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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #345 on: November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM »
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #346 on: November 29, 2013, 04:08:49 PM »
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

I still blame Paul Bako for every bad thing that has ever happened.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #347 on: November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM »
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse. 
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #348 on: December 01, 2013, 09:52:14 AM »
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse. 

Kottaras is as good of a backup catcher option as one could reasonably expect. He gets on base, has a little power and isn't very good defensively, which is why he's a backup. There are like 10 all-around good catchers in the entire world but there need to be 60 of them employed at any given time, so I'm not sure what you expected from this move.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #349 on: December 01, 2013, 11:44:25 AM »
Quote from: Eli on December 01, 2013, 09:52:14 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse. 

Kottaras is as good of a backup catcher option as one could reasonably expect. He gets on base, has a little power and isn't very good defensively, which is why he's a backup. There are like 10 all-around good catchers in the entire world but there need to be 60 of them employed at any given time, so I'm not sure what you expected from this move.

I think he wanted them to sign Cano first and then take care of the backup catcher position.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #350 on: December 01, 2013, 01:18:35 PM »
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse. 

While I fully understand your impatience there are so many holes on the club you could make a case for being terrible. Second base? How about that. Let's start there. We don't bitch about it enough.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #351 on: December 01, 2013, 06:51:14 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on December 01, 2013, 01:18:35 PM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse. 

While I fully understand your impatience there are so many holes on the club you could make a case for being terrible. Second base? How about that. Let's start there. We don't bitch about it enough.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #352 on: December 02, 2013, 08:07:13 AM »
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse. 

Overpaying Dioner Mantle for his fluke 2013 would be the mistake.  Hendry would've given him three years, $15M after an intense bidding war with himself.  If this were Welington Castillo being replaced with Kottaras, I'd be with you, but this is more like resigning yourself to the worst Christmas ever because Dad used cheaper bulbs on the wall side of the tree.  And we still have Steve Clevenger!  Oh wait.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #353 on: December 02, 2013, 08:28:02 AM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 02, 2013, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse. 

Overpaying Dioner Mantle for his fluke 2013 would be the mistake.  Hendry would've given him three years, $15M after an intense bidding war with himself.  If this were Welington Castillo being replaced with Kottaras, I'd be with you, but this is more like resigning yourself to the worst Christmas ever because Dad used cheaper bulbs on the wall side of the tree.  And we still have Steve Clevenger!  Oh wait.

Yeah, Stew will get the Christmas tree analogy.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #354 on: December 02, 2013, 08:48:12 AM »
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #355 on: December 02, 2013, 08:53:19 AM »
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 02, 2013, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse.  

Overpaying Dioner Mantle for his fluke 2013 would be the mistake.  Hendry would've given him three years, $15M after an intense bidding war with himself.  If this were Welington Castillo being replaced with Kottaras, I'd be with you, but this is more like resigning yourself to the worst Christmas ever because Dad used cheaper bulbs on the wall side of the tree.  And we still have Steve Clevenger!  Oh wait.

Plus, Navarro was probably looking for a starting gig, like the one he just got in Toronto.

ETA: 2 years, $8 million. Better there than here.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #356 on: December 02, 2013, 09:02:55 AM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on December 02, 2013, 08:28:02 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 02, 2013, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse. 

Overpaying Dioner Mantle for his fluke 2013 would be the mistake.  Hendry would've given him three years, $15M after an intense bidding war with himself.  If this were Welington Castillo being replaced with Kottaras, I'd be with you, but this is more like resigning yourself to the worst Christmas ever because Dad used cheaper bulbs on the wall side of the tree.  And we still have Steve Clevenger!  Oh wait.

Yeah, Stew will get the Christmas tree analogy.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #357 on: December 02, 2013, 09:32:07 AM »
Quote from: Fork on December 02, 2013, 08:53:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 02, 2013, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse.  

Overpaying Dioner Mantle for his fluke 2013 would be the mistake.  Hendry would've given him three years, $15M after an intense bidding war with himself.  If this were Welington Castillo being replaced with Kottaras, I'd be with you, but this is more like resigning yourself to the worst Christmas ever because Dad used cheaper bulbs on the wall side of the tree.  And we still have Steve Clevenger!  Oh wait.

Plus, Navarro was probably looking for a starting gig, like the one he just got in Toronto.

ETA: 2 years, $8 million. Better there than here.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #358 on: December 02, 2013, 10:42:24 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 02, 2013, 09:32:07 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 02, 2013, 08:53:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 02, 2013, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse.  

Overpaying Dioner Mantle for his fluke 2013 would be the mistake.  Hendry would've given him three years, $15M after an intense bidding war with himself.  If this were Welington Castillo being replaced with Kottaras, I'd be with you, but this is more like resigning yourself to the worst Christmas ever because Dad used cheaper bulbs on the wall side of the tree.  And we still have Steve Clevenger!  Oh wait.

Plus, Navarro was probably looking for a starting gig, like the one he just got in Toronto.

ETA: 2 years, $8 million. Better there than here.

The Cubs should have signed Ray Emery.

Or Josh McNown.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #359 on: December 02, 2013, 12:05:49 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on December 02, 2013, 10:42:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 02, 2013, 09:32:07 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 02, 2013, 08:53:19 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on December 02, 2013, 08:07:13 AM
Quote from: CBStew on November 30, 2013, 10:58:55 PM
Quote from: CT III on November 28, 2013, 07:28:39 PM
Quote from: Fork on November 28, 2013, 01:04:17 PM
There are still plenty of failure points that will prevent the Cubs from winning that are more critical than backup catcher.

Yes, but considering most of us on this messageboard spent the better part of two years blaming everything that went wrong on Paul Bako, I'm going to cut Stew some slack on that.

My point was that of all the things that they could be doing, going after a backup catcher who is a definite downgrade over the previous backup catcher sends a signal that as bad as last year was, next year will be worse.  

Overpaying Dioner Mantle for his fluke 2013 would be the mistake.  Hendry would've given him three years, $15M after an intense bidding war with himself.  If this were Welington Castillo being replaced with Kottaras, I'd be with you, but this is more like resigning yourself to the worst Christmas ever because Dad used cheaper bulbs on the wall side of the tree.  And we still have Steve Clevenger!  Oh wait.

Plus, Navarro was probably looking for a starting gig, like the one he just got in Toronto.

ETA: 2 years, $8 million. Better there than here.

The Cubs should have signed Ray Emery.

Or Josh McNown.

I think the plan was to have Girardi player-manage.
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