I want this party started right. I want this party started quickly.
(http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/Starlin%20Castro.jpg)
He gonna suck
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
So, in your eyes, you're saying he's nothing like Alexei Ramirez?
I'm suddenly optimistic.
Quote from: Pre on February 18, 2010, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
So, in your eyes, you're saying he's nothing like Alexei Ramirez?
I'm suddenly optimistic.
I just have a FEELING. I don't know what he looks like in my eyes as I don't recall seeing a picture of him. I couldn't tell him from Alexei in my eyes. They're both Cuban or something.
Please be good, please be good, please be good...
Yeti, I swear to God if he doesn't suck and you ever cheer for him I will treat you like a common Fro Dog for the rest of your life.
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 09:07:57 AM
Quote from: Pre on February 18, 2010, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
So, in your eyes, you're saying he's nothing like Alexei Ramirez?
I'm suddenly optimistic.
I just have a FEELING. I don't know what he looks like in my eyes as I don't recall seeing a picture of him. I couldn't tell him from Alexei in my eyes. They're both Cuban or something.
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.0
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 18, 2010, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 09:07:57 AM
Quote from: Pre on February 18, 2010, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
So, in your eyes, you're saying he's nothing like Alexei Ramirez?
I'm suddenly optimistic.
I just have a FEELING. I don't know what he looks like in my eyes as I don't recall seeing a picture of him. I couldn't tell him from Alexei in my eyes. They're both Cuban or something.
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.0
He looks 14
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 09:23:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 18, 2010, 09:22:13 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 09:07:57 AM
Quote from: Pre on February 18, 2010, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
So, in your eyes, you're saying he's nothing like Alexei Ramirez?
I'm suddenly optimistic.
I just have a FEELING. I don't know what he looks like in my eyes as I don't recall seeing a picture of him. I couldn't tell him from Alexei in my eyes. They're both Cuban or something.
http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.0
He looks 14
You look 44.
Quote from: Yeti on February 18, 2010, 09:23:36 AM
He looks 14
Well, he's only 19, so you're not that far off.
(http://mcstinx.mlblogs.com/pie.jpg)
(http://www.thediamondangle.com/archive/aug02/cubs/corey4.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Vsj3lDzSrFE/SrYuqKs0dnI/AAAAAAAAAgI/T_AbJS5fiws/s320/dunston.jpg)
(http://imagesource.allposters.com/images/pic/PHO/AAEO034~Ernie-Banks-Fielding-Photofile-Posters.jpg)
(http://sportsmansdaily.com/thescrum/wp-content/zambrano.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ki5EPOdCHyM/SiByKhF6ihI/AAAAAAAACuU/__xXuoqlVnU/s400/0421_marisa-miller-cubs-08.jpg)
(http://cdn.faniq.com/images/blog/377187c29ca25168e0631b85a274acf8.jpg)
(http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Fidel-Castro.jpg)
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 18, 2010, 11:19:50 AM
(http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Fidel-Castro.jpg)
Has he died yet?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 18, 2010, 11:41:50 AM
Quote from: Kermit IV on February 18, 2010, 11:19:50 AM
(http://www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Fidel-Castro.jpg)
Has he died yet?
Yes. But he hasn't announced it in a speech yet.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on February 18, 2010, 09:30:32 AM
(http://mcstinx.mlblogs.com/pie.jpg)
COBRA PIE
I still have faith that this will be good Pie.
You and me both, JD.
You and me both.
He's going to be 25 and has been improving. No idea if he'll pull it all together,
but he's got time to improve to avoid being a bust.
Just give him 100 games.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 18, 2010, 08:24:49 AM
I want this party started right. I want this party started quickly.
(http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/Starlin%20Castro.jpg)
I can't wait to start booing him the minute he goes 0fer. He's stealing theriot's spot!
I'm not sold on Castro as a viable Major League option. Don't shoot me. Woah man, don't fuckin' shoot me! Wait till I'm done before the statfags skewer me with pitchforks.
I think us Cubs fans are deluded into wishful thinking, much like we were with Felix Pie. The holes in Pie's game were there, we all saw them. We chose to ignore them, because he was Felix Pie, Cub prospect extraordinaire, and this time was going to be different, dammit. This time a Cubs prospect would be a fleeting success instead of a faltering suckass. But, it was not to be. Pie sucked, we learned the taste of hate, and he was summarily shipped out the door.
Sure, I hope this guy succeeds. But its hard to ignore his current shortcomings in maturity (all of 19 years old) and skill (more E than BB). Let him cook a few years.
Ok, I'm ready now.
Quote from: Simmer on February 19, 2010, 12:05:30 PM
I'm not sold on Castro as a viable Major League option. Don't shoot me. Woah man, don't fuckin' shoot me! Wait till I'm done before the statfags skewer me with pitchforks.
I think us Cubs fans are deluded into wishful thinking, much like we were with Felix Pie. The holes in Pie's game were there, we all saw them. We chose to ignore them, because he was Felix Pie, Cub prospect extraordinaire, and this time was going to be different, dammit. This time a Cubs prospect would be a fleeting success instead of a faltering suckass. But, it was not to be. Pie sucked, we learned the taste of hate, and he was summarily shipped out the door.
Sure, I hope this guy succeeds. But its hard to ignore his current shortcomings in maturity (all of 19 years old) and skill (more E than BB). Let him cook a few years.
Ok, I'm ready now.
I think the vast majority of us agree with you and this thread is more of a joke than anything.
(http://www.meetmaddenporn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/meetmaddenblondeamateurlovesthecubs.jpg)
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 12:12:36 PM
(http://www.meetmaddenporn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/meetmaddenblondeamateurlovesthecubs.jpg)
I think I just sprung a woody
Quote from: Yeti on February 19, 2010, 12:18:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 12:12:36 PM
(http://www.meetmaddenporn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/meetmaddenblondeamateurlovesthecubs.jpg)
I think I just sprung a woody
Why, is there a hyperlink to ACB hidden on that pic?
Quote from: Jon on February 19, 2010, 12:21:15 PM
Quote from: Yeti on February 19, 2010, 12:18:53 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on February 19, 2010, 12:12:36 PM
(http://www.meetmaddenporn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/meetmaddenblondeamateurlovesthecubs.jpg)
I think I just sprung a woody
Why, is there a hyperlink to ACB hidden on that pic?
I don't know why you chose to use "hyperlink" over regular ole "link," but it made me LOL.
If there are naked pics of this cutie we NEED links plz.
Rocketing up the prospect charts! (http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=7962336&content_id=7150953)
I enjoy that his highlights mostly involve bloop singles. Shows some
serious grit.
Quote from: Pre on February 23, 2010, 12:47:16 PM
Rocketing up the prospect charts! (http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?topic_id=7962336&content_id=7150953)
I enjoy that his highlights mostly involve bloop singles. Shows some
serious grit.
He's no Eric Byrnes, but I'll take it.
Quote from: WTB...A RING FFS!! on February 22, 2010, 03:44:39 PM
If there are naked pics of this cutie we NEED links plz.
Probably NSFW.
http://www.nikkiscash.com/galleries/MeetMadden/MaddenCubs/index.php?id=1900656
Rotoworld DOOM.
"Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports that "an official involved in the Felipe Lopez bidding" believes he will sign with the Cardinals.
This isn't surprising. The Cardinals are monitoring the progress of Brendan Ryan's wrist closely, and while they'd like to consider internal options if he isn't ready, they'd be silly not to consider Lopez if the price is right. The Padres are the only other team known to be in the mix for the 29-year-old, though it is unlikely they make much of an offer. Feb. 23 - 4:26 pm et
Source: Buster Olney on Twitter "
Left to right, 2010. Fontenot at short (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0224-cubs-bits-chicago-spring-trai20100223,0,292835.story), Starlin at 2B.
Is putting a short guy at short the same as batting a second baseman second?
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 09:45:59 AM
Left to right, 2010. Fontenot at short (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0224-cubs-bits-chicago-spring-trai20100223,0,292835.story), Starlin at 2B.
QuoteBut the Cubs love the idea of having Millar around to be Millar, the life of the clubhouse.
Then hire him as a fucking ball boy. I've never hated a Cub so completely before a single AB.
Quote from: Pre on February 24, 2010, 09:56:44 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 09:45:59 AM
Left to right, 2010. Fontenot at short (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0224-cubs-bits-chicago-spring-trai20100223,0,292835.story), Starlin at 2B.
QuoteBut the Cubs love the idea of having Millar around to be Millar, the life of the clubhouse.
Then hire him as a fucking ball boy. I've never hated a Cub so completely before a single AB.
I hated him quite a bit when he was actually considered a major league caliber ballplayer. This is nothing new for me.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 24, 2010, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: Pre on February 24, 2010, 09:56:44 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 09:45:59 AM
Left to right, 2010. Fontenot at short (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0224-cubs-bits-chicago-spring-trai20100223,0,292835.story), Starlin at 2B.
QuoteBut the Cubs love the idea of having Millar around to be Millar, the life of the clubhouse.
Then hire him as a fucking ball boy. I've never hated a Cub so completely before a single AB.
I hated him quite a bit when he was actually considered a major league caliber ballplayer. This is nothing new for me.
I trace my hatred to the seventh game of his MLB career. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN199905240.shtml)
I had a lot of other hate in my blood at the time: Rick Aguilera, Ed Lynch, Andy MacPhail, Sammy Sosa's clown act in right playing a double into a 3-run inside the park home run with 2 outs in the ninth, half of the members of the 1999 Cubs, so little did I know I would continue hating him for 11 more years.
I've hated Millar ever since Al said we "gotta get that guy" a few years ago for his clubhouse presence.
MY KUBBEEZ NEED TO KOWBOY UP IN 2010!
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:13:34 AM
I've hated Millar ever since Al said we "gotta get that guy" a few years ago for his clubhouse presence.
MY KUBBEEZ NEED TO KOWBOY UP IN 2010!
Few years ago? That gives him some credit for when Millar was a baseball player. Al suggested it after 2008.
Quote from: Yeti on February 24, 2010, 10:14:35 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:13:34 AM
I've hated Millar ever since Al said we "gotta get that guy" a few years ago for his clubhouse presence.
MY KUBBEEZ NEED TO KOWBOY UP IN 2010!
Few years ago? That gives him some credit for when Millar was a baseball player. Al suggested it after 2008.
I'll defer to you on any BCB related facts.
Millar, I'm assuming, used to play the game the right way.
Have we heard any reports out of Spring Training on whether or not he still does?
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:21:52 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 24, 2010, 10:14:35 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:13:34 AM
I've hated Millar ever since Al said we "gotta get that guy" a few years ago for his clubhouse presence.
MY KUBBEEZ NEED TO KOWBOY UP IN 2010!
Few years ago? That gives him some credit for when Millar was a baseball player. Al suggested it after 2008.
I'll defer to you on any BCB related facts.
Millar, I'm assuming, used to play the game the right way.
Have we heard any reports out of Spring Training on whether or not he still does?
What are the odds he slides headfirst into first base at least once during spring training?
Quote from: Slack-E on February 24, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:21:52 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 24, 2010, 10:14:35 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:13:34 AM
I've hated Millar ever since Al said we "gotta get that guy" a few years ago for his clubhouse presence.
MY KUBBEEZ NEED TO KOWBOY UP IN 2010!
Few years ago? That gives him some credit for when Millar was a baseball player. Al suggested it after 2008.
I'll defer to you on any BCB related facts.
Millar, I'm assuming, used to play the game the right way.
Have we heard any reports out of Spring Training on whether or not he still does?
What are the odds he slides headfirst into first base at least once during spring training?
And risk injury? Good idea. He's due for a career year in the clubhouse. A broken clavical could park his fat ass in there indefinitely. And we'd never have to see him. He could just entertain Derrek and Aramis while making Dempste extremely jealous - enough to pitch with a chip on his shoulder and kick some serious ass. Kow. Boi. Up.
Quote from: Slack-E on February 24, 2010, 10:23:42 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:21:52 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 24, 2010, 10:14:35 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 10:13:34 AM
I've hated Millar ever since Al said we "gotta get that guy" a few years ago for his clubhouse presence.
MY KUBBEEZ NEED TO KOWBOY UP IN 2010!
Few years ago? That gives him some credit for when Millar was a baseball player. Al suggested it after 2008.
I'll defer to you on any BCB related facts.
Millar, I'm assuming, used to play the game the right way.
Have we heard any reports out of Spring Training on whether or not he still does?
What are the odds he slides headfirst into first base at least once during spring training?
I put the over/under at 3 to 1.
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 10:09:53 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 24, 2010, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: Pre on February 24, 2010, 09:56:44 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 09:45:59 AM
Left to right, 2010. Fontenot at short (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0224-cubs-bits-chicago-spring-trai20100223,0,292835.story), Starlin at 2B.
QuoteBut the Cubs love the idea of having Millar around to be Millar, the life of the clubhouse.
Then hire him as a fucking ball boy. I've never hated a Cub so completely before a single AB.
I hated him quite a bit when he was actually considered a major league caliber ballplayer. This is nothing new for me.
I trace my hatred to the seventh game of his MLB career. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN199905240.shtml)
I had a lot of other hate in my blood at the time: Rick Aguilera, Ed Lynch, Andy MacPhail, Sammy Sosa's clown act in right playing a double into a 3-run inside the park home run with 2 outs in the ninth, half of the members of the 1999 Cubs, so little did I know I would continue hating him for 11 more years.
I vented this very thing in the ShoutBox a few weeks ago. ThrillSignal even found me what I was looking for--proof that his asshattery even pissed off the guy for whom he's supposedly going to be playing behind--Derreck Lee--during that '99 season.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 10:28:11 AM
Quote from: Brownie on February 24, 2010, 10:09:53 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on February 24, 2010, 09:58:31 AM
Quote from: Pre on February 24, 2010, 09:56:44 AM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 09:45:59 AM
Left to right, 2010. Fontenot at short (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/ct-spt-0224-cubs-bits-chicago-spring-trai20100223,0,292835.story), Starlin at 2B.
QuoteBut the Cubs love the idea of having Millar around to be Millar, the life of the clubhouse.
Then hire him as a fucking ball boy. I've never hated a Cub so completely before a single AB.
I hated him quite a bit when he was actually considered a major league caliber ballplayer. This is nothing new for me.
I trace my hatred to the seventh game of his MLB career. (http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN199905240.shtml)
I had a lot of other hate in my blood at the time: Rick Aguilera, Ed Lynch, Andy MacPhail, Sammy Sosa's clown act in right playing a double into a 3-run inside the park home run with 2 outs in the ninth, half of the members of the 1999 Cubs, so little did I know I would continue hating him for 11 more years.
I vented this very thing in the ShoutBox a few weeks ago. ThrillSignal even found me what I was looking for--proof that his asshattery even pissed off the guy for whom he's supposedly going to be playing behind--Derreck Lee--during that '99 season.
What Huey means to say is: "I trace my hatred to his time with the AAA Calgary Cannons (http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1999-05-16/sports/9905150175_1_astros-curse-three-game-sweep/3)":
QuoteBrash bush-leaguer
Florida Marlins prospect Kevin Millar failed to make the club's major-league roster for the second spring in a row this year, but he probably made some organizational enemies when he popped off to the Calgary Herald after hitting a home run to lead the red-hot Triple-A Calgary Cannons to a 13-12 victory last week.
`I'm calling ESPN," Millar said. "We're challenging the Marlins to a seven-game series, and the winner stays. We'd beat them in six games."
The Marlins are taking enough heat from the rest of the baseball world for their lackluster performance again this year, so the tongue-in-cheek comments touched a nerve.
"If it's accurate, it's an inappropriate comment," said Marlins GM Dave Dombrowski, "but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as to whether or not he said it."
Millar, perhaps realizing that he had gone too far, called Dombrowski and manager John Boles to apologize and insist that the quotes were taken out of context.
Later, Millar got the call up, with Lee getting sent down to Calgary.
Not included: Derriek Lee being all asshurt at the guy who he now refers to as "funniest man I've met".
He's a chodefart and he'll be loved here.
Are the multiple variant spellings of Lee's first name intentional or due to a new HUEYBOARD?
Quote from: Jon on February 24, 2010, 11:30:06 AM
Are the multiple variant spellings of Lee's first name intentional or due to a new HUEYBOARD?
Side effects to MILLAR RAGE.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 24, 2010, 11:30:06 AM
Are the multiple variant spellings of Lee's first name intentional or due to a new HUEYBOARD?
Side effects to MILLAR RAGE.
Fucking scabs will do that to ya.
SCAB!!
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 24, 2010, 11:30:06 AM
Are the multiple variant spellings of Lee's first name intentional or due to a new HUEYBOARD?
Side effects to MILLAR RAGE.
Fucking scabs will do that to ya.
SCAB!!
Are you accusing Huey of cheating on his wife with Kevin Millar?
Quote from: Oleg on February 24, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 24, 2010, 11:30:06 AM
Are the multiple variant spellings of Lee's first name intentional or due to a new HUEYBOARD?
Side effects to MILLAR RAGE.
Fucking scabs will do that to ya.
SCAB!!
Are you accusing Huey of cheating on his wife with Kevin Millar?
That's EXACTLY what I'm doing. You got that, Huey! I'm calling you out.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 12:11:59 PM
Quote from: Oleg on February 24, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 24, 2010, 11:30:06 AM
Are the multiple variant spellings of Lee's first name intentional or due to a new HUEYBOARD?
Side effects to MILLAR RAGE.
Fucking scabs will do that to ya.
SCAB!!
Are you accusing Huey of cheating on his wife with Kevin Millar?
That's EXACTLY what I'm doing. You got that, Huey! I'm calling you out.
I'm trying to cover up my affair with Kevin Millar by HATING HIM WITH EVERY INCH OF MY BLACK SOUL?
I'll go with it.
Quote from: Oleg on February 24, 2010, 12:08:26 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on February 24, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 11:31:06 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 24, 2010, 11:30:06 AM
Are the multiple variant spellings of Lee's first name intentional or due to a new HUEYBOARD?
Side effects to MILLAR RAGE.
Fucking scabs will do that to ya.
SCAB!!
Are you accusing Huey of cheating on his wife with Kevin Millar?
Why would a clubhouse celebrity like Millar spend time with Huey?
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
I'll be sure to let you all know how good he is after I take a look at his career after it's over.
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
Garry Templeton was the "ringleader" of the "We're down 2-0...we're not out of it" crowd after San Diego lost their first two games during the 1984 NLCS. My lasting image of him is of him riling up that crowd of surfing asshats before Game 3.
He may well be best known, widely, as the guy that San Diego felt was worth the price of Ozzie Smith.
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
Starlin Glasscock?
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
That list is rife with phallicism.
Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell?
Bill James is a pervert.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
That list is rife with phallicism.
Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell?
Bill James is a pervert.
HAAAA!!! Get it? Dave Bancroft? I don't.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 24, 2010, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
That list is rife with phallicism.
Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell?
Bill James is a pervert.
HAAAA!!! Get it? Dave Bancroft? I don't.
Suck my Bancroft, pal.
When you say it it sounds like "bang". Banging typically involves hard weiners.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 24, 2010, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
That list is rife with phallicism.
Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell?
Bill James is a pervert.
HAAAA!!! Get it? Dave Bancroft? I don't.
Suck my Bancroft, pal.
When you say it it sounds like "bang". Banging typically involves hard weiners.
Ban Croft, let's see. Add nasally Chicago assclown inflection: BAYANGCRAFT? I guess.
And Croft, as we all know is German for, "The Crank of Christ," which usually involves Chris Getz.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 24, 2010, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
That list is rife with phallicism.
Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell?
Bill James is a pervert.
HAAAA!!! Get it? Dave Bancroft? I don't.
Suck my Bancroft, pal.
When you say it it sounds like "bang". Banging typically involves hard weiners.
That's quite a stretch. Good effort though.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 24, 2010, 01:16:17 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
That list is rife with phallicism.
Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell?
Bill James is a pervert.
HAAAA!!! Get it? Dave Bancroft? I don't.
Here I was thinking the word "Dave" was funny. Shows you what I know.
I have always gotten a titter out of "Gevertztrameiner"
I also get a titter out of "Titter"
I see nothing wrong with comparing a 19 year old's minor league stats with those of major leaguers with long careers and coming up with such a comparison.
It's science.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
I was sick for half a fucking day. Where were Tank and Jon on this? How many potential Simpson's references fell by the wayside in my absence?
Anyway, I'm just glad Mr. Glasscock was able to catch on with a major league team after he left the teaching profession.
Dave Bancroft, indeed. You've all got some serious boning to do.
Quote from: CT III on February 26, 2010, 12:37:22 AM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
I was sick for half a fucking day. Where were Tank and Jon on this? How many potential Simpson's references fell by the wayside in my absence?
Anyway, I'm just glad Mr. Glasscock was able to catch on with a major league team after he left the teaching profession.
Dave Bancroft, indeed. You've all got some serious boning to do.
Sure, we have order.
But at what price?!
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
This is probably rhetorical but it won't be the first time in Desip history that I've missed the point...
Andrew Jackson.
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
This is probably rhetorical but it won't be the first time in Desip history that I've missed the point...
Andrew Jackson.
I'm sorry.
The answer we were looking for was "The Battle of New Orleans."
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
(http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/hoosiers.jpg)
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
This is probably rhetorical but it won't be the first time in Desip history that I've missed the point...
Andrew Jackson.
I'm sorry.
The answer we were looking for was "The Battle of New Orleans."
Yea, I must've missed something on that last page.. Predictable.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
This is probably rhetorical but it won't be the first time in Desip history that I've missed the point...
Andrew Jackson.
I'm sorry.
The answer we were looking for was "The Battle of New Orleans."
Well, you're earning your eighteen grand a year.
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:33:18 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
This is probably rhetorical but it won't be the first time in Desip history that I've missed the point...
Andrew Jackson.
I'm sorry.
The answer we were looking for was "The Battle of New Orleans."
Yea, I must've missed something on that last page.. Predictable. What's a battle?
What's that rattle?'d
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:33:18 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
This is probably rhetorical but it won't be the first time in Desip history that I've missed the point...
Andrew Jackson.
I'm sorry.
The answer we were looking for was "The Battle of New Orleans."
Yea, I must've missed something on that last page.. Predictable. What's a battle?
What's that rattle?'d
I have a cold.
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:55:37 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:33:18 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
This is probably rhetorical but it won't be the first time in Desip history that I've missed the point...
Andrew Jackson.
I'm sorry.
The answer we were looking for was "The Battle of New Orleans."
Yea, I must've missed something on that last page.. Predictable. What's a battle?
What's that rattle?'d
I have a cold.
Oh, so you hear your "b's" as "r's"?
Quote from: CT III on February 26, 2010, 10:00:35 AM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 09:55:37 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 09:53:27 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:33:18 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 09:30:03 AM
Quote from: Yeti on February 26, 2010, 09:19:51 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
This is probably rhetorical but it won't be the first time in Desip history that I've missed the point...
Andrew Jackson.
I'm sorry.
The answer we were looking for was "The Battle of New Orleans."
Yea, I must've missed something on that last page.. Predictable. What's a battle?
What's that rattle?'d
I have a cold.
Oh, so you hear your "b's" as "r's"?
...
.....
...
Yes.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 26, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
(http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/hoosiers.jpg)
That old gym in Crawfordsville where they filmed a bunch of that movie; I used to run and shoot hoops and workout in it when I was sports editor at the paper there. It was probably the lowest point of my entire life, which is saying something because my life is complete shit now that Robbie Hummel is injured.
Quote from: Internet Apex on February 26, 2010, 11:05:59 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on February 26, 2010, 09:32:00 AM
Quote from: Indolent Reader on February 26, 2010, 09:09:56 AM
What nineteenth century figure was named "Old Hickory"?
(http://www.overthinkingit.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/hoosiers.jpg)
That old gym in Crawfordsville where they filmed a bunch of that movie; I used to run and shoot hoops and workout in it when I was sports editor at the paper there. It was probably the lowest point of my entire life, which is saying something because my life is complete shit now that Robbie Hummel is injured.
Even BC thinks this post is sad.
Quote from: Andy on February 24, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
I see nothing wrong with comparing a 19 year old's minor league stats with those of major leaguers with long careers and coming up with such a comparison.
It's science.
I sense your green font, and your stick in the mud old timey ways are a joke old man.
See, you grew up in the Space Age. You dreamed of colonizing Mars and boning hot
blue alien chicks. And your generation blew it. You wasted untold resources and
destroyed our environment and the closest you came to your goals was to shoot a fucking
probe out of the solar system and then make a jerk off sci fi movie about it coming back
with some aliens.
We've moved on from your mistakes. We're in the Information Age now gramps. We
use computers to make money instead of creating nuclear waste all over the place and
we wear jeans while we do it. And if a computer tells you that Starlin fucking Castro
(we curse all the time now, too) is destined for greatness because at age 18 he hit
.311/.364/.464 and Jose Reyes hit .307/.337/.472 at the same age, then you sure as
shit know that he's going to do it.
STAY OFF MY LAWN!
Quote from: Pre on February 26, 2010, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 24, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
I see nothing wrong with comparing a 19 year old's minor league stats with those of major leaguers with long careers and coming up with such a comparison.
It's science.
I sense your green font, and your stick in the mud old timey ways are a joke old man.
See, you grew up in the Space Age. You dreamed of colonizing Mars and boning hot
blue alien chicks. And your generation blew it. You wasted untold resources and
destroyed our environment and the closest you came to your goals was to shoot a fucking
probe out of the solar system and then make a jerk off sci fi movie about it coming back
with some aliens.
We've moved on from your mistakes. We're in the Information Age now gramps. We
use computers to make money instead of creating nuclear waste all over the place and
we wear jeans while we do it. And if a computer tells you that Starlin fucking Castro
(we curse all the time now, too) is destined for greatness because at age 18 he hit
.311/.364/.464 and Jose Reyes hit .307/.337/.472 at the same age, then you sure as
shit know that he's going to do it.
You are my hero.
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Pre on February 26, 2010, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 24, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
I see nothing wrong with comparing a 19 year old's minor league stats with those of major leaguers with long careers and coming up with such a comparison.
It's science.
I sense your green font, and your stick in the mud old timey ways are a joke old man.
See, you grew up in the Space Age. You dreamed of colonizing Mars and boning hot
blue alien chicks. And your generation blew it. You wasted untold resources and
destroyed our environment and the closest you came to your goals was to shoot a fucking
probe out of the solar system and then make a jerk off sci fi movie about it coming back
with some aliens.
We've moved on from your mistakes. We're in the Information Age now gramps. We
use computers to make money instead of creating nuclear waste all over the place and
we wear jeans while we do it. And if a computer tells you that Starlin fucking Castro
(we curse all the time now, too) is destined for greatness because at age 18 he hit
.311/.364/.464 and Jose Reyes hit .307/.337/.472 at the same age, then you sure as
shit know that he's going to do it.
You are my hero. doppelgänger.
Based on my drunken recollection of the last Kitty's get-together'd.
Quote from: MAD on February 26, 2010, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Pre on February 26, 2010, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 24, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
I see nothing wrong with comparing a 19 year old's minor league stats with those of major leaguers with long careers and coming up with such a comparison.
It's science.
I sense your green font, and your stick in the mud old timey ways are a joke old man.
See, you grew up in the Space Age. You dreamed of colonizing Mars and boning hot
blue alien chicks. And your generation blew it. You wasted untold resources and
destroyed our environment and the closest you came to your goals was to shoot a fucking
probe out of the solar system and then make a jerk off sci fi movie about it coming back
with some aliens.
We've moved on from your mistakes. We're in the Information Age now gramps. We
use computers to make money instead of creating nuclear waste all over the place and
we wear jeans while we do it. And if a computer tells you that Starlin fucking Castro
(we curse all the time now, too) is destined for greatness because at age 18 he hit
.311/.364/.464 and Jose Reyes hit .307/.337/.472 at the same age, then you sure as
shit know that he's going to do it.
You are my hero. doppelgänger.
Based on my drunken recollection of last Kitty's'd.
Only if I stood on a chair and was allergic to wheat.
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 12:23:55 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 26, 2010, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 26, 2010, 12:20:27 PM
Quote from: Pre on February 26, 2010, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 24, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
I see nothing wrong with comparing a 19 year old's minor league stats with those of major leaguers with long careers and coming up with such a comparison.
It's science.
I sense your green font, and your stick in the mud old timey ways are a joke old man.
See, you grew up in the Space Age. You dreamed of colonizing Mars and boning hot
blue alien chicks. And your generation blew it. You wasted untold resources and
destroyed our environment and the closest you came to your goals was to shoot a fucking
probe out of the solar system and then make a jerk off sci fi movie about it coming back
with some aliens.
We've moved on from your mistakes. We're in the Information Age now gramps. We
use computers to make money instead of creating nuclear waste all over the place and
we wear jeans while we do it. And if a computer tells you that Starlin fucking Castro
(we curse all the time now, too) is destined for greatness because at age 18 he hit
.311/.364/.464 and Jose Reyes hit .307/.337/.472 at the same age, then you sure as
shit know that he's going to do it.
You are my hero. doppelgänger.
Based on my drunken recollection of last Kitty's'd.
Only if I stood on a chair and was allergic to wheat.
And if Pre were cool enough to have worn a kick-ass Piggly Wiggly t-shirt.
Quote from: Pre on February 26, 2010, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 24, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
I see nothing wrong with comparing a 19 year old's minor league stats with those of major leaguers with long careers and coming up with such a comparison.
It's science.
I sense your green font, and your stick in the mud old timey ways are a joke old man.
See, you grew up in the Space Age. You dreamed of colonizing Mars and boning hot
blue alien chicks. And your generation blew it. You wasted untold resources and
destroyed our environment and the closest you came to your goals was to shoot a fucking
probe out of the solar system and then make a jerk off sci fi movie about it coming back
with some aliens.
We've moved on from your mistakes. We're in the Information Age now gramps. We
use computers to make money instead of creating nuclear waste all over the place and
we wear jeans while we do it. And if a computer tells you that Starlin fucking Castro
(we curse all the time now, too) is destined for greatness because at age 18 he hit
.311/.364/.464 and Jose Reyes hit .307/.337/.472 at the same age, then you sure as
shit know that he's going to do it.
That post was awesome.
Quote from: JD on February 26, 2010, 05:50:47 PM
Quote from: Pre on February 26, 2010, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 24, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
I see nothing wrong with comparing a 19 year old's minor league stats with those of major leaguers with long careers and coming up with such a comparison.
It's science.
I sense your green font, and your stick in the mud old timey ways are a joke old man.
See, you grew up in the Space Age. You dreamed of colonizing Mars and boning hot
blue alien chicks. And your generation blew it. You wasted untold resources and
destroyed our environment and the closest you came to your goals was to shoot a fucking
probe out of the solar system and then make a jerk off sci fi movie about it coming back
with some aliens.
We've moved on from your mistakes. We're in the Information Age now gramps. We
use computers to make money instead of creating nuclear waste all over the place and
we wear jeans while we do it. And if a computer tells you that Starlin fucking Castro
(we curse all the time now, too) is destined for greatness because at age 18 he hit
.311/.364/.464 and Jose Reyes hit .307/.337/.472 at the same age, then you sure as
shit know that he's going to do it.
That post was awesome.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Pioneer_plaque_humans.svg/547px-Pioneer_plaque_humans.svg.png)
Quote from: Wheezer on February 26, 2010, 10:02:50 PM
Quote from: JD on February 26, 2010, 05:50:47 PM
Quote from: Pre on February 26, 2010, 11:45:17 AM
Quote from: Andy on February 24, 2010, 03:58:06 PM
I see nothing wrong with comparing a 19 year old's minor league stats with those of major leaguers with long careers and coming up with such a comparison.
It's science.
I sense your green font, and your stick in the mud old timey ways are a joke old man.
See, you grew up in the Space Age. You dreamed of colonizing Mars and boning hot
blue alien chicks. And your generation blew it. You wasted untold resources and
destroyed our environment and the closest you came to your goals was to shoot a fucking
probe out of the solar system and then make a jerk off sci fi movie about it coming back
with some aliens.
We've moved on from your mistakes. We're in the Information Age now gramps. We
use computers to make money instead of creating nuclear waste all over the place and
we wear jeans while we do it. And if a computer tells you that Starlin fucking Castro
(we curse all the time now, too) is destined for greatness because at age 18 he hit
.311/.364/.464 and Jose Reyes hit .307/.337/.472 at the same age, then you sure as
shit know that he's going to do it.
That post was awesome.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/11/Pioneer_plaque_humans.svg/547px-Pioneer_plaque_humans.svg.png)
QuoteReading an image, like the reception of any other message, is dependent on prior knowledge of possibilities; we can only recognize what we know. Even the sight of the awkward naked figures in the illustration cannot be separated in our mind from our knowledge. We know that feet are for standing and eyes are for looking and we project this knowledge onto these configurations, which would look 'like nothing on earth' without this prior information. It is this information alone that enables us to separate the code from the message; we see which of the lines are intended as contours and which are intended as conventional modelling. Our 'scientifically educated' fellow creatures in space might be forgiven if they saw the figures as wire constructs with loose bits and pieces hovering weightlessly in between. Even if they deciphered this aspect of the code, what would they make of the woman's right arm that tapers off like a flamingo's neck and beak? The creatures are 'drawn to scale against the outline of the spacecraft,' but if the recipients are supposed to understand foreshortening, they might also expect to see perspective and conceive the craft as being further back, which would make the scale of the manikins minute. As for the fact that 'the man has his right hand raised in greeting' (the female of the species presumably being less outgoing), not even an earthly Chinese or Indian would be able to correctly interpret this gesture from his own repertory.
We didn't send it out there to be read by Chinamen, Ernst.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 11:11:20 PM
QuoteReading an image, like the reception of any other message, is dependent on prior knowledge of possibilities; we can only recognize what we know.
And here we have the enduring failure of "library and information science" in a nutshell.
Quote from: Wheezer on February 26, 2010, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 11:11:20 PM
QuoteReading an image, like the reception of any other message, is dependent on prior knowledge of possibilities; we can only recognize what we know.
And here we have the enduring failure of "library and information science" in a nutshell.
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2008, 05:40:00 PM
I do in fact deny ontology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology_%28information_science%29).
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 27, 2010, 01:11:28 AM
Quote from: Wheezer on February 26, 2010, 11:38:29 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on February 26, 2010, 11:11:20 PM
QuoteReading an image, like the reception of any other message, is dependent on prior knowledge of possibilities; we can only recognize what we know.
And here we have the enduring failure of "library and information science" in a nutshell.
Quote from: Wheezer on June 21, 2008, 05:40:00 PM
I do in fact deny ontology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontology_%28information_science%29).
These creeps are like Guinea worm.
rotoworld.
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella may lead off 19-year-old shortstop Starlin Castro in Thursday's spring opener.
"I'm anxious to see the kid myself," Piniella said. "He handles himself very professionally for a young kid out here, he really does. He's calm. He's not awed by being here. He's relaxed. He's not starry-eyed. If you didn't know he was 19 years old, you couldn't guess he was 19." Castro isn't projected to make the team out of camp, and should spend most of the season as Triple-A's shortstop. A good showing in camp, however, would put him first in line for a promotion if Ryan Theriot gets hurt.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times "
Quote from: BH on March 01, 2010, 03:43:02 PM
rotoworld.
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella may lead off 19-year-old shortstop Starlin Castro in Thursday's spring opener.
"I'm anxious to see the kid myself," Piniella said. "He handles himself very professionally for a young kid out here, he really does. He's calm. He's not awed by being here. He's relaxed. He's not starry-eyed. If you didn't know he was 19 years old, you couldn't guess he was 19." Castro isn't projected to make the team out of camp, and should spend most of the season as Triple-A's shortstop. A good showing in camp, however, would put him first in line for a promotion if Ryan Theriot gets hurt.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times "
He's a Latin 19, which means he's probably an American 24. Start him!
What's Gary Scott up to these days?
I find Starlin Castro's brother, Dennis, to be far more intriguing.
Quote from: BH on March 01, 2010, 03:43:02 PM
rotoworld.
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella may lead off 19-year-old shortstop Starlin Castro in Thursday's spring opener.
"I'm anxious to see the kid myself," Piniella said. "He handles himself very professionally for a young kid out here, he really does. He's calm. He's not awed by being here. He's relaxed. He's not starry-eyed. If you didn't know he was 19 years old, you couldn't guess he was 19." Castro isn't projected to make the team out of camp, and should spend most of the season as Triple-A's shortstop. A good showing in camp, however, would put him first in line for a promotion if Ryan Theriot gets hurt.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times "
Starlin Castro is the only thing that interests me in the Cubs this Spring.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 02, 2010, 08:35:13 AM
Quote from: BH on March 01, 2010, 03:43:02 PM
rotoworld.
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella may lead off 19-year-old shortstop Starlin Castro in Thursday's spring opener.
"I'm anxious to see the kid myself," Piniella said. "He handles himself very professionally for a young kid out here, he really does. He's calm. He's not awed by being here. He's relaxed. He's not starry-eyed. If you didn't know he was 19 years old, you couldn't guess he was 19." Castro isn't projected to make the team out of camp, and should spend most of the season as Triple-A's shortstop. A good showing in camp, however, would put him first in line for a promotion if Ryan Theriot gets hurt.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times "
Starlin Castro is the only thing that interests me in the Cubs this Spring.
Between Starlin and the new Cubs hot dog they're rolling out, I've got all the excitement I can handle as well.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 09:39:57 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 02, 2010, 08:35:13 AM
Quote from: BH on March 01, 2010, 03:43:02 PM
rotoworld.
"Cubs manager Lou Piniella may lead off 19-year-old shortstop Starlin Castro in Thursday's spring opener.
"I'm anxious to see the kid myself," Piniella said. "He handles himself very professionally for a young kid out here, he really does. He's calm. He's not awed by being here. He's relaxed. He's not starry-eyed. If you didn't know he was 19 years old, you couldn't guess he was 19." Castro isn't projected to make the team out of camp, and should spend most of the season as Triple-A's shortstop. A good showing in camp, however, would put him first in line for a promotion if Ryan Theriot gets hurt.
Source: Chicago Sun-Times "
Starlin Castro is the only thing that interests me in the Cubs this Spring.
Between Starlin and the new Cubs hot dog they're rolling out, I've got all the excitement I can handle as well.
Thank Gord they're not taking the troughs out of the mens' rooms. If they did that too, all our heads would explode.
Quote from: D. Doluntap on March 02, 2010, 12:44:06 AM
I find Starlin Castro's brother, Dennis, to be far more intriguing.
...or his cousin, Bupkis Castro.
Call me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
Call me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
"Trough"
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 02, 2010, 07:29:31 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
Call me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
"Trough"
I knew what Pex was referring to the whole time, but that didn't stop me from googling "troth" anyway.
Fascinating.
QuoteThe Ring of Troth, now called simply The Troth, is an American-based international Germanic neopagan (Ásatrú or heathen) organization. The Troth was founded on December 20 (Mothers' Night), 1987 by former Asatru Free Assembly members Edred Thorsson and James Chisholm. However, neither is any longer involved with the organization. The current Steerswoman is Patricia Lafayllve, who took office at Trothmoot 2008.
The Troth is recognized as a non-profit corporation in the state of Texas and recognized by the state of New York as a 501(c)(3) non-profit religious organization. It hosts a yearly June meeting called Trothmoot. Trothmoot 2009 was held in Prince William Forest Park, Virginia.
Do go on, Wikipedia.
QuoteThe Troth defines itself as a church of "Northern European Heathenry or Asatru," international in scope, with training clergy, promoting cooperation and community, and providing information and educational publications as objectives.[4] The Mission Statement refers to the ancient virtues of "Boldness, Truth, Honor, Troth, Self-Rule, Hospitality, Industry, Self-Reliance, Steadfastness, Equality, Strength, Wisdom, Generosity, and Family Responsibility."
I see alot in there that everyone, Republicans included, can get behind.
QuoteThe Troth is prominent in the non-racialist, inclusionary branch of neo-heathenry. The organization's statement of purpose and bylaws refer to "non-discriminatory groups and individuals" and specify that "Discrimination on the basis of race, gender, ethnic origin, or sexual orientation shall not be practiced by the Troth or any affiliated group."
Nevermind.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
Call me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
I think it moved.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 06:29:19 PMCall me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
Afuckingmen. Yeti can go sit on a tack.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
Call me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
If anything, I think it makes you more of a queer to be so repulsed by whizzing in a trough. One may call you an unwashed ogre for preferring to use the troughs, but "faggot" is not the pejorative that springs to my mind.
I like the troughs. They seem a more efficient use of space and time than dainty, little individualized faggoty urinals.
Quote from: MAD on March 02, 2010, 09:39:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
Call me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
If anything, I think it makes you more of a queer to be so repulsed by whizzing in a trough. One may call you an unwashed ogre for preferring to use the troughs, but "faggot" is not the pejorative that springs to my mind.
I's guwaa he just wanted to disabuse everyone of the thought that he might prefer the trough for the proximity to OPP it affords him.
Quote from: R-V on March 02, 2010, 08:21:03 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 06:29:19 PMCall me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
Afuckingmen. Yeti can go sit on a tack.
*accepts his wrongness like a champ*
Trough.
Quote from: MAD on March 02, 2010, 09:39:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
Call me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
If anything, I think it makes you more of a queer to be so repulsed by whizzing in a trough. One may call you an unwashed ogre for preferring to use the troughs, but "faggot" is not the pejorative that springs to my mind.
I like the troughs. They seem a more efficient use of space and time than dainty, little individualized faggoty urinals.
Well, I do enjoy a cheeky gander at the next man's beast.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 10:34:10 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 02, 2010, 09:39:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 02, 2010, 06:29:19 PM
Call me a faggot, but I rather prefer the troth. Less waiting in line, more vein draining. I have no statistics or measurements to back this up but I can downright swear that the troth offers more standing space. I've never been pee'd on at the troth. I don't see what the big fucking deal is. I come to the game to watch sports not to stand in line for a filthy urinal. Fuck sake.
If anything, I think it makes you more of a queer to be so repulsed by whizzing in a trough. One may call you an unwashed ogre for preferring to use the troughs, but "faggot" is not the pejorative that springs to my mind.
I like the troughs. They seem a more efficient use of space and time than dainty, little individualized faggoty urinals.
Well, I do on occasion enjoy a cheeky gander at the next man's beast.
Peek at mine and I'm pissing on your leg.
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
So you finally learn how to hail a cab and you're a Big Man, is that it?
Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 08:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
So you finally learn how to hail a cab and you're a Big Man, is that it?
Okay, fine. I didn't hail the fucking cab. The guy I was travelling with called the cab. The secret's out. I'm not as cool as you all thought I was. Are you happy now, CT? ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
I don't mind the troughs at all, but the newer stadium setups with more,
smaller bathrooms definitely leads to generally lower seat-piss-seat time across
all the set of seats. That said, I'd rather they spend the money on minor
league development.
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 08:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
So you finally learn how to hail a cab and you're a Big Man, is that it?
Okay, fine. I didn't hail the fucking cab. The guy I was travelling with called the cab. The secret's out. I'm not as cool as you all thought I was. Are you happy now, CT? ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
Fuckin hayseed.
Quote from: Oleg on March 03, 2010, 09:17:14 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 08:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
So you finally learn how to hail a cab and you're a Big Man, is that it?
Okay, fine. I didn't hail the fucking cab. The guy I was travelling with called the cab. The secret's out. I'm not as cool as you all thought I was. Are you happy now, CT? ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
Fuckin hayseed.
I'm pretty sure CT will never be happy until they bring Prell back in the glass bottle.
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 09:24:42 AM
Quote from: Oleg on March 03, 2010, 09:17:14 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 09:01:05 AM
Quote from: CT III on March 03, 2010, 08:37:11 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
So you finally learn how to hail a cab and you're a Big Man, is that it?
Okay, fine. I didn't hail the fucking cab. The guy I was travelling with called the cab. The secret's out. I'm not as cool as you all thought I was. Are you happy now, CT? ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?
Fuckin hayseed.
I'm pretty sure CT will never be happy until they bring Prell back in the glass bottle.
Until then, I remain deeply cynical.
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 03, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
My first cab ride entailed improper lane usage, speeding, and running a red light. Couple that with the head I got from Tdubbs and CT's coat, it was a great experience.
Quote from: Yeti on March 03, 2010, 12:01:25 PM
My first cab ride entailed improper lane usage, speeding, and running a red light.
Obviously, that's every cab ride.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 03, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
So there's hope that some day you'll figure out how the "Quote" button works, too?
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 03, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
So there's hope that some day you'll figure out how the "Quote" button works, too?
It is a small button, after all. And it's hidden in the corner.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 03, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 03, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
So there's hope that some day you'll figure out how the "Quote" button works, too?
It is a small button, after all. And it's hidden in the corner.
I think the joke isn't so much IAN not knowing how to find the quote button but, rather, mystifyingly quoting something other than that to which he was replying.
Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 03, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 03, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
So there's hope that some day you'll figure out how the "Quote" button works, too?
It is a small button, after all. And it's hidden in the corner.
I think the joke isn't so much IAN not knowing how to find the quote button but, rather, mystifyingly quoting something other than that to which he was replying.
Listen: IAN has come unstuck in time.
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 03, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 03, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
So there's hope that some day you'll figure out how the "Quote" button works, too?
It is a small button, after all. And it's hidden in the corner.
I think the joke isn't so much IAN not knowing how to find the quote button but, rather, mystifyingly quoting something other than that to which he was replying.
Listen: IAN has come unstuck in time.
Is that why he ruined a perfectly good joke about Gil's fiancee's menses? (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205601#msg205601)
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:43:25 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 03, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 03, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
So there's hope that some day you'll figure out how the "Quote" button works, too?
It is a small button, after all. And it's hidden in the corner.
I think the joke isn't so much IAN not knowing how to find the quote button but, rather, mystifyingly quoting something other than that to which he was replying.
Listen: IAN has come unstuck in time.
Is that why he ruined a perfectly good joke about Gil's fiancee's menses? (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205601#msg205601)
Wow. I forgot about that one.
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 12:44:49 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:43:25 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 03, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 03, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
So there's hope that some day you'll figure out how the "Quote" button works, too?
It is a small button, after all. And it's hidden in the corner.
I think the joke isn't so much IAN not knowing how to find the quote button but, rather, mystifyingly quoting something other than that to which he was replying.
Listen: IAN has come unstuck in time.
Is that why he ruined a perfectly good joke about Gil's fiancee's menses? (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205601#msg205601)
Wow. I forgot about that one.
Greg Olsen sucks.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:43:25 PM
Quote from: Jon on March 03, 2010, 12:38:03 PM
Quote from: MAD on March 03, 2010, 12:29:45 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on March 03, 2010, 12:22:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on March 03, 2010, 12:06:51 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on March 03, 2010, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Fork on March 03, 2010, 10:24:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on March 03, 2010, 08:03:40 AM
Yeah, if you're insecure enough that you're afraid that a random stranger out of a crowd of 40,000+ drunk morans is going to take a gander at your warhammer and get some secret Chad urge that he has to repress by calling some other dude a faggot, you should probably just stop going to public restrooms, period. Frankly I like that I can go to a venue that large and still take less than 5 minutes to get from seat to pisser and back. Saves me the time I need to hurl as many racial epithets as possible at Milton Bradley.
It's not insecurity. I'm just looking for an excuse to piss on Apex's leg.
I successfully hailed a cab in Chicago. IT WAS AWESOME. It was my first cab ride.
So there's hope that some day you'll figure out how the "Quote" button works, too?
It is a small button, after all. And it's hidden in the corner.
I think the joke isn't so much IAN not knowing how to find the quote button but, rather, mystifyingly quoting something other than that to which he was replying.
Listen: IAN has come unstuck in time.
Is that why he ruined a perfectly good joke about Gil's fiancee's menses? (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205601#msg205601)
Wait. Shouldn't that be moenses?
NO WAY (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=10183)
Quote8. Chicago Cubs
Last Year's Ranking: 26
Why They Are Here: As bad a year as the Cubs had at the big-league level, that's how good a year they had down on the farm, as 2008 draftees stepped forward, international signees shined, and plenty of others stepped forward. Throw in a first-round draft steal in Brett Jackson, and things are looking very, very up.
Where They Will Be Next Year: Chances are good that all of these players should still be eligible next year, and while I don't see the true star potential in Starlin Castro that others do, it's reasonable to expect good performances from Josh Vitters and Hak-Ju Lee. The aging big-league team needs help now, but this might take awhile.
Quote from: Day Man on March 09, 2010, 12:19:57 PM
NO WAY (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=10183)
Quote8. Chicago Cubs
Last Year's Ranking: 26
Why They Are Here: As bad a year as the Cubs had at the big-league level, that's how good a year they had down on the farm, as 2008 draftees stepped forward, international signees shined, and plenty of others stepped forward. Throw in a first-round draft steal in Brett Jackson, and things are looking very, very up.
Where They Will Be Next Year: Chances are good that all of these players should still be eligible next year, and while I don't see the true star potential in Starlin Castro that others do, it's reasonable to expect good performances from Josh Vitters and Hak-Ju Lee. The aging big-league team needs help now, but this might take awhile.
Hak-Ju Lee. Sweet. Somehow someway, we'll come up the most awesome nickname ever for this dude. I'll put the leader in the clubhouse at: Hak-Ju Lee "and make a blog out of her skin."
Go.
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 09, 2010, 12:54:16 PM
Quote from: Day Man on March 09, 2010, 12:19:57 PM
NO WAY (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=10183)
Quote8. Chicago Cubs
Last Year's Ranking: 26
Why They Are Here: As bad a year as the Cubs had at the big-league level, that's how good a year they had down on the farm, as 2008 draftees stepped forward, international signees shined, and plenty of others stepped forward. Throw in a first-round draft steal in Brett Jackson, and things are looking very, very up.
Where They Will Be Next Year: Chances are good that all of these players should still be eligible next year, and while I don't see the true star potential in Starlin Castro that others do, it's reasonable to expect good performances from Josh Vitters and Hak-Ju Lee. The aging big-league team needs help now, but this might take awhile.
Hak-Ju Lee. Sweet. Somehow someway, we'll come up the most awesome nickname ever for this dude. I'll put the leader in the clubhouse at: Hak-Ju Lee "and make a blog out of her skin."
Go.
I think CubbieJu-lee's RSS feed just went off...
Quote from: morpheus on March 09, 2010, 01:07:04 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on March 09, 2010, 12:54:16 PM
Quote from: Day Man on March 09, 2010, 12:19:57 PM
NO WAY (http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=10183)
Quote8. Chicago Cubs
Last Year's Ranking: 26
Why They Are Here: As bad a year as the Cubs had at the big-league level, that's how good a year they had down on the farm, as 2008 draftees stepped forward, international signees shined, and plenty of others stepped forward. Throw in a first-round draft steal in Brett Jackson, and things are looking very, very up.
Where They Will Be Next Year: Chances are good that all of these players should still be eligible next year, and while I don't see the true star potential in Starlin Castro that others do, it's reasonable to expect good performances from Josh Vitters and Hak-Ju Lee. The aging big-league team needs help now, but this might take awhile.
Hak-Ju Lee. Sweet. Somehow someway, we'll come up the most awesome nickname ever for this dude. I'll put the leader in the clubhouse at: Hak-Ju Lee "and make a blog out of her skin."
Go.
I think CubbieJu-lee's RSS feed just went off...
Her alert is the singing fish from the McDonald's commercials.
Weren't we (as a whole) down on Brett Jackson as a first round pick?
Quote from: Slack-E on March 09, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Weren't we (as a whole) down on Brett Jackson as a first round pick?
Isn't he supposed to be Korey redux?
Quote from: Slack-E on March 09, 2010, 01:40:42 PM
Weren't we (as a whole) down on Brett Jackson as a first round pick?
I think almost everyone was. He struck out so much in college that it seemed like he'd have major contact issues in the pros. So far, so good though.
In case anyone missed it:
http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park (http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park)
Quote
...with Starlin Castro breaking off first, Micah Hoffpauir struck out swinging on a 3-2 pitch, and Castro was called out for sliding past 2nd base (he had the base stolen easily, too). I hate to say this because it's not fair to Castro, but the play brought back nightmares of Ronny Cedeno running the bases.
Quote from: motown on March 10, 2010, 08:17:44 AM
In case anyone missed it:
http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park (http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park)
Quote
...with Starlin Castro breaking off first, Micah Hoffpauir struck out swinging on a 3-2 pitch, and Castro was called out for sliding past 2nd base (he had the base stolen easily, too). I hate to say this because it's not fair to Castro, but the play brought back nightmares of Ronny Cedeno running the bases.
At least he didn't get thrown out on a walk like RonCe did.
Quote from: motown on March 10, 2010, 08:17:44 AM
In case anyone missed it:
http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park (http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park)
Quote
...with Starlin Castro breaking off first, Micah Hoffpauir struck out swinging on a 3-2 pitch, and Castro was called out for sliding past 2nd base (he had the base stolen easily, too). I hate to say this because it's not fair to Castro, but the play brought back nightmares of Ronny Cedeno running the bases.
He qualified the statement by saying it's not fair to Castro to compare him to RonCe. So he's got that going for him, which is nice.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 08:37:17 AM
Quote from: motown on March 10, 2010, 08:17:44 AM
In case anyone missed it:
http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park (http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park)
Quote
...with Starlin Castro breaking off first, Micah Hoffpauir struck out swinging on a 3-2 pitch, and Castro was called out for sliding past 2nd base (he had the base stolen easily, too). I hate to say this because it's not fair to Castro, but the play brought back nightmares of Ronny Cedeno running the bases.
At least he didn't get thrown out on a walk like RonCe did.
Yeah, it's not remotely the same thing. No one can top RonCe's retardity.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 10, 2010, 09:08:46 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 08:37:17 AM
Quote from: motown on March 10, 2010, 08:17:44 AM
In case anyone missed it:
http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park (http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park)
Quote
...with Starlin Castro breaking off first, Micah Hoffpauir struck out swinging on a 3-2 pitch, and Castro was called out for sliding past 2nd base (he had the base stolen easily, too). I hate to say this because it's not fair to Castro, but the play brought back nightmares of Ronny Cedeno running the bases.
At least he didn't get thrown out on a walk like RonCe did.
Yeah, it's not remotely the same thing. No one can top RonCe's retardity.
The most surprising thing to me is that the Cub Reporter still exists.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 10, 2010, 09:08:46 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on March 10, 2010, 08:37:17 AM
Quote from: motown on March 10, 2010, 08:17:44 AM
In case anyone missed it:
http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park (http://www.thecubreporter.com/2010/03/09/alls-wells-hohokam-park)
Quote
...with Starlin Castro breaking off first, Micah Hoffpauir struck out swinging on a 3-2 pitch, and Castro was called out for sliding past 2nd base (he had the base stolen easily, too). I hate to say this because it's not fair to Castro, but the play brought back nightmares of Ronny Cedeno running the bases.
At least he didn't get thrown out on a walk like RonCe did.
Yeah, it's not remotely the same thing. No one can top RonCe's retardity.
No, it's definitely not Cedeno-level retardity, and Castro certainly doesn't have the same volume of retarded acts as Cedeno to judge from at this point. I just thought the attempted connection was amusing since I heard it happen live and was wistfully reminded of Cedeno as well.
Perhaps a better retardity comparison is Theriot, yes?
Quote from: motown on March 10, 2010, 09:58:30 AM
Perhaps a better retardity comparison is Theriot, yes?
This.
Though I, too, immediately thought of Ronny.
With the added qualification that it's still early in Spring Training, which is when guys are still working on getting their timing back on things like sliding into bases.
Don't forget that after that Cedeno fuckup, he told reporters that they "must have changed the rules". He still didn't know what he did wrong.
That's Hall-of-Fame shitheadedness right there. No one compares.
Ron Cedeno was no Freddie Bynum.
Quote from: Simmer on March 10, 2010, 01:36:31 PM
Ron Cedeno was no Freddie Bynum.
TEC will fight you to the death over this.
Quote from: Simmer on March 10, 2010, 01:36:31 PM
Ron Cedeno Freddie Bynum was no Freddie Bynum. Jose Macias
Quote from: BBM on March 10, 2010, 05:38:31 PM
Quote from: Simmer on March 10, 2010, 01:36:31 PM
Ron Cedeno Freddie Bynum was no Freddie Bynum. Jose Macias
Thing was, as bad as Jose Macias was, he actually had a major league career before he came to the Cubs. It's kind of special knowing that Cedeno and even Bynum got their first taste of undeserved major league service as Cubs.
Although there was a moment in time where I thought RonCe might actually have been turning into a decent hitter. I can't say the same for Bynum.
Quote from: Slack-E on March 10, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: BBM on March 10, 2010, 05:38:31 PM
Quote from: Simmer on March 10, 2010, 01:36:31 PM
Ron Cedeno Freddie Bynum was no Freddie Bynum. Jose Macias
Thing was, as bad as Jose Macias was, he actually had a major league career before he came to the Cubs. It's kind of special knowing that Cedeno and even Bynum got their first taste of undeserved major league service as Cubs.
Although there was a moment in time where I thought RonCe might actually have been turning into a decent hitter. I can't say the same for Bynum.
Holy hell, Bynum was so bad. The only thing worse than his playing was Dusty's attempt to give him the nickname "Boom-Boom."
Quote from: Bort on March 11, 2010, 10:40:25 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on March 10, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: BBM on March 10, 2010, 05:38:31 PM
Quote from: Simmer on March 10, 2010, 01:36:31 PM
Ron Cedeno Freddie Bynum was no Freddie Bynum. Jose Macias
Thing was, as bad as Jose Macias was, he actually had a major league career before he came to the Cubs. It's kind of special knowing that Cedeno and even Bynum got their first taste of undeserved major league service as Cubs.
Although there was a moment in time where I thought RonCe might actually have been turning into a decent hitter. I can't say the same for Bynum.
Holy hell, Bynum was so bad. The only thing worse than his playing was Dusty's attempt to give him the nickname "Boom-Boom."
Especially when "Piano Keys" made so much more sense.
Quote from: morpheus on March 11, 2010, 11:10:03 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 11, 2010, 10:40:25 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on March 10, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: BBM on March 10, 2010, 05:38:31 PM
Quote from: Simmer on March 10, 2010, 01:36:31 PM
Ron Cedeno Freddie Bynum was no Freddie Bynum. Jose Macias
Thing was, as bad as Jose Macias was, he actually had a major league career before he came to the Cubs. It's kind of special knowing that Cedeno and even Bynum got their first taste of undeserved major league service as Cubs.
Although there was a moment in time where I thought RonCe might actually have been turning into a decent hitter. I can't say the same for Bynum.
Holy hell, Bynum was so bad. The only thing worse than his playing was Dusty's attempt to give him the nickname "Boom-Boom."
Especially when "Piano Keys" made so much more sense.
It was a team effort, but I want everyone to know that *I* was the one who coined "piano keys". ME!
Quote from: MAD on March 11, 2010, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: morpheus on March 11, 2010, 11:10:03 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 11, 2010, 10:40:25 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on March 10, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: BBM on March 10, 2010, 05:38:31 PM
Quote from: Simmer on March 10, 2010, 01:36:31 PM
Ron Cedeno Freddie Bynum was no Freddie Bynum. Jose Macias
Thing was, as bad as Jose Macias was, he actually had a major league career before he came to the Cubs. It's kind of special knowing that Cedeno and even Bynum got their first taste of undeserved major league service as Cubs.
Although there was a moment in time where I thought RonCe might actually have been turning into a decent hitter. I can't say the same for Bynum.
Holy hell, Bynum was so bad. The only thing worse than his playing was Dusty's attempt to give him the nickname "Boom-Boom."
Especially when "Piano Keys" made so much more sense.
It was a team effort, but I want everyone to know that *I* was the one who coined "piano keys". ME!
GARBANZO BEANS!
Quote from: BH on March 11, 2010, 11:15:26 AM
Quote from: MAD on March 11, 2010, 11:11:12 AM
Quote from: morpheus on March 11, 2010, 11:10:03 AM
Quote from: Bort on March 11, 2010, 10:40:25 AM
Quote from: Slack-E on March 10, 2010, 09:36:04 PM
Quote from: BBM on March 10, 2010, 05:38:31 PM
Quote from: Simmer on March 10, 2010, 01:36:31 PM
Ron Cedeno Freddie Bynum was no Freddie Bynum. Jose Macias
Thing was, as bad as Jose Macias was, he actually had a major league career before he came to the Cubs. It's kind of special knowing that Cedeno and even Bynum got their first taste of undeserved major league service as Cubs.
Although there was a moment in time where I thought RonCe might actually have been turning into a decent hitter. I can't say the same for Bynum.
Holy hell, Bynum was so bad. The only thing worse than his playing was Dusty's attempt to give him the nickname "Boom-Boom."
Especially when "Piano Keys" made so much more sense.
It was a team effort, but I want everyone to know that *I* was the one who coined "piano keys". ME!
GARBANZO BEANS!
I was partial to Freddie "Theory of Relativity of" Bynum "& Bailey's Garbanzo Circus"
Remember when Bynum dropped two fly balls in one game back in '06?
Good times, good times.
Andy's joke about using Bynum's teeth to rake the infield is still my favorite.
Kinda what we've been hearing (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-top-50-national-league-prospects)
Quote12. Andrew Cashner, RHP, Chicago Cubs
13. Starlin Castro, SS, Chicago Cubs
23. Josh Vitters, 3B, Chicago Cubs
42. Hak-Ju Lee, SS, Chicago Cubs
49. Jay Jackson, RHP, Chicago Cubs
I very much enjoy that the Cardinals only have 1 guy in this list
Quote from: Yeti on March 11, 2010, 01:36:45 PM
Kinda what we've been hearing (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-top-50-national-league-prospects)
Quote12. Andrew Cashner, RHP, Chicago Cubs
13. Starlin Castro, SS, Chicago Cubs
23. Josh Vitters, 3B, Chicago Cubs
42. Hak-Ju Lee, SS, Chicago Cubs
49. Jay Jackson, RHP, Chicago Cubs
I very much enjoy that the Cardinals only have 1 guy in this list
I very much enjoy that the Pirates have a bunch of future Cubs on this list.
What the hell happened to Gail Fischer?
Quote from: D. Doluntap on March 12, 2010, 08:55:12 PM
What the hell happened to Gail Fischer?
She ate Kerry Sayers.
Bump because there isn't any other positive Cubs news right now.
Castro was 2-for-4 with a homer last night. Now hitting .380/.396/.620 in 50 at-bats, good for a 1.016 OPS. That's almost twice Ryan Theriot's OPS.
So, yay?
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:33:48 AM
Bump because there isn't any other positive Cubs news right now.
Castro was 2-for-4 with a homer last night. Now hitting .380/.396/.620 in 50 at-bats, good for a 1.016 OPS. That's almost twice Ryan Theriot's OPS.
So, yay?
Not .400? Time to cut bait.
Quote from: Fork on April 21, 2010, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:33:48 AM
Bump because there isn't any other positive Cubs news right now.
Castro was 2-for-4 with a homer last night. Now hitting .380/.396/.620 in 50 at-bats, good for a 1.016 OPS. That's almost twice Ryan Theriot's OPS.
So, yay?
Not .400? Time to cut bait.
Well his OBP is right near what Milton's was last year, thus, they are the same player.
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
I'm just hoping the Cubs resist the temptation to call him up to rescue the bullpen and keep him starting in the minors where he belongs until September at least. He looks outstanding. 0.63 WHIP. Jay Jackson at Iowa is another starter in the minors with #1 stuff. Casey Coleman at Iowa has good #s but he has #3 stuff at best. Either way, between Wells and those two they have enough starting pitching prospects that they will hopefully consider trading one or two of the veteran starters
if when they're sucking ass at the all-star break.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2010, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
I'm just hoping the Cubs resist the temptation to call him up to rescue the bullpen and keep him starting in the minors where he belongs until September at least. He looks outstanding. 0.63 WHIP. Jay Jackson at Iowa is another starter in the minors with #1 stuff. Casey Coleman at Iowa has good #s but he has #3 stuff at best. Either way, between Wells and those two they have enough starting pitching prospects that they will hopefully consider trading one or two of the veteran starters if when they're sucking ass at the all-star break.
Who, though? I don't think you can trade Z, no trade clause and also the market for him would be small based off of his salary. Dempster, possibly. Silva, no, unless he continues to be good, which is highly unlikely. Lilly's a matter of if he looks good from the surgery. I'd protest a Lilly move, because I'm thinking he might be a guy who will be better in his 30s than in his 20s, so I'd like to see the Cubs re-sign him. Plus, I love the guy.
Quote from: Yeti on April 21, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2010, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
I'm just hoping the Cubs resist the temptation to call him up to rescue the bullpen and keep him starting in the minors where he belongs until September at least. He looks outstanding. 0.63 WHIP. Jay Jackson at Iowa is another starter in the minors with #1 stuff. Casey Coleman at Iowa has good #s but he has #3 stuff at best. Either way, between Wells and those two they have enough starting pitching prospects that they will hopefully consider trading one or two of the veteran starters if when they're sucking ass at the all-star break.
Who, though? I don't think you can trade Z, no trade clause and also the market for him would be small based off of his salary. Dempster, possibly. Silva, no, unless he continues to be good, which is highly unlikely. Lilly's a matter of if he looks good from the surgery. I'd protest a Lilly move, because I'm thinking he might be a guy who will be better in his 30s than in his 20s, so I'd like to see the Cubs re-sign him. Plus, I love the guy.
I wouldn't argue trading Z. I think he's still young enough to be effective for a few more years and with his no-trade he'd probably be more difficult to move. Dempster would make the most sense. His deal isn't terribly unreasonable and I'm sure a team would be desperate enough to pay well for him. Lilly could also be moveable. It's just something to think about. Chances are Jim will trade Cashner for Matt Lawton or something anyways because the Cubs are only 7 1/2 games out of the WC lead at the break.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2010, 09:19:06 AM
Quote from: Yeti on April 21, 2010, 09:07:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2010, 08:56:59 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
I'm just hoping the Cubs resist the temptation to call him up to rescue the bullpen and keep him starting in the minors where he belongs until September at least. He looks outstanding. 0.63 WHIP. Jay Jackson at Iowa is another starter in the minors with #1 stuff. Casey Coleman at Iowa has good #s but he has #3 stuff at best. Either way, between Wells and those two they have enough starting pitching prospects that they will hopefully consider trading one or two of the veteran starters if when they're sucking ass at the all-star break.
Who, though? I don't think you can trade Z, no trade clause and also the market for him would be small based off of his salary. Dempster, possibly. Silva, no, unless he continues to be good, which is highly unlikely. Lilly's a matter of if he looks good from the surgery. I'd protest a Lilly move, because I'm thinking he might be a guy who will be better in his 30s than in his 20s, so I'd like to see the Cubs re-sign him. Plus, I love the guy.
I wouldn't argue trading Z. I think he's still young enough to be effective for a few more years and with his no-trade he'd probably be more difficult to move. Dempster would make the most sense. His deal isn't terribly unreasonable and I'm sure a team would be desperate enough to pay well for him. Lilly could also be moveable. It's just something to think about. Chances are Jim will trade Cashner for Matt Lawton or something anyways because the Cubs are only 7 1/2 games out of the WC lead at the break.
Well, Jim does want to get bent (http://hirejimessian.com/2010/04/20/jim-hendry-wants-you-to-screw-him/)
I think it's time to give up on Castro and trade him. He's only hitting .380 with a 1.016 OPS at AA Tennessee.
Quote from: Andy on April 21, 2010, 10:42:26 AM
I think it's time to give up on Castro and trade him. He's only hitting .380 with a 1.016 OPS at AA Tennessee.
Quote from: Fork on April 21, 2010, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:33:48 AM
Bump because there isn't any other positive Cubs news right now.
Castro was 2-for-4 with a homer last night. Now hitting .380/.396/.620 in 50 at-bats, good for a 1.016 OPS. That's almost twice Ryan Theriot's OPS.
So, yay?
Not .400? Time to cut bait.
Missed all that?
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2010, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 21, 2010, 10:42:26 AM
I think it's time to give up on Castro and trade him. He's only hitting .380 with a 1.016 OPS at AA Tennessee.
Quote from: Fork on April 21, 2010, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:33:48 AM
Bump because there isn't any other positive Cubs news right now.
Castro was 2-for-4 with a homer last night. Now hitting .380/.396/.620 in 50 at-bats, good for a 1.016 OPS. That's almost twice Ryan Theriot's OPS.
So, yay?
Not .400? Time to cut bait.
Missed all that?
Jimbo knows that the key to the infield in 2nd base.. so i have no doubt that whenever Starlin gets the call, he'll be playing at 2nd base.
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2010, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 21, 2010, 10:42:26 AM
I think it's time to give up on Castro and trade him. He's only hitting .380 with a 1.016 OPS at AA Tennessee.
Quote from: Fork on April 21, 2010, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:33:48 AM
Bump because there isn't any other positive Cubs news right now.
Castro was 2-for-4 with a homer last night. Now hitting .380/.396/.620 in 50 at-bats, good for a 1.016 OPS. That's almost twice Ryan Theriot's OPS.
So, yay?
Not .400? Time to cut bait.
Missed all that?
The important thing to remember here is that Oleg is of slightly below average stature.
Wait. What are we talking about?
Quote from: SKO on April 21, 2010, 10:45:13 AM
Quote from: Andy on April 21, 2010, 10:42:26 AM
I think it's time to give up on Castro and trade him. He's only hitting .380 with a 1.016 OPS at AA Tennessee.
Quote from: Fork on April 21, 2010, 08:34:24 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:33:48 AM
Bump because there isn't any other positive Cubs news right now.
Castro was 2-for-4 with a homer last night. Now hitting .380/.396/.620 in 50 at-bats, good for a 1.016 OPS. That's almost twice Ryan Theriot's OPS.
So, yay?
Not .400? Time to cut bait.
Missed all that?
Andy's default setting is to skip 5 posts as soon as he sees "Fork" in there anywhere.
(sniff)
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
BONAR.
For fuck's sake, call up Starlin. Even if it's only for my enjoyment.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2010, 12:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
BONAR.
For fuck's sake, call up Starlin. Even if it's only for my enjoyment.
If they keep sliding and Castro keeps hitting, it'll probably hai.*
* I don't think I ever got the origin of "hai." Is that a SBox thing?
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2010, 12:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
BONAR.
For fuck's sake, call up Starlin. Even if it's only for my enjoyment.
If they keep sliding and Castro keeps hitting, it'll probably hai.*
* I don't think I ever got the origin of "hai." Is that a SBox thing?
There was a picture of someone at Wrigley holding up a handwritten sign that didn't fit and trailed off that looked like "IT'S GOTTA
HAI, if I recall correctly.
Quote from: Bort on April 21, 2010, 12:55:01 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2010, 12:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
BONAR.
For fuck's sake, call up Starlin. Even if it's only for my enjoyment.
If they keep sliding and Castro keeps hitting, it'll probably hai.*
* I don't think I ever got the origin of "hai." Is that a SBox thing?
There was a picture of someone at Wrigley holding up a handwritten sign that didn't fit and trailed off that looked like "IT'S GOTTA HAI, if I recall correctly.
"IT'S GONNA HA(down arrow)
PPEN:
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2010, 12:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
BONAR.
For fuck's sake, call up Starlin. Even if it's only for my enjoyment.
If they keep sliding and Castro keeps hitting, it'll probably hai.*
* I don't think I ever got the origin of "hai." Is that a SBox thing?
A
n SBox thing.
An.But no, it's not.
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 12:46:34 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 21, 2010, 12:43:17 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 21, 2010, 08:48:57 AM
Bonus prospect positive:
At Tennessee, Andrew Cashner has a 2.60 ERA in 17 innings, with a 25-to-4 K/BB ratio.
BONAR.
For fuck's sake, call up Starlin. Even if it's only for my enjoyment.
If they keep sliding and Castro keeps hitting, it'll probably hai.*
* I don't think I ever got the origin of "hai." Is that a SBox thing?
Is it wrong of me to hope for them to continue sucking? Because I'm tired of watching these gutless fucking assholes. I'm in the mood for a new crop of slightly less gutless fucking assholes.
By the way, Rotoworld kind of splooged all over Starlin calling him a terrific prospect. I know, it's going out on a limb, but still--it's good to hear.
Why don't we just encourage Greenies and PED usage and watch these old guys flourish one more time?
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Heh..."Jim Edmond(s)".
http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37017632/ns/sports-player_news/
Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes reports that the Cubs have called up prospect shortstop Starlin Castro.
According to Rojas, Castro is en route to meet the club for this weekend's series against the Reds. If true, it represents a surprising change of pace for the club, as Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said Castro was not in line for an early-season promotion as recently as last week. Castro, 20, is batting .376/.421/.569 with one home run, 20 RBI and 20 runs scored over 109 at-bats with Double-A Tennessee. He was ranked as the organization's No. 1 prospect by Baseball America over the winter. His promotion would push Ryan Theriot to second base.
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IT'S GONNA HAI origin is gone!!! Fuck.
Quote from: Elihttp://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/37017632/ns/sports-player_news/
Enrique Rojas of ESPN Deportes reports that the Cubs have called up prospect shortstop Starlin Castro.
According to Rojas, Castro is en route to meet the club for this weekend's series against the Reds. If true, it represents a surprising change of pace for the club, as Cubs general manager Jim Hendry said Castro was not in line for an early-season promotion as recently as last week. Castro, 20, is batting .376/.421/.569 with one home run, 20 RBI and 20 runs scored over 109 at-bats with Double-A Tennessee. He was ranked as the organization's No. 1 prospect by Baseball America over the winter. His promotion would push Ryan Theriot to second base.
Well, make or break time now for the kid. For the people who have been wanting it (IAN), this may get you interested again, and I sure hope this doesn't fuck him up.
Hooray for another panic move!
Quote from: Yeti on May 07, 2010, 09:21:12 AM
Well, make or break time now for the kid. For the people who have been wanting it (IAN), this may get you interested again, and I sure hope this doesn't fuck him up.
It's a big risk, without much upside. Like R-V said, it really seems like a panic move. It's unlikely that a 20-year-old shortstop is going to come up from AA and play well enough to make a significant difference in the season, so what is the big rush?
Jim Hendry on April 30th:
Quote"[Castro] is on a very good path. There's no doubt he'll be here sometime this year, but it won't be in the next couple days."
http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/blog/roto_arcade/post/Hendry-on-Castro-No-doubt-he-ll-be-here-someti?urn=fantasy,237889
The Cubs have a logjam with 5 outfielders....so let's rush up the shortstop NOW after Theriot seems to have gotten back on track. Genius.
Sometimes it feels like this team makes counterintuitive moves out of spite just to fuck with their fan base.
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2010, 09:26:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on May 07, 2010, 09:21:12 AM
Well, make or break time now for the kid. For the people who have been wanting it (IAN), this may get you interested again, and I sure hope this doesn't fuck him up.
It's a big risk, without much upside. Like R-V said, it really seems like a panic move. It's unlikely that a 20-year-old shortstop is going to come up from AA and play well enough to make a significant difference in the season, so what is the big rush?
Marketing. "We suck, but watch the kid!"
Quote from: MAD on May 07, 2010, 09:29:26 AM
The Cubs have a logjam with 5 outfielders....so let's rush up the shortstop NOW after Theriot seems to have gotten back on track. Genius.
Sometimes it feels like this team makes counterintuitive moves out of spite just to fuck with placate their fan base.
Meatballed.
Quote from: Eli on May 07, 2010, 09:26:41 AM
Quote from: Yeti on May 07, 2010, 09:21:12 AM
Well, make or break time now for the kid. For the people who have been wanting it (IAN), this may get you interested again, and I sure hope this doesn't fuck him up.
It's a big risk, without much upside. Like R-V said, it really seems like a panic move. It's unlikely that a 20-year-old shortstop is going to come up from AA and play well enough to make a significant difference in the season, so what is the big rush?
Jesus Christ this is a stupid, stupid panic move.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 07, 2010, 09:30:22 AM
Quote from: MAD on May 07, 2010, 09:29:26 AM
The Cubs have a logjam with 5 outfielders....so let's rush up the shortstop NOW after Theriot seems to have gotten back on track. Genius.
Sometimes it feels like this team makes counterintuitive moves out of spite just to fuck with placate their fan base.
Meatballed.
Yeah. Guess I should have qualified "which" fans this moves annoys.
My favorite part of this move is going to be when Starlin doesn't even play every day.
I think the move is as much to fix the defense as anything. They should have won Dempster's start, but Theriot misplayed two grounders that a normal shortstop makes outs out of.
The part that makes no fucking sense is that the Cubs knew they were going to do this at some point this season, but they didn't play Theriot even one inning at second all spring.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/05/your-morning-phil-castro-prior-oswalt.html
Phil Rogers thinks Castro is a young Shawon Dunston.
yay?
Phil Rogers is a simplistic boob. But you all know that.
Quote from: Andy on May 07, 2010, 05:03:04 PM
Phil Rogers is a simplistic boob. But you all know that.
I don't know about all that....I mean, he did write an article today, 5 months after the Cubs traded him, that Milton Bradley isn't worth the trouble. (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/ct-spt-0507-rogers-milton-bradley--20100506,0,6053449.column)
That takes some pretty serious insight.
Intrepid Reader: IAN
FUCK. YOU. DESIPIO.
Starlin Castro says Felix Pie can suck his dick.
This kid is going to ruin my summer plans for exclusively watching the World Cup.
A couple more ABs for Castro plz.
Nice pop-up, loser.
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on May 07, 2010, 08:34:43 PM
Nice pop-up, loser.
Intrepid reader: Al Yellon
Time to cut bait.
DPD.
Another number 13, another season saved.
Quote from: Andy on May 07, 2010, 03:05:30 PM
I think the move is as much to fix the defense as anything. They should have won Dempster's start, but Theriot misplayed two grounders that a normal shortstop makes outs out of.
The part that makes no fucking sense is that the Cubs knew they were going to do this at some point this season, but they didn't play Theriot even one inning at second all spring.
I don't think he forgot how to play second. He won't even have to adjust the zip on his throws to first. Instead of his usual 88 hoppers he'll be shorthopping Lee, who'll dig his weak shit, no problem. He made a couple nice turns there last night.
I like the move. GO Kubbeez.
Well for one night at least, it was fun as hell to be a Cubs fan. Very cool that Starlin is going to hold at least one major league record for a while.
At least until Vitters comes up and drives in 9 runs in his debut.
Quote from: Shooter on May 07, 2010, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on May 07, 2010, 08:34:43 PM
Nice pop-up, loser.
Intrepid reader: Al Yellon
Time to cut bait.
So do we trade him to mets for Jose Reyes to then trade Reyes to SF for Edgar Renteria?
Quote from: BBM on May 08, 2010, 11:12:01 AM
Quote from: Shooter on May 07, 2010, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on May 07, 2010, 08:34:43 PM
Nice pop-up, loser.
Intrepid reader: Al Yellon
Time to cut bait.
So do we trade him to mets for Jose Reyes to then trade Reyes to SF for Edgar Renteria?
Hold on, big shooter. Wait until he completely fails as a prospect and then flip him to the O's for Tejada.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 08, 2010, 06:13:00 PM
Quote from: BBM on May 08, 2010, 11:12:01 AM
Quote from: Shooter on May 07, 2010, 08:48:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on May 07, 2010, 08:34:43 PM
Nice pop-up, loser.
Intrepid reader: Al Yellon
Time to cut bait.
So do we trade him to mets for Jose Reyes to then trade Reyes to SF for Edgar Renteria?
Hold on, big shooter. Wait until he completely fails as a prospect and then flip him to the O's for Tejada BRIAN ROBERTS!!!!!.
What's the difference in Starlin playing meaningless biesbol in Chicago versus meaningless biesbol in Iowa or Buttfuckingham, Tennessee or Crotch Scratch Springs, Florida? For fuck's sake, he was proving that he was above thr competition in the minors. Why not bring him up?
An article on Fangraphs basically said they wanted to break Spring Training with him, but waited it out to guarantee control through 2016, unlike the Braves and Jayson Heyward. I know a lot of you like to think you know better, but this team sucks. Maybe the Cubs are trying to see what they have here. In other words, let's just see how this plays out.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 09, 2010, 08:09:38 AM
What's the difference in Starlin playing meaningless biesbol in Chicago versus meaningless biesbol in Iowa or Buttfuckingham, Tennessee or Crotch Scratch Springs, Florida? For fuck's sake, he was proving that he was above thr competition in the minors. Why not bring him up?
This is fine
if he plays. What some people fear is that, whenever he starts to struggle, he'll find the major league bench and lose those ABs, which won't help his development at all.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 09, 2010, 08:09:38 AM
I know a lot of you like to think you know better, but this team sucks.
Who here is saying they don't? That's exactly the point. Bringing up Castro so young, like moving Zambrano to the pen, strikes a lot of us as a dumb win-it-now move by a team that is not even remotely ready to begin winning it now.
But if this is actually what's best for Castro's development, so be it. (It's kind of nice that the Cubs are finally calling up a "kid" from the farm under the age of 27.) We've been burnt too many times before to trust this, though.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 09, 2010, 08:09:38 AM
What's the difference in Starlin playing meaningless biesbol in Chicago versus meaningless biesbol in Iowa or Buttfuckingham, Tennessee or Crotch Scratch Springs, Florida? For fuck's sake, he was proving that he was above thr competition in the minors. Why not bring him up?
Here's the thing, he "proved" he was above the competition at AA by hitting well for a month. Would he have kept up his .990 OPS in AA over a whole season? I have no idea. But saying he "proved" something in 26 games in AA this year to me sounds like all the idiots who claimed Micah Hoffpauir had solved major league pitching because he'd managed a .934 OPS in 80 plate appearances in 2008.
Now granted, I'm not saying Castro is going to be bad. But it seems idiotic to call up a 19 year old who hasn't got a full season in AA and ask him to be the difference maker this season (and Hendry and Lou can claim whatever they want, but that's exactly what is happening).
Oh, and let's not forget that it appears that the team is going to be on a much stricter budget now, and the Cubs have likely just made this kid into a "Super 2" player for arbitration purposes. I hope Castro is awesome, but the way this whole thing has been handled from an organizational standpoint is fucking idiotic.
Which I guess isn't that surprising.
I understand both your points and I can't say I disagree. I was also a little sauced when I typed that out.
Starlin is the first Cub player born in 1990 or later to make the MLB. I feel old.
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 12:01:36 PM
Starlin is the first Cub player born in 1990 or later to make the MLB. I feel old.
Shit, I'm even older than you...
Fork must want to die.
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 12:01:36 PM
Starlin is the first Cub player born in 1990 or later to make the MLB. I feel old.
He might be the first Cub player in my lifetime who is younger than me.
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 12:01:36 PM
Starlin is the first Cub player born in 1990 or later to make the MLB. I feel old.
He might be the first Cub player in my lifetime who is younger than me.
Mine was Kerry Wood.
Felix wasn't younger than you, SKO? People born in the 90s have always freaked me out. it just seems weird. And I can say this since I was 4 yrs 3 mos old when the 90s began
Quote from: Yeti on May 10, 2010, 12:22:58 PM
Felix wasn't younger than you, SKO? People born in the 90s have always freaked me out. it just seems weird. And I can say this since I was 4 yrs 3 mos old when the 90s began
Pie was born three years before I was. I'm September of 88.
Don Schultze is 1 day older than yours truly.
Shawon Dunston was the first one younger.
Quote from: Bort on May 10, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 12:01:36 PM
Starlin is the first Cub player born in 1990 or later to make the MLB. I feel old.
He might be the first Cub player in my lifetime who is younger than me.
Mine was Kerry Wood.
Carlos Zambrano.
Shut. up.
All of you.
Quote from: Fork on May 10, 2010, 12:54:03 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 10, 2010, 12:52:39 PM
Shut. up.
All of you.
Translation: Stan Hack
Please. He doesn't look a day over Phil Cavarretta.
Quote from: flannj on May 10, 2010, 12:52:39 PM
Shut. up.
All of you.
Castro could legally date your daughter, couldn't he?
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 12:01:36 PM
Starlin is the first Cub player born in 1990 or later to make the MLB. I feel old.
Isn't he the first player born in the '90s to make the majors, on any team?
Quote from: Eli on May 10, 2010, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 12:01:36 PM
Starlin is the first Cub player born in 1990 or later to make the MLB. I feel old.
Isn't he the first player born in the '90s to make the majors, on any team?
Yes.
Quote from: PenPho on May 10, 2010, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: CT III on May 10, 2010, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 10, 2010, 12:52:39 PM
Shut. up.
All of you.
Castro could legally date your daughter, couldn't he?
Not in Arizona.
He's Dominican, idito.
Still looks Mexican enough to give probable cause.
Quote from: Bort on May 10, 2010, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: PenPho on May 10, 2010, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: CT III on May 10, 2010, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 10, 2010, 12:52:39 PM
Shut. up.
All of you.
Castro could legally date your daughter, couldn't he?
Not in Arizona.
He's Dominican, idito.
Still looks Mexican enough to give probable cause.
If he's Dominican, he's probably older than all of us put together.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on May 10, 2010, 01:48:39 PM
Quote from: Bort on May 10, 2010, 01:46:35 PM
Quote from: PenPho on May 10, 2010, 01:41:46 PM
Quote from: CT III on May 10, 2010, 01:28:23 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 01:26:55 PM
Quote from: flannj on May 10, 2010, 12:52:39 PM
Shut. up.
All of you.
Castro could legally date your daughter, couldn't he?
Not in Arizona.
He's Dominican, idito.
Still looks Mexican enough to give probable cause.
If he's Dominican, he's probably older than all of us put together.
You get a slow clap.
Others on the list: Corey Patterson (20) and Greg Maddux (20). (http://www.baseball-reference.com/leaders/Youngest_leagues.shtml)
Quote from: Bort on May 10, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 10, 2010, 12:07:26 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 10, 2010, 12:01:36 PM
Starlin is the first Cub player born in 1990 or later to make the MLB. I feel old.
He might be the first Cub player in my lifetime who is younger than me.
Mine was Kerry Wood.
For me, it would have been Geremi Gonzalez, I reckon. Yay?
Apparently, although I was not aware of it at the time, Terry Adams was the first Cub player/pitcher that was younger than me.
Also, I fucking hated Terry Adams.
Intrepid Reader: Stew
Carl Lundgren
Quote from: Eli on May 10, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
Intrepid Reader: Stew
Carl Lundgren
I think ChuckD got you the anti-PenFoe app for Chuck to Chuck's posts
Quote from: Yeti on May 10, 2010, 04:11:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 10, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
Intrepid Reader: Stew
Carl Lundgren
I think ChuckD got you the anti-PenFoe app for Chuck to Chuck's posts
That'd be worse, because it would mean that I unwittingly made the same joke as Chuck.
Which is what happened. I'll go sit in the corner.
Who is Scott Moore?
Quote from: ChuckD on May 10, 2010, 06:36:16 PM
Who is Scott Moore?
1/3 of a Kyle Farnsworth and 1/2 of a Steve Trachsel 2.
Quote from: Eli on May 10, 2010, 05:02:29 PM
Quote from: Yeti on May 10, 2010, 04:11:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 10, 2010, 03:01:32 PM
Intrepid Reader: Stew
Carl Lundgren
I think ChuckD got you the anti-PenFoe app for Chuck to Chuck's posts
That'd be worse, because it would mean that I unwittingly made the same joke as Chuck.
Which is what happened. I'll go sit in the corner.
It is not just that the first thing that I look at in the paper in the morning is the obituaries, I then check out the year that the deceased was born.
This kid gets to balls that Theriot can only dream of tracking down. And then he nonchalantly sidearms them wide of the bag. It's a good thing Alan Trammell is the best infielding coach in the history of the sport or who knows what kind of bad habits this dude would develop. At some point he might teach one of them the proper way to field a throw from the catcher. One hopes that someone is Castro.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2010, 08:03:42 AM
This kid gets to balls that Theriot can only dream of tracking down. And then he nonchalantly sidearms them wide of the bag. It's a good thing Alan Trammell is the best infielding coach in the history of the sport or who knows what kind of bad habits this dude would develop. At some point he might teach one of them the proper way to field a throw from the catcher. One hopes that someone is Castro.
THIS.
If Trammel is worth a shit, he'll teach Castro to stay home, on the bag, on throws to second from the catcher on attempted steals. I heard on the radio that Castro apparently did one of those ghey-assed, jump out-out-in-front-of-the-bag and then sweep back for a diving tag attempt on a Brandon Phillips stolen base. Just because all the kids are doing it doesn't make it right. That shit needs to stop yesterday.
Quote from: MAD on May 11, 2010, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2010, 08:03:42 AM
This kid gets to balls that Theriot can only dream of tracking down. And then he nonchalantly sidearms them wide of the bag. It's a good thing Alan Trammell is the best infielding coach in the history of the sport or who knows what kind of bad habits this dude would develop. At some point he might teach one of them the proper way to field a throw from the catcher. One hopes that someone is Castro.
THIS.
If Trammel is worth a shit, he'll teach Castro to stay home, on the bag, on throws to second from the catcher on attempted steals. I heard on the radio that Castro apparently did one of those ghey-assed, jump out-out-in-front-of-the-bag and then sweep back for a diving tag attempt on a Brandon Phillips stolen base. Just because all the kids are doing it doesn't make it right. That shit needs to stop yesterday.
I don't normally encourage kids to STAY OFF HUEY'S LAWN, but...
THIS.
Quote from: Bort on May 11, 2010, 08:33:04 AM
Quote from: MAD on May 11, 2010, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2010, 08:03:42 AM
This kid gets to balls that Theriot can only dream of tracking down. And then he nonchalantly sidearms them wide of the bag. It's a good thing Alan Trammell is the best infielding coach in the history of the sport or who knows what kind of bad habits this dude would develop. At some point he might teach one of them the proper way to field a throw from the catcher. One hopes that someone is Castro.
THIS.
If Trammel is worth a shit, he'll teach Castro to stay home, on the bag, on throws to second from the catcher on attempted steals. I heard on the radio that Castro apparently did one of those ghey-assed, jump out-out-in-front-of-the-bag and then sweep back for a diving tag attempt on a Brandon Phillips stolen base. Just because all the kids are doing it doesn't make it right. That shit needs to stop yesterday.
I don't normally encourage kids to STAY OFF HUEY'S LAWN, but...
THIS.
At least he got eight whole innings before the idiots at Wrigley booed him. Fuck Cubs fans.
Quote from: MAD on May 11, 2010, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2010, 08:03:42 AM
This kid gets to balls that Theriot can only dream of tracking down. And then he nonchalantly sidearms them wide of the bag. It's a good thing Alan Trammell is the best infielding coach in the history of the sport or who knows what kind of bad habits this dude would develop. At some point he might teach one of them the proper way to field a throw from the catcher. One hopes that someone is Castro.
THIS.
If Trammel is worth a shit, he'll teach Castro to stay home, on the bag, on throws to second from the catcher on attempted steals. I heard on the radio that Castro apparently did one of those ghey-assed, jump out-out-in-front-of-the-bag and then sweep back for a diving tag attempt on a Brandon Phillips stolen base. Just because all the kids are doing it doesn't make it right. That shit needs to stop yesterday.
So much for not caring...
Quote from: Oleg on May 11, 2010, 08:59:34 AM
Quote from: MAD on May 11, 2010, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2010, 08:03:42 AM
This kid gets to balls that Theriot can only dream of tracking down. And then he nonchalantly sidearms them wide of the bag. It's a good thing Alan Trammell is the best infielding coach in the history of the sport or who knows what kind of bad habits this dude would develop. At some point he might teach one of them the proper way to field a throw from the catcher. One hopes that someone is Castro.
THIS.
If Trammel is worth a shit, he'll teach Castro to stay home, on the bag, on throws to second from the catcher on attempted steals. I heard on the radio that Castro apparently did one of those ghey-assed, jump out-out-in-front-of-the-bag and then sweep back for a diving tag attempt on a Brandon Phillips stolen base. Just because all the kids are doing it doesn't make it right. That shit needs to stop yesterday.
So much for not caring...
I don't care about this year's team. Castro is a future consideration. If he continues to play the position like a softball catcher, I'll stop caring about him, too.
Quote from: MAD on May 11, 2010, 09:02:48 AM
Quote from: Oleg on May 11, 2010, 08:59:34 AM
Quote from: MAD on May 11, 2010, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2010, 08:03:42 AM
This kid gets to balls that Theriot can only dream of tracking down. And then he nonchalantly sidearms them wide of the bag. It's a good thing Alan Trammell is the best infielding coach in the history of the sport or who knows what kind of bad habits this dude would develop. At some point he might teach one of them the proper way to field a throw from the catcher. One hopes that someone is Castro.
THIS.
If Trammel is worth a shit, he'll teach Castro to stay home, on the bag, on throws to second from the catcher on attempted steals. I heard on the radio that Castro apparently did one of those ghey-assed, jump out-out-in-front-of-the-bag and then sweep back for a diving tag attempt on a Brandon Phillips stolen base. Just because all the kids are doing it doesn't make it right. That shit needs to stop yesterday.
So much for not caring...
I don't care about this year's team. Castro is a future consideration. If he continues to play the position like a softball catcher, I'll stop caring about him, too.
Hoe many MLB catchers still block the plate? Don't blame it on softball catchers.
Quote from: MAD on May 11, 2010, 09:02:48 AM
I don't care about this year's team. Castro is a future consideration. If he continues to play the position like a softball catcher, I'll stop caring about him, too.
So, where do they learn their craft? How long have the people in charge of the teaching been in their jobs?
I know Hendry has been here since 1995. Mr. Fleita?
Quote from: fiveouts on May 11, 2010, 08:34:37 AM
Quote from: Bort on May 11, 2010, 08:33:04 AM
Quote from: MAD on May 11, 2010, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2010, 08:03:42 AM
This kid gets to balls that Theriot can only dream of tracking down. And then he nonchalantly sidearms them wide of the bag. It's a good thing Alan Trammell is the best infielding coach in the history of the sport or who knows what kind of bad habits this dude would develop. At some point he might teach one of them the proper way to field a throw from the catcher. One hopes that someone is Castro.
THIS.
If Trammel is worth a shit, he'll teach Castro to stay home, on the bag, on throws to second from the catcher on attempted steals. I heard on the radio that Castro apparently did one of those ghey-assed, jump out-out-in-front-of-the-bag and then sweep back for a diving tag attempt on a Brandon Phillips stolen base. Just because all the kids are doing it doesn't make it right. That shit needs to stop yesterday.
I don't normally encourage kids to STAY OFF HUEY'S LAWN, but...
THIS.
At least he got eight whole innings before the idiots at Wrigley booed him. Fuck Cubs fans.
Really? Fuck this goddamn gutless fucking fanbase.
I saw those three errors and they are nothing some good teaching and a little extra work can't fix. So, he's doomed.
Quote from: fiveouts on May 11, 2010, 08:34:37 AM
Quote from: Bort on May 11, 2010, 08:33:04 AM
Quote from: MAD on May 11, 2010, 08:21:36 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 11, 2010, 08:03:42 AM
This kid gets to balls that Theriot can only dream of tracking down. And then he nonchalantly sidearms them wide of the bag. It's a good thing Alan Trammell is the best infielding coach in the history of the sport or who knows what kind of bad habits this dude would develop. At some point he might teach one of them the proper way to field a throw from the catcher. One hopes that someone is Castro.
THIS.
If Trammel is worth a shit, he'll teach Castro to stay home, on the bag, on throws to second from the catcher on attempted steals. I heard on the radio that Castro apparently did one of those ghey-assed, jump out-out-in-front-of-the-bag and then sweep back for a diving tag attempt on a Brandon Phillips stolen base. Just because all the kids are doing it doesn't make it right. That shit needs to stop yesterday.
I don't normally encourage kids to STAY OFF HUEY'S LAWN, but...
THIS.
At least he got eight whole innings before the idiots at Wrigley booed him. Fuck Cubs fans.
Sorry, but if you make three errors in a single game, you have heartily deserved a dose of booing. I don't care how old he is.
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on May 11, 2010, 09:43:22 AM
Sorry, but if you make three errors in a single game, you have heartily deserved a dose of booing. I don't care how old he is.
I'm gonna guess it was the lack of hustle and the allowing of the runner to move up that got the boos going.
Considering I wasn't watching, I'll just have to guess.
Yeah, I don't have a problem with booing a guy for dogging it.
I don't mind them booing when a guy fucks up. It's when they boo them pre-emptively that bothers me. Like Soriano getting booed during introductions at the home opener. Holy shit, just hang on, in about 20 minutes he'll give you an actual reason to boo.
Quote from: Andy on May 11, 2010, 04:00:52 PM
I don't mind them booing when a guy fucks up. It's when they boo them pre-emptively that bothers me. Like Soriano getting booed during introductions at the home opener. Holy shit, just hang on, in about 20 minutes he'll give you an actual reason to boo.
How about preemptive MOOOOOOing when Cubbie Julie is around?
Quote from: PenPho on May 11, 2010, 04:13:12 PM
Quote from: Andy on May 11, 2010, 04:00:52 PM
I don't mind them booing when a guy fucks up. It's when they boo them pre-emptively that bothers me. Like Soriano getting booed during introductions at the home opener. Holy shit, just hang on, in about 20 minutes he'll give you an actual reason to boo.
How about preemptive MOOOOOOing when Cubbie Julie is around?
BAM. Lawsuit.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on May 11, 2010, 09:48:26 AM
Quote from: Lance Dicksons Arm on May 11, 2010, 09:43:22 AM
Sorry, but if you make three errors in a single game, you have heartily deserved a dose of booing. I don't care how old he is.
I'm gonna guess it was the lack of hustle and the allowing of the runner to move up that got the boos going.
Considering I wasn't watching, I'll just have to guess.
I was there, but I wasn't booing. But he certainly deserved the boos after the Hanley Ramirez "double."
I love this guy. He's up to 50 plate appearances and still has more walks than strikeouts. And there's no way in hell Theriot even gets to that ball for the last out of the 8th last night. Are we sure he came from the Cubs farm system and not some other planet?
Quote from: R-V on May 20, 2010, 10:26:32 AM
I love this guy. He's up to 50 plate appearances and still has more walks than strikeouts. And there's no way in hell Theriot even gets to that ball for the last out of the 8th last night. Are we sure he came from the Cubs farm system and not some other planet?
He's one of ours.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 20, 2010, 06:19:13 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 20, 2010, 10:26:32 AM
I love this guy. He's up to 50 plate appearances and still has more walks than strikeouts. And there's no way in hell Theriot even gets to that ball for the last out of the 8th last night. Are we sure he came from the Cubs farm system and not some other planet?
He's one of ours.
You people are so sensitive about that kind of stuff. We're all brothers, right? One love, bro.
Quote from: powen01 on May 20, 2010, 10:40:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 20, 2010, 06:19:13 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 20, 2010, 10:26:32 AM
I love this guy. He's up to 50 plate appearances and still has more walks than strikeouts. And there's no way in hell Theriot even gets to that ball for the last out of the 8th last night. Are we sure he came from the Cubs farm system and not some other planet?
He's one of ours.
You people are so sensitive about that kind of stuff. We're all brothers, right? One love, bro tribe, y'all.
Eyed Peas of Color'd.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 21, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: powen01 on May 20, 2010, 10:40:16 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 20, 2010, 06:19:13 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 20, 2010, 10:26:32 AM
I love this guy. He's up to 50 plate appearances and still has more walks than strikeouts. And there's no way in hell Theriot even gets to that ball for the last out of the 8th last night. Are we sure he came from the Cubs farm system and not some other planet?
He's one of ours.
You people are so sensitive about that kind of stuff. We're all brothers, right? One love, bro tribe, y'all.
Eyed Peas of Color'd.
Fuck HUGH.
ATTA KID
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Too bad he's keeping that stud Mike Fontenot on the bench.
Quote from: CT III on May 26, 2010, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Too bad he's keeping that stud Mike Fontenot on the bench.
So, Starlin Castro doesn't suck? What a time to be alive.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 26, 2010, 10:08:58 AM
Quote from: CT III on May 26, 2010, 09:43:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Too bad he's keeping that stud Mike Fontenot on the bench.
So, Starlin Castro doesn't suck? What a time to be alive.
I've heard next week Starlin is going to be in a bikini. Yowza.
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2010, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Quote from: Brownie on May 26, 2010, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2010, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 26, 2010, 11:54:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 26, 2010, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2010, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 26, 2010, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 26, 2010, 11:54:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 26, 2010, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2010, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Quote from: Oleg on May 26, 2010, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 26, 2010, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 26, 2010, 11:54:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 26, 2010, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2010, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
Quote from: Bort on May 26, 2010, 03:48:18 PM
Quote from: Oleg on May 26, 2010, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on May 26, 2010, 03:22:03 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on May 26, 2010, 11:54:37 AM
Quote from: Brownie on May 26, 2010, 11:41:33 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 26, 2010, 10:46:31 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 26, 2010, 09:20:39 AM
Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
What's wrong with those statistics?
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Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
What's wrong with those statistics?
I'm just interpreting Kermit's headache.
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Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
What's wrong with those statistics?
I'm just interpreting Kermit's headache.
Now I'm getting Kermit's headache.
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Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
What's wrong with those statistics?
I'm just interpreting Kermit's headache.
Now I'm getting Kermit's headache.
Is this your way of saying you're not putting out tonight?
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Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
Yeah. I thought it was pretty clear.
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Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
Yeah. I thought it was pretty clear.
Seriously, what's wrong with those statistics? Other than the fact that they're a small sample size, they're good, right? Other than minor league numbers, that's all I've got to go on for them.
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Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
Yeah. I thought it was pretty clear.
Seriously, what's wrong with those statistics? Other than the fact that they're a small sample size, they're good, right? Other than minor league numbers, that's all I've got to go on for them.
There's nothing wrong with them. I'm just busting your balls.
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Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
Yeah. I thought it was pretty clear.
Seriously, what's wrong with those statistics? Other than the fact that they're a small sample size, they're good, right? Other than minor league numbers, that's all I've got to go on for them.
There's nothing wrong with them. I'm just busting your balls.
And...
scene.
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Len informed me last night that Starlin has reached base every game since he's been called up. The two games that he went hitless/walkless he reached on errors by Furcal and our old bud RonCe.
Look, you're not focused on the real story here. He makes too many errors. He is KILLING this team. They're an abysmal 9-8 since they called him up. Take him and that piece of shit Soriano and fire them into oblivion.
Nor did you consider that he's given them 17 games of clogging the bases.
Holy dicks, has it been 17 games already? Baseball Reference says 16, but still. I haven't been doing a whole lot of Cub watching other than watching the videos on my MLB app, so I checked out Starlin's lines so far. Go Starlin:
.350/.405/.500/.909/133, a double and a triple and two dongs.
He's made five errors, but three in one game, right? Not that errors are good to judge fielding, but whatevs. I'm very impressed with his discipline at the plate. 6/6 K/BB ratio isn't bad at all for a 20 year old, right? I know it's been just 66 PAs, but the bonar...it grows.
And just for poops and giggles, TyCo is .313/.370/.609/.979/147, 4 dongs, 5 doubles and a trey. DOUBLE PROSPECT BONARS.
Does it give you as big a headache as it gives me when you look at statistics?
Why would you get a headache when IAN looks at statistics?
Because then IAN talks about statistics?
Yeah. I thought it was pretty clear.
Seriously, what's wrong with those statistics? Other than the fact that they're a small sample size, they're good, right? Other than minor league numbers, that's all I've got to go on for them.
There's nothing wrong with them. I'm just busting your balls.
Pan to IAN, who has a look of "OOOOOOOHHHHHH" on his face
And... scene.
Starlin is sexy:
Rookies 20 & Under (http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/CRRuq): 14th
Rookies 21 & Under (http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/XaZ3B): 29th
Rookies 22 & Under (http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/Ea6EW): 46th
Cubs Rookies 25 & Under (http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/FzdMS): 4th
Quote from: Yeti on August 06, 2010, 12:39:36 PM
Starlin is sexy:
Rookies 20 & Under (http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/CRRuq): 14th
Rookies 21 & Under (http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/XaZ3B): 29th
Rookies 22 & Under (http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/Ea6EW): 46th
Cubs Rookies 25 & Under (http://www.baseball-reference.com/play-index/shareit/FzdMS): 4th
I'll be impressed when he passes Cesar Cedeno.
He's 29 PAs short of being 3rd in the NL in BA. He's averaged 3.97 PA/game. So, on that pace, he'll crack the requirements (3.1 PA/team game) of the leaderboard in game 142. That's all I'm going to look forward to now.
Quote from: Yeti on August 06, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
He's 29 PAs short of being 3rd in the NL in BA. He's averaged 3.97 PA/game. So, on that pace, he'll crack the requirements (3.1 PA/team game) of the leaderboard in game 142. That's all I'm going to look forward to now.
I hope the little fucker gets braces.
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Quote from: Yeti on August 06, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
He's 29 PAs short of being 3rd in the NL in BA. He's averaged 3.97 PA/game. So, on that pace, he'll crack the requirements (3.1 PA/team game) of the leaderboard in game 142. That's all I'm going to look forward to now.
I hope the little fucker gets braces.
I hope Soriano lets him take the top bunk.
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Quote from: Yeti on August 06, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
He's 29 PAs short of being 3rd in the NL in BA. He's averaged 3.97 PA/game. So, on that pace, he'll crack the requirements (3.1 PA/team game) of the leaderboard in game 142. That's all I'm going to look forward to now.
I hope the little fucker gets braces.
I hope Soriano lets him take the top bunk.
I hope no child molester from Desipio gets his hand down the kid's pj's.
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Quote from: PenPho on August 06, 2010, 01:04:04 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 06, 2010, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 06, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
He's 29 PAs short of being 3rd in the NL in BA. He's averaged 3.97 PA/game. So, on that pace, he'll crack the requirements (3.1 PA/team game) of the leaderboard in game 142. That's all I'm going to look forward to now.
I hope the little fucker gets braces.
I hope Soriano lets him take the top bunk.
I hope no child molester from Desipio gets his hand down the kid's pj's.
What about up them?
Quote from: Yeti on August 06, 2010, 01:47:52 PM
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Quote from: PenPho on August 06, 2010, 01:04:04 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 06, 2010, 12:57:13 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 06, 2010, 12:53:17 PM
He's 29 PAs short of being 3rd in the NL in BA. He's averaged 3.97 PA/game. So, on that pace, he'll crack the requirements (3.1 PA/team game) of the leaderboard in game 142. That's all I'm going to look forward to now.
I hope the little fucker gets braces.
I hope Soriano lets him take the top bunk.
I hope no child molester from Desipio gets his hand down the kid's pj's.
What about up them?
Ahoy, ya sea slag.
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
BONAR
Quote from: Night Man on August 11, 2010, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
That gift certificate aint all it's cracked up to be, I bet. The other day they showed a close up, and I could swear I saw a whisker on his face. Could have been an eyelash that fell off. I don't know. I need more information. (googles Phil Rogers on Twitter)
BONAR
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 11, 2010, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 11, 2010, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
BONAR
That gift certificate aint all it's cracked up to be, I bet. The other day they showed a close up, and I could swear I saw a whisker on his face. Could have been an eyelash that fell off. I don't know. I need more information. (googles Phil Rogers on Twitter)
Huh?
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 11, 2010, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 11, 2010, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
That gift certificate aint all it's cracked up to be, I bet. The other day they showed a close up, and I could swear I saw a whisker on his face. Could have been an eyelash that fell off. I don't know. I need more information. (googles Phil Rogers on Twitter)
BONAR
Quit putting words in my mouth, LeBron lover.
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
More importantly, he's tied for 8th in sac flies among major league shortstops. Only 3 behind Orlando Cabrera and 2 behind Jerry Hairston. Hell of an accomplishment considering his relatively low number of plate appearances.
Quote from: R-V on August 11, 2010, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
More importantly, he's tied for 8th in sac flies among major league shortstops. Only 3 behind Orlando Cabrera and 2 behind Jerry Hairston. Hell of an accomplishment considering his relatively low number of plate appearances.
Man, Adam Dunn could learn a thing or two from Castro about knocking those guys in from third with fly outs.
Quote from: PANK! on August 11, 2010, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: R-V on August 11, 2010, 02:37:57 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
More importantly, he's tied for 8th in sac flies among major league shortstops. Only 3 behind Orlando Cabrera and 2 behind Jerry Hairston. Hell of an accomplishment considering his relatively low number of plate appearances.
Man, Adam Dunn could learn a thing or two from Castro about knocking those guys in from third with fly outs.
Sounds like he'd be an even better 2B.
In the abstract.
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
Some serious competition for ROY this year. I think maybe Posey or Heyward have the benefit of playing key roles on contending teams. Niether would be a bad pick. Mike Stanton and Starlin Castro are doing stuff every day that makes you think they'll be superstars in this league for a long, long time.
By now Strasburgh is probably less likely to win the award.
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
So many times I've been faced with the same self-query. But when I slap down the first payment on my Buena Park condo with nothing but shelf-turd nuggets, I'll just flash my solid-gold grin and remember that it's all been worthwhile. In the abstract.
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
Speaking of gold nuggets found in unexpected places, here's another gold prospect nugget:
Chris Archer at Tennessee this year:
46 IP
0.58 ERA
.169 AVG against
Overall, he has a 1.97 ERA this year at two levels. ALSO, when I went to his MiLB page to find his stats, I saw his picture for the first time and it turns out that he's black. This was news to me.
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
Speaking of gold nuggets found in unexpected places, here's another gold prospect nugget:
Chris Archer at Tennessee this year:
46 IP
0.58 ERA
.169 AVG against
Overall, he has a 1.97 ERA this year at two levels. ALSO, when I went to his MiLB page to find his stats, I saw his picture for the first time and it turns out that he's black. This was news to me.
And Darwin Barney's white. These young Cubs are a confusing bunch.
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
Speaking of gold nuggets found in unexpected places, here's another gold prospect nugget:
Chris Archer at Tennessee this year:
46 IP
0.58 ERA
.169 AVG against
Overall, he has a 1.97 ERA this year at two levels. ALSO, when I went to his MiLB page to find his stats, I saw his picture for the first time and it turns out that he's black. This was news to me.
And Darwin Barney's white. These young Cubs are a confusing bunch.
Don't these fucking parents know that there are designated white and black names in this country? Next thing you know, RV's gonna name his kid: DeJackson (or LaFonda, if my next girlfriend)
Darwin Barney looks bi-racial to me.
Quote from: Yeti on August 13, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
Speaking of gold nuggets found in unexpected places, here's another gold prospect nugget:
Chris Archer at Tennessee this year:
46 IP
0.58 ERA
.169 AVG against
Overall, he has a 1.97 ERA this year at two levels. ALSO, when I went to his MiLB page to find his stats, I saw his picture for the first time and it turns out that he's black. This was news to me.
And Darwin Barney's white. These young Cubs are a confusing bunch.
Don't these fucking parents know that there are designated white and black names in this country? Next thing you know, RV's gonna name his kid: DeJackson (or LaFonda, if my next girlfriend)
Seriously THIS.
I learned on the Dan Patrick show this AM that Ryan Grant's middle name is Brett.
Former President's Last Name = Black
Ryan Brett = White
Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.
Quote from: PenPho on August 13, 2010, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 13, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
Speaking of gold nuggets found in unexpected places, here's another gold prospect nugget:
Chris Archer at Tennessee this year:
46 IP
0.58 ERA
.169 AVG against
Overall, he has a 1.97 ERA this year at two levels. ALSO, when I went to his MiLB page to find his stats, I saw his picture for the first time and it turns out that he's black. This was news to me.
And Darwin Barney's white. These young Cubs are a confusing bunch.
Don't these fucking parents know that there are designated white and black names in this country? Next thing you know, RV's gonna name his kid: DeJackson (or LaFonda, if my next girlfriend)
Seriously THIS.
I learned on the Dan Patrick show this AM that Ryan Grant's middle name is Brett.
Former President's Last Name = Black
Ryan Brett = White
Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.
If had had bigger balls, or any at all, I'd love to name my next kid Juan or Ramon or something hispanic.
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: PenPho on August 13, 2010, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 13, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
Speaking of gold nuggets found in unexpected places, here's another gold prospect nugget:
Chris Archer at Tennessee this year:
46 IP
0.58 ERA
.169 AVG against
Overall, he has a 1.97 ERA this year at two levels. ALSO, when I went to his MiLB page to find his stats, I saw his picture for the first time and it turns out that he's black. This was news to me.
And Darwin Barney's white. These young Cubs are a confusing bunch.
Don't these fucking parents know that there are designated white and black names in this country? Next thing you know, RV's gonna name his kid: DeJackson (or LaFonda, if my next girlfriend)
Seriously THIS.
I learned on the Dan Patrick show this AM that Ryan Grant's middle name is Brett.
Former President's Last Name = Black
Ryan Brett = White
Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.
If had had bigger balls, or any at all, I'd love to name my next kid Juan or Ramon or something hispanic.
Redondo FTW
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: PenPho on August 13, 2010, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 13, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
Speaking of gold nuggets found in unexpected places, here's another gold prospect nugget:
Chris Archer at Tennessee this year:
46 IP
0.58 ERA
.169 AVG against
Overall, he has a 1.97 ERA this year at two levels. ALSO, when I went to his MiLB page to find his stats, I saw his picture for the first time and it turns out that he's black. This was news to me.
And Darwin Barney's white. These young Cubs are a confusing bunch.
Don't these fucking parents know that there are designated white and black names in this country? Next thing you know, RV's gonna name his kid: DeJackson (or LaFonda, if my next girlfriend)
Seriously THIS.
I learned on the Dan Patrick show this AM that Ryan Grant's middle name is Brett.
Former President's Last Name = Black
Ryan Brett = White
Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.
If had had bigger balls, or any at all, I'd love to name my next kid Juan or Ramon or something hispanic.
Jesus Jr.
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2010, 11:55:19 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 11:47:39 AM
Quote from: PenPho on August 13, 2010, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 13, 2010, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 13, 2010, 10:31:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 10:20:48 AM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 08:37:00 AM
This thread needs pretty much a daily bump. 16 multi-hit games in the last month, and he's 7th in value among MLB shortstops despite being 24th in plate appearances. Monster splooge.
It's a lot like finding a gold nugget in your monster shelf-turd. But then you have to ask, "Why am I digging through my shit in the first place?"
Speaking of gold nuggets found in unexpected places, here's another gold prospect nugget:
Chris Archer at Tennessee this year:
46 IP
0.58 ERA
.169 AVG against
Overall, he has a 1.97 ERA this year at two levels. ALSO, when I went to his MiLB page to find his stats, I saw his picture for the first time and it turns out that he's black. This was news to me.
And Darwin Barney's white. These young Cubs are a confusing bunch.
Don't these fucking parents know that there are designated white and black names in this country? Next thing you know, RV's gonna name his kid: DeJackson (or LaFonda, if my next girlfriend)
Seriously THIS.
I learned on the Dan Patrick show this AM that Ryan Grant's middle name is Brett.
Former President's Last Name = Black
Ryan Brett = White
Cats and dogs living together, mass hysteria.
If had had bigger balls, or any at all, I'd love to name my next kid Juan or Ramon or something hispanic.
Jesus Jr.
It'll be that much less hispanic since I pronounce mine with a hard J.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 10:44:17 AM
Darwin Barney looks bi-racial to me.
I thought all this was a joke, but I actually just went to check on Darwin's MLB page and sho nuff he's a honkey. For some reason I thought I'd seen him called up before and swore he was a black. Maybe that was Bobby Scales? They all look something something.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 13, 2010, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 10:44:17 AM
Darwin Barney looks bi-racial to me.
I thought all this was a joke, but I actually just went to check on Darwin's MLB page and sho nuff he's a honkey. For some reason I thought I'd seen him called up before and swore he was a black. Maybe that was Bobby Scales? They all look something something.
Maybe you've never seen a photo of Bobby Scales.
(http://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Entertainment/Images/Morgan-Freeman-God.jpg)
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
<--------
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 13, 2010, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
<--------
He said "rubes", not "hilljacks".
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
Maybe you could just borrow Kurt's.
Fag.
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 13, 2010, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
<--------
He said "rubes", not "hilljacks".
Lot's of meatballs taking pot shots at the hayseeds today. They get all cagey when their governors are on trial. Especailly toward the end.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 13, 2010, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
<--------
He said "rubes", not "hilljacks".
Lot's of meatballs taking pot shots at the hayseeds today. They get all cagey when their governors are on trial. Especailly toward the end.
I don't think that "cagey" means what you think it means.
Quote from: Slaky on August 13, 2010, 12:04:01 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2010, 11:55:19 AM
Jesus Jr.
It'll be that much less hispanic since I pronounce mine with a hard J.
QuoteDennis: This Jew's in for a ton of work.
Mac and Charlie: WHOA!
Dennis: Whoa, what?
Mac: Come on, man! You can't say things like that!
Dennis: I don't know what I said. What'd I say?
Charlie: Uh, you dropped a hard "J" on us.
Quote from: CT III on August 13, 2010, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 13, 2010, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
<--------
He said "rubes", not "hilljacks".
Lot's of meatballs taking pot shots at the hayseeds today. They get all cagey when their governors are on trial. Especailly toward the end.
I don't think that "cagey" means what you think it means.
Weary, cautious, displaying self-interest when dealing with others.
Excuse me, soccer mom. The meatballs and mouthbreathers are having our slapfight now. We'll ask if we want you involved in our semantic struggles.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Excuse me, soccer mom.
Is this your new "thing"?
Using words that make no sense in the context in which you're using them?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 13, 2010, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Excuse me, soccer mom.
Is this your new "thing"?
Using words that make no sense in the context in which you're using them?
People need to stop having things.
Yeah, take that in whatever context you want. Even you, Huey. We know too much about your "thing."
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 13, 2010, 02:22:43 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 13, 2010, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Excuse me, soccer mom.
Is this your new "thing"?
Using words that make no sense in the context in which you're using them?
People need to stop having things.
Yeah, take that in whatever context you want. Even you, Huey. We know too much about your "thing."
Gil's something is the something something something...
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 13, 2010, 02:20:22 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Excuse me, soccer mom.
Is this your new "thing"?
Using words that make no sense in the context in which you're using them?
You sound a little asshurt.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 13, 2010, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 13, 2010, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
<--------
He said "rubes", not "hilljacks".
Lot's of meatballs taking pot shots at the hayseeds today. They get all cagey when their governors are on trial. Especailly toward the end.
I don't think that "cagey" means what you think it means.
Weary, cautious, displaying self-interest when dealing with others.
Excuse me, soccer mom. The meatballs and mouthbreathers are having our slapfight now. We'll ask if we want you involved in our semantic struggles.
You can't "own" a slapfight, man.
Quote from: CT III on August 13, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 13, 2010, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 13, 2010, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
<--------
He said "rubes", not "hilljacks".
Lot's of meatballs taking pot shots at the hayseeds today. They get all cagey when their governors are on trial. Especailly toward the end.
I don't think that "cagey" means what you think it means.
Weary, cautious, displaying self-interest when dealing with others.
Excuse me, soccer mom. The meatballs and mouthbreathers are having our slapfight now. We'll ask if we want you involved in our semantic struggles.
You can't "own" a slapfight, man.
But you can get "owned"
in a slapfight, sweatervest. I suggest you stand aside.
Quote from: CT III on August 13, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 13, 2010, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 13, 2010, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
<--------
He said "rubes", not "hilljacks".
Lot's of meatballs taking pot shots at the hayseeds today. They get all cagey when their governors are on trial. Especailly toward the end.
I don't think that "cagey" means what you think it means.
Weary, cautious, displaying self-interest when dealing with others.
Excuse me, soccer mom. The meatballs and mouthbreathers are having our slapfight now. We'll ask if we want you involved in our semantic struggles.
You can't "own" a slapfight, man.
That's because he's not a penniless sweatervest.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 03:29:48 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 13, 2010, 03:24:00 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 02:08:09 PM
Quote from: CT III on August 13, 2010, 12:53:43 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:49:07 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 13, 2010, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on August 13, 2010, 12:36:44 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 12:34:05 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 13, 2010, 12:32:07 PM
Castro's 13 should be the only jersey the Cubs even bother trying to sell at this point.
Eh, Marmol jerseys are still acceptable. Some rubes will walk around in Colvin shirts too. I've been thinking about getting a Dawson Expos jersey. The light blue one? Would look sweet with a Cubs cap.
<--------
He said "rubes", not "hilljacks".
Lot's of meatballs taking pot shots at the hayseeds today. They get all cagey when their governors are on trial. Especailly toward the end.
I don't think that "cagey" means what you think it means.
Weary, cautious, displaying self-interest when dealing with others.
Excuse me, soccer mom. The meatballs and mouthbreathers are having our slapfight now. We'll ask if we want you involved in our semantic struggles.
You can't "own" a slapfight, man.
But you can get "owned" in a slapfight, sweatervest. I suggest you stand aside.
Nah, I don't think I'll be doing that.
I'm enjoying the hell out of this.
Quote from: Tonker on August 13, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
I'm enjoying the hell out of this.
You think Starlin would be proud of what we've done with his sploogefest?
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 13, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
I'm enjoying the hell out of this.
You think Starlin would be proud of what we've done with his sploogefest?
Starlin is probably wondering who the hooplehead is who brought Blagojevich into his thread.
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 13, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
I'm enjoying the hell out of this.
You think Starlin would be proud of what we've done with his sploogefest?
Starlin is probably wondering who the hooplehead is who brought Blagojevich into his thread.
I just knew it would get buttocks a chafin'. Lo and behold.
Guys from small towns are hayseeds who like shirts with white guys numbers on them. Guys from the city are meatballs who voted Blago all the way. Guys from the suburbs wear sweatervests and drive minivans. It's not complicated. It makes for a speedy Friday at the office. There's a whole thing of Bacitracin in the medicine cabinet if anybody needs it. And I'm an annoying jerk who doesn't make sense. It's all good.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 05:00:27 PM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 13, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
I'm enjoying the hell out of this.
You think Starlin would be proud of what we've done with his sploogefest?
Starlin is probably wondering who the hooplehead is who brought Blagojevich into his thread.
I just knew it would get buttocks a chafin'. Lo and behold.
Guys from small towns are hayseeds who like shirts with white guys numbers on them. Guys from the city are meatballs who voted Blago all the way. Guys from the suburbs wear sweatervests and drive minivans. It's not complicated. It makes for a speedy Friday at the office. There's a whole thing of Bacitracin in the medicine cabinet if anybody needs it. And I'm an annoying jerk who doesn't make sense. It's all good.
Fuku and Sosa in my closet, homie.
Quote from: Yeti on August 13, 2010, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 05:00:27 PM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 13, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
I'm enjoying the hell out of this.
You think Starlin would be proud of what we've done with his sploogefest?
Starlin is probably wondering who the hooplehead is who brought Blagojevich into his thread.
I just knew it would get buttocks a chafin'. Lo and behold.
Guys from small towns are hayseeds who like shirts with white guys numbers on them. Guys from the city are meatballs who voted Blago all the way. Guys from the suburbs wear sweatervests and drive minivans. It's not complicated. It makes for a speedy Friday at the office. There's a whole thing of Bacitracin in the medicine cabinet if anybody needs it. And I'm an annoying jerk who doesn't make sense. It's all good.
Fuku and Sosa in my closet, homie.
Way to buck the system, bro shot.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 05:00:27 PM
Guys from small towns are hayseeds who like shirts with white guys numbers on them.
Korean is the new white? Says the lone guy admitting he bought a Choi Jersey.
Quote from: BBM on August 13, 2010, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 05:00:27 PM
Guys from small towns are hayseeds who like shirts with white guys numbers on them.
Korean is the new white? Says the lone guy admitting he bought a Choi Jersey.
BEARS RADIOOOOOOOOooo WBBM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 05:32:57 PM
Quote from: Yeti on August 13, 2010, 05:12:19 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 05:00:27 PM
Quote from: R-V on August 13, 2010, 04:35:02 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 13, 2010, 04:11:20 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 13, 2010, 03:42:34 PM
I'm enjoying the hell out of this.
You think Starlin would be proud of what we've done with his sploogefest?
Starlin is probably wondering who the hooplehead is who brought Blagojevich into his thread.
I just knew it would get buttocks a chafin'. Lo and behold.
Guys from small towns are hayseeds who like shirts with white guys numbers on them. Guys from the city are meatballs who voted Blago all the way. Guys from the suburbs wear sweatervests and drive minivans. It's not complicated. It makes for a speedy Friday at the office. There's a whole thing of Bacitracin in the medicine cabinet if anybody needs it. And I'm an annoying jerk who doesn't make sense. It's all good.
Fuku and Sosa in my closet, homie.
Way to buck the system, bro shot.
<-----------------RE. BEL.
Bump for the man that Pat and Ron told me is about to become eligible for the race for the batting title.
Castro: .316
Joey Votto (current NL leader): .323.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on August 23, 2010, 09:57:55 PM
Bump for the man that Pat and Ron told me is about to become eligible for the race for the batting title.
Castro: .316
Joey Votto (current NL leader): .323.
Sure, let him hit .318 this year, win a couple batting titles, then we'll see.
Still fucking pissed off about Madlock being dealt for that shitbag Bobby Murcer
QuoteCHICAGO -- In the eighth inning Saturday, the Cubs had runners on first and second and none out against the Mets, and rookie Starlin Castro was at the plate.
Castro is the Cubs' hottest hitter, ranked third in the National League in batting with a .321 average. But manager Mike Quade signaled for a bunt.
Castro did, and was successful. The runs didn't score, but the Cubs held on to win. When Quade saw his brother later Saturday night, he asked why he called for a bunt. A few fans asked as well.
"It was a teaching moment," Quade said.
Sometimes fans -- and manager's brothers, too -- have to remember Castro is 20 and skipped the Triple-A level.
It's important to teach youngsters the Cubs' long tradition of not scoring runs.
Quote from: Night Man on September 05, 2010, 02:25:30 PM
QuoteCHICAGO -- In the eighth inning Saturday, the Cubs had runners on first and second and none out against the Mets, and rookie Starlin Castro was at the plate.
Castro is the Cubs' hottest hitter, ranked third in the National League in batting with a .321 average. But manager Mike Quade signaled for a bunt.
Castro did, and was successful. The runs didn't score, but the Cubs held on to win. When Quade saw his brother later Saturday night, he asked why he called for a bunt. A few fans asked as well.
"It was a teaching moment," Quade said.
Sometimes fans -- and manager's brothers, too -- have to remember Castro is 20 and skipped the Triple-A level.
It's important to teach youngsters the Cubs' long tradition of not scoring runs.
Christ, who wrote that, Dave van Dyck?
FUCKING BUNTS AND FUCKING "TEACHING MOMENTS"... FUCK
Quote from: Yeti on September 05, 2010, 02:51:48 PM
FUCKING BUNTS AND FUCKING "TEACHING MOMENTS"... FUCK
Did you intentionally wait until they were 304 games out of first place to blow your top?
Quote from: CT III on September 05, 2010, 02:38:24 PM
Quote from: Night Man on September 05, 2010, 02:25:30 PM
QuoteCHICAGO -- In the eighth inning Saturday, the Cubs had runners on first and second and none out against the Mets, and rookie Starlin Castro was at the plate.
Castro is the Cubs' hottest hitter, ranked third in the National League in batting with a .321 average. But manager Mike Quade signaled for a bunt.
Castro did, and was successful. The runs didn't score, but the Cubs held on to win. When Quade saw his brother later Saturday night, he asked why he called for a bunt. A few fans asked as well.
"It was a teaching moment," Quade said.
Sometimes fans -- and manager's brothers, too -- have to remember Castro is 20 and skipped the Triple-A level.
It's important to teach youngsters the Cubs' long tradition of not scoring runs.
Christ, who wrote that, Dave van Dyck?
I'm just wondering what Quade's rules are for who is "established" enough to swing the bat in that situation and who isn't.
Quote"The more you see me, I'm not a bunt guy. When I got home last night my brother asked me and looked at me and said, 'Bunt him?' I said it was a teachable moment. I wanted him to give himself up, not to mention we had some pretty hot hitters behind him."
If Castro were an established player?
"He would have hit," Mike said. "In the minor leagues, you get players like him and you never bunt."
Quote from: R-V on September 05, 2010, 10:29:18 PM
Quote from: CT III on September 05, 2010, 02:38:24 PM
Quote from: Night Man on September 05, 2010, 02:25:30 PM
QuoteCHICAGO -- In the eighth inning Saturday, the Cubs had runners on first and second and none out against the Mets, and rookie Starlin Castro was at the plate.
Castro is the Cubs' hottest hitter, ranked third in the National League in batting with a .321 average. But manager Mike Quade signaled for a bunt.
Castro did, and was successful. The runs didn't score, but the Cubs held on to win. When Quade saw his brother later Saturday night, he asked why he called for a bunt. A few fans asked as well.
"It was a teaching moment," Quade said.
Sometimes fans -- and manager's brothers, too -- have to remember Castro is 20 and skipped the Triple-A level.
It's important to teach youngsters the Cubs' long tradition of not scoring runs.
Christ, who wrote that, Dave van Dyck?
I'm just wondering what Quade's rules are for who is "established" enough to swing the bat in that situation and who isn't.
Quote"The more you see me, I'm not a bunt guy. When I got home last night my brother asked me and looked at me and said, 'Bunt him?' I said it was a teachable moment. I wanted him to give himself up, not to mention we had some pretty hot hitters behind him."
If Castro were an established player?
"He would have hit," Mike said. "In the minor leagues, you get players like him and you never bunt."
Sweet, Mike Quade may be insane. In which case I'm okay with this.
Or, he realized in hindsight it was a stupid thing to do and now he's doing his best to publically justify it since he's, you know, auditioning for a job next year.
Quote from: Slaky on September 05, 2010, 07:21:16 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 05, 2010, 02:51:48 PM
FUCKING BUNTS AND FUCKING "TEACHING MOMENTS"... FUCK
Did you intentionally wait until they were 304 games out of first place to blow your top?
Yea, my bad. Bad day and it seemed like a good time to show my displeasure
So they benched him for mental mistakes? Anyone who still watches baseball care to tell me what he did that was so dumb?
I think when he walked off of first base thinking the inning was over and there were really only two outs is probably the one that got him a seat.
On Saturday he came out way in front of second base on a steal and couldn't tag the one-legged Carlos Beltran at second as Luis Castillo strolled down the line to "steal" home.
He probably needs a day off. Two was just the Cubs being fucking morons.
I actually think they'd give him a pass on the one where he lost track of outs. But the thing where he sneaks in front of the bag is something he's been doing all year. Then again, Theriot and Fontenot did it all the time, so he probably thinks he'll get traded to a playoff contender if he keeps it up.
Quote from: Andy on September 06, 2010, 08:48:42 PM
I think when he walked off of first base thinking the inning was over and there were really only two outs is probably the one that got him a seat.
On Saturday he came out way in front of second base on a steal and couldn't tag the one-legged Carlos Beltran at second as Luis Castillo strolled down the line to "steal" home.
He probably needs a day off. Two was just the Cubs being fucking morons.
I actually think they'd give him a pass on the one where he lost track of outs. But the thing where he sneaks in front of the bag is something he's been doing all year. Then again, Theriot and Fontenot did it all the time, so he probably thinks he'll get traded to a playoff contender if he keeps it up.
THI. If I cared about the 2010 Cubs at all I'd be pissed at all of Quade's little life lessons he's doling out. He's using "his methods" for the sake of using methods; he has no idea if any of it works on major leaguers yet. Letting a rookie throw 117 pitches in a meaningless September game between two bad teams is a really great lesson. Punishing Castro for being a 20-year-old rookie by sitting him for two games isn't going to help him learn. Or maybe two games' benching is the going rate for mistakes now, which means Soriano should be sitting thanks to his dumb error in left.
Really, I think he wants Castro to thank him profusely for taking him under his wing and showing him the ropes, just in case he ever gives a Hall of Fame induction speech someday.
*ziiiiiiiip*
Star Lincastro is already my favorite Cub. Since May.
Also, damn did I have a lot of QuadeRage.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 16, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
Star Lincastro is already my favorite Cub. Since May.
Also, damn did I have a lot of QuadeRage.
Why would Derrick May be your favorite anything? And did Quade do something wrong in this game? Looked solid to me.
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 16, 2011, 10:28:19 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 16, 2011, 10:16:18 PM
Star Lincastro is already my favorite Cub. Since May.
Also, damn did I have a lot of QuadeRage.
Why would Derrick May be your favorite anything? And did Quade do something wrong in this game? Looked solid to me.
The month of May, you ignorant slut.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on September 06, 2010, 10:23:49 PM
Quote from: Andy on September 06, 2010, 08:48:42 PM
I think when he walked off of first base thinking the inning was over and there were really only two outs is probably the one that got him a seat.
On Saturday he came out way in front of second base on a steal and couldn't tag the one-legged Carlos Beltran at second as Luis Castillo strolled down the line to "steal" home.
He probably needs a day off. Two was just the Cubs being fucking morons.
I actually think they'd give him a pass on the one where he lost track of outs. But the thing where he sneaks in front of the bag is something he's been doing all year. Then again, Theriot and Fontenot did it all the time, so he probably thinks he'll get traded to a playoff contender if he keeps it up.
THI. If I cared about the 2010 Cubs at all I'd be pissed at all of Quade's little life lessons he's doling out. He's using "his methods" for the sake of using methods; he has no idea if any of it works on major leaguers yet. Letting a rookie throw 117 pitches in a meaningless September game between two bad teams is a really great lesson. Punishing Castro for being a 20-year-old rookie by sitting him for two games isn't going to help him learn. Or maybe two games' benching is the going rate for mistakes now, which means Soriano should be sitting thanks to his dumb error in left.
Really, I think he wants Castro to thank him profusely for taking him under his wing and showing him the ropes, just in case he ever gives a Hall of Fame induction speech someday.
There's this new thing called situational awareness, Pex.
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2011, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
I did lose interest in the Cubs early last year.
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2011, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
I did lose interest in the Cubs early last year.
He's MVP eligible. That's right. I said it. TWEET THAT
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2011, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
I did lose interest in the Cubs early last year.
And in sideboob.
Quote from: Fork on April 17, 2011, 11:39:47 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2011, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
I did lose interest in the Cubs early last year.
And in sideboob.
When you're tired of sideboob, you're tired of life.
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 17, 2011, 11:39:47 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2011, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
I did lose interest in the Cubs early last year.
And in sideboob.
When you're tired of sideboob, you're tired of life.
Steve Stone was on The Score this morning talking about Castro and the improvements he's made with his pitch recognition. He then said that he's "not completely sold" on his play at short and that he would eventually move. I think he's improved in the field as well and that as hard as he seems to work at all facets of his game, he will one day become a very good or great shortstop. And when that happens, I'm going to find some way to rub Stone's schnauz in it. Whether it's a call to The Score or whatever. I will make the man pay.
*continues bitter asshurt existence*
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 18, 2011, 09:37:23 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 17, 2011, 11:39:47 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2011, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
I did lose interest in the Cubs early last year.
And in sideboob.
When you're tired of sideboob, you're tired of life.
Steve Stone was on The Score this morning talking about Castro and the improvements he's made with his pitch recognition. He then said that he's "not completely sold" on his play at short and that he would eventually move. I think he's improved in the field as well and that as hard as he seems to work at all facets of his game, he will one day become a very good or great shortstop. And when that happens, I'm going to find some way to rub Stone's schnauz in it. Whether it's a call to The Score or whatever. I will make the man pay.
*continues bitter asshurt existence*
I haven't seen him do anything at short that makes me think he can't play the position very well. He's PANKed some things mentally but his range and his arm are phenomenal and he makes about 4-5 plays per game that give me an erection because they're plays that Ryan Theriot couldn't make in a dream where he was Starlin Castro.
Quote from: SKO on April 18, 2011, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 18, 2011, 09:37:23 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 17, 2011, 11:39:47 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2011, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
I did lose interest in the Cubs early last year.
And in sideboob.
When you're tired of sideboob, you're tired of life.
Steve Stone was on The Score this morning talking about Castro and the improvements he's made with his pitch recognition. He then said that he's "not completely sold" on his play at short and that he would eventually move. I think he's improved in the field as well and that as hard as he seems to work at all facets of his game, he will one day become a very good or great shortstop. And when that happens, I'm going to find some way to rub Stone's schnauz in it. Whether it's a call to The Score or whatever. I will make the man pay.
*continues bitter asshurt existence*
I haven't seen him do anything at short that makes me think he can't play the position very well. He's PANKed some things mentally but his range and his arm are phenomenal and he makes about 4-5 plays per game that give me an erection because they're plays that Ryan Theriot couldn't make in a dream where he was Starlin Castro.
He got hit in the face with a throw from catcher and I think he ends up in some awkward positions (||) both receiving and making throws. And he tossed one into the dugout Friday night to complete the little league slam by the Rockie catcher. None of those things make me think he can't play a great SS. It's just a lot to iron out. He's 21 though. We've already realized that these are mistakes that AA shortstops are bound to make. And he just happens to be one of the best pure hitters in professional baseball so he has the mixed fortune of needing to get better at the Major League level. I don't know what the fuck Stone is looking at. Besides Hawk's pantsless lower body, that is.
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 18, 2011, 09:59:13 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 18, 2011, 09:54:13 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 18, 2011, 09:37:23 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 17, 2011, 11:39:47 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2011, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
I did lose interest in the Cubs early last year.
And in sideboob.
When you're tired of sideboob, you're tired of life.
Steve Stone was on The Score this morning talking about Castro and the improvements he's made with his pitch recognition. He then said that he's "not completely sold" on his play at short and that he would eventually move. I think he's improved in the field as well and that as hard as he seems to work at all facets of his game, he will one day become a very good or great shortstop. And when that happens, I'm going to find some way to rub Stone's schnauz in it. Whether it's a call to The Score or whatever. I will make the man pay.
*continues bitter asshurt existence*
I haven't seen him do anything at short that makes me think he can't play the position very well. He's PANKed some things mentally but his range and his arm are phenomenal and he makes about 4-5 plays per game that give me an erection because they're plays that Ryan Theriot couldn't make in a dream where he was Starlin Castro.
He got hit in the face with a throw from catcher and I think he ends up in some awkward positions (||) both receiving and making throws. And he tossed one into the dugout Friday night to complete the little league slam by the Rockie catcher. None of those things make me think he can't play a great SS. It's just a lot to iron out. He's 21 though. We've already realized that these are mistakes that AA shortstops are bound to make. And he just happens to be one of the best pure hitters in professional baseball so he has the mixed fortune of needing to get better at the Major League level. I don't know what the fuck Stone is looking at. Besides Hawk's pantsless lower body, that is.
Anyone who spends more than 1 second listening to and caring about what Steve Stone has to say deserves whatever asshurt results from it.
I admit it. I haven't been this tumescent for a Cub since Prior in 2003.
(http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-baseball-stories/assets_c/2011/05/SI%20Cover%20Castro-thumb-400x528-357659.jpg)
Quote from: Internet Apex on April 18, 2011, 09:37:23 AM
Quote from: Bort on April 18, 2011, 09:30:20 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 17, 2011, 11:39:47 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:36:15 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on April 17, 2011, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: thehawk on April 17, 2011, 04:28:01 PM
Is Starlin Rookie of the Year eligible. If he is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow6lg2tAqsY#t=0m54s)
Nope. He would have had to have 130 or fewer ABs before this season. He had 333 too many. Doesn't change the fact that he's probably the greatest thing since the discovery of sideboob.
I did lose interest in the Cubs early last year.
And in sideboob.
When you're tired of sideboob, you're tired of life.
Steve Stone was on The Score this morning talking about Castro and the improvements he's made with his pitch recognition. He then said that he's "not completely sold" on his play at short and that he would eventually move. I think he's improved in the field as well and that as hard as he seems to work at all facets of his game, he will one day become a very good or great shortstop. And when that happens, I'm going to find some way to rub Stone's schnauz in it. Whether it's a call to The Score or whatever. I will make the man pay.
*continues bitter asshurt existence*
I wonder if Steve Stone thinks the cubs could trade Castro for Cesar Izturis
Rawdog at 4 letter site isn't buying into Starlin. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=56897)
"I can't believe it but people are actually buying into starlin castro already. This guy has one good week and people are already buying into the castro stock, REALLY???? One idiot writes an article about this guy and then more idiots start jumping on the castro bandwagon. Then the bigger idiots already are talking about how Theriot needs to move to 2nd base to make room for castro. I mean castro has talent but I think it's a little too soon to start hyping this guy up, especially since he still needs to develop in the Cubs minor leagues. How many of our "untouchable" prospects have panned out, did we already forget about Rich Hill, Felix Pie, Ronnie Cedeno, Matt Murton, Corey Patterson, and Eric Patterson. All these guys showed potential and were considered untradeable at certain points of their careers, and then they became disappoints which in turn disappointed us. I am tired of buying into this hype the Cubs create, I wish they would spend as much time developing up the farm system as they do hyping them up. I'm not going to buy into this crap until I actually see this guy perform well in the MLB, whenever that happens. I give the Cubs credit though, they know how to get people to buy into stock, unfortunately they have a knack for not actually developing it. And for all the Theriot haters, leave the guy alone, he didn't have a great year but at the same time he wasn't horrible either. At least he hustles on every play and can actually stay healthy throughout the year, which is more than you can say about his teammates. If anybody should lose his job right now it should be Hendry, for depleting our farm system and for signing clowns like milton bradley who destroyed every last bit of team chemistry on this team. I believe he meant well but that doesn't take away the fact that he has done a terrible job lately. If you actually think castro should be starting on the Cubs on opening day then you don't know baseball and should stick to watching curling, IDIOT!
Yours truely,
$$$$$RAWDOG 4 EVA$$$$$"
Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 11:18:15 AM
Rawdog at 4 letter site isn't buying into Starlin. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=56897)
"I can't believe it but people are actually buying into starlin castro already. This guy has one good week and people are already buying into the castro stock, REALLY???? One idiot writes an article about this guy and then more idiots start jumping on the castro bandwagon. Then the bigger idiots already are talking about how Theriot needs to move to 2nd base to make room for castro. I mean castro has talent but I think it's a little too soon to start hyping this guy up, especially since he still needs to develop in the Cubs minor leagues. How many of our "untouchable" prospects have panned out, did we already forget about Rich Hill, Felix Pie, Ronnie Cedeno, Matt Murton, Corey Patterson, and Eric Patterson. All these guys showed potential and were considered untradeable at certain points of their careers, and then they became disappoints which in turn disappointed us. I am tired of buying into this hype the Cubs create, I wish they would spend as much time developing up the farm system as they do hyping them up. I'm not going to buy into this crap until I actually see this guy perform well in the MLB, whenever that happens. I give the Cubs credit though, they know how to get people to buy into stock, unfortunately they have a knack for not actually developing it. And for all the Theriot haters, leave the guy alone, he didn't have a great year but at the same time he wasn't horrible either. At least he hustles on every play and can actually stay healthy throughout the year, which is more than you can say about his teammates. If anybody should lose his job right now it should be Hendry, for depleting our farm system and for signing clowns like milton bradley who destroyed every last bit of team chemistry on this team. I believe he meant well but that doesn't take away the fact that he has done a terrible job lately. If you actually think castro should be starting on the Cubs on opening day then you don't know baseball and should stick to watching curling, IDIOT!
Yours truely,
$$$$$RAWDOG 4 EVA$$$$$"
Clearly, Raw Dog "gets it".
Quote from: PANK! on August 08, 2011, 11:24:33 AM
Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 11:18:15 AM
Rawdog at 4 letter site isn't buying into Starlin. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=56897)
"I can't believe it but people are actually buying into starlin castro already. This guy has one good week and people are already buying into the castro stock, REALLY???? One idiot writes an article about this guy and then more idiots start jumping on the castro bandwagon. Then the bigger idiots already are talking about how Theriot needs to move to 2nd base to make room for castro. I mean castro has talent but I think it's a little too soon to start hyping this guy up, especially since he still needs to develop in the Cubs minor leagues. How many of our "untouchable" prospects have panned out, did we already forget about Rich Hill, Felix Pie, Ronnie Cedeno, Matt Murton, Corey Patterson, and Eric Patterson. All these guys showed potential and were considered untradeable at certain points of their careers, and then they became disappoints which in turn disappointed us. I am tired of buying into this hype the Cubs create, I wish they would spend as much time developing up the farm system as they do hyping them up. I'm not going to buy into this crap until I actually see this guy perform well in the MLB, whenever that happens. I give the Cubs credit though, they know how to get people to buy into stock, unfortunately they have a knack for not actually developing it. And for all the Theriot haters, leave the guy alone, he didn't have a great year but at the same time he wasn't horrible either. At least he hustles on every play and can actually stay healthy throughout the year, which is more than you can say about his teammates. If anybody should lose his job right now it should be Hendry, for depleting our farm system and for signing clowns like milton bradley who destroyed every last bit of team chemistry on this team. I believe he meant well but that doesn't take away the fact that he has done a terrible job lately. If you actually think castro should be starting on the Cubs on opening day then you don't know baseball and should stick to watching curling, IDIOT!
Yours truely,
$$$$$RAWDOG 4 EVA$$$$$"
Clearly, Raw Dog "gets it".
Holy Shit. I just realized that this post from Rawdog was from 2008. but nonetheless, he was spot on.
Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 11:26:43 AM
Quote from: PANK! on August 08, 2011, 11:24:33 AM
Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 11:18:15 AM
Rawdog at 4 letter site isn't buying into Starlin. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=56897)
"I can't believe it but people are actually buying into starlin castro already. This guy has one good week and people are already buying into the castro stock, REALLY???? One idiot writes an article about this guy and then more idiots start jumping on the castro bandwagon. Then the bigger idiots already are talking about how Theriot needs to move to 2nd base to make room for castro. I mean castro has talent but I think it's a little too soon to start hyping this guy up, especially since he still needs to develop in the Cubs minor leagues. How many of our "untouchable" prospects have panned out, did we already forget about Rich Hill, Felix Pie, Ronnie Cedeno, Matt Murton, Corey Patterson, and Eric Patterson. All these guys showed potential and were considered untradeable at certain points of their careers, and then they became disappoints which in turn disappointed us. I am tired of buying into this hype the Cubs create, I wish they would spend as much time developing up the farm system as they do hyping them up. I'm not going to buy into this crap until I actually see this guy perform well in the MLB, whenever that happens. I give the Cubs credit though, they know how to get people to buy into stock, unfortunately they have a knack for not actually developing it. And for all the Theriot haters, leave the guy alone, he didn't have a great year but at the same time he wasn't horrible either. At least he hustles on every play and can actually stay healthy throughout the year, which is more than you can say about his teammates. If anybody should lose his job right now it should be Hendry, for depleting our farm system and for signing clowns like milton bradley who destroyed every last bit of team chemistry on this team. I believe he meant well but that doesn't take away the fact that he has done a terrible job lately. If you actually think castro should be starting on the Cubs on opening day then you don't know baseball and should stick to watching curling, IDIOT!
Yours truely,
$$$$$RAWDOG 4 EVA$$$$$"
Clearly, Raw Dog "gets it".
Holy Shit. I just realized that this post from Rawdog was from 2008. but nonetheless, he was spot on.
Let me know when you realize it's from 2010.
Quote from: SKO on August 08, 2011, 11:28:07 AM
Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 11:26:43 AM
Quote from: PANK! on August 08, 2011, 11:24:33 AM
Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 11:18:15 AM
Rawdog at 4 letter site isn't buying into Starlin. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=56897)
"I can't believe it but people are actually buying into starlin castro already. This guy has one good week and people are already buying into the castro stock, REALLY???? One idiot writes an article about this guy and then more idiots start jumping on the castro bandwagon. Then the bigger idiots already are talking about how Theriot needs to move to 2nd base to make room for castro. I mean castro has talent but I think it's a little too soon to start hyping this guy up, especially since he still needs to develop in the Cubs minor leagues. How many of our "untouchable" prospects have panned out, did we already forget about Rich Hill, Felix Pie, Ronnie Cedeno, Matt Murton, Corey Patterson, and Eric Patterson. All these guys showed potential and were considered untradeable at certain points of their careers, and then they became disappoints which in turn disappointed us. I am tired of buying into this hype the Cubs create, I wish they would spend as much time developing up the farm system as they do hyping them up. I'm not going to buy into this crap until I actually see this guy perform well in the MLB, whenever that happens. I give the Cubs credit though, they know how to get people to buy into stock, unfortunately they have a knack for not actually developing it. And for all the Theriot haters, leave the guy alone, he didn't have a great year but at the same time he wasn't horrible either. At least he hustles on every play and can actually stay healthy throughout the year, which is more than you can say about his teammates. If anybody should lose his job right now it should be Hendry, for depleting our farm system and for signing clowns like milton bradley who destroyed every last bit of team chemistry on this team. I believe he meant well but that doesn't take away the fact that he has done a terrible job lately. If you actually think castro should be starting on the Cubs on opening day then you don't know baseball and should stick to watching curling, IDIOT!
Yours truely,
$$$$$RAWDOG 4 EVA$$$$$"
Clearly, Raw Dog "gets it".
Holy Shit. I just realized that this post from Rawdog was from 2008. but nonetheless, he was spot on.
Let me know when you realize it's from 2010.
Jesus Christ. Screw this, I'm packing up for the day and going home.
Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 11:26:43 AM
Quote from: PANK! on August 08, 2011, 11:24:33 AM
Quote from: BH on August 08, 2011, 11:18:15 AM
Rawdog at 4 letter site isn't buying into Starlin. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=56897)
"I can't believe it but people are actually buying into starlin castro already. This guy has one good week and people are already buying into the castro stock, REALLY???? One idiot writes an article about this guy and then more idiots start jumping on the castro bandwagon. Then the bigger idiots already are talking about how Theriot needs to move to 2nd base to make room for castro. I mean castro has talent but I think it's a little too soon to start hyping this guy up, especially since he still needs to develop in the Cubs minor leagues. How many of our "untouchable" prospects have panned out, did we already forget about Rich Hill, Felix Pie, Ronnie Cedeno, Matt Murton, Corey Patterson, and Eric Patterson. All these guys showed potential and were considered untradeable at certain points of their careers, and then they became disappoints which in turn disappointed us. I am tired of buying into this hype the Cubs create, I wish they would spend as much time developing up the farm system as they do hyping them up. I'm not going to buy into this crap until I actually see this guy perform well in the MLB, whenever that happens. I give the Cubs credit though, they know how to get people to buy into stock, unfortunately they have a knack for not actually developing it. And for all the Theriot haters, leave the guy alone, he didn't have a great year but at the same time he wasn't horrible either. At least he hustles on every play and can actually stay healthy throughout the year, which is more than you can say about his teammates. If anybody should lose his job right now it should be Hendry, for depleting our farm system and for signing clowns like milton bradley who destroyed every last bit of team chemistry on this team. I believe he meant well but that doesn't take away the fact that he has done a terrible job lately. If you actually think castro should be starting on the Cubs on opening day then you don't know baseball and should stick to watching curling, IDIOT!
Yours truely,
$$$$$RAWDOG 4 EVA$$$$$"
Clearly, Raw Dog "gets it".
Holy Shit. I just realized that this post from Rawdog was from 2008. but nonetheless, he was spot on.
You didn't notice Raw Dog's anger at the "idiots talking about how Theriot needs to move to second base to make room for Castro" in the fourth sentence?
DPD. I'd also like to publicly thank Starlin for being the only reason to watch this team somewhat regularly.
Damn, for a minute there I thought Hendry had traded Castro to St. Louis for Nick Punto and the remains of Corey Patterson's career.
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 08, 2011, 01:01:13 PM
Damn, for a minute there I thought Hendry had traded Castro to St. Louis for Nick Punto and the remains of Corey Patterson's career.
Not a chance. Saint Lewis already has an all-star shortstop.
Quote from: CBStew on August 08, 2011, 02:57:19 PM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on August 08, 2011, 01:01:13 PM
Damn, for a minute there I thought Hendry had traded Castro to St. Louis for Nick Punto and the remains of Corey Patterson's career.
Not a chance. Saint Lewis already has an all-star shortstop.
(http://turtledip.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/rafael-furcal.jpg)
Bump. On the score this morning they reported starlin is being investigated into a sechsual assault the night before going back to the dominican. Went out drinking at a club called crescendo with friends, took back some ladies. One blacked out... she reported it to police 12 hours later...
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 07:40:33 AM
Bump. On the score this morning they reported starlin is being investigated into a sechsual assault the night before going back to the dominican. Went out drinking at a club called crescendo with friends, took back some ladies. One blacked out... she reported it to police 12 hours later...
So trade him to the Steelers.
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 07:40:33 AM
Bump. On the score this morning they reported starlin is being investigated into a sechsual assault the night before going back to the dominican. Went out drinking at a club called crescendo with friends, took back some ladies. One blacked out... she reported it to police 12 hours later...
Also just read that he went home to the Dominican that morning and hasn't returned. I'm not saying he didn't assault the chick, but I'm also saying that she went to his apartment and all of a sudden "blacked out"? C'mon man.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 07:40:33 AM
Bump. On the score this morning they reported starlin is being investigated into a sechsual assault the night before going back to the dominican. Went out drinking at a club called crescendo with friends, took back some ladies. One blacked out... she reported it to police 12 hours later...
Also just read that he went home to the Dominican that morning and hasn't returned. I'm not saying he didn't assault the chick, but I'm also saying that she went to his apartment and all of a sudden "blacked out"? C'mon man.
I wonder if Starlin's parents pay the rent on his apartment too.
Son of a bitch.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
Also just read that he went home to the Dominican that morning and hasn't returned. I'm not saying he didn't assault the chick, but I'm also saying that she went to his apartment and all of a sudden "blacked out"? C'mon man.
"C'mon man"?
Because no one's ever gone somewhere and only
then "blacked out" before, right? Or managed to go anywhere or do anything
while "blacked out"?
Also... link:
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/06/sources-cubs-starlin-castro-accused-of-sexual-assault/
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:27:21 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
Also just read that he went home to the Dominican that morning and hasn't returned. I'm not saying he didn't assault the chick, but I'm also saying that she went to his apartment and all of a sudden "blacked out"? C'mon man.
"C'mon man"?
Because no one's ever gone somewhere and only then "blacked out" before, right? Or managed to go anywhere or do anything while "blacked out"?
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women. It just seems fishy. But hey, I don't know anything about Starlin's personal life to really take up for the guy. I just wish this wasn't a thing right now.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:27:21 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
Also just read that he went home to the Dominican that morning and hasn't returned. I'm not saying he didn't assault the chick, but I'm also saying that she went to his apartment and all of a sudden "blacked out"? C'mon man.
"C'mon man"?
Because no one's ever gone somewhere and only then "blacked out" before, right? Or managed to go anywhere or do anything while "blacked out"?
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women. It just seems fishy. But hey, I don't know anything about Starlin's personal life to really take up for the guy. I just wish this wasn't a thing right now.
Just stop.
Quote from: R-V on January 06, 2012, 08:32:59 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:27:21 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
Also just read that he went home to the Dominican that morning and hasn't returned. I'm not saying he didn't assault the chick, but I'm also saying that she went to his apartment and all of a sudden "blacked out"? C'mon man.
"C'mon man"?
Because no one's ever gone somewhere and only then "blacked out" before, right? Or managed to go anywhere or do anything while "blacked out"?
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women. It just seems fishy. But hey, I don't know anything about Starlin's personal life to really take up for the guy. I just wish this wasn't a thing right now.
Just stop.
RV, he's just saying, that starlin is sechsy as hell.. who wouldn't want to spend a night of pleasure with him?
Then she let her friends talk her into going after the money. Totally her fault. Just saying.
Quote from: R-V on January 06, 2012, 08:32:59 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:27:21 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
Also just read that he went home to the Dominican that morning and hasn't returned. I'm not saying he didn't assault the chick, but I'm also saying that she went to his apartment and all of a sudden "blacked out"? C'mon man.
"C'mon man"?
Because no one's ever gone somewhere and only then "blacked out" before, right? Or managed to go anywhere or do anything while "blacked out"?
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women. It just seems fishy. But hey, I don't know anything about Starlin's personal life to really take up for the guy. I just wish this wasn't a thing right now.
Just stop.
Hey, man... If the first words you think of when hearing about a woman getting sexually assaulted by someone you've heard of before
aren't "how convenient", that's
you're problem.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2012, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Women of the vulnerably drunk variety.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:38:43 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 06, 2012, 08:32:59 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:27:21 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:05:01 AM
Also just read that he went home to the Dominican that morning and hasn't returned. I'm not saying he didn't assault the chick, but I'm also saying that she went to his apartment and all of a sudden "blacked out"? C'mon man.
"C'mon man"?
Because no one's ever gone somewhere and only then "blacked out" before, right? Or managed to go anywhere or do anything while "blacked out"?
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women. It just seems fishy. But hey, I don't know anything about Starlin's personal life to really take up for the guy. I just wish this wasn't a thing right now.
Just stop.
Hey, man... If the first words you think of when hearing about a woman getting sexually assaulted by someone you've heard of before aren't "how convenient", that's you're problem.
It's too bad the report doesn't give an indication of what she was wearing on the night in question, because then we'd know whether she was asking for it or
really asking for it.
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2012, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Intrepid reader: Luis PoloniaTOO OLD!
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2012, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Women of the vulnerably drunk variety.
But Starlin's a Cub and I like him!
Seriously IAN, I'm not trying to pile on - but given what we know about pro athletes in general, getting out your Jump to Conclusions mat and leaping to the "She's in it for the money" or "She's lying" circles is probably not the best route.
Quote from: R-V on January 06, 2012, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2012, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Women of the vulnerably drunk variety.
But Starlin's a Cub and I like him!
Seriously IAN, I'm not trying to pile on - but given what we know about pro athletes in general, getting out your Jump to Conclusions mat and leaping to the "She's in it for the money" or "She's lying" circles is probably not the best route.
Fortunately, I'm assuming most cubs fans will take Ian's defense... case in point (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=683776)..
"Per reporter on the score. Starlin was at a bar with buddies and he, his 4 buddies, and 2 girls when to his apartment on state at 3:30am. The girl admittedly had blackouted and regained consciousness to Starlin doing his thang and 5:30. Starlin had a planned trip to the Dominican the next day and she went to the hospital 12 hours later.
Apparently this girl expected tea and crumpets when she goes to an athletes apartment at 3:30am after a night of drinking. Plus, I think everybody knows the blackout excuse. IMO I smell BS. Either way sucks for Starlin. "
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 06, 2012, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2012, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Women of the vulnerably drunk variety.
But Starlin's a Cub and I like him!
Seriously IAN, I'm not trying to pile on - but given what we know about pro athletes in general, getting out your Jump to Conclusions mat and leaping to the "She's in it for the money" or "She's lying" circles is probably not the best route.
Fortunately, I'm assuming most cubs fans will take Ian's defense... case in point (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=683776)..
"Per reporter on the score. Starlin was at a bar with buddies and he, his 4 buddies, and 2 girls when to his apartment on state at 3:30am. The girl admittedly had blackouted and regained consciousness to Starlin doing his thang and 5:30. Starlin had a planned trip to the Dominican the next day and she went to the hospital 12 hours later.
Apparently this girl expected tea and crumpets when she goes to an athletes apartment at 3:30am after a night of drinking. Plus, I think everybody knows the blackout excuse. IMO I smell BS. Either way sucks for Starlin. "
All I know is, when you want to know what most Cubs fans are thinking, the source is obvious. (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2012/1/6/2686912/starlin-castro-cubs-accused-sexual-assault)
EDIT: Another strong source for Cubs fan thoughts. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60491)
Quote from: morpheus on January 06, 2012, 09:02:32 AM
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 06, 2012, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2012, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Women of the vulnerably drunk variety.
But Starlin's a Cub and I like him!
Seriously IAN, I'm not trying to pile on - but given what we know about pro athletes in general, getting out your Jump to Conclusions mat and leaping to the "She's in it for the money" or "She's lying" circles is probably not the best route.
Fortunately, I'm assuming most cubs fans will take Ian's defense... case in point (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=683776)..
"Per reporter on the score. Starlin was at a bar with buddies and he, his 4 buddies, and 2 girls when to his apartment on state at 3:30am. The girl admittedly had blackouted and regained consciousness to Starlin doing his thang and 5:30. Starlin had a planned trip to the Dominican the next day and she went to the hospital 12 hours later.
Apparently this girl expected tea and crumpets when she goes to an athletes apartment at 3:30am after a night of drinking. Plus, I think everybody knows the blackout excuse. IMO I smell BS. Either way sucks for Starlin. "
All I know is, when you want to know what most Cubs fans are thinking, the source is obvious. (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2012/1/6/2686912/starlin-castro-cubs-accused-sexual-assault)
EDIT: Another strong source for Cubs fan thoughts. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60491)
The BCB comments are actually not as stupid as you'd think.
How long until this gets blamed on Soriano's influence?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 06, 2012, 09:13:24 AM
How long until this gets blamed on Soriano's influence?
I don't know, what time does Chuck get up in the morning?
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: morpheus on January 06, 2012, 09:02:32 AM
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 06, 2012, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2012, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Women of the vulnerably drunk variety.
But Starlin's a Cub and I like him!
Seriously IAN, I'm not trying to pile on - but given what we know about pro athletes in general, getting out your Jump to Conclusions mat and leaping to the "She's in it for the money" or "She's lying" circles is probably not the best route.
Fortunately, I'm assuming most cubs fans will take Ian's defense... case in point (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=683776)..
"Per reporter on the score. Starlin was at a bar with buddies and he, his 4 buddies, and 2 girls when to his apartment on state at 3:30am. The girl admittedly had blackouted and regained consciousness to Starlin doing his thang and 5:30. Starlin had a planned trip to the Dominican the next day and she went to the hospital 12 hours later.
Apparently this girl expected tea and crumpets when she goes to an athletes apartment at 3:30am after a night of drinking. Plus, I think everybody knows the blackout excuse. IMO I smell BS. Either way sucks for Starlin. "
All I know is, when you want to know what most Cubs fans are thinking, the source is obvious. (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2012/1/6/2686912/starlin-castro-cubs-accused-sexual-assault)
EDIT: Another strong source for Cubs fan thoughts. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60491)
The BCB comments are actually not as stupid as you'd think.
The NSBB ones are more entertaining. "WestSideRooter" needs to win an award of some sort.
Quote from: morpheus on January 06, 2012, 09:16:26 AM
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: morpheus on January 06, 2012, 09:02:32 AM
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 06, 2012, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2012, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Women of the vulnerably drunk variety.
But Starlin's a Cub and I like him!
Seriously IAN, I'm not trying to pile on - but given what we know about pro athletes in general, getting out your Jump to Conclusions mat and leaping to the "She's in it for the money" or "She's lying" circles is probably not the best route.
Fortunately, I'm assuming most cubs fans will take Ian's defense... case in point (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=683776)..
"Per reporter on the score. Starlin was at a bar with buddies and he, his 4 buddies, and 2 girls when to his apartment on state at 3:30am. The girl admittedly had blackouted and regained consciousness to Starlin doing his thang and 5:30. Starlin had a planned trip to the Dominican the next day and she went to the hospital 12 hours later.
Apparently this girl expected tea and crumpets when she goes to an athletes apartment at 3:30am after a night of drinking. Plus, I think everybody knows the blackout excuse. IMO I smell BS. Either way sucks for Starlin. "
All I know is, when you want to know what most Cubs fans are thinking, the source is obvious. (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2012/1/6/2686912/starlin-castro-cubs-accused-sexual-assault)
EDIT: Another strong source for Cubs fan thoughts. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60491)
The BCB comments are actually not as stupid as you'd think.
The NSBB ones are more entertaining. "WestSideRooter" needs to win an award of some sort.
Rocket also brings up and interesting point I had not thought about.
"girls want easy money to go shopping and get manicures and stuff. that's all the evidence i need"
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 09:37:21 AM
Quote from: morpheus on January 06, 2012, 09:16:26 AM
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 09:08:23 AM
Quote from: morpheus on January 06, 2012, 09:02:32 AM
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 08:53:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on January 06, 2012, 08:49:35 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on January 06, 2012, 08:45:27 AM
Quote from: Eli on January 06, 2012, 08:40:39 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on January 06, 2012, 08:31:28 AM
I'm just saying, women either have a habit of conveniently blacking out when involved with professional athletes or professional athletes have black out problems with women.
Or, conversely, professional athletes have a habit of sexually assaulting women.
Women of the vulnerably drunk variety.
But Starlin's a Cub and I like him!
Seriously IAN, I'm not trying to pile on - but given what we know about pro athletes in general, getting out your Jump to Conclusions mat and leaping to the "She's in it for the money" or "She's lying" circles is probably not the best route.
Fortunately, I'm assuming most cubs fans will take Ian's defense... case in point (http://forums.prosportsdaily.com/showthread.php?t=683776)..
"Per reporter on the score. Starlin was at a bar with buddies and he, his 4 buddies, and 2 girls when to his apartment on state at 3:30am. The girl admittedly had blackouted and regained consciousness to Starlin doing his thang and 5:30. Starlin had a planned trip to the Dominican the next day and she went to the hospital 12 hours later.
Apparently this girl expected tea and crumpets when she goes to an athletes apartment at 3:30am after a night of drinking. Plus, I think everybody knows the blackout excuse. IMO I smell BS. Either way sucks for Starlin. "
All I know is, when you want to know what most Cubs fans are thinking, the source is obvious. (http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2012/1/6/2686912/starlin-castro-cubs-accused-sexual-assault)
EDIT: Another strong source for Cubs fan thoughts. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=60491)
The BCB comments are actually not as stupid as you'd think.
The NSBB ones are more entertaining. "WestSideRooter" needs to win an award of some sort.
Rocket also brings up and interesting point I had not thought about.
"girls want easy money to go shopping and get manicures and stuff. that's all the evidence i need"
Women always be gettin' raped to get a manicure.
Quote from: BH on January 06, 2012, 09:37:21 AM
Rocket also brings up and interesting point I had not thought about.
"girls want easy money to go shopping and get manicures and stuff. that's all the evidence i need"
I have the world's worst sarcasm detector, but I think that was sarcasm.
Quote from: CT III on January 06, 2012, 09:13:54 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on January 06, 2012, 09:13:24 AM
How long until this gets blamed on Soriano's influence?
I don't know, what time does Chuck get up in the morning?
Not early enough. (http://www.northsidebaseball.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2743832&sid=019971f3f4963f6f28da3da1e6c2078a#p2743832)
The charges against Castro are eerily similar to those against Seattle Sounders (it's a soccer team, dopes) star Fredy Montero.
here's the story:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008980395_webfredy03m.html
His defense:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sounders/2008990345_sounders06.html
And the result:
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/No-charges-to-be-filed-against-Sounders-Montero-1303293.php
They are both stars and very young and from another country. They're both probably quite uneducated. Fredy Montero's charges were dropped and yet every single time he's in Chicago or anywhere else on the road he is taunted with cries of rapist.
This is Starlin's future now - whether he's cleared or not.
Sorry buddy - you just simply cannot take strangers into your house at 3 AM if you're famous and rich. Nothing good ever happens.
Quote from: Slaky on January 06, 2012, 10:05:38 AM
The charges against Castro are eerily similar to those against Seattle Sounders (it's a soccer team, dopes) star Fredy Montero.
here's the story:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008980395_webfredy03m.html
His defense:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sounders/2008990345_sounders06.html
And the result:
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/No-charges-to-be-filed-against-Sounders-Montero-1303293.php
They are both stars and very young and from another country. They're both probably quite uneducated. Fredy Montero's charges were dropped and yet every single time he's in Chicago or anywhere else on the road he is taunted with cries of rapist.
This is Starlin's future now - whether he's cleared or not.
Sorry buddy - you just simply cannot take strangers into your house at 3 AM if you're famous and rich. Nothing good ever happens.
...unless they wake up. Dur.
Quote from: Slaky on January 06, 2012, 10:05:38 AM
The charges against Castro are eerily similar to those against Seattle Sounders (it's a soccer team, dopes) star Fredy Montero.
here's the story:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2008980395_webfredy03m.html
His defense:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sounders/2008990345_sounders06.html
And the result:
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/article/No-charges-to-be-filed-against-Sounders-Montero-1303293.php
They are both stars and very young and from another country. They're both probably quite uneducated. Fredy Montero's charges were dropped and yet every single time he's in Chicago or anywhere else on the road he is taunted with cries of rapist.
This is Starlin's future now - whether he's cleared or not.
Sorry buddy - you just simply cannot take strangers into your house at 3 AM if you're famous and rich. Nothing good ever happens.
Without actually reading those links, but reading the name of the team, I'm assuming a WNBA player raped some chick. Is there such thing as that? I don' tknow, that's why I'm asking.
Also, let's be honest, this chick knows exactly what she's doing. Anybody can roofie themselves or say they blacked out. Or in his case, browned out.
On the bright side, Starlin Castro didn't get so mad after getting lit up by Braves hitters that he told the clubhouse man that he's retiring. So, he's a good teammate. I'm sure he's good for a few rubber chicken gags with Dempster and all the teammates trust him (if not with their daughters).
If there's any truth to this, fuck him.
Lets go ahead and bump this for a spectacular 6-6 fly out to shallow left center.
I saw Castro make a sensational catch in left field when the Cubs were at ATT Park a couple of weeks ago. He has great range and concentration on the ball, yet he doesn't seem to concentrate on how many outs there are in an inning.
Quote from: thehawk on June 19, 2012, 08:35:24 PM
Lets go ahead and bump this for a spectacular 6-6 fly out to shallow left center.
Highlight video (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=22420595&c_id=chc)
I'm surprised Borb didn't bitch about Starlin catching it with his back to the pitcher.
Quote from: Andy on June 20, 2012, 03:27:40 PM
I'm surprised Borb didn't bitch about Starlin catching it with his back to the pitcher.
Shut up Paul, you're a douche.
I accidentally hit the first page of this 2.5 year old thread.
Second post. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg205973#msg205973)
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
Heh.
Quote from: PANK! on June 20, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
I accidentally hit the first page of this 2.5 year old thread.
Second post. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg205973#msg205973)
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
Heh.
Quote from: Jon on February 18, 2010, 09:16:48 AM
Yeti, I swear to God if he doesn't suck and you ever cheer for him I will treat you like a common Fro Dog for the rest of your life.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 20, 2012, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 20, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
I accidentally hit the first page of this 2.5 year old thread.
Second post. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg205973#msg205973)
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
Heh.
Quote from: Jon on February 18, 2010, 09:16:48 AM
Yeti, I swear to God if he doesn't suck and you ever cheer for him I will treat you like a common Fro Dog for the rest of your life.
Too bad Jon is busy splooging about the Rockies..
Anyway, I'm pretty sure I was being sarcastic, but given that it was 2 years ago, I can't say that with 100% certainty
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 11, 2010, 02:32:50 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 11, 2010, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 11, 2010, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
That gift certificate aint all it's cracked up to be, I bet. The other day they showed a close up, and I could swear I saw a whisker on his face. Could have been an eyelash that fell off. I don't know. I need more information. (googles Phil Rogers on Twitter)
BONAR
Quit putting words in my mouth, LeBron lover.
Ah, the origins of a feud
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 21, 2012, 07:16:14 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 11, 2010, 02:32:50 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 11, 2010, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 11, 2010, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
That gift certificate aint all it's cracked up to be, I bet. The other day they showed a close up, and I could swear I saw a whisker on his face. Could have been an eyelash that fell off. I don't know. I need more information. (googles Phil Rogers on Twitter)
BONAR
Quit putting words in my mouth, LeBron lover.
Ah, the origins of a feud
So that's what did it. He still loves LeBron so does this count towards his true fandom?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 21, 2012, 09:00:24 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on June 21, 2012, 07:16:14 AM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 11, 2010, 02:32:50 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 11, 2010, 02:31:46 PM
Quote from: Night Man on August 11, 2010, 02:28:50 PM
Quote from: Eli on August 11, 2010, 02:24:50 PM
Bump now that Castro has hit 300 at bats. Among MLB shortstops who have at least 300 plate appearances, he ranks:
- 3rd in batting average
- 4th in weighted on-base average (behind Tulowirzki, Furcal, H. Ramirez)
- 4th in OPS
- Dead, absolute last in age
I love him very, very much.
That gift certificate aint all it's cracked up to be, I bet. The other day they showed a close up, and I could swear I saw a whisker on his face. Could have been an eyelash that fell off. I don't know. I need more information. (googles Phil Rogers on Twitter)
BONAR
Quit putting words in my mouth, LeBron lover.
Ah, the origins of a feud
So that's what did it. He still loves LeBron so does this count towards his true fandom?
I laughed. But I don't think this is the genesis.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 20, 2012, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 20, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
I accidentally hit the first page of this 2.5 year old thread.
Second post. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg205973#msg205973)
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
Heh.
Quote from: Jon on February 18, 2010, 09:16:48 AM
Yeti, I swear to God if he doesn't suck and you ever cheer for him I will treat you like a common Fro Dog for the rest of your life.
You just wait until I get back, Frorod.
Quote from: Bort on June 21, 2012, 03:43:37 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 20, 2012, 11:03:44 PM
Quote from: PANK! on June 20, 2012, 09:42:41 PM
I accidentally hit the first page of this 2.5 year old thread.
Second post. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg205973#msg205973)
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on February 18, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
He gonna suck
Heh.
Quote from: Jon on February 18, 2010, 09:16:48 AM
Yeti, I swear to God if he doesn't suck and you ever cheer for him I will treat you like a common Fro Dog for the rest of your life.
,
You just wait until I get back, Frorod.
I anxiously await your return to not shoutboxing and commenting once every 2-3 days on Desipio
Bumped for his vastly improved defense (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/castrst01-field.shtml), particularly his decrease in throwing errors.
Quote from: Fork on July 31, 2012, 08:21:27 AM
Bumped for his vastly improved defense (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/castrst01-field.shtml), particularly his decrease in throwing errors.
That's been nice.
The terrible plate discipline has been disappointing.
Quote from: Eli on July 31, 2012, 08:36:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 31, 2012, 08:21:27 AM
Bumped for his vastly improved defense (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/castrst01-field.shtml), particularly his decrease in throwing errors.
That's been nice.
The terrible plate discipline has been disappointing.
I think he's been trying to be a one-man team. Hopefully now that Rizzo's behind him in the lineup, we'll see his OPB get back into the .340 range.
Quote from: Fork on July 31, 2012, 09:06:26 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 31, 2012, 08:36:32 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 31, 2012, 08:21:27 AM
Bumped for his vastly improved defense (http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/c/castrst01-field.shtml), particularly his decrease in throwing errors.
That's been nice.
The terrible plate discipline has been disappointing.
I think he's been trying to be a one-man team. Hopefully now that Rizzo's behind him in the lineup, we'll see his OPB get back into the .340 range.
[chork]I'm down with OPB[/chork]
This has been all over the place, but I wanted to formally acknowledge in this space that Chuck is wrong again (https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/236596967239733248).
QuoteSources: #Cubs' deal with Castro will be for 6 or 7 yrs plus club option for another yr. Will buy out all 4 years arb and 2 or 3 FA years.
Quote from: Eli on August 18, 2012, 08:05:34 AM
This has been all over the place, but I wanted to formally acknowledge in this space that Chuck is wrong again (https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/236596967239733248).
QuoteSources: #Cubs' deal with Castro will be for 6 or 7 yrs plus club option for another yr. Will buy out all 4 years arb and 2 or 3 FA years.
Apparently Epstein and Hoyer haven't been paying attention (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=8079.msg253327#msg253327).
Quote from: Eli on August 18, 2012, 08:05:34 AM
This has been all over the place, but I wanted to formally acknowledge in this space that Chuck is wrong again (https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/236596967239733248).
QuoteSources: #Cubs' deal with Castro will be for 6 or 7 yrs plus club option for another yr. Will buy out all 4 years arb and 2 or 3 FA years.
Intrepid Reader: ChuckNow that it's officially a done deal (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120828&content_id=37476684&vkey=news_chc&c_id=chc) without a no-trade clause, he's more tradeable.
Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 08:16:46 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 18, 2012, 08:05:34 AM
This has been all over the place, but I wanted to formally acknowledge in this space that Chuck is wrong again (https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/236596967239733248).
QuoteSources: #Cubs' deal with Castro will be for 6 or 7 yrs plus club option for another yr. Will buy out all 4 years arb and 2 or 3 FA years.
Intrepid Reader: Chuck
Now that it's officially a done deal (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120828&content_id=37476684&vkey=news_chc&c_id=chc) without a no-trade clause, he's more tradeable.
Internet Chuck is actually right in this instance. I hope he bounces back and has an awesome year next year and every year with the Cubs until I'm dead.
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:04:56 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 08:16:46 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 18, 2012, 08:05:34 AM
This has been all over the place, but I wanted to formally acknowledge in this space that Chuck is wrong again (https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/236596967239733248).
QuoteSources: #Cubs' deal with Castro will be for 6 or 7 yrs plus club option for another yr. Will buy out all 4 years arb and 2 or 3 FA years.
Intrepid Reader: Chuck
Now that it's officially a done deal (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120828&content_id=37476684&vkey=news_chc&c_id=chc) without a no-trade clause, he's more tradeable.
Internet Chuck is actually right in this instance. I hope he bounces back and has an awesome year next year and every year with the Cubs until I'm dead.
Wait you can sign a player to a long term deal without a no trade clause? What a world we live in.
Also interesting that Creepy Bruce Levine was talking on his Sunday radio show that there was a snag in the Castro talks, and that the parties might not do a deal over it. So much for that.
Quote from: thehawk on August 29, 2012, 11:17:16 AM
Quote from: Internet Apex on August 29, 2012, 09:04:56 AM
Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 08:16:46 AM
Quote from: Eli on August 18, 2012, 08:05:34 AM
This has been all over the place, but I wanted to formally acknowledge in this space that Chuck is wrong again (https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/236596967239733248).
QuoteSources: #Cubs' deal with Castro will be for 6 or 7 yrs plus club option for another yr. Will buy out all 4 years arb and 2 or 3 FA years.
Intrepid Reader: Chuck
Now that it's officially a done deal (http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120828&content_id=37476684&vkey=news_chc&c_id=chc) without a no-trade clause, he's more tradeable.
Internet Chuck is actually right in this instance. I hope he bounces back and has an awesome year next year and every year with the Cubs until I'm dead.
Wait you can sign a player to a long term deal without a no trade clause? What a world we live in.
Also interesting that Creepy Bruce Levine was talking on his Sunday radio show that there was a snag in the Castro talks, and that the parties might not do a deal over it. So much for that.
Did he also say that the Pudge Rodriguez signing was imminent?
Intrepid Reader Yeti:
So stoked to have his .276 BA and his 97 OPS+ in the lineup for the next decade...
Quote from: SKO on August 29, 2012, 12:24:10 PM
Intrepid Reader Yeti:
So stoked to have his .276 BA and his 97 OPS+ in the lineup for the next decade...
7 year decade.
Quote from: BH on August 29, 2012, 12:44:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 29, 2012, 12:24:10 PM
Intrepid Reader Yeti:
So stoked to have his .276 BA and his 97 OPS+ in the lineup for the next decade...
7 year decade.
It's the RIGHT decade, though
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on August 29, 2012, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: BH on August 29, 2012, 12:44:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 29, 2012, 12:24:10 PM
Intrepid Reader Yeti:
So stoked to have his .276 BA and his 97 OPS+ in the lineup for the next decade...
7 year decade.
It's the RIGHT decade, though
Those numbers are kick-ass in base 7.
Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 01:10:09 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on August 29, 2012, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: BH on August 29, 2012, 12:44:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 29, 2012, 12:24:10 PM
Intrepid Reader Yeti:
So stoked to have his .276 BA and his 97 OPS+ in the lineup for the next decade...
7 year decade.
It's the RIGHT decade, though
Those numbers are kick-ass in base 7.
.276 and 97 can't be base 7 numbers, which would only have digits between 0 and 6.
Quote from: morpheus on August 29, 2012, 02:57:51 PM
Quote from: Fork on August 29, 2012, 01:10:09 PM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on August 29, 2012, 12:49:51 PM
Quote from: BH on August 29, 2012, 12:44:31 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 29, 2012, 12:24:10 PM
Intrepid Reader Yeti:
So stoked to have his .276 BA and his 97 OPS+ in the lineup for the next decade...
7 year decade.
It's the RIGHT decade, though
Those numbers are kick-ass in base 7.
.276 and 97 can't be base 7 numbers, which would only have digits between 0 and 6.
what are you, a fucking Mathlete?
(http://i39.tinypic.com/24vjxop.jpg)
Should I be worried about him? His OBP has been on a downward trend for a couple years now and power numbers are down from last year's improvement.
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him? His OBP has been on a downward trend for a couple years now and power numbers are down from last year's improvement.
He's currently 11th in OBP and 10th in OPS among all MLB shortstops. So I wouldn't worry just yet.
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
Since he's still only 23, I don't think your original expectations are outside the reaalm of feasibility yet. Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here.
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here.
I mean they can't keep depending on guys like Vulbeana, DuJeses, Sariono, Costalli, Bernay, and such.
Quote from: Slaky on May 22, 2013, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here.
I mean they can't keep depending on guys like Vulbeana, DuJeses, Sariono, Costalli, Bernay, and such.
Don't worry, Suvem will whip 'em into shape.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on May 22, 2013, 02:26:51 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 22, 2013, 02:23:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here.
I mean they can't keep depending on guys like Vulbeana, DuJeses, Sariono, Costalli, Bernay, and such.
Don't worry, Suvem will whip 'em into shape.
One hopes he'll let the kids play and not stick with the veteran dudes like Bournob and Solzenicyn like Datsyuk would have.
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here.
Many Szczvs and Vuuttrs knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slorer that day, I can tell you!
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 22, 2013, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here.
Many Szczvs and Vuuttrs knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slorer that day, I can tell you!
I reserve judgement until I hear from Dan Klob.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 22, 2013, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here.
Many Szczvs and Vuuttrs knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slorer that day, I can tell you!
Those two are gone when we trade for Peavy.
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.45), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 22, 2013, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here.
Many Szczvs and Vuuttrs knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slorer that day, I can tell you!
Yes! Have some!
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.45), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
Great job not linking to the post in which I didn't say he was the next Garry Templeton.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.45), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
His earlier lens was to compare him against current shitty players. Being a Cubs fan is awesome.
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 03:41:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
Great job not linking to the post in which I didn't say he was the next Garry Templeton.
No idea what you're talking about.
This old Huey post made me laugh, again.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
That list is rife with phallicism.
Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell?
Bill James is a pervert.
Quote from: BH on May 22, 2013, 03:46:10 PM
This old Huey post made me laugh, again.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
That list is rife with phallicism.
Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell?
Bill James is a pervert.
This ensuing discussion of "Dave Bancroft" actually not being even close to a phallic name made me laugh, rather loudly.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:48:50 PM
Quote from: BH on May 22, 2013, 03:46:10 PM
This old Huey post made me laugh, again.
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:58:54 PM
Quote from: MAD on February 24, 2010, 12:56:59 PM
Quote from: BH on February 24, 2010, 12:42:52 PM
Quote from: R-V on February 24, 2010, 12:39:33 PM
Hey old guys: was Garry Templeton (http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/comping-castro/) any good?
QuoteIt's clear that the Cubs prospect is Reyes' inferior; Baseball America would rank Reyes its third overall prospect after the 2002 season, while Castro came in at 16 when the magazine released their list yesterday. Reyes displayed more patience and more power, Castro a better knack for contact. What interests me is the comparison between Templeton and Castro – both were impatient contact hitters with questionable power profiles.
QuoteTempleton never developed home run power, he never developed patience, and when his speed started to go (and the BABIP with it), Templeton was no longer a useful player. Using the WAR historical database, we see that Templeton was 25.2 wins above replacement player in his 16-year career. I think Castro can be better than this (he's already a little more patient than Templeton, and walks are preached more than ever nowadays), though his four-year peak of 14 WAR seems appropriate.
Garry's comparable players.
1. Dick Groat (911)
2. Royce Clayton (909)
3. Dave Bancroft (879) *
4. Roger Peckinpaugh (875)
5. Dick Bartell (873)
6. Tony Taylor (870)
7. Jack Glasscock (868)
8. Bill Russell (863)
9. Orlando Cabrera (860)
10. Joe Tinker (860) *
* - Signifies Hall of Famer
His nickname was "Jumpsteady". I'm sure Huey can come up with a good nickname off this for Castro.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/t/templga01.shtml
DPD.
Heh heh.
That list is rife with phallicism.
Dick Groat? Dave Bancroft? Roger Peckinpaugh? Dick Bartell?
Bill James is a pervert.
This ensuing discussion of "Dave Bancroft" actually not being even close to a phallic name made me laugh, rather loudly.
And when you think about it, Templeton is pretty phallic. Temples are on the sides of a person's head, which is a slang term for oral sex, which typically involves hard weiners.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on May 22, 2013, 02:34:05 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:41:09 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 22, 2013, 01:30:52 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 01:00:17 PM
Especially once there's enough other guys around him to the point where he knows the offense doesn't have to fall to him or Rozzi every day.
Yeah, that's not a real thing.
When's Rozzi going to start hitting?
Hopefully after Slorer, Beza, Amlaro, Vobelgach and other reinforcements get here.
Many Szczvs and Vuuttrs knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slorer that day, I can tell you!
Validated.
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
Because his OPS is .684 while Barney's is .695?
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
Repeating yourself doesn't make your argument more true.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on May 23, 2013, 02:43:39 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
Because his OPS is .684 while Barney's is .695?
so? it was over .720 last week. He's on a cold streak. Historically, he heats up when the weather does. Based on monthly splits over his career, he should start heating up soon.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 03:41:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
Great job not linking to the post in which I didn't say he was the next Garry Templeton.
No idea what you're talking about.
Your link took me to an Apex post. Also, I didn't write the article comparing Templeton to Castro, I just thought it might generate some interesting sportz talk.
Quote from: R-V on May 23, 2013, 09:26:36 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:44:47 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 03:41:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
Great job not linking to the post in which I didn't say he was the next Garry Templeton.
No idea what you're talking about.
Your link took me to an Apex post. Also, I didn't write the article comparing Templeton to Castro, I just thought it might generate some interesting sportz talk.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zSdDWMU8HnA/S6o2bh2Ki1I/AAAAAAAAAQQ/h5YS0e18BuI/s1600/Garry+Templeton+82+Padres.jpg)
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 23, 2013, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.
He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.
Quote from: Fork on May 23, 2013, 10:52:29 AM
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Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
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Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.
He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.
Why are we still talking about Castro?
Quote from: BH on May 23, 2013, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 23, 2013, 10:52:29 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 23, 2013, 10:36:44 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.
He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.
Why are we still talking about Castro?
Because this is the Castro thread.
Quote from: PenFoe on May 23, 2013, 10:54:55 AM
Quote from: BH on May 23, 2013, 10:54:02 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 23, 2013, 10:52:29 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 23, 2013, 10:36:44 AM
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Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 03:20:14 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 22, 2013, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 12:48:53 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 22, 2013, 11:41:52 AM
Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.
He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.
Why are we still talking about Castro?
Because this is the Castro thread.
Ok, let's continue then. So is he good? or great? cubs good only? or cubs great?
Quote from: Fork on May 23, 2013, 10:52:29 AM
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Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
I think it's because we are hoping he's going to be a great shortstop, not a great Cubs shortstop, which are two very different things, as you've pointed out.
He's stil only 23. His career path is far from being determined. That includes whether or not he'll even be a shortstop once Baez is ready...Baez might wind up being even better than Castro.
We'll have to see how it plays out.
One thing's for sure, he's the best SS of our (sans Stew) generation
Good effort, everyone.
Quote from: Fork on May 22, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
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Quote from: R-V on May 22, 2013, 11:33:26 AM
Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
True. I had the pleasure of watching the great Roy Smalley
Quote from: Yeti on May 23, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
One thing's for sure, he's the best SS of our (sans Stew) generation
"Smalley's best season statistically was 1950. He posted career highs in home runs (21), RBI (85), runs (58), hits (128) and doubles (21), including hitting for the cycle on June 28. He struck out a league-leading 114 times. He made 51 errors (the last time a player made at least 50), but he also led NL shortstops in total chances per game, as he had in 1949, and in double plays."
In 1953 they replaced him with some guy named Banks.
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Quote from: Yeti on May 23, 2013, 11:15:33 AM
One thing's for sure, he's the best SS of our (sans Stew) generation
"Smalley's best season statistically was 1950. He posted career highs in home runs (21), RBI (85), runs (58), hits (128) and doubles (21), including hitting for the cycle on June 28. He struck out a league-leading 114 times. He made 51 errors (the last time a player made at least 50), but he also led NL shortstops in total chances per game, as he had in 1949, and in double plays."
In 1953 they replaced him with some guy named Banks.
Terwilliger-to Smalley-to Addison Street?
Castro has two hits today. Everybody shut up.
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 23, 2013, 03:31:45 PM
Castro has two hits today. Everybody shut up.
Quote from: Buster Olney, 6 minutes ago
Two bad things just happened to Starlin Castro: He got thrown out by Travis Snider going for a double down three runs; he twisted an ankle.
Don't try and JO into the DOOOOOOOOMtex, bro.
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Should I be worried about him?
Depends on what your initial expectations were.
I think that's the problem. My expectations for Starlin were too high - something like an extended prime where he was a top 3 shortstop every year. At this point a top 10 SS is probably more realistic and probably not worth having a sad over.
You were the one who told us he was the next Garry Templeton (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7226.msg206736#msg206736), so I don't know why you expected Barry Larkin.
As it is, he's the best all-around SS the Cubs have had since Banks.
I don't think comparing him against decades of shitty players is really the right lens here.
the lens is that he's the best Cubs SS of any of our (except Stew's) lifetime. Why worry about Castro?
HEY BUDDY! (http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/05/29/bernstein-starlin-castro-is-getting-worse/)
I can't believe Castro and Soriano just ran into each other and dropped the ball. Wow. Since Dale seems eager to whip his dick out and show Starlin who's boss I bet he demands the front office demote him after this game. One of the most unlikely E6's you'll ever see, my frents.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 02, 2013, 10:40:12 PM
I can't believe Castro and Soriano just ran into each other and dropped the ball. Wow. Since Dale seems eager to whip his dick out and show Starlin who's boss I bet he demands the front office demote him after this game. One of the most unlikely E6's you'll ever see, my frents.
I watched the part of this game from that stupid collision through the part where it was 7-5 Cubs and they hadn't blown it yet.
For most of that time I was convinced that Soriano and Castro wanted to fight each other. Castro let that error show on his face for the rest of the inning. Soriano looked to be chirping him from the outfield.
So what's my appropriate level of panic over the possibility that Starlin just won't stop sucking?
Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
So what's my appropriate level of panic over the possibility that Starlin just won't stop sucking?
I'm choosing to ignore the problem. I think I can do it thanks to the Hawks and because the Bears will be back in a few weeks.
Quote from: Tony on July 03, 2013, 10:57:43 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
So what's my appropriate level of panic over the possibility that Starlin just won't stop sucking?
I'm choosing to ignore the problem. I think I can do it thanks to the Hawks and because the Bears will be back in a few weeks.
At which point I'll surely have nothing that I will panic over at all.
Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
So what's my appropriate level of panic over the possibility that Starlin just won't stop sucking?
Depends what panic scale we're using. I think it's 100% mental with him, which could be good or bad.
So, medium panic?
Quote from: Eli on July 03, 2013, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
So what's my appropriate level of panic over the possibility that Starlin just won't stop sucking?
Depends what panic scale we're using. I think it's 100% mental with him, which could be good or bad.
So, medium panic?
Well shit. That's like the second to last thing I wanted to hear.
Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 11:13:40 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 03, 2013, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
So what's my appropriate level of panic over the possibility that Starlin just won't stop sucking?
Depends what panic scale we're using. I think it's 100% mental with him, which could be good or bad.
So, medium panic?
Well shit. That's like the second to last thing I wanted to hear.
I think it was Fangraphs who had a piece about he's basically laying off good pitches early in the count, falling behind and then swinging at bad pitches when he has two strikes. Probably as a result of the front office/coaches wanting him to be more patient. At this point, it's probably best to accept that he's never going to be a high OBP guy and let him go back to his instincts because there are worse things than just settling for the player Castro was last year. But who knows if that's something he can get back.
Does that help? Or make things worse?
Quote from: Eli on July 03, 2013, 11:17:50 AM
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Quote from: Eli on July 03, 2013, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
So what's my appropriate level of panic over the possibility that Starlin just won't stop sucking?
Depends what panic scale we're using. I think it's 100% mental with him, which could be good or bad.
So, medium panic?
Well shit. That's like the second to last thing I wanted to hear.
I think it was Fangraphs who had a piece about he's basically laying off good pitches early in the count, falling behind and then swinging at bad pitches when he has two strikes. Probably as a result of the front office/coaches wanting him to be more patient. At this point, it's probably best to accept that he's never going to be a high OBP guy and let him go back to his instincts because there are worse things than just settling for the player Castro was last year. But who knows if that's something he can get back.
Does that help? Or make things worse?
Yes.
Quote from: Eli on July 03, 2013, 11:17:50 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 11:13:40 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 03, 2013, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
So what's my appropriate level of panic over the possibility that Starlin just won't stop sucking?
Depends what panic scale we're using. I think it's 100% mental with him, which could be good or bad.
So, medium panic?
Well shit. That's like the second to last thing I wanted to hear.
I think it was Fangraphs who had a piece about he's basically laying off good pitches early in the count, falling behind and then swinging at bad pitches when he has two strikes. Probably as a result of the front office/coaches wanting him to be more patient. At this point, it's probably best to accept that he's never going to be a high OBP guy and let him go back to his instincts because there are worse things than just settling for the player Castro was last year. But who knows if that's something he can get back.
Does that help? Or make things worse?
Yeah, what Eli said. Nobody who does what Castro has done until this year (500 hits by 22 or some crazy figure) has missed the Hall of Fame, let alone just had a great career. Nobody who does that is just going to disappear. There is a long list of athletes in all sports who regress after early, brilliant, success (Check out Ruth's numbers in '23-'25 after he threw and batted to 6 pennants, but before 1927). Or you can just look across town at Patrick Kane, who statistically struggled last year while he worked on other parts of his game and still was maturing off the ice.
Whatever the outcome, "medium panic" is a keeper.
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Quote from: Eli on July 03, 2013, 11:17:50 AM
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Quote from: SKO on July 03, 2013, 10:54:42 AM
So what's my appropriate level of panic over the possibility that Starlin just won't stop sucking?
Depends what panic scale we're using. I think it's 100% mental with him, which could be good or bad.
So, medium panic?
Well shit. That's like the second to last thing I wanted to hear.
I think it was Fangraphs who had a piece about he's basically laying off good pitches early in the count, falling behind and then swinging at bad pitches when he has two strikes. Probably as a result of the front office/coaches wanting him to be more patient. At this point, it's probably best to accept that he's never going to be a high OBP guy and let him go back to his instincts because there are worse things than just settling for the player Castro was last year. But who knows if that's something he can get back.
Does that help? Or make things worse?
Yeah, what Eli said. Nobody who does what Castro has done until this year (500 hits by 22 or some crazy figure) has missed the Hall of Fame, let alone just had a great career. Nobody who does that is just going to disappear. There is a long list of athletes in all sports who regress after early, brilliant, success (Check out Ruth's numbers in b'23-'1925 after he threw and batted to 6 pennants, but before 1927). Or you can just look across town at Patrick Kane, who statistically struggled last year while he worked on other parts of his game and still was maturing off the ice.
Misremember'd.
And jesus Babe Ruth was ridiculous.
Here's Dale's explanation. Sori's fault?
"The [play in the fourth], 'Sori' lost in the twilight and called it real late, and it obviously cost us two runs," Sveum said. "It's unfortunate it ended up being two runs because of that."
Quote from: CT III on July 03, 2013, 11:34:47 AM
Whatever the outcome, "medium panic" is a keeper.
Not if it can be traded for more money to sign ferners.
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
Maybe he just told Joboo to fuck off and decided to go it alone.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
As opposed to 3 in 113 PAs in June. So "starting to work" seems to apply here.
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
As opposed to 3 in 113 PAs in June. So "starting to work" seems to apply here.
Yup.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
I don't even care about Castro walking anymore. I think he got overly hung up on being patient and it messed with his approach. Given what a disaster this year has been, I think we have to be happy if he simply gets back to what he was in 2011-12, even if that means he never walks more than 40 times a year. Anything else is just a bonus.
Quote from: Eli on July 23, 2013, 09:36:44 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
I don't even care about Castro walking anymore. I think he got overly hung up on being patient and it messed with his approach. Given what a disaster this year has been, I think we have to be happy if he simply gets back to what he was in 2011-12, even if that means he never walks more than 40 times a year. Anything else is just a bonus.
Ayup. I'd rather not let the perfect be the enemy of the good on him at this point.
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2013, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 23, 2013, 09:36:44 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
I don't even care about Castro walking anymore. I think he got overly hung up on being patient and it messed with his approach. Given what a disaster this year has been, I think we have to be happy if he simply gets back to what he was in 2011-12, even if that means he never walks more than 40 times a year. Anything else is just a bonus.
Ayup. I'd rather not let the perfect be the enemy of the good on him at this point.
I'd love to see a team so good that it can bat a Castro in the 6th or 7th spot.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 23, 2013, 09:54:02 AM
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Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
I don't even care about Castro walking anymore. I think he got overly hung up on being patient and it messed with his approach. Given what a disaster this year has been, I think we have to be happy if he simply gets back to what he was in 2011-12, even if that means he never walks more than 40 times a year. Anything else is just a bonus.
Ayup. I'd rather not let the perfect be the enemy of the good on him at this point.
I'd love to see a team so good that it can bat a Castro in the 6th or 7th spot.
Pretty sure you'd just incessantly bitch and moan about whatever bum was batting 7th or 8th, but other than that sign me up.
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2013, 09:48:01 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 23, 2013, 09:36:44 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 22, 2013, 10:50:28 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
I don't even care about Castro walking anymore. I think he got overly hung up on being patient and it messed with his approach. Given what a disaster this year has been, I think we have to be happy if he simply gets back to what he was in 2011-12, even if that means he never walks more than 40 times a year. Anything else is just a bonus.
Ayup. I'd rather not let the perfect be the enemy of the good on him at this point.
Valbuena walks almost as much in a month as Castro does in a half season.. I sure as hell don't want to see Castro turn into Valbuena.
Quote from: ChuckD on July 23, 2013, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 23, 2013, 09:54:02 AM
I'd love to see a team so good that it can bat a Castro in the 6th or 7th spot.
Pretty sure you'd just incessantly bitch and moan about whatever bum was batting 7th or 8th, but other than that sign me up.
Depends who it is. If it's a Michael Barrett or Korey Patterson, yes. Damian Miller or Larry Bow, notsomuch.
Nah. Fuck Larry Bowa.
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Quote from: ChuckD on July 23, 2013, 09:56:59 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 23, 2013, 09:54:02 AM
I'd love to see a team so good that it can bat a Castro in the 6th or 7th spot.
Pretty sure you'd just incessantly bitch and moan about whatever bum was batting 7th or 8th, but other than that sign me up.
Depends who it is. If it's a Michael Barrett or Korey Patterson, yes. Damian Miller or Larry Bow, notsomuch.
Nah. Fuck Larry Bowa.
You know what, if the Cubs re-sign Bowa to play, I will agree with you, Chuck.
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his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
I don't even care about Castro walking anymore. I think he got overly hung up on being patient and it messed with his approach. Given what a disaster this year has been, I think we have to be happy if he simply gets back to what he was in 2011-12, even if that means he never walks more than 40 times a year. Anything else is just a bonus.
Ayup. I'd rather not let the perfect be the enemy of the good on him at this point.
I'd love to see a team so good that it can bat a Castro in the 6th or 7th spot.
Any Castro?
Quote from: Shooter on July 24, 2013, 07:40:36 PM
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Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
I don't even care about Castro walking anymore. I think he got overly hung up on being patient and it messed with his approach. Given what a disaster this year has been, I think we have to be happy if he simply gets back to what he was in 2011-12, even if that means he never walks more than 40 times a year. Anything else is just a bonus.
Ayup. I'd rather not let the perfect be the enemy of the good on him at this point.
I'd love to see a team so good that it can bat a Castro in the 6th or 7th spot.
Any Castro?
I would draw the line at Fidel. But maybe his brother...
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Quote from: Fork on July 22, 2013, 10:46:53 PM
his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
I don't even care about Castro walking anymore. I think he got overly hung up on being patient and it messed with his approach. Given what a disaster this year has been, I think we have to be happy if he simply gets back to what he was in 2011-12, even if that means he never walks more than 40 times a year. Anything else is just a bonus.
Ayup. I'd rather not let the perfect be the enemy of the good on him at this point.
I'd love to see a team so good that it can bat a Castro in the 6th or 7th spot.
Any Castro?
I would draw the line at Fidel. But maybe his brother...
I'm figuring Ariel Castro swings a mean stick.
What?
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his OPS has gone up 40 points since July 1. It's still not great overall, but hopefully this means the break-down-to-build-up process is starting to work.
.851 OPS in that time, but only 3 walks in 71 PAs.
I don't even care about Castro walking anymore. I think he got overly hung up on being patient and it messed with his approach. Given what a disaster this year has been, I think we have to be happy if he simply gets back to what he was in 2011-12, even if that means he never walks more than 40 times a year. Anything else is just a bonus.
Ayup. I'd rather not let the perfect be the enemy of the good on him at this point.
I'd love to see a team so good that it can bat a Castro in the 6th or 7th spot.
Any Castro?
I would draw the line at Fidel. But maybe his brother...
I'm figuring Ariel Castro swings a mean stick.
What?
Work release. Get it done, Theo!
Chuck may have just found confirmed his new cause.
Quote from: flannj on August 17, 2013, 05:18:26 PM
Chuck may have just found confirmed his new cause.
G.R.O.S ?
Maybe it's time Sveum sits Castro down and makes him watch stuff like this (http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=29775705&sid=milb).
Quote from: Fork on August 18, 2013, 03:50:12 AM
Maybe it's time Sveum sits Castro down and makes him watch stuff like this (http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=29775705&sid=milb).
Not enough hustling around the bases.
Quote from: Fork on August 18, 2013, 03:50:12 AM
Maybe it's time Sveum sits Castro down and makes him watch stuff like this (http://www.milb.com/multimedia/vpp.jsp?content_id=29775705&sid=milb).
Adrian Beltre style!
/thread
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
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/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
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Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
That flub on a routine grounder yesterday was just classic him.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 07, 2014, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
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Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
That flub on a routine grounder yesterday was just classic him.
He makes errors. So does Baez. You can have Barney play there instead he won't make as many errors.
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
After 700 mostly-terrible plate appearances last year.
Quote from: Eli on April 07, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
After 700 mostly-terrible plate appearances last year.
and he's even worse this year!
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 07, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
After 700 mostly-terrible plate appearances last year.
and he's even worse this year!
Yeah I don't see where there's anything illogical in being off the Starlin bandwagon. His value was tied entirely to his batting average and it's been garbage for over a year after a not insignificant decline in 2012 from his 2011 high. There's a good chance he's just bad and grossly overpaid now.
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 07, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
After 700 mostly-terrible plate appearances last year.
and he's even worse this year!
Yeah I don't see where there's anything illogical in being off the Starlin bandwagon. His value was tied entirely to his batting average and it's been garbage for over a year after a not insignificant decline in 2012 from his 2011 high. There's a good chance he's just bad and grossly overpaid now.
Yeah, but this year was all about seeing if he could rebound from last season. And, particularly given his spring training injury, it's way too early to make a call on
that.
Which is to say, we'll have wait to see how this one plays out.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 07, 2014, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 07, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
After 700 mostly-terrible plate appearances last year.
and he's even worse this year!
Yeah I don't see where there's anything illogical in being off the Starlin bandwagon. His value was tied entirely to his batting average and it's been garbage for over a year after a not insignificant decline in 2012 from his 2011 high. There's a good chance he's just bad and grossly overpaid now.
Yeah, but this year was all about seeing if he could rebound from last season. And, particularly given his spring training injury, it's way too early to make a call on that.
Which is to say, we'll have wait to see how this one plays out.
Yeah, and when this strategy costs the Cubs their 77th win who'll look stupid then?
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 07, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
After 700 mostly-terrible plate appearances last year.
and he's even worse this year!
Yeah I don't see where there's anything illogical in being off the Starlin bandwagon. His value was tied entirely to his batting average and it's been garbage for over a year after a not insignificant decline in 2012 from his 2011 high. There's a good chance he's just bad and grossly overpaid now.
A lot of whore mouths in need of closing around here.
Quote from: CT III on April 07, 2014, 03:03:53 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 07, 2014, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 07, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
After 700 mostly-terrible plate appearances last year.
and he's even worse this year!
Yeah I don't see where there's anything illogical in being off the Starlin bandwagon. His value was tied entirely to his batting average and it's been garbage for over a year after a not insignificant decline in 2012 from his 2011 high. There's a good chance he's just bad and grossly overpaid now.
Yeah, but this year was all about seeing if he could rebound from last season. And, particularly given his spring training injury, it's way too early to make a call on that.
Which is to say, we'll have wait to see how this one plays out.
Yeah, and when this strategy costs the Cubs their 77th win who'll look stupid then?
Huey? (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=4647.msg274220#msg274220)
Can we all at least hold off on going full Fro Dog until, at least, May?
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2014, 03:15:39 PM
Can we all at least hold off on going full Fro Dog until, at least, May?
Is he getting booed at Wrigley yet?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 07, 2014, 04:38:57 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2014, 03:15:39 PM
Can we all at least hold off on going full Fro Dog until, at least, May?
Is he getting booed at Wrigley yet?
Fro Dog? I bet he could if he worked at it.
Castro's being very slow getting down on grounders, and his lack of speed even while trying to leg out getting out of a DP leads me to believe his hamstring still isn't 100%. The cold weather probably isn't making matters any better.
Anyway, having never really pulled a hamstring, that's my guess.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 07, 2014, 04:38:57 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 07, 2014, 03:15:39 PM
Can we all at least hold off on going full Fro Dog until, at least, May?
Is he getting booed at Wrigley yet?
He got booed after rolling into a DP last Friday.
But, you know. Cub fans.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 07, 2014, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 07, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
After 700 mostly-terrible plate appearances last year.
and he's even worse this year!
Yeah I don't see where there's anything illogical in being off the Starlin bandwagon. His value was tied entirely to his batting average and it's been garbage for over a year after a not insignificant decline in 2012 from his 2011 high. There's a good chance he's just bad and grossly overpaid now.
Yeah, but this year was all about seeing if he could rebound from last season. And, particularly given his spring training injury, it's way too early to make a call on that.
Which is to say, we'll have wait to see how this one plays out.
I'm somewhere between SKO and Tank when it comes to Castro. I'm discouraged (not by these 4 games, but by 2013), but it's just 4 games and he had no spring training.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 08, 2014, 10:05:52 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 07, 2014, 03:02:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 07, 2014, 02:50:36 PM
Quote from: Slaky on April 07, 2014, 02:18:24 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 07, 2014, 02:02:06 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on April 07, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: Slaky on April 04, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on April 04, 2014, 08:55:13 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 07:26:44 PM
/thread
Did he get traded or something?
Nah, just figured we'd never need it again.*
* I may be trying a reverse jinx here. Anything's worth a shot.
4 games
Right. He's started slowly after missing almost all of Spring Training. DOOOOOOM!!!
After 700 mostly-terrible plate appearances last year.
and he's even worse this year!
Yeah I don't see where there's anything illogical in being off the Starlin bandwagon. His value was tied entirely to his batting average and it's been garbage for over a year after a not insignificant decline in 2012 from his 2011 high. There's a good chance he's just bad and grossly overpaid now.
Yeah, but this year was all about seeing if he could rebound from last season. And, particularly given his spring training injury, it's way too early to make a call on that.
Which is to say, we'll have wait to see how this one plays out.
I'm somewhere between SKO and Tank when it comes to Castro. I'm discouraged (not by these 4 games, but by 2013), but it's just 4 games and he had no spring training.
The one encouraging thing is that (so far) he's not letting hitter's pitches go by like he did last year.
I think the fact that I have zero hope for anyone connected with this team this year is paying dividends in stress free fandom.
Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
I think the fact that I have zero hope for anyone connected with this team this year is paying dividends in stress free fandom.
On the ML team I really only care about Olt, Rizzo, Castro and even Castillo all improving.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 08, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
I think the fact that I have zero hope for anyone connected with this team this year is paying dividends in stress free fandom.
On the ML team I really only care about Olt, Rizzo, Castro and even Castillo all improving.
I'd like them to improve, but I have neither hope nor despair about them. If they do great, cool. If not, whatever.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 08, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
I think the fact that I have zero hope for anyone connected with this team this year is paying dividends in stress free fandom.
On the ML team I really only care about Olt Strop, Rizzo, Castro and even Castillo EJax all improving.
Otherwise THI'd.
Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2014, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 08, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
I think the fact that I have zero hope for anyone connected with this team this year is paying dividends in stress free fandom.
On the ML team I really only care about Olt, Rizzo, Castro and even Castillo all improving.
I'd like them to improve, but I have neither hope nor despair about them. If they do great, cool. If not, whatever.
If Rizzo and Castro don't improve, I'll be upset. the rest, whatever.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 08, 2014, 07:04:45 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2014, 12:10:21 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 08, 2014, 12:05:36 PM
Quote from: Bort on April 08, 2014, 11:58:32 AM
I think the fact that I have zero hope for anyone connected with this team this year is paying dividends in stress free fandom.
On the ML team I really only care about Olt, Rizzo, Castro and even Castillo all improving.
I'd like them to improve, but I have neither hope nor despair about them. If they do great, cool. If not, whatever.
If Rizzo and Castro don't improve, I'll be upset. the rest, whatever.
Chuck is (sigh) right. I'm obviously aware it's only been a week, but after last season it'd be comforting if either of them had looked better. If either/both of them are mediocre or worse long-term, it's going to slow the rebuilding even further.
Again, I just want someone to comfort me at this point, damn it.
FYE
Quote from: Eli on April 08, 2014, 07:15:10 PM
Again, I just want someone to comfort me at this point, damn it.
Can someone hop on a flight to KC and spoon Eli tonight?
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 08, 2014, 08:58:54 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 08, 2014, 07:15:10 PM
Again, I just want someone to comfort me at this point, damn it.
Can someone hop on a flight to KC and spoon Eli tonight?
Starlin already did, twice.
Quote from: Eli on April 08, 2014, 09:30:43 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on April 08, 2014, 08:58:54 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 08, 2014, 07:15:10 PM
Again, I just want someone to comfort me at this point, damn it.
Can someone hop on a flight to KC and spoon Eli tonight?
Starlin already did, twice.
Waiting for this episode to show up on another police report.
Nice hitting last night...I only got to see highlights, but Starlin made solid contact and it was nice seeing Rizzo hang in against a LHP and single in a big run.
One game, whatever, but still a sliver of encouragement.
Can't spell "Chicken Little" without E-L-I.
Quote from: PANK! on April 10, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
Can't spell "Chicken Little" without E-L-I.
Check out the big brain on Brett!
MVP.
Quote from: PANK! on April 10, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
Can't spell "Chicken Little" without E-L-I.
Been working on that one for a while, haven't you?
Quote from: Eli on April 10, 2014, 08:32:07 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 10, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
Can't spell "Chicken Little" without E-L-I.
Been working on that one for a while, haven't you?
I'm vaguely disappointed that there are no typos.
Quote from: Eli on April 10, 2014, 08:32:07 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 10, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
Can't spell "Chicken Little" without E-L-I.
Been working on that one for a while, haven't you?
Nah. It just came to me last night.
Quote from: PANK! on April 10, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
Can't spell "Chicken Little" without E-L-I.
Did somebody say "chicken"?
(http://i.imgur.com/zOrK6uW.gif)
MVP.
Quote from: Fork on April 10, 2014, 09:09:15 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 10, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
Can't spell "Chicken Little" without E-L-I.
Did somebody say "chicken"?
(http://i.imgur.com/zOrK6uW.gif)
That did it. I am now a vegetarian. (I can predict what is coming)
Quote from: CBStew on April 12, 2014, 09:52:54 AM
Quote from: Fork on April 10, 2014, 09:09:15 AM
Quote from: PANK! on April 10, 2014, 07:27:45 AM
Can't spell "Chicken Little" without E-L-I.
Did somebody say "chicken"?
(http://i.imgur.com/zOrK6uW.gif)
That did it. I am now a vegetarian. (I can predict what is coming)
Stew, someone on Twitter thought you said airplaneterian
Another two homer game. Yay?
Can we talk a little bit about Starlin having an absolutely great year? OPS is over .800, his OPS+ is at 116. Theo talked about it a little bit but he's finally waiting pitches he can drive and it's turned him into a guy who seems capable of hitting 20+ homers now.
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2014, 01:37:38 PM
Can we talk a little bit about Starlin having an absolutely great year? OPS is over .800, his OPS+ is at 116. Theo talked about it a little bit but he's finally waiting pitches he can drive and it's turned him into a guy who seems capable of hitting 20+ homers now.
The guy who hates Castro now wants to talk about how great he is?
Nice try.
Quote from: PenFoe on June 17, 2014, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 17, 2014, 01:37:38 PM
Can we talk a little bit about Starlin having an absolutely great year? OPS is over .800, his OPS+ is at 116. Theo talked about it a little bit but he's finally waiting pitches he can drive and it's turned him into a guy who seems capable of hitting 20+ homers now.
The guy who hates Castro now wants to talk about how great he is?
Nice try.
He's probably still a terrible human being or something.
Jesus Christ we need to bump this thread more. Starting today
Quote from: SKO on April 18, 2015, 06:37:03 PM
Jesus Christ we need to bump this thread more. Starting today
He's the new FYC.
Get fully and deeply fucked, Chuck.
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 22, 2015, 06:37:34 AM
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Get fully and deeply fucked, Chuck.
Quote from: InternetApex on April 22, 2015, 09:06:20 AM
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Get fully and deeply fucked, Chuck.
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Get fully and deeply fucked, Chuck.
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Get fully and deeply fucked, Chuck.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 22, 2015, 10:46:35 AM
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Get fully and deeply fucked, Chuck.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 22, 2015, 10:46:35 AM
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Get fully and deeply fucked, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 11:26:48 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on April 22, 2015, 10:46:35 AM
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Get fully and deeply fucked, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
Bleacher Nation: FYC. (http://www.bleachernation.com/2015/04/22/starlin-castro-professional-hitter-and-professional-shortstop/)
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 22, 2015, 11:26:48 AM
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Get fully and deeply fucked, Chuck.
No, Chuck.
Big boner positive for Starlin's amazing dive to his right to snag a Brennan Boesch one hopper then throw from his pants to get the runner at first. It was a legit Web Gem or Top 10 Play or whatever good defensive plays are called nowadays.
Video: http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees (http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees)
Starlin has been playing very well this year.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 27, 2015, 09:36:58 AM
Big boner positive for Starlin's amazing dive to his right to snag a Brennan Boesch one hopper then throw from his pants to get the runner at first. It was a legit Web Gem or Top 10 Play or whatever good defensive plays are called nowadays.
Video: http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees (http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees)
Starlin has been playing very well this year.
I haven't been paying attention.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 27, 2015, 09:36:58 AM
Big boner positive for Starlin's amazing dive to his right to snag a Brennan Boesch one hopper then throw from his pants to get the runner at first. It was a legit Web Gem or Top 10 Play or whatever good defensive plays are called nowadays.
Video: http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees (http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees)
Starlin has been playing very well this year.
Helluva stretch by Rizzo too.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 27, 2015, 10:35:27 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 27, 2015, 09:36:58 AM
Big boner positive for Starlin's amazing dive to his right to snag a Brennan Boesch one hopper then throw from his pants to get the runner at first. It was a legit Web Gem or Top 10 Play or whatever good defensive plays are called nowadays.
Video: http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees (http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees)
Starlin has been playing very well this year.
Helluva stretch by Rizzo too.
Reminds you of a certain red-assed 16" softball first baseman, doesn't it?
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 27, 2015, 10:35:27 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 27, 2015, 09:36:58 AM
Big boner positive for Starlin's amazing dive to his right to snag a Brennan Boesch one hopper then throw from his pants to get the runner at first. It was a legit Web Gem or Top 10 Play or whatever good defensive plays are called nowadays.
Video: http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees (http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees)
Starlin has been playing very well this year.
Helluva stretch by Rizzo too.
Meh. Any decent 1B would have done the same thing.
Quote from: Tonker on April 27, 2015, 10:54:10 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on April 27, 2015, 10:35:27 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on April 27, 2015, 09:36:58 AM
Big boner positive for Starlin's amazing dive to his right to snag a Brennan Boesch one hopper then throw from his pants to get the runner at first. It was a legit Web Gem or Top 10 Play or whatever good defensive plays are called nowadays.
Video: http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees (http://m.cubs.mlb.com/news/article/120668626/starlin-adds-to-highlight-reel-with-throw-from-knees)
Starlin has been playing very well this year.
Helluva stretch by Rizzo too.
Meh. Any decent 1B would have done the same thing.
So then not any red-assed 16" softball first basemen I know of.
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
/thread
Trying this again since it worked out last year.
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:53:01 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
/thread
Trying this again since it worked out last year.
What he's doing to my fantasy team and to me personally right now is giving me all the bad feels.
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2015, 09:20:39 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:53:01 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
/thread
Trying this again since it worked out last year.
What he's doing to my fantasy team and to me personally right now is giving me all the bad feels.
It's a disheartening fucking situation.
Quote from: SKO on May 28, 2015, 09:25:54 AM
Quote from: InternetApex on May 28, 2015, 09:20:39 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 27, 2015, 09:53:01 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 04, 2014, 10:00:28 PM
/thread
Trying this again since it worked out last year.
What he's doing to my fantasy team and to me personally right now is giving me all the bad feels.
It's a disheartening fucking situation.
I think the front office had a really tough task before this year. It would've been a big gamble to trade him since they'd be counting on Baez and Russell to be good right away which, given Baez's debut, seemed sketchy. But after last year, Castro's value probably had nowhere to go but down -- we know what he is by this point and the chances of him doing something to significantly increase his trade value were slim.
Who knows if a Syndergaard-Castro type of deal was ever even available to them. If it was, it probably won't be again. That's why GM'ing is hard.
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I don't have it, but I heard them talking about it watching the game, several other guys on twitter commented on it, and then you can go and check the BFIBB twitter feed from right when they said it and laugh at the 500 Cardinals fans demanding that Castro be beaned for disrespecting the game.
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 09:31:28 AM
then you can go and check the BFIBB twitter feed from right when they said it and laugh at the 500 Cardinals fans demanding that Castro be beaned for disrespecting the game.
Why would I want to do any of that?
Quote from: Eli on June 02, 2015, 09:33:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 09:31:28 AM
then you can go and check the BFIBB twitter feed from right when they said it and laugh at the 500 Cardinals fans demanding that Castro be beaned for disrespecting the game.
Why would I want to do any of that?
INTREPID READER ELI:
"look at me, I'm so above your so called "internet" thing"
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
Wait--you're recording Cardinals games? You're as bad as them!
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
I thought you had MLB.TV. You can just replay it on there. I'll try to figure out what inning it was where they discussed it.
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 09:33:57 AM
Quote from: Eli on June 02, 2015, 09:33:04 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 09:31:28 AM
then you can go and check the BFIBB twitter feed from right when they said it and laugh at the 500 Cardinals fans demanding that Castro be beaned for disrespecting the game.
Why would I want to do any of that?
INTREPID READER ELI:
"look at me, I'm so above your so called "internet" thing"
*nods*
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
I thought you had MLB.TV. You can just replay it on there. I'll try to figure out what inning it was where they discussed it.
I suspected as much; I just couldn't pass on that opportunity.
Quote from: PANK! on June 02, 2015, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
I thought you had MLB.TV. You can just replay it on there. I'll try to figure out what inning it was where they discussed it.
I suspected as much; I just couldn't pass on that opportunity.
It's at 2:26:22, right before the top of the 8th when they come back from commercial break.
Quote
Dan McLaughlin: ... Fox Sports Midwest. We go to our Studio and a [unintelligible] sports break.
...
DM: 30 seconds on a home run trot. Wow.
Rick Horton: Heh.
DM: Well, that's how you get hurt or get someone on your team hurt.
RH: [Chuckles] Exactly. My...my...My blood is boiling just ... just talking about that.
RH: You know, Pat never says anything that bothers me and he just did. I think he's trying to get under my skin.
DM: I think so.
RH: I might throw at you before this game is over I'm so agitated.
DM: It wouldn't hurt.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 02, 2015, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
I thought you had MLB.TV. You can just replay it on there. I'll try to figure out what inning it was where they discussed it.
I suspected as much; I just couldn't pass on that opportunity.
It's at 2:26:22, right before the top of the 8th when they come back from commercial break.
Quote
Dan McLaughlin: ... Fox Sports Midwest. We go to our Studio and a [unintelligible] sports break.
...
DM: 30 seconds on a home run trot. Wow.
Rick Horton: Heh.
DM: Well, that's how you get hurt or get someone on your team hurt.
RH: [Chuckles] Exactly. My...my...My blood is boiling just ... just talking about that.
RH: You know, Pat never says anything that bothers me and he just did. I think he's trying to get under my skin.
DM: I think so.
RH: I might throw at you before this game is over I'm so agitated.
DM: It wouldn't hurt.
Someone quickly found four or five home run trots for Yadi alone that lasted 27 seconds+. Asshats.
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 10:27:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 02, 2015, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
I thought you had MLB.TV. You can just replay it on there. I'll try to figure out what inning it was where they discussed it.
I suspected as much; I just couldn't pass on that opportunity.
It's at 2:26:22, right before the top of the 8th when they come back from commercial break.
Quote
Dan McLaughlin: ... Fox Sports Midwest. We go to our Studio and a [unintelligible] sports break.
...
DM: 30 seconds on a home run trot. Wow.
Rick Horton: Heh.
DM: Well, that's how you get hurt or get someone on your team hurt.
RH: [Chuckles] Exactly. My...my...My blood is boiling just ... just talking about that.
RH: You know, Pat never says anything that bothers me and he just did. I think he's trying to get under my skin.
DM: I think so.
RH: I might throw at you before this game is over I'm so agitated.
DM: It wouldn't hurt.
Someone quickly found four or five home run trots for Yadi alone that lasted 27 seconds+. Asshats.
Yeah the TOOTBLAN Reporter guy. He was good last night.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
I thought you had MLB.TV. You can just replay it on there. I'll try to figure out what inning it was where they discussed it.
Just the audio version. MLB.TV is useless for me being in market for the Cubes
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 10:27:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 02, 2015, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
I thought you had MLB.TV. You can just replay it on there. I'll try to figure out what inning it was where they discussed it.
I suspected as much; I just couldn't pass on that opportunity.
It's at 2:26:22, right before the top of the 8th when they come back from commercial break.
Quote
Dan McLaughlin: ... Fox Sports Midwest. We go to our Studio and a [unintelligible] sports break.
...
DM: 30 seconds on a home run trot. Wow.
Rick Horton: Heh.
DM: Well, that's how you get hurt or get someone on your team hurt.
RH: [Chuckles] Exactly. My...my...My blood is boiling just ... just talking about that.
RH: You know, Pat never says anything that bothers me and he just did. I think he's trying to get under my skin.
DM: I think so.
RH: I might throw at you before this game is over I'm so agitated.
DM: It wouldn't hurt.
Someone quickly found four or five home run trots for Yadi alone that lasted 27 seconds+. Asshats.
They had "Waino" in the booth literally 1-2 innings (T5 to the middle of the 6th) asking him about his rehab, charitable causes, and Yadi.
Many slurping noises were heard, but in spite of that I caught:
- I think he's the best catcher in the history of the game.
- I think he's going to have a statue outside of this stadium one day -- I really do.
- I'll be able to tell my kids one day, and anyone who will listen, that I pitched to Yadier Molina, the greatest catcher that ever lived.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 10:39:39 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 10:27:03 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
Quote from: PANK! on June 02, 2015, 09:43:11 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:41:19 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 02, 2015, 09:35:39 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 02, 2015, 09:27:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 02, 2015, 08:44:29 AM
Bump for his massive home run and for a trot so long and deliberate it (actual quote) had the Cardinals (yes they were talking about him during a game that didn't even involve the Cubs because Cardinals fans) booth talking about how their "blood was literally boiling".
Really? Video?
I just set the replay of the game to record. I'm interested to see what they said.
I thought you had MLB.TV. You can just replay it on there. I'll try to figure out what inning it was where they discussed it.
I suspected as much; I just couldn't pass on that opportunity.
It's at 2:26:22, right before the top of the 8th when they come back from commercial break.
Quote
Dan McLaughlin: ... Fox Sports Midwest. We go to our Studio and a [unintelligible] sports break.
...
DM: 30 seconds on a home run trot. Wow.
Rick Horton: Heh.
DM: Well, that's how you get hurt or get someone on your team hurt.
RH: [Chuckles] Exactly. My...my...My blood is boiling just ... just talking about that.
RH: You know, Pat never says anything that bothers me and he just did. I think he's trying to get under my skin.
DM: I think so.
RH: I might throw at you before this game is over I'm so agitated.
DM: It wouldn't hurt.
Someone quickly found four or five home run trots for Yadi alone that lasted 27 seconds+. Asshats.
They had "Waino" in the booth literally 1-2 innings (T5 to the middle of the 6th) asking him about his rehab, charitable causes, and Yadi.
Many slurping noises were heard, but in spite of that I caught:
- I think he's the best catcher in the history of the game.
- I think he's going to have a statue outside of this stadium one day -- I really do.
- I'll be able to tell my kids one day, and anyone who will listen, that I pitched to Yadier Molina, the greatest catcher that ever lived.
Christ on a bike.
A Cardinal-fan friend of mine hates their broadcasts. He thinks they've gotten insufferable. If they play the Cubs, he tunes into the Cubs broadcast, if available (which usually is in Central IL).
I know when I'm looking for a moral authority on acceptable behavior I always turn to Dan McLaughlin.
(http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/dan_mclaughlin.jpg)
Quote from: R-V on June 02, 2015, 11:07:32 AM
I know when I'm looking for a moral authority on acceptable behavior I always turn to Dan McLaughlin.
(http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/dan_mclaughlin.jpg)
Oh, that poor man. What happened to him?
Quote from: Jon on February 18, 2010, 09:16:48 AM
Yeti, I swear to God if he doesn't suck and you ever cheer for him I will treat you like a common Fro Dog for the rest of your life.
Where are we with this?
And for everyone worried about what the Marlins thought about Castro's slow jog, a reminder that they gave the baseball world this quite recently:
(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3207783/fernandez-hr.gif)
Things'll be fine.
Quote from: Eli on June 02, 2015, 03:55:40 PM
And for everyone worried about what the Marlins thought about Castro's slow jog, a reminder that they gave the baseball world this quite recently:
(http://cdn0.sbnation.com/assets/3207783/fernandez-hr.gif)
Things'll be fine.
They're gonna tear Castro's UCL?
Quote from: Tonker on June 02, 2015, 11:13:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on June 02, 2015, 11:07:32 AM
I know when I'm looking for a moral authority on acceptable behavior I always turn to Dan McLaughlin.
(http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/dan_mclaughlin.jpg)
Oh, that poor man. What happened to him?
And that wasn't just one DUI. Yep, he got to keep his job after he did it again. In St. Louis, alcohol abuse is a résumé enhancement.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 02, 2015, 05:56:47 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 02, 2015, 11:13:17 AM
Quote from: R-V on June 02, 2015, 11:07:32 AM
I know when I'm looking for a moral authority on acceptable behavior I always turn to Dan McLaughlin.
(http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/dan_mclaughlin.jpg)
Oh, that poor man. What happened to him?
And that wasn't just one DUI. Yep, he got to keep his job after he did it again. In St. Louis, alcohol abuse is a résumé enhancement.
Well, right up until you plow into the back of a tow truck...
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2015, 01:28:52 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 18, 2010, 09:16:48 AM
Yeti, I swear to God if he doesn't suck and you ever cheer for him I will treat you like a common Fro Dog for the rest of your life.
Where are we with this?
Man, I can't even remember what I said last night.
Quote from: Bort on June 03, 2015, 05:43:57 PM
Quote from: InternetApex on June 02, 2015, 01:28:52 PM
Quote from: Jon on February 18, 2010, 09:16:48 AM
Yeti, I swear to God if he doesn't suck and you ever cheer for him I will treat you like a common Fro Dog for the rest of your life.
Where are we with this?
Man, I can't even remember what I said last night.
Welcome to "you know we talked about this last night".
Awesome lazy throw to fail to end an inning and hand the Marlins another run.
I can't wait for this guy to wear another team's jersey.
You people fucking suck. How did this go unbumped all weekend?
Bump for a massive 2 run game tying homer off Johnny Fucking Cueto on Friday.
Bump for a ninth inning walk off single on Saturday.
Bump for the awesome relay throw that nailed Brandon Philips at home to keep the Reds to one run in the inning on Sunday.
And Bump again for his second walkoff hit in the 11th on Sunday night, the first time a Cubs player had walkoff hits in back to back games since Santo in '66.
On a totally cheesy, stupid note he hit that walkoff as I sat in the darkness beside my dad's bed in his hospital room, thanking God that he was still there to celebrate it with me after his grabber earlier that afternoon, and it was a pretty special moment. I'm gonna remember that one for a while. Thanks, Starlin.
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 10:22:47 AM
You people fucking suck. How did this go unbumped all weekend?
Bump for a massive 2 run game tying homer off Johnny Fucking Cueto on Friday.
Bump for a ninth inning walk off single on Saturday.
Bump for the awesome relay throw that nailed Brandon Philips at home to keep the Reds to one run in the inning on Sunday.
And Bump again for his second walkoff hit in the 11th on Sunday night, the first time a Cubs player had walkoff hits in back to back games since Santo in '66.
On a totally cheesy, stupid note he hit that walkoff as I sat in the darkness beside my dad's bed in his hospital room, thanking God that he was still there to celebrate it with me after his grabber earlier that afternoon, and it was a pretty special moment. I'm gonna remember that one for a while. Thanks, Starlin.
*runs around apartment in underwear*
Quote from: InternetApex on June 16, 2015, 04:46:43 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 10:22:47 AM
You people fucking suck. How did this go unbumped all weekend?
Bump for a massive 2 run game tying homer off Johnny Fucking Cueto on Friday.
Bump for a ninth inning walk off single on Saturday.
Bump for the awesome relay throw that nailed Brandon Philips at home to keep the Reds to one run in the inning on Sunday.
And Bump again for his second walkoff hit in the 11th on Sunday night, the first time a Cubs player had walkoff hits in back to back games since Santo in '66.
On a totally cheesy, stupid note he hit that walkoff as I sat in the darkness beside my dad's bed in his hospital room, thanking God that he was still there to celebrate it with me after his grabber earlier that afternoon, and it was a pretty special moment. I'm gonna remember that one for a while. Thanks, Starlin.
*runs around apartment in underwear*
*tosses Ape his Golden State onesie*
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 10:22:47 AM
You people fucking suck. How did this go unbumped all weekend?
Bump for a massive 2 run game tying homer off Johnny Fucking Cueto on Friday.
Bump for a ninth inning walk off single on Saturday.
Bump for the awesome relay throw that nailed Brandon Philips at home to keep the Reds to one run in the inning on Sunday.
And Bump again for his second walkoff hit in the 11th on Sunday night, the first time a Cubs player had walkoff hits in back to back games since Santo in '66.
On a totally cheesy, stupid note he hit that walkoff as I sat in the darkness beside my dad's bed in his hospital room, thanking God that he was still there to celebrate it with me after his grabber earlier that afternoon, and it was a pretty special moment. I'm gonna remember that one for a while. Thanks, Starlin.
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
Sorry to hear about your old man, SKO: hope he's okay.
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 16, 2015, 10:22:47 AM
You people fucking suck. How did this go unbumped all weekend?
Bump for a massive 2 run game tying homer off Johnny Fucking Cueto on Friday.
Bump for a ninth inning walk off single on Saturday.
Bump for the awesome relay throw that nailed Brandon Philips at home to keep the Reds to one run in the inning on Sunday.
And Bump again for his second walkoff hit in the 11th on Sunday night, the first time a Cubs player had walkoff hits in back to back games since Santo in '66.
On a totally cheesy, stupid note he hit that walkoff as I sat in the darkness beside my dad's bed in his hospital room, thanking God that he was still there to celebrate it with me after his grabber earlier that afternoon, and it was a pretty special moment. I'm gonna remember that one for a while. Thanks, Starlin.
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
Sorry to hear about your old man, SKO: hope he's okay.
I've been as hard on Starlin as anyone and he's still pretty much having a shit season but that was big weekend for him and dammit I was happy for him. This thread deserved some bumpage.
Dad's doing much better, thank you. Hopefully this will be incentive enough to finally put the cigarettes away.
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
This is something about the Starlin argument that always puzzles me, but why do otherwise-statistically-inclined fans always cite hits and All-Star appearances when defending Castro?
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
This is something about the Starlin argument that always puzzles me, but why do otherwise-statistically-inclined fans always cite hits and All-Star appearances when defending Castro?
Because getting hits is better than not getting hits.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 17, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
This is something about the Starlin argument that always puzzles me, but why do otherwise-statistically-inclined fans always cite hits and All-Star appearances when defending Castro?
Because getting hits is better than not getting hits.
And All-Star appearances speak to the quality or lack thereof at the position league-wide and where Starlin fits into that mix. Really good question though, Eli.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 17, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
This is something about the Starlin argument that always puzzles me, but why do otherwise-statistically-inclined fans always cite hits and All-Star appearances when defending Castro?
Because getting hits is better than not getting hits.
This is a little too Juan Pierre-ish for my liking.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 17, 2015, 06:43:01 PM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 17, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
This is something about the Starlin argument that always puzzles me, but why do otherwise-statistically-inclined fans always cite hits and All-Star appearances when defending Castro?
Because getting hits is better than not getting hits.
And All-Star appearances speak to the quality or lack thereof at the position league-wide and where Starlin fits into that mix. Really good question though, Eli.
As this year's American League voting has proven.
Quote from: ChuckD on June 17, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
This is something about the Starlin argument that always puzzles me, but why do otherwise-statistically-inclined fans always cite hits and All-Star appearances when defending Castro?
Because getting hits is better than not getting hits.
Right. And if you have more hits than absolutely everybody else over a five-year period, I'd say that's a reasonable indicator that you're not a complete disaster, offensively speaking. Indeed, I challenge you to show me any player in history who meets that criterion and wasn't offensively productive.
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2015, 02:15:22 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 17, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
This is something about the Starlin argument that always puzzles me, but why do otherwise-statistically-inclined fans always cite hits and All-Star appearances when defending Castro?
Because getting hits is better than not getting hits.
Right. And if you have more hits than absolutely everybody else over a five-year period, I'd say that's a reasonable indicator that you're not a complete disaster, offensively speaking. Indeed, I challenge you to show me any player in history who meets that criterion and wasn't offensively productive.
I can think of one, but you're not going to like it.
Go on, then...
(With proof, natch)
Quote from: ChuckD on June 18, 2015, 06:54:57 AM
Quote from: Tonker on June 18, 2015, 02:15:22 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on June 17, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
This is something about the Starlin argument that always puzzles me, but why do otherwise-statistically-inclined fans always cite hits and All-Star appearances when defending Castro?
Because getting hits is better than not getting hits.
Right. And if you have more hits than absolutely everybody else over a five-year period, I'd say that's a reasonable indicator that you're not a complete disaster, offensively speaking. Indeed, I challenge you to show me any player in history who meets that criterion and wasn't offensively productive.
I can think of one, but you're not going to like it.
Juan Pierre, right?
On the Castro political scale, I'm pretty moderate, but generally on the positive side of things due to his contract. He is what is he at this point and that's fine.
I'm just saying, hits and All-Star appearances are the preferred metrics of Juan Pierre and Micah Hoffpauir's mothers.
Quote from: Eli on June 18, 2015, 07:40:16 AM
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Quote from: ChuckD on June 17, 2015, 06:03:19 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2015, 05:32:04 PM
Quote from: Tonker on June 17, 2015, 01:56:32 PM
Fucking THIS. There are still twenty-odd teams who'd be fucking delighted to have a 25-year-old shortstop with best part of a thousand major league hits - more than any other cunt in the bigs since he came up.
This is something about the Starlin argument that always puzzles me, but why do otherwise-statistically-inclined fans always cite hits and All-Star appearances when defending Castro?
Because getting hits is better than not getting hits.
Right. And if you have more hits than absolutely everybody else over a five-year period, I'd say that's a reasonable indicator that you're not a complete disaster, offensively speaking. Indeed, I challenge you to show me any player in history who meets that criterion and wasn't offensively productive.
I can think of one, but you're not going to like it.
Juan Pierre, right?
That was the second one that I thought of. From the looks of it, Bobby Richardson and Doc Cramer, too. But, no, I was thinking of Starlin Castro.[/stickpoke]
Eli, I think it's because it's all we got. Starlin was really the first young we've had in a while show some success so I think we rushed to defend him against the morons. And, when it comes down to it, the easiest defense is the fact that he's a 25 year old with 900+ hits and 3 All-Star appearances to his resume (only one was a year where he was the only Cub, BTW). Those are very good accomplishments. I mean, the hit part, if he keeps it up for his career, he's going to approach 3,000 somehow. That being said, there isn't much beyond that you can really cling to. He's had 2 seasons of WAR 3 or more, and that's good, but going into this year, he was averaging 1.92 WAR/season. That's not terrible, obviously, but it's not some world beater (and that's not factoring in this year's -.4, which without weighting this season differently because the 60 games part would pull that down to 1.53). He has been better than most of their alternatives.
That being said, I am completely on board with them moving him as an intregal piece for pitching. However, I just don't think his value is good enough to be the *main* piece and that sucks.
I think also that a lot of the people who hate Castro just for being who he is are also the kind of people to whom hits and All Star appearances are important things, so it's just easy to fight them at their own level.
That said, god I'm tired of this. This is the Starlin splooge thread. Let this be a sanctuary to celebrate what awesome things he does and we can argue over his value literally everywhere else on the internet where people never stop doing that.
Quote from: Yeti on June 18, 2015, 08:16:28 AM
Eli, I think it's because it's all we got. Starlin was really the first young we've had in a while show some success so I think we rushed to defend him against the morons. And, when it comes down to it, the easiest defense is the fact that he's a 25 year old with 900+ hits and 3 All-Star appearances to his resume (only one was a year where he was the only Cub, BTW). Those are very good accomplishments. I mean, the hit part, if he keeps it up for his career, he's going to approach 3,000 somehow. That being said, there isn't much beyond that you can really cling to. He's had 2 seasons of WAR 3 or more, and that's good, but going into this year, he was averaging 1.92 WAR/season. That's not terrible, obviously, but it's not some world beater (and that's not factoring in this year's -.4, which without weighting this season differently because the 60 games part would pull that down to 1.53). He has been better than most of their alternatives.
That being said, I am completely on board with them moving him as an intregal piece for pitching. However, I just don't think his value is good enough to be the *main* piece and that sucks.
Yeppers.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 18, 2015, 08:16:28 AM
Eli, I think it's because it's all we got. Starlin was really the first young we've had in a while show some success so I think we rushed to defend him against the morons. And, when it comes down to it, the easiest defense is the fact that he's a 25 year old with 900+ hits and 3 All-Star appearances to his resume (only one was a year where he was the only Cub, BTW). Those are very good accomplishments. I mean, the hit part, if he keeps it up for his career, he's going to approach 3,000 somehow. That being said, there isn't much beyond that you can really cling to. He's had 2 seasons of WAR 3 or more, and that's good, but going into this year, he was averaging 1.92 WAR/season. That's not terrible, obviously, but it's not some world beater (and that's not factoring in this year's -.4, which without weighting this season differently because the 60 games part would pull that down to 1.53). He has been better than most of their alternatives.
That being said, I am completely on board with them moving him as an intregal piece for pitching. However, I just don't think his value is good enough to be the *main* piece and that sucks.
Yeppers.
You guys are overestimating the intelligence of GMs.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 18, 2015, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 18, 2015, 08:16:28 AM
Eli, I think it's because it's all we got. Starlin was really the first young we've had in a while show some success so I think we rushed to defend him against the morons. And, when it comes down to it, the easiest defense is the fact that he's a 25 year old with 900+ hits and 3 All-Star appearances to his resume (only one was a year where he was the only Cub, BTW). Those are very good accomplishments. I mean, the hit part, if he keeps it up for his career, he's going to approach 3,000 somehow. That being said, there isn't much beyond that you can really cling to. He's had 2 seasons of WAR 3 or more, and that's good, but going into this year, he was averaging 1.92 WAR/season. That's not terrible, obviously, but it's not some world beater (and that's not factoring in this year's -.4, which without weighting this season differently because the 60 games part would pull that down to 1.53). He has been better than most of their alternatives.
That being said, I am completely on board with them moving him as an intregal piece for pitching. However, I just don't think his value is good enough to be the *main* piece and that sucks.
Yeppers.
You guys are overestimating the intelligence of GMs.
Maybe that means we finally have a genius as ours?
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 18, 2015, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 18, 2015, 08:16:28 AM
Eli, I think it's because it's all we got. Starlin was really the first young we've had in a while show some success so I think we rushed to defend him against the morons. And, when it comes down to it, the easiest defense is the fact that he's a 25 year old with 900+ hits and 3 All-Star appearances to his resume (only one was a year where he was the only Cub, BTW). Those are very good accomplishments. I mean, the hit part, if he keeps it up for his career, he's going to approach 3,000 somehow. That being said, there isn't much beyond that you can really cling to. He's had 2 seasons of WAR 3 or more, and that's good, but going into this year, he was averaging 1.92 WAR/season. That's not terrible, obviously, but it's not some world beater (and that's not factoring in this year's -.4, which without weighting this season differently because the 60 games part would pull that down to 1.53). He has been better than most of their alternatives.
That being said, I am completely on board with them moving him as an intregal piece for pitching. However, I just don't think his value is good enough to be the *main* piece and that sucks.
Yeppers.
You guys are overestimating the intelligence of GMs.
Which GMs are you referencing? If you look at teams that are likely sellers this year, you have Oakland, where the GM is anything but stupid (despite giving up Addison Russell) and also values defense and on base percentage above almost all else, neither of which is Castro's strong suit.
If you're just referring to how stupid Ruben Amaro is, well, he's dumb, but he's dumb enough to think he can get far better players than Castro for Hamels, so that's of no use to us there, either.
Entirely possible the Mets desperation to find anything of use at SS might lead them to deal a pitching prospect of worth for Castro, but overall I don't see how "stupid GMs" are lining up to throw good pitchers at Theo in return for Starlin Castro.
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2015, 11:02:21 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on June 18, 2015, 10:38:34 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 09:57:40 AM
Quote from: Yeti on June 18, 2015, 08:16:28 AM
Eli, I think it's because it's all we got. Starlin was really the first young we've had in a while show some success so I think we rushed to defend him against the morons. And, when it comes down to it, the easiest defense is the fact that he's a 25 year old with 900+ hits and 3 All-Star appearances to his resume (only one was a year where he was the only Cub, BTW). Those are very good accomplishments. I mean, the hit part, if he keeps it up for his career, he's going to approach 3,000 somehow. That being said, there isn't much beyond that you can really cling to. He's had 2 seasons of WAR 3 or more, and that's good, but going into this year, he was averaging 1.92 WAR/season. That's not terrible, obviously, but it's not some world beater (and that's not factoring in this year's -.4, which without weighting this season differently because the 60 games part would pull that down to 1.53). He has been better than most of their alternatives.
That being said, I am completely on board with them moving him as an intregal piece for pitching. However, I just don't think his value is good enough to be the *main* piece and that sucks.
Yeppers.
You guys are overestimating the intelligence of GMs.
Which GMs are you referencing? If you look at teams that are likely sellers this year, you have Oakland, where the GM is anything but stupid (despite giving up Addison Russell) and also values defense and on base percentage above almost all else, neither of which is Castro's strong suit.
If you're just referring to how stupid Ruben Amaro is, well, he's dumb, but he's dumb enough to think he can get far better players than Castro for Hamels, so that's of no use to us there, either.
Entirely possible the Mets desperation to find anything of use at SS might lead them to deal a pitching prospect of worth for Castro, but overall I don't see how "stupid GMs" are lining up to throw good pitchers at Theo in return for Starlin Castro.
Yep, not as the headliner. It really hurts that Almora continues to disappoint or he could be a major chip. I don't see enough pieces to cobble together to trade with Castro for a Hamels unless Castro ges back to an 800+ OPS.
My guess is that if the Cubs want Hamels, the header would be Baez, not Castro at this point. And maybe even Baez is too low. Could be Schwarber.
Castro is like Cutler. Not as good as I hoped and dreamed and prayed he'd be. Not as bad as the shitbirds think either.
He doesn't have Cutler's contract and was homegrown so they didn't have to give up part of the future to get him. So if he's not Jose Reyes then oh, well, fuck it.
He's not Juan Pierre either. He's just not. Your breath is bad.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 11:06:38 AM
My guess is that if the Cubs want Hamels, the header would be Baez, not Castro at this point. And maybe even Baez is too low. Could be Schwarber.
I'm sure the Phillies would love Schwarber, but I don't think the Cubs want to do it. If they did, Hamels would probably already be a Cub.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 18, 2015, 02:14:07 PM
Castro is like Cutler. Not as good as I hoped and dreamed and prayed he'd be. Not as bad as the shitbirds think either.
He doesn't have Cutler's contract and was homegrown so they didn't have to give up part of the future to get him. So if he's not Jose Reyes then oh, well, fuck it.
He's not Juan Pierre either. He's just not. Your breath is bad.
I like this.
Quote from: InternetApex on June 18, 2015, 02:14:07 PM
He's not Juan Pierre either. He's just not. Your breath is bad.
Definitely not. Pierre had a couple of 4-WAR seasons in his career.
Which is what I'm sure you meant.
Starlin is Starlin and he's here till he's not and I hope he does well while he's here. All of you go to your rooms and leave his splooge thread alone.
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2015, 03:42:19 PM
Starlin is Starlin and he's here till he's not and I hope he does well while he's here. All of you go to your rooms and leave his splooge thread alone.
The way he's playing, that won't be an issue.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2015, 03:42:19 PM
Starlin is Starlin and he's here till he's not and I hope he does well while he's here. All of you go to your rooms and leave his splooge thread alone.
The way he's playing, that won't be an issue.
After Rosario just scored from 2nd on that boot of a double-play ball, I'm done with this fucktard for good. Let him be someone else's petulant, slapdick hitting, can't-field for shit shortstop.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 19, 2015, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2015, 03:42:19 PM
Starlin is Starlin and he's here till he's not and I hope he does well while he's here. All of you go to your rooms and leave his splooge thread alone.
The way he's playing, that won't be an issue.
After Rosario just scored from 2nd on that boot of a double-play ball, I'm done with this fucktard for good. Let him be someone else's petulant, slapdick hitting, can't-field for shit shortstop.
We can always count on you
Quote from: Slaky on June 20, 2015, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 19, 2015, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2015, 03:42:19 PM
Starlin is Starlin and he's here till he's not and I hope he does well while he's here. All of you go to your rooms and leave his splooge thread alone.
The way he's playing, that won't be an issue.
After Rosario just scored from 2nd on that boot of a double-play ball, I'm done with this fucktard for good. Let him be someone else's petulant, slapdick hitting, can't-field for shit shortstop.
We can always count on you
Seriously...all he's done this season is be a -0.4 WAR hitter, and -6 runs below average in the field. In other words, he's been a drag on the team and has reduced his trade value to ashes.
If anyone needs us to go balls to the wall, gas-soaked firebarn, full-on-hate, so he improves, it's Starlin.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 20, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
If anyone needs us to go balls to the wall, gas-soaked firebarn, full-on-hate, so he improves, it's Starlin.
I ... agree ... with CFiHP?
Quote from: Sterling Archer on June 20, 2015, 03:35:37 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 20, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
If anyone needs us to go balls to the wall, gas-soaked firebarn, full-on-hate, so he improves, it's Starlin.
I ... agree ... with CFiHP?
It's working
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 20, 2015, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: Slaky on June 20, 2015, 11:36:18 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on June 19, 2015, 07:27:45 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2015, 03:42:19 PM
Starlin is Starlin and he's here till he's not and I hope he does well while he's here. All of you go to your rooms and leave his splooge thread alone.
The way he's playing, that won't be an issue.
After Rosario just scored from 2nd on that boot of a double-play ball, I'm done with this fucktard for good. Let him be someone else's petulant, slapdick hitting, can't-field for shit shortstop.
We can always count on you
Seriously...all he's done this season is be a -0.4 WAR hitter, and -6 runs below average in the field. In other words, he's been a drag on the team and has reduced his trade value to ashes.
If anyone needs us to go balls to the wall, gas-soaked firebarn, full-on-hate, so he improves, it's Starlin.
Well good work. He just won the game.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 18, 2015, 04:01:10 PM
Quote from: SKO on June 18, 2015, 03:42:19 PM
Starlin is Starlin and he's here till he's not and I hope he does well while he's here. All of you go to your rooms and leave his splooge thread alone.
The way he's playing, that won't be an issue.
Get fucked, Chuck
He sprinted down the line to beat the throw and collected another game-winning hit. And it was right in front of the Mets' faces. That's totally worth Syndergaard + Matz + a stud pitcher to be named later.
*dusts off thread*
Let this be the start of the return to replacement level
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
*dusts off thread*
Let this be the start of the return to replacement level
Indeed....
Though I logged on Twitter to find people dubbing this the Starlin Castro game. Now, it may have been tongue-in-cheek, which I will ignore for my own purposes, but I'm going to go with 2-5, HR, 3B, 6 RBI as more of "The Starlin Castro Game" than tonight. That was only his MLB debut
Quote from: Yeti on August 04, 2015, 11:54:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
*dusts off thread*
Let this be the start of the return to replacement level
Indeed....
Though I logged on Twitter to find people dubbing this the Starlin Castro game. Now, it may have been tongue-in-cheek, which I will ignore for my own purposes, but I'm going to go with 2-5, HR, 3B, 6 RBI as more of "The Starlin Castro Game" than tonight. That was only his MLB debut
It was tongue-in-cheek when I said it, but even were it not I would defend a big game against the team they're chasing for the top wildcard spot in the middle of a playoff race as The Starlin Castro game over a rookie debut in a year that was frustrating and pointless, however impressive said debut was.
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:21:25 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 04, 2015, 11:54:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
*dusts off thread*
Let this be the start of the return to replacement level
Indeed....
Though I logged on Twitter to find people dubbing this the Starlin Castro game. Now, it may have been tongue-in-cheek, which I will ignore for my own purposes, but I'm going to go with 2-5, HR, 3B, 6 RBI as more of "The Starlin Castro Game" than tonight. That was only his MLB debut
It was tongue-in-cheek when I said it, but even were it not I would defend a big game against the team they're chasing for the top wildcard spot in the middle of a playoff race as The Starlin Castro game over a rookie debut in a year that was frustrating and pointless, however impressive said debut was.
I'm just happy he had a good game. Maybe he can have another one tonight, or at least sometime this week.
Quote from: Eli on August 05, 2015, 08:20:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on August 05, 2015, 07:21:25 AM
Quote from: Yeti on August 04, 2015, 11:54:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
*dusts off thread*
Let this be the start of the return to replacement level
Indeed....
Though I logged on Twitter to find people dubbing this the Starlin Castro game. Now, it may have been tongue-in-cheek, which I will ignore for my own purposes, but I'm going to go with 2-5, HR, 3B, 6 RBI as more of "The Starlin Castro Game" than tonight. That was only his MLB debut
It was tongue-in-cheek when I said it, but even were it not I would defend a big game against the team they're chasing for the top wildcard spot in the middle of a playoff race as The Starlin Castro game over a rookie debut in a year that was frustrating and pointless, however impressive said debut was.
I'm just happy he had a good game. Maybe he can have another one tonight, or at least sometime this week.
That'd be peachy keen, if I dare say so.
Quote from: SKO on August 04, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
*dusts off thread*
Let this be the start of the return to replacement level
So much for that. RIP Starlin.
Quote from: @MLBBruceLevine
Castro said if he was asked to play other positions he would want to talk to teams front office
STARLIN: So, Theo, you guys want me to play another position now. Does that mean I suck?
THEO: Yep, sorry, but you suck.
STARLIN: Ok great, just checking.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 08, 2015, 07:15:49 PM
Quote from: @MLBBruceLevine
Castro said if he was asked to play other positions he would want to talk to teams front office
STARLIN: So, Theo, you guys want me to play another position now. Does that mean I suck?
THEO: Yep, sorry, but you suck. Oh, and we want you to fill in at other positons, not start. Because, you suck.
STARLIN: Ok great, just checking.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on August 08, 2015, 09:42:47 PM
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 08, 2015, 07:15:49 PM
Quote from: @MLBBruceLevine
Castro said if he was asked to play other positions he would want to talk to teams front office
STARLIN: So, Theo, you guys want me to play another position now. Does that mean I suck?
THEO: Yep, sorry, but you suck. Oh, and we want you to fill in at other positons, not start. Because, you suck.
STARLIN: Ok great, just checking.
Love to be happy when players on my team do bad and have to be benched
Quote from: Sterling Archer on August 08, 2015, 07:15:49 PM
Quote from: @MLBBruceLevine
Castro said if he was asked to play other positions he would want to talk to teams front office
STARLIN: So, Theo, you guys want me to play another position now. Does that mean I suck?
THEO: Yep, sorry, but you suck.
STARLIN: Ok great, just checking.
Not true. Starlin would get distracted on the way to Theo's Office
*dusts off thread* he's back, mother fuckers
Quote from: SKO on September 30, 2015, 07:54:33 PM
*dusts off thread* he's back, mother fuckers
What a turnaround. This is remarkable stuff. He's comeback player of the year within this season.
Is he still gone after season?
I say yes but I'm rather intrigued right now.
Quote from: PANK! on October 01, 2015, 12:41:17 AM
Is he still gone after season?
I say yes but I'm rather intrigued right now.
I'd say so. His trade value has spiked and although it's great to have him around now, it's only a matter of time before he goes into another prolonged slump. Theo and Jed will move him before that happens and Baez will start at 2B on opening day next year.
I'mma miss Starlin's chubby little cheeks, though. I really fucking like the dude.
Quote from: Tonker on October 01, 2015, 01:15:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 01, 2015, 12:41:17 AM
Is he still gone after season?
I say yes but I'm rather intrigued right now.
I'd say so. His trade value has spiked and although it's great to have him around now, it's only a matter of time before he goes into another prolonged slump. Theo and Jed will move him before that happens and Baez will start at 2B on opening day next year.
I'mma miss Starlin's chubby little cheeks, though. I really fucking like the dude.
If not, I could get used to Baez at third and Bryant in right, even though it might make the team somewhat more defensively suspect.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 01, 2015, 05:34:25 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 01, 2015, 01:15:11 AM
Quote from: PANK! on October 01, 2015, 12:41:17 AM
Is he still gone after season?
I say yes but I'm rather intrigued right now.
I'd say so. His trade value has spiked and although it's great to have him around now, it's only a matter of time before he goes into another prolonged slump. Theo and Jed will move him before that happens and Baez will start at 2B on opening day next year.
I'mma miss Starlin's chubby little cheeks, though. I really fucking like the dude.
If not, I could get used to Baez at third and Bryant in right, even though it might make the team somewhat more defensively suspect.
I'm not sure it would at all. I think Bryant is a better 3B than advertised but with Javy's arm and range I think he could be a top tier defensive 3B (or 2B), and Bryant has all of the tools one would think of for a good defensive corner OF. Considering they've started Jorge or Coghlan in RF for a good chunk of the year I can't see how they'd be
more defensively suspect.
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
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Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting
him in center while saying
Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
Edited to add: also, I could be wrong, but I thought Bryant projected well as a left fielder, if not a third baseman.
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
That he'll play wherever the team needs him but his heart is at 3B.
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
I'm not going to be able to find it at work. I believe he said he will play anywhere, but he feels the most comfortable at third. I apologize in advance if I'm wrong.
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
That he'll play wherever the team needs him but his heart is at 3B.
Bryant could be a very solid third baseman, and so it not only stands to reason but has been demonstrated (albeit in small samples) that he could be a solid right fielder.
Baez, though, would already be a better third baseman than Bryant, if you want to go down that road.
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
Even homo?
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
Even homo?
You just made IAN moist.
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
That he'll play wherever the team needs him but his heart is at 3B.
Bryant could be a very solid third baseman, and so it not only stands to reason but has been demonstrated (albeit in small samples) that he could be a solid right fielder.
Baez, though, would already be a better third baseman than Bryant, if you want to go down that road.
This. Bryant has been better than advertised and can definitely stick at 3B for more than the Ryan Braun-esque cameo-before-moving-to-LF stint that was predicted for him by many a scout, but Javy would seem to have the tools to be a downright elite 3B. That barehand play he made in St. Louis still boggles my mind.
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Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
That he'll play wherever the team needs him but his heart is at 3B.
Bryant could be a very solid third baseman, and so it not only stands to reason but has been demonstrated (albeit in small samples) that he could be a solid right fielder.
Baez, though, would already be a better third baseman than Bryant, if you want to go down that road.
This. Bryant has been better than advertised and can definitely stick at 3B for more than the Ryan Braun-esque cameo-before-moving-to-LF stint that was predicted for him by many a scout, but Javy would seem to have the tools to be a downright elite 3B. That barehand play he made in St. Louis still boggles my mind.
I saw one in Philadelphia where he charged a SAC bunt attempt which rolled toward 3rd (barely), barehanded it and gunned the runner out at second. I was 7th row, even with the spot half-way from third to home where he scooped it, and needed an usher to clean my row afterward.
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Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
That he'll play wherever the team needs him but his heart is at 3B.
Bryant could be a very solid third baseman, and so it not only stands to reason but has been demonstrated (albeit in small samples) that he could be a solid right fielder.
Baez, though, would already be a better third baseman than Bryant, if you want to go down that road.
This. Bryant has been better than advertised and can definitely stick at 3B for more than the Ryan Braun-esque cameo-before-moving-to-LF stint that was predicted for him by many a scout, but Javy would seem to have the tools to be a downright elite 3B. That barehand play he made in St. Louis still boggles my mind.
So, if you move Bryant to the OF and you don't trade Soler, Bryant in center? Soler in CF? It gets a lot easier if Schwarber can really catch. You could do Soler in LF, Bryant in RF and Fowler / replacement in CF.
At this point, why do anything unless someone's offering a good package for Castro?
Unless I'm missing something, having a roster full of guys who are good and can play multiple positions is good, right?
If anything, the most pressing need to me appears to be finding somebody who can spell Rizzo at first once every three weeks or so.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
At this point, why do anything unless someone's offering a good package for Castro?
Unless I'm missing something, having a roster full of guys who are good and can play multiple positions is good, right?
If anything, the most pressing need to me appears to be finding somebody who can spell Rizzo at first once every three weeks or so.
Well Joe had Javy play first last night. Maybe they're just planning to keep everyone and have Javy be the new Zobrist, since he's now played every infield position but catcher and seems to have lowered that BMI enough to enable him to play some OF if needed.
But my guess is still someone gets traded. Provided that it's for something they really need like a young, good cost-controlled starter like Ross or Carrasco, I can make myself live with a world where Castro, Javy, or Soler have been moved.
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
At this point, why do anything unless someone's offering a good package for Castro?
Unless I'm missing something, having a roster full of guys who are good and can play multiple positions is good, right?
If anything, the most pressing need to me appears to be finding somebody who can spell Rizzo at first once every three weeks or so.
Well Joe had Javy play first last night. Maybe they're just planning to keep everyone and have Javy be the new Zobrist, since he's now played every infield position but catcher and seems to have lowered that BMI enough to enable him to play some OF if needed.
Can I split hairs here?
Because I don't view the catcher (or pitcher) as part of the infield but, rather, the "battery". Therefore, Javy's played every infield position this year.
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
At this point, why do anything unless someone's offering a good package for Castro?
Unless I'm missing something, having a roster full of guys who are good and can play multiple positions is good, right?
If anything, the most pressing need to me appears to be finding somebody who can spell Rizzo at first once every three weeks or so.
Well Joe had Javy play first last night. Maybe they're just planning to keep everyone and have Javy be the new Zobrist, since he's now played every infield position but catcher and seems to have lowered that BMI enough to enable him to play some OF if needed.
Can I split hairs here?
Because I don't view the catcher (or pitcher) as part of the infield but, rather, the "battery". Therefore, Javy's played every infield position this year.
I was going to answer "no" but...
Quote from: SKO on October 01, 2015, 11:29:00 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
At this point, why do anything unless someone's offering a good package for Castro?
Unless I'm missing something, having a roster full of guys who are good and can play multiple positions is good, right?
If anything, the most pressing need to me appears to be finding somebody who can spell Rizzo at first once every three weeks or so.
Well Joe had Javy play first last night.
Bryant played first Monday night. He was on the wrong side of competent.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
At this point, why do anything unless someone's offering a good package for Castro?
Unless I'm missing something, having a roster full of guys who are good and can play multiple positions is good, right?
I'm sure they wouldn't trade him just to trade him. I think the prevailing thought is that they could use Castro (or whoever they trade) to get help for the rotation, which they'll have to address this winter.
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Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
At this point, why do anything unless someone's offering a good package for Castro?
Unless I'm missing something, having a roster full of guys who are good and can play multiple positions is good, right?
I'm sure they wouldn't trade him just to trade him. I think the prevailing thought is that they could use Castro (or whoever they trade) to get help for the rotation, which they'll have to address this winter.
There's also going to be a fuckload of FA pitching, so they might not have to lose anybody.
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Quote from: Eli on October 01, 2015, 11:46:19 AM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 11:23:32 AM
At this point, why do anything unless someone's offering a good package for Castro?
Unless I'm missing something, having a roster full of guys who are good and can play multiple positions is good, right?
I'm sure they wouldn't trade him just to trade him. I think the prevailing thought is that they could use Castro (or whoever they trade) to get help for the rotation, which they'll have to address this winter.
There's also going to be a fuckload of FA pitching, so they might not have to lose anybody.
They don't
have to lose anybody, we've established that the other 500 times we've had this conversation. They might be better off trading a piece they don't
really need for young starting pitching though. Even if they can afford a TOR starter in FA, there's a lot of reasons why trading for a cheaper pitcher under the age of 30 makes way more sense. Lester's over 30, Jake isn't really young, Hammel can't really be relied on...a young guy they can build around would be very nice to have.
DPD, but say the Cubs can offer Castro and some prospects to get Ross or Carrasco or one of the young Rays starters. Then you could sign a guy like Mike Leake for far less than Price would cost, and use the leftover money to keep Fowler, shore up the bullpen, etc. That's not just the Cubs being too cheap to go after Price or whatever, that's arguably a better way to build the roster and ensure you're not dependent on a rotation with four guys over 30 in it.
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DPD, but say the Cubs can offer Castro and some prospects to get Ross or Carrasco or one of the young Rays starters. Then you could sign a guy like Mike Leake for far less than Price would cost, and use the leftover money to keep Fowler, shore up the bullpen, etc. That's not just the Cubs being too cheap to go after Price or whatever, that's arguably a better way to build the roster and ensure you're not dependent on a rotation with four guys over 30 in it.
Going back to Eli's Felix Hernandez idea/fantasy - which largely depends on whether or not Dipoto wants to do a complete teardown - I was taking a look at his numbers compared to Price, and they're strikingly similar (including age) with one exception. First 4 stats are over the last 5 years; the last one is a career total. Should the fact that Felix has thrown that many more major league pitches make my ass itch? Or are all pitches (college/minors/majors) created relatively equal from an arm-stress standpoint?
Price8.8 K/9
1.9 BB/9
2.98 FIP
3.13 xFIP
1441 major league IP
Felix8.9 K/9
2.2 BB/9
2.96 FIP
2.97 xFIP
2262 major league IP
I know this is far more optimistic than realistic, but I'm kind of hopeful that Ricketts will splurge on a ridiculous amount of starting pitching over the next 4-5 years. The logic is that pretty much every piece of the Cubs offense is locked up for 5 or 6 years at team-friendly rates, right up until they begin (hopefully) extending them. The Cubs could go out and get a couple of high-priced starters who might even be totally off the books by the time they need to resign Bryant.
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Quote from: R-V on October 01, 2015, 09:59:06 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 01, 2015, 09:52:13 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 01, 2015, 09:48:51 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 01, 2015, 09:41:42 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 01, 2015, 09:38:50 AM
Quote from: Armchair_QB on October 01, 2015, 09:34:14 AM
Yeah, but then what do you do with Soler? Hate to give up on that bat.
And I'll add that this is a nice fucking problem to have.
Good point. ...stick him in center? And yes, this is a really nice problem to have.
Re: my defensively suspect comment - I'm more referring to keeping Starlin on the field, and the fact that Bryant is probably not the best defensive choice for an outfield position (although he may be serviceable).
Have you...have you watched Jorge Soler play right field this year? And you're suggesting putting him in center while saying Bryant is the one that's a poor choice to be a defensive outfielder? I've seen plenty of scouts make Bryant-Alex Gordon comparisons as a guy whose height and struggles at 3B would lead him to move to the OF, where his speed would actually make him very effective. He's started games in CF and both corner OF spots this year and looked more than competent doing so. Certainly better than Jorge has for the most part.
Kurt is either joking or doesn't watch baseball.
More I'm basing what I'm saying on what Bryant has said re: his comfort level. But yeah, I honestly have no idea how they should juggle the outfield if Castro stays.
What has he said? My recollection was that he's down for anything.
That he'll play wherever the team needs him but his heart is at 3B.
Bryant could be a very solid third baseman, and so it not only stands to reason but has been demonstrated (albeit in small samples) that he could be a solid right fielder.
Baez, though, would already be a better third baseman than Bryant, if you want to go down that road.
This. Bryant has been better than advertised and can definitely stick at 3B for more than the Ryan Braun-esque cameo-before-moving-to-LF stint that was predicted for him by many a scout, but Javy would seem to have the tools to be a downright elite 3B. That barehand play he made in St. Louis still boggles my mind.
So, if you move Bryant to the OF and you don't trade Soler, Bryant in center? Soler in CF? It gets a lot easier if Schwarber can really catch. You could do Soler in LF, Bryant in RF and Fowler / replacement in CF.
I think they should just move Schwarber to CF for the simple reason it would be funny as hell to watch...
I'm getting more and more leery of resigning Fowler, just because teams that pay a lot of dough for a veteran who has the best year in his life during a contract year generally regret doing so.
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
I'm getting more and more leery of resigning Fowler, just because teams that pay a lot of dough for a veteran who has the best year in his life during a contract year generally regret doing so.
But 200 million+ (and that's what Price will cost) for a pitcher over 30 doesn't scare the living shit out of you?
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
I'm getting more and more leery of resigning Fowler, just because teams that pay a lot of dough for a veteran who has the best year in his life during a contract year generally regret doing so.
Is Austin Jackson a viable, cheap alternative? He's a year younger, plays center, and his WAR isn't that much worse than Fowler's. That's more money for pitching.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 01, 2015, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
I'm getting more and more leery of resigning Fowler, just because teams that pay a lot of dough for a veteran who has the best year in his life during a contract year generally regret doing so.
Is Austin Jackson a viable, cheap alternative? He's a year younger, plays center, and his WAR isn't that much worse than Fowler's. That's more money for pitching.
I think you should have to post their WARs when you say this because my initial reaction is, bullshit.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on October 01, 2015, 03:34:49 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on October 01, 2015, 03:32:01 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
I'm getting more and more leery of resigning Fowler, just because teams that pay a lot of dough for a veteran who has the best year in his life during a contract year generally regret doing so.
Is Austin Jackson a viable, cheap alternative? He's a year younger, plays center, and his WAR isn't that much worse than Fowler's. That's more money for pitching.
I think you should have to post their WARs when you say this because my initial reaction is, bullshit.
Fowler - 3.1 fWAR
Jackson - 2.2 fWAR
Quote from: SKO on October 01, 2015, 03:02:27 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
I'm getting more and more leery of resigning Fowler, just because teams that pay a lot of dough for a veteran who has the best year in his life during a contract year generally regret doing so.
But 200 million+ (and that's what Price will cost) for a pitcher over 30 doesn't scare the living shit out of you?
I think the difference here is that $200M (or close to it) is basically the cost of admission for a top-tier pitcher, while you can get a pretty decent CF for relatively cheaper than the $15/year it's probably going to cost to sign Fowler who can keep the spot warm until Baez/Torres/Bryant converts to full-time CF.
Quote from: SKO on October 01, 2015, 03:02:27 PM
Quote from: Median Desipio Chucklehead on October 01, 2015, 02:59:22 PM
I'm getting more and more leery of resigning Fowler, just because teams that pay a lot of dough for a veteran who has the best year in his life during a contract year generally regret doing so.
But 200 million+ (and that's what Price will cost) for a pitcher over 30 doesn't scare the living shit out of you?
David Price is an elite-level pitcher. Dexter Fowler is a decent center fielder having the season of his life.
Quote from: R-V on October 01, 2015, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 01, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
DPD, but say the Cubs can offer Castro and some prospects to get Ross or Carrasco or one of the young Rays starters. Then you could sign a guy like Mike Leake for far less than Price would cost, and use the leftover money to keep Fowler, shore up the bullpen, etc. That's not just the Cubs being too cheap to go after Price or whatever, that's arguably a better way to build the roster and ensure you're not dependent on a rotation with four guys over 30 in it.
Going back to Eli's Felix Hernandez idea/fantasy - which largely depends on whether or not Dipoto wants to do a complete teardown - I was taking a look at his numbers compared to Price, and they're strikingly similar (including age) with one exception. First 4 stats are over the last 5 years; the last one is a career total. Should the fact that Felix has thrown that many more major league pitches make my ass itch? Or are all pitches (college/minors/majors) created relatively equal from an arm-stress standpoint?
Price
8.8 K/9
1.9 BB/9
2.98 FIP
3.13 xFIP
1441 major league IP
Felix
8.9 K/9
2.2 BB/9
2.96 FIP
2.97 xFIP
2262 major league IP
I think some part of that was Felix hitting the bigs at 19 and Price having a full college career. I don't think it covers the whole gap, but Price was still throwing through those years.
I'm not too worried about the health of either guy. Aren't there studies showing that guys who are healthy up until a certain age/innings level tend to remain healthy for most of their careers? Maybe I'm making that up.
Quote from: Eli on October 01, 2015, 08:53:44 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 01, 2015, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 01, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
DPD, but say the Cubs can offer Castro and some prospects to get Ross or Carrasco or one of the young Rays starters. Then you could sign a guy like Mike Leake for far less than Price would cost, and use the leftover money to keep Fowler, shore up the bullpen, etc. That's not just the Cubs being too cheap to go after Price or whatever, that's arguably a better way to build the roster and ensure you're not dependent on a rotation with four guys over 30 in it.
Going back to Eli's Felix Hernandez idea/fantasy - which largely depends on whether or not Dipoto wants to do a complete teardown - I was taking a look at his numbers compared to Price, and they're strikingly similar (including age) with one exception. First 4 stats are over the last 5 years; the last one is a career total. Should the fact that Felix has thrown that many more major league pitches make my ass itch? Or are all pitches (college/minors/majors) created relatively equal from an arm-stress standpoint?
Price
8.8 K/9
1.9 BB/9
2.98 FIP
3.13 xFIP
1441 major league IP
Felix
8.9 K/9
2.2 BB/9
2.96 FIP
2.97 xFIP
2262 major league IP
I think some part of that was Felix hitting the bigs at 19 and Price having a full college career. I don't think it covers the whole gap, but Price was still throwing through those years.
I'm not too worried about the health of either guy. Aren't there studies showing that guys who are healthy up until a certain age/innings level tend to remain healthy for most of their careers? Maybe I'm making that up.
As a counterpoint -- and I could be making this up -- there hasn't been a pitcher who's signed a 100 million dollar contract and remained healthy for the duration of the deal. That's what makes signing pitchers on the free agent market so obscene. Teams are not only paying a ton of money, but the actual cost is even greater because they're likely getting 4 years of production on a 6+ year contract. The only teams that "win" are the ones who have enough money to keep signing expensive pitchers even when their current crop begins to go bust. (In other words, the Yankees.)
Quote from: Eli on October 01, 2015, 08:53:44 PM
I'm not too worried about the health of either guy. Aren't there studies showing that guys who are healthy up until a certain age/innings level tend to remain healthy for most of their careers? Maybe I'm making that up.
Oh sure...it's okay when YOU do it.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 01, 2015, 09:00:44 PM
As a counterpoint -- and I could be making this up --
Look what you've done
Quote from: PANK! on October 01, 2015, 10:32:38 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 01, 2015, 08:53:44 PM
I'm not too worried about the health of either guy. Aren't there studies showing that guys who are healthy up until a certain age/innings level tend to remain healthy for most of their careers? Maybe I'm making that up.
Oh sure...it's okay when YOU do it.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 01, 2015, 09:00:44 PM
As a counterpoint -- and I could be making this up --
Look what you've done
I could be making this up, but did Javy Baez suck today or what!
Quote from: Eli on October 01, 2015, 08:53:44 PM
Quote from: R-V on October 01, 2015, 01:11:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 01, 2015, 12:54:48 PM
DPD, but say the Cubs can offer Castro and some prospects to get Ross or Carrasco or one of the young Rays starters. Then you could sign a guy like Mike Leake for far less than Price would cost, and use the leftover money to keep Fowler, shore up the bullpen, etc. That's not just the Cubs being too cheap to go after Price or whatever, that's arguably a better way to build the roster and ensure you're not dependent on a rotation with four guys over 30 in it.
Going back to Eli's Felix Hernandez idea/fantasy - which largely depends on whether or not Dipoto wants to do a complete teardown - I was taking a look at his numbers compared to Price, and they're strikingly similar (including age) with one exception. First 4 stats are over the last 5 years; the last one is a career total. Should the fact that Felix has thrown that many more major league pitches make my ass itch? Or are all pitches (college/minors/majors) created relatively equal from an arm-stress standpoint?
Price
8.8 K/9
1.9 BB/9
2.98 FIP
3.13 xFIP
1441 major league IP
Felix
8.9 K/9
2.2 BB/9
2.96 FIP
2.97 xFIP
2262 major league IP
I think some part of that was Felix hitting the bigs at 19 and Price having a full college career. I don't think it covers the whole gap, but Price was still throwing through those years.
I'm not too worried about the health of either guy. Aren't there studies showing that guys who are healthy up until a certain age/innings level tend to remain healthy for most of their careers? Maybe I'm making that up.
Perfect timing, Sahadev. (http://wrigleyville.locals.baseballprospectus.com/2015/10/02/maddon-reaches-into-the-unknown-as-arrieta-reaches-new-heights/)
QuoteThe Injury Nexus was something Nate Silver explored over a dozen years ago. The basic premise is that if a pitcher can get past the age of roughly 24 without suffering a serious injury, their chances of them suffering recurring injuries down the line reduces significantly. Every bit of information I found on the topic of pitch counts pointed to young pitchers being at greatest risk. As Passan pointed out, that isn't to say that once you get to the age of 25 and plow past it to 30 without any injury that you're safe. Bronson Arroyo says hello and Greg Holland would like to have a word with you. Nothing is guaranteed here.
There isn't a large enough font size...
FYC!
Intrepid Reader: Chuck
"Priorities." (https://twitter.com/ivychat/status/653736831649841152)
Starlin trolled on that last play. Then he pranced through the handshake line like it was his fucking birthday. His reaction to Rizzo's homer was incredible.
This is Starlin's team, I think.
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Starlin trolled on that last play. Then he pranced through the handshake line like it was his fucking birthday. His reaction to Rizzo's homer was incredible.
This is Starlin's team, I think.
Fuck TBS for not giving us a single Castro walkup.
Jagoffs.
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Starlin trolled on that last play. Then he pranced through the handshake line like it was his fucking birthday. His reaction to Rizzo's homer was incredible.
This is Starlin's team, I think.
He definitely made me liquid poop.
He deserves a ton of credit. He started this year like a flat out bum. But he has done a massive 180 and turned his year around and so go the Cubs. I don't think it's Starlin's team; that seems to be Rizzo's thing. But if Rizzo is President, Starlin is definitely VP.
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on October 13, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Starlin trolled on that last play. Then he pranced through the handshake line like it was his fucking birthday. His reaction to Rizzo's homer was incredible.
This is Starlin's team, I think.
He definitely made me liquid poop.
He deserves a ton of credit. He started this year like a flat out bum. But he has done a massive 180 and turned his year around and so go the Cubs. I don't think it's Starlin's team; that seems to be Rizzo's thing. But if Rizzo is President, Starlin is definitely VP.
I think Rizzo is the leader in a lot of ways, but I think, hilariously enough for all that it irritates the shit out of old white people and especially the BFIB, Starlin's attitude has set the tone. They goof off. They have fun. They smile. They celebrate wildly. They pose on their home runs. I think Starlin really solidified that when nothing about his attitude changed when he got benched. He was still having fun every day. His jump and twirl on the final out of Jake's no hitter is one of my favorite memories of this year.
He's their heart, I'd say.
Quote from: SKO on October 13, 2015, 08:05:36 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on October 13, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Starlin trolled on that last play. Then he pranced through the handshake line like it was his fucking birthday. His reaction to Rizzo's homer was incredible.
This is Starlin's team, I think.
He definitely made me liquid poop.
He deserves a ton of credit. He started this year like a flat out bum. But he has done a massive 180 and turned his year around and so go the Cubs. I don't think it's Starlin's team; that seems to be Rizzo's thing. But if Rizzo is President, Starlin is definitely VP.
I think Rizzo is the leader in a lot of ways, but I think, hilariously enough for all that it irritates the shit out of old white people and especially the BFIB, Starlin's attitude has set the tone. They goof off. They have fun. They smile. They celebrate wildly. They pose on their home runs. I think Starlin really solidified that when nothing about his attitude changed when he got benched. He was still having fun every day. His jump and twirl on the final out of Jake's no hitter is one of my favorite memories of this year.
He's their heart, I'd say.
And if team chemistry is a thing, moving him at the deadline could have really fucked with it.
Quote from: Tony on October 13, 2015, 08:25:52 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 13, 2015, 08:05:36 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on October 13, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Starlin trolled on that last play. Then he pranced through the handshake line like it was his fucking birthday. His reaction to Rizzo's homer was incredible.
This is Starlin's team, I think.
He definitely made me liquid poop.
He deserves a ton of credit. He started this year like a flat out bum. But he has done a massive 180 and turned his year around and so go the Cubs. I don't think it's Starlin's team; that seems to be Rizzo's thing. But if Rizzo is President, Starlin is definitely VP.
I think Rizzo is the leader in a lot of ways, but I think, hilariously enough for all that it irritates the shit out of old white people and especially the BFIB, Starlin's attitude has set the tone. They goof off. They have fun. They smile. They celebrate wildly. They pose on their home runs. I think Starlin really solidified that when nothing about his attitude changed when he got benched. He was still having fun every day. His jump and twirl on the final out of Jake's no hitter is one of my favorite memories of this year.
He's their heart, I'd say.
And if team chemistry is a thing, moving him at the deadline could have really fucked with it.
I think what you're all trying to say is "FYC."
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on October 13, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Starlin trolled on that last play. Then he pranced through the handshake line like it was his fucking birthday. His reaction to Rizzo's homer was incredible.
This is Starlin's team, I think.
He definitely made me liquid poop.
He deserves a ton of credit. He started this year like a flat out bum. But he has done a massive 180 and turned his year around and so go the Cubs. I don't think it's Starlin's team; that seems to be Rizzo's thing. But if Rizzo is President, Starlin is definitely VP.
For the tenth time that day
Quote from: SKO on October 13, 2015, 08:05:36 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on October 13, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Starlin trolled on that last play. Then he pranced through the handshake line like it was his fucking birthday. His reaction to Rizzo's homer was incredible.
This is Starlin's team, I think.
He definitely made me liquid poop.
He deserves a ton of credit. He started this year like a flat out bum. But he has done a massive 180 and turned his year around and so go the Cubs. I don't think it's Starlin's team; that seems to be Rizzo's thing. But if Rizzo is President, Starlin is definitely VP.
I think Rizzo is the leader in a lot of ways, but I think, hilariously enough for all that it irritates the shit out of old white people and especially the BFIB, Starlin's attitude has set the tone. They goof off. They have fun. They smile. They celebrate wildly. They pose on their home runs. I think Starlin really solidified that when nothing about his attitude changed when he got benched. He was still having fun every day. His jump and twirl on the final out of Jake's no hitter is one of my favorite memories of this year.
He's their heart, I'd say.
I actually wonder how much of what is happening started with the team rallying around him once he lost his jorb and everyone thought he was headed out the door. The whole hand clapping during his walkup thing started right around that time, if I'm not mistaken.
Quote from: SKO on October 13, 2015, 08:05:36 AM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on October 13, 2015, 08:01:01 AM
Quote from: Slaky on October 12, 2015, 10:26:07 PM
Starlin trolled on that last play. Then he pranced through the handshake line like it was his fucking birthday. His reaction to Rizzo's homer was incredible.
This is Starlin's team, I think.
He definitely made me liquid poop.
He deserves a ton of credit. He started this year like a flat out bum. But he has done a massive 180 and turned his year around and so go the Cubs. I don't think it's Starlin's team; that seems to be Rizzo's thing. But if Rizzo is President, Starlin is definitely VP.
I think Rizzo is the leader in a lot of ways, but I think, hilariously enough for all that it irritates the shit out of old white people and especially the BFIB, Starlin's attitude has set the tone. They goof off. They have fun. They smile. They celebrate wildly. They pose on their home runs. I think Starlin really solidified that when nothing about his attitude changed when he got benched. He was still having fun every day. His jump and twirl on the final out of Jake's no hitter is one of my favorite memories of this year.
He's their heart, I'd say.
That one's right up there with Castro's shadowing Kris Bryant's throwing routine for me.
(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/1/1/6/154218116/101215_chc_castro_reaction_med_fix_qy454qcq.gif)
Quote from: D. Doluntap on October 13, 2015, 01:19:11 PM
(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/1/1/6/154218116/101215_chc_castro_reaction_med_fix_qy454qcq.gif)
Haha, look at the stinkface on Castro.
Quote from: D. Doluntap on October 13, 2015, 01:19:11 PM
(http://mlb.mlb.com/images/1/1/6/154218116/101215_chc_castro_reaction_med_fix_qy454qcq.gif)
That's ace.
Quote from: Tonker on October 13, 2015, 01:24:13 PM
Quote from: D. Doluntap on October 13, 2015, 01:19:11 PM
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That's ace.
That's proprietary content and MLBAM is not amused.
I got expressed oral consent.
Goodbye, you goof.
:0(
It's a little dusty in here right now... (http://www.theplayerstribune.com/starlin-castro-cubs-yankees/)
Quote from: Canadouche on January 06, 2016, 11:25:05 AM
It's a little dusty in here right now... (http://www.theplayerstribune.com/starlin-castro-cubs-yankees/)
Damn. Who ever ghost-wrote that for Starlin did a pretty nifty job.
Quote from: PANK! on January 06, 2016, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 06, 2016, 11:25:05 AM
It's a little dusty in here right now... (http://www.theplayerstribune.com/starlin-castro-cubs-yankees/)
Damn. Who ever ghost-wrote that for Starlin did a pretty nifty job.
Barry Rozner?
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 06, 2016, 11:33:23 AM
Quote from: PANK! on January 06, 2016, 11:27:40 AM
Quote from: Canadouche on January 06, 2016, 11:25:05 AM
It's a little dusty in here right now... (http://www.theplayerstribune.com/starlin-castro-cubs-yankees/)
Damn. Who ever ghost-wrote that for Starlin did a pretty nifty job.
Barry Rozner?
He wrote that when he first came to the Cubs he was a kid. What is he now? 24? That isn't even old for a baseball player.
Quote from: Canadouche on January 06, 2016, 11:25:05 AM
It's a little dusty in here right now... (http://www.theplayerstribune.com/starlin-castro-cubs-yankees/)
Fuck Dusty and A Sor.
.324/.360/.521
Quote from: Shooter on June 10, 2017, 09:30:10 PM
.324/.360/.521
Is this what this season is coming to, we're going to start lamenting the Starlin Castro trade now? No one seemed to miss him last year.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 11, 2017, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 10, 2017, 09:30:10 PM
.324/.360/.521
Is this what this season is coming to, we're going to start lamenting the Starlin Castro trade now? No one seemed to miss him last year.
Not lamenting. Just acknowledging that he's a pretty good hitter. And Chuck is still wrong.
Quote from: Shooter on June 12, 2017, 09:16:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 11, 2017, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 10, 2017, 09:30:10 PM
.324/.360/.521
Is this what this season is coming to, we're going to start lamenting the Starlin Castro trade now? No one seemed to miss him last year.
Not lamenting. Just acknowledging that he's a pretty good hitter. And Chuck is still wrong.
Yeah. I was hoping Starlin's replacement wouldn't beat women, either. Maybe it's something in the dirt between 2nd and 3rd?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on June 12, 2017, 10:00:50 AM
Quote from: Shooter on June 12, 2017, 09:16:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 11, 2017, 02:46:42 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 10, 2017, 09:30:10 PM
.324/.360/.521
Is this what this season is coming to, we're going to start lamenting the Starlin Castro trade now? No one seemed to miss him last year.
Not lamenting. Just acknowledging that he's a pretty good hitter. And Chuck is still wrong.
Yeah. I was hoping Starlin's replacement wouldn't beat women, either. Maybe it's something in the dirt between 2nd and 3rd?
Addison's issues aside, he's not Starlin's replacement, Zobrist is. That worked out OK as far as I'm concerned even if he sucks the rest of his contract.