Fuck its silent in here.......

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Maybe everyone should be running TO Japan.

I love that she can unironically quote the New York Times when it fits her batshit narrative. 

The woman is insanity distilled.

[morpheus]

I know everyone's all lathered up about the US not doing enough or doing too much in Libya... and rightly so, since it seems there's been little actual debate on the issue (Gil asks some rather important questions, for example).  However, here's a story you probably haven't seen covered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/shame-ignoring-death-thre_b_835805.html

ORLY?

CNN? That's not a major news network. Nice try.

One story on one network with no followup.  Very impressive.

[Bort]

I know everyone's all lathered up about the US not doing enough or doing too much in Libya... and rightly so, since it seems there's been little actual debate on the issue (Gil asks some rather important questions, for example).  However, here's a story you probably haven't seen covered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/shame-ignoring-death-thre_b_835805.html

ORLY?

CNN? That's not a major news network. Nice try.

One story on one network with no followup.  Very impressive.

I see Morph is POINTING THE FENGER.

[Quality Start Machine]

I know everyone's all lathered up about the US not doing enough or doing too much in Libya... and rightly so, since it seems there's been little actual debate on the issue (Gil asks some rather important questions, for example).  However, here's a story you probably haven't seen covered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/shame-ignoring-death-thre_b_835805.html

ORLY?

CNN? That's not a major news network. Nice try.

One story on one network with no followup.  Very impressive.

One example on one blog from a guy who works with Brietbart. C'mon.

[morpheus]

I know everyone's all lathered up about the US not doing enough or doing too much in Libya... and rightly so, since it seems there's been little actual debate on the issue (Gil asks some rather important questions, for example).  However, here's a story you probably haven't seen covered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/shame-ignoring-death-thre_b_835805.html

ORLY?

CNN? That's not a major news network. Nice try.

One story on one network with no followup.  Very impressive.

One example on one blog from a guy who works with Brietbart. C'mon.

Your characterization of the author is misleading at best.  Typical, though.

I anxiously await links to CBS, ABC, MSNBC, the New York Times... Good luck.  They'd all be falling over themselves to cover it if it were Democrats getting threats from Tea Partiers.  You know it, and I know it.

[Quality Start Machine]

I know everyone's all lathered up about the US not doing enough or doing too much in Libya... and rightly so, since it seems there's been little actual debate on the issue (Gil asks some rather important questions, for example).  However, here's a story you probably haven't seen covered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/shame-ignoring-death-thre_b_835805.html

ORLY?

CNN? That's not a major news network. Nice try.

One story on one network with no followup.  Very impressive.

One example on one blog from a guy who works with Brietbart. C'mon.

Your characterization of the author is misleading at best.  Typical, though.

No, I actually read the fucking article. He says he works with Breitbart.

[morpheus]

I know everyone's all lathered up about the US not doing enough or doing too much in Libya... and rightly so, since it seems there's been little actual debate on the issue (Gil asks some rather important questions, for example).  However, here's a story you probably haven't seen covered.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-stranahan/shame-ignoring-death-thre_b_835805.html

ORLY?

CNN? That's not a major news network. Nice try.

One story on one network with no followup.  Very impressive.

One example on one blog from a guy who works with Brietbart. C'mon.

Your characterization of the author is misleading at best.  Typical, though.

No, I actually read the fucking article. He says he works with Breitbart.

Yes, and so did I.

I'm in an odd position. In the last few months, I've had one foot in the left wing news stream and one foot in the right. My media duality began when conservative publisher Andrew Breitbart hired me to work with him on the Pigford 'black farmers' settlement story. I'm a pro-choice, pro-single payer, anti-war, pro-gay rights independent liberal with years of work in print and film backing those positions. Breitbart hired me to bring a different perspective to the non-partisan issue of corruption in Pigford.

But since he has done some work for Breitbart he should be completely discredited.  Shoah.

[Quality Start Machine]

The point you're missing (or ignoring) here is...

he's claiming there's been no media coverage. It took me a 2 second search on CNN's site to pull up that clip.

So then, you moved the goalposts (1 story, no followup), so I moved them (Worked for Brietbart), we can continue that all day, but nobody here wants their time wasted.

But since you asked:

CBS

I'll give you ABC, only because their site is an abomination that only links to AP. Which is covering the story pretty extensively.

MSNBC

The Times gave me good results, but it was behind a paywall, and I'm a cheapskate.

Essentially the article was written by someone who, at worst, was lying or at best, needs to learn how to operate a search bar.

[morpheus]

The point you're missing (or ignoring) here is...

he's claiming there's been no media coverage. It took me a 2 second search on CNN's site to pull up that clip.

So then, you moved the goalposts (1 story, no followup), so I moved them (Worked for Brietbart), we can continue that all day, but nobody here wants their time wasted.

But since you asked:

CBS

I'll give you ABC, only because their site is an abomination that only links to AP. Which is covering the story pretty extensively.

MSNBC

The Times gave me good results, but it was behind a paywall, and I'm a cheapskate.

Essentially the article was written by someone who, at worst, was lying or at best, needs to learn how to operate a search bar.

Or, they looked at print, television, and radio instead of the Internets and blog posts.

[Quality Start Machine]

The point you're missing (or ignoring) here is...

he's claiming there's been no media coverage. It took me a 2 second search on CNN's site to pull up that clip.

So then, you moved the goalposts (1 story, no followup), so I moved them (Worked for Brietbart), we can continue that all day, but nobody here wants their time wasted.

But since you asked:

CBS

I'll give you ABC, only because their site is an abomination that only links to AP. Which is covering the story pretty extensively.

MSNBC

The Times gave me good results, but it was behind a paywall, and I'm a cheapskate.

Essentially the article was written by someone who, at worst, was lying or at best, needs to learn how to operate a search bar.

Or, they looked at print, television, and radio instead of the Internets and blog posts.

or...

Just before writing this article, I did a Google search and it's stunning to find out that the right wing media really isn't exaggerating -- proven death threats against politicians are being ignored by the supposedly honest media. If you've never agreed with a single thing that Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly et al have said about anything, you can't in any good conscience say that they don't have a point here. Death threats are wrong and if a story like Wisconsin is national news for days, then so are death threats.

At this point we're just beating a dead Sarah Jessica Parker. Let's get back to how much the Cubs will suck.

[morpheus]

The point you're missing (or ignoring) here is...

he's claiming there's been no media coverage. It took me a 2 second search on CNN's site to pull up that clip.

So then, you moved the goalposts (1 story, no followup), so I moved them (Worked for Brietbart), we can continue that all day, but nobody here wants their time wasted.

But since you asked:

CBS

I'll give you ABC, only because their site is an abomination that only links to AP. Which is covering the story pretty extensively.

MSNBC

The Times gave me good results, but it was behind a paywall, and I'm a cheapskate.

Essentially the article was written by someone who, at worst, was lying or at best, needs to learn how to operate a search bar.

Or, they looked at print, television, and radio instead of the Internets and blog posts.

or...

Just before writing this article, I did a Google search and it's stunning to find out that the right wing media really isn't exaggerating -- proven death threats against politicians are being ignored by the supposedly honest media. If you've never agreed with a single thing that Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly et al have said about anything, you can't in any good conscience say that they don't have a point here. Death threats are wrong and if a story like Wisconsin is national news for days, then so are death threats.

At this point we're just beating a dead Sarah Jessica Parker. Let's get back to how much the Cubs will suck.

Castillo time... it's gonna happen

[Quality Start Machine]

The point you're missing (or ignoring) here is...

he's claiming there's been no media coverage. It took me a 2 second search on CNN's site to pull up that clip.

So then, you moved the goalposts (1 story, no followup), so I moved them (Worked for Brietbart), we can continue that all day, but nobody here wants their time wasted.

But since you asked:

CBS

I'll give you ABC, only because their site is an abomination that only links to AP. Which is covering the story pretty extensively.

MSNBC

The Times gave me good results, but it was behind a paywall, and I'm a cheapskate.

Essentially the article was written by someone who, at worst, was lying or at best, needs to learn how to operate a search bar.

Or, they looked at print, television, and radio instead of the Internets and blog posts.

or...

Just before writing this article, I did a Google search and it's stunning to find out that the right wing media really isn't exaggerating -- proven death threats against politicians are being ignored by the supposedly honest media. If you've never agreed with a single thing that Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly et al have said about anything, you can't in any good conscience say that they don't have a point here. Death threats are wrong and if a story like Wisconsin is national news for days, then so are death threats.

At this point we're just beating a dead Sarah Jessica Parker. Let's get back to how much the Cubs will suck.

Castillo time... it's gonna happen

We're gonna need a lot of Malort.

[R-V]

Not much to argue with here.

Why is Libya so different? Basically, because the dictators of Yemen, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia — also Jordan and the Persian Gulf sheikdoms, for that matter — are friendly, cooperative and useful. Gaddafi is not.

Gaddafi is crazy and evil; obviously, he wasn't going to listen to our advice about democracy. The world would be fortunate to be rid of him. But war in Libya is justifiable only if we are going to hold compliant dictators to the same standard we set for defiant ones. If not, then please spare us all the homilies about universal rights and freedoms. We'll know this isn't about justice, it's about power.

[Gilgamesh]

Not much to argue with here.

Why is Libya so different? Basically, because the dictators of Yemen, Bahrain and Saudi Arabia — also Jordan and the Persian Gulf sheikdoms, for that matter — are friendly, cooperative and useful. Gaddafi is not.

Gaddafi is crazy and evil; obviously, he wasn't going to listen to our advice about democracy. The world would be fortunate to be rid of him. But war in Libya is justifiable only if we are going to hold compliant dictators to the same standard we set for defiant ones. If not, then please spare us all the homilies about universal rights and freedoms. We'll know this isn't about justice, it's about power.

While I don't necessarily believe that another war was the right decision (I'm just going to go ahead and note MikeC's conspicuous absence from the thread since the war began), I can accept the argument that intervention in Libya was warranted over say Côte d'Ivoire or Rwanda.  Geographically, Libya is sandwiched between two Arab states that have recently thrown out long-standing (and US supported, but that's another matter) leaders.  If the policy of the United States government is to foment this nascent Arab revolution, it cannot allow the progress to be stopped by Qaddafi.  Think of the moral hazard if every Arab dictator believes that in order to forestall a revolution, all he needs to do is brutalize his people for a certain period of time, receive the inevitable lukewarm Western condemnation, and then go about his business?

I don't think anyone knows exactly the motivation and disposition of the rebels in Libya towards the United States, but I feel that with the US seemingly taking a reduced role in this war and engaging nevertheless, it sends a strong signal going forward for revolutions elsewhere.

I could also be wrong, who knows.

[Chuck to Chuck]

(I'm just going to go ahead and note MikeC's conspicuous absence from the thread since the war began)

His "Time to post!" clock doesn't go off for another week.