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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #495 on: January 22, 2014, 02:33:49 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on January 22, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
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Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

How is the yankees lineup at all as bad as the cubs?

Pretty certain nothing is as bad as the Cubs

Pretty certain that you haven't looked at the Astros' depth chart lately.

They'll be good before the Cubs are.

Now you're just being butthurt. Nobody can say when either team will be good. 

You're right

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #496 on: January 22, 2014, 02:43:36 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
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Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

The fuck do the Cubs care about the Yankees luxury tax?

Yeah, that's nonsense.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #497 on: January 22, 2014, 02:47:31 PM »
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.
Theo: Tom, can I have $155 million to sign a pitcher?
Tom: Dad says, "No."
Theo: OK, then I'll bid up the price knowing we can't win so the Yankees will pay luxury tax that's given to the small market teams.
Tom: Sounds good to me.

Yeah, that never happened.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #498 on: January 22, 2014, 02:53:58 PM »
So it could be they out bid and lost to the no trade clauses and extra stuff - or they fake bid

I can't for the life of me imagine a team just saying yeah we'll bid 150 million even though we don't have it because we know the Yankees will beat it.

That's just not real world thinking.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #499 on: January 22, 2014, 02:55:20 PM »
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 02:43:36 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:14:14 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
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Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

The fuck do the Cubs care about the Yankees luxury tax?

Yeah, that's nonsense.

Maybe they thought that there was a slim chance that the deal would fall apart with the Yankees and wanted to be in the mix if that happened.

Anyway, I hope Tanaka sucks now.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #500 on: January 22, 2014, 02:55:25 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on January 22, 2014, 02:53:58 PM
So it could be they out bid and lost to the no trade clauses and extra stuff - or they fake bid

I can't for the life of me imagine a team just saying yeah we'll bid 150 million even though we don't have it because we know the Yankees will beat it.

That's just not real world thinking.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #501 on: January 22, 2014, 03:06:00 PM »
Quote from: BH on January 22, 2014, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

How is the yankees lineup at all as bad as the cubs?

They didn't finish 4th by accident, and this year they lost Chuck's Wet Dream. Sure, maybe Soriano might be able to continue his 2013 pace after joining the Yankees, and maybe Texiera comes back. But most likely, we're looking at Beltran and a bunch of dudes.

The one thing they've got going for them is their starting pitching will be OK if Kuroda can give them another good year, and Robertson will move into the closer's role. But that's about it. A-Rod is done and Jeter needs the plug pulled.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #502 on: January 22, 2014, 03:12:47 PM »
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: BH on January 22, 2014, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

How is the yankees lineup at all as bad as the cubs?

They didn't finish 4th by accident, and this year they lost Chuck's Wet Dream. Sure, maybe Soriano might be able to continue his 2013 pace after joining the Yankees, and maybe Texiera comes back. But most likely, we're looking at Beltran and a bunch of dudes.

The one thing they've got going for them is their starting pitching will be OK if Kuroda can give them another good year, and Robertson will move into the closer's role. But that's about it. A-Rod is done and Jeter needs the plug pulled.

So how is that lineup as bad as the Cubs then?


Who do the Cubs have who is as good as Ellsbury, Beltran or McCann? Start there. Then we'll have to throw out the "maybe" Texiera comes back, you dropped. He'll be available for Spring Training, I hear. They still have Soriano and Ichiro and what's left of Jeter. And they won 80 some games with less than even that last year.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #503 on: January 22, 2014, 03:30:33 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on January 22, 2014, 03:12:47 PM
Who do the Cubs have who is as good as Ellsbury, Beltran or McCann? Start there. Then we'll have to throw out the "maybe" Texiera comes back, you dropped. He'll be available for Spring Training, I hear. They still have Soriano and Ichiro and what's left of Jeter. And they won 80 some games with less than even that last year.

While the Cubs lost two of their better hitters from an already-bad lineup.

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #504 on: January 22, 2014, 04:27:57 PM »
Quote from: InternetApex on January 22, 2014, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: BH on January 22, 2014, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

How is the yankees lineup at all as bad as the cubs?

They didn't finish 4th by accident, and this year they lost Chuck's Wet Dream. Sure, maybe Soriano might be able to continue his 2013 pace after joining the Yankees, and maybe Texiera comes back. But most likely, we're looking at Beltran and a bunch of dudes.

The one thing they've got going for them is their starting pitching will be OK if Kuroda can give them another good year, and Robertson will move into the closer's role. But that's about it. A-Rod is done and Jeter needs the plug pulled.

So how is that lineup as bad as the Cubs then?


Who do the Cubs have who is as good as Ellsbury, Beltran or McCann? Start there. Then we'll have to throw out the "maybe" Texiera comes back, you dropped. He'll be available for Spring Training, I hear. They still have Soriano and Ichiro and what's left of Jeter. And they won 80 some games with less than even that last year.

Ichiro wasn't an error of omission. 2 of the last 3 years his OBP has been under .300.

EDIT: I misread the statlines on B-R. Irregardless, last year's .297 was the fourth straight year of decline. He's done.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #505 on: January 22, 2014, 04:32:35 PM »
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 22, 2014, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: BH on January 22, 2014, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

How is the yankees lineup at all as bad as the cubs?

They didn't finish 4th by accident, and this year they lost Chuck's Wet Dream. Sure, maybe Soriano might be able to continue his 2013 pace after joining the Yankees, and maybe Texiera comes back. But most likely, we're looking at Beltran and a bunch of dudes.

The one thing they've got going for them is their starting pitching will be OK if Kuroda can give them another good year, and Robertson will move into the closer's role. But that's about it. A-Rod is done and Jeter needs the plug pulled.

So how is that lineup as bad as the Cubs then?


Who do the Cubs have who is as good as Ellsbury, Beltran or McCann? Start there. Then we'll have to throw out the "maybe" Texiera comes back, you dropped. He'll be available for Spring Training, I hear. They still have Soriano and Ichiro and what's left of Jeter. And they won 80 some games with less than even that last year.

Ichiro wasn't an error of omission. 2 of the last 3 years his OBP has been under .300.

EDIT: I misread the statlines on B-R. Irregardless, last year's .297 was the fourth straight year of decline. He's done.

Irregardless, what about everything else he said?

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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #506 on: January 22, 2014, 04:39:59 PM »
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 04:32:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 22, 2014, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: BH on January 22, 2014, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

How is the yankees lineup at all as bad as the cubs?

They didn't finish 4th by accident, and this year they lost Chuck's Wet Dream. Sure, maybe Soriano might be able to continue his 2013 pace after joining the Yankees, and maybe Texiera comes back. But most likely, we're looking at Beltran and a bunch of dudes.

The one thing they've got going for them is their starting pitching will be OK if Kuroda can give them another good year, and Robertson will move into the closer's role. But that's about it. A-Rod is done and Jeter needs the plug pulled.

So how is that lineup as bad as the Cubs then?


Who do the Cubs have who is as good as Ellsbury, Beltran or McCann? Start there. Then we'll have to throw out the "maybe" Texiera comes back, you dropped. He'll be available for Spring Training, I hear. They still have Soriano and Ichiro and what's left of Jeter. And they won 80 some games with less than even that last year.

Ichiro wasn't an error of omission. 2 of the last 3 years his OBP has been under .300.

EDIT: I misread the statlines on B-R. Irregardless, last year's .297 was the fourth straight year of decline. He's done.

Irregardless, what about everything else he said?

And how did driving up the price to the Yankees help the Cubs set up the play action?
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #507 on: January 22, 2014, 05:58:48 PM »
Quote from: Bort on January 22, 2014, 04:39:59 PM
Quote from: Eli on January 22, 2014, 04:32:35 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 04:27:57 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on January 22, 2014, 03:12:47 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 03:06:00 PM
Quote from: BH on January 22, 2014, 02:14:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.

How is the yankees lineup at all as bad as the cubs?

They didn't finish 4th by accident, and this year they lost Chuck's Wet Dream. Sure, maybe Soriano might be able to continue his 2013 pace after joining the Yankees, and maybe Texiera comes back. But most likely, we're looking at Beltran and a bunch of dudes.

The one thing they've got going for them is their starting pitching will be OK if Kuroda can give them another good year, and Robertson will move into the closer's role. But that's about it. A-Rod is done and Jeter needs the plug pulled.

So how is that lineup as bad as the Cubs then?


Who do the Cubs have who is as good as Ellsbury, Beltran or McCann? Start there. Then we'll have to throw out the "maybe" Texiera comes back, you dropped. He'll be available for Spring Training, I hear. They still have Soriano and Ichiro and what's left of Jeter. And they won 80 some games with less than even that last year.

Ichiro wasn't an error of omission. 2 of the last 3 years his OBP has been under .300.

EDIT: I misread the statlines on B-R. Irregardless, last year's .297 was the fourth straight year of decline. He's done.

Irregardless, what about everything else he said?

And how did driving up the price to the Yankees help the Cubs set up the play action?

Now I understand what a "play action fake" is in baseball.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #508 on: January 22, 2014, 06:11:00 PM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on January 22, 2014, 02:47:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on January 22, 2014, 02:12:35 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 22, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Sucks if this is true.





Which means Epstink just drove the price up to make sure the Yankees paid through the nose in luxury tax, while they still have a starting lineup almost as bad as the Cubs.

I'll sign off on that.
Theo: Tom, can I have $155 million to sign a pitcher?
Tom: Dad says, "No."
Theo: OK, then I'll bid up the price knowing we can't win so the Yankees will pay luxury tax that's given to the small market teams and since we're not a small market team that money will go directly to our competitors and help them get better, maybe better enough to beat us.
Tom: Sounds good to me.

Yeah, that never happened.

No, Chuck.

EDIT: This might have been Chuckian sarcasm, but I'm finding it hard to tell.
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Re: Theo Epstein Sploosh Thread
« Reply #509 on: January 22, 2014, 11:22:03 PM »
I admit I got my hopes up, but got over it fast. Tanaka would have been a nice piece, but there would have been a lot of risk involved too.  Losing out on a bidding war with the Yankees to get a guy with a lot of wear on his arm already even if he is young isn't the end of the world. Theo can just grab him when he opts out in a few years.