(http://babylonbaroque.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/warren_cup_a1.jpg)
Also, looks like Seattke's got a case of the gheys as well.
(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/32/38581654_7ad9487deb.jpg)
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 20, 2012, 10:58:37 AM
DPD / 10.17(c):
Looks like the BP Cup was already awarded. They changed the rules without telling us!
(http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com/chi-game-3-chicago-cubs-white-sox-photos/tablet-chi-cubsmore520120520155355.jpg)
Tie goes to whoever won it last year? Geighest Cup Ever.
The Warren Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Cup) begs to differ.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_GrYP0fOT-ho/SZsfh1ep45I/AAAAAAAACck/4ZdCQQSSwkw/s400/WarrenCupBOxford.jpg)
(http://babylonbaroque.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/warren_cup_a1.jpg)
Intrepid Reader Jerry Sandusky: What are you talking about? I don't see anything there but good, old-fashioned horseplay.
I dearly, dearly hope that I never see Casey Coleman in a Cubs' uniform again. Maybe Dales Waym will have got a taste for DFAing shitty pitchers now?
Seriously, how fucking long does this fucking cunt have to suck it up before the Cubs realise that he never was, and never will be a major league pitcher? At this point, I hate him more than I hate Mather or Baker, and that's saying something.
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2012, 03:22:36 PM
I dearly, dearly hope that I never see Casey Coleman in a Cubs' uniform again. Maybe Dales Waym will have got a taste for DFAing shitty pitchers now?
Seriously, how fucking long does this fucking cunt have to suck it up before the Cubs realise that he never was, and never will be a major league pitcher? At this point, I hate him more than I hate Mather or Baker, and that's saying something.
Why have an opinion on either Mather or Baker? Coleman I understand. Cuz fuck that guy.
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 27, 2012, 03:24:54 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2012, 03:22:36 PM
I dearly, dearly hope that I never see Casey Coleman in a Cubs' uniform again. Maybe Dales Waym will have got a taste for DFAing shitty pitchers now?
Seriously, how fucking long does this fucking cunt have to suck it up before the Cubs realise that he never was, and never will be a major league pitcher? At this point, I hate him more than I hate Mather or Baker, and that's saying something.
Why have an opinion on either Mather or Baker? Coleman I understand. Cuz fuck that guy.
Because they're also talentless wankers masquerading as Major League ballplayers. If they had an ounce of shame, they'd fucking retire.
I look forward to the Cubs someday being good enough to not have shitslingers like Casey F Coleman on the roster. It's actually just a little amazing how bad he and his stupid windup twist are.
Jumped into the car to run some errands and the first action I had heard or seen or read about in about 3 games coincided with the following sequence:
Wood doubles.
Dejesus grounds to third and gets put out 5-3, but Wood daringly takes third base on the throw.
Castro lays off junk from Rdoriguez, until the latter decides to IBB the former when the count's 3-0.
Rizzo delivers what would eventually be his third game winning hit of the week, a single to right field and Castro takes third base on the hit.
Baker doubles to left field and Rizzo takes the extra base in scoring all the way from first.
Amidst the hits, patients at-bats, and putting extra pressure on the defense by successfully taking the extra base three times, I daresay that was the finest 15 minutes of baseball I've heard or seen out of these guys this year.
Quote from: PANK! on July 02, 2012, 06:05:05 AM
Amidst the hits, patients at-bats, and putting extra pressure on the defense by successfully taking the extra base three times, I daresay that was the finest 15 minutes of baseball I've heard or seen out of these guys this year.
You have to admit that the bar was pretty low.
So Ian Stewart needs surgery, hopefully to get his baseball skill put back in, and now the Cubs have no 3B. Most would say even with Stewart, the Cubs had no 3B.
Josh Vitters time? He's raking at the moment... .298 .350 .510 .860 13 HR 44 RBI 21 2B
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 01:03:41 PM
Josh Vitters time?
Let's hope not. Let him destroy AAA for a few more months and build up his confidence or [Chuckism]trade value[/Chuckism].
Quote from: Eli on July 02, 2012, 01:08:45 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 01:03:41 PM
Josh Vitters time?
Let's hope not. Let him destroy AAA for a few more months and build up his confidence or [Chuckism]trade value[/Chuckism].
What is the plan for him? It seems like he's been in the organization for a really long time and he's just 22.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 01:03:41 PM
So Ian Stewart needs surgery, hopefully to get his baseball skill put back in, and now the Cubs have no 3B. Most would say even with Stewart, the Cubs had no 3B.
Josh Vitters time? He's raking at the moment... .298 .350 .510 .860 13 HR 44 RBI 21 2B
¡Valbuena's Val-bueno!
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: Eli on July 02, 2012, 01:08:45 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 01:03:41 PM
Josh Vitters time?
Let's hope not. Let him destroy AAA for a few more months and build up his confidence or [Chuckism]trade value[/Chuckism].
What is the plan for him? It seems like he's been in the organization for a really long time and he's just 22.
Call up Vitters and then this team should not lose another game. That would put them at 113-49 for the season, and I'm assuming a top seed in the playoffs, where they'll win the first two games only to lose the next three to an 84-win Cardinal team.
Quote from: Brownie on July 02, 2012, 01:29:51 PM
Call up Vitters and then this team should not lose another game. That would put them at 113-49 for the season, and I'm assuming a top seed in the playoffs, where they'll win the first two games only to lose the next three to an 84-win Cardinal team.
That's a mock. I'm being mocked. You are mocking me. I don't like it.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 02, 2012, 01:29:51 PM
Call up Vitters and then this team should not lose another game. That would put them at 113-49 for the season, and I'm assuming a top seed in the playoffs, where they'll win the first two games only to lose the next three to an 84-win Cardinal team.
That's a mock. I'm being mocked. You are mocking me. I don't like it.
(http://montrealexposcards.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/606-gene-mauch-back.jpg)
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 02, 2012, 01:58:04 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 01:56:20 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 02, 2012, 01:29:51 PM
Call up Vitters and then this team should not lose another game. That would put them at 113-49 for the season, and I'm assuming a top seed in the playoffs, where they'll win the first two games only to lose the next three to an 84-win Cardinal team.
That's a mock. I'm being mocked. You are mocking me. I don't like it.
(http://montrealexposcards.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/606-gene-mauch-back.jpg)
Also a mock. (http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=452241)
There's no way they'd call up Vitters, right?
Although Valbuena is a guy that everyone seems to love even though his actual numbers stink.
Quote from: Slaky on July 02, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
There's no way they'd call up Vitters, right?
Although Valbuena is a guy that everyone seems to love even though his actual numbers stink.
He bangs out three-run homers like a boss.
Quote from: Slaky on July 02, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
There's no way they'd call up Vitters, right?
Although Valbuena is a guy that everyone seems to love even though his actual numbers stink.
But see, I was thinking that Vitters was all terrible and everything and just being sucky mcsuckerton in Iowa until I BR'd his stats for this season. He's putting together a solid year. I guess the reason why he wouldn't be called up is because the Cubs don't think he's close to being ready. It's not like I expect Vitters to turn the season around, that's been lost since April.
I was thinking of Vitters along the lines of Rizzo. Rizzo was raking and he's the heir at 1B. Vitters is a first round pick, putting together a good year at Iowa, is 22, and there's no way the Cubs were betting on Ian Stewart being at third for them past this year.
Or am I making a mistake by taking sports seriously on this board?
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 02:42:52 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 02, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
There's no way they'd call up Vitters, right?
Although Valbuena is a guy that everyone seems to love even though his actual numbers stink.
But see, I was thinking that Vitters was all terrible and everything and just being sucky mcsuckerton in Iowa until I BR'd his stats for this season. He's putting together a solid year. I guess the reason why he wouldn't be called up is because the Cubs don't think he's close to being ready. It's not like I expect Vitters to turn the season around, that's been lost since April.
I was thinking of Vitters along the lines of Rizzo. Rizzo was raking and he's the heir at 1B. Vitters is a first round pick, putting together a good year at Iowa, is 22, and there's no way the Cubs were betting on Ian Stewart being at third for them past this year.
Or am I making a mistake by taking sports seriously on this board?
I think you're doing well by taking SPORTZ seriously. Where you might have erred is taking anything anyone says here in any way serial.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 02:42:52 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 02, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
There's no way they'd call up Vitters, right?
Although Valbuena is a guy that everyone seems to love even though his actual numbers stink.
But see, I was thinking that Vitters was all terrible and everything and just being sucky mcsuckerton in Iowa until I BR'd his stats for this season. He's putting together a solid year. I guess the reason why he wouldn't be called up is because the Cubs don't think he's close to being ready. It's not like I expect Vitters to turn the season around, that's been lost since April.
I was thinking of Vitters along the lines of Rizzo. Rizzo was raking and he's the heir at 1B. Vitters is a first round pick, putting together a good year at Iowa, is 22, and there's no way the Cubs were betting on Ian Stewart being at third for them past this year.
Or am I making a mistake by taking sports seriously on this board?
Vitters will be at Wrigley Field sometime this year. And he won't even need to buy one of Mike D or flannj's tickets. Was I mocking? Maybe a little bit, but I am more than a little excited to see Rizzo and Vitters too. The Cubs have even become watchable lately. Maybe the future isn't so fucking bad.
Quote from: Brownie on July 02, 2012, 02:59:14 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 02:42:52 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 02, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
There's no way they'd call up Vitters, right?
Although Valbuena is a guy that everyone seems to love even though his actual numbers stink.
But see, I was thinking that Vitters was all terrible and everything and just being sucky mcsuckerton in Iowa until I BR'd his stats for this season. He's putting together a solid year. I guess the reason why he wouldn't be called up is because the Cubs don't think he's close to being ready. It's not like I expect Vitters to turn the season around, that's been lost since April.
I was thinking of Vitters along the lines of Rizzo. Rizzo was raking and he's the heir at 1B. Vitters is a first round pick, putting together a good year at Iowa, is 22, and there's no way the Cubs were betting on Ian Stewart being at third for them past this year.
Or am I making a mistake by taking sports seriously on this board?
Vitters will be at Wrigley Field sometime this year. And he won't even need to buy one of Mike D or flannj's tickets. Was I mocking? Maybe a little bit, but I am more than a little excited to see Rizzo and Vitters too. The Cubs have even become watchable lately. Maybe the future isn't so fucking bad.
Defense has been a weakness and could be a reason why they keep in the minors for a while. Although the sooner they bring him up, the sooner Sveumstink and Listerrible could work with him like they've done with Castro.
Quote from: R-V on July 02, 2012, 03:15:03 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 02, 2012, 02:59:14 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on July 02, 2012, 02:42:52 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 02, 2012, 02:11:24 PM
There's no way they'd call up Vitters, right?
Although Valbuena is a guy that everyone seems to love even though his actual numbers stink.
But see, I was thinking that Vitters was all terrible and everything and just being sucky mcsuckerton in Iowa until I BR'd his stats for this season. He's putting together a solid year. I guess the reason why he wouldn't be called up is because the Cubs don't think he's close to being ready. It's not like I expect Vitters to turn the season around, that's been lost since April.
I was thinking of Vitters along the lines of Rizzo. Rizzo was raking and he's the heir at 1B. Vitters is a first round pick, putting together a good year at Iowa, is 22, and there's no way the Cubs were betting on Ian Stewart being at third for them past this year.
Or am I making a mistake by taking sports seriously on this board?
Vitters will be at Wrigley Field sometime this year. And he won't even need to buy one of Mike D or flannj's tickets. Was I mocking? Maybe a little bit, but I am more than a little excited to see Rizzo and Vitters too. The Cubs have even become watchable lately. Maybe the future isn't so fucking bad.
Defense has been a weakness and could be a reason why they keep in the minors for a while. Although the sooner they bring him up, the sooner Sveumstink and Listerrible could work with him like they've done with Castro.
Or they could trade him to some team that doesn't have the handsome version of Adam LaRoche blocking him at first.
I doubt Vitters is here before September 1. Same as Rizzo, the Cubs will want to keep him under control an extra year before he's arb-eligible.
You guys ready for Chris Volstad's triumphant return?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 03, 2012, 10:59:04 AM
You guys ready for Chris Volstad's triumphant return?
Keep it.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 03, 2012, 10:59:04 AM
You guys ready for Chris Volstad's triumphant return?
You are going to make me cry real tears.
The Norman Rockwell painting that is the flannj household during dinner tonight.
Chipper's first at bat.
Daughter, middle son, and Mrs. flannj all scream at the TV simultaneously... "JUST HIT HIM! HIT HIM IN THE HEAD!"
Hell of a lot of good it did.
Quote from: flannj on July 03, 2012, 09:43:57 PM
The Norman Rockwell painting that is the flannj household during dinner tonight.
Chipper's first at bat.
Daughter, middle son, and Mrs. flannj all scream at the TV simultaneously... "JUST HIT HIM! HIT HIM IN THE HEAD!"
Hell of a lot of good it did.
Were you also screaming the same thing during Volstad's first AB? Assuming he got one. I manage to catch two or three box scores a week - his start was one I consciously avoided.
The Gang Reignites the Rivalry:
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2012, 04:00:18 PM
I want Dempster and the other gutless assholes to play like All-Stars so Epstoyer can trade them away for prospects who are actually good at baseball.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 30, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
If he weren't so overpaid, he'd have been eminently tradeable during the past two seasons when the Cubs needed to move people and bring back talent. But no. Every fifth day, that cock gobbler was still fucking here. Plus he's 10 & 5 and though I don't know him personally I'd bet my car that he'd block a trade because he loves it here.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 23, 2012, 02:36:08 PM
The Gang Reignites the Rivalry:
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2012, 04:00:18 PM
I want Dempster and the other gutless assholes to play like All-Stars so Epstoyer can trade them away for prospects who are actually good at baseball.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 30, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
If he weren't so overpaid, he'd have been eminently tradeable during the past two seasons when the Cubs needed to move people and bring back talent. But no. Every fifth day, that cock gobbler was still fucking here. Plus he's 10 & 5 and though I don't know him personally I'd bet my car that he'd block a trade because he loves it here.
Your car is too smart to take that bet.
Quote from: CBStew on July 23, 2012, 04:48:56 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 23, 2012, 02:36:08 PM
The Gang Reignites the Rivalry:
Quote from: Sterling Archer on March 29, 2012, 04:00:18 PM
I want Dempster and the other gutless assholes to play like All-Stars so Epstoyer can trade them away for prospects who are actually good at baseball.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 30, 2012, 08:50:03 AM
If he weren't so overpaid, he'd have been eminently tradeable during the past two seasons when the Cubs needed to move people and bring back talent. But no. Every fifth day, that cock gobbler was still fucking here. Plus he's 10 & 5 and though I don't know him personally I'd bet my car that he'd block a trade because he loves it here.
Your car is too smart to take that bet.
It's Japanese so... THI
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 15, 2012, 03:53:00 PM
Quote from: Tonker on April 15, 2012, 02:24:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 15, 2012, 01:29:11 PM
Internet Chuck dropping truth bombs (sic)
https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465 (https://twitter.com/#!/ivychat/status/191592707339198465)
Even by Internet Chuck's standards, that's plumbing new depths of wrong.
If you think Theo and Jed aren't increasingly likely to trade this guy, you haven't been paying attention.
bump for unironic jorts sake
Pudd Sirott's voice doppelganger at least didn't shoot down (https://twitter.com/JordanBernfield/status/232144836625592320)this heretofore unknown WGN producer dude's report that Jackson and Vitters have been called up so...what now? (https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=BrianBedo&tw_p=twt&source=twt)
Quote from: PANK! on August 05, 2012, 11:45:20 AM
Pudd Sirott's voice doppelganger at least didn't shoot down (https://twitter.com/JordanBernfield/status/232144836625592320)this heretofore unknown WGN producer dude's report that Jackson and Vitters have been called up so...what now? (https://twitter.com/intent/user?screen_name=BrianBedo&tw_p=twt&source=twt)
DPD.
Confirmation? (https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/232154561266192385)
Jeff Baker to Detroit. Soriano to... ????
Hello from Petco, just here for the cripple fight. Some moron is walking around in Dempshit's #46. For shame.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 06, 2012, 09:00:56 PM
Hello from Petco, just here for the cripple fight. Some moron is walking around in Dempshit's #46. For shame.
Is it Eli?
Quote from: PANK! on August 06, 2012, 09:22:27 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 06, 2012, 09:00:56 PM
Hello from Petco, just here for the cripple fight. Some moron is walking around in Dempshit's #46. For shame.
Is it Eli?
Nope!
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
The future is here. How do you like it so far?
Quote from: CBStew on August 07, 2012, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
The future is here. How do you like it so far?
It's not so different.
Quote from: CBStew on August 07, 2012, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
The future is here.
No. This is the end of the past. These are some of the last dregs of the Jim Hendry regime.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 07, 2012, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 07, 2012, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
The future is here.
No. This is the end of the past. These are some of the last dregs of the Jim Hendry regime.
Geez, after two whole days in the bigs they should be raking the shit out of everybody.
Quote from: Fork on August 07, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 07, 2012, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 07, 2012, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
The future is here.
No. This is the end of the past. These are some of the last dregs of the Jim Hendry regime.
Geez, after two whole days in the bigs they should be raking the shit out of everybody.
Chuckstink is terrible.
Quote from: Slaky on August 07, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 07, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 07, 2012, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 07, 2012, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
The future is here.
No. This is the end of the past. These are some of the last dregs of the Jim Hendry regime.
Geez, after two whole days in the bigs they should be raking the shit out of everybody.
Chuckstink is terrible.
I'm not writing them off yet based on anything I've seen. I'm still about 99 games-watched shy of valid opinion. But I fully expect both players to be taking up space on Baltimore or Pittsburgh's roster within three years. If I'm wrong, fucking great. Fantastic.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 07, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 07, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 07, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 07, 2012, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 07, 2012, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
The future is here.
No. This is the end of the past. These are some of the last dregs of the Jim Hendry regime.
Geez, after two whole days in the bigs they should be raking the shit out of everybody.
Chuckstink is terrible.
I'm not writing them off yet based on anything I've seen. I'm still about 99 games-watched shy of valid opinion. But I fully expect both players to be taking up space on Baltimore or Pittsburgh's roster within three years. If I'm wrong, fucking great. Fantastic.
Probably not on Pittsburgh's roster. Until half their team bolts for San Fancisco or New York, they are going to be pretty good in the coming years. Immense farm system. Very talented players.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 07, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 07, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 07, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 07, 2012, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 07, 2012, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
The future is here.
No. This is the end of the past. These are some of the last dregs of the Jim Hendry regime.
Geez, after two whole days in the bigs they should be raking the shit out of everybody.
Chuckstink is terrible.
I'm not writing them off yet based on anything I've seen. I'm still about 99 games-watched shy of valid opinion. But I fully expect both players to be taking up space on Baltimore or Pittsburgh's roster within three years. If I'm wrong, fucking great. Fantastic.
Ah those shit teams in Baltimore and Pitts...*looks at standings*
FUCK
Quote from: Slaky on August 07, 2012, 01:35:56 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 07, 2012, 10:30:17 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 07, 2012, 10:20:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 07, 2012, 10:13:37 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 07, 2012, 09:55:56 AM
Quote from: CBStew on August 07, 2012, 09:31:42 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2012, 12:06:31 AM
Brett Jackson: 0-for-4, 4 K. Josh Vitters: 0-for-4, 2 K. Better save my ticket stub for when they're co-MVPs next year.
The future is here.
No. This is the end of the past. These are some of the last dregs of the Jim Hendry regime.
Geez, after two whole days in the bigs they should be raking the shit out of everybody.
Chuckstink is terrible.
I'm not writing them off yet based on anything I've seen. I'm still about 99 games-watched shy of valid opinion. But I fully expect both players to be taking up space on Baltimore or Pittsburgh's roster within three years. If I'm wrong, fucking great. Fantastic.
Ah those shit teams in Baltimore and Pitts...*looks at standings*
FUCK
I'm more pissed at Houston rogering the Cubs out of the #1 overall pick.
How bout that Brooks Raley? Is it too late to go to New York and crucify Hendry for what he left behind? Call it living in the past...but the present sucks, and the future is at least two, but probably three or four years away.
Jackson swings at everything. If he doesn't change his ways, that's a firebarnin'.
Brooks Raley belongs on my fantasy team, where I can pretend he's a talented pitcher. (plus I'm sure his fantasy talent will help my team overtake the Dread Eye of Mordor)
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on August 07, 2012, 10:44:49 PM
How bout that Brooks Raley? Is it too late to go to New York and crucify Hendry for what he left behind? Call it living in the past...but the present sucks, and the future is at least two, but probably three or four years away.
Jesus Christ, seriously?
[TTP]
The more I think of it, the more I think about the scene in "Moneyball", where Beane is sitting in a room with a bunch of fossilized scouts, talking about "5 tool players", as Beane (a former 5 tool player) loses patience. Hendry probably sat in a similar room, and probably placed a different value on these types of evaluations.
There's no doubt that Hendry loved toolsy players, and Jackson and Vitters fit into the mold, as did Patterson, Pie and Castro. So far, you've got two washouts, one star, and the jury's out on the other 2. 3 if you want to also include Javier Baez, who is currently giving high-A pitchers night sweats.
The bright side to Jackson and Vitters is, while we might not see the results until next season (if at all), they're young enough and if they're willing enough to listen, they will eventually become the type of player who will get on base at a respectable pace and keep their other outputs high. So realistically, the Hendry era can end with Hendry draft picks.
[/TTP]
And if they don't fully pan out, they can probably be traded for spare parts.
Quote from: Bort on August 08, 2012, 08:14:18 AM
And if they don't fully pan out, they can probably be traded for spare parts.
Or be spare parts themselves.
Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
There's no doubt that Hendry loved toolsy players, and Jackson and Vitters fit into the mold
Jackson and Vitters aren't anything alike.
Quote from: Eli on August 08, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
There's no doubt that Hendry loved toolsy players, and Jackson and Vitters fit into the mold
Jackson and Vitters aren't anything alike.
They're both white, aren't they?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 08, 2012, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 08, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
There's no doubt that Hendry loved toolsy players, and Jackson and Vitters fit into the mold
Jackson and Vitters aren't anything alike.
They're both white, aren't they?
HELLZ YEAH!
and they both could maybe afford dinner at Alinea
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 08, 2012, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 08, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
There's no doubt that Hendry loved toolsy players, and Jackson and Vitters fit into the mold
Jackson and Vitters aren't anything alike.
They're both white, aren't they?
Well, yeah. The only guy Hendry ever picked up based upon his OBP was Fukudome, and look how that turned out.
Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 08, 2012, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 08, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
There's no doubt that Hendry loved toolsy players, and Jackson and Vitters fit into the mold
Jackson and Vitters aren't anything alike.
They're both white, aren't they?
Well, yeah. The only guy Hendry ever picked up based upon his OBP was Fukudome, and look how that turned out.
...consecutive trips to the playoffs?
Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2012, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 08, 2012, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 08, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
There's no doubt that Hendry loved toolsy players, and Jackson and Vitters fit into the mold
Jackson and Vitters aren't anything alike.
They're both white, aren't they?
Well, yeah. The only guy Hendry ever picked up based upon his OBP was Fukudome, and look how that turned out.
Also, Brett Jackson.
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 08, 2012, 08:49:45 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 08, 2012, 08:41:15 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 08, 2012, 08:39:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2012, 08:03:40 AM
There's no doubt that Hendry loved toolsy players, and Jackson and Vitters fit into the mold
Jackson and Vitters aren't anything alike.
They're both white, aren't they?
HELLZ YEAH!
and they both could maybe afford dinner at Alinea
Totes worth it
I have an extra ticket for Friday's 1:20 start. Anyone interested in going?
Quote from: thehawk on August 08, 2012, 09:03:37 PM
I have an extra ticket for Friday's 1:20 start. Anyone interested in going?
After suffering through this nutpunch of a series, they can't be any worse on Friday. You might get lucky and see a starting pitcher break his own bat.
This person is my enemy.
http://www.facebook.com/jeff.rosales.792
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 10, 2012, 11:27:49 AM
This person is my enemy.
http://www.facebook.com/jeff.rosales.792
You figured out Sterling Archer's real name?
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 10, 2012, 11:27:49 AM
This person is my enemy.
http://www.facebook.com/jeff.rosales.792
I thought he was being considerate of you not to have the shot from that side of Assembly Hall so the background would show as many NCAA men's championship banners as you can find at Mackey Arena.
Quote from: Brownie on August 11, 2012, 06:52:27 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 10, 2012, 11:27:49 AM
This person is my enemy.
http://www.facebook.com/jeff.rosales.792
I thought he was being considerate of you not to have the shot from that side of Assembly Hall so the background would show as many NCAA men's championship banners as you can find at Mackey Arena.
8 year olds, dude.
The Cubs are now 1/2 game behind Colorado for the 2nd worst record in baseball, and 9 behind Houston for the #1 overall pick.
C'mon, boys...you can do it!!!
It's a shame Hendry isn't here anymore. I would have loved to see the Rocket in a Cubs uniform...
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8285793/roger-clemens-signs-independent-sugar-land-skeeters-texas (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8285793/roger-clemens-signs-independent-sugar-land-skeeters-texas)
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 20, 2012, 06:52:11 PM
It's a shame Hendry isn't here anymore. I would have loved to see the Rocket in a Cubs uniform...
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8285793/roger-clemens-signs-independent-sugar-land-skeeters-texas (http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8285793/roger-clemens-signs-independent-sugar-land-skeeters-texas)
But Kenny Williams is still in Chicago, and this has KW written all over it, just like Canseco, David Wells, Ken Griffey, Roberto Alomar (twice) and Manny Ramirez.
Anybody want to hazard a guess which former Cub is doing this:
.292/.333/.549 for an OPS of .883, with 14 HR, 17 2B and 52 RBI in just 284 AB
... this year?
Quote from: Tonker on August 21, 2012, 03:05:17 AM
Anybody want to hazard a guess which former Cub is doing this:
.292/.333/.549 for an OPS of .883, with 14 HR, 17 2B and 52 RBI in just 284 AB
... this year?
It's the thin air in Denver - there's a gap of over 200 points in OPS between home & road. (HRs are even though)
Quote from: Fork on August 21, 2012, 07:15:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on August 21, 2012, 03:05:17 AM
Anybody want to hazard a guess which former Cub is doing this:
.292/.333/.549 for an OPS of .883, with 14 HR, 17 2B and 52 RBI in just 284 AB
... this year?
It's the thin air in Denver - there's a gap of over 200 points in OPS between home & road. (HRs are even though)
I'm not butthurt that they traded Tyler, but I'm butthurt that they traded anything at all for Ian Stewart. Nice Choice Thed.
Quote from: Tonker on August 21, 2012, 03:05:17 AM
Anybody want to hazard a guess which former Cub is doing this:
.292/.333/.549 for an OPS of .883, with 14 HR, 17 2B and 52 RBI in just 284 AB
... this year?
His numbers have been steadily drifting back after his hot start--during which time he homered twice off of the Great Strasburg-- and I seem to recall he did finish with 20 homeruns as a Cub his rookie...and he still sucked. That OBP cannot go any lower unless his slugging average goes up, which it probably won't. So, in short, fuck TYLENOL GLAVIN.
Quote from: PANK! on August 21, 2012, 09:21:04 AM
Quote from: Tonker on August 21, 2012, 03:05:17 AM
Anybody want to hazard a guess which former Cub is doing this:
.292/.333/.549 for an OPS of .883, with 14 HR, 17 2B and 52 RBI in just 284 AB
... this year?
His numbers have been steadily drifting back after his hot start--during which time he homered twice off of the Great Strasburg-- and I seem to recall he did finish with 20 homeruns as a Cub his rookie...and he still sucked. That OBP cannot go any lower unless his slugging average goes up, which it probably won't. So, in short, fuck TYLENOL GLAVIN.
This (http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?page=mlbdk2k11_tmrheardme) still makes me laugh.
Quote from: Matthew Berry
Chicago Cubs: Tyler Colvin hits 40 home runs. I'm thinking: The bold part isn't the number (OK, it's a little high) but he did hit 20 last year in about 350 at-bats. The bold part is playing time, but he's been taking some time at first this spring, as well. One way or the other, he'll find his way into the lineup.
Quote from: PenPho on August 21, 2012, 11:07:00 AM
Quote from: PANK! on August 21, 2012, 09:21:04 AM
Quote from: Tonker on August 21, 2012, 03:05:17 AM
Anybody want to hazard a guess which former Cub is doing this:
.292/.333/.549 for an OPS of .883, with 14 HR, 17 2B and 52 RBI in just 284 AB
... this year?
His numbers have been steadily drifting back after his hot start--during which time he homered twice off of the Great Strasburg-- and I seem to recall he did finish with 20 homeruns as a Cub his rookie...and he still sucked. That OBP cannot go any lower unless his slugging average goes up, which it probably won't. So, in short, fuck TYLENOL GLAVIN.
This (http://sports.espn.go.com/fantasy/baseball/flb/story?page=mlbdk2k11_tmrheardme) still makes me laugh.
Quote from: Matthew Berry
Chicago Cubs: Tyler Colvin hits 40 home runs. I'm thinking: The bold part isn't the number (OK, it's a little high) but he did hit 20 last year in about 350 at-bats. The bold part is playing time, but he's been taking some time at first this spring, as well. One way or the other, he'll find his way into the lineup.
Maybe he meant in his career. He's dead on it now.
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
The Cubs have the 14th-most strikeouts out of 30 major league teams. It's not really an issue.
They are, however, 29th in walks and 26th in home runs. Those are the real problems.
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
They fired their hitting coach that started the season.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on August 23, 2012, 01:55:20 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
They fired their hitting coach that started the season.
It's not shocking that the firing of rudy jaramillo was the start of the downfall of the season.
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
1) Babysit
2) Not really
3) Yes
4) Yes
5) They just fired the minor league director, all the scouts, and moved the head scout to a non-scouting role. Basically, they are going to get all new players and teach them all in new, non-Hendry-Cub-style ways.
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
The Cubs have the 14th-most strikeouts out of 30 major league teams. It's not really an issue.
They are, however, 29th in walks and 26th in home runs. Those are the real problems.
Over the entire season they are 14th. But over the last month they are striking out in amazing numbers. Yesterday half of their outs (13) came by strikeout. I think that they had 67 in the Milwaukee series and 71 in the 4 game Cinncinatti series.
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
The Cubs have the 14th-most strikeouts out of 30 major league teams. It's not really an issue.
They are, however, 29th in walks and 26th in home runs. Those are the real problems.
Over the entire season they are 14th. But over the last month they are striking out in amazing numbers. Yesterday half of their outs (13) came by strikeout. I think that they had 67 in the Milwaukee series and 71 in the 4 game Cinncinatti series.
I'd rather the problem were solved at the executive level than by the coaching staff. Those who strike out and don't walk or hit home runs can go sell cars.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 23, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
The Cubs have the 14th-most strikeouts out of 30 major league teams. It's not really an issue.
They are, however, 29th in walks and 26th in home runs. Those are the real problems.
Over the entire season they are 14th. But over the last month they are striking out in amazing numbers. Yesterday half of their outs (13) came by strikeout. I think that they had 67 in the Milwaukee series and 71 in the 4 game Cinncinatti series.
I'd rather the problem were solved at the executive level than by the coaching staff. Those who strike out and don't walk or hit home runs can go sell cars.
You can't
teach baseball, man.
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
The Cubs have the 14th-most strikeouts out of 30 major league teams. It's not really an issue.
They are, however, 29th in walks and 26th in home runs. Those are the real problems.
Over the entire season they are 14th. But over the last month they are striking out in amazing numbers. Yesterday half of their outs (13) came by strikeout. I think that they had 67 in the Milwaukee series and 71 in the 4 game Cinncinatti series.
Over the last month they've been playing a lot more guys who should already be selling cars.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 23, 2012, 06:14:06 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
The Cubs have the 14th-most strikeouts out of 30 major league teams. It's not really an issue.
They are, however, 29th in walks and 26th in home runs. Those are the real problems.
Over the entire season they are 14th. But over the last month they are striking out in amazing numbers. Yesterday half of their outs (13) came by strikeout. I think that they had 67 in the Milwaukee series and 71 in the 4 game Cinncinatti series.
Over the last month they've been playing a lot more guys who should already be selling cars.
The only way they can make September interesting is to pick their 4 and 5 starters from the crowd. Hold auditions. Something. Or is Theo making a point about how bare Hendry left the cupboard?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 04, 2012, 07:12:42 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 23, 2012, 06:14:06 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 23, 2012, 01:50:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on August 23, 2012, 01:42:05 PM
The following is a set of interogatories that I would like to submit to the Front Office:
1. What is a batting coach supposed to do?
2. Does the batting coach have any responsiblity to teach batters to avoid striking out?
3. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone on the coaching staff noticed how frequently certain Cub batters strike out?
4. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", has anyone attempted to look into the problem?
5. If the answer to the previous question is "yes", what are they trying to do about it?
The Cubs have the 14th-most strikeouts out of 30 major league teams. It's not really an issue.
They are, however, 29th in walks and 26th in home runs. Those are the real problems.
Over the entire season they are 14th. But over the last month they are striking out in amazing numbers. Yesterday half of their outs (13) came by strikeout. I think that they had 67 in the Milwaukee series and 71 in the 4 game Cinncinatti series.
Over the last month they've been playing a lot more guys who should already be selling cars.
The only way they can make September interesting is to pick their 4 and 5 starters from the crowd. Hold auditions. Something. Or is Theo making a point about how bare Hendry left the cupboard?
What would be the point of that? Can they fire Hendry again?
Who the fuck is this Sokolovich guy?
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 04, 2012, 08:00:01 PM
Who the fuck is this Sokolovich guy?
Is that old man Sokol's boy?
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 04, 2012, 08:00:01 PM
Who the fuck is this Sokolovich guy?
Hell, I don't recognise 4 out of the 5 pitchers listed on the box score
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 04, 2012, 08:53:49 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 04, 2012, 08:00:01 PM
Who the fuck is this Sokolovich guy?
Hell, I don't recognise 4 out of the 5 pitchers listed on the box score
Neither do I.
I just came over here to post in thread because I didn't have any idea who:
Jaye Chapman
Blake Parker
Miguel Socolovich
Alberto Cabrera
...and Anthony Recker are.
I'm glad to see I'm not alone.
I wouldn't have known who Dave Sappelt is, either, except I'm currently playing my 2014 season with the Cubs in OOTP, and he's an AAAA player who I can't quite bring myself to get rid of. I didn't, however, know that he's black.
Quote from: Tonker on September 05, 2012, 01:17:58 AM
I just came over here to post in thread because I didn't have any idea who:
Jaye Chapman
Blake Parker
Miguel Socolovich
Alberto Cabrera
...and Anthony Recker are.
I'm glad to see I'm not alone.
I wouldn't have known who Dave Sappelt is, either, except I'm currently playing my 2014 season with the Cubs in OOTP, and he's an AAAA player who I can't quite bring myself to get rid of. I didn't, however, know that he's black.
Bryce Harper was not the star I thought he'd be.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 05, 2012, 10:32:08 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 05, 2012, 01:17:58 AM
I just came over here to post in thread because I didn't have any idea who:
Jaye Chapman
Blake Parker
Miguel Socolovich
Alberto Cabrera
...and Anthony Recker are.
I'm glad to see I'm not alone.
I wouldn't have known who Dave Sappelt is, either, except I'm currently playing my 2014 season with the Cubs in OOTP, and he's an AAAA player who I can't quite bring myself to get rid of. I didn't, however, know that he's black.
Bryce Harper was not the star I thought he'd be.
On the subject of which, this dude (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=RF&sid=t450&t=p_pbp&pid=521656) is in the majors now and is an absolute monster. I brought him up around half way through the season and he batted .299/.399/.617 the rest of the way with 25HR and 71RBI in just 298 ABs.
Nice choice, Jim.
Quote from: Tonker on September 05, 2012, 11:15:21 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 05, 2012, 10:32:08 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 05, 2012, 01:17:58 AM
I just came over here to post in thread because I didn't have any idea who:
Jaye Chapman
Blake Parker
Miguel Socolovich
Alberto Cabrera
...and Anthony Recker are.
I'm glad to see I'm not alone.
I wouldn't have known who Dave Sappelt is, either, except I'm currently playing my 2014 season with the Cubs in OOTP, and he's an AAAA player who I can't quite bring myself to get rid of. I didn't, however, know that he's black.
Bryce Harper was not the star I thought he'd be.
On the subject of which, this dude (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=RF&sid=t450&t=p_pbp&pid=521656) is in the majors now and is an absolute monster. I brought him up around half way through the season and he batted .299/.399/.617 the rest of the way with 25HR and 71RBI in just 298 ABs.
Nice choice, Jim.
I didn't know you guys were playing this. I grabbed Carlos Peguero off waivers and he's turned into Barry Bonds lite. He's consistently (over three seasons) putting up .300/.400/.580 numbers. 40 and 100 three years in a row. He's incredible.
That said Starlin blew out his knee and never found his power. Rizzo fizzled out after half a season. The pitching is an absolute nightmare to try and rebuild. I've made the playoffs once and it didn't happen until 2016.
Brett Jackson however - keeper.
Quote from: Slaky on September 05, 2012, 01:14:34 PM
Quote from: Tonker on September 05, 2012, 11:15:21 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 05, 2012, 10:32:08 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 05, 2012, 01:17:58 AM
I just came over here to post in thread because I didn't have any idea who:
Jaye Chapman
Blake Parker
Miguel Socolovich
Alberto Cabrera
...and Anthony Recker are.
I'm glad to see I'm not alone.
I wouldn't have known who Dave Sappelt is, either, except I'm currently playing my 2014 season with the Cubs in OOTP, and he's an AAAA player who I can't quite bring myself to get rid of. I didn't, however, know that he's black.
Bryce Harper was not the star I thought he'd be.
On the subject of which, this dude (http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?pos=RF&sid=t450&t=p_pbp&pid=521656) is in the majors now and is an absolute monster. I brought him up around half way through the season and he batted .299/.399/.617 the rest of the way with 25HR and 71RBI in just 298 ABs.
Nice choice, Jim.
I didn't know you guys were playing this. I grabbed Carlos Peguero off waivers and he's turned into Barry Bonds lite. He's consistently (over three seasons) putting up .300/.400/.580 numbers. 40 and 100 three years in a row. He's incredible.
That said Starlin blew out his knee and never found his power. Rizzo fizzled out after half a season. The pitching is an absolute nightmare to try and rebuild. I've made the playoffs once and it didn't happen until 2016.
Brett Jackson however - keeper.
You statfags playing baseball simulation games and trying to lead the Cubs to a World Series when you could be doing something productive!
I play it too.
Who would have predicted last March, no, make that August 1, that Volstad would eventually be the most reliable starter on this team?
Quote from: CBStew on September 05, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
Who would have predicted last March, no, make that August 1, that Volstad would eventually be the most reliable starter on this team?
Volstad's mom.
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 05, 2012, 04:19:37 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 05, 2012, 04:13:43 PM
Who would have predicted last March, no, make that August 1, that Volstad would eventually be the most reliable starter on this team?
Volstad's mom.
She's higher than giraffe pussy.
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on September 04, 2012, 08:53:49 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 04, 2012, 08:00:01 PM
Who the fuck is this Sokolovich guy?
Hell, I don't recognise 4 out of the 5 pitchers listed on the box score
Only 5 pitchers to get through a game? I call shenanigans. With these scores, they have to be using at least 7.
Ava Carpenter, future serial killer.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/chris-carpenter-says-gave-rib-removed-during-surgery-213036319--mlb.html
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 20, 2012, 04:44:06 PM
Ava Carpenter, future serial killer.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/chris-carpenter-says-gave-rib-removed-during-surgery-213036319--mlb.html
I wonder what my mother and father did with my foreskin?
Quote from: CBStew on September 20, 2012, 08:23:10 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 20, 2012, 04:44:06 PM
Ava Carpenter, future serial killer.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/chris-carpenter-says-gave-rib-removed-during-surgery-213036319--mlb.html
I wonder what my mother and father did with my foreskin?
You mean before they sold it to gypsies?
Quote from: CBStew on September 20, 2012, 08:23:10 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 20, 2012, 04:44:06 PM
Ava Carpenter, future serial killer.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/chris-carpenter-says-gave-rib-removed-during-surgery-213036319--mlb.html
I wonder what my mother and father did with my foreskin?
Gave to to the mohel who saved all the foreskins from all the brisot he did and made a wallet out of them.
And, if you rub this wallet, it turns into a suitcase.
That still writes 5772 on its checks.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 20, 2012, 10:54:56 PM
Quote from: CBStew on September 20, 2012, 08:23:10 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on September 20, 2012, 04:44:06 PM
Ava Carpenter, future serial killer.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/chris-carpenter-says-gave-rib-removed-during-surgery-213036319--mlb.html
I wonder what my mother and father did with my foreskin?
Gave to to the mohel who saved all the foreskins from all the brisot he did and made a wallet out of them.
And, if you rub this wallet, it turns into a suitcase.
That still writes 5772 on its checks.
(http://i.imgur.com/jlZwe.jpg)
"He only took tips!"
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxGZrk8JQDg) happened.
Quote from: Fork on September 21, 2012, 01:30:05 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxGZrk8JQDg) happened.
1 AM in East Lakeview...this is news?
Andy's concession speech: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/concession-speech-2012-chicago-cubs-150055580--mlb.html#more-50188
Quote from: PANK! on September 21, 2012, 01:41:54 PM
Quote from: Fork on September 21, 2012, 01:30:05 PM
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxGZrk8JQDg) happened.
1 AM in East Lakeview...this is news?
From the Deadspin Q/A:
Would you have preferred to make it on Deadspin for this or for being the guy caught screwing some chick in the Yankee's bathroom?
JulianDalrymple: WOW! Good question! I wouldn't fuck that woman in a Yankee's bathroom with Bea Arthur's dick!Edit
Quote from: Gilgamesh on September 21, 2012, 03:19:54 PM
Andy's concession speech: http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/concession-speech-2012-chicago-cubs-150055580--mlb.html#more-50188
20 question marks might be a record even for Andy.
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Beef Wellington. Not bad.)
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Garbanzo Beefz Wellington. Not bad.)
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 07:44:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Garbanzo Beefz Wellington. Not bad.)
Shouldn't you be pumping some breast milk?
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
When it comes to actually catching the ball and making it presentable for the umpire he is quite bad. Throwing, pretty decent.
Quote from: Slaky on September 26, 2012, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
When it comes to actually catching the ball and making it presentable for the umpire he is quite bad. Throwing, pretty decent.
You know, I was talling somebody the other day that I thought he wasn't framing the ball the other day, and now at least I know I'm not the only one who noticed it.
Boy, that Hank White...HE could yank a ball into the strike zone.
Quote from: Fork on September 26, 2012, 08:58:13 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 26, 2012, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
When it comes to actually catching the ball and making it presentable for the umpire he is quite bad. Throwing, pretty decent.
You know, I was talling somebody the other day that I thought he wasn't framing the ball the other day, and now at least I know I'm not the only one who noticed it.
Boy, that Hank White...HE could yank a ball into the strike zone.
The whole talling?
Quote from: Slaky on September 26, 2012, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
When it comes to actually catching the ball and making it presentable for the umpire he is quite bad. Throwing, pretty decent.
All I know is, when Koyie Hill starts, the Cubs win games. Can't they get him back?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2012, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 26, 2012, 08:58:13 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 26, 2012, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
When it comes to actually catching the ball and making it presentable for the umpire he is quite bad. Throwing, pretty decent.
You know, I was talling somebody the other day that I thought he wasn't framing the ball the other day, and now at least I know I'm not the only one who noticed it.
Boy, that Hank White...HE could yank a ball into the strike zone.
The whole talling?
The whole other day?
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 09:29:32 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 26, 2012, 09:12:38 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 26, 2012, 08:58:13 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 26, 2012, 08:53:03 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
When it comes to actually catching the ball and making it presentable for the umpire he is quite bad. Throwing, pretty decent.
You know, I was talling somebody the other day that I thought he wasn't framing the ball the other day, and now at least I know I'm not the only one who noticed it.
Boy, that Hank White...HE could yank a ball into the strike zone.
The whole talling?
The whole other day?
You know I tend to ramble.
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 07:44:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Garbanzo Beefz Wellington. Not bad.)
Shouldn't you be pumping some breast milk?
What?
Quote from: CT III on September 26, 2012, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 07:44:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Garbanzo Beefz Wellington. Not bad.)
Shouldn't you be pumping some breast milk?
What?
I put breast milk on my Crispix.
Quote from: CT III on September 26, 2012, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 07:44:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Garbanzo Beefz Wellington. Not bad.)
Shouldn't you be pumping some breast milk?
What?
See... Huey got all butthurt one day after Bort called him a whiskey-addled, potato-headed, pot-licking Hibernian bog-stomper on Facebook for making a joke about Bort taking "paternity leave" from one of his 25 "jobs".
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 26, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
Quote from: CT III on September 26, 2012, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 07:44:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Garbanzo Beefz Wellington. Not bad.)
Shouldn't you be pumping some breast milk?
What?
See... Huey got all butthurt one day after Bort called him a whiskey-addled, potato-headed, pot-licking Hibernian bog-stomper on Facebook for making a joke about Bort taking "paternity leave" from one of his 25 "jobs".
Then I got lost on the way to my WOFFORD GAME.
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 26, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
Quote from: CT III on September 26, 2012, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 07:44:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Garbanzo Beefz Wellington. Not bad.)
Shouldn't you be pumping some breast milk?
What?
See... Huey got all butthurt one day after Bort called him a whiskey-addled, potato-headed, pot-licking Hibernian bog-stomper on Facebook for making a joke about Bort taking "paternity leave" from one of his 25 "jobs".
Then I got lost on the way to my WOFFORD GAME.
Oh hey, look at the fancy boy helping out with child rearing. Huey was back in the salt mines less than an hour after he force-fed taters and Guinness to his newborn children.
Quote from: R-V on September 26, 2012, 12:12:54 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 26, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
Quote from: CT III on September 26, 2012, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 07:44:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Garbanzo Beefz Wellington. Not bad.)
Shouldn't you be pumping some breast milk?
What?
See... Huey got all butthurt one day after Bort called him a whiskey-addled, potato-headed, pot-licking Hibernian bog-stomper on Facebook for making a joke about Bort taking "paternity leave" from one of his 25 "jobs".
Then I got lost on the way to my WOFFORD GAME.
Oh hey, look at the fancy boy helping out with child rearing. Huey was back in the salt cabbage mines less than an hour after he force-fed taters and Guinness to his newborn children.
Begorrah'd.
Hilariously, the only "job" I was taking leave from was my Friday night titty show. The regular job? Not so much.
Quote from: R-V on September 26, 2012, 12:12:54 PM
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 11:58:41 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 26, 2012, 11:25:37 AM
Quote from: CT III on September 26, 2012, 10:42:30 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 08:27:02 AM
Quote from: Bort on September 26, 2012, 07:44:27 AM
Quote from: PANK! on September 26, 2012, 05:54:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 26, 2012, 03:13:05 AM
Hands up - who knew that Wellington Castillo was batting .289/.363/.461/.823 with 5 HR, 11 2B and 18 BB in just 152 AB?
No, me neither. I have no idea what he's like behind the plate but with the bat, that's more than respectable. I know it's a small sample size but there are plenty of Cubs out there who managed to be shit in a small sample size, so I'm going to take what I can get.
*raises hand*
(only because I happened to catch that yesterday myself...not bad, Garbanzo Beefz Wellington. Not bad.)
Shouldn't you be pumping some breast milk?
What?
See... Huey got all butthurt one day after Bort called him a whiskey-addled, potato-headed, pot-licking Hibernian bog-stomper on Facebook for making a joke about Bort taking "paternity leave" from one of his 25 "jobs".
Then I got lost on the way to my WOFFORD GAME.
Oh hey, look at the fancy boy helping out with child rearing. Huey was back in the salt mines less than an hour after he force-fed taters and Guinness to his newborn children.
Aye. 'Tis true!
This is a rebuilding thread.
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
Honestly, I don't have a problem with this. I don't really see the point of it, either, but if it makes some people happy then, well, fine. Whatever. I'm certainly not going to flid out about it, man.
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2012, 08:24:18 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
Honestly, I don't have a problem with this. I don't really see the point of it, either, but if it makes some people happy then, well, fine. Whatever. I'm certainly not going to flid out about it, man.
Once Greenberg finds out he's playing for Ozzie, he'll quit.
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2012, 08:24:18 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
Honestly, I don't have a problem with this. I don't really see the point of it, either, but if it makes some people happy then, well, fine. Whatever. I'm certainly not going to flid out about it, man.
This opens the door to us getting BC an at-bat with the Cubs.
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
Back that asshole off the plate.
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The
Other Three True Outcomes.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 27, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The Other Three True Outcomes.
It's just nice to know there are owners like Jeffrey Loria, who are there do the the
right thing.
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2012, 08:24:18 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
Honestly, I don't have a problem with this. I don't really see the point of it, either, but if it makes some people happy then, well, fine. Whatever. I'm certainly not going to flid out about it, man.
Just to clarify, getting undeserved ABs is cool, nothing to freak out about.
Having strokes, however, is something to celebrate.
Did I do that right?
Quote from: PenPho on September 27, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2012, 08:24:18 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
Honestly, I don't have a problem with this. I don't really see the point of it, either, but if it makes some people happy then, well, fine. Whatever. I'm certainly not going to flid out about it, man.
Just to clarify, getting undeserved ABs is cool, nothing to freak out about.
Having strokes, however, is something to celebrate.
Did I do that right?
How about having a stroke during an undeserved at-bat?
Quote from: PenPho on September 27, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2012, 08:24:18 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
Honestly, I don't have a problem with this. I don't really see the point of it, either, but if it makes some people happy then, well, fine. Whatever. I'm certainly not going to flid out about it, man.
Just to clarify, getting undeserved ABs is cool, nothing to freak out about.
Having strokes, however, is something to celebrate.
Did I do that right?
Celebrating or laughing at?
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
The Marlins already clinched that title when the hired Ozzie.
Quote from: BH on September 27, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 27, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The Other Three True Outcomes.
It's just nice to know there are owners like Jeffrey Loria, who are there do the the right thing.
My uninformed opinion. Loria is Jewish. Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the day when Jews are required to ask forgiveness from those whom they have wronged. To atone is to make things right. I believe that this was a Yom Kippur gesture since it was a Marlins pitcher who ended the major league career of Adam Greenberg, and turned his career into an anecdote. Greenberg, is Jewish. But that should have nothing to do with the obligation. I approve of the gesture.
Quote from: CBStew on September 27, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: BH on September 27, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 27, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The Other Three True Outcomes.
It's just nice to know there are owners like Jeffrey Loria, who are there do the the right thing.
My uninformed opinion. Loria is Jewish. Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the day when Jews are required to ask forgiveness from those whom they have wronged. To atone is to make things right. I believe that this was a Yom Kippur gesture since it was a Marlins pitcher who ended the major league career of Adam Greenberg, and turned his career into an anecdote. Greenberg, is Jewish. But that should have nothing to do with the obligation. I approve of the gesture.
OR...
It's a complete publicity stunt by a owner who's team has had an amazingly disappointing season after working with MLB to bully the taxpayers into a new stadium and he's hoping this will win him at least a modicum of goodwill among the community (many of whom, being South Floridians, may see the charm in a Jewish owner extending an opportunity to a Jewish ballplayer - who even plays for Israel in the WBC!!! What a nice man, his mother must be so proud. What can't our Isaac be more like him?)
Quote from: PenPho on September 28, 2012, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on September 27, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: BH on September 27, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 27, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The Other Three True Outcomes.
It's just nice to know there are owners like Jeffrey Loria, who are there do the the right thing.
My uninformed opinion. Loria is Jewish. Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the day when Jews are required to ask forgiveness from those whom they have wronged. To atone is to make things right. I believe that this was a Yom Kippur gesture since it was a Marlins pitcher who ended the major league career of Adam Greenberg, and turned his career into an anecdote. Greenberg, is Jewish. But that should have nothing to do with the obligation. I approve of the gesture.
OR...
It's a complete publicity stunt by a owner who's team has had an amazingly disappointing season after working with MLB to bully the taxpayers into a new stadium and he's hoping this will win him at least a modicum of goodwill among the community (many of whom, being South Floridians, may see the charm in a Jewish owner extending an opportunity to a Jewish ballplayer - who even plays for Israel in the WBC!!! What a nice man, his mother must be so proud. What can't our Isaac be more like him?)
The whole's team?
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
Quote from: PenPho on September 28, 2012, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on September 27, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: BH on September 27, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 27, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The Other Three True Outcomes.
It's just nice to know there are owners like Jeffrey Loria, who are there do the the right thing.
My uninformed opinion. Loria is Jewish. Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the day when Jews are required to ask forgiveness from those whom they have wronged. To atone is to make things right. I believe that this was a Yom Kippur gesture since it was a Marlins pitcher who ended the major league career of Adam Greenberg, and turned his career into an anecdote. Greenberg, is Jewish. But that should have nothing to do with the obligation. I approve of the gesture.
OR...
It's a complete publicity stunt by a owner who's team has had an amazingly disappointing season after working with MLB to bully the taxpayers into a new stadium and he's hoping this will win him at least a modicum of goodwill among the community (many of whom, being South Floridians, may see the charm in a Jewish owner extending an opportunity to a Jewish ballplayer - who even plays for Israel in the WBC!!! What a nice man, his mother must be so proud. What can't our Isaac be more like him?)
The whole's team?
I think Pen asks a good question. Who
IS team? Could a owner tell us, perhaps?
Quote from: Tonker on September 28, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
Quote from: PenPho on September 28, 2012, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on September 27, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: BH on September 27, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 27, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The Other Three True Outcomes.
It's just nice to know there are owners like Jeffrey Loria, who are there do the the right thing.
My uninformed opinion. Loria is Jewish. Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the day when Jews are required to ask forgiveness from those whom they have wronged. To atone is to make things right. I believe that this was a Yom Kippur gesture since it was a Marlins pitcher who ended the major league career of Adam Greenberg, and turned his career into an anecdote. Greenberg, is Jewish. But that should have nothing to do with the obligation. I approve of the gesture.
OR...
It's a complete publicity stunt by a owner who's team has had an amazingly disappointing season after working with MLB to bully the taxpayers into a new stadium and he's hoping this will win him at least a modicum of goodwill among the community (many of whom, being South Floridians, may see the charm in a Jewish owner extending an opportunity to a Jewish ballplayer - who even plays for Israel in the WBC!!! What a nice man, his mother must be so proud. What can't our Isaac be more like him?)
The whole's team?
I think Pen asks a good question. Who IS team? Could a owner tell us, perhaps?
CT would probably love a good "HELLO, YES, THIS IS TEAM" meme right about now.
Quote from: Tonker on September 28, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
Quote from: PenPho on September 28, 2012, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on September 27, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: BH on September 27, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 27, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The Other Three True Outcomes.
It's just nice to know there are owners like Jeffrey Loria, who are there do the the right thing.
My uninformed opinion. Loria is Jewish. Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the day when Jews are required to ask forgiveness from those whom they have wronged. To atone is to make things right. I believe that this was a Yom Kippur gesture since it was a Marlins pitcher who ended the major league career of Adam Greenberg, and turned his career into an anecdote. Greenberg, is Jewish. But that should have nothing to do with the obligation. I approve of the gesture.
OR...
It's a complete publicity stunt by a owner who's team has had an amazingly disappointing season after working with MLB to bully the taxpayers into a new stadium and he's hoping this will win him at least a modicum of goodwill among the community (many of whom, being South Floridians, may see the charm in a Jewish owner extending an opportunity to a Jewish ballplayer - who even plays for Israel in the WBC!!! What a nice man, his mother must be so proud. What can't our Isaac be more like him?)
The whole's team?
I think Pen asks a good question. Who IS team? Could a owner tell us, perhaps?
I read it as a statement that the OWNER is team. Many of us often blame the owner for a team's difficulties; Pen is merely taking that to its logical conclusion.
The Cubs are 0-17 against the NL West? Ho Lee Shit.
Quote from: Brownie on September 29, 2012, 10:15:01 AM
The Cubs are 0-17 against the NL West? Ho Lee Shit.
Seabiscuit's Jockey is drunk. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0929-cubs-dbacks-chicago--20120929,0,4702278.story)
They're 0-17 AT the NL West, and 11-4 at home vs. the NL West.
If they lose the next 2 in Arizona (which, I understand PenFoe left) and sweep Houston, they'll have 100 losses, but only be 1 under .500 at home.
They're going to lose 100 games, aren't they?
Quote from: Brownie on September 29, 2012, 10:22:36 AM
Quote from: Brownie on September 29, 2012, 10:15:01 AM
The Cubs are 0-17 against the NL West? Ho Lee Shit.
Seabiscuit's Jockey is drunk. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0929-cubs-dbacks-chicago--20120929,0,4702278.story)
They're 0-17 AT the NL West, and 11-4 at home vs. the NL West.
If they lose the next 2 in Arizona (which, I understand PenFoe left) and sweep Houston, they'll have 100 losses, but only be 1 under .500 at home.
Help me out here, are these numbers significant?
Quote from: morpheus on September 29, 2012, 08:50:46 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 28, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
Quote from: PenPho on September 28, 2012, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on September 27, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: BH on September 27, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 27, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The Other Three True Outcomes.
It's just nice to know there are owners like Jeffrey Loria, who are there do the the right thing.
My uninformed opinion. Loria is Jewish. Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the day when Jews are required to ask forgiveness from those whom they have wronged. To atone is to make things right. I believe that this was a Yom Kippur gesture since it was a Marlins pitcher who ended the major league career of Adam Greenberg, and turned his career into an anecdote. Greenberg, is Jewish. But that should have nothing to do with the obligation. I approve of the gesture.
OR...
It's a complete publicity stunt by a owner who's team has had an amazingly disappointing season after working with MLB to bully the taxpayers into a new stadium and he's hoping this will win him at least a modicum of goodwill among the community (many of whom, being South Floridians, may see the charm in a Jewish owner extending an opportunity to a Jewish ballplayer - who even plays for Israel in the WBC!!! What a nice man, his mother must be so proud. What can't our Isaac be more like him?)
The whole's team?
I think Pen asks a good question. Who IS team? Could a owner tell us, perhaps?
I read it as a statement that the A OWNER is team. Many of us often blame the owner for a team's difficulties; Pen is merely taking that to its logical conclusion.
I think this is what you meant.
Quote from: Tonker on September 29, 2012, 12:27:55 PM
Quote from: morpheus on September 29, 2012, 08:50:46 AM
Quote from: Tonker on September 28, 2012, 10:45:39 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on September 28, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
Quote from: PenPho on September 28, 2012, 10:28:38 AM
Quote from: CBStew on September 27, 2012, 05:32:40 PM
Quote from: BH on September 27, 2012, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on September 27, 2012, 09:36:10 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Quote from: Slaky on September 27, 2012, 09:14:30 AM
Quote from: morpheus on September 27, 2012, 08:46:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteGreenberg recently played for Israel in the World Baseball Classic qualifying round in Jupiter, September 19-23, walking in his only plate appearance.
The Mets should IBB him.
Or just hit him in the head.
I thought it would complete the non-at-bat trifecta. HBP, BB, IBB.
The Other Three True Outcomes.
It's just nice to know there are owners like Jeffrey Loria, who are there do the the right thing.
My uninformed opinion. Loria is Jewish. Yesterday was Yom Kippur, the day when Jews are required to ask forgiveness from those whom they have wronged. To atone is to make things right. I believe that this was a Yom Kippur gesture since it was a Marlins pitcher who ended the major league career of Adam Greenberg, and turned his career into an anecdote. Greenberg, is Jewish. But that should have nothing to do with the obligation. I approve of the gesture.
OR...
It's a complete publicity stunt by a owner who's team has had an amazingly disappointing season after working with MLB to bully the taxpayers into a new stadium and he's hoping this will win him at least a modicum of goodwill among the community (many of whom, being South Floridians, may see the charm in a Jewish owner extending an opportunity to a Jewish ballplayer - who even plays for Israel in the WBC!!! What a nice man, his mother must be so proud. What can't our Isaac be more like him?)
The whole's team?
I think Pen asks a good question. Who IS team? Could a owner tell us, perhaps?
I read it as a statement that the A uh OWNER is team. Many of us often blame the owner for a team's difficulties; Pen is merely taking that to its logical conclusion.
I think this is what you meant.
In American.
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Hey, I said "-30-"!
Stop posting!
Quote from: Fork on September 27, 2012, 08:19:58 AM
The Cubs are no longer the dumbest team in baseball (http://miami.marlins.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120927&content_id=39098674&vkey=pr_mlb&c_id=mia).
QuoteIn reflecting on the Today stories he most enjoys, Lauer delights in the tale of Adam Greenberg, a baseball player who was hit in the head on the first pitch of his first appearance in 2005 and never returned. After an online petition last year, the Florida Marlins gave him one at-bat, and while Greenberg struck out on three pitches, he was happy when Lauer interviewed him the next day.
"It was about getting back up when you're knocked down," says Lauer, who is clearly ready for more at-bats.
And they wonder why Today has slipped in the ratings (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/11/matt-lauer-s-bruising-year-after-ann-curry-s-ouster-devastated-thetoday-show.html).