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Title: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on January 25, 2010, 11:26:04 AM
Who is getting it tomorrow?  It looks pretty epic.  I loved the first one, despite the terribly boring side missions.  Apparently, they fixed almost all of the bad stuff and added a bunch of good stuff.  Hooray!
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: JD on January 25, 2010, 11:27:36 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 25, 2010, 11:26:04 AM
Who is getting it tomorrow?  It looks pretty epic.  I loved the first one, despite the terribly boring side missions.  Apparently, they fixed almost all of the bad stuff and added a bunch of good stuff.  Hooray!

I'm thinking about getting a used copy of Dirt 2 for the Wii from my local Hastings instead.  Anyone heard anything good about that one?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Yeti on January 25, 2010, 11:33:02 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 25, 2010, 11:26:04 AM
Who is getting it tomorrow?  It looks pretty epic.  I loved the first one, despite the terribly boring side missions.  Apparently, they fixed almost all of the bad stuff and added a bunch of good stuff.  Hooray!

Does "bad stuff" include how my teammates always fucking die 10 seconds into a firefight leaving me to take out 15 guys by myself? I've been playing this a bit lately and that's what keeps happening.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on January 25, 2010, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 25, 2010, 11:26:04 AM
Who is getting it tomorrow?  It looks pretty epic.  I loved the first one, despite the terribly boring side missions.  Apparently, they fixed almost all of the bad stuff and added a bunch of good stuff.  Hooray!

I'm picking it up tomorrow.  The first one was amazing, despite those side missions, some technical issues, and a pretty terrible inventory system.  All three of those will apparently be fixed, plus it'll be even more epic and have more alien sex!  And a character modeled after Yvonne Strahovski, which approaches the incredibly creepy, uncanny valley territory:

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2l9sdw5.jpg)
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: JD on January 25, 2010, 11:39:36 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 25, 2010, 11:34:09 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 25, 2010, 11:26:04 AM
Who is getting it tomorrow?  It looks pretty epic.  I loved the first one, despite the terribly boring side missions.  Apparently, they fixed almost all of the bad stuff and added a bunch of good stuff.  Hooray!

I'm picking it up tomorrow.  The first one was amazing, despite those side missions, some technical issues, and a pretty terrible inventory system.  All three of those will apparently be fixed, plus it'll be even more epic and have more alien sex!  And a character modeled after Yvonne Strahovski, which approaches the incredibly creepy, uncanny valley territory:

(http://i40.tinypic.com/2l9sdw5.jpg)

Why are her boobs so saggy?  Did she just have a baby?  Is that a spoiler?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on January 26, 2010, 07:17:33 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 25, 2010, 11:26:04 AM
Who is getting it tomorrow?  It looks pretty epic.  I loved the first one, despite the terribly boring side missions.  Apparently, they fixed almost all of the bad stuff and added a bunch of good stuff.  Hooray!

Not me.  If I can't fight as 'Merican soldiers and call in AC130s, I ain't interested.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Just thought I'd add, for anyone interested in buying this game at some point, make sure you get a new copy.  BioWare's plan for (what seems like) all of their new games is to make all DLC free if you buy the copy new instead of used.  When you get a new copy for ME2, you get a code to join "The Cerberus Network" for free, which is where you get all the different DLC, including a new character and some new items that are available at launch.  If you get a used copy, however, you have to pay $15 to join that network.  That's still a good deal considering it gives you all the DLC available, but then you're not really saving any of the money from the used copy. 
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Just thought I'd add, for anyone interested in buying this game at some point, make sure you get a new copy.  BioWare's plan for (what seems like) all of their new games is to make all DLC free if you buy the copy new instead of used.  When you get a new copy for ME2, you get a code to join "The Cerberus Network" for free, which is where you get all the different DLC, including a new character and some new items that are available at launch.  If you get a used copy, however, you have to pay $15 to join that network.  That's still a good deal considering it gives you all the DLC available, but then you're not really saving any of the money from the used copy. 

Unless, of course, you buy the used copy for less than $45.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on January 26, 2010, 09:14:12 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Just thought I'd add, for anyone interested in buying this game at some point, make sure you get a new copy.  BioWare's plan for (what seems like) all of their new games is to make all DLC free if you buy the copy new instead of used.  When you get a new copy for ME2, you get a code to join "The Cerberus Network" for free, which is where you get all the different DLC, including a new character and some new items that are available at launch.  If you get a used copy, however, you have to pay $15 to join that network.  That's still a good deal considering it gives you all the DLC available, but then you're not really saving any of the money from the used copy. 

Unless, of course, you buy the used copy for less than $45.

(http://phoqueue.com/uploaded_images/040538845-nbc_the_more_you_know-783079.jpg)
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: JD on January 26, 2010, 11:46:02 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Just thought I'd add, for anyone interested in buying this game at some point, make sure you get a new copy.  BioWare's plan for (what seems like) all of their new games is to make all DLC free if you buy the copy new instead of used.  When you get a new copy for ME2, you get a code to join "The Cerberus Network" for free, which is where you get all the different DLC, including a new character and some new items that are available at launch.  If you get a used copy, however, you have to pay $15 to join that network.  That's still a good deal considering it gives you all the DLC available, but then you're not really saving any of the money from the used copy. 

Unless, of course, you buy the used copy for less than $45.

You ain't buyin' Dirt 2, BK.  We're talkin' ME2(!).  Well, you guys are.  I'm still talkin' 'bout Dirt 2 and I seem to be the only one doing so.  So what's up?  You guys don't like dirt or you don't like the number 2?  Because this thing has BOTH.  IN the title.  Titularly speaking, I find myself intrigued.  The Subaru "getting air" on the cover also does nothing to quash my intrigue-i-gation.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 11:58:30 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Just thought I'd add, for anyone interested in buying this game at some point, make sure you get a new copy.  BioWare's plan for (what seems like) all of their new games is to make all DLC free if you buy the copy new instead of used.  When you get a new copy for ME2, you get a code to join "The Cerberus Network" for free, which is where you get all the different DLC, including a new character and some new items that are available at launch.  If you get a used copy, however, you have to pay $15 to join that network.  That's still a good deal considering it gives you all the DLC available, but then you're not really saving any of the money from the used copy. 

Unless, of course, you buy the used copy for less than $45.

When you find a used copy of a brand spanking new game for $45, let me know.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 11:58:30 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Just thought I'd add, for anyone interested in buying this game at some point, make sure you get a new copy.  BioWare's plan for (what seems like) all of their new games is to make all DLC free if you buy the copy new instead of used.  When you get a new copy for ME2, you get a code to join "The Cerberus Network" for free, which is where you get all the different DLC, including a new character and some new items that are available at launch.  If you get a used copy, however, you have to pay $15 to join that network.  That's still a good deal considering it gives you all the DLC available, but then you're not really saving any of the money from the used copy. 

Unless, of course, you buy the used copy for less than $45.

When you find a used copy of a brand spanking new game for $45, let me know.

Nice job, PANK.  I'm just pointing out that Weebs' logic is as retardedly flawed as it normally is.  Also, I just found Assassin's Creed 2 brand spanking new for $40 not too long after its release.  A little patience pays off.  Or $40 in Best Buy rewards, like I'm using later today.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 12:19:32 PM
Quote from: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 11:58:30 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 08:43:03 AM
Just thought I'd add, for anyone interested in buying this game at some point, make sure you get a new copy.  BioWare's plan for (what seems like) all of their new games is to make all DLC free if you buy the copy new instead of used.  When you get a new copy for ME2, you get a code to join "The Cerberus Network" for free, which is where you get all the different DLC, including a new character and some new items that are available at launch.  If you get a used copy, however, you have to pay $15 to join that network.  That's still a good deal considering it gives you all the DLC available, but then you're not really saving any of the money from the used copy. 

Unless, of course, you buy the used copy for less than $45.

When you find a used copy of a brand spanking new game for $45, let me know.

Nice job, PANK.  I'm just pointing out that Weebs' logic is as retardedly flawed as it normally is.  Also, I just found Assassin's Creed 2 brand spanking new for $40 not too long after its release.  A little patience pays off.  Or $40 in Best Buy rewards, like I'm using later today.

When a used copy of a game is down to $45 or less, especially one as high-profile as ME2, generally you'll be able to find it new for a similar price, or at least within $15 of the used price.  And if you find it brand new for $40, like you did with AC2, why even bother looking for a used copy?  I can't imagine, at least until about a year or two down the road, that you'll find a used copy of ME2 at least $15 less than you'll find it new somewhere.  You definitely won't find it that cheap at Gamestop.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Slaky on January 26, 2010, 01:31:47 PM
I could play Fallout 3 for the next year and not get sick of it. So much fun. I'm going to rely on some good stories from you guys to let me know if this game is any good.

Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on January 26, 2010, 01:53:24 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 01:31:47 PM
I could play Fallout 3 for the next year and not get sick of it. So much fun. I'm going to rely on some good stories from you guys to let me know if this game is any good.



Skip over Weebs', then, and just read mine.  They'll be AWESOME.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Pre on January 26, 2010, 03:19:49 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 01:31:47 PM
I could play Fallout 3 for the next year and not get sick of it. So much fun. I'm going to rely on some good stories from you guys to let me know if this game is any good.

I felt that about it at first, but I hit a wall around 35 hours or so and just went
ahead and beat it (around 40 hours total).  Once you hit a certain level you just
destroy every thing ever once you look at it and so it got a little boring.

That said, I'm sure I could go back and focus on the half of the map I didn't get
to with a new character and enjoy it.

I'm looking forward to Mass Effect 2, but I just slogged through Dragon Age so
I need a break from Bioware.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Slaky on January 26, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 03:19:49 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 01:31:47 PM
I could play Fallout 3 for the next year and not get sick of it. So much fun. I'm going to rely on some good stories from you guys to let me know if this game is any good.

I felt that about it at first, but I hit a wall around 35 hours or so and just went
ahead and beat it (around 40 hours total).  Once you hit a certain level you just
destroy every thing ever once you look at it and so it got a little boring.

That said, I'm sure I could go back and focus on the half of the map I didn't get
to with a new character and enjoy it.

I'm looking forward to Mass Effect 2, but I just slogged through Dragon Age so
I need a break from Bioware.

Sadly I've play almost 54 hours at this point. I've just raised Liberty Prime but I'm going to travel around the Wasteland with Fawkes and try and discover all that I can and hopefully beat a lot of the side missions. Like Kerm, I'm a little achievement happy, so I'm going to try and get as many as I can.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 03:48:10 PM
Note to whoever buys this game: Make sure you register your DLC codes with the EA account associated with your Gamertag.  I apparently had two EA accounts, and the one I made with my Gmail account does not have my GT on it, so I've been on hold with EA's support for 45 minutes waiting to get it switched over because the game is telling me the code is already in use.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: JD on January 26, 2010, 04:18:57 PM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 03:48:10 PM
Note to whoever buys this game: Make sure you register your DLC codes with the EA account associated with your Gamertag.  I apparently had two EA accounts, and the one I made with my Gmail account does not have my GT on it, so I've been on hold with EA's support for 45 minutes waiting to get it switched over because the game is telling me the code is already in use.

You're doing this on purpose, aren't you?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: JD on January 26, 2010, 04:18:57 PM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 03:48:10 PM
Note to whoever buys this game: Make sure you register your DLC codes with the EA account associated with your Gamertag.  I apparently had two EA accounts, and the one I made with my Gmail account does not have my GT on it, so I've been on hold with EA's support for 45 minutes waiting to get it switched over because the game is telling me the code is already in use.

You're doing this on purpose, aren't you?

You wish.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: JD on January 26, 2010, 05:36:53 PM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 04:39:03 PM
Quote from: JD on January 26, 2010, 04:18:57 PM
Quote from: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 03:48:10 PM
Note to whoever buys this game: Make sure you register your DLC codes with the EA account associated with your Gamertag.  I apparently had two EA accounts, and the one I made with my Gmail account does not have my GT on it, so I've been on hold with EA's support for 45 minutes waiting to get it switched over because the game is telling me the code is already in use.

You're doing this on purpose, aren't you?

You wish.

Oh, I wouldn't waste a wish on that, sugarplum.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: PenFoe on January 26, 2010, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Sadly I've play almost 54 hours at this point. I've just raised Liberty Prime but I'm going to travel around the Wasteland with Fawkes and try and discover all that I can and hopefully beat a lot of the side missions. Like Kerm, I'm a little achievement happy, so I'm going to try and get as many as I can.

So, you're telling us you're not the father, right?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Yeti on January 26, 2010, 06:24:23 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Quote from: Pre on January 26, 2010, 03:19:49 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 01:31:47 PM
I could play Fallout 3 for the next year and not get sick of it. So much fun. I'm going to rely on some good stories from you guys to let me know if this game is any good.

I felt that about it at first, but I hit a wall around 35 hours or so and just went
ahead and beat it (around 40 hours total).  Once you hit a certain level you just
destroy every thing ever once you look at it and so it got a little boring.

That said, I'm sure I could go back and focus on the half of the map I didn't get
to with a new character and enjoy it.

I'm looking forward to Mass Effect 2, but I just slogged through Dragon Age so
I need a break from Bioware.

Sadly I've play almost 54 hours at this point. I've just raised Liberty Prime but I'm going to travel around the Wasteland with Fawkes and try and discover all that I can and hopefully beat a lot of the side missions. Like Kerm, I'm a little achievement happy, so I'm going to try and get as many as I can.

This is kind of to Pre, too... One of the expansion packs extends the levels to 30.. I like that alot. I logged about 50 hours, and then I started over b/c I wasn't thrilled with my path (I wasn't aware of the 20 level cap) so I'm being a little smarter about perks and skill points
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on January 26, 2010, 06:37:17 PM
Back to Mass Effect 2....

I finally got the account changed, so I started up the game.  It turned out I didn't have a save file from when I beat the first game, so I had to go back and beat the end boss again.  It was a reminder of just how easy that game got towards the end.  Anyways, I imported my character to ME2 and it seems to transfer over some of the major plot points (your origin, whether or not Wrex/Kaiden/Ashley died), whether you were a Paragon or Renegade, and the credits and ore you mined in the first game.  You get the option to change your appearance/class.  I switched the default Shepard, and continued as a Soldier like I was in the first game.  I'm still in the prologue, but everything seems much more streamlined from the first game.  It plays more like a shooter, the AI is (mostly) smarter, issuing commands is much easier, and everything just seems a lot more polished.  I'm not sure what the default backstory is if you don't import your character, but I'd be interested to see how the game changes depending on how you played the first game.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Slaky on January 26, 2010, 07:19:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 26, 2010, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Sadly I've play almost 54 hours at this point. I've just raised Liberty Prime but I'm going to travel around the Wasteland with Fawkes and try and discover all that I can and hopefully beat a lot of the side missions. Like Kerm, I'm a little achievement happy, so I'm going to try and get as many as I can.

So, you're telling us you're not the father, right?

For the kid's sake, let's hope not.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: JD on January 26, 2010, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 07:19:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 26, 2010, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Sadly I've play almost 54 hours at this point. I've just raised Liberty Prime but I'm going to travel around the Wasteland with Fawkes and try and discover all that I can and hopefully beat a lot of the side missions. Like Kerm, I'm a little achievement happy, so I'm going to try and get as many as I can.

So, you're telling us you're not the father, right?

For the kid's sake, let's hope not.

CAN WE GET BACK ON SUBJECT?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on January 27, 2010, 07:54:46 AM
Quote from: JD on January 26, 2010, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 07:19:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 26, 2010, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Sadly I've play almost 54 hours at this point. I've just raised Liberty Prime but I'm going to travel around the Wasteland with Fawkes and try and discover all that I can and hopefully beat a lot of the side missions. Like Kerm, I'm a little achievement happy, so I'm going to try and get as many as I can.

So, you're telling us you're not the father, right?

For the kid's sake, let's hope not.

CAN WE GET BACK ON SUBJECT?

Fine.  Dirt 2 sucks.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Richard Chuggar on January 27, 2010, 08:15:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 27, 2010, 07:54:46 AM
Quote from: JD on January 26, 2010, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 07:19:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 26, 2010, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Sadly I've play almost 54 hours at this point. I've just raised Liberty Prime but I'm going to travel around the Wasteland with Fawkes and try and discover all that I can and hopefully beat a lot of the side missions. Like Kerm, I'm a little achievement happy, so I'm going to try and get as many as I can.

So, you're telling us you're not the father, right?

For the kid's sake, let's hope not.

CAN WE GET BACK ON SUBJECT?

Fine.  Dirt 2 sucks.

More or less than your ginormous signature?
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Slaky on January 27, 2010, 08:42:33 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 27, 2010, 08:15:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 27, 2010, 07:54:46 AM
Quote from: JD on January 26, 2010, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 07:19:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 26, 2010, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Sadly I've play almost 54 hours at this point. I've just raised Liberty Prime but I'm going to travel around the Wasteland with Fawkes and try and discover all that I can and hopefully beat a lot of the side missions. Like Kerm, I'm a little achievement happy, so I'm going to try and get as many as I can.

So, you're telling us you're not the father, right?

For the kid's sake, let's hope not.

CAN WE GET BACK ON SUBJECT?

Fine.  Dirt 2 sucks.

More or less than your ginormous signature?

Much less.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Eli on January 27, 2010, 10:30:24 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on January 27, 2010, 08:15:22 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 27, 2010, 07:54:46 AM
Quote from: JD on January 26, 2010, 08:21:53 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 07:19:07 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 26, 2010, 05:38:27 PM
Quote from: Slack-E on January 26, 2010, 03:31:53 PM
Sadly I've play almost 54 hours at this point. I've just raised Liberty Prime but I'm going to travel around the Wasteland with Fawkes and try and discover all that I can and hopefully beat a lot of the side missions. Like Kerm, I'm a little achievement happy, so I'm going to try and get as many as I can.

So, you're telling us you're not the father, right?

For the kid's sake, let's hope not.

CAN WE GET BACK ON SUBJECT?

Fine.  Dirt 2 sucks.

More or less than your ginormous signature?

Adblock fixes everything.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on January 27, 2010, 11:55:42 AM
You'll take my Saints celebratory sig image and like it, at least until the Super Bowl.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:50:23 PM
I agree with Weebs.  It's very good so far.  Much more shootery than the first one.  And it doesn't waste any time getting you right into the action.  If you don't remember much of the first one (as I didn't, really), it might be worth reading the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect#Plot).  You don't NEED the backstory of the first game, but it will certainly make the second one more interesting.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on January 28, 2010, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:50:23 PM
I agree with Weebs.  It's very good so far.  Much more shootery than the first one.  And it doesn't waste any time getting you right into the action.  If you don't remember much of the first one (as I didn't, really), it might be worth reading the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect#Plot).  You don't NEED the backstory of the first game, but it will certainly make the second one more interesting.

I'm not sure what difficulty you're playing on, but have you found the enemy AI to be incredibly powerful at times?  I think I'm still just getting used to the fact that this is much more of a cover shooter ala Gears of War than it is an RPG like the first one, but there have been a few spots so far where I've died 5 or 6 times before finally getting through a room.  Particularly, the Archangel mission was tough as hell at a few points.  Also, I wish they had done a little more to explain what the new guns actually do.  I got a new assault rifle and decided to try it out, but then right when I started the next fight, I found out it fired burst rounds and only had an ammo capacity of 139, as opposed to 400 for the default.  It still worked well, but considering they only let you change your weapons at a Weapon Loadout, it would be better to know exactly what you're using when you find something new.  Even still, this game is awesome.  Incredibly overwhelming in the sheer size of the world and dialog options, but awesome.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on January 28, 2010, 11:03:36 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 28, 2010, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:50:23 PM
I agree with Weebs.  It's very good so far.  Much more shootery than the first one.  And it doesn't waste any time getting you right into the action.  If you don't remember much of the first one (as I didn't, really), it might be worth reading the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect#Plot).  You don't NEED the backstory of the first game, but it will certainly make the second one more interesting.

I'm not sure what difficulty you're playing on, but have you found the enemy AI to be incredibly powerful at times?  I think I'm still just getting used to the fact that this is much more of a cover shooter ala Gears of War than it is an RPG like the first one, but there have been a few spots so far where I've died 5 or 6 times before finally getting through a room.  Particularly, the Archangel mission was tough as hell at a few points.  Also, I wish they had done a little more to explain what the new guns actually do.  I got a new assault rifle and decided to try it out, but then right when I started the next fight, I found out it fired burst rounds and only had an ammo capacity of 139, as opposed to 400 for the default.  It still worked well, but considering they only let you change your weapons at a Weapon Loadout, it would be better to know exactly what you're using when you find something new.  Even still, this game is awesome.  Incredibly overwhelming in the sheer size of the world and dialog options, but awesome.

I don't know what difficulty I'm playing on, but the fact that I've died at all means it's already more challenging than the first one.  I've died a couple of times after getting flanked by the enemy AI, but I don't think I'm as far into the game as you are.  My AI partners fight like warrior poets, I can tell you that much.  Did you get the doctor first?  They suggested doing that, because he can upgrade your weapons.  Plus, he talks CAH-RAZY!  Like a space alien!
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on January 28, 2010, 11:20:47 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 28, 2010, 11:03:36 AM
Quote from: Weebs on January 28, 2010, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on January 27, 2010, 12:50:23 PM
I agree with Weebs.  It's very good so far.  Much more shootery than the first one.  And it doesn't waste any time getting you right into the action.  If you don't remember much of the first one (as I didn't, really), it might be worth reading the Wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect#Plot).  You don't NEED the backstory of the first game, but it will certainly make the second one more interesting.

I'm not sure what difficulty you're playing on, but have you found the enemy AI to be incredibly powerful at times?  I think I'm still just getting used to the fact that this is much more of a cover shooter ala Gears of War than it is an RPG like the first one, but there have been a few spots so far where I've died 5 or 6 times before finally getting through a room.  Particularly, the Archangel mission was tough as hell at a few points.  Also, I wish they had done a little more to explain what the new guns actually do.  I got a new assault rifle and decided to try it out, but then right when I started the next fight, I found out it fired burst rounds and only had an ammo capacity of 139, as opposed to 400 for the default.  It still worked well, but considering they only let you change your weapons at a Weapon Loadout, it would be better to know exactly what you're using when you find something new.  Even still, this game is awesome.  Incredibly overwhelming in the sheer size of the world and dialog options, but awesome.

I don't know what difficulty I'm playing on, but the fact that I've died at all means it's already more challenging than the first one.  I've died a couple of times after getting flanked by the enemy AI, but I don't think I'm as far into the game as you are.  My AI partners fight like warrior poets, I can tell you that much.  Did you get the doctor first?  They suggested doing that, because he can upgrade your weapons.  Plus, he talks CAH-RAZY!  Like a space alien!

Yeah, I picked up the doctor and did the Archangel mission (won't spoil that one if you haven't played it), since they were both on Omega.  The doctor is pretty awesome.  I think I'm going to do the Convict mission next.  I just want to get the super cool Space Assassin.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Quality Start Machine on February 16, 2010, 08:06:17 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
I just beat it, too. 


We figured as much. But you didn't have to post about it.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.

I sent Tali through the vents, let Garrus lead each fire team, had Samara use the biotic field, and sent Zaeed to die escorting the people back (I really hate that guy and wanted him dead).  I think the problem is that I let Mordin lead the final team, and brought Garrus and Miranda with me.  I'm thinking about loading up my last save (which wasn't until right before I jumped through the Omega-4 Relay) and doing everything the same, except I'll send Garrus to lead the last team and bring Mordin with.  The key, other than having loyalty from everybody, seems to be sending a good tech user for the vents, biotic user for the shield, a good leader for the fire teams (so Miranda or Garrus), and then someone a little more powerful for the escort mission (Grunt would probably work).  I was reading about some of the alternate endings, how players can die, etc. and you can definitely have pretty much your entire crew, as well as Shepard, all die by the end of the mission.  It's pretty awesome, but I definitely don't want to go into Mass Effect 3 with Mordin being a corpse.  He's an awesome character.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: MAD on February 16, 2010, 11:15:03 AM
Will you guys stop whispering to each other?  You're making Mom's Basement gheyer than usual.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 11:44:10 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.

I sent Tali through the vents, let Garrus lead each fire team, had Samara use the biotic field, and sent Zaeed to die escorting the people back (I really hate that guy and wanted him dead).  I think the problem is that I let Mordin lead the final team, and brought Garrus and Miranda with me.  I'm thinking about loading up my last save (which wasn't until right before I jumped through the Omega-4 Relay) and doing everything the same, except I'll send Garrus to lead the last team and bring Mordin with.  The key, other than having loyalty from everybody, seems to be sending a good tech user for the vents, biotic user for the shield, a good leader for the fire teams (so Miranda or Garrus), and then someone a little more powerful for the escort mission (Grunt would probably work).  I was reading about some of the alternate endings, how players can die, etc. and you can definitely have pretty much your entire crew, as well as Shepard, all die by the end of the mission.  It's pretty awesome, but I definitely don't want to go into Mass Effect 3 with Mordin being a corpse.  He's an awesome character.

Yeah, Zaeed sucks.  I forgot about the biotic one.  I used Samara, and she obviously made it through.  I must have gotten lucky picking Mordin for the escort mission.  I actually sent him because I didn't think he WAS that strong, so I figured I wouldn't need him as much for the rest of the game.  I wonder what happens when you leave the rest of your crew to die.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 11:44:53 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 16, 2010, 11:15:03 AM
Will you guys stop whispering to each other?  You're making Mom's Basement gheyer than usual.

These are spoilers.

This is whispering.
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 11:44:10 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.

I sent Tali through the vents, let Garrus lead each fire team, had Samara use the biotic field, and sent Zaeed to die escorting the people back (I really hate that guy and wanted him dead).  I think the problem is that I let Mordin lead the final team, and brought Garrus and Miranda with me.  I'm thinking about loading up my last save (which wasn't until right before I jumped through the Omega-4 Relay) and doing everything the same, except I'll send Garrus to lead the last team and bring Mordin with.  The key, other than having loyalty from everybody, seems to be sending a good tech user for the vents, biotic user for the shield, a good leader for the fire teams (so Miranda or Garrus), and then someone a little more powerful for the escort mission (Grunt would probably work).  I was reading about some of the alternate endings, how players can die, etc. and you can definitely have pretty much your entire crew, as well as Shepard, all die by the end of the mission.  It's pretty awesome, but I definitely don't want to go into Mass Effect 3 with Mordin being a corpse.  He's an awesome character.

Yeah, Zaeed sucks.  I forgot about the biotic one.  I used Samara, and she obviously made it through.  I must have gotten lucky picking Mordin for the escort mission.  I actually sent him because I didn't think he WAS that strong, so I figured I wouldn't need him as much for the rest of the game.  I wonder what happens when you leave the rest of your crew to die.

I'm guessing pretty much everyone survives the escort mission if they're loyal.  I was a dick to Zaeed during his loyalty mission, so he didn't want to be my friend.  He paid the price.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could end the game with basically nobody left alive.  I know both your teammates can die after the final boss fight, someone can die in the vent, during the biotic part, in the escort mission, in the fire team, when you pass through the relay...pretty much at any point.  And it's possible to have Shepard die during that final jump onto the shuttle.  He tells Joker to let go, falls to his death, and then Joker is the one talking to the Illusive Man at the end.  Of course, I'm sure they'd somehow "rebuild" Shepard again in Mass Effect 3 if you get that ending. 
Title: Re: Mass Effect 2
Post by: Richard Chuggar on February 16, 2010, 02:03:59 PM
Quote from: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 01:32:23 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 11:44:10 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 16, 2010, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 16, 2010, 09:39:04 AM
Quote from: Weebs on February 15, 2010, 05:53:11 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 15, 2010, 09:30:10 AM
I finished ME2 this weekend.  The ending has a big-budget Hollywood movie feel to it, even if the end "boss" is a tad ridiculous.  I'm thinking of playing it through again on Renegade.  It's one of the best games I've ever played.  I highly recommend it.

I just beat it, too.  Definitely an epic ending, and I agree that the end boss is very over-the-top.  I'm really curious to see the different outcomes based on your team's loyalty, what ship upgrades you got, etc.  I survived everything, then purposely sent Zaeed to help Dr. Chawkwas, assuming he would die.  He did.  I was glad.  What I was not happy about, however, was the fact that Mordin died for no reason.  I had his loyalty, as well as everyone else's on the crew, but somehow he died during the firefight at the end.  Couldn't they have picked Jacob, or Legion, or some other character that wasn't as unbelievably awesome as Mordin?  They should just rebuild him in Mass Effect 3.

That's interesting about Mordin.  Since who you pick has an outcome on the ending, I'm going to SPOILERS this:

At first, I picked Thane to go through the vents, figuring he was going to die soon, anyhow, and not thinking that if I sent a tech person, they might make it through unscathed.  I sent Miranda on both leadership missions, and I sent Mordin to bring the rest of the crew back to the Normandy.  For the final mission, I brought Miranda and Garrus with me.  Thane died, and everyone else survived.  I had a save right before the ending, so I tried it again with everything the same, but this time I sent Tali'Zorah through the vents, and everyone lived.

I sent Tali through the vents, let Garrus lead each fire team, had Samara use the biotic field, and sent Zaeed to die escorting the people back (I really hate that guy and wanted him dead).  I think the problem is that I let Mordin lead the final team, and brought Garrus and Miranda with me.  I'm thinking about loading up my last save (which wasn't until right before I jumped through the Omega-4 Relay) and doing everything the same, except I'll send Garrus to lead the last team and bring Mordin with.  The key, other than having loyalty from everybody, seems to be sending a good tech user for the vents, biotic user for the shield, a good leader for the fire teams (so Miranda or Garrus), and then someone a little more powerful for the escort mission (Grunt would probably work).  I was reading about some of the alternate endings, how players can die, etc. and you can definitely have pretty much your entire crew, as well as Shepard, all die by the end of the mission.  It's pretty awesome, but I definitely don't want to go into Mass Effect 3 with Mordin being a corpse.  He's an awesome character.

Yeah, Zaeed sucks.  I forgot about the biotic one.  I used Samara, and she obviously made it through.  I must have gotten lucky picking Mordin for the escort mission.  I actually sent him because I didn't think he WAS that strong, so I figured I wouldn't need him as much for the rest of the game.  I wonder what happens when you leave the rest of your crew to die.

I'm guessing pretty much everyone survives the escort mission if they're loyal.  I was a dick to Zaeed during his loyalty mission, so he didn't want to be my friend.  He paid the price.

I wouldn't be surprised if you could end the game with basically nobody left alive.  I know both your teammates can die after the final boss fight, someone can die in the vent, during the biotic part, in the escort mission, in the fire team, when you pass through the relay...pretty much at any point.  And it's possible to have Shepard die during that final jump onto the shuttle.  He tells Joker to let go, falls to his death, and then Joker is the one talking to the Illusive Man at the end.  Of course, I'm sure they'd somehow "rebuild" Shepard again in Mass Effect 3 if you get that ending. 

SPOILER ALERT:

YOU CAN'T FUCKING SPOIL VIDEO GAMES.