So, when do the Cubs start to draft (http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/67565098/v82575583/?query=jon%2Bharris) a pitching (http://m.mlb.com/video/v37009197) staff (http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/67565098/v37009151/?query=walker%2Bbuehler)to go with their stable full of studs?
Personally, I HOPE DEY SIGN DAT NINTENDO (http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/67565098/v85680383/?query=benintendi) GUY MY FRENTS.
This thread title just gave me a seizure.
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 09:43:00 AM
This thread title just gave me a seizure.
For a second I thought someone was starting a really weird and belated Ryan Kalish splooge thread in awful meatballese.
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 09:43:00 AM
This thread title just gave me a seizure.
It looked like one of the chain emails my mother forwards to me.
Quote from: SKO on June 08, 2015, 09:58:02 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 09:43:00 AM
This thread title just gave me a seizure.
For a second I thought someone was starting a really weird and belated Ryan Kalish splooge thread in awful meatballese.
Same.
I'm all in on Benintendi too, but I'm pretty much excited for all these guys (surprise, surprise.)
I don't want Aiken, but if they take him, I will do the quickest 180 in history on that, because it'll mean they like what they saw from his medicals (to whatever extent they were able to really access them) and think he'll be ready to contribute in less than a million years.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
I'm all in on Benintendi too, but I'm pretty much excited for all these guys (surprise, surprise.)
I don't want Aiken, but if they take him, I will do the quickest 180 in history on that, because it'll mean they like what they saw from his medicals (to whatever extent they were able to really access them) and think he'll be ready to contribute in less than a million years.
So you mean you do want Aiken, unless you don't?
Is there any chance Tyler Jay falls to them at 9? I ask because (a) I'm a homer douche who thinks it would be kind of cool to have one of those twice-a-decade or so moments where it's actually fun to be an Illini fan and (b) given his COLLEGE POLISH he could probably contribute to the big league bullpen this year, no? Now that CJ Edwards went and changed his pitching hand on us, wouldn't hurt to have a nasty lefty in the pen.
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 10:21:52 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
I'm all in on Benintendi too, but I'm pretty much excited for all these guys (surprise, surprise.)
I don't want Aiken, but if they take him, I will do the quickest 180 in history on that, because it'll mean they like what they saw from his medicals (to whatever extent they were able to really access them) and think he'll be ready to contribute in less than a million years.
So you mean you do want Aiken, unless you don't?
No, I mean I don't want Aiken, unless I do.
Quote from: R-V on June 08, 2015, 10:22:22 AM
Is there any chance Tyler Jay falls to them at 9? I ask because (a) I'm a homer douche who thinks it would be kind of cool to have one of those twice-a-decade or so moments where it's actually fun to be an Illini fan and (b) given his COLLEGE POLISH he could probably contribute to the big league bullpen this year, no? Now that CJ Edwards went and changed his pitching hand on us, wouldn't hurt to have a nasty lefty in the pen.
One of the mocks I read (Keith Law's? Not sure) had Jay falling to them, but it's the only one I've seen that did out of probably 10-12.
This really is a terrible thread title though.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:56:59 AM
This really is a terrible thread title though.
Thank you. It takes skill to craft something quite that minging, you know.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:23:27 AM
Quote from: R-V on June 08, 2015, 10:22:22 AM
Is there any chance Tyler Jay falls to them at 9? I ask because (a) I'm a homer douche who thinks it would be kind of cool to have one of those twice-a-decade or so moments where it's actually fun to be an Illini fan and (b) given his COLLEGE POLISH he could probably contribute to the big league bullpen this year, no? Now that CJ Edwards went and changed his pitching hand on us, wouldn't hurt to have a nasty lefty in the pen.
One of the mocks I read (Keith Law's? Not sure) had Jay falling to them, but it's the only one I've seen that did out of probably 10-12.
Pretty much all the others have him going to the Rockies at 3 or the Twins at 6.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
I'm all in on Benintendi too, but I'm pretty much excited for all these guys (surprise, surprise.)
I don't want Aiken, but if they take him, I will do the quickest 180 in history on that, because it'll mean they like what they saw from his medicals (to whatever extent they were able to really access them) and think he'll be ready to contribute in less than a million years.
This is amusing, because Aiken is the only guy they could potentially get at 9 who should be immediately* exciting. Everyone else has enough question marks where the proper course of action should be to just WASHIPO.
* Meaning, exciting to follow his box scores at Eugene this year.
Oh man I finally just realized what the hell this thread title actually is trying to say and no, no. BAD TONK. BAD.
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
I'm all in on Benintendi too, but I'm pretty much excited for all these guys (surprise, surprise.)
I don't want Aiken, but if they take him, I will do the quickest 180 in history on that, because it'll mean they like what they saw from his medicals (to whatever extent they were able to really access them) and think he'll be ready to contribute in less than a million years.
This is amusing, because Aiken is the only guy they could potentially get at 9 who should be immediately* exciting. Everyone else has enough question marks where the proper course of action should be to just WASHIPO.
* Meaning, exciting to follow his box scores at Eugene this year.
I don't understand this at all. Brady Aiken had TJ Surgery 2.5 months ago.
He's not pitching in Eugene or anywhere this year.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
I'm all in on Benintendi too, but I'm pretty much excited for all these guys (surprise, surprise.)
I don't want Aiken, but if they take him, I will do the quickest 180 in history on that, because it'll mean they like what they saw from his medicals (to whatever extent they were able to really access them) and think he'll be ready to contribute in less than a million years.
This is amusing, because Aiken is the only guy they could potentially get at 9 who should be immediately* exciting. Everyone else has enough question marks where the proper course of action should be to just WASHIPO.
* Meaning, exciting to follow his box scores at Eugene this year.
I don't understand this at all. Brady Aiken had TJ Surgery 2.5 months ago.
He's not pitching in Eugene or anywhere this year.
I learned recently that nothing is impossible, so take your naysaying elsewhere.
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 11:46:26 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
I'm all in on Benintendi too, but I'm pretty much excited for all these guys (surprise, surprise.)
I don't want Aiken, but if they take him, I will do the quickest 180 in history on that, because it'll mean they like what they saw from his medicals (to whatever extent they were able to really access them) and think he'll be ready to contribute in less than a million years.
This is amusing, because Aiken is the only guy they could potentially get at 9 who should be immediately* exciting. Everyone else has enough question marks where the proper course of action should be to just WASHIPO.
* Meaning, exciting to follow his box scores at Eugene this year.
I don't understand this at all. Brady Aiken had TJ Surgery 2.5 months ago.
He's not pitching in Eugene or anywhere this year.
I learned recently that nothing is impossible, so take your naysaying elsewhere.
This is amusing, because you're both wrong and smug about it.
And, to save you the time.
Intrepid Reader: SomeoneCan I get an irony ruling, CT?
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 11:46:26 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
I'm all in on Benintendi too, but I'm pretty much excited for all these guys (surprise, surprise.)
I don't want Aiken, but if they take him, I will do the quickest 180 in history on that, because it'll mean they like what they saw from his medicals (to whatever extent they were able to really access them) and think he'll be ready to contribute in less than a million years.
This is amusing, because Aiken is the only guy they could potentially get at 9 who should be immediately* exciting. Everyone else has enough question marks where the proper course of action should be to just WASHIPO.
* Meaning, exciting to follow his box scores at Eugene this year.
I don't understand this at all. Brady Aiken had TJ Surgery 2.5 months ago.
He's not pitching in Eugene or anywhere this year.
I learned recently that nothing is impossible, so take your naysaying elsewhere.
This is amusing, because you're both wrong and smug about it.
And, to save you the time.
Intrepid Reader: Someone
Can I get an irony ruling, CT?
Fair enough. I do stand by my first point though. Aiken's is the guy most likely to have franchise-changing ability and I think he's worth the risk, given how much depth is already in the Cubs system. If he busts, they can absorb it.
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 12:00:13 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 11:48:33 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 11:46:26 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 11:40:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 11:32:23 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:18:06 AM
I'm all in on Benintendi too, but I'm pretty much excited for all these guys (surprise, surprise.)
I don't want Aiken, but if they take him, I will do the quickest 180 in history on that, because it'll mean they like what they saw from his medicals (to whatever extent they were able to really access them) and think he'll be ready to contribute in less than a million years.
This is amusing, because Aiken is the only guy they could potentially get at 9 who should be immediately* exciting. Everyone else has enough question marks where the proper course of action should be to just WASHIPO.
* Meaning, exciting to follow his box scores at Eugene this year.
I don't understand this at all. Brady Aiken had TJ Surgery 2.5 months ago.
He's not pitching in Eugene or anywhere this year.
I learned recently that nothing is impossible, so take your naysaying elsewhere.
This is amusing, because you're both wrong and smug about it.
And, to save you the time.
Intrepid Reader: Someone
Can I get an irony ruling, CT?
Fair enough. I do stand by my first point though. Aiken's is the guy most likely to have franchise-changing ability and I think he's worth the risk, given how much depth is already in the Cubs system. If he busts, they can absorb it.
I don't disagree with the franchise-changing ability.
If they do take him, I'll assume it to me that they think he'll be healthy to make a difference, in which case he's the best player in the draft, hence the quick 180 I'll do.
Quote from: R-V on June 08, 2015, 10:22:22 AM
Is there any chance Tyler Jay falls to them at 9? I ask because (a) I'm a homer douche who thinks it would be kind of cool to have one of those twice-a-decade or so moments where it's actually fun to be an Illini fan and (b) given his COLLEGE POLISH he could probably contribute to the big league bullpen this year, no? Now that CJ Edwards went and changed his pitching hand on us, wouldn't hurt to have a nasty lefty in the pen.
Sorry bruh. The BFIB already called dibs. (https://mobile.twitter.com/williamfleitch/status/607927344636903424)
(And Peter King approves of this pointless nugget. (https://mobile.twitter.com/williamfleitch/status/607928779713998850))
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 08, 2015, 12:44:14 PM
Quote from: R-V on June 08, 2015, 10:22:22 AM
Is there any chance Tyler Jay falls to them at 9? I ask because (a) I'm a homer douche who thinks it would be kind of cool to have one of those twice-a-decade or so moments where it's actually fun to be an Illini fan and (b) given his COLLEGE POLISH he could probably contribute to the big league bullpen this year, no? Now that CJ Edwards went and changed his pitching hand on us, wouldn't hurt to have a nasty lefty in the pen.
Sorry bruh. The BFIB already called dibs. (https://mobile.twitter.com/williamfleitch/status/607927344636903424)
(And Peter King approves of this pointless nugget. (https://mobile.twitter.com/williamfleitch/status/607928779713998850))
WEIRD!
Manuel has the Cubs picking Jon Harris (http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mlb-mock-draft-2015-version-5-0/).
I've seen Harris in mocks everywhere from near 10 to around 20. I've never even watched YouTube of him.
Anyone seen him actually pitch?
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 08, 2015, 12:51:46 PM
Manuel has the Cubs picking Jon Harris (http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mlb-mock-draft-2015-version-5-0/).
I've seen Harris in mocks everywhere from near 10 to around 20. I've never even watched YouTube of him.
Anyone seen him actually pitch?
I'm not even convinced that Missouri State is a real school.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 08, 2015, 12:51:46 PM
Manuel has the Cubs picking Jon Harris (http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mlb-mock-draft-2015-version-5-0/).
I've seen Harris in mocks everywhere from near 10 to around 20. I've never even watched YouTube of him.
Anyone seen him actually pitch?
Is he better than Hayden Simpson? #fuckyouhendry
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 08, 2015, 12:51:46 PM
Manuel has the Cubs picking Jon Harris (http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mlb-mock-draft-2015-version-5-0/).
I've seen Harris in mocks everywhere from near 10 to around 20. I've never even watched YouTube of him.
Anyone seen him actually pitch?
You mean, apart from in the very, very first link in the very, very first post in this thread?
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 08, 2015, 12:51:46 PM
Manuel has the Cubs picking Jon Harris (http://www.baseballamerica.com/draft/mlb-mock-draft-2015-version-5-0/).
I've seen Harris in mocks everywhere from near 10 to around 20. I've never even watched YouTube of him.
Anyone seen him actually pitch?
I've never seen him pitch and I am very opposed to the Cubs drafting him.
Analytical stuff very pro-Jay
http://www.minorleagueball.com/2015/6/8/8744975/analytics-biased-look-at-a-select-group-of-2015-draft-eligible-ncaa?utm_campaign=minorleagueball&utm_content=fan-post%3Atop&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter#
I don't know much about this draft class other than Aiken, the two Vandy guys (Swanson and Fulmer), the Arkansas CF Benentindi and LSU SS Alex Bregman. I'm a big believer in taking college players (especially position players) because of their experience and exposure to the longer NCAA season and higher levels of competition in college.
I guess the Cubs have a little bit more of the luxury of taking a high school player because they don't need the help in quite the same time frame as they did in years past.
I think the international signing class this year will be more exciting than the draft, at least for the Cubs.
Houston has picks 2 and 5...I wonder if they pick Aiken again. Likely they nab Bregman.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 08, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
Houston has picks 2 and 5...I wonder if they pick Aiken again. Likely they nab Bregman.
They need Aiken's permission to draft him again, which I think he denied.
Quote from: Eli on June 08, 2015, 02:04:09 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 08, 2015, 01:44:53 PM
Houston has picks 2 and 5...I wonder if they pick Aiken again. Likely they nab Bregman.
They need Aiken's permission to draft him again, which I think he denied.
Pretty much everything I've seen has Aiken going in the 15-25 range.
This thread title still doesn't suck as much as the Travis Wood one which defies logic in 30 different ways.
I'm no baseball draft expert but I feel like drafting a guy already earmarked for the bullpen with a top ten pick seems like it's not the best use of resources when so many closers come from nowhere and have such erratic careers. But if y'all say this Jay fellow is worth it, okay.
Quote from: SKO on June 08, 2015, 03:17:31 PM
I'm no baseball draft expert but I feel like drafting a guy already earmarked for the bullpen with a top ten pick seems like it's not the best use of resources when so many closers come from nowhere and have such erratic careers. But if y'all say this Jay fellow is worth it, okay.
I'm with you on not drafting a reliever in the top 10 picks, but I've also read some folks think Jay could transition to a starter in the bigs.
Much like future star Ryan Williams.
Quote from: SKO on June 08, 2015, 03:17:31 PM
I'm no baseball draft expert but I feel like drafting a guy already earmarked for the bullpen with a top ten pick seems like it's not the best use of resources when so many closers come from nowhere and have such erratic careers. But if y'all say this Jay fellow is worth it, okay.
Wasn't Andrew Cashner a closer at TCU? He begat Anthony Rizzo.
DRAFT ALL THE RELIEVERS
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 08, 2015, 04:08:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 08, 2015, 03:17:31 PM
I'm no baseball draft expert but I feel like drafting a guy already earmarked for the bullpen with a top ten pick seems like it's not the best use of resources when so many closers come from nowhere and have such erratic careers. But if y'all say this Jay fellow is worth it, okay.
Wasn't Andrew Cashner a closer at TCU? He begat Anthony Rizzo.
DRAFT ALL THE RELIEVERS
I stilll wonder if Lance Dickson's Arm is actually Josh Byrnes. Anthony Rizzo's grow on trees, unlike talented but oft-injured pitchers in the middle of the new deadball era.
Quote from: SKO on June 08, 2015, 04:19:33 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 08, 2015, 04:08:56 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 08, 2015, 03:17:31 PM
I'm no baseball draft expert but I feel like drafting a guy already earmarked for the bullpen with a top ten pick seems like it's not the best use of resources when so many closers come from nowhere and have such erratic careers. But if y'all say this Jay fellow is worth it, okay.
Wasn't Andrew Cashner a closer at TCU? He begat Anthony Rizzo.
DRAFT ALL THE RELIEVERS
I stilll wonder if Lance Dickson's Arm is actually Josh Byrnes. Anthony Rizzo's grow on trees, unlike talented but oft-injured pitchers in the middle of the new deadball era.
#NeverForget (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7039.msg193799#msg193799)
After getting pwnd by Dansby, RV's lovechild is going to Minnesota
Well they took the best available college bat again. I'm cool with it
Quote from: SKO on June 08, 2015, 07:16:36 PM
Well they took the best available college bat again. I'm cool with it
Jay would have been a great story (grew up a Cubs fan, in addition to going to UIUC) but I'm not exactly clamoring to get Andrew Cashner back and they already have Rizzo. The odds are against a successful transition to starting. Plus, no one knew who Kyle Schwarber was when they drafted him so I'm with SKO on this one. The OBP is great, good power numbers, hits from both sides of the plate, I'll take it. Hopefully he'll be yet another cheap pre-FA position player who frees up money for pitching.
We can't call them the Happless Cubs.
Quote from: CBStew on June 08, 2015, 08:23:25 PM
We can't call them the Happless Cubs.
Rolls eyes, grinds teeth.
(wishes I had thought of that first)
It's some bullshit that every year the Cardinals get a free high-round pick for allegedly being a small-market team. Last thing the league should be doing is giving them more free picks. Coupled with the strict draft slots (which the Astros used to royally fuck over two kids last year, nice work) and the silly IFA spending caps that hurt the players more than the teams, MLB sure does have stupid, artificial talent restrictions in place. (And on the flip side, the MLBPA is extremely fond of the leverage they can gain by trading away the rights of unrepresented amateurs.)
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 09, 2015, 04:30:46 AM
It's some bullshit that every year the Cardinals get a free high-round pick for allegedly being a small-market team. Last thing the league should be doing is giving them more free picks. Coupled with the strict draft slots (which the Astros used to royally fuck over two kids last year, nice work) and the silly IFA spending caps that hurt the players more than the teams, MLB sure does have stupid, artificial talent restrictions in place. (And on the flip side, the MLBPA is extremely fond of the leverage they can gain by trading away the rights of unrepresented amateurs.)
I had no idea about this but on further investigation, it appears they don't get an extra pick every year: it's a lottery, and the lottery is weighted according to the previous year's standings. Nonetheless, it does seem a little odd that they're getting extra help. Are they any less deserving than, say, Miami, though? Because fuck Miami for trousering their competitive balance money whilst occasionally blundering ass-backwards into a World Series. Why should the Tards be penalised for being well-run? And what the fuck is wrong with me? Fuck St. Louis.
So, Ian Happ and Donnie Dewees...two of the better bats in the draft. I don't know much about any of these guys other than what I read on websites that say the Cubs nailed it in the first two rounds again. It just looks like the Cubs are hoarding the NCAA's top bats. Looking at their numbers, they hit for average and have amazing OBP's for their college careers. I was a tad bummed that Benentindi was picked so early, but I'm going with the Cubs know what they're doing and these two picks feel very Schwarberish.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 09, 2015, 08:57:06 AM
So, Ian Happ and Donnie Dewees...two of the better bats in the draft. I don't know much about any of these guys other than what I read on websites that say the Cubs nailed it in the first two rounds again. It just looks like the Cubs are hoarding the NCAA's top bats. Looking at their numbers, they hit for average and have amazing OBP's for their college careers. I was a tad bummed that Benentindi was picked so early, but I'm going with the Cubs know what they're doing and these two picks feel very Schwarberish.
Sure seems that way...
Quote from: Baseball Prospectus nerd
9. Chicago Cubs
Ian Happ, OF, Cincinnati
There are some guys who just get hitting. Ian Happ is one of those guys. The switch-hitting outfielder was the best pure hitter for me in the draft, and is a great pick for the Cubs (yes, I know, you wanted a pitcher). His swing is excellent from both sides of the plate, and there's sneaky pop from the left-side as well, with enough strength to drive into the gaps from the right. The question is whether he'll play second base or the outfield, but wherever he plays, he's going to hit. Another great pick from Theo Epstein and company.
Quote from: More from Baseball Prospectus statfag
47. Chicago Cubs
Donnie Dewees, OF, North Florida
I'm a big fan of this Cubs class. Dewees can really hit, with some dropping a 65 hit tool on him. I think it's closer to 60, and it wouldn't shock me if he was a leadoff hitter who can play center field someday. That's pretty good in the second round.
Quote from: Oleg on June 09, 2015, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 09, 2015, 08:57:06 AM
So, Ian Happ and Donnie Dewees...two of the better bats in the draft. I don't know much about any of these guys other than what I read on websites that say the Cubs nailed it in the first two rounds again. It just looks like the Cubs are hoarding the NCAA's top bats. Looking at their numbers, they hit for average and have amazing OBP's for their college careers. I was a tad bummed that Benentindi was picked so early, but I'm going with the Cubs know what they're doing and these two picks feel very Schwarberish.
Sure seems that way...
Quote from: Baseball Prospectus nerd
9. Chicago Cubs
Ian Happ, OF, Cincinnati
There are some guys who just get hitting. Ian Happ is one of those guys. The switch-hitting outfielder was the best pure hitter for me in the draft, and is a great pick for the Cubs (yes, I know, you wanted a pitcher). His swing is excellent from both sides of the plate, and there's sneaky pop from the left-side as well, with enough strength to drive into the gaps from the right. The question is whether he'll play second base or the outfield, but wherever he plays, he's going to hit. Another great pick from Theo Epstein and company.
Quote from: More from Baseball Prospectus statfag
47. Chicago Cubs
Donnie Dewees, OF, North Florida
I'm a big fan of this Cubs class. Dewees can really hit, with some dropping a 65 hit tool on him. I think it's closer to 60, and it wouldn't shock me if he was a leadoff hitter who can play center field someday. That's pretty good in the second round.
So, Dewees SLG'd 0.749 for North Florida. 18 HR and 16 K...more HR's than K's. I don't have words for that.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 09, 2015, 09:34:20 AM
Quote from: Oleg on June 09, 2015, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 09, 2015, 08:57:06 AM
So, Ian Happ and Donnie Dewees...two of the better bats in the draft. I don't know much about any of these guys other than what I read on websites that say the Cubs nailed it in the first two rounds again. It just looks like the Cubs are hoarding the NCAA's top bats. Looking at their numbers, they hit for average and have amazing OBP's for their college careers. I was a tad bummed that Benentindi was picked so early, but I'm going with the Cubs know what they're doing and these two picks feel very Schwarberish.
Sure seems that way...
Quote from: Baseball Prospectus nerd
9. Chicago Cubs
Ian Happ, OF, Cincinnati
There are some guys who just get hitting. Ian Happ is one of those guys. The switch-hitting outfielder was the best pure hitter for me in the draft, and is a great pick for the Cubs (yes, I know, you wanted a pitcher). His swing is excellent from both sides of the plate, and there's sneaky pop from the left-side as well, with enough strength to drive into the gaps from the right. The question is whether he'll play second base or the outfield, but wherever he plays, he's going to hit. Another great pick from Theo Epstein and company.
Quote from: More from Baseball Prospectus statfag
47. Chicago Cubs
Donnie Dewees, OF, North Florida
I'm a big fan of this Cubs class. Dewees can really hit, with some dropping a 65 hit tool on him. I think it's closer to 60, and it wouldn't shock me if he was a leadoff hitter who can play center field someday. That's pretty good in the second round.
So, Dewees SLG'd 0.749 for North Florida. 18 HR and 16 K...more HR's than K's. I don't have words for that.
Well I mean he went to North Florida. How top flight was the competition he was facing? Obviously the kid has skills or he wouldn't be a second round pick but I really don't know if "didn't strike out a lot vs. Coastal Carolina or whatever" is a feat to render one beyond words.
Quote from: SKO on June 09, 2015, 10:07:55 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 09, 2015, 09:34:20 AM
Quote from: Oleg on June 09, 2015, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 09, 2015, 08:57:06 AM
So, Ian Happ and Donnie Dewees...two of the better bats in the draft. I don't know much about any of these guys other than what I read on websites that say the Cubs nailed it in the first two rounds again. It just looks like the Cubs are hoarding the NCAA's top bats. Looking at their numbers, they hit for average and have amazing OBP's for their college careers. I was a tad bummed that Benentindi was picked so early, but I'm going with the Cubs know what they're doing and these two picks feel very Schwarberish.
Sure seems that way...
Quote from: Baseball Prospectus nerd
9. Chicago Cubs
Ian Happ, OF, Cincinnati
There are some guys who just get hitting. Ian Happ is one of those guys. The switch-hitting outfielder was the best pure hitter for me in the draft, and is a great pick for the Cubs (yes, I know, you wanted a pitcher). His swing is excellent from both sides of the plate, and there's sneaky pop from the left-side as well, with enough strength to drive into the gaps from the right. The question is whether he'll play second base or the outfield, but wherever he plays, he's going to hit. Another great pick from Theo Epstein and company.
Quote from: More from Baseball Prospectus statfag
47. Chicago Cubs
Donnie Dewees, OF, North Florida
I'm a big fan of this Cubs class. Dewees can really hit, with some dropping a 65 hit tool on him. I think it's closer to 60, and it wouldn't shock me if he was a leadoff hitter who can play center field someday. That's pretty good in the second round.
So, Dewees SLG'd 0.749 for North Florida. 18 HR and 16 K...more HR's than K's. I don't have words for that.
Well I mean he went to North Florida. How top flight was the competition he was facing? Obviously the kid has skills or he wouldn't be a second round pick but I really don't know if "didn't strike out a lot vs. Coastal Carolina or whatever" is a feat to render one beyond words.
I think an NCAA baseball season is 56 games. He K'd 16 times in 56 games...that is something no matter if you play in the SEC or the Athletic Sun Conference. Right?
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So, Ian Happ and Donnie Dewees...two of the better bats in the draft. I don't know much about any of these guys other than what I read on websites that say the Cubs nailed it in the first two rounds again. It just looks like the Cubs are hoarding the NCAA's top bats. Looking at their numbers, they hit for average and have amazing OBP's for their college careers. I was a tad bummed that Benentindi was picked so early, but I'm going with the Cubs know what they're doing and these two picks feel very Schwarberish.
Sure seems that way...
Quote from: Baseball Prospectus nerd
9. Chicago Cubs
Ian Happ, OF, Cincinnati
There are some guys who just get hitting. Ian Happ is one of those guys. The switch-hitting outfielder was the best pure hitter for me in the draft, and is a great pick for the Cubs (yes, I know, you wanted a pitcher). His swing is excellent from both sides of the plate, and there's sneaky pop from the left-side as well, with enough strength to drive into the gaps from the right. The question is whether he'll play second base or the outfield, but wherever he plays, he's going to hit. Another great pick from Theo Epstein and company.
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47. Chicago Cubs
Donnie Dewees, OF, North Florida
I'm a big fan of this Cubs class. Dewees can really hit, with some dropping a 65 hit tool on him. I think it's closer to 60, and it wouldn't shock me if he was a leadoff hitter who can play center field someday. That's pretty good in the second round.
So, Dewees SLG'd 0.749 for North Florida. 18 HR and 16 K...more HR's than K's. I don't have words for that.
Well I mean he went to North Florida. How top flight was the competition he was facing? Obviously the kid has skills or he wouldn't be a second round pick but I really don't know if "didn't strike out a lot vs. Coastal Carolina or whatever" is a feat to render one beyond words.
I think an NCAA baseball season is 56 games. He K'd 16 times in 56 games...that is something no matter if you play in the SEC or the Athletic Sun Conference. Right?
It's certainly a good sign. I just don't know if it's like, "I have no words to describe this achievement" good. This is no place for hyperbole my dear boy.
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Quote from: Oleg on June 09, 2015, 09:27:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 09, 2015, 08:57:06 AM
So, Ian Happ and Donnie Dewees...two of the better bats in the draft. I don't know much about any of these guys other than what I read on websites that say the Cubs nailed it in the first two rounds again. It just looks like the Cubs are hoarding the NCAA's top bats. Looking at their numbers, they hit for average and have amazing OBP's for their college careers. I was a tad bummed that Benentindi was picked so early, but I'm going with the Cubs know what they're doing and these two picks feel very Schwarberish.
Sure seems that way...
Quote from: Baseball Prospectus nerd
9. Chicago Cubs
Ian Happ, OF, Cincinnati
There are some guys who just get hitting. Ian Happ is one of those guys. The switch-hitting outfielder was the best pure hitter for me in the draft, and is a great pick for the Cubs (yes, I know, you wanted a pitcher). His swing is excellent from both sides of the plate, and there's sneaky pop from the left-side as well, with enough strength to drive into the gaps from the right. The question is whether he'll play second base or the outfield, but wherever he plays, he's going to hit. Another great pick from Theo Epstein and company.
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47. Chicago Cubs
Donnie Dewees, OF, North Florida
I'm a big fan of this Cubs class. Dewees can really hit, with some dropping a 65 hit tool on him. I think it's closer to 60, and it wouldn't shock me if he was a leadoff hitter who can play center field someday. That's pretty good in the second round.
So, Dewees SLG'd 0.749 for North Florida. 18 HR and 16 K...more HR's than K's. I don't have words for that.
Well I mean he went to North Florida. How top flight was the competition he was facing? Obviously the kid has skills or he wouldn't be a second round pick but I really don't know if "didn't strike out a lot vs. Coastal Carolina or whatever" is a feat to render one beyond words.
I think an NCAA baseball season is 56 games. He K'd 16 times in 56 games...that is something no matter if you play in the SEC or the Athletic Sun Conference. Right?
It's certainly a good sign. I just don't know if it's like, "I have no words to describe this achievement" good. This is no place for hyperbole my dear boy.
Well, he played in the Cape Cod league which Jepstink seem to frequent -- so did Happ, for that matter.
http://www.pointstreak.com/baseball/stats.html?leagueid=166&seasonid=26713
Player Team P AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SF SH SB CS DP E
Newman, K FAL SS .380 31 121 20 46 7 0 1 20 18 0 9 4 1 10 2 8 9
Martin Jr, R BOU SS .364 43 162 36 59 6 1 3 20 17 4 25 2 1 17 7 3 13
Laird, M BOU OF .358 37 137 23 49 4 2 1 22 20 0 17 1 0 17 0 1 0
Fleming, B BOU 2B .357 31 112 18 40 7 0 0 18 20 2 16 1 1 1 1 1 6
Madsen, J FAL 1B .346 32 107 23 37 9 0 2 17 14 0 13 0 0 1 0 3 1
Dewees Jr., D HYA OF .340 41 150 31 51 9 1 3 20 20 0 16 3 0 19 2 1 2
Thompson, D ORL 3B .331 42 163 27 54 10 0 4 29 5 2 31 2 0 2 3 8 3
Duggar, S FAL OF .329 40 161 32 53 6 0 0 11 22 2 34 0 1 15 5 0 1
Happ, I HAR OF .329 43 149 25 49 12 1 4 26 25 4 32 2 0 8 5 2 3
Hale, C FAL 3B .327 41 171 17 56 12 1 4 38 4 0 30 2 0 0 0 4 3For some context, Newman went 19th overall and Martin went 20th. Laird and Hale played at LSU, Thompson played at Miami, and Duggar was at Clemson.
I positive the picks.
And Schwarber played in the CCBL in 2012. Here's his line for comparison:
Player Team P AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SF SH SB CS DP E
Schwarber, K WAR OF .343 44 172 30 59 10 2 8 38 24 3 30 0 0 4 2 7 6Edit: Bryant struggled in 2011:
Player Team P AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SF SH SB CS DP E
Bryant, K CHA 3B .223 37 130 16 29 6 2 3 16 14 2 51 2 0 0 0 3 9
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Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 09, 2015, 08:57:06 AM
So, Ian Happ and Donnie Dewees...two of the better bats in the draft. I don't know much about any of these guys other than what I read on websites that say the Cubs nailed it in the first two rounds again. It just looks like the Cubs are hoarding the NCAA's top bats. Looking at their numbers, they hit for average and have amazing OBP's for their college careers. I was a tad bummed that Benentindi was picked so early, but I'm going with the Cubs know what they're doing and these two picks feel very Schwarberish.
Sure seems that way...
Quote from: Baseball Prospectus nerd
9. Chicago Cubs
Ian Happ, OF, Cincinnati
There are some guys who just get hitting. Ian Happ is one of those guys. The switch-hitting outfielder was the best pure hitter for me in the draft, and is a great pick for the Cubs (yes, I know, you wanted a pitcher). His swing is excellent from both sides of the plate, and there's sneaky pop from the left-side as well, with enough strength to drive into the gaps from the right. The question is whether he'll play second base or the outfield, but wherever he plays, he's going to hit. Another great pick from Theo Epstein and company.
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47. Chicago Cubs
Donnie Dewees, OF, North Florida
I'm a big fan of this Cubs class. Dewees can really hit, with some dropping a 65 hit tool on him. I think it's closer to 60, and it wouldn't shock me if he was a leadoff hitter who can play center field someday. That's pretty good in the second round.
So, Dewees SLG'd 0.749 for North Florida. 18 HR and 16 K...more HR's than K's. I don't have words for that.
Well I mean he went to North Florida. How top flight was the competition he was facing? Obviously the kid has skills or he wouldn't be a second round pick but I really don't know if "didn't strike out a lot vs. Coastal Carolina or whatever" is a feat to render one beyond words.
I think an NCAA baseball season is 56 games. He K'd 16 times in 56 games...that is something no matter if you play in the SEC or the Athletic Sun Conference. Right?
It's certainly a good sign. I just don't know if it's like, "I have no words to describe this achievement" good. This is no place for hyperbole my dear boy.
Well, he played in the Cape Cod league which Jepstink seem to frequent -- so did Happ, for that matter.
http://www.pointstreak.com/baseball/stats.html?leagueid=166&seasonid=26713
Player Team P AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SF SH SB CS DP E
Newman, K FAL SS .380 31 121 20 46 7 0 1 20 18 0 9 4 1 10 2 8 9
Martin Jr, R BOU SS .364 43 162 36 59 6 1 3 20 17 4 25 2 1 17 7 3 13
Laird, M BOU OF .358 37 137 23 49 4 2 1 22 20 0 17 1 0 17 0 1 0
Fleming, B BOU 2B .357 31 112 18 40 7 0 0 18 20 2 16 1 1 1 1 1 6
Madsen, J FAL 1B .346 32 107 23 37 9 0 2 17 14 0 13 0 0 1 0 3 1
Dewees Jr., D HYA OF .340 41 150 31 51 9 1 3 20 20 0 16 3 0 19 2 1 2
Thompson, D ORL 3B .331 42 163 27 54 10 0 4 29 5 2 31 2 0 2 3 8 3
Duggar, S FAL OF .329 40 161 32 53 6 0 0 11 22 2 34 0 1 15 5 0 1
Happ, I HAR OF .329 43 149 25 49 12 1 4 26 25 4 32 2 0 8 5 2 3
Hale, C FAL 3B .327 41 171 17 56 12 1 4 38 4 0 30 2 0 0 0 4 3
For some context, Newman went 19th overall and Martin went 20th. Laird and Hale played at LSU, Thompson played at Miami, and Duggar was at Clemson.
I positive the picks.
And Schwarber played in the CCBL in 2012. Here's his line for comparison:
Player Team P AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SF SH SB CS DP E
Schwarber, K WAR OF .343 44 172 30 59 10 2 8 38 24 3 30 0 0 4 2 7 6
Edit: Bryant struggled in 2011:
Player Team P AVG G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SF SH SB CS DP E
Bryant, K CHA 3B .223 37 130 16 29 6 2 3 16 14 2 51 2 0 0 0 3 9
What did Bryant do vs. Freddie Prinze Jr?
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3rd round: Bryan Hudson. 6'8", 220 lbs...in high school. Plus, he's from Illinois (Alton HS). Jebus, 6'8" as an 18 year old.
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Illinois' best high school pitching prospect since the Astros made Mike Foltynewicz a first-round pick in 2010, Hudson is an extremely athletic and projectable left-hander whose stock continues to improve as the Draft approaches. He's a safe bet to go in the top three rounds, with some talk that he could become a supplemental first-rounder. Hudson's best pitch is a 75-78 mph curveball with good depth that should add even more power once he adds strength to his skinny 6-foot-7 frame. He commands his breaking ball well, though he relies on it too often. The Missouri recruit usually pitches at 86-90 mph and tops out around 92 with his fastball. With his arm action and projection, it won't be a surprise if he reaches the mid-90s in the future. He shows the makings of a changeup, though he doesn't trust it yet and doesn't need it much against high school competition.
4th round: Daryl Wilson.
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While Chandler Day's stock has taken a downturn, Wilson's is headed in the opposite direction and he has surpassed his fellow Vanderbilt recruit as the best high school prospect in Ohio this spring. Teams that like Wilson see him as a Ben Revere-style player and could select him as early as the third round. Wilson's game revolves around his well above-average speed. He uses a compact left-handed stroke to put the ball in play and use his quickness to beat out hits. His size and approach result in very little power, however, and he struggled at times against better competition on the showcase circuit last summer. Wilson has all the ingredients to be a quality center fielder. He reads the ball well off the bat, covers plenty of ground, has average arm strength and makes accurate throws.
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3rd round: Bryan Hudson. 6'8", 220 lbs...in high school. Plus, he's from Illinois (Alton HS). Jebus, 6'8" as an 18 year old.
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Illinois' best high school pitching prospect since the Astros made Mike Foltynewicz a first-round pick in 2010, Hudson is an extremely athletic and projectable left-hander whose stock continues to improve as the Draft approaches. He's a safe bet to go in the top three rounds, with some talk that he could become a supplemental first-rounder. Hudson's best pitch is a 75-78 mph curveball with good depth that should add even more power once he adds strength to his skinny 6-foot-7 frame. He commands his breaking ball well, though he relies on it too often. The Missouri recruit usually pitches at 86-90 mph and tops out around 92 with his fastball. With his arm action and projection, it won't be a surprise if he reaches the mid-90s in the future. He shows the makings of a changeup, though he doesn't trust it yet and doesn't need it much against high school competition.
4th round: Daryl Wilson.
Quote from: mlb.com
While Chandler Day's stock has taken a downturn, Wilson's is headed in the opposite direction and he has surpassed his fellow Vanderbilt recruit as the best high school prospect in Ohio this spring. Teams that like Wilson see him as a Ben Revere-style player and could select him as early as the third round. Wilson's game revolves around his well above-average speed. He uses a compact left-handed stroke to put the ball in play and use his quickness to beat out hits. His size and approach result in very little power, however, and he struggled at times against better competition on the showcase circuit last summer. Wilson has all the ingredients to be a quality center fielder. He reads the ball well off the bat, covers plenty of ground, has average arm strength and makes accurate throws.
Daryl Wilson is the next Mack Seizure. You heard it here first.
5th round. Ryan Kellog. LHP. 6'6". 230 lbs.
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After a huge freshman year at Arizona State in 2013, it looked like Kellogg was pointing toward being one of the better college lefties in the Draft class of 2015. While he's been effective, he hasn't been quite as dominant as hoped. At the outset, Kellogg looked more like a guy who would pitch in the low 90s with a power breaking ball. He's morphed a bit into more of a pitchability lefty, albeit one with three at least average offerings. His fastball sits more in the 90-91 range with some solid life when he keeps it down in the zone. He can spin a decent breaking ball and he mixes in a changeup that will be at least Major League average as well. Kellogg doesn't hurt himself with walks, but also doesn't miss a ton of bats, pitching to contact. Even if Kellogg didn't develop into the pitcher scouts thought he would be, he still profiles as a starter who really knows how to pitch, a value especially as Day 2 of the Draft unfolds.
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5th round. Ryan Kellog. LHP. 6'6". 230 lbs.
Quote from: mlb.com
After a huge freshman year at Arizona State in 2013, it looked like Kellogg was pointing toward being one of the better college lefties in the Draft class of 2015. While he's been effective, he hasn't been quite as dominant as hoped. At the outset, Kellogg looked more like a guy who would pitch in the low 90s with a power breaking ball. He's morphed a bit into more of a pitchability lefty, albeit one with three at least average offerings. His fastball sits more in the 90-91 range with some solid life when he keeps it down in the zone. He can spin a decent breaking ball and he mixes in a changeup that will be at least Major League average as well. Kellogg doesn't hurt himself with walks, but also doesn't miss a ton of bats, pitching to contact. Even if Kellogg didn't develop into the pitcher scouts thought he would be, he still profiles as a starter who really knows how to pitch, a value especially as Day 2 of the Draft unfolds.
IF DAT KELLOGGS GUY CANT TAKE DA CUBS TO DA WORLD CEREAL DEN I DONT KNOW WHO CAN MY FRENTS.
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3rd round: Bryan Hudson. 6'8", 220 lbs...in high school. Plus, he's from Illinois (Alton HS). Jebus, 6'8" as an 18 year old.
Quote from: mlb.com
Illinois' best high school pitching prospect since the Astros made Mike Foltynewicz a first-round pick in 2010, Hudson is an extremely athletic and projectable left-hander whose stock continues to improve as the Draft approaches. He's a safe bet to go in the top three rounds, with some talk that he could become a supplemental first-rounder. Hudson's best pitch is a 75-78 mph curveball with good depth that should add even more power once he adds strength to his skinny 6-foot-7 frame. He commands his breaking ball well, though he relies on it too often. The Missouri recruit usually pitches at 86-90 mph and tops out around 92 with his fastball. With his arm action and projection, it won't be a surprise if he reaches the mid-90s in the future. He shows the makings of a changeup, though he doesn't trust it yet and doesn't need it much against high school competition.
4th round: Daryl Wilson.
Quote from: mlb.com
While Chandler Day's stock has taken a downturn, Wilson's is headed in the opposite direction and he has surpassed his fellow Vanderbilt recruit as the best high school prospect in Ohio this spring. Teams that like Wilson see him as a Ben Revere-style player and could select him as early as the third round. Wilson's game revolves around his well above-average speed. He uses a compact left-handed stroke to put the ball in play and use his quickness to beat out hits. His size and approach result in very little power, however, and he struggled at times against better competition on the showcase circuit last summer. Wilson has all the ingredients to be a quality center fielder. He reads the ball well off the bat, covers plenty of ground, has average arm strength and makes accurate throws.
Daryl Wilson is the next Mack Seizure. You heard it here first.
Not even "the next Ben Revere" is much to get excited about, either.
6th round. Dave Berg. RHP, UCLA. Side-arming/submarine righty.
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The right-hander has been an anchor of the UCLA bullpen throughout his career with the Bruins, becoming one of just five players in UCLA history to earn All-Pac-12 honors three years in a row. He holds the UCLA record for most postseason appearances (17) and postseason saves (6), as well as the NCAA single-season record for saves (24, set in 2013). Berg is also the only pitcher in school history to lead the conference in ERA in back-to-back seasons, and became the historic conference's first reliever to ever win the Pac-12 Pitcher of the Year Award in 2013.
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6th round. Dave Berg. RHP, UCLA. Side-arming/submarine righty.
Quote from: mlb.com
The right-hander has been an anchor of the UCLA bullpen throughout his career with the Bruins, becoming one of just five players in UCLA history to earn All-Pac-12 honors three years in a row. He holds the UCLA record for most postseason appearances (17) and postseason saves (6), as well as the NCAA single-season record for saves (24, set in 2013). Berg is also the only pitcher in school history to lead the conference in ERA in back-to-back seasons, and became the historic conference's first reliever to ever win the Pac-12 Pitcher of the Year Award in 2013.
RV is already fantasizing about dipping him in a big ole' vat of ketchup.
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6th round. Dave Berg. RHP, UCLA. Side-arming/submarine righty.
Quote from: mlb.com
The right-hander has been an anchor of the UCLA bullpen throughout his career with the Bruins, becoming one of just five players in UCLA history to earn All-Pac-12 honors three years in a row. He holds the UCLA record for most postseason appearances (17) and postseason saves (6), as well as the NCAA single-season record for saves (24, set in 2013). Berg is also the only pitcher in school history to lead the conference in ERA in back-to-back seasons, and became the historic conference's first reliever to ever win the Pac-12 Pitcher of the Year Award in 2013.
RV is already fantasizing about dipping him in a big ole' vat of ketchup.
Trader Joe's ketchup, natch.
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Quote from: Oleg on June 09, 2015, 02:31:40 PM
6th round. Dave Berg. RHP, UCLA. Side-arming/submarine righty.
Quote from: mlb.com
The right-hander has been an anchor of the UCLA bullpen throughout his career with the Bruins, becoming one of just five players in UCLA history to earn All-Pac-12 honors three years in a row. He holds the UCLA record for most postseason appearances (17) and postseason saves (6), as well as the NCAA single-season record for saves (24, set in 2013). Berg is also the only pitcher in school history to lead the conference in ERA in back-to-back seasons, and became the historic conference's first reliever to ever win the Pac-12 Pitcher of the Year Award in 2013.
RV is already fantasizing about dipping him in a big ole' vat of ketchup.
Trader Joe's ketchup, natch.
It's actually Trader's Joe
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Quote from: PANK! on June 09, 2015, 03:06:38 PM
Quote from: Oleg on June 09, 2015, 02:31:40 PM
6th round. Dave Berg. RHP, UCLA. Side-arming/submarine righty.
Quote from: mlb.com
The right-hander has been an anchor of the UCLA bullpen throughout his career with the Bruins, becoming one of just five players in UCLA history to earn All-Pac-12 honors three years in a row. He holds the UCLA record for most postseason appearances (17) and postseason saves (6), as well as the NCAA single-season record for saves (24, set in 2013). Berg is also the only pitcher in school history to lead the conference in ERA in back-to-back seasons, and became the historic conference's first reliever to ever win the Pac-12 Pitcher of the Year Award in 2013.
RV is already fantasizing about dipping him in a big ole' vat of ketchup.
Trader Joe's ketchup, natch.
It's actually Trader's Joe
Huey shuns Trader Joe's as he comes down staunchly in the Aldi camp of that particular family feud.
So was the Cubs' draft just super boring this year, or have we all just stopped pretending we care about it now that the major-league team is competitive again?
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
So was the Cubs' draft just super boring this year, or have we all just stopped pretending we care about it now that the major-league team is competitive again?
Well, you know I care about the prospects dearly, and I found it really boring.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 12:02:06 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
So was the Cubs' draft just super boring this year, or have we all just stopped pretending we care about it now that the major-league team is competitive again?
Well, you know I care about the prospects dearly, and I found it really boring.
All draft picks should be kept secret for like three years so then we can just wait to find out who's even worth being excited about.
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 12:02:06 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
So was the Cubs' draft just super boring this year, or have we all just stopped pretending we care about it now that the major-league team is competitive again?
Well, you know I care about the prospects dearly, and I found it really boring.
All draft picks should be kept secret for like three years so then we can just wait to find out who's even worth being excited about.
This sounds like torture.
I can't wait for Eugene to start, that team is going to have ridiculous talent.
At least 5 future HOF.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 12:34:09 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 12:02:06 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
So was the Cubs' draft just super boring this year, or have we all just stopped pretending we care about it now that the major-league team is competitive again?
Well, you know I care about the prospects dearly, and I found it really boring.
All draft picks should be kept secret for like three years so then we can just wait to find out who's even worth being excited about.
This sounds like torture.
I can't wait for Eugene to start, that team is going to have ridiculous talent.
At least 5 future HOF.
I think it's a great idea. For example, now that it's 2015 we could look back at the 2012 draft class and get excited about
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 12:42:10 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 12:34:09 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 12:02:06 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
So was the Cubs' draft just super boring this year, or have we all just stopped pretending we care about it now that the major-league team is competitive again?
Well, you know I care about the prospects dearly, and I found it really boring.
All draft picks should be kept secret for like three years so then we can just wait to find out who's even worth being excited about.
This sounds like torture.
I can't wait for Eugene to start, that team is going to have ridiculous talent.
At least 5 future HOF.
I think it's a great idea. For example, now that it's 2015 we could look back at the 2012 draft class and get excited about
...how much younger we were then?
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 12:42:10 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 12:34:09 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 12:17:06 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 12:02:06 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 11:43:36 AM
So was the Cubs' draft just super boring this year, or have we all just stopped pretending we care about it now that the major-league team is competitive again?
Well, you know I care about the prospects dearly, and I found it really boring.
All draft picks should be kept secret for like three years so then we can just wait to find out who's even worth being excited about.
This sounds like torture.
I can't wait for Eugene to start, that team is going to have ridiculous talent.
At least 5 future HOF.
I think it's a great idea. For example, now that it's 2015 we could look back at the 2012 draft class and get excited about
The problem is that even a
really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
Seconded by me, third'd by Christian Villanueva.
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
This is all very confusing to me.
Fitz Stadler. 32nd round. 6'7" RHP. A local kid from Glenbrook South.
Quote from: mlb.com
Stadler doesn't have the present stuff to warrant a seven-figure bonus, but he's so athletic and projectable that it's easy to envision him blossoming into a first-round pick after three years of college. His older brothers Walker and Sullivan pitched for coach Tracy Smith at Indiana and Stadler likely will do the same for Smith at Arizona State. His fastball usually sits at 86-88 mph and tops out at 92, and he should pack on a lot more velocity once his 6-foot-8, 215-pound frame matures. His heater plays above its velocity because it features great extension, some sink and steep downhill plane. Stadler's curveball has nice depth when he stays on top of it, though it too needs more power and it becomes slurvy when he gets around it. He's working on adding a changeup. Also a quarterback who drew interest from college football programs, he has excellent body control and repeats his mechanics well for his size, so throwing strikes isn't a problem.
Sounds like he'll be a really tough signing but The Cubs are loading up on really tall pitchers.
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Quote from: Oleg on June 10, 2015, 05:14:07 PM
Fitz Stadler. 32nd round. 6'7" RHP. A local kid from Glenbrook South.
He's huge. Was the QB of the football team this past year and played already having the scholarship from ASU (I think that's where he's going). Worried for the kid he'd get tackled and separate his shoulder.
Can't see him signing as a 32nd rounder with that kind of college deal lined up.
Mike Baxter is a perfectly reasonable choice for DH in American League parks, they don't really need Schwarber at all.
(screaming internally)
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
This is all very confusing to me.
Its like straightwhitecismansplaining but worse. Does that help?
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 10, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
This is all very confusing to me.
Its like straightwhitecismansplaining but worse. Does that help?
No.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 11, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 10, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
This is all very confusing to me.
Its like straightwhitecismansplaining but worse. Does that help?
No.
Short answer: Shut Up Pen, You're a Douche.
Quote from: Bort on June 11, 2015, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 11, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 10, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
This is all very confusing to me.
Its like straightwhitecismansplaining but worse. Does that help?
No.
Short answer: Shut Up Pen, You're a Douche.
So, people want to talk about the draft because it's exciting except when they don't because it's a waste of time because prospects all inevitably die or fail?
Sounds like a perfect recap of the internet.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 11, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: Bort on June 11, 2015, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 11, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 10, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
This is all very confusing to me.
Its like straightwhitecismansplaining but worse. Does that help?
No.
Short answer: Shut Up Pen, You're a Douche.
So, people want to talk about the draft because it's exciting except when they don't because it's a waste of time because prospects all inevitably die or fail?
Sounds like a perfect recap of the internet.
No, people want to talk about the draft but they're weary of hearing you talk about anything. I'm not saying I am. But that's the note you're receiving, the point you're missing.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 11, 2015, 05:21:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 11, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: Bort on June 11, 2015, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 11, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 10, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
This is all very confusing to me.
Its like straightwhitecismansplaining but worse. Does that help?
No.
Short answer: Shut Up Pen, You're a Douche.
So, people want to talk about the draft because it's exciting except when they don't because it's a waste of time because prospects all inevitably die or fail?
Sounds like a perfect recap of the internet.
No, people want to talk about the draft but they're weary of hearing you talk about anything. I'm not saying I am. But that's the note you're receiving, the point you're missing.
Well that's just stupid.
If they don't want to hear me talk, they should talk about something I'm not interested in.
We have tons of threads for that, like every one about TV, movies, video games, politics, soccer, hockey, music...
Quote from: PenFoe on June 11, 2015, 06:27:44 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 11, 2015, 05:21:04 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 11, 2015, 05:05:51 PM
Quote from: Bort on June 11, 2015, 04:30:39 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 11, 2015, 10:40:39 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 10, 2015, 07:45:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:34:11 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 10, 2015, 01:20:46 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 10, 2015, 01:18:26 PM
The problem is that even a really good draft has maybe 3 potential impact guys in the bigs.
We'd end up not having much to look at.
Duane Underwood is pretty much the only guy in the Cubs entire 2012 draft class to be excited about, and he'll be lucky to make it to AA this year.
I move that we make Pensplaining a thing.
This is all very confusing to me.
Its like straightwhitecismansplaining but worse. Does that help?
No.
Short answer: Shut Up Pen, You're a Douche.
So, people want to talk about the draft because it's exciting except when they don't because it's a waste of time because prospects all inevitably die or fail?
Sounds like a perfect recap of the internet.
No, people want to talk about the draft but they're weary of hearing you talk about anything. I'm not saying I am. But that's the note you're receiving, the point you're missing.
Well that's just stupid.
If they don't want to hear me talk, they should talk about something I'm not interested in.
We have tons of threads for that, like every one about TV, movies, video games, politics, soccer, hockey, music...
Things Pen will happily discuss, on the other hand: apricot beer; organic, free-range, fair trade lesbian hiking shoes; Arizona.