Given the U.S. draw this is going to be a short lived thread.
Quote from: flannj on December 06, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Given the U.S. draw this is going to be a short lived thread.
That's one reason.
Quote from: Eli on December 06, 2013, 11:37:09 AM
Quote from: flannj on December 06, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Given the U.S. draw this is going to be a short lived thread.
That's one reason.
Another is any draw would make their stay in Brazil short because most countries are better at soccer.
Another, as Eli so coolly pointed out, is that SOCCER IS FOR QUEERDICKED TARDBAGS.
Anyway, this queerdicked tardbag thinks it's more fun to play the best teams so I'm excited.
Quote from: Slaky on December 06, 2013, 01:21:22 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 06, 2013, 11:37:09 AM
Quote from: flannj on December 06, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Given the U.S. draw this is going to be a short lived thread.
That's one reason.
Another is any draw would make their stay in Brazil short because most countries are better at soccer.
Another, as Eli so coolly pointed out, is that SOCCER IS FOR QUEERDICKED TARDBAGS.
Anyway, this queerdicked tardbag thinks it's more fun to play the best teams so I'm excited.
I have no problem with soccer, just saying that it's not heavily discussed 'round these parts.
From the little bit I know, that last part makes sense. Seems like a fun narrative to go up against the best with the chance to pull off a huge upset. Like when the Rose-less Bulls beat the Miami Heat by 20 for some reason.
Quote from: Eli on December 06, 2013, 01:47:57 PM
I have no problem with soccer, just saying that it's not heavily discussed 'round these parts.
What is?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 06, 2013, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 06, 2013, 01:47:57 PM
I have no problem with soccer, just saying that it's not heavily discussed 'round these parts.
What is?
A bunch of TV shows that it seems like everyone who watches actually hates.
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Quote from: PenFoe on December 06, 2013, 01:57:48 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 06, 2013, 01:49:38 PM
Quote from: Eli on December 06, 2013, 01:47:57 PM
I have no problem with soccer, just saying that it's not heavily discussed 'round these parts.
What is?
A bunch of TV shows that it seems like everyone who watches actually hates.
And sometimes Stew's impatience with the Cubs rebuild.
The only time I watch grass hockey is during the World Cup. And it is awesome. Go sports!
The soccer World Cup makes me wish the IIHF could finally get their shit together and do a hockey one at regular intervals. That would fucking rule.
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
The soccer World Cup makes me wish the IIHF could finally get their shit together and do a hockey one at regular intervals. That would fucking rule.
In addition to the Winter Olympics? So you would have your regular seasons interrupted every two years instead of four? I'm not arguing against it but is that something you would want? How would you make it better than the Olympic tournament if you ran the zoo?
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 09, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
The soccer World Cup makes me wish the IIHF could finally get their shit together and do a hockey one at regular intervals. That would fucking rule.
In addition to the Winter Olympics? So you would have your regular seasons interrupted every two years instead of four? I'm not arguing against it but is that something you would want? How would you make it better than the Olympic tournament if you ran the zoo?
They had this non-Olympic tournament a few times under varying names and there was one in particular when the USA won it and I remember being extremely excited about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_World_Cup_of_Hockey
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 09, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
The soccer World Cup makes me wish the IIHF could finally get their shit together and do a hockey one at regular intervals. That would fucking rule.
In addition to the Winter Olympics? So you would have your regular seasons interrupted every two years instead of four? I'm not arguing against it but is that something you would want? How would you make it better than the Olympic tournament if you ran the zoo?
They had this non-Olympic tournament a few times under varying names and there was one in particular when the USA won it and I remember being extremely excited about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_World_Cup_of_Hockey
That's the ticket. Have a pre-NHL season tourney, while everyone is healthy.
Although, it's easy to want this as an American, since the US is one of the four countries (the others being Russia, Canada and Sweden) who are in the medal round of every international tournament from Juniors up.
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 09, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
The soccer World Cup makes me wish the IIHF could finally get their shit together and do a hockey one at regular intervals. That would fucking rule.
In addition to the Winter Olympics? So you would have your regular seasons interrupted every two years instead of four? I'm not arguing against it but is that something you would want? How would you make it better than the Olympic tournament if you ran the zoo?
They had this non-Olympic tournament a few times under varying names and there was one in particular when the USA won it and I remember being extremely excited about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_World_Cup_of_Hockey
That's the ticket. Have a pre-NHL season tourney, while everyone is healthy.
Although, it's easy to want this as an American, since the US is one of the four countries (the others being Russia, Canada and Sweden) who are in the medal round of every international tournament from Juniors up.
I'm not sure what the point is now that Tore Vikingstad is retired.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on December 09, 2013, 12:55:12 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 09, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
The soccer World Cup makes me wish the IIHF could finally get their shit together and do a hockey one at regular intervals. That would fucking rule.
In addition to the Winter Olympics? So you would have your regular seasons interrupted every two years instead of four? I'm not arguing against it but is that something you would want? How would you make it better than the Olympic tournament if you ran the zoo?
They had this non-Olympic tournament a few times under varying names and there was one in particular when the USA won it and I remember being extremely excited about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_World_Cup_of_Hockey
That's the ticket. Have a pre-NHL season tourney, while everyone is healthy.
Although, it's easy to want this as an American, since the US is one of the four countries (the others being Russia, Canada and Sweden) who are in the medal round of every international tournament from Juniors up.
I'm not sure what the point is now that Tore Vikingstad is retired.
We can always hope for Germany to mend our broken hearts (http://www.sportsgrid.com/media/patrick-fucker-goalie/).
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 09, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
The soccer World Cup makes me wish the IIHF could finally get their shit together and do a hockey one at regular intervals. That would fucking rule.
In addition to the Winter Olympics? So you would have your regular seasons interrupted every two years instead of four? I'm not arguing against it but is that something you would want? How would you make it better than the Olympic tournament if you ran the zoo?
They had this non-Olympic tournament a few times under varying names and there was one in particular when the USA won it and I remember being extremely excited about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_World_Cup_of_Hockey
That's the ticket. Have a pre-NHL season tourney, while everyone is healthy.
Although, it's easy to want this as an American, since the US is one of the four countries (the others being Russia, Canada and Sweden) who are in the medal round of every international tournament from Juniors up.
Just like baseball!
Seriously, I don't see this happening. As Fork pointed out, there's 4 countries that could definitely drum up interest, maybe 6 if you count Finland and somehow reunited Czechoslovakia.
Other than that you're going to have a bunch of countries getting their asses handed to them while fielding teams full of 4th generation Canadians whose great-great grandfathers came over from Ireland or Spain or Poland.
Which is pretty much how the preliminary rounds of the Olympics go.
So you can put me down as a "present" vote.
Quote from: CT III on December 09, 2013, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 09, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
The soccer World Cup makes me wish the IIHF could finally get their shit together and do a hockey one at regular intervals. That would fucking rule.
In addition to the Winter Olympics? So you would have your regular seasons interrupted every two years instead of four? I'm not arguing against it but is that something you would want? How would you make it better than the Olympic tournament if you ran the zoo?
They had this non-Olympic tournament a few times under varying names and there was one in particular when the USA won it and I remember being extremely excited about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_World_Cup_of_Hockey
That's the ticket. Have a pre-NHL season tourney, while everyone is healthy.
Although, it's easy to want this as an American, since the US is one of the four countries (the others being Russia, Canada and Sweden) who are in the medal round of every international tournament from Juniors up.
Just like baseball!
Seriously, I don't see this happening. As Fork pointed out, there's 4 countries that could definitely drum up interest, maybe 6 if you count Finland and somehow reunited Czechoslovakia.
Other than that you're going to have a bunch of countries getting their asses handed to them while fielding teams full of 4th generation Canadians whose great-great grandfathers came over from Ireland or Spain or Poland.
Which is pretty much how the preliminary rounds of the Olympics go.
So you can put me down as a "present" vote.
The only difference with the Baseball "World Cup" is that the sport is no longer in the Olympics, but aside from that, I think that for soccer and hockey, having just the one major international competition suffices for most.
While I don't normally care for soccer, I typically will watch a few games (or moments of a few games) during the World Cup, but I don't watch any of it in the Olympics, mostly because it's superfluous compared to the World Cup. Part of what make Olympic hockey so appealing, on the other hand, is that it is the sole international competition for the best players, which doesn't dilute the impact of the event.
Adding another international hockey competition would do that, I believe.
But I'd probably still watch it.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on December 09, 2013, 04:57:52 PM
Quote from: CT III on December 09, 2013, 02:51:03 PM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 12:38:20 PM
Quote from: Slaky on December 09, 2013, 10:05:58 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on December 09, 2013, 09:14:43 AM
Quote from: Fork on December 09, 2013, 08:58:35 AM
The soccer World Cup makes me wish the IIHF could finally get their shit together and do a hockey one at regular intervals. That would fucking rule.
In addition to the Winter Olympics? So you would have your regular seasons interrupted every two years instead of four? I'm not arguing against it but is that something you would want? How would you make it better than the Olympic tournament if you ran the zoo?
They had this non-Olympic tournament a few times under varying names and there was one in particular when the USA won it and I remember being extremely excited about it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1996_World_Cup_of_Hockey
That's the ticket. Have a pre-NHL season tourney, while everyone is healthy.
Although, it's easy to want this as an American, since the US is one of the four countries (the others being Russia, Canada and Sweden) who are in the medal round of every international tournament from Juniors up.
Just like baseball!
Seriously, I don't see this happening. As Fork pointed out, there's 4 countries that could definitely drum up interest, maybe 6 if you count Finland and somehow reunited Czechoslovakia.
Other than that you're going to have a bunch of countries getting their asses handed to them while fielding teams full of 4th generation Canadians whose great-great grandfathers came over from Ireland or Spain or Poland.
Which is pretty much how the preliminary rounds of the Olympics go.
So you can put me down as a "present" vote.
The only difference with the Baseball "World Cup" is that the sport is no longer in the Olympics, but aside from that, I think that for soccer and hockey, having just the one major international competition suffices for most.
While I don't normally care for soccer, I typically will watch a few games (or moments of a few games) during the World Cup, but I don't watch any of it in the Olympics, mostly because it's superfluous compared to the World Cup. Part of what make Olympic hockey so appealing, on the other hand, is that it is the sole international competition for the best players, which doesn't dilute the impact of the event.
Adding another international hockey competition would do that, I believe.
But I'd probably still watch it.
I tend to agree with this.
Especially for sports like soccer and hockey that don't have the full mainstream crowd in the US, it's a lot easier to just know when is the one time you're supposed to watch.
For the non diehards, we know to watch the World Cup for soccer and the Olympics (and the Stanley Cup) for hockey.
Anything beyond that is for the diehards - that's a tough sell financially in the U.S.
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Soccer is, without a doubt, the dumbest, gayest, piece of boring shit sport to watch ever.
And I routinely watch baseball.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 28, 2014, 01:27:36 PM
Soccer is, without a doubt, the dumbest, gayest, piece of boring shit sport to watch ever.
And I routinely watch baseball.
It's your loss, guys. Seriously.
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 01:43:47 PM
It's your loss, guys. Seriously.
This guy here, he knows what he's talking about.
Sometimes people are interested in different sports and things.
Some people like soccer. Others use 'gay" as a pejorative multiple times in a day.
Some men just want to watch the TIME TO POST.
I don't know that it's the gayest dumbest sport. I'd put up a good argument about Figure Skating.
That being said, I pretty much fall on the side of what Eli said. I don't really get the allure of soccer, but a shitton of foreign people like it. You may believe Americans like soccer, but really that's just a bunch of Twitter accounts that Slaky has created.
Look, four years ago when I was younger and dumber than I am now I carried the flag of anti-soccerism as far as I could. Like all good Americans I do think it's boring and that foreigners are weird.
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
Also it's like roughly 1.2 million times better than NASCAR, and that's a purely American boring ass sport.
Also if we can refrain from the SOCCER IS GHEY shit I would hope soccer fans can refrain from the old FASTEST GROWING YOUTH SPORT IN AMERICA retort. It's not going to happen, people. Those kids are just running around learning the basics of organized sport before they go on to play something more American. The only way it actually becomes one of the dominant American sports is if Obummer keeps lolly-gagging on building the giant electrified fence with gator moat to keep all of the illegals from taking our jobs and demanding more boring roundball instead of 18 minutes of kickass football sandwiched between 2 1/2 hours of beer commercials.
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
Look, four years ago when I was younger and dumber than I am now I carried the flag of anti-soccerism as far as I could. Like all good Americans I do think it's boring and that foreigners are weird.
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
Also it's like roughly 1.2 million times better than NASCAR, and that's a purely American boring ass sport.
NASCAR is an American boring ass sport, but wikipedia tells me the French started Auto Racing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auto_racing#The_beginning_of_competition
So, still their fault. ("Their", being anything not American)
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Also if we can refrain from the SOCCER IS GHEY shit I would hope soccer fans can refrain from the old FASTEST GROWING YOUTH SPORT IN AMERICA retort. It's not going to happen, people. Those kids just around learning the basics of organized sport before they go on to play something more American. The only way it actually becomes one of the dominant American sports is if Obummer keeps lolly-gagging on building the giant electrified fence with gator moat to keep all of the illegals from taking our jobs and demanding more boring roundball instead of 18 minutes of kickass football sandwiched between 2 1/2 hours of beer commercials.
It's easier and cheaper to have a bunch of 6 year olds play soccer until they're about 10 and their skulls/brains are fully developed enough to withstand all the blows the football causes.
I don't hate soccer, and I don't hate foreigners for liking soccer so much.
Soccer's just boring. It's really, really boring. And, you know, since foreigners do like it so much, it kind of makes it gay. That's all.
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Also if we can refrain from the SOCCER IS GHEY shit I would hope soccer fans can refrain from the old FASTEST GROWING YOUTH SPORT IN AMERICA retort. It's not going to happen, people. Those kids just around learning the basics of organized sport before they go on to play something more American. The only way it actually becomes one of the dominant American sports is if Obummer keeps lolly-gagging on building the giant electrified fence with gator moat to keep all of the illegals from taking our jobs and demanding more boring roundball instead of 18 minutes of kickass football sandwiched between 2 1/2 hours of beer commercials.
It's easier and cheaper to have a bunch of 6 year olds play soccer until they're about 10 and their skulls/brains are fully developed enough to withstand all the blows the football causes.
It's not really cheaper, most kid teams are teams you pay to play for. Studies are now showing kids get concussions from heading the ball, which is likely why foreigners end up so weird.
Quote from: BH on May 28, 2014, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Also if we can refrain from the SOCCER IS GHEY shit I would hope soccer fans can refrain from the old FASTEST GROWING YOUTH SPORT IN AMERICA retort. It's not going to happen, people. Those kids just around learning the basics of organized sport before they go on to play something more American. The only way it actually becomes one of the dominant American sports is if Obummer keeps lolly-gagging on building the giant electrified fence with gator moat to keep all of the illegals from taking our jobs and demanding more boring roundball instead of 18 minutes of kickass football sandwiched between 2 1/2 hours of beer commercials.
It's easier and cheaper to have a bunch of 6 year olds play soccer until they're about 10 and their skulls/brains are fully developed enough to withstand all the blows the football causes.
It's not really cheaper, most kid teams are teams you pay to play for. Studies are now showing kids get concussions from heading the ball, which is likely why foreigners end up so weird.
I don't have kids, so I don't have firsthand experience, but in what country does it cost more to play soccer than it does to play football?
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 02:23:17 PM
Quote from: BH on May 28, 2014, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Also if we can refrain from the SOCCER IS GHEY shit I would hope soccer fans can refrain from the old FASTEST GROWING YOUTH SPORT IN AMERICA retort. It's not going to happen, people. Those kids just around learning the basics of organized sport before they go on to play something more American. The only way it actually becomes one of the dominant American sports is if Obummer keeps lolly-gagging on building the giant electrified fence with gator moat to keep all of the illegals from taking our jobs and demanding more boring roundball instead of 18 minutes of kickass football sandwiched between 2 1/2 hours of beer commercials.
It's easier and cheaper to have a bunch of 6 year olds play soccer until they're about 10 and their skulls/brains are fully developed enough to withstand all the blows the football causes.
It's not really cheaper, most kid teams are teams you pay to play for. Studies are now showing kids get concussions from heading the ball, which is likely why foreigners end up so weird.
I don't have kids, so I don't have firsthand experience, but in what country does it cost more to play soccer than it does to play football?
It costs almost nothing for my boy to play football. Also, kids aren't expected to head the ball.
Also: when I first saw baseball, I thought it was really, really boring. Then I started to understand the intricacies of it a bit, and I realised that it wasn't necessarily boring at all: indeed, sometimes it could be really quite exciting!
Just sayin'.
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 02:26:39 PM
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Quote from: BH on May 28, 2014, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Also if we can refrain from the SOCCER IS GHEY shit I would hope soccer fans can refrain from the old FASTEST GROWING YOUTH SPORT IN AMERICA retort. It's not going to happen, people. Those kids just around learning the basics of organized sport before they go on to play something more American. The only way it actually becomes one of the dominant American sports is if Obummer keeps lolly-gagging on building the giant electrified fence with gator moat to keep all of the illegals from taking our jobs and demanding more boring roundball instead of 18 minutes of kickass football sandwiched between 2 1/2 hours of beer commercials.
It's easier and cheaper to have a bunch of 6 year olds play soccer until they're about 10 and their skulls/brains are fully developed enough to withstand all the blows the football causes.
It's not really cheaper, most kid teams are teams you pay to play for. Studies are now showing kids get concussions from heading the ball, which is likely why foreigners end up so weird.
I don't have kids, so I don't have firsthand experience, but in what country does it cost more to play soccer than it does to play football?
It costs almost nothing for my boy to play football. Also, kids aren't expected to head the ball.
American soccer players are clearly tougher than foreign dancy dan soccer players, then.
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 02:28:58 PM
Also: when I first saw baseball, I thought it was really, really boring. Then I started to understand the intricacies of it a bit, and I realised that it wasn't necessarily boring at all: indeed, sometimes it could be really quite exciting!
Just sayin'.
But, baseball is beautiful. Like a pretty lady that has nice gams, a flat tummy and big hogans. Soccer is a concave chested emo dude who cuts himself.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 28, 2014, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 02:28:58 PM
Also: when I first saw baseball, I thought it was really, really boring. Then I started to understand the intricacies of it a bit, and I realised that it wasn't necessarily boring at all: indeed, sometimes it could be really quite exciting!
Just sayin'.
But, baseball is beautiful. Like a pretty lady that has nice gams, a flat tummy and big hogans. Soccer is a concave chested emo dude who cuts himself.
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She sounds fat.
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 02:23:17 PM
Quote from: BH on May 28, 2014, 02:21:13 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 02:12:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Also if we can refrain from the SOCCER IS GHEY shit I would hope soccer fans can refrain from the old FASTEST GROWING YOUTH SPORT IN AMERICA retort. It's not going to happen, people. Those kids just around learning the basics of organized sport before they go on to play something more American. The only way it actually becomes one of the dominant American sports is if Obummer keeps lolly-gagging on building the giant electrified fence with gator moat to keep all of the illegals from taking our jobs and demanding more boring roundball instead of 18 minutes of kickass football sandwiched between 2 1/2 hours of beer commercials.
It's easier and cheaper to have a bunch of 6 year olds play soccer until they're about 10 and their skulls/brains are fully developed enough to withstand all the blows the football causes.
It's not really cheaper, most kid teams are teams you pay to play for. Studies are now showing kids get concussions from heading the ball, which is likely why foreigners end up so weird.
I don't have kids, so I don't have firsthand experience, but in what country does it cost more to play soccer than it does to play football?
Soccer is all the rage for kids in brolumbus, along with lacrosse, which is odd. It's incredibly expensive to play, and that's not on a traveling team. Traveling teams cost thousands of dollars, plus travel. It's no where near as expensive as hockey. Football here is a couple hundred dollars.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 28, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
I don't hate soccer, and I don't hate foreigners for liking soccer so much.
Soccer's just boring. It's really, really boring. And, you know, since foreigners do like it so much, it kind of makes it gay. That's all.
Well, if a guy who wears pink, slim-fit polo shirts isn't Desipio's foremost expert on masculinity, I don't know who is.
Quote from: BH on May 28, 2014, 02:48:40 PM
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Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:10:46 PM
Also if we can refrain from the SOCCER IS GHEY shit I would hope soccer fans can refrain from the old FASTEST GROWING YOUTH SPORT IN AMERICA retort. It's not going to happen, people. Those kids just around learning the basics of organized sport before they go on to play something more American. The only way it actually becomes one of the dominant American sports is if Obummer keeps lolly-gagging on building the giant electrified fence with gator moat to keep all of the illegals from taking our jobs and demanding more boring roundball instead of 18 minutes of kickass football sandwiched between 2 1/2 hours of beer commercials.
It's easier and cheaper to have a bunch of 6 year olds play soccer until they're about 10 and their skulls/brains are fully developed enough to withstand all the blows the football causes.
It's not really cheaper, most kid teams are teams you pay to play for. Studies are now showing kids get concussions from heading the ball, which is likely why foreigners end up so weird.
I don't have kids, so I don't have firsthand experience, but in what country does it cost more to play soccer than it does to play football?
Soccer is all the rage for kids in brolumbus, along with lacrosse, which is odd. It's incredibly expensive to play, and that's not on a traveling team. Traveling teams cost thousands of dollars, plus travel. It's no where near as expensive as hockey. Football here is a couple hundred dollars.
It sounds like traveling costs money, but that would be true with any sport. A ball and some shoes is a hell of a lot cheaper than the body armor needed for football.
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our
most exciting American sports.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 28, 2014, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 02:28:58 PM
Also: when I first saw baseball, I thought it was really, really boring. Then I started to understand the intricacies of it a bit, and I realised that it wasn't necessarily boring at all: indeed, sometimes it could be really quite exciting!
Just sayin'.
But, baseball is beautiful. Like a pretty lady that has nice gams, a flat tummy and big hogans. Soccer is a concave chested emo dude who cuts himself.
I just fucking lol'd. I don't hate soccer either. I just don't want it anywhere near where I live.
Soccer's clock confuses me and until that is fixed I'm not interested.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
This is a fucking outstanding post. Seriously.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
I'm not disagreeing. I was mostly just saying that I don't know what it is they see in those gaps. The football comparison is good. I know what I see in those gaps. I've even tried to have soccer fans watch a game with me and explain what it is I'm supposed to be seeing. I'm not saying "HOW CAN ANYONE ENJOY THIS?" I'm saying that I, personally, cannot see it, but it's obviously there.
Quote from: CT III on May 28, 2014, 02:54:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 28, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
I don't hate soccer, and I don't hate foreigners for liking soccer so much.
Soccer's just boring. It's really, really boring. And, you know, since foreigners do like it so much, it kind of makes it gay. That's all.
Well, if a guy who wears pink, slim-fit polo shirts isn't Desipio's foremost expert on masculinity, I don't know who is.
They're button ups, goddammit.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 28, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
I don't hate soccer, and I don't hate foreigners for liking soccer so much.
Soccer's just boring. It's really, really boring. And, you know, since foreigners do like it so much, it kind of makes it gay. That's all.
You also think hockey is "boooooooooooooooooooooooooring". Which may be all that needs saying about your judgements on this count.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 28, 2014, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 02:28:58 PM
Also: when I first saw baseball, I thought it was really, really boring. Then I started to understand the intricacies of it a bit, and I realised that it wasn't necessarily boring at all: indeed, sometimes it could be really quite exciting!
Just sayin'.
But, baseball is beautiful. Like a pretty lady that has nice gams, a flat tummy and big hogans. Soccer is a concave chested emo dude who cuts himself.
They don't call baseball "The Beautiful Game" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beautiful_Game) for nothing.
Quote from: Tony on May 28, 2014, 02:56:55 PM
Soccer's clock confuses me and until that is fixed I'm not interested.
Also: where are my damn beer commercials?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
Man, going to an *actual* football game must fucking suck.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 03:00:04 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 28, 2014, 02:17:47 PM
I don't hate soccer, and I don't hate foreigners for liking soccer so much.
Soccer's just boring. It's really, really boring. And, you know, since foreigners do like it so much, it kind of makes it gay. That's all.
You also think hockey is "boooooooooooooooooooooooooring". Which may be all that needs saying about your judgements on this count.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 28, 2014, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 02:28:58 PM
Also: when I first saw baseball, I thought it was really, really boring. Then I started to understand the intricacies of it a bit, and I realised that it wasn't necessarily boring at all: indeed, sometimes it could be really quite exciting!
Just sayin'.
But, baseball is beautiful. Like a pretty lady that has nice gams, a flat tummy and big hogans. Soccer is a concave chested emo dude who cuts himself.
They don't call baseball "The Beautiful Game" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beautiful_Game) for nothing.
Let me clarify on hockey. I actually think hockee is quite entertaining and I watched a good bit of the Rangers/Whomevers the other night with my dad. Hockeetalk on that shit for brains SBox is boooooooooooooring.
There is nothing better than watching soccer in a pub with soccer fans, in the US or abroad. The world cup, takes that and makes it a lot better.
Go watch a World Cup match at small bar, on division if you don't get it. It's fantastic.
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
I'm not sure there's anything more responsible for football's rise to prominence than the invention of instant replay.
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
Man, going to an *actual* football game must fucking suck.
It's pretty inferior to staying at home and viewing the game on a large screen TV with twitter and a million stat-tracking websites and the option of viewing multiple games at the same time. Although there's nothing better than being their live when the awesome plays happen.
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 03:05:43 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
Man, going to an *actual* football game must fucking suck.
It's pretty inferior to staying at home and viewing the game on a large screen TV with twitter and a million stat-tracking websites and the option of viewing multiple games at the same time. Although there's nothing better than being their live when the awesome plays happen.
Whose live?
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 03:05:43 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Man, going to an *actual* football game must fucking suck.
It's pretty inferior to staying at home and viewing the game on a large screen TV with twitter and a million stat-tracking websites and the option of viewing multiple games at the same time. Although there's nothing better than being their live when the awesome plays happen.
Whose live?
I DON'T CARE WHOSE LIVE JUST SIT THE FUCK DOWN WHEN THE AWESOME PLAYS HAPPEN
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 03:05:43 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
Man, going to an *actual* football game must fucking suck.
It's pretty inferior to staying at home and viewing the game on a large screen TV with twitter and a million stat-tracking websites and the option of viewing multiple games at the same time. Although there's nothing better than being their live when the awesome plays happen.
I really like going to the games. When the Bears win and I was there to witness it, I have a great feeling that lasts for days. Certain plays like the great Jeffery grabs last year and game-turning picks of the the Lovie era sent the whole crowd into a hysteria that you just can't get at home in your pajamas with all your favorite nerds queering off on Twitter. That's a nice substitute. And the Bears don't always win, that's for sure. But Charles Tillman picking off Favre in the endzone and running it back 95 yards at the end of that half before they beat that motherfucker bloody in the second? I was there and we were fucking insane. All of us. Wild fucking dogs. Salivating... That's living. Fuck Twitter.
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
Man, going to an *actual* football game must fucking suck.
It actually kind of does.
Quote from: Eli on May 28, 2014, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
Man, going to an *actual* football game must fucking suck.
It actually kind of does.
Shaking my damn head.
Quote from: Eli on May 28, 2014, 03:15:13 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
Man, going to an *actual* football game must fucking suck.
It actually kind of does.
Unless you get a good seat. And I consider a good seat either A. In the suites where I can eat, drink and watch it on TV or B. In the mid or upper levels where I can see the plays develop.
Otherwise, it's much better to watch football at home.
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2014, 03:11:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 03:05:43 PM
Quote from: Tonker on May 28, 2014, 03:02:59 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 28, 2014, 03:01:39 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 02:55:18 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 02:07:44 PM
But really I just respect soccer fans at this point. How you muster up that much excitement for something that appears to be so uneventful is beyond me. I don't even say that as an insult or whatever. I gather that to soccer fans there's a million things going in in that seemingly interminable distance between goals that will never make sense to me or excite me. Yet most of the world lives and dies for it. Good on you.
I think the rest of the world probably says the same thing about American football.
Even if you take out the beer commercials altogether, the majority of your time spent watching the game is occupied by players shuffling on and off the field, standing around for a bit, maybe having a group hug in the backfield then standing together in lines facing each other while pointing and shouting at various people. Followed by a quick man-pile somewhere. Unstack man-pile. Wash. Rinse. Repeat.
Obviously, to our eyes, those incessant 40-second breaks in the action are where a lot of the game lives. Personnel and formations. Down and distance. Anticipation of play calls in the context of the game and history. But, if you don't have the familiarity with the sport for any of that context to register, any drama that might be found in the gaps is lost on you and it just looks like a whole lot of standing around punctuated by bouts of unintelligible chaos and man-piles. Whistle, dancing robot, beer ad.
And that's one of our most exciting American sports.
What helps football is that the networks have turned it into a great TV entertainment piece. Despite the shithole announcers you may get for your team's game, they're going to throw replays, graphics, stats, and interviews at you to make it feel like there's action the whole time.
Man, going to an *actual* football game must fucking suck.
It's pretty inferior to staying at home and viewing the game on a large screen TV with twitter and a million stat-tracking websites and the option of viewing multiple games at the same time. Although there's nothing better than being their live when the awesome plays happen.
I really like going to the games. When the Bears win and I was there to witness it, I have a great feeling that lasts for days. Certain plays like the great Jeffery grabs last year and game-turning picks of the the Lovie era sent the whole crowd into a hysteria that you just can't get at home in your pajamas with all your favorite nerds queering off on Twitter. That's a nice substitute. And the Bears don't always win, that's for sure. But Charles Tillman picking off Favre in the endzone and running it back 95 yards at the end of that half before they beat that motherfucker bloody in the second? I was there and we were fucking insane. All of us. Wild fucking dogs. Salivating... That's living. Fuck Twitter.
What did I say, dammit?
It should also be noted that when I'm weighing the benefits of the game live vs. at home I can't help but think of the fact that for me that requires at least a 4 hour drive in either direction, hotel reservations, etc. It's a pain in the ass.
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 03:29:15 PM
It should also be noted that when I'm weighing the benefits of the game live vs. at home I can't help but think of the fact that for me that requires at least a 4 hour drive in either direction, hotel reservations, etc. It's a pain in the ass.
I used to do the same thing for four years before I moved up here. Of course DadPex was paying so... yeah, I get it. It's expensive. But at this point it's part of the reason I work so damn hard in the first place. So many things I can't do anymore because I have to be a responsible adult - blah blah blah... The flipside though is Bears.
I know you would prefer a live game if you could get it at a reasonable price. I sounded off the way I did in a preemptive strike at the ninnies who claim their crappy tv experience is better than actually getting out and hanging with live human beings.
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2014, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 03:29:15 PM
It should also be noted that when I'm weighing the benefits of the game live vs. at home I can't help but think of the fact that for me that requires at least a 4 hour drive in either direction, hotel reservations, etc. It's a pain in the ass.
I used to do the same thing for four years before I moved up here. Of course DadPex was paying so... yeah, I get it. It's expensive. But at this point it's part of the reason I work so damn hard in the first place. So many things I can't do anymore because I have to be a responsible adult - blah blah blah... The flipside though is Bears.
I know you would prefer a live game if you could get it at a reasonable price. I sounded off the way I did in a preemptive strike at the ninnies who claim their crappy tv experience is better than actually getting out and hanging with live human beings.
Also jaded by the Bears going 0-4 in games I have attended in person. While the first loss gave me a lifelong bond with Smilin' Hank Burris, the three subsequent games have involved watching Pete Carroll's boys murder Johnny Knox, seeing Adrian Peterson rip off 154 yards to dash the 2012 team's playoff hopes, then watching Marc Trestman opt for a missed field goal on second down after seeing Matt fucking Cassel of all people convert a 4th and 11 from his own end zone on a game tying drive. It wears on one.
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 03:43:50 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2014, 03:35:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2014, 03:29:15 PM
It should also be noted that when I'm weighing the benefits of the game live vs. at home I can't help but think of the fact that for me that requires at least a 4 hour drive in either direction, hotel reservations, etc. It's a pain in the ass.
I used to do the same thing for four years before I moved up here. Of course DadPex was paying so... yeah, I get it. It's expensive. But at this point it's part of the reason I work so damn hard in the first place. So many things I can't do anymore because I have to be a responsible adult - blah blah blah... The flipside though is Bears.
I know you would prefer a live game if you could get it at a reasonable price. I sounded off the way I did in a preemptive strike at the ninnies who claim their crappy tv experience is better than actually getting out and hanging with live human beings.
Also jaded by the Bears going 0-4 in games I have attended in person. While the first loss gave me a lifelong bond with Smilin' Hank Burris, the three subsequent games have involved watching Pete Carroll's boys murder Johnny Knox, seeing Adrian Peterson rip off 154 yards to dash the 2012 team's playoff hopes, then watching Marc Trestman opt for a missed field goal on second down after seeing Matt fucking Cassel of all people convert a 4th and 11 from his own end zone on a game tying drive. It wears on one.
That's understandable, I guess. But what's really important now is this:
Soccer thread = Pan Am Flight 103.
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2014, 03:46:46 PM
But what's really important now is this:
Soccer thread = Pan Am Flight 103.
(http://i.imgur.com/nfX0NAg.jpg)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 28, 2014, 04:20:28 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2014, 03:46:46 PM
But what's really important now is this:
Soccer thread = Pan Am Flight 103.
(http://i.imgur.com/nfX0NAg.jpg)
He said Pan Am 103, not Air Force One.
How Jurgen Klinsmann Plans to Make U.S. Soccer Better (and Less American) (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/magazine/how-jurgen-klinsmann-plans-to-make-us-soccer-better-and-less-american.html):
QuoteTo Klinsmann, the idea that Donovan deserved a place on the team represented much that is wrong with American sports. He has never understood the American coaching custom of deferring to a team's stars.
"This always happens in America," Klinsmann told me, waving his hands in the air. "Kobe Bryant, for example — why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 04, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
How Jurgen Klinsmann Plans to Make U.S. Soccer Better (and Less American) (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/magazine/how-jurgen-klinsmann-plans-to-make-us-soccer-better-and-less-american.html):
QuoteTo Klinsmann, the idea that Donovan deserved a place on the team represented much that is wrong with American sports. He has never understood the American coaching custom of deferring to a team's stars.
"This always happens in America," Klinsmann told me, waving his hands in the air. "Kobe Bryant, for example — why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
What a tool. RESPECT AMERICA, FOREIGNER
Quote from: Yeti on June 04, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 04, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
How Jurgen Klinsmann Plans to Make U.S. Soccer Better (and Less American) (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/magazine/how-jurgen-klinsmann-plans-to-make-us-soccer-better-and-less-american.html):
QuoteTo Klinsmann, the idea that Donovan deserved a place on the team represented much that is wrong with American sports. He has never understood the American coaching custom of deferring to a team's stars.
"This always happens in America," Klinsmann told me, waving his hands in the air. "Kobe Bryant, for example — why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
What a tool. RESPECT AMERICA, FOREIGNER
Theourgen Klinsstink is terrible. (http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/18046/a-windy-city-introduction)
QuoteEpstein also made it plain that he'll be assembling a roster with an awareness of players' career arcs, especially when it comes to signing free agents.
"The key is to pay for future performance, not past performance," Epstein said.
Quote from: Brownie on June 04, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 04, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 04, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
How Jurgen Klinsmann Plans to Make U.S. Soccer Better (and Less American) (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/magazine/how-jurgen-klinsmann-plans-to-make-us-soccer-better-and-less-american.html):
QuoteTo Klinsmann, the idea that Donovan deserved a place on the team represented much that is wrong with American sports. He has never understood the American coaching custom of deferring to a team's stars.
"This always happens in America," Klinsmann told me, waving his hands in the air. "Kobe Bryant, for example — why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
What a tool. RESPECT AMERICA, FOREIGNER
Theourgen Klinsstink is terrible. (http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/18046/a-windy-city-introduction)
QuoteEpstein also made it plain that he'll be assembling a roster with an awareness of players' career arcs, especially when it comes to signing free agents.
"The key is to pay for future performance, not past performance," Epstein said.
Also, sex. (http://screamer.deadspin.com/jurgen-klinsmann-says-u-s-players-can-have-world-cup-s-1586164820/+barryap?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
Quote from: PenFoe on June 04, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 04, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 04, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 04, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
How Jurgen Klinsmann Plans to Make U.S. Soccer Better (and Less American) (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/magazine/how-jurgen-klinsmann-plans-to-make-us-soccer-better-and-less-american.html):
QuoteTo Klinsmann, the idea that Donovan deserved a place on the team represented much that is wrong with American sports. He has never understood the American coaching custom of deferring to a team's stars.
"This always happens in America," Klinsmann told me, waving his hands in the air. "Kobe Bryant, for example — why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
What a tool. RESPECT AMERICA, FOREIGNER
Theourgen Klinsstink is terrible. (http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/18046/a-windy-city-introduction)
QuoteEpstein also made it plain that he'll be assembling a roster with an awareness of players' career arcs, especially when it comes to signing free agents.
"The key is to pay for future performance, not past performance," Epstein said.
Also, sex. (http://screamer.deadspin.com/jurgen-klinsmann-says-u-s-players-can-have-world-cup-s-1586164820/+barryap?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
QuoteWe are very casual in the way we approach things.
This flies in the face of everything I thought I knew about German sexual attitudes.
(http://i.imgur.com/cFIRAK1.jpg)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 04, 2014, 04:37:56 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 04, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 04, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 04, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 04, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
How Jurgen Klinsmann Plans to Make U.S. Soccer Better (and Less American) (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/magazine/how-jurgen-klinsmann-plans-to-make-us-soccer-better-and-less-american.html):
QuoteTo Klinsmann, the idea that Donovan deserved a place on the team represented much that is wrong with American sports. He has never understood the American coaching custom of deferring to a team's stars.
"This always happens in America," Klinsmann told me, waving his hands in the air. "Kobe Bryant, for example — why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
What a tool. RESPECT AMERICA, FOREIGNER
Theourgen Klinsstink is terrible. (http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/18046/a-windy-city-introduction)
QuoteEpstein also made it plain that he'll be assembling a roster with an awareness of players' career arcs, especially when it comes to signing free agents.
"The key is to pay for future performance, not past performance," Epstein said.
Also, sex. (http://screamer.deadspin.com/jurgen-klinsmann-says-u-s-players-can-have-world-cup-s-1586164820/+barryap?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
QuoteWe are very casual in the way we approach things.
This flies in the face of everything I thought I knew about German sexual attitudes.
(http://i.imgur.com/cFIRAK1.jpg)
Uschi forever
On the rising profile of soccer in the US. (http://8by8mag.com/americas-football-factory-and-the-pint-size-rebellion/)
On the rising profile of the Jacksonville Jaguars in the UK. (http://espn.go.com/blog/jacksonville-jaguars/post/_/id/6161/jags-popularity-surges-in-uk-london-beneficial)
Quote from: Slaky on June 05, 2014, 07:23:38 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 04, 2014, 04:37:56 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 04, 2014, 03:54:07 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 04, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 04, 2014, 01:51:45 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 04, 2014, 01:28:03 PM
How Jurgen Klinsmann Plans to Make U.S. Soccer Better (and Less American) (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/08/magazine/how-jurgen-klinsmann-plans-to-make-us-soccer-better-and-less-american.html):
QuoteTo Klinsmann, the idea that Donovan deserved a place on the team represented much that is wrong with American sports. He has never understood the American coaching custom of deferring to a team's stars.
"This always happens in America," Klinsmann told me, waving his hands in the air. "Kobe Bryant, for example — why does he get a two-year contract extension for $50 million? Because of what he is going to do in the next two years for the Lakers? Of course not. Of course not. He gets it because of what he has done before. It makes no sense. Why do you pay for what has already happened?"
What a tool. RESPECT AMERICA, FOREIGNER
Theourgen Klinsstink is terrible. (http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/18046/a-windy-city-introduction)
QuoteEpstein also made it plain that he'll be assembling a roster with an awareness of players' career arcs, especially when it comes to signing free agents.
"The key is to pay for future performance, not past performance," Epstein said.
Also, sex. (http://screamer.deadspin.com/jurgen-klinsmann-says-u-s-players-can-have-world-cup-s-1586164820/+barryap?utm_campaign=socialflow_deadspin_facebook&utm_source=deadspin_facebook&utm_medium=socialflow)
QuoteWe are very casual in the way we approach things.
This flies in the face of everything I thought I knew about German sexual attitudes.
(http://i.imgur.com/cFIRAK1.jpg)
Uschi forever
Or at least as long as Dailymotion is around.
Soccer fans- should I be outraged that Klansmen or whatever said the US can't expect to win? I mean I don't expect them to win, but, like, DATS WHY DEY PLAY DA GAMES and all that, no?
Quote from: SKO on June 12, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
Soccer fans- should I be outraged that Klansmen or whatever said the US can't expect to win? I mean I don't expect them to win, but, like, DATS WHY DEY PLAY DA GAMES and all that, no?
You should probably be outraged at him for everything. You know he's not even
American? What's the deal with that?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 12, 2014, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 12, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
Soccer fans- should I be outraged that Klansmen or whatever said the US can't expect to win? I mean I don't expect them to win, but, like, DATS WHY DEY PLAY DA GAMES and all that, no?
You should probably be outraged at him for everything. You know he's not even American? What's the deal with that?
I heard he's in the Taliban
Quote from: Slaky on June 12, 2014, 12:48:35 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 12, 2014, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 12, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
Soccer fans- should I be outraged that Klansmen or whatever said the US can't expect to win? I mean I don't expect them to win, but, like, DATS WHY DEY PLAY DA GAMES and all that, no?
You should probably be outraged at him for everything. You know he's not even American? What's the deal with that?
I heard he's in the Taliban
So, who can we trait him for?
Quote from: Yeti on June 12, 2014, 01:28:13 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 12, 2014, 12:48:35 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 12, 2014, 12:38:45 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 12, 2014, 11:31:42 AM
Soccer fans- should I be outraged that Klansmen or whatever said the US can't expect to win? I mean I don't expect them to win, but, like, DATS WHY DEY PLAY DA GAMES and all that, no?
You should probably be outraged at him for everything. You know he's not even American? What's the deal with that?
I heard he's in the Taliban
So, who can we trait him for?
(http://l3.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/HGqAyfrmLJXjgDzahmCGTg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYwMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/person/Ysports/darwin-barney-baseball-headshot-photo.jpg)
I'm an idiot. This tournament is awesome.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 14, 2014, 09:47:21 PM
I'm an idiot. This tournament is awesome.
THI. I defy anybody to watch the Holland - Spain game and not cottage cheese their undercrackers.
Also, Arjen Robben is the very, very best mate of a friend of mine. I wish I were him.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 14, 2014, 09:47:21 PM
I'm an idiot. This tournament is awesome.
It's a fucking blast.
I've snuck in every minute I can while at work.
When I get home we've got games DVR'd.
Watched my daughter play 90 minutes this morning (on Father's Day hell yeah).
Now I'm gonna empty a few Lagunitas, grill burgers and watch Messi destroy some Herzegovinians.
I can't get enough of this.
I watched most of England-Italy, Japan-Ivory Coast, and France-Honduras and thought "this is less stupid and boring than usual" and sure enough there were numbers and stuff saying this was the highest scoring world cup since 1958 so far.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 14, 2014, 09:47:21 PM
I'm an idiot. This tournament is awesome.
What eventually got me into the sport despite being that dude in high school who hated soccer the most was the passion of everyone involved.
Once you see all that going on it's hard not to climb aboard.
This whole thing so far has been incredible.
Tomorrow, well that's a different story.
Quote from: SKO on June 15, 2014, 08:05:44 PM
I watched most of England-Italy, Japan-Ivory Coast, and France-Honduras and thought "this is less stupid and boring than usual" and sure enough there were numbers and stuff saying this was the highest scoring world cup since 1958 so far.
The ending of Switzerland–Ecuador today was fun.
Germany vs Portugal this evening should be a cracker.
I was always interested in the fans' behavio(u)r but that wasn't enough to draw me in. What finally did it for me was the skill of the players. I don't really understand the sport - I only played a couple years as a kid - but when I see them move the ball around in ways that defy gravity and physics I begin to understand the allure. The intensity of the championship and the fact that these guys are playing for their countries is beyond fascinating.
(http://shellen.com/gallery/rainierwolfcastle-aka-mcbain.gif)
Quote from: InternetApex on June 14, 2014, 09:47:21 PM
I'm an idiot. This tournament is awesome.
I still find it terrible. But I'm American, so I can be excused.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 16, 2014, 08:20:01 AM
I was always interested in the fans' behavio(u)r but that wasn't enough to draw me in. What finally did it for me was the skill of the players. I don't really understand the sport - I only played a couple years as a kid - but when I see them move the ball around in ways that defy gravity and physics I begin to understand the allure. The intensity of the championship and the fact that these guys are playing for their countries is beyond fascinating.
It's a funny thing. Although you Americans are naturally very patriotic, turning out for your country seems to play a much less important role in the life of your professional team-sports players - I guess because opportunities are few and far between (if they exist at all), or happen during the professional season. For many football (or rugby, or cricket, or...) players, representing their country at the World Cup is the pinnacle of their careers.
Quote from: Tonker on June 16, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 16, 2014, 08:20:01 AM
I was always interested in the fans' behavio(u)r but that wasn't enough to draw me in. What finally did it for me was the skill of the players. I don't really understand the sport - I only played a couple years as a kid - but when I see them move the ball around in ways that defy gravity and physics I begin to understand the allure. The intensity of the championship and the fact that these guys are playing for their countries is beyond fascinating.
It's a funny thing. Although you Americans are naturally very patriotic, turning out for your country seems to play a much less important role in the life of your professional team-sports players - I guess because opportunities are few and far between (if they exist at all), or happen during the professional season. For many football (or rugby, or cricket, or...) players, representing their country at the World Cup is the pinnacle of their careers.
Aside from hockey, there is really no other tangible World Championship...The World Baseball Classic is kind of a snooze, Olympic basketball is whoever can be arsed to give up their summer off, and there aren't even enough decent non-American football players to field a team that could beat a decent Division III team.
Quote from: Tonker on June 16, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 16, 2014, 08:20:01 AM
I was always interested in the fans' behavio(u)r but that wasn't enough to draw me in. What finally did it for me was the skill of the players. I don't really understand the sport - I only played a couple years as a kid - but when I see them move the ball around in ways that defy gravity and physics I begin to understand the allure. The intensity of the championship and the fact that these guys are playing for their countries is beyond fascinating.
It's a funny thing. Although you Americans are naturally very patriotic, turning out for your country seems to play a much less important role in the life of your professional team-sports players - I guess because opportunities are few and far between (if they exist at all), or happen during the professional season. For many football (or rugby, or cricket, or...) players, representing their country at the World Cup is the pinnacle of their careers.
America is very big geographically and because of that it is has a history of regionalism that influences our sporting interests more than anything. It would have been very hard for us to develop international sporting rivalries in the 19th century because of the distances involved, but we sure as hell could develop north vs. south, Texas vs. Oklahoma, etc. That's why there's so much emphasis on college sports rivalries, which are still the oldest and most powerful rivalries in American sports, in my opinion.
Then you add that our two most popular sports historically (baseball) and currently (football, by a wide margin) have never really taken off internationally and yeah, it's hard for us to muster the kind of hate we're capable of bringing towards each other to the international stage. It's a shame really, because I'd love to have the world see that we can hate with the best of them. We have a deep, rich tradition of hate. We had a Civil War one time that is probably better than anything your people have ever done.
Quote from: Fork on June 16, 2014, 08:56:45 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 16, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 16, 2014, 08:20:01 AM
I was always interested in the fans' behavio(u)r but that wasn't enough to draw me in. What finally did it for me was the skill of the players. I don't really understand the sport - I only played a couple years as a kid - but when I see them move the ball around in ways that defy gravity and physics I begin to understand the allure. The intensity of the championship and the fact that these guys are playing for their countries is beyond fascinating.
It's a funny thing. Although you Americans are naturally very patriotic, turning out for your country seems to play a much less important role in the life of your professional team-sports players - I guess because opportunities are few and far between (if they exist at all), or happen during the professional season. For many football (or rugby, or cricket, or...) players, representing their country at the World Cup is the pinnacle of their careers.
Aside from hockey, there is really no other tangible World Championship...The World Baseball Classic is kind of a snooze, Olympic basketball is whoever can be arsed to give up their summer off, and there aren't even enough decent non-American football players to field a team that could beat a decent Division III team.
I think there's an attitude that if the rest of the world is any good at any sport we care about they should head to the US and prove it. Why should we take the game to them? Hockey isn't really our sport, but we're in that sport.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 16, 2014, 09:03:16 AM
I think there's an attitude that if the rest of the world is any good at any sport we care about they should head to the US and prove it. Why should we take the game to them? Hockey isn't really our sport, but we're in that sport.
USA Hockey medals enough in world-class competition (World Junior, Olympics, etc) to where we're actually a force.
Of course, the fact that hockey's "World Championship" happens at the exact same time as the Stanley Cup Playoffs, ensuring that only NHL players from shitty teams play, doesn't help. They've tried doing a World Cup a couple times. It might pick up more traction if the NHL balks at shutting down for 2 weeks in 2018 for the Olympics again.
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2014, 09:00:30 AM
Then you add that our two most popular sports historically (baseball) and currently (football, by a wide margin) have never really taken off internationally...
Football, yeah.
Baseball, only if by "internationally" you mean "in Europe". Which, to be fair, is probably all that would matter to most Americans, particularly back in its heyday as the National Pastime.
And, in any case, MLB still utterly dominates the sport on the international stage to an extent that I don't think any one club soccer league does.
Quote from: Fork on June 16, 2014, 09:47:32 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 16, 2014, 09:03:16 AM
I think there's an attitude that if the rest of the world is any good at any sport we care about they should head to the US and prove it. Why should we take the game to them? Hockey isn't really our sport, but we're in that sport.
USA Hockey medals enough in world-class competition (World Junior, Olympics, etc) to where we're actually a force.
Of course, the fact that hockey's "World Championship" happens at the exact same time as the Stanley Cup Playoffs, ensuring that only NHL players from shitty teams play, doesn't help. They've tried doing a World Cup a couple times. It might pick up more traction if the NHL balks at shutting down for 2 weeks in 2018 for the Olympics again.
And we basically
own the IIHF U18s. Which, you know, tend to coincide with the CHL playoffs, so the Canadians don't generally field anything resembling their best squadron, but whatever. ISA all the way!
I've done some historical research at the request of a friend who wanted a historically appropriate way to taunt Ghana and I would suggest for all of you that "we have the stool" would seem to work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Stool
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2014, 10:08:31 AM
I've done some historical research at the request of a friend who wanted a historically appropriate way to taunt Ghana and I would suggest for all of you that "we have the stool" would seem to work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Stool
"We have indoor plumbing" might also work.
Quote from: Fork on June 16, 2014, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2014, 10:08:31 AM
I've done some historical research at the request of a friend who wanted a historically appropriate way to taunt Ghana and I would suggest for all of you that "we have the stool" would seem to work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Stool
"We have indoor plumbing" might also work.
Why go so pedestrian when you can mock something sacred to many of their people And bring up the worst excesses of colonialism? You think too small.
Quote from: Fork on June 16, 2014, 10:14:16 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2014, 10:08:31 AM
I've done some historical research at the request of a friend who wanted a historically appropriate way to taunt Ghana and I would suggest for all of you that "we have the stool" would seem to work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Stool
"We have indoor plumbing" might also work.
Intrepid Reader: IAN"The Taliban called..."
Quote from: InternetApex on June 16, 2014, 08:20:01 AM
I was always interested in the fans' behavio(u)r but that wasn't enough to draw me in. What finally did it for me was the skill of the players. I don't really understand the sport - I only played a couple years as a kid - but when I see them move the ball around in ways that defy gravity and physics I begin to understand the allure. The intensity of the championship and the fact that these guys are playing for their countries is beyond fascinating.
All of that works.
I will never, ever get tired of watching Cristiano Ronaldo eat a huge shit sandwich.
Holy crap.
I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A! I-S-A!
Set pieces.
That's why you practice them thousands of times.
Fucking Glorious.
Question. Long time mocker, first time watcher:
The greenhorn that got the red card against the Huns, he's suspended for the next game. Does this mean the team has to play a man down like they did for the rest of the game where he got the red card, or just they he is forbidden from playing in the next game and while their roster is depleted they can still field 11?
I'll hang up and wait for the answer.
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2014, 08:43:56 PM
The greenhorn that got the red card against the Huns, he's suspended for the next game. Does this mean the team has to play a man down like they did for the rest of the game where he got the red card, or just they he is forbidden from playing in the next game and while their roster is depleted they can still field 11?
The latter. It's like a suspension in any other sport.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 16, 2014, 09:02:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2014, 08:43:56 PM
The greenhorn that got the red card against the Huns, he's suspended for the next game. Does this mean the team has to play a man down like they did for the rest of the game where he got the red card, or just they he is forbidden from playing in the next game and while their roster is depleted they can still field 11?
The latter. It's like a suspension in any other sport.
And Pepe is a fucking idiot.
Quote from: flannj on June 16, 2014, 09:39:41 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 16, 2014, 09:02:54 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2014, 08:43:56 PM
The greenhorn that got the red card against the Huns, he's suspended for the next game. Does this mean the team has to play a man down like they did for the rest of the game where he got the red card, or just they he is forbidden from playing in the next game and while their roster is depleted they can still field 11?
The latter. It's like a suspension in any other sport.
And Pepe is a fucking idiot.
God bless him.
I tuned into Foot Fairy Madness Facepalm Logo 2014 just as Ghana (the black dudes) scored the tying run...touchdown...basket? Whatever. Then like five minutes later The Marines scored and saved our country from humiliation.
I don't understand it, I don't even like it, but what I do like is the thrill of the country vs. country pride in competition. So that's cool.
I was more pumped that Travis Wood had the game winning RBI in last night's extra inning game in Miami, truth be told.
Quote from: Tonker on June 16, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
I will never, ever get tired of watching Cristiano Ronaldo eat a huge shit sandwich.
Then this (http://mashable.com/2014/06/16/cristiano-ronaldo-world-cup-gifs/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link) is for you.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 17, 2014, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 16, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
I will never, ever get tired of watching Cristiano Ronaldo eat a huge shit sandwich.
Then this (http://mashable.com/2014/06/16/cristiano-ronaldo-world-cup-gifs/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link) is for you.
I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. Fucking prick.
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2014, 01:37:02 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 17, 2014, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 16, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
I will never, ever get tired of watching Cristiano Ronaldo eat a huge shit sandwich.
Then this (http://mashable.com/2014/06/16/cristiano-ronaldo-world-cup-gifs/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link) is for you.
I laughed, and laughed, and laughed. Fucking prick.
Up early in Australia? TIME TO POTS
DRLP? http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2014/06/12/quiz-time-57/#comment-491609
QuoteOJ Simpsons wife and lover were killed the saturday immediately proceeding the opening of the (soccer) World Cup in the USA because gridion players and baseball players had been on strike for a year and there was a real chance these homegrown games would suffer permanent value impairment if soccer had been given clean airtime so despite the fact the victims had 50 plus defensive wound apiece in what was given the injuries sustained obviously a desperate struggle and Simpson had a simple working man nick on one finger the black guy was chased on TV and dramatically charged and the entire process managed to maximise the blackout of what was supposed to be soccers coming of age in the US of A
So OJ was framed by the NFL and MLB, just so soccer wouldn't become more popular than those sports in the US.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 17, 2014, 10:49:13 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 16, 2014, 01:03:14 PM
I will never, ever get tired of watching Cristiano Ronaldo eat a huge shit sandwich.
Then this (http://mashable.com/2014/06/16/cristiano-ronaldo-world-cup-gifs/?utm_cid=mash-com-fb-main-link) is for you.
So in my constant effort to equate soccer to hockey, I found my Sidney Crosby.
Quote from: morpheus on June 18, 2014, 09:03:03 AM
DRLP? http://www.ellistabletalk.com/2014/06/12/quiz-time-57/#comment-491609
QuoteOJ Simpsons wife and lover were killed the saturday immediately proceeding the opening of the (soccer) World Cup in the USA because gridion players and baseball players had been on strike for a year and there was a real chance these homegrown games would suffer permanent value impairment if soccer had been given clean airtime so despite the fact the victims had 50 plus defensive wound apiece in what was given the injuries sustained obviously a desperate struggle and Simpson had a simple working man nick on one finger the black guy was chased on TV and dramatically charged and the entire process managed to maximise the blackout of what was supposed to be soccers coming of age in the US of A
So OJ was framed by the NFL and MLB, just so soccer wouldn't become more popular than those sports in the US.
"Do you want to know the terrifying truth? Or do you want to see me sock a few dingers?"
(http://i.imgur.com/CaQmNLJ.gif)
WOW.
Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
WOW.
Well, yes - wow - but the writing was on the wall after that humping by Holland last week. They went the same way as Italy in 2010 and France in 2002: caught in the past and unable to look to the future. They were the victims of poor team selection, poor tactics and zero energy, and they looked beaten from the moment they stepped on to the pitch. Adios amigos, don't let the
puerta hit you on the way out.
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2014, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
WOW.
Well, yes - wow - but the writing was on the wall after that humping by Holland last week. They went the same way as Italy in 2010 and France in 2002: caught in the past and unable to look to the future. They were the victims of poor team selection, poor tactics and zero energy, and they looked beaten from the moment they stepped on to the pitch. Adios amigos, don't let the puerta hit you on the way out.
This tournament just keeps getting better. And Chile are FUN. This isn't like some kind of George Mason shit.
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2014, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
WOW.
Well, yes - wow - but the writing was on the wall after that humping by Holland last week. They went the same way as Italy in 2010 and France in 2002: caught in the past and unable to look to the future. They were the victims of poor team selection, poor tactics and zero energy, and they looked beaten from the moment they stepped on to the pitch. Adios amigos, don't let the puerta hit you on the way out.
This tournament just keeps getting better. And Chile are FUN. This isn't like some kind of George Mason shit.
10 of the 26 entries in the World Cup pool I'm in had Spain winning it all.
Luckily, I wasn't one of those, but total bracket upheaval for many.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 18, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2014, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
WOW.
Well, yes - wow - but the writing was on the wall after that humping by Holland last week. They went the same way as Italy in 2010 and France in 2002: caught in the past and unable to look to the future. They were the victims of poor team selection, poor tactics and zero energy, and they looked beaten from the moment they stepped on to the pitch. Adios amigos, don't let the puerta hit you on the way out.
This tournament just keeps getting better. And Chile are FUN. This isn't like some kind of George Mason shit.
10 of the 26 entries in the World Cup pool I'm in had Spain winning it all.
Luckily, I wasn't one of those, but total bracket upheaval for many.
Who do you have? The Dutch? Germans?
Cameroon sucks at kickball.
/analysis
Quote from: InternetApex on June 18, 2014, 06:59:37 PM
Cameroon sucks at kickball.
/analysis
I talked to a real live Franchman tonight. He said the US is not gonna win at footsieball.
/analysis
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 18, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2014, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
WOW.
Well, yes - wow - but the writing was on the wall after that humping by Holland last week. They went the same way as Italy in 2010 and France in 2002: caught in the past and unable to look to the future. They were the victims of poor team selection, poor tactics and zero energy, and they looked beaten from the moment they stepped on to the pitch. Adios amigos, don't let the puerta hit you on the way out.
This tournament just keeps getting better. And Chile are FUN. This isn't like some kind of George Mason shit.
10 of the 26 entries in the World Cup pool I'm in had Spain winning it all.
Luckily, I wasn't one of those, but total bracket upheaval for many.
Who do you have? The Dutch? Germans?
Argentina.
I also know next to nothing about soccer, but if there's internet picking/fantasying involved, the sport/potentially dead people are pretty much irrelevant to me and there is a 100% chance I'm participating.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 18, 2014, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 18, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2014, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
WOW.
Well, yes - wow - but the writing was on the wall after that humping by Holland last week. They went the same way as Italy in 2010 and France in 2002: caught in the past and unable to look to the future. They were the victims of poor team selection, poor tactics and zero energy, and they looked beaten from the moment they stepped on to the pitch. Adios amigos, don't let the puerta hit you on the way out.
This tournament just keeps getting better. And Chile are FUN. This isn't like some kind of George Mason shit.
10 of the 26 entries in the World Cup pool I'm in had Spain winning it all.
Luckily, I wasn't one of those, but total bracket upheaval for many.
Who do you have? The Dutch? Germans?
Argentina.
I also know next to nothing about soccer, but if there's internet picking/fantasying involved, the sport/potentially dead people are pretty much irrelevant to me and there is a 100% chance I'm participating.
No one knows anything - they just make it sound like they do.
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 18, 2014, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 18, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2014, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
WOW.
Well, yes - wow - but the writing was on the wall after that humping by Holland last week. They went the same way as Italy in 2010 and France in 2002: caught in the past and unable to look to the future. They were the victims of poor team selection, poor tactics and zero energy, and they looked beaten from the moment they stepped on to the pitch. Adios amigos, don't let the puerta hit you on the way out.
This tournament just keeps getting better. And Chile are FUN. This isn't like some kind of George Mason shit.
10 of the 26 entries in the World Cup pool I'm in had Spain winning it all.
Luckily, I wasn't one of those, but total bracket upheaval for many.
Who do you have? The Dutch? Germans?
Argentina.
I also know next to nothing about soccer, but if there's internet picking/fantasying involved, the sport/potentially dead people are pretty much irrelevant to me and there is a 100% chance I'm participating.
No one knows anything - they just make it sound like they do.
By affecting some ridiculous accent, I gather.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 19, 2014, 08:54:10 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 19, 2014, 08:43:57 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 18, 2014, 10:53:30 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 18, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 18, 2014, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2014, 04:04:03 PM
Quote from: flannj on June 18, 2014, 03:55:20 PM
WOW.
Well, yes - wow - but the writing was on the wall after that humping by Holland last week. They went the same way as Italy in 2010 and France in 2002: caught in the past and unable to look to the future. They were the victims of poor team selection, poor tactics and zero energy, and they looked beaten from the moment they stepped on to the pitch. Adios amigos, don't let the puerta hit you on the way out.
This tournament just keeps getting better. And Chile are FUN. This isn't like some kind of George Mason shit.
10 of the 26 entries in the World Cup pool I'm in had Spain winning it all.
Luckily, I wasn't one of those, but total bracket upheaval for many.
Who do you have? The Dutch? Germans?
Argentina.
I also know next to nothing about soccer, but if there's internet picking/fantasying involved, the sport/potentially dead people are pretty much irrelevant to me and there is a 100% chance I'm participating.
No one knows anything - they just make it sound like they do.
By affecting some ridiculous accent, I gather.
Using words like 'pitch' and 'match' and 'fixture' no less
Klinnstink is terrible
Quote from: Yeti on June 22, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
Klinnstink is terrible
That was a pretty incredible thing to watch. It seemed like the US played 90 straight really great minutes of footsie. It just happened that those 90 minutes were bookended by two mistakes -- both of which were taken advantage of by Portugal.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2014, 08:57:05 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 22, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
Klinnstink is terrible
That was a pretty incredible thing to watch. It seemed like the US played 90 straight really great minutes of footsie. It just happened that those 90 minutes were bookended by two mistakes -- both of which were taken advantage of by Portugal.
Setting up gut wrenching hell on Thursday. I can't wait to blow off the middle of work.
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2014, 08:57:05 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 22, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
Klinnstink is terrible
That was a pretty incredible thing to watch. It seemed like the US played 90 straight really great minutes of footsie. It just happened that those 90 minutes were bookended by two mistakes -- both of which were taken advantage of by Portugal.
Setting up gut wrenching hell on Thursday. I can't wait to blow off the middle of work.
Thank God for two-monitor setups...
(http://i.imgur.com/anSJ1Y1.jpg)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 22, 2014, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2014, 08:57:05 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 22, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
Klinnstink is terrible
That was a pretty incredible thing to watch. It seemed like the US played 90 straight really great minutes of footsie. It just happened that those 90 minutes were bookended by two mistakes -- both of which were taken advantage of by Portugal.
Setting up gut wrenching hell on Thursday. I can't wait to blow off the middle of work.
Thank God for two-monitor setups...
(http://i.imgur.com/anSJ1Y1.jpg)
The reflection really tied PenFoe's office together.
I thoroughly enjoyed that faggy grass hockey game yesterday. Even though it ended in a faggy fag tie.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that faggy grass hockey game yesterday. Even though it ended in a faggy fag tie.
Everything bad is faggy. Especially the Taliban.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 23, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that faggy grass hockey game yesterday. Even though it ended in a faggy fag tie.
Everything bad is faggy. Especially the Taliban.
It's hard to disagree with logic.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2014, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 22, 2014, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 22, 2014, 09:20:01 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 22, 2014, 08:57:05 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 22, 2014, 06:56:12 PM
Klinnstink is terrible
That was a pretty incredible thing to watch. It seemed like the US played 90 straight really great minutes of footsie. It just happened that those 90 minutes were bookended by two mistakes -- both of which were taken advantage of by Portugal.
Setting up gut wrenching hell on Thursday. I can't wait to blow off the middle of work.
Thank God for two-monitor setups...
(http://i.imgur.com/anSJ1Y1.jpg)
The reflection really tied PenFoe's office together.
Man, that was when I still drink Diet Soda and before my "second monitor" (aka laptop) was raised 10 inches.
It's like the stone age in there.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 23, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that faggy grass hockey game yesterday. Even though it ended in a faggy fag tie.
Everything bad is faggy. Especially the Taliban.
It's hard to disagree with logic.
I assume you're trying to be ironic (or something) about being an ignorant southern bumpkin, but you can probably go ahead and put the gay-as-insult thing on the shelf for a while. Or forever.
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 23, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that faggy grass hockey game yesterday. Even though it ended in a faggy fag tie.
Everything bad is faggy. Especially the Taliban.
It's hard to disagree with logic.
I assume you're trying to be ironic (or something) about being an ignorant southern bumpkin, but you can probably go ahead and put the gay-as-insult thing on the shelf for a while. Or forever.
Well, that's just retarded.
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 23, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that faggy grass hockey game yesterday. Even though it ended in a faggy fag tie.
Everything bad is faggy. Especially the Taliban.
It's hard to disagree with logic.
I assume you're trying to be ironic (or something) about being an ignorant southern bumpkin, but you can probably go ahead and put the gay-as-insult thing on the shelf for a while. Or forever.
It was tongue in cheek 100%. But thanks for playing the stereotype of butthurt soccer fairy taint licker to a tee for me.
Anyway...
Good SPORTZ yesterday.
Well I sure didn't think this thread would make it to double digits before it got ruined but hey good job everyone. We'll try this again in four years.
Quote from: SKO on June 23, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
Well I sure didn't think this thread would make it to double digits before it got ruined but hey good job everyone. We'll try this again in four years.
Hopefully Freddy Adu will be ready for the big time by then.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 11:49:18 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 23, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that faggy grass hockey game yesterday. Even though it ended in a faggy fag tie.
Everything bad is faggy. Especially the Taliban.
It's hard to disagree with logic.
I assume you're trying to be ironic (or something) about being an ignorant southern bumpkin, but you can probably go ahead and put the gay-as-insult thing on the shelf for a while. Or forever.
It was tongue in cheek 100%. But thanks for playing the stereotype of butthurt soccer fairy taint licker to a tee for me.
I know it's tongue in cheek. But it's not like you're not being clever or subversive in just straight-up using the insult. You're just calling something faggy.
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2014, 12:46:59 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 11:49:18 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2014, 11:32:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 10:12:12 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 23, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 08:34:02 AM
I thoroughly enjoyed that faggy grass hockey game yesterday. Even though it ended in a faggy fag tie.
Everything bad is faggy. Especially the Taliban.
It's hard to disagree with logic.
I assume you're trying to be ironic (or something) about being an ignorant southern bumpkin, but you can probably go ahead and put the gay-as-insult thing on the shelf for a while. Or forever.
It was tongue in cheek 100%. But thanks for playing the stereotype of butthurt soccer fairy taint licker to a tee for me.
I know it's tongue in cheek. But it's not like you're not being clever or subversive in just straight-up using the insult. You're just calling something faggy.
Isn't faggy for the sake of being faggy the only way to go, though?
Quote from: SKO on June 23, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
Well I sure didn't think this thread would make it to double digits before it got ruined but hey good job everyone. We'll try this again in four years.
Ruined? How could it be ruined by a slur against homosexuals when the title says "...SOCCER IS GHEY..."
Quote from: CBStew on June 23, 2014, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 23, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
Well I sure didn't think this thread would make it to double digits before it got ruined but hey good job everyone. We'll try this again in four years.
Ruined? How could it be ruined by a slur against homosexuals when the title says "...SOCCER IS GHEY..."
Sigh. Because "ghey" is the mocking term used to mock those who use "gay" as a pejorative. It's like Internet Meta-Humor 101.
Quote from: SKO on June 23, 2014, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 23, 2014, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 23, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
Well I sure didn't think this thread would make it to double digits before it got ruined but hey good job everyone. We'll try this again in four years.
Ruined? How could it be ruined by a slur against homosexuals when the title says "...SOCCER IS GHEY..."
Sigh. Because "ghey" is the mocking term used to mock those who use "gay" as a pejorative. It's like Internet Meta-Humor 101.
I think this got out of hand. I certainly don't think soccer is gay. Or ghey. Or faggy. So, I used faggy in a thread that mocks mockers of soccer that call it gay. I thought maybe I was in bounds there. Oh well, better luck never.
Good try everyone.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 23, 2014, 02:01:11 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 23, 2014, 01:56:15 PM
Quote from: CBStew on June 23, 2014, 01:54:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 23, 2014, 11:53:53 AM
Well I sure didn't think this thread would make it to double digits before it got ruined but hey good job everyone. We'll try this again in four years.
Ruined? How could it be ruined by a slur against homosexuals when the title says "...SOCCER IS GHEY..."
Sigh. Because "ghey" is the mocking term used to mock those who use "gay" as a pejorative. It's like Internet Meta-Humor 101.
I think this got out of hand. I certainly don't think soccer is gay. Or ghey. Or faggy. So, I used faggy in a thread that mocks mockers of soccer that call it gay. I thought maybe I was in bounds there. Oh well, better luck never.
So you're in a Probationary T-Dubbs situation over the Taliban thing until such time as we decide you're not a racist prick. I can't say for sure how long that will take.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-RwoOowQm8l0/Tahgmz0rjCI/AAAAAAAAAGc/2Swm_nCDgwM/s320/Treebeard.jpg)
Til then, you can tread lightly on the slurs. Or not. Your call.
I honestly don't care that much. I was just saying that maybe there are funnier ways to say funny things. But yes, it probably went down the wrong track and I could have been more clear.
You fucking homo.
Quote from: Fork on June 23, 2014, 02:23:15 PM
You fucking homo.
Do you have an extra onion that I can borrow?
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2014, 02:11:15 PM
I honestly don't care that much. I was just saying that maybe there are funnier ways to say funny things. But yes, it probably went down the wrong track and I could have been more clear.
I think you were plenty clear and I agree with what you said. The "calling someone gay as an insult" thing has run it's course as both an actual thing and an ironic thing. It's just weird and unfunny to toss a word like "fag" around like it's going out of style. Just stop it.
I'll sit back and wait to be given an honorary PC Police badge and apologize in advance for treading on everyone's 1st Amendment rights.
So anyway the games were fucking nuts today again. That Mexico trying to outscore Brazil thing was terrifying. As it stands the Mexicans will have to beat the Dutch and that's a tall order. That's going to be fantastic to see.
My kingdom for a US-Mexico tilt in the knockouts.
Quote from: R-V on June 23, 2014, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2014, 02:11:15 PM
I honestly don't care that much. I was just saying that maybe there are funnier ways to say funny things. But yes, it probably went down the wrong track and I could have been more clear.
I think you were plenty clear and I agree with what you said. The "calling someone gay as an insult" thing has run it's course as both an actual thing and an ironic thing. It's just weird and unfunny to toss a word like "fag" around like it's going out of style. Just stop it.
I'll sit back and wait to be given an honorary PC Police badge and apologize in advance for treading on everyone's 1st Amendment rights.
(http://i.imgur.com/XzEo5uK.jpg)
EDIT: The badge does in fact say "PC Police" on it.
You see? Soccer ruins lives, people.
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2014, 10:05:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on June 23, 2014, 04:56:36 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 23, 2014, 02:11:15 PM
I honestly don't care that much. I was just saying that maybe there are funnier ways to say funny things. But yes, it probably went down the wrong track and I could have been more clear.
I think you were plenty clear and I agree with what you said. The "calling someone gay as an insult" thing has run it's course as both an actual thing and an ironic thing. It's just weird and unfunny to toss a word like "fag" around like it's going out of style. Just stop it.
I'll sit back and wait to be given an honorary PC Police badge and apologize in advance for treading on everyone's 1st Amendment rights.
(http://i.imgur.com/XzEo5uK.jpg)
EDIT: The badge does in fact say "PC Police" on it.
Outstanding.
Not ghey, or gay, or geigh.
(http://i.imgur.com/5FBjDEq.gif)
Just a yellow card for this? I'm no soccer expert, but that looks like red card territory to me.
Full story at http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/6/24/5838316/mario-balotelli-suspended-italy
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2014, 12:15:17 PM
Not ghey, or gay, or geigh.
(http://i.imgur.com/5FBjDEq.gif)
Just a yellow card for this? I'm no soccer expert, but that looks like red card territory to me.
Full story at http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/6/24/5838316/mario-balotelli-suspended-italy
Don't worry. Another wop just got sent off on a straight red.
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2014, 12:15:17 PM
Not ghey, or gay, or geigh.
(http://i.imgur.com/5FBjDEq.gif)
Just a yellow card for this? I'm no soccer expert, but that looks like red card territory to me.
Full story at http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/6/24/5838316/mario-balotelli-suspended-italy
FAKER
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 24, 2014, 12:20:05 PM
Quote from: morpheus on June 24, 2014, 12:15:17 PM
Not ghey, or gay, or geigh.
(http://i.imgur.com/5FBjDEq.gif)
Just a yellow card for this? I'm no soccer expert, but that looks like red card territory to me.
Full story at http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2014/6/24/5838316/mario-balotelli-suspended-italy
Don't worry. Another wop just got sent off on a straight red.
I see what you did there.
And... Luis Suarez may have just bitten someone again.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 24, 2014, 12:39:18 PM
And... Luis Suarez may have just bitten someone again.
This is unbelievable.
I love this tournament so much.
In sports, you use the gifts God has given you...
(http://i.imgur.com/kCPIuQQ.jpg)
There is enough butthurt in England this evening to power the entire fucking planet. If there's one thing that Brits have, it's an over-inflated sense of fair play, and the whole Luis Suarez thing is really, REALLY pissing them off.
I'm having to bite my tongue on the Bookface right now, because I'm absolutely fucking loving it. Say what you want about him: he's magnificent entertainment.
Quote from: Tonker on June 24, 2014, 03:15:22 PM
There is enough butthurt in England this evening to power the entire fucking planet. If there's one thing that Brits have, it's an over-inflated sense of fair play, and the whole Luis Suarez thing is really, REALLY pissing them off.
I'm having to bite my tongue on the Bookface right now, because I'm absolutely fucking loving it. Say what you want about him: he's magnificent entertainment.
Can you post some highlights from the Bookfaces here?
"Disgusting behaviour again. Take his teeth out & ban him!!!"
"Disgraceful. I havr two year of olds who behave better" [sic]
"Needs to be banned for the rest of the tournament for that. He's a disgrace"
"Of course they won't punish him (few games at very most) but they should though. No morality in football."
"I think other teams should refuse to play unless Suarez is muzzled. Although I'd like to see a life ban. And I don't think that would be unreasonable."
"Hate Uruguay with a passion. Godin (who should have been sent off against England and therefore suspended today) with the winner. Suarez should get a lengthy ban for his yet again disgraceful action. Possibly best striker in the world this past season but an absolute tool of the highest order."
"Fuck off Uruguay! Fuck off Italy too!"
"Suarez is a mad dog who needs putting down..."
... and my particular favourite:
"At the begining [sic] of this World Cup, I posted that it would be won by the team that gets away with the most cheating. The maxim "cheats never prosper" that people of my age were taught, has proved to be a massive lie."
Non-Suarez-related:
"I've never understood why the FA, or the manager, etc don't insist on England playing in Red Shirts all the time. I know it sounds a bit trivial but if you look at the teams they all play for normally (such as ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal etc), such a lot of them are almost programmed to look for a red shirt to pass to then those split second decisions may just be more successful. I know they don't all play for 'red' teams but a good proportion of them do and I think it's psychological for them to look for 'red' people to pass to."
Bloody awesome.
Quote from: Tonker on June 24, 2014, 03:55:40 PM
"Disgusting behaviour again. Take his teeth out & ban him!!!"
"Disgraceful. I havr two year of olds who behave better" [sic]
"Needs to be banned for the rest of the tournament for that. He's a disgrace"
"Of course they won't punish him (few games at very most) but they should though. No morality in football."
"I think other teams should refuse to play unless Suarez is muzzled. Although I'd like to see a life ban. And I don't think that would be unreasonable."
"Hate Uruguay with a passion. Godin (who should have been sent off against England and therefore suspended today) with the winner. Suarez should get a lengthy ban for his yet again disgraceful action. Possibly best striker in the world this past season but an absolute tool of the highest order."
"Fuck off Uruguay! Fuck off Italy too!"
"Suarez is a mad dog who needs putting down..."
... and my particular favourite:
"At the begining [sic] of this World Cup, I posted that it would be won by the team that gets away with the most cheating. The maxim "cheats never prosper" that people of my age were taught, has proved to be a massive lie."
Non-Suarez-related:
"I've never understood why the FA, or the manager, etc don't insist on England playing in Red Shirts all the time. I know it sounds a bit trivial but if you look at the teams they all play for normally (such as ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal etc), such a lot of them are almost programmed to look for a red shirt to pass to then those split second decisions may just be more successful. I know they don't all play for 'red' teams but a good proportion of them do and I think it's psychological for them to look for 'red' people to pass to."
All of these people probably love Manchester United. May they rot.
Quote from: Tonker on June 24, 2014, 03:55:40 PM
"I've never understood why the FA, or the manager, etc don't insist on England playing in Red Shirts all the time. I know it sounds a bit trivial but if you look at the teams they all play for normally (such as ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal etc), such a lot of them are almost programmed to look for a red shirt to pass to then those split second decisions may just be more successful. I know they don't all play for 'red' teams but a good proportion of them do and I think it's psychological for them to look for 'red' people to pass to."
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Quote from: Tony on June 24, 2014, 05:26:01 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 24, 2014, 03:55:40 PM
"I've never understood why the FA, or the manager, etc don't insist on England playing in Red Shirts all the time. I know it sounds a bit trivial but if you look at the teams they all play for normally (such as ManU, Liverpool, Arsenal etc), such a lot of them are almost programmed to look for a red shirt to pass to then those split second decisions may just be more successful. I know they don't all play for 'red' teams but a good proportion of them do and I think it's psychological for them to look for 'red' people to pass to."
That's the dumbest thing I've ever read.
I dunno...Vinny Testaverde was color blind, and passed to the wrong guys all the time.
Quote from: Tonker on June 24, 2014, 03:55:40 PM
"Disgusting behaviour again. Take his teeth out & ban him!!!"
"Disgraceful. I havr two year of olds who behave better" [sic]
"Needs to be banned for the rest of the tournament for that. He's a disgrace"
"Of course they won't punish him (few games at very most) but they should though. No morality in football."
"I think other teams should refuse to play unless Suarez is muzzled. Although I'd like to see a life ban. And I don't think that would be unreasonable."
"Hate Uruguay with a passion. Godin (who should have been sent off against England and therefore suspended today) with the winner. Suarez should get a lengthy ban for his yet again disgraceful action. Possibly best striker in the world this past season but an absolute tool of the highest order."
"Fuck off Uruguay! Fuck off Italy too!"
"Suarez is a mad dog who needs putting down..."
... and my particular favourite:
"At the begining [sic] of this World Cup, I posted that it would be won by the team that gets away with the most cheating. The maxim "cheats never prosper" that people of my age were taught, has proved to be a massive lie."
They're not
necessarily wrong on Suarez.
But I suppose that's mostly beside the point here.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 24, 2014, 01:50:19 PM
In sports, you use the gifts God has given you...
(http://i.imgur.com/kCPIuQQ.jpg)
This is why he fits in so well on Liverpool.
ISA vs. Belgium: Death to All Tonkers
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 12:54:09 PM
ISA vs. Belgium: Death to All Tonkers
That'll be a good game, I think.
Quote from: Tonker on June 26, 2014, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 12:54:09 PM
ISA vs. Belgium: Death to All Tonkers
That'll be a good game, I think.
Didn't you say something once about the Belgians being a bunch of child molesters?
Quote from: InternetApex on June 26, 2014, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 26, 2014, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 12:54:09 PM
ISA vs. Belgium: Death to All Tonkers
That'll be a good game, I think.
Didn't you say something once about the Belgians being a bunch of child molesters?
Fucking Phlegms (http://www.rsdb.org/races#belgians)
Quote from: InternetApex on June 26, 2014, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 26, 2014, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 12:54:09 PM
ISA vs. Belgium: Death to All Tonkers
That'll be a good game, I think.
Didn't you say something once about the Belgians being a bunch of child molesters?
Just those bloody Walloons.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 26, 2014, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 26, 2014, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 12:54:09 PM
ISA vs. Belgium: Death to All Tonkers
That'll be a good game, I think.
Didn't you say something once about the Belgians being a bunch of child molesters?
They are. But that doesn't mean they can't play pretty football.
Quote from: Tonker on June 26, 2014, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 26, 2014, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 26, 2014, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 12:54:09 PM
ISA vs. Belgium: Death to All Tonkers
That'll be a good game, I think.
Didn't you say something once about the Belgians being a bunch of child molesters?
They are. But that doesn't mean they can't play pretty football.
Tonk if your government finds out you're calling your homeland a bunch of pederasts you could get in trouble.
On my internets: stupid Americans acting like a sports team somehow advancing to an elimination playoff despite losing one non-elimination game beforehand is something crazy and totally fucking novel.
Relatedly, Keith Olbermann last night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7dmOvMCmkw).
I look forward to his rant about NFL teams who rest their regulars in Week 17 this coming season.
Motivation not to win in sports is always a bad thing, regardless of whether a team has bought themselves the privilege of not having to care about winning a particular game by winning previous games.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 07:55:34 PM
On my internets: stupid Americans acting like a sports team somehow advancing to an elimination playoff despite losing one non-elimination game beforehand is something crazy and totally fucking novel.
Relatedly, Keith Olbermann last night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7dmOvMCmkw).
I look forward to his rant about NFL teams who rest their regulars in Week 17 this coming season.
Motivation not to win in sports is always a bad thing, regardless of whether a team has bought themselves the privilege of not having to care about winning a particular game by winning previous games.
This is it. I think I officially have rant fatigue.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 07:55:34 PM
On my internets: stupid Americans acting like a sports team somehow advancing to an elimination playoff despite losing one non-elimination game beforehand is something crazy and totally fucking novel.
Relatedly, Keith Olbermann last night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7dmOvMCmkw).
I look forward to his rant about NFL teams who rest their regulars in Week 17 this coming season.
Motivation not to win in sports is always a bad thing, regardless of whether a team has bought themselves the privilege of not having to care about winning a particular game by winning previous games.
Because I should feel bad about a really good team that I'm pulling for going forward in a tournament that is intense and emotional and exciting and gripping and a fucking blast to watch and a sport that I get really charged about and they're really good and Jesus Fucking Christ nobody cares what you have to pontificate about in your stupid 3 minute segment.
Not everything deserves a self important editorial.
Have to breathe now.
Quote from: CT III on June 26, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 07:55:34 PM
On my internets: stupid Americans acting like a sports team somehow advancing to an elimination playoff despite losing one non-elimination game beforehand is something crazy and totally fucking novel.
Relatedly, Keith Olbermann last night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7dmOvMCmkw).
I look forward to his rant about NFL teams who rest their regulars in Week 17 this coming season.
Motivation not to win in sports is always a bad thing, regardless of whether a team has bought themselves the privilege of not having to care about winning a particular game by winning previous games.
This is it. I think I officially have rant fatigue.
now you have it? NOW?
Quote from: Slaky on June 27, 2014, 09:18:29 AM
Quote from: CT III on June 26, 2014, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 07:55:34 PM
On my internets: stupid Americans acting like a sports team somehow advancing to an elimination playoff despite losing one non-elimination game beforehand is something crazy and totally fucking novel.
Relatedly, Keith Olbermann last night (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7dmOvMCmkw).
I look forward to his rant about NFL teams who rest their regulars in Week 17 this coming season.
Motivation not to win in sports is always a bad thing, regardless of whether a team has bought themselves the privilege of not having to care about winning a particular game by winning previous games.
This is it. I think I officially have rant fatigue.
now you have it? NOW?
NOW.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 26, 2014, 02:12:33 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 26, 2014, 01:31:07 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 26, 2014, 12:54:09 PM
ISA vs. Belgium: Death to All Tonkers
That'll be a good game, I think.
Didn't you say something once about the Belgians being a bunch of child molesters?
Kurt Evans is Belgian?
Quote from: flannj on June 24, 2014, 09:26:01 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 24, 2014, 01:50:19 PM
In sports, you use the gifts God has given you...
(http://i.imgur.com/kCPIuQQ.jpg)
This is why he fits in so well on Liverpool.
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/7a00593376ea2019abf1d80a1cfdfd99/tumblr_n7q3ulO9lH1tvp53vo1_1280.jpg)
Remaining teams, ranked in order of odds to win it all. (http://www.si.com/soccer/planet-futbol/2014/06/27/world-cup-power-rankings-knockout-stage-brazil)
Save you a click - U.S. ranked 10th out of 16. Not bad.
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10
USA
Round of 16 Opponent: Belgium
The Americans got out of the Group of Death and are having visions of 2002. Getting to the quarterfinals again would mean beating Belgium, though, a very dynamic European foe that has yet to play its best game. Looking past that, it's likely to be Messi waiting in the wings. It's a tall task, but so was getting out of Group G.
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
Quote from: Brownie on June 27, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
Quote from: flannj on December 06, 2013, 11:34:19 AM
Given the U.S. draw this is going to be a short lived thread.
FYF!
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 27, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 27, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 27, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
It should involve a lot of ties and winning-by-losing.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 27, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 27, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 27, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
It should involve a lot of ties and winning-by-losing.
Fucking soccer, man.
How does it even work?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 27, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 27, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 27, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
It should involve a lot of ties and winning-by-losing.
The USMNT has never had to settle a World Cup match with penalties, has it? Because that's absolute fucking TORTURE.
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 27, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 27, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 27, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
It should involve a lot of ties and winning-by-losing.
The USMNT has never had to settle a World Cup match with penalties, has it? Because that's absolute fucking TORTURE.
I remember watching a World Cup final game back around high school ('94?) where the good Italian guy shot it right over the goal in penalty kicks against the Brazilians to lose it.
Seemed heartbreaking.
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 27, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 27, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 27, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
It should involve a lot of ties and winning-by-losing.
The USMNT has never had to settle a World Cup match with penalties, has it? Because that's absolute fucking TORTURE.
Wouldn't that be a comparatively advantageous situation for the US because they have a good goalkeeper?
Quote from: ChuckD on June 27, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 27, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 27, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 27, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
It should involve a lot of ties and winning-by-losing.
The USMNT has never had to settle a World Cup match with penalties, has it? Because that's absolute fucking TORTURE.
Wouldn't that be a comparatively advantageous situation for the US because they have a good goalkeeper?
You'd have thought, right? Except with penalties, all bets are off because it has nothing to do with talent any more, and everything to do with not shitting your pants, and sheer, dumb fucking luck. You think a five-game post-season series is a crapshoot? You ain't seen nothing yet. Besides, pretty much every side has a good keeper (with the possible exception of Russia, whose keeper had a fucking 'mare over the last three games), or they didn't get to the World Cup finals.
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 03:14:13 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 27, 2014, 03:08:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 03:01:47 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 27, 2014, 02:46:21 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on June 27, 2014, 02:39:49 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 02:28:31 PM
Quote from: Brownie on June 27, 2014, 02:18:35 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 01:49:41 PM
I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
It should involve a lot of ties and winning-by-losing.
The USMNT has never had to settle a World Cup match with penalties, has it? Because that's absolute fucking TORTURE.
Wouldn't that be a comparatively advantageous situation for the US because they have a good goalkeeper?
You'd have thought, right? Except with penalties, all bets are off because it has nothing to do with talent any more, and everything to do with not shitting your pants, and sheer, dumb fucking luck. You think a five-game post-season series is a crapshoot? You ain't seen nothing yet. Besides, pretty much every side has a good keeper (with the possible exception of Russia, whose keeper had a fucking 'mare over the last three games), or they didn't get to the World Cup finals.
Maybe it was the defense, but I thought Spain's goalie was pretty shit.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 27, 2014, 03:16:10 PM
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I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
It should involve a lot of ties and winning-by-losing.
The USMNT has never had to settle a World Cup match with penalties, has it? Because that's absolute fucking TORTURE.
Wouldn't that be a comparatively advantageous situation for the US because they have a good goalkeeper?
You'd have thought, right? Except with penalties, all bets are off because it has nothing to do with talent any more, and everything to do with not shitting your pants, and sheer, dumb fucking luck. You think a five-game post-season series is a crapshoot? You ain't seen nothing yet. Besides, pretty much every side has a good keeper (with the possible exception of Russia, whose keeper had a fucking 'mare over the last three games), or they didn't get to the World Cup finals.
Maybe it was the defense, but I thought Spain's goalie was pretty shit.
That's absolutely fair: Casillas had a fucking shocker. I'd forgotten about that.
Quote from: Tonker on June 27, 2014, 03:14:13 PM
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I think the US have a decent chance against Belgium. They have very little chance against Argentina, should they get that far - unless Messi gets hurt, or suspended, or something, in the meantime.
I like Holland's path to the semis (Mexico/winner of Costa Rica/Greece), and am already semi-erect at the thought of a France-Germany QF next week. I'm assuming the remaining African teams are going to African themselves a plane ticket home in the meantime.
Assuming Germany beats France, does the Brazil-Germany semifinal do anything for you? I guess this assumes Brazil gets by Chile and then Uruguay or Colombia.
I actually think that Brazil have possibly the hardest run to the Maracanã: Chile, Colombia, and France or Germany. They could lose any of those. If they get to the final, they'll have earned it, and it probably won't matter who makes it from the other side of the draw, they're destined to be runners-up...
I'm waiting for TJ to give us the optimism path that shows the U.S. beating Algeria in the finals.
It should involve a lot of ties and winning-by-losing.
The USMNT has never had to settle a World Cup match with penalties, has it? Because that's absolute fucking TORTURE.
Wouldn't that be a comparatively advantageous situation for the US because they have a good goalkeeper?
You'd have thought, right? Except with penalties, all bets are off because it has nothing to do with talent any more, and everything to do with not shitting your pants, and sheer, dumb fucking luck. You think a five-game post-season series is a crapshoot? You ain't seen nothing yet. Besides, pretty much every side has a good keeper (with the possible exception of Russia, whose keeper had a fucking 'mare over the last three games), or they didn't get to the World Cup finals.
Some soccer statfaggery (http://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbymcmahon/2014/06/27/as-penalty-kick-deciders-loom-at-2014-world-cup-here-are-the-two-most-ridiculous-myths/) to support this.
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The percentage success rate in the World Cup is 71.2% compared to 82.7% (CA) and 84.6% (EC), possibly reflecting the greater importance and consequent pressure of the world stage. The success rate of each penalty kick changes throughout the competition:
First kick 86.6%
Second kick 81.7%
Third kick 79.3%
Fourth kick 72.5%
Fifth kick 80%
'Sudden death' kicks 64.3%
These results highlight the increasing pressure as the competition progresses and may also highlight the 'best player should go first' fallacy. The idea of 'getting off to a good start' by putting the best penalty taker first appears wrong as there is least pressure on this kick.
There's a book called Soccernomics that gets into the game theory behind penalties and it's very very interesting.
Quote from: Slaky on June 27, 2014, 04:57:31 PM
There's a book called Soccernomics that gets into the game theory behind penalties and it's very very interesting.
Since we're never gonna read it, do you have any insight you could share?
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Quote from: Slaky on June 27, 2014, 04:57:31 PM
There's a book called Soccernomics that gets into the game theory behind penalties and it's very very interesting.
Since we're never gonna read it, do you have any insight you could share?
Sometimes they shoot to the right, sometimes they shoot to the left. Pick one and pray. Reverse if you're the one shooting.
Timely post...
Extra Time Isn't a Crapshoot in the Knockout Round, But Penalties Are (http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/extra-time-isnt-a-crapshoot-in-the-knockout-round-but-penalties-are/)
QuoteOf course, some matches feature much heavier favorites than others. So we ran a logistic regression model to estimate the favorite's win probability based on the difference in the team's Elo ratings. Those results are reflected by the red line in the chart below.
(http://i.imgur.com/TTAnvMY.png)
In a knockout-stage game featuring teams with a 100-point Elo-rating difference — for instance, Italy and Ivory Coast based on their pre-World Cup Elo ratings — the favorite (in this case, Italy) starts out with a 64 percent chance of winning. If the game is tied at the end of regulation play, the favorite's chance of winning (either after extra time or on penalties) is reduced to 56 percent. Its edge is even smaller if extra time is drawn and the only way to win is on penalties — it has just a 53 percent chance of prevailing at that point, we estimate.
Where the difference between the teams is larger, the favorite maintains more of an edge. Argentina and Algeria, for example, have about a 350-point Elo-rating difference. Argentina would have a 71 percent chance of winning such a game after it went to extra time. However, its edge would be quite small — it would only be about a 60-40 favorite — if the game went to penalties.
What Tonker said.
Brazil / Chile what a fucking game.
The last desperate attack of the Mexicans
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 29, 2014, 12:56:15 PM
The last desperate attack of the Mexicans
Stay out of Pilsen tonight.
(http://i61.tinypic.com/pu9ls.jpg)
They later deleted it but not before a string of angry replies. Maybe someone made an especially cutting Tenerife reference as the last time KLM got itself into trouble with Spanish speakers.
Huntelaar's penalty, on Plein in Den Haag. (http://tinypic.com/r/t0m8n5/8)
Quote from: Tonker on June 29, 2014, 05:15:32 PM
Huntelaar's penalty, on Plein in Den Haag. (http://tinypic.com/r/t0m8n5/8)
This game would have been a lot more fun to watch if Robben didn't dive like a seventies porn star.
Quote from: Tonker on June 29, 2014, 05:15:32 PM
Huntelaar's penalty, on Plein in Den Haag. (http://tinypic.com/r/t0m8n5/8)
(http://i.imgur.com/kaSIcou.jpg)
"Check out this douchebag!"
This fucking dire. Argentina and Switzerland should both be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Can they both be eliminated? Belgium and the US could have a bye.
Holy fucking shit. History is being made, right here.
Quote from: Tonker on July 08, 2014, 04:10:42 PM
Holy fucking shit. History is being made, right here.
Twitter tells me that the last time Brazil lost a competitive game at home was the year before I was born.
Quote from: Tonker on July 08, 2014, 04:10:42 PM
Holy fucking shit. History is being made, right here.
Everywhere. All the time.
Quote from: Tonker on July 08, 2014, 04:10:42 PM
Holy fucking shit. History is being made, right here.
The Brazillian Al Yellon is having the time of his life.
Quote from: Tonker on July 08, 2014, 04:10:42 PM
Holy fucking shit. History is being made, right here.
I have a feeling that about 6 of my clients have just committed the Brazilian version of ritual Seppuku.
Great piece on Germany-Brazil (http://www.espnfc.com/blog/wright-thompson/94/post/1940906/wright-thompson----scenes-of-defeat-on-the-streets-of-brazil) by ESPN's Wright Thompson.
An excellent, no-holds barred appraisal from Zico. (http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/jul/09/brazil-germany-zico) He's clearly angling to succeed Scolari.
Suck it, Tonk
Quote from: Yeti on June 05, 2015, 08:00:02 PM
Suck it, Tonk
Waiting for the inevitable "It's only a friendly
excuses waffling backpedaling sour grapes good game mate" harumphing.
It's only a friendly, excuses, waffling, backpedaling, sour grapes, good game mate. Harrumph.
Seriously, though: it's only a friendly.
What happened? I was too busy enjoying 'Merican sportz all weekend.
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
3-4 sounds like a loss.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 08, 2015, 10:20:44 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
3-4 sounds like a loss.
Home team score always comes first.
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Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
3-4 sounds like a loss.
Home team score always comes first.
Jesus. Can't you people do anything right?
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
Racist.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 08, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
Racist.
Well, I may be behind the times, but if taking the piss out of spics and dagoes is racist then I simply don't get it any more.
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 08, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
Racist.
Well, I may be behind the times, but if taking the piss out of spics and dagoes is racist then I simply don't get it any more.
The Dutch fucking suck
Quote from: Slaky on June 08, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 08, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
Racist.
Well, I may be behind the times, but if taking the piss out of spics and dagoes is racist then I simply don't get it any more.
The Dutch fucking suck
Good talk.
EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/aeJKPUl.jpg?1)
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 08, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 08, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
Racist.
Well, I may be behind the times, but if taking the piss out of spics and dagoes is racist then I simply don't get it any more.
The Dutch fucking suck
Good talk.
EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/aeJKPUl.jpg?1)
Suck it you fucking Ocker... (http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-09/us-beats-matildas-3-1-in-world-cup-opener/6531954?section=sport)
Eat shit you Kraut motherfuckers http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2015/6/10/8762411/watch-bobby-wood-shock-germany-with-an-amazing-winning-goal-for-the/in/8525452
Just a friendly....
....
....
Just a friendly "Fuck you, SoccerWorld. ISA is coming y'all"
*files all of this away*
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 08, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 08, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
Racist.
Well, I may be behind the times, but if taking the piss out of spics and dagoes is racist then I simply don't get it any more.
The Dutch fucking suck
Good talk.
EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/aeJKPUl.jpg?1)
There's no way possible that this winds up on a shit-for-brains hockey site in an impproved state.
Nope.
Nosiree.
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Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 02:22:49 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 08, 2015, 02:15:38 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 12:47:32 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 08, 2015, 12:38:55 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 08, 2015, 09:45:16 AM
USA beat NL 3-4, in Amsterdam, having been 3-2 down with around a minute of normal time to go. I'd post a link but all the highlights films I can find on Youtube have Spanish commentary and I can't fucking stand listening to that whole "GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!" bollocks.
Racist.
Well, I may be behind the times, but if taking the piss out of spics and dagoes is racist then I simply don't get it any more.
The Dutch fucking suck
Good talk.
EDIT:
(http://i.imgur.com/aeJKPUl.jpg?1)
There's no way possible that this winds up on a shit-for-brains hockey site in an impproved state.
Nope.
Nosiree.
Save it for the clincher. With all the shit on your canvas, having a bearded fellow with the monikor "Tonker" would make for a perfect round off to whatever it is those are.
Quote from: Tonker on June 11, 2015, 01:37:47 AM
*files all of this away*
We have one country, you have like seventeen. Seems fair.
Quote from: Slaky on June 11, 2015, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 11, 2015, 01:37:47 AM
*files all of this away*
We have one country, you have like seventeen. Seems fair.
I support the sentiment, but you have all the Scandinavian ones.
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Quote from: Slaky on June 11, 2015, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 11, 2015, 01:37:47 AM
*files all of this away*
We have one country, you have like seventeen. Seems fair.
I support the sentiment, but you have all the Scandinavian ones.
Just Norway and they're never going to qualify
Quote from: Slaky on June 11, 2015, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 11, 2015, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 11, 2015, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 11, 2015, 01:37:47 AM
*files all of this away*
We have one country, you have like seventeen. Seems fair.
I support the sentiment, but you have all the Scandinavian ones.
Just Norway and they're never going to qualify
Count yourself lucky: I spend my evenings sobbing into my Rhodesia scarf.
Quote from: Tonker on June 11, 2015, 12:39:14 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 11, 2015, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 11, 2015, 11:04:47 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 11, 2015, 10:58:04 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 11, 2015, 01:37:47 AM
*files all of this away*
We have one country, you have like seventeen. Seems fair.
I support the sentiment, but you have all the Scandinavian ones.
Just Norway and they're never going to qualify
Count yourself lucky: I spend my evenings sobbing into my Rhodesia scarf.
Racist.
We're all Rhodesians and we'll fight through thick and thin.
We'll keep our land a free land, stop the enemy coming in.
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi till that river's running dry.
This mighty land will prosper for Rhodesians never die.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on June 11, 2015, 08:12:39 PM
We're all Rhodesians and we'll fight through thick and thin.
We'll keep our land a free land, stop the enemy coming in.
We'll keep them north of the Zambezi till that river's running dry.
This mighty land will prosper for Rhodesians never die.
*sob*
(http://rhodesians-worldwide.com/imagesx/ptobeRHa.jpg)