The Unresolved Bullpen Angst Thread

[BH]

"Chad Fox, who has already had three Tommy John surgeries and left last night's game with an elbow injury, is being replaced by 24-year old right-handed reliever Jose Ascanio, according to Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune.

Ascanio was 1-1 with a 1.01 ERA in six starts for Triple-A Iowa, says Sullivan."

It's da return of da mothafuckin' Ass Can, yo. If he had those numbers at AAA why wasn't he called up ahead of Chad Fox? The "brain" trust must have seen something they didn't like. Either that or they were hell-bent on absolving Dusty for Chad Fox's 2005 arm popping incident. As far as I'm concerned the other day was irrefutable proof that it was nobody's fault. The dude shouldn't have been playing pro ball at any level either time. I blame whoever gave the guy a jersey.

It's great how our organization can't decide if people are starting pitchers or relievers.

[CT III]

"Chad Fox, who has already had three Tommy John surgeries and left last night's game with an elbow injury, is being replaced by 24-year old right-handed reliever Jose Ascanio, according to Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune.

Ascanio was 1-1 with a 1.01 ERA in six starts for Triple-A Iowa, says Sullivan."

It's da return of da mothafuckin' Ass Can, yo. If he had those numbers at AAA why wasn't he called up ahead of Chad Fox? The "brain" trust must have seen something they didn't like. Either that or they were hell-bent on absolving Dusty for Chad Fox's 2005 arm popping incident. As far as I'm concerned the other day was irrefutable proof that it was nobody's fault. The dude shouldn't have been playing pro ball at any level either time. I blame whoever gave the guy a jersey.

Also, why the hell are the Cubs so petrified of losing David Patton?  This isn't some rebuilding low-payroll team that can afford to carry a shitty Rule V pick on the roster hoping he pans out.  Send him down to the minors and if the Rockies want him back then so be it.

[Internet Apex]

"Chad Fox, who has already had three Tommy John surgeries and left last night's game with an elbow injury, is being replaced by 24-year old right-handed reliever Jose Ascanio, according to Paul Sullivan of the Chicago Tribune.

Ascanio was 1-1 with a 1.01 ERA in six starts for Triple-A Iowa, says Sullivan."

It's da return of da mothafuckin' Ass Can, yo. If he had those numbers at AAA why wasn't he called up ahead of Chad Fox? The "brain" trust must have seen something they didn't like. Either that or they were hell-bent on absolving Dusty for Chad Fox's 2005 arm popping incident. As far as I'm concerned the other day was irrefutable proof that it was nobody's fault. The dude shouldn't have been playing pro ball at any level either time. I blame whoever gave the guy a jersey.

It's great how our organization can't decide if people are starting pitchers or relievers.

That's true. When OUR organization can't make up it's mind it's all kinds of awesome. When Jimbo and them can't do it, it makes me want to punch dolphins in their blow hole until they bust open and bleed.

[RV]

An-hell Goozman's eephus* will eat the flesh of the people who don't believe in him or have forgotten about him.

* May not throw an actual eephus pitch.

What that guy said. Last 8 appearances: 11.2 IP, 2.31 ERA, 0.86 WHIP, 11 Ks.

[Internet Apex]

An-hell Goozman's eephus* will eat the flesh of the people who don't believe in him or have forgotten about him.

* May not throw an actual eephus pitch.

What that guy said. Last 8 appearances: 11.2 IP, 2.31 ERA, 0.86 WHIP, 11 Ks.

Andrew Peck likes this.

[Quality Start Machine]

An-hell Goozman's eephus* will eat the flesh of the people who don't believe in him or have forgotten about him.

* May not throw an actual eephus pitch.

What that guy said. Last 8 appearances: 11.2 IP, 2.31 ERA, 0.86 WHIP, 11 Ks.

An-hell has gotten Lou's memo about throwing strikes, and he does have some serious shit.

[Andy]

Fox had a 1.59 ERA at Iowa, so, it's Iowa. 

Lou basically said that Wells is staying (though if he craps out in his next start all bets are off) and either he or Marshall will go to the bullpen when Z comes back.  Samardzija will be back at some point.  Ascanio showed promise last year but he got rocked progressively harder as May turned into June and then July.  But he's only "24".

I would think there's enough there to cobble together a bullpen, just not with Patton or Cotts.  Holy shit does Neal Cotts suck.

[Slaky]

Fox had a 1.59 ERA at Iowa, so, it's Iowa. 

Lou basically said that Wells is staying (though if he craps out in his next start all bets are off) and either he or Marshall will go to the bullpen when Z comes back.  Samardzija will be back at some point.  Ascanio showed promise last year but he got rocked progressively harder as May turned into June and then July.  But he's only "24".

I would think there's enough there to cobble together a bullpen, just not with Patton or Cotts.  Holy shit does Neal Cotts suck.

The Patton experiment needs to end now. That'd be a step in the right direction.

[Kermit, B.]

Fox had a 1.59 ERA at Iowa, so, it's Iowa. 

Lou basically said that Wells is staying (though if he craps out in his next start all bets are off) and either he or Marshall will go to the bullpen when Z comes back.  Samardzija will be back at some point.  Ascanio showed promise last year but he got rocked progressively harder as May turned into June and then July.  But he's only "24".

I would think there's enough there to cobble together a bullpen, just not with Patton or Cotts.  Holy shit does Neal Cotts suck.

Jesus, what does that poor kid have to do to stick in the rotation?  Pray that Carmen Pignatiello can replace Neal Cotts as the only shitty lefty in the bullpen?

[Quality Start Machine]

Fox had a 1.59 ERA at Iowa, so, it's Iowa. 

Lou basically said that Wells is staying (though if he craps out in his next start all bets are off) and either he or Marshall will go to the bullpen when Z comes back.  Samardzija will be back at some point.  Ascanio showed promise last year but he got rocked progressively harder as May turned into June and then July.  But he's only "24".

I would think there's enough there to cobble together a bullpen, just not with Patton or Cotts.  Holy shit does Neal Cotts suck.

The Patton experiment needs to end now. That'd be a step in the right direction.

I concur. He didn't spend all that time in the sticks because of a clerical oversight.

[Lukester]

Fox had a 1.59 ERA at Iowa, so, it's Iowa. 

Lou basically said that Wells is staying (though if he craps out in his next start all bets are off) and either he or Marshall will go to the bullpen when Z comes back.  Samardzija will be back at some point.  Ascanio showed promise last year but he got rocked progressively harder as May turned into June and then July.  But he's only "24".

I would think there's enough there to cobble together a bullpen, just not with Patton or Cotts.  Holy shit does Neal Cotts suck.

The Patton experiment needs to end now. That'd be a step in the right direction.

I concur. He didn't spend all that time in the sticks because of a clerical oversight.

I thought the whole logic behind Patton playing in the bigs was the "he doesn't get rattled" theory.   (I think Lou said this?)    Which,  I suppose is a good thing.   But it shouldn't be the reason to get promoted.    If that was the case Zambrano would have never got out of Pony League.     

[*In a Nutsack]

I thought the reason Patton was playing in the bigs was because he was a Rule 5 selection and he has to remain on the roster the entire year or he gets returned to his team or something (I'm pretty sure to be corrected on this, but I hope I'm on the right track).

[BH]

I thought the reason Patton was playing in the bigs was because he was a Rule 5 selection and he has to remain on the roster the entire year or he gets returned to his team or something (I'm pretty sure to be corrected on this, but I hope I'm on the right track).

That is correct. Good idea for a team that has no chance of the playoffs, doesn't make sense for a team that does. Pretty certain Patton will not be Johan Santana.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Fox had a 1.59 ERA at Iowa, so, it's Iowa. 

Lou basically said that Wells is staying (though if he craps out in his next start all bets are off) and either he or Marshall will go to the bullpen when Z comes back.  Samardzija will be back at some point.  Ascanio showed promise last year but he got rocked progressively harder as May turned into June and then July.  But he's only "24".

I would think there's enough there to cobble together a bullpen, just not with Patton or Cotts.  Holy shit does Neal Cotts suck.

Jesus, what does that poor kid have to do to stick in the rotation?  Pray that Carmen Pignatiello can replace Neal Cotts as the only shitty lefty in the bullpen?

He needs to play for a GM who has a fucking clue how to put together a bullpen. Marshall's done more than enough earn a rotation spot.

[*In a Nutsack]

Fox had a 1.59 ERA at Iowa, so, it's Iowa. 

Lou basically said that Wells is staying (though if he craps out in his next start all bets are off) and either he or Marshall will go to the bullpen when Z comes back.  Samardzija will be back at some point.  Ascanio showed promise last year but he got rocked progressively harder as May turned into June and then July.  But he's only "24".

I would think there's enough there to cobble together a bullpen, just not with Patton or Cotts.  Holy shit does Neal Cotts suck.

Jesus, what does that poor kid have to do to stick in the rotation?  Pray that Carmen Pignatiello can replace Neal Cotts as the only shitty lefty in the bullpen?

He needs to play for a GM who has a fucking clue how to put together a bullpen. Marshall's done more than enough earn a rotation spot.

I agree.  But, right now I'd much rather have a combination of Randy Wells/Jeff Samardzija/Kevin Foster/Ruben Quevedo as the fifth starter and Sean Marshall taking over for Cotts in the pen.  Because, y'know, Cotts sucks and all.