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Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2014, 02:02:44 PM

Quote from: BH on August 08, 2014, 01:57:35 PM

Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2014, 01:55:03 PM

Quote from: Slaky on August 08, 2014, 10:03:44 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2014, 09:10:39 AM
Bryant SKOwarber & Zagunis with dongs last night.

Underwood with another good outing - as much as we get giddy about the bats in the system, there are some pretty lively arms too.

Zagunis is a very minor prospect but the guy has really interesting skills. Not much defensively at catcher as of now but he gets on base like crazy. One to keep an eye on peripherally.

Yeah, kind of like Vogelbach. He'll get to the big leagues, just not as a Cub.

Huh? Why will he be traded? The Cubs don't have surplus at catcher.

Vogelbach is a first baseman. Schwarber plays some catcher. You mixed up your fatties.

I read Fork's post as Zagunis being traded to another team.

Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2014, 01:55:03 PM

Quote from: Slaky on August 08, 2014, 10:03:44 AM

Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2014, 09:10:39 AM
Bryant SKOwarber & Zagunis with dongs last night.

Underwood with another good outing - as much as we get giddy about the bats in the system, there are some pretty lively arms too.

Zagunis is a very minor prospect but the guy has really interesting skills. Not much defensively at catcher as of now but he gets on base like crazy. One to keep an eye on peripherally.

Yeah, kind of like Vogelbach. He'll get to the big leagues, just not as a Cub.

Huh? Why will he be traded? The Cubs don't have surplus at catcher.

Quote from: Richard Chuggar on August 08, 2014, 10:26:41 AM

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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 03:04:39 PM

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Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 11:29:20 AM

Quote from: thehawk on August 07, 2014, 09:52:24 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?

Can they also convince Hamels to come here?  Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.

If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.

You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).

Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.

Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.

Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.

Is this a green fonted post?  I hope so. 

Which part of it seems sarcastic? The part where Hamels will be really good for five years? Or the part where they shouldn't trade anything of value for him?

The part about good for 5 more years, along with the part where it says that he doesn't get paid a ton. 

He's paid near market value for how good he is. That's doesn't make him overpaid. He's got 4 years left on his deal, with a 5th year buyout.
He's projected at +15 WAR for the next 5 seasons. For 5 years, $109 million or 4 years, $96 million he's worth the risk.
But only if you don't have to give up prospects and have to pay his salary. No green font.

Quote from: Fork on August 08, 2014, 09:05:28 AM

Quote from: BH on August 08, 2014, 09:02:35 AM

Quote from: InternetApex on August 08, 2014, 08:55:02 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 03:04:39 PM

Quote from: thehawk on August 07, 2014, 02:58:53 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 11:29:20 AM

Quote from: thehawk on August 07, 2014, 09:52:24 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?

Can they also convince Hamels to come here?  Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.

If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.

You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).

Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.

Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.

Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.

The Cubs are better served waiting a couple months and getting an arm that only costs a second round pick.

Lester won't cost a pick because he was traded.

I look forward to someone trying to challenge Baez with a fastball, he might knock down one of the rooftop buildings.

Quote from: InternetApex on August 08, 2014, 08:55:02 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 03:04:39 PM

Quote from: thehawk on August 07, 2014, 02:58:53 PM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 11:29:20 AM

Quote from: thehawk on August 07, 2014, 09:52:24 AM

Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 07, 2014, 02:26:52 AM
Claimed Cole Hamels. Can they get a deal done without trading core guys? Maybe Almora?

Can they also convince Hamels to come here?  Doesn't look like a trade is likely even if he does (Amarao seems to like his own guys way too much), but its good to see the Cubs making the claim.

If I'm the owner I don't think Ruben would need to worry about this stuff much longer.

You're right, but they aren't likely to launch him in the next 48 hours (when this trade would have to be done).

Maybe they can convince him that Ryno was constantly bashing Hamels before they hired him and wants him to get hurt. Pull out all the stops.

Hamels would seem to have more value to a contending team. I really hope Epstink wouldn't give up any top prospects for him. Let the Giants give up their farm. To hell with this.

Hamels should be really good for at least 5 more years, and doesn't get paid a ton. He'd be great on the Cubs, but Amaro I'm sure wants Russell plus another top guy plus Cubs to pay all of Hamels salary, which is really stupid. To hell with this is right.

Quote from: R-V on August 04, 2014, 10:30:25 AM
Great news guys - Bryant will definitely be called up Sept. 1 now that Chuck has predicted he won't.

The only other guarantee is that when he signs an extension at some point, Chuck will hate the contract.

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Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2014, 09:44:19 AM

Quote from: Slaky on August 04, 2014, 09:38:18 AM
Starting to get the feeling this is the last Cubs season for a while where the win/loss at the end of each game means almost nothing. Yes, I realize losing is important for draft pick purposes and I'm sure they'll end up near the top of the draft again. Seems unavoidable. Not something I have to worry about as a fan.

If Soler and Baez are permanent fixtures next season and at least one top of the line starting pitcher comes in via FA, you can't tell me that even with people all saying "next year they'll be better but in 2016 they're going to be really good" are going to be able to help themselves. I think with those additions and the looming spectre of Kris Bryant's arrival fans are going to ready to go from day one. If the Cubs get off to a bad start people will be climbing over themselves to scream Fire Renteria because let's face it - Renteria managing games that matter is a terrifying proposition based on what we've seen.

So let's enjoy this stress free remainder of the season because I'm fairly certain this is it.

Welcome back, painful baseball.

Oh no doubt. And I don't think Bryant waits that long. I doubt they'll worry about Super 2 so I think he just needs to wait till May at the latest to get the extra year. So if you've got Baez, Soler, Bryant, and Mendy with Russell definitely lurking for a midseason callup, and some extra help in the rotation, you'd definitely think that team can win 78-85 games potentially, and with the Selig Card that'll be enough to keep them close enough to contending that we'll all be suckered in.

Would this be the right place for me to make my wild assed prediction that Baez, Bryant and Soler all get called up Sept. 1st? And that Theo lets it be known that they don't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration status for those guys because they've got a ton of payroll flexibility and they're going to start using it? And that they intend for all 3 of them to be on the big league team to start next season?

Even if that wouldn't be the optimal decision in terms of asset management I think it would send a nice message to potential FAs (hi Jon Lester!) that they're done fucking around.

If they didn't give a shit about Super 2 or arbitration, wouldn't they have already called up Baez instead of Valaika?

I think you could easily argue that Baez has needed a good amount of time in Iowa to continue working on his BB and K rates - which he's done. And that Soler just needed to get his legs back in an environment where he didn't have chubby smelly bearded weirdos hounding him after every game.

As for Bryant, I think most would agree he's ready and has been for some time, but without going too over the top with clubhouse chemistry bullplop, I do think there would be value in bringing multiple guys up at the same time so that one of them isn't the sole focus of thinkpieces by above referenced chubby smelly bearded weirdos. Maybe they were just waiting for the other two to be ready so they could all come up together.

No way Bryant comes up before next April 21ish. No chance given his agent. Theo's locking in year 7.  Soler is here the day after Iowa finishes its season.

Chuck knows Scott Boras guys, stop suggesting Bryant might get called up earlier because the Cubs have money.
They don't, they are a small market team now. And there is zero chance any of these guys resign, so the Kubbeez need to hold on to them as long as they can.

So the cubs got the 2 top prospects (Russell and Mckinley) traded in July. For Shark and Hammel. That's unreal.

Quote from: SKO on July 29, 2014, 12:44:28 PM
Apropos of nothing, does anyone remember when the Cubs couldn't dare fire Hendry in fear of losing Tim Wilken, the man that brought us Vitters and Jackson and Colvin? Wasn't that Gordo's stance?

Because I remembered that this morning and laughed heartily for a bit.

Fyi, Tim Wilken still works for the cubs.

Quote from: R-V on July 18, 2014, 08:45:48 AM

Quote from: BH on July 18, 2014, 08:08:37 AM
I know prospects never work out, but last night they all pretty much homered (Bryant, Baez, Russell, Soler).
This is getting absurd, and they seem to be feeding off each other.

Bryant was 3-5 with a double and homer. Baez 2-4 with a double and a homer. Russell 2-4 with a homer. Soler 1-2 with homer and 2 walks.

Another example of the failed Epstine administration - they can't even provide these so-called prospects with enough to eat.

+12345

I know prospects never work out, but last night they all pretty much homered (Bryant, Baez, Russell, Soler).
This is getting absurd, and they seem to be feeding off each other.

Bryant was 3-5 with a double and homer. Baez 2-4 with a double and a homer. Russell 2-4 with a homer. Soler 1-2 with homer and 2 walks.

Quote from: PenFoe on July 17, 2014, 03:58:40 PM
When you wonder "How could any state elect Jan Brewer to be Governor" it's important to understand the alternatives.

Do you still miss it?

Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 17, 2014, 02:51:49 PM

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Quote from: CT III on July 17, 2014, 01:24:51 PM
Can somebody explain to me what's going on here?

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2014/7/16/5896215/occams-razor-arismendy-alcantara

QuoteWhile baseball isn't a celestial game being run by a dice-rolling game-master, the premise makes a bit of sense

No, no it doesn't. Sorry.

I'm impressed you got that far. There's nothing better than an article in which the very first sentence is incorrect.

QuoteOccam's Razor is a belief that "the easiest explanation is often the best explanation."

Lots of people giving recs and LSAs in the comments about what a great read it was.  (One even called it an example of great "analysis.")  Because BCB.

OccamzRazorBeanz is Contra's new nickname.

Quote from: Fork on July 17, 2014, 01:38:05 PM

Quote from: BH on July 17, 2014, 08:06:33 AM
Johnny Winter, dead at 70.

One of the times I left a show before the headliner was when I saw Johnny Winter open for George Thorogood in 1991(?). What an amazing player. Thank Gord we'll always have his recordings.

He truly was. I'm still pretty convinced he died 20 years ago and he now just realized it.