The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread

[R-V]

Zambrano, Jackson, and Cashner, 6th inning to 8th inning in 2011! I'm sure moving their top 2 starting pitching prospects to the bullpen has nothing to do with Hendry trying to keep his job.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/05/26/cashner-quickest-route-to-the-majors-might-be-the-pen/

"We did the same experiment with Jay Jackson," Iowa pitching coach Mike Mason said. "Jackson passed, now it's Cashner's turn to see if he can acclimate to the bullpen."

Wait, wasn't Cashner a closer in college?  Then, the Cubs decided to stretch him out, right?  Now, they want to put him back in the pen?  Goddamn it.

Yup. He's got all of 175 innings logged as a starter since they drafted him. I see nothing that could possibly go wrong with putting him back in the bullpen.

[Richard Chuggar]

Zambrano, Jackson, and Cashner, 6th inning to 8th inning in 2011! I'm sure moving their top 2 starting pitching prospects to the bullpen has nothing to do with Hendry trying to keep his job.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/05/26/cashner-quickest-route-to-the-majors-might-be-the-pen/

"We did the same experiment with Jay Jackson," Iowa pitching coach Mike Mason said. "Jackson passed, now it's Cashner's turn to see if he can acclimate to the bullpen."

Wait, wasn't Cashner a closer in college?  Then, the Cubs decided to stretch him out, right?  Now, they want to put him back in the pen?  Goddamn it.

Yup. He's got all of 175 innings logged as a starter since they drafted him. I see nothing that could possibly go wrong with putting him back in the bullpen.

I can.

[Powdered Toast Man]

Zambrano, Jackson, and Cashner, 6th inning to 8th inning in 2011! I'm sure moving their top 2 starting pitching prospects to the bullpen has nothing to do with Hendry trying to keep his job.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/05/26/cashner-quickest-route-to-the-majors-might-be-the-pen/

"We did the same experiment with Jay Jackson," Iowa pitching coach Mike Mason said. "Jackson passed, now it's Cashner's turn to see if he can acclimate to the bullpen."

Wait, wasn't Cashner a closer in college?  Then, the Cubs decided to stretch him out, right?  Now, they want to put him back in the pen?  Goddamn it.

Yup. He's got all of 175 innings logged as a starter since they drafted him. I see nothing that could possibly go wrong with putting him back in the bullpen.

I can't tell if you're green fonting me here, but this is what Cashner had to say about it:

"It surprised me when I first heard about it.  I talked to (the Chicago Cubs) about going to relief a while back, but it was always their thought that I was going to start. Working out of the bullpen is something right now that excites me."

I guess he feels more comfortable pitching out of the pen.  Regardless, this is just the Cubs trying to get his ass in Chicago with the quickness.  At least to me it is.

[R-V]

Zambrano, Jackson, and Cashner, 6th inning to 8th inning in 2011! I'm sure moving their top 2 starting pitching prospects to the bullpen has nothing to do with Hendry trying to keep his job.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2010/05/26/cashner-quickest-route-to-the-majors-might-be-the-pen/

"We did the same experiment with Jay Jackson," Iowa pitching coach Mike Mason said. "Jackson passed, now it's Cashner's turn to see if he can acclimate to the bullpen."

Wait, wasn't Cashner a closer in college?  Then, the Cubs decided to stretch him out, right?  Now, they want to put him back in the pen?  Goddamn it.

Yup. He's got all of 175 innings logged as a starter since they drafted him. I see nothing that could possibly go wrong with putting him back in the bullpen.

I can't tell if you're green fonting me here, but this is what Cashner had to say about it:

"It surprised me when I first heard about it.  I talked to (the Chicago Cubs) about going to relief a while back, but it was always their thought that I was going to start. Working out of the bullpen is something right now that excites me."

I guess he feels more comfortable pitching out of the pen.  Regardless, this is just the Cubs trying to get his ass in Chicago with the quickness.  At least to me it is.

No green font. If their ultimate goal here is to have him start, where he would have the most value, it doesn't make sense to put him back in the bullpen when he hasn't even had 200 innings to get comfortable as a starter. Ah who am I shitting, Hendry has no long term goals.

And I agree, they want him in the bullpen to SAVE THE SEASON.

[Quality Start Machine]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

[PenPho]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

Seriously, guys like Eck and Smoltz who transitioned perfectly from starting to the pen were totally gutless until they weren't.

[Quality Start Machine]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

Seriously, guys like Eck and Smoltz who transitioned perfectly from starting to the pen were totally gutless until they weren't.

The Cubs' usual group of relievers have raisins in their nut sack. It might not even be rare in environs other than the North Side of Chicago. But it's rare here.

[Kermit IV]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

Seriously, guys like Eck and Smoltz who transitioned perfectly from starting to the pen were totally gutless until they weren't.

The Cubs' usual group of relievers have raisins in their nut sack. It might not even be rare in environs other than the North Side of Chicago. But it's rare here.

This statement makes absolutely no sense.  The "usual group of relievers" might be a bunch of talentless sucks, but most of them are/were at least dumb enough to be fearless.  Remember Farnsworth?

[Quality Start Machine]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

Seriously, guys like Eck and Smoltz who transitioned perfectly from starting to the pen were totally gutless until they weren't.

The Cubs' usual group of relievers have raisins in their nut sack. It might not even be rare in environs other than the North Side of Chicago. But it's rare here.

This statement makes absolutely no sense.  The "usual group of relievers" might be a bunch of talentless sucks, but most of them are/were at least dumb enough to be fearless.  Remember Farnsworth?

I blame every catcher Farnsworth ever had for not putting a sniper on the roof of Wrigley Field with orders to shoot ti kill whenever Farnsworth got the bright idea in his head of throwing a slider.

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

Seriously, guys like Eck and Smoltz who transitioned perfectly from starting to the pen were totally gutless until they weren't.

The Cubs' usual group of relievers have raisins in their nut sack. It might not even be rare in environs other than the North Side of Chicago. But it's rare here.

This statement makes absolutely no sense.  The "usual group of relievers" might be a bunch of talentless sucks, but most of them are/were at least dumb enough to be fearless.  Remember Farnsworth?

I blame every catcher Farnsworth ever had for not putting a sniper on the roof of Wrigley Field with orders to shoot ti kill whenever Farnsworth got the bright idea in his head of throwing a slider.

That's something that can't be taught.

[Tinker to Evers to Chance]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

Seriously, guys like Eck and Smoltz who transitioned perfectly from starting to the pen were totally gutless until they weren't.

The Cubs' usual group of relievers have raisins in their nut sack. It might not even be rare in environs other than the North Side of Chicago. But it's rare here.

This statement makes absolutely no sense.  The "usual group of relievers" might be a bunch of talentless sucks, but most of them are/were at least dumb enough to be fearless.  Remember Farnsworth?

I blame every catcher Farnsworth ever had for not putting a sniper on the roof of Wrigley Field with orders to shoot ti kill whenever Farnsworth got the bright idea in his head of throwing a slider.

That's something that can't be taught.

The hell it can't.

[Eli]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

How is pitching in the bullpen more of a "thrown into the fire" role than starting?  Most relievers are failed starters.*

* Or, in the Cubs' case, successful starters with career 3.57 ERAs.

[CT III]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

How is pitching in the bullpen more of a "thrown into the fire" role than starting?  Most relievers are failed starters.*

* Or, in the Cubs' case, successful starters with career 3.57 ERAs.

Can't you guys come up with something original to argue about?  I feel like I'm watching an episode of Community here.

[Dr. Nguyen Van Falk]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

Seriously, guys like Eck and Smoltz who transitioned perfectly from starting to the pen were totally gutless until they weren't.

The Cubs' usual group of relievers have raisins in their nut sack. It might not even be rare in environs other than the North Side of Chicago. But it's rare here.

This statement makes absolutely no sense.  The "usual group of relievers" might be a bunch of talentless sucks, but most of them are/were at least dumb enough to be fearless.  Remember Farnsworth?

I blame every catcher Farnsworth ever had for not putting a sniper on the roof of Wrigley Field with orders to shoot ti kill whenever Farnsworth got the bright idea in his head of throwing a slider.

That's something that can't be taught.

The hell it can't.

"One shot, one kill."

[Powdered Toast Man]

Fuck it, if you've got a guy who would rather be thrown into the fire than start, that's something that can't be taught.

How is pitching in the bullpen more of a "thrown into the fire" role than starting?  Most relievers are failed starters.*

* Or, in the Cubs' case, successful starters with career 3.57 ERAs.

Can't you guys come up with something original to argue about?  I feel like I'm watching an episode of Community here.

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