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Title: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 18, 2010, 08:59:01 PM
We all love the Cubs, even if weekends like this one make us all consider jumping over to FDB2 simply to indulge in the "FIARA JIM HAENDRY!" madness. We all also hope that their young, legitimate hitting prospects (particularly ones that recently won Rookie of the Year) pan out. We all also hate PenFoe.

The simple fact is, after a mere 15 lackluster at-bats, PenFoe decided to cast aside any hope for Soto's 2010 season. Quoth- "SKO, I'm going to tell you something, and you may not want to hear it...Soto sucks." He then demanded that I present a "benchmark" OPS that I would demand of Soto by May 1st in order to consider him a success. I suggested that .775 (for a catcher, not bad) should be the benchmark, but in light of his recent hitting streak (which some of us foresaw), I'm going to say .800 is the bare minimum.

So here is my proposal: from here on out, for every day that young Soto has an OPS at or above .800, I suggest you all hurl that wonderful invective, "Fuck You Pen," here in this thread. I'll go first:

April 18th, 2010- .916 OPS

Fuck You Pen.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Bort on April 18, 2010, 09:16:47 PM
As much as I hate the Cubs, I will gladly turn on Penfoe if Soto continues to do well.

FYP.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Brownie on April 18, 2010, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 18, 2010, 08:59:01 PM
We all love the Cubs, even if weekends like this one make us all consider jumping over to FDB2 simply to indulge in the "FIARA JIM HAENDRY!" madness. We all also hope that their young, legitimate hitting prospects (particularly ones that recently won Rookie of the Year) pan out. We all also hate PenFoe.

The simple fact is, after a mere 15 lackluster at-bats, PenFoe decided to cast aside any hope for Soto's 2010 season. Quoth- "SKO, I'm going to tell you something, and you may not want to hear it...Soto sucks." He then demanded that I present a "benchmark" OPS that I would demand of Soto by May 1st in order to consider him a success. I suggested that .775 (for a catcher, not bad) should be the benchmark, but in light of his recent hitting streak (which some of us foresaw), I'm going to say .800 is the bare minimum.

So here is my proposal: from here on out, for every day that young Soto has an OPS at or above .800, I suggest you all hurl that wonderful invective, "Fuck You Pen," here in this thread. I'll go first:

April 18th, 2010- .916 OPS

Fuck You Pen.

So you're not going to propose that we feed on the carcasses of past Cubs catchers?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 18, 2010, 09:29:49 PM
Quote from: Brownie on April 18, 2010, 09:25:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 18, 2010, 08:59:01 PM
We all love the Cubs, even if weekends like this one make us all consider jumping over to FDB2 simply to indulge in the "FIARA JIM HAENDRY!" madness. We all also hope that their young, legitimate hitting prospects (particularly ones that recently won Rookie of the Year) pan out. We all also hate PenFoe.

The simple fact is, after a mere 15 lackluster at-bats, PenFoe decided to cast aside any hope for Soto's 2010 season. Quoth- "SKO, I'm going to tell you something, and you may not want to hear it...Soto sucks." He then demanded that I present a "benchmark" OPS that I would demand of Soto by May 1st in order to consider him a success. I suggested that .775 (for a catcher, not bad) should be the benchmark, but in light of his recent hitting streak (which some of us foresaw), I'm going to say .800 is the bare minimum.

So here is my proposal: from here on out, for every day that young Soto has an OPS at or above .800, I suggest you all hurl that wonderful invective, "Fuck You Pen," here in this thread. I'll go first:

April 18th, 2010- .916 OPS

Fuck You Pen.

So you're not going to propose that we feed on the carcasses of past Cubs catchers?

That was plan B.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on April 19, 2010, 07:19:24 AM
Fuck you, PenFoe.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 19, 2010, 08:48:51 AM
FYPF
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: RedBeard on April 19, 2010, 12:58:46 PM
I'm a big supporter of Soto, regardless, so no matter what happens to our fearless catcher, Fuck You PenFoe.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 21, 2010, 08:00:31 PM
2-2 with an RBI and a walk tonight. Fuck you, Penfoe.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Bort on April 21, 2010, 08:02:11 PM
Who am I to resist an FYP?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: R-V on April 21, 2010, 08:22:13 PM
Pen, get fucked in your dumb face.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 21, 2010, 08:55:21 PM
Currently sucking his way to a .538 OBP and a .979 OPS.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 21, 2010, 08:57:49 PM
Get fucked, Pen. (http://britishmusclebear.com/)
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Slaky on April 21, 2010, 09:27:28 PM
His on-base is well over .500. Geo ain't the problem.

Suck on that-a one time, Pen.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenFoe on April 22, 2010, 01:21:22 AM
Quote from: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 21, 2010, 08:57:49 PM
Get fucked, Pen. (http://britishmusclebear.com/)

Sigh.
You know I clicked on it.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 24, 2010, 08:45:18 PM
2-4 with an RBI single. .351 BA , .979 OPS. Fuck you, PenFoe.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 24, 2010, 09:06:53 PM
Get fucked, Arizona.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on April 24, 2010, 09:50:37 PM
Fuck Pen
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 25, 2010, 02:12:28 PM
Fuck your own face, Pen.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 25, 2010, 02:13:03 PM
Bumped for a Soto homer. You're a sad excuse for a man, Pen. Fuck you.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on April 25, 2010, 02:14:59 PM
Go twiddle your man-clit, Pen.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Slaky on April 25, 2010, 02:22:17 PM
Suck a shaved bag you purse-wearing Don Glover.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 25, 2010, 02:43:24 PM
.385 BA, .547 OBP, 1.111 OPS. Nothing to see here, folks. Just a PenFoe getting fucked.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on April 25, 2010, 02:56:03 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 25, 2010, 02:43:24 PM
.385 BA, .547 OBP, 1.111 OPS. Nothing to see here, folks. Just a PenFoe getting fucked.

If he keeps this up, Pen's colon will look like Mitch Green by the All-Star Break.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Bort on April 25, 2010, 05:49:59 PM
I would like to kindly invite PenFoe to consume a throbbing bag of sweaty dicks as he continues to gloryhole for Soto.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: CubFaninHydePark on April 25, 2010, 05:55:02 PM
FYP
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on April 26, 2010, 07:38:46 AM
Gobble a cock with your butt, Pen.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 26, 2010, 09:59:11 AM

Dong is immigrating to Pen's ass.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Eli on April 26, 2010, 10:10:46 AM
Geovany Soto is hitting very well this season.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 26, 2010, 10:10:46 AM
Geovany Soto is hitting very well this season.

I'm particularly enjoying his patience at the plate.  He looks like he has a plan up there this year, unlike last year.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 26, 2010, 10:10:46 AM
Geovany Soto is hitting very well this season.

I'm particularly enjoying his patience at the plate.  He looks like he has a plan up there this year, unlike last year.

In his defense, his walk % improved slightly last year, and he had managed to work his way up to an .800 OPS when he went down with his second injury right before the All Star break. After that he couldn't hit his way out of a wet paper bag.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 26, 2010, 10:10:46 AM
Geovany Soto is hitting very well this season.

I'm particularly enjoying his patience at the plate.  He looks like he has a plan up there this year, unlike last year.

In his defense, his walk % improved slightly last year, and he had managed to work his way up to an .800 OPS when he went down with his second injury right before the All Star break. After that he couldn't hit his way out of a wet paper bag.

Why are you defending him to me?  I said I enjoy him.  Defend him to PenFoeces.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:55:50 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 26, 2010, 10:10:46 AM
Geovany Soto is hitting very well this season.

I'm particularly enjoying his patience at the plate.  He looks like he has a plan up there this year, unlike last year.

In his defense, his walk % improved slightly last year, and he had managed to work his way up to an .800 OPS when he went down with his second injury right before the All Star break. After that he couldn't hit his way out of a wet paper bag.

Why are you defending him to me?  I said I enjoy him.  Defend him to PenFoeces.

I just blindly defend man-crushes of mine. To no one in particular, usually.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:55:50 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 26, 2010, 10:10:46 AM
Geovany Soto is hitting very well this season.

I'm particularly enjoying his patience at the plate.  He looks like he has a plan up there this year, unlike last year.

In his defense, his walk % improved slightly last year, and he had managed to work his way up to an .800 OPS when he went down with his second injury right before the All Star break. After that he couldn't hit his way out of a wet paper bag.

Why are you defending him to me?  I said I enjoy him.  Defend him to PenFoeces.

I just blindly defend man-crushes of mine. To no one in particular, usually.

In my defense, I just wanted to use "PenFoeces."
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on April 26, 2010, 02:06:07 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:55:50 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 26, 2010, 10:10:46 AM
Geovany Soto is hitting very well this season.

I'm particularly enjoying his patience at the plate.  He looks like he has a plan up there this year, unlike last year.

In his defense, his walk % improved slightly last year, and he had managed to work his way up to an .800 OPS when he went down with his second injury right before the All Star break. After that he couldn't hit his way out of a wet paper bag.

Why are you defending him to me?  I said I enjoy him.  Defend him to PenFoeces.

I just blindly defend man-crushes of mine. To no one in particular, usually.

In my defense, I just wanted to use "PenFoeces."

I approve.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Gilgamesh on April 26, 2010, 02:15:23 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 02:04:06 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:55:50 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:50:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 26, 2010, 01:21:57 PM
Quote from: Kermit IV on April 26, 2010, 01:14:21 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 26, 2010, 10:10:46 AM
Geovany Soto is hitting very well this season.

I'm particularly enjoying his patience at the plate.  He looks like he has a plan up there this year, unlike last year.

In his defense, his walk % improved slightly last year, and he had managed to work his way up to an .800 OPS when he went down with his second injury right before the All Star break. After that he couldn't hit his way out of a wet paper bag.

Why are you defending him to me?  I said I enjoy him.  Defend him to PenFoeces.

I just blindly defend man-crushes of mine. To no one in particular, usually.

In my defense, I just wanted to use "PenFoeces."

Just keep it out of my toilet.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 27, 2010, 07:54:29 AM

Welcome to Fuck You Pen-sylvania.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 27, 2010, 08:04:06 AM
I can blame PenFoe for Lou taking the bat out of Soto's hands last night, right?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on April 27, 2010, 08:07:18 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 27, 2010, 08:04:06 AM
I can blame PenFoe for Lou taking the bat out of Soto's hands last night, right?

I wanted to kill Pen at that moment.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on April 27, 2010, 08:07:33 AM
Quote from: Tinker to Evers to Chance on April 27, 2010, 08:04:06 AM
I can blame PenFoe for Lou taking the bat out of Soto's hands last night, right?

In this thread, we blame PenisFoe for everything.  Duh.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Bort on April 27, 2010, 09:28:01 AM
Pre-emptive fuck you to PenFoe.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Quality Start Machine on April 29, 2010, 10:47:13 AM

Hey Pen...

Sit on a sharp stick.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on April 30, 2010, 03:58:49 PM
FYPF?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on April 30, 2010, 03:59:07 PM
FYPF!!!!

(This is fun!)
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on May 04, 2010, 07:31:27 PM
Fuck you, Pen.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Bort on May 04, 2010, 07:32:00 PM
Quote from: SKO on May 04, 2010, 07:31:27 PM
Fuck you, Pen.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Slaky on May 04, 2010, 07:36:14 PM
Suck a thick, veined one, Pen.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Quality Start Machine on May 05, 2010, 07:28:12 AM

Eat a dick that's infested with open sores, Pen.

Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Eli on May 05, 2010, 07:33:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 05, 2010, 07:28:12 AM

Eat a dick that's infested with open sores, Pen.



Whoa.  Let's not go overboard here in this thread.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Bort on May 05, 2010, 08:41:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 05, 2010, 07:33:47 AM
Quote from: Fork on May 05, 2010, 07:28:12 AM

Eat a dick that's infested with open sores, Pen.



Whoa.  Let's not go overboard here in this thread.

Shit just got real, yo.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Dr. Nguyen Van Falk on May 07, 2010, 07:40:22 PM
FYPF.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Slaky on May 07, 2010, 09:24:54 PM
All the PenFucking aside, Soto is a beast.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Bort on May 07, 2010, 09:30:49 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 07, 2010, 09:24:54 PM
All the PenFucking aside, Soto is a beast.
Total beast.

But also, fuck you PenFoe.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on May 07, 2010, 10:57:40 PM
Seriously, fuck off PenFoe.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Gilgamesh on May 07, 2010, 10:59:09 PM
Quote from: PenPho on May 07, 2010, 10:57:40 PM
Seriously, fuck off PenFoe.

Shut up, Paul.  You're a douche.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on May 08, 2010, 06:09:52 PM
Quote from: PenPho on May 07, 2010, 10:57:40 PM
Seriously, fuck off PenFoe.

(http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/cleanplatecharlie/pho_vietnamese_soup.jpg)
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Slaky on May 08, 2010, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 08, 2010, 06:09:52 PM
Quote from: PenPho on May 07, 2010, 10:57:40 PM
Seriously, fuck off PenFoe.

(http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/cleanplatecharlie/pho_vietnamese_soup.jpg)


So good...
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on May 08, 2010, 07:29:45 PM
Quote from: Slaky on May 08, 2010, 06:25:17 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on May 08, 2010, 06:09:52 PM
Quote from: PenPho on May 07, 2010, 10:57:40 PM
Seriously, fuck off PenFoe.

(http://blogs.browardpalmbeach.com/cleanplatecharlie/pho_vietnamese_soup.jpg)


So good...
When I saw Pen's new handle I started jonesing for some. Normally it's a phone call or short walk away but I'm in Southern Indiana right now and will have to settle for some of the best frid chicken money can buy.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on May 08, 2010, 07:30:29 PM
fried
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on May 10, 2010, 07:51:58 AM
Facefuck your own butthole, Pen.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on June 09, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
Fuck off PenFoe
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on June 09, 2010, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 09, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
Fuck off PenFoe

Seriously? That's his first good game in over a month.

Ohh, PenFoe...sorry, thought you were talking to me.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2010, 02:17:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 18, 2010, 08:59:01 PM
So here is my proposal: from here on out, for every day that young Soto has an OPS at or above .800, I suggest you all hurl that wonderful invective, "Fuck You Pen," here in this thread.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sotoge01.shtml

.262/.404/.415/.819

Quote from: Yeti on June 09, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
Fuck off PenFoe
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on June 10, 2010, 07:46:31 AM
Quote from: PenPho on June 09, 2010, 10:56:39 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 09, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
Fuck off PenFoe

Seriously? That's his first good game in over a month.

Ohh, PenFoe...sorry, thought you were talking to me.

Oh get fucked you dumb fucking fuck. Even Chuck knows not to wonder Why he's getting FYC'd after a 2 HR homer game. Moran.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on June 10, 2010, 08:23:24 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on June 10, 2010, 02:17:03 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 18, 2010, 08:59:01 PM
So here is my proposal: from here on out, for every day that young Soto has an OPS at or above .800, I suggest you all hurl that wonderful invective, "Fuck You Pen," here in this thread.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sotoge01.shtml

.262/.404/.415/.819.269/.406/.463/.869/124


Update'd.

Quote from: Yeti on June 09, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
Fuck off PenFoe
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on June 10, 2010, 09:40:56 AM
Quote from: SKO on June 10, 2010, 07:46:31 AM
Oh get fucked you dumb fucking fuck. Even Chuck knows not to wonder Why he's getting FYC'd after a 2 HR homer game. Moran.

If I were getting FYC'd more often, maybe this team would be, you know, good.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 12:37:07 PM
This is kind of the default Fuck You PenPho thread so in doing some reading of old threads....

Nice (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6969.msg203541#msg203541)

QuoteAs I said in the SBox (SORRY BH!!) I don't want any of you fuckers trying to hop on the Nady bandwagon come May when shit gets real.

The world can't go on without validation that PenPho is a wrong bastard
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: BH on June 14, 2010, 12:52:52 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 12:37:07 PM
This is kind of the default Fuck You PenPho thread so in doing some reading of old threads....

Nice (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6969.msg203541#msg203541)

QuoteAs I said in the SBox (SORRY BH!!) I don't want any of you fuckers trying to hop on the Nady bandwagon come May when shit gets real.

The world can't go on without validation that PenPho is a wrong bastard


And shit just got real.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on June 14, 2010, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 12:37:07 PM
This is kind of the default Fuck You PenPho thread so in doing some reading of old threads....

Nice (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6969.msg203541#msg203541)

QuoteAs I said in the SBox (SORRY BH!!) I don't want any of you fuckers trying to hop on the Nady bandwagon come May when shit gets real.

The world can't go on without validation that PenPho is a wrong bastard


Dude, that's crap...I already copped to that. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7056.msg214553#msg214553)
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 14, 2010, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 12:37:07 PM
This is kind of the default Fuck You PenPho thread so in doing some reading of old threads....

Nice (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6969.msg203541#msg203541)

QuoteAs I said in the SBox (SORRY BH!!) I don't want any of you fuckers trying to hop on the Nady bandwagon come May when shit gets real.

The world can't go on without validation that PenPho is a wrong bastard


Dude, that's crap...I already copped to that. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7056.msg214553#msg214553)

Fuck.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Shooter on June 15, 2010, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 14, 2010, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 12:37:07 PM
This is kind of the default Fuck You PenPho thread so in doing some reading of old threads....

Nice (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6969.msg203541#msg203541)

QuoteAs I said in the SBox (SORRY BH!!) I don't want any of you fuckers trying to hop on the Nady bandwagon come May when shit gets real.

The world can't go on without validation that PenPho is a wrong bastard


Dude, that's crap...I already copped to that. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7056.msg214553#msg214553)

Fuck.

Another modest proposal: less Koyie Dolan Hill. A lot less.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Slaky on June 15, 2010, 09:28:42 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 15, 2010, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 14, 2010, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 12:37:07 PM
This is kind of the default Fuck You PenPho thread so in doing some reading of old threads....

Nice (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6969.msg203541#msg203541)

QuoteAs I said in the SBox (SORRY BH!!) I don't want any of you fuckers trying to hop on the Nady bandwagon come May when shit gets real.

The world can't go on without validation that PenPho is a wrong bastard


Dude, that's crap...I already copped to that. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7056.msg214553#msg214553)

Fuck.

Another modest proposal: less Koyie Dolan Hill. A lot less.

I don't get it. Why he plays so much, I mean. Maybe Geo's a total shit to deal with and Lou's just fucking with him.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: fiveouts on June 15, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
Playing three fingers over Soto might win this year's honorary "I'm Dusty Baker, I dare you to fire me" award (otherwise known as "Lenny Harris bats leadoff").



This team is completely fucked.   
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Quality Start Machine on June 16, 2010, 09:23:29 AM
Quote from: Slaky on June 15, 2010, 09:28:42 PM
Quote from: Shooter on June 15, 2010, 09:16:21 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 14, 2010, 01:26:36 PM
Quote from: Yeti on June 14, 2010, 12:37:07 PM
This is kind of the default Fuck You PenPho thread so in doing some reading of old threads....

Nice (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=6969.msg203541#msg203541)

QuoteAs I said in the SBox (SORRY BH!!) I don't want any of you fuckers trying to hop on the Nady bandwagon come May when shit gets real.

The world can't go on without validation that PenPho is a wrong bastard


Dude, that's crap...I already copped to that. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7056.msg214553#msg214553)

Fuck.

Another modest proposal: less Koyie Dolan Hill. A lot less.

I don't get it. Why he plays so much, I mean. Maybe Geo's a total shit to deal with and Lou's just fucking with him.

Maybe Geo bogarts.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on June 17, 2010, 12:00:53 PM
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/piniella-loses-his-marbles/

QuoteSoto is one of the best hitting catchers in the game
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on June 17, 2010, 12:15:14 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on June 15, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
Playing three fingers over Soto might win this year's honorary "I'm Dusty Baker, I dare you to fire me" award (otherwise known as "Lenny Harris bats leadoff").



This team is completely fucked.   

Why hasn't he been fired already?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: MAD on June 17, 2010, 12:20:03 PM
Quote from: Powdered Toast Man on June 17, 2010, 12:15:14 PM
Quote from: fiveouts on June 15, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
Playing three fingers over Soto might win this year's honorary "I'm Dusty Baker, I dare you to fire me" award (otherwise known as "Lenny Harris bats leadoff").



This team is completely fucked.   

Why hasn't he been fired already?

Because he's likeable.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on June 17, 2010, 12:35:54 PM
Not to defend Lou completely because I'm tired of him myself. But it could be that Soto has some catching-related injury that requires him to take some games off while swelling or soreness subsides. This kind of thing happens because catchers actually get hit by fast baseballs alot. In the hands, feet and dick. This is the type injury you don't want to publicize because it could give an opposing battery a better idea of how to get a guy out. One doesn't need that. And it's the kind of thing that you're not entitled to know because you're a piece of shit.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Eli on June 17, 2010, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 17, 2010, 12:35:54 PM
Not to defend Lou completely because I'm tired of him myself. But it could be that Soto has some catching-related injury that requires him to take some games off while swelling or soreness subsides. This kind of thing happens because catchers actually get hit by fast baseballs alot. In the hands, feet and dick. This is the type injury you don't want to publicize because it could give an opposing battery a better idea of how to get a guy out. One doesn't need that. And it's the kind of thing that you're not entitled to know because you're a piece of shit.

While we're speculating, Soto might have AIDS.  That'd really affect his day-to-day energy levels, so Lou would be right in benching him occasionally.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on June 17, 2010, 01:52:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on June 17, 2010, 01:44:48 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 17, 2010, 12:35:54 PM
Not to defend Lou completely because I'm tired of him myself. But it could be that Soto has some catching-related injury that requires him to take some games off while swelling or soreness subsides. This kind of thing happens because catchers actually get hit by fast baseballs alot. In the hands, feet and dick. This is the type injury you don't want to publicize because it could give an opposing battery a better idea of how to get a guy out. One doesn't need that. And it's the kind of thing that you're not entitled to know because you're a piece of shit.

While we're speculating, Soto might have AIDS.  That'd really affect his day-to-day energy levels, so Lou would be right in benching him occasionally.

That would explain the weight loss.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on July 19, 2010, 10:57:10 PM
It's slightly, maybe, a tad bit conceivable, that I may have been just a bit miscalculated on this.
 
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Saul Goodman on July 20, 2010, 12:11:57 AM
Quote from: PenPho on July 19, 2010, 10:57:10 PM
It's slightly, maybe, a tad bit conceivable, that I may have been just a bit miscalculated on this.
 

Thanks for the reminder.

7/20/10 -- .286/.407/.498/.905

FYPPH!
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 09, 2010, 09:43:36 PM
.288/.401/.519/.920 137 OPS+ over 317 PA bump.

Get fucked, Scottsdale.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on August 09, 2010, 11:40:15 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 09, 2010, 09:43:36 PM
.288/.401/.519/.920 137 OPS+ over 317 PA bump.

Get fucked, Scottsdale.

Today you bump it?

After he was scratched from a start and hasn't played in 5 days?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on August 10, 2010, 12:09:09 AM
Quote from: PenPho on August 09, 2010, 11:40:15 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 09, 2010, 09:43:36 PM
.288/.401/.519/.920 137 OPS+ over 317 PA bump.

Get fucked, Scottsdale.

Today you bump it?

After he was scratched from a start and hasn't played in 5 days?

You hate him for being a pussy now?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Saul Goodman on August 10, 2010, 06:42:27 AM
Quote from: PenPho on August 09, 2010, 11:40:15 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 09, 2010, 09:43:36 PM
.288/.401/.519/.920 137 OPS+ over 317 PA bump.

Get fucked, Scottsdale.

Today you bump it?

After he was scratched from a start and hasn't played in 5 days?

Knowing that would require paying attention to the Cubs.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on August 10, 2010, 08:46:07 AM
Quote from: Night Man on August 10, 2010, 06:42:27 AM
Quote from: PenPho on August 09, 2010, 11:40:15 PM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on August 09, 2010, 09:43:36 PM
.288/.401/.519/.920 137 OPS+ over 317 PA bump.

Get fucked, Scottsdale.

Today you bump it?

After he was scratched from a start and hasn't played in 5 days?

Knowing that would require paying attention to the Cubs.

Pen is a Cubs fan?

Now I really hate that douchebag.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Powdered Toast Man on August 10, 2010, 10:33:04 AM
Soto on the DL, Lee on the bereavement list.  Something named Welliington Castillo called up as well as MIKAH HOFFPOWER!  How many games will the Cubs win in a row?  I don't feel like looking for a link, but I read it on Rotoworld and I'm pretty sure it's LRZP by now.  I'm sure there's a joke about BH in there somewhere.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Quality Start Machine on August 10, 2010, 10:43:07 AM

So the Cubs got whiter? It's gonna hai.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 03:14:26 PM
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/sotos-remarkable-season/

Quote

The best offensive catcher in baseball this season with at least 200 plate appearances has been Geovany Soto, and it's nor particularly close. Soto has a .284/.399/.521 line with the Cubs this season – impressive for any player, but much more so at the catcher position. That line is good for a .395 wOBA, 15 points above Brian McCann,13 points better than the injury shortened season of Carlos Santana, and 20 points above Joe Mauer.

Soto has particularly excelled at taking walks and hitting for power. His 16.4% BB rate trails only Jim Thome and Jack Cust among players with 200 plate appearances, and his .236 ISO is in the top 30. His BABIP this year is a solid .320, 11 points above his career mark and 22 above the league average. The only area in which he hasn't been great is in making contact, as he has struck out in 24.6% of at bats, about five percentage points more than average. That is slightly exaggerated, though, as his high amount of walks lowers his AB total – his K% in terms of plate appearances sits at 20.4%, three points above the league average.

Soto's performances is worthy of praise and over the course of a full season, those could be MVP quality numbers. However, Soto has only appeared in 97 games this season, compiling 353 plate appearances and 3.4 WAR. Part of that has been injuries – recently, Soto has suffered a knee injury, and he had a DL stint in early August. However, a bigger part of that is simply former Cubs manager Lou Piniella's reliance on backup Koyie Hill and reluctance to hit Soto high in the lineup.

Unless they're Jason Kendall, most catchers can't play every day, and as Jason Kendall shows, they probably shouldn't. However, sometimes, a players skills necessitate that he is in the lineup more often than others. Geovany Soto, despite his poor 2009, was still projected to post a wOBA in the .350s, an excellent mark for a catcher. His backup, Koyie Hill, is not good. Hill has a .254 career wOBA and was projected for a slightly more serviceable .290 mark. However, Hill has forgotten how to take a walk (3.8%) and as such, his wOBA is all the way down to .236. Despite the fact that Soto is clearly the superior player and didn't miss any injury time until late July, Hill already has appeared in 65 games and compiled 186 plate appearances of -0.7 WAR baseball. This is inexplicable – Soto may have needed rest, but there should be limits to the amount of time a star-level player as Soto spends on the bench.

Even when Soto is in the lineup, he doesn't get his full dosage of plate appearances. Soto has seen the cleanup slot twice, the fifth slot eight times, and the sixth slot twice. The other 78 times that Soto has started the game have seen him in the seventh or eighth slots. Soto's profile suggests that he should be hitting 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Given that each slot sees about .11 more PAs per game than the one below it, Soto has missed out on anywhere between 30 and 50 plate appearances thanks to this relegation to the bottom of the lineup. With similar performance to his season to date in those PAs, that could be another half-win added to Soto's line.

Geovany Soto has been incredibly productive for the Chicago Cubs this season, and if it weren't for a number of factors keeping him out of the lineup, he could be having an MVP quality season. It's hard to blame his injuries on Cubs management, but there is no excuse for Soto remaining in the 7th or 8th slot in the batting order or seeing Koyie Hill constantly spot starting.

Suck it, PenFoe. Best catcher of your lifetime (maybe, I think, er, eh, yeah, fuck it.) BEST. CATCHER. EVAR.

Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 03:14:26 PM
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/sotos-remarkable-season/

Quote

The best offensive catcher in baseball this season with at least 200 plate appearances has been Geovany Soto, and it's nor particularly close. Soto has a .284/.399/.521 line with the Cubs this season – impressive for any player, but much more so at the catcher position. That line is good for a .395 wOBA, 15 points above Brian McCann,13 points better than the injury shortened season of Carlos Santana, and 20 points above Joe Mauer.

Soto has particularly excelled at taking walks and hitting for power. His 16.4% BB rate trails only Jim Thome and Jack Cust among players with 200 plate appearances, and his .236 ISO is in the top 30. His BABIP this year is a solid .320, 11 points above his career mark and 22 above the league average. The only area in which he hasn't been great is in making contact, as he has struck out in 24.6% of at bats, about five percentage points more than average. That is slightly exaggerated, though, as his high amount of walks lowers his AB total – his K% in terms of plate appearances sits at 20.4%, three points above the league average.

Soto's performances is worthy of praise and over the course of a full season, those could be MVP quality numbers. However, Soto has only appeared in 97 games this season, compiling 353 plate appearances and 3.4 WAR. Part of that has been injuries – recently, Soto has suffered a knee injury, and he had a DL stint in early August. However, a bigger part of that is simply former Cubs manager Lou Piniella's reliance on backup Koyie Hill and reluctance to hit Soto high in the lineup.

Unless they're Jason Kendall, most catchers can't play every day, and as Jason Kendall shows, they probably shouldn't. However, sometimes, a players skills necessitate that he is in the lineup more often than others. Geovany Soto, despite his poor 2009, was still projected to post a wOBA in the .350s, an excellent mark for a catcher. His backup, Koyie Hill, is not good. Hill has a .254 career wOBA and was projected for a slightly more serviceable .290 mark. However, Hill has forgotten how to take a walk (3.8%) and as such, his wOBA is all the way down to .236. Despite the fact that Soto is clearly the superior player and didn't miss any injury time until late July, Hill already has appeared in 65 games and compiled 186 plate appearances of -0.7 WAR baseball. This is inexplicable – Soto may have needed rest, but there should be limits to the amount of time a star-level player as Soto spends on the bench.

Even when Soto is in the lineup, he doesn't get his full dosage of plate appearances. Soto has seen the cleanup slot twice, the fifth slot eight times, and the sixth slot twice. The other 78 times that Soto has started the game have seen him in the seventh or eighth slots. Soto's profile suggests that he should be hitting 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Given that each slot sees about .11 more PAs per game than the one below it, Soto has missed out on anywhere between 30 and 50 plate appearances thanks to this relegation to the bottom of the lineup. With similar performance to his season to date in those PAs, that could be another half-win added to Soto's line.

Geovany Soto has been incredibly productive for the Chicago Cubs this season, and if it weren't for a number of factors keeping him out of the lineup, he could be having an MVP quality season. It's hard to blame his injuries on Cubs management, but there is no excuse for Soto remaining in the 7th or 8th slot in the batting order or seeing Koyie Hill constantly spot starting.

Suck it, PenFoe. Best catcher of your lifetime (maybe, I think, er, eh, yeah, fuck it.) BEST. CATCHER. EVAR.



Were Ivan Rodriguez, Carlton Fisk and Mike Piazza figments of my imagination?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 03:14:26 PM
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/sotos-remarkable-season/

Quote

The best offensive catcher in baseball this season with at least 200 plate appearances has been Geovany Soto, and it's nor particularly close. Soto has a .284/.399/.521 line with the Cubs this season – impressive for any player, but much more so at the catcher position. That line is good for a .395 wOBA, 15 points above Brian McCann,13 points better than the injury shortened season of Carlos Santana, and 20 points above Joe Mauer.

Soto has particularly excelled at taking walks and hitting for power. His 16.4% BB rate trails only Jim Thome and Jack Cust among players with 200 plate appearances, and his .236 ISO is in the top 30. His BABIP this year is a solid .320, 11 points above his career mark and 22 above the league average. The only area in which he hasn't been great is in making contact, as he has struck out in 24.6% of at bats, about five percentage points more than average. That is slightly exaggerated, though, as his high amount of walks lowers his AB total – his K% in terms of plate appearances sits at 20.4%, three points above the league average.

Soto's performances is worthy of praise and over the course of a full season, those could be MVP quality numbers. However, Soto has only appeared in 97 games this season, compiling 353 plate appearances and 3.4 WAR. Part of that has been injuries – recently, Soto has suffered a knee injury, and he had a DL stint in early August. However, a bigger part of that is simply former Cubs manager Lou Piniella's reliance on backup Koyie Hill and reluctance to hit Soto high in the lineup.

Unless they're Jason Kendall, most catchers can't play every day, and as Jason Kendall shows, they probably shouldn't. However, sometimes, a players skills necessitate that he is in the lineup more often than others. Geovany Soto, despite his poor 2009, was still projected to post a wOBA in the .350s, an excellent mark for a catcher. His backup, Koyie Hill, is not good. Hill has a .254 career wOBA and was projected for a slightly more serviceable .290 mark. However, Hill has forgotten how to take a walk (3.8%) and as such, his wOBA is all the way down to .236. Despite the fact that Soto is clearly the superior player and didn't miss any injury time until late July, Hill already has appeared in 65 games and compiled 186 plate appearances of -0.7 WAR baseball. This is inexplicable – Soto may have needed rest, but there should be limits to the amount of time a star-level player as Soto spends on the bench.

Even when Soto is in the lineup, he doesn't get his full dosage of plate appearances. Soto has seen the cleanup slot twice, the fifth slot eight times, and the sixth slot twice. The other 78 times that Soto has started the game have seen him in the seventh or eighth slots. Soto's profile suggests that he should be hitting 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Given that each slot sees about .11 more PAs per game than the one below it, Soto has missed out on anywhere between 30 and 50 plate appearances thanks to this relegation to the bottom of the lineup. With similar performance to his season to date in those PAs, that could be another half-win added to Soto's line.

Geovany Soto has been incredibly productive for the Chicago Cubs this season, and if it weren't for a number of factors keeping him out of the lineup, he could be having an MVP quality season. It's hard to blame his injuries on Cubs management, but there is no excuse for Soto remaining in the 7th or 8th slot in the batting order or seeing Koyie Hill constantly spot starting.

Suck it, PenFoe. Best catcher of your lifetime (maybe, I think, er, eh, yeah, fuck it.) BEST. CATCHER. EVAR.



Were Ivan Rodriguez, Carlton Fisk and Mike Piazza figments of my imagination?

I was actually meaning Cubs catchers My bad. You should have known what I meant
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: SKO on September 13, 2010, 03:48:00 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 03:30:42 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 03:14:26 PM
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/sotos-remarkable-season/

Quote

The best offensive catcher in baseball this season with at least 200 plate appearances has been Geovany Soto, and it's nor particularly close. Soto has a .284/.399/.521 line with the Cubs this season – impressive for any player, but much more so at the catcher position. That line is good for a .395 wOBA, 15 points above Brian McCann,13 points better than the injury shortened season of Carlos Santana, and 20 points above Joe Mauer.

Soto has particularly excelled at taking walks and hitting for power. His 16.4% BB rate trails only Jim Thome and Jack Cust among players with 200 plate appearances, and his .236 ISO is in the top 30. His BABIP this year is a solid .320, 11 points above his career mark and 22 above the league average. The only area in which he hasn't been great is in making contact, as he has struck out in 24.6% of at bats, about five percentage points more than average. That is slightly exaggerated, though, as his high amount of walks lowers his AB total – his K% in terms of plate appearances sits at 20.4%, three points above the league average.

Soto's performances is worthy of praise and over the course of a full season, those could be MVP quality numbers. However, Soto has only appeared in 97 games this season, compiling 353 plate appearances and 3.4 WAR. Part of that has been injuries – recently, Soto has suffered a knee injury, and he had a DL stint in early August. However, a bigger part of that is simply former Cubs manager Lou Piniella's reliance on backup Koyie Hill and reluctance to hit Soto high in the lineup.

Unless they're Jason Kendall, most catchers can't play every day, and as Jason Kendall shows, they probably shouldn't. However, sometimes, a players skills necessitate that he is in the lineup more often than others. Geovany Soto, despite his poor 2009, was still projected to post a wOBA in the .350s, an excellent mark for a catcher. His backup, Koyie Hill, is not good. Hill has a .254 career wOBA and was projected for a slightly more serviceable .290 mark. However, Hill has forgotten how to take a walk (3.8%) and as such, his wOBA is all the way down to .236. Despite the fact that Soto is clearly the superior player and didn't miss any injury time until late July, Hill already has appeared in 65 games and compiled 186 plate appearances of -0.7 WAR baseball. This is inexplicable – Soto may have needed rest, but there should be limits to the amount of time a star-level player as Soto spends on the bench.

Even when Soto is in the lineup, he doesn't get his full dosage of plate appearances. Soto has seen the cleanup slot twice, the fifth slot eight times, and the sixth slot twice. The other 78 times that Soto has started the game have seen him in the seventh or eighth slots. Soto's profile suggests that he should be hitting 2nd, 3rd, or 4th. Given that each slot sees about .11 more PAs per game than the one below it, Soto has missed out on anywhere between 30 and 50 plate appearances thanks to this relegation to the bottom of the lineup. With similar performance to his season to date in those PAs, that could be another half-win added to Soto's line.

Geovany Soto has been incredibly productive for the Chicago Cubs this season, and if it weren't for a number of factors keeping him out of the lineup, he could be having an MVP quality season. It's hard to blame his injuries on Cubs management, but there is no excuse for Soto remaining in the 7th or 8th slot in the batting order or seeing Koyie Hill constantly spot starting.

Suck it, PenFoe. Best catcher of your lifetime (maybe, I think, er, eh, yeah, fuck it.) BEST. CATCHER. EVAR.



Were Ivan Rodriguez, Carlton Fisk and Mike Piazza figments of my imagination?

I give you Pudge and Fisk, and I know Mike Piazza could hit, but I still maintain that you'd actually have to play catcher to be a great catcher. Piazza just crouched for 9 innings.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
Also...this. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7316.msg220322#msg220322)
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Bort on September 13, 2010, 03:55:58 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
Also...this. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7316.msg220322#msg220322)

Too late, hotplate.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
Also...this. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7316.msg220322#msg220322)

(http://imgur.com/Nwoqm.png)
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
Also...this. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7316.msg220322#msg220322)

(http://imgur.com/Nwoqm.png)

This isn't a waffle, it's a flip-flop.
Big difference.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Saul Goodman on September 13, 2010, 06:12:05 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 04:07:53 PM
Quote from: PenPho on September 13, 2010, 03:54:07 PM
Also...this. (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7316.msg220322#msg220322)

(http://imgur.com/Nwoqm.png)

This isn't a waffle, it's a flip-flop.
Big difference.

Wait a minute.  You had to Google "facebook login"?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on September 13, 2010, 06:25:12 PM
Quote from: Night Man on September 13, 2010, 06:12:05 PM
Wait a minute.  You had to Google "facebook login"?

It's actually ChuckD's screencap from back here (http://www.desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?topic=7219.msg205506#msg205506). (ChuckD's epic lulz and Yeti's point in reposting it above are both explained, for those familiar with Greasemonkey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greasemonkey), by this userscript (http://www.handjobexchange.com/userblock.user.js).)

The Google query in question was related to this (http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/how_google_failed_internet_meme.php).
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on September 13, 2010, 07:26:09 PM
I suppose I could have utilized Greasemonkey here and done my own screencap but reposting ChuckD's masterpiece sufficed for me.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on June 30, 2011, 05:32:35 PM
.220/.320/.403 Bump for Apex.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on June 30, 2011, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 30, 2011, 05:32:35 PM
.220/.320/.403 Bump for Apex.

That average is creeping up. Koyie Hill better watch his back.

But really though, he's starting to flex his penis around the yard a little bit and I like it.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on June 30, 2011, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: Internet Apex on June 30, 2011, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on June 30, 2011, 05:32:35 PM
.220/.320/.403 Bump for Apex.

That average is creeping up. Koyie Hill better watch his back.

But really though, he's starting to flex his penis around the yard a little bit and I like it.

.221/.310/.442 in last 28
.219/.375/.500 in last 14
.263/.417/.684 in last 7

A pretty healthy 7-day erection.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on July 12, 2011, 03:30:29 PM
DPD. (http://www.desipio.com/?p=3620)

Quote from: Andy Dolan
I just have this nagging feeling that the reason Soto has good years and bad ones is that he's not really all that good.  The good years could well be the flukes, not the bad ones.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on July 12, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 12, 2011, 03:30:29 PM
DPD. (http://www.desipio.com/?p=3620)

Quote from: Andy Dolan
I just have this nagging feeling that the reason Soto has good years and bad ones is that he's not really all that good.  The good years could well be the flukes, not the bad ones.

Took you long enough
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 12, 2011, 04:26:09 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on July 12, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 12, 2011, 03:30:29 PM
DPD. (http://www.desipio.com/?p=3620)

Quote from: Andy Dolan
I just have this nagging feeling that the reason Soto has good years and bad ones is that he’s not really all that good.  The good years could well be the flukes, not the bad ones.

Took you long enough

Seriously--this is more DRLP than DPD.  I know Andy does the least possible work imagineable in promoting new content here (The NewsBox is still Opening Day's Gamecast) but that post  is over 10 days old.  Geez!
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: CT III on July 12, 2011, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 12, 2011, 04:26:09 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on July 12, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 12, 2011, 03:30:29 PM
DPD. (http://www.desipio.com/?p=3620)

Quote from: Andy Dolan
I just have this nagging feeling that the reason Soto has good years and bad ones is that he's not really all that good.  The good years could well be the flukes, not the bad ones.

Took you long enough

Seriously--this is more DRLP than DPD.  I know Andy does the least possible work imagineable in promoting new content here (The NewsBox is still Opening Day's Gamecast) but that post  is over 10 days old.  Geez!

Andy?  You mean that dude who used to write for SB Nation Chicago?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on July 12, 2011, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: CT III on July 12, 2011, 04:27:29 PM
Quote from: PANK! on July 12, 2011, 04:26:09 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on July 12, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 12, 2011, 03:30:29 PM
DPD. (http://www.desipio.com/?p=3620)

Quote from: Andy Dolan
I just have this nagging feeling that the reason Soto has good years and bad ones is that he's not really all that good.  The good years could well be the flukes, not the bad ones.

Took you long enough

Seriously--this is more DRLP than DPD.  I know Andy does the least possible work imagineable in promoting new content here (The NewsBox is still Opening Day's Gamecast) but that post  is over 10 days old.  Geez!

Andy?  You mean that dude who used to write for SB Nation Chicago?

Fading.  Internet.  Star.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on July 12, 2011, 05:07:22 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on July 12, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 12, 2011, 03:30:29 PM
DPD. (http://www.desipio.com/?p=3620)

Quote from: Andy Dolan
I just have this nagging feeling that the reason Soto has good years and bad ones is that he's not really all that good.  The good years could well be the flukes, not the bad ones.

Took you long enough

I have two children under the age of 3!
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Yeti on July 12, 2011, 05:28:14 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 12, 2011, 05:07:22 PM
Quote from: Alrish Yeltin on July 12, 2011, 04:01:45 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 12, 2011, 03:30:29 PM
DPD. (http://www.desipio.com/?p=3620)

Quote from: Andy Dolan
I just have this nagging feeling that the reason Soto has good years and bad ones is that he's not really all that good.  The good years could well be the flukes, not the bad ones.

Took you long enough

I have two children under the age of 3!

Something something pedoyeti.

But anyway, you don't go to work? Because I think if one can shoutbox about Peter King's great writing as much as you do, then you might be able to have read one of the Monthly Dose articles within the last 10 days. That's just me though, I'm a simple hilljack
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: flannj on July 18, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
Blown rundowns piss off flannj.

FUCK.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on July 23, 2012, 04:39:56 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 18, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
Blown rundowns piss off flannj.

FUCK.

So, everyone agrees that Soto is bad now, right?

This isn't a thing anymore, is it?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Eli on July 23, 2012, 08:26:52 AM
Quote from: PenPho on July 23, 2012, 04:39:56 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 18, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
Blown rundowns piss off flannj.

FUCK.

So, everyone agrees that Soto is bad now, right?

This isn't a thing anymore, is it?

Yeah, he's bad now.

But you still spent several years being wrong.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on July 23, 2012, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 23, 2012, 08:26:52 AM
Quote from: PenPho on July 23, 2012, 04:39:56 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 18, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
Blown rundowns piss off flannj.

FUCK.

So, everyone agrees that Soto is bad now, right?

This isn't a thing anymore, is it?

Yeah, he's bad now.

But you still spent several years being wrong.

If by "several" you mean "one," then I agree.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Eli on July 23, 2012, 01:12:22 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 23, 2012, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: Eli on July 23, 2012, 08:26:52 AM
Quote from: PenPho on July 23, 2012, 04:39:56 AM
Quote from: flannj on July 18, 2012, 08:31:43 PM
Blown rundowns piss off flannj.

FUCK.

So, everyone agrees that Soto is bad now, right?

This isn't a thing anymore, is it?

Yeah, he's bad now.

But you still spent several years being wrong.

If by "several" you mean "one," then I agree.

I didn't. I meant "several."
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: CubFaninHydePark on July 30, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
I thought Clint Barmes was bad...

And then I saw Soto's yearly offensive line.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Wheezer on July 30, 2012, 09:00:37 PM
Where's the Keith-and-Judd-make-a-show-of-figuring-Johnson's-been-traded-midinning thread?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
/Victory
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Slaky on July 30, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
/Victory

What a win. Really glad it worked out for you and our catcher was awful for a long time.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
/Victory

What a win. Really glad it worked out for you and our catcher was awful for a long time.

I know, right?

Soto wasn't even on the Desipio-approved list of Cubs to hate.

WTF, PenFoe?!?!
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: flannj on July 30, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
/Victory

What a win. Really glad it worked out for you and our catcher was awful for a long time.

I know, right?

Soto wasn't even on the Desipio-approved list of Cubs to hate.

WTF, PenFoe?!?!

You're such an innovator.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on July 30, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
/Victory

What a win. Really glad it worked out for you and our catcher was awful for a long time.

I know, right?

Soto wasn't even on the Desipio-approved list of Cubs to hate.

WTF, PenFoe?!?!

You're such an innovator.

More like innoHATER, amirite?
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Wheezer on July 30, 2012, 11:27:21 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 10:57:05 PM
Quote from: flannj on July 30, 2012, 10:50:59 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 10:46:51 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 30, 2012, 10:16:48 PM
Quote from: PenPho on July 30, 2012, 09:44:40 PM
/Victory

What a win. Really glad it worked out for you and our catcher was awful for a long time.

I know, right?

Soto wasn't even on the Desipio-approved list of Cubs to hate.

WTF, PenFoe?!?!

You're such an innovator.

More like innoHATER, amirite?

(http://i.imgur.com/t5Usv.jpg)
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PM
I knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.

I'm changing it to Oots no matter what. Oots is my new favorite player.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Bort on July 31, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.

I'm changing it to Oots no matter what. Oots is my new favorite player.

I'm getting a SOOT shersey to express my support to all the Edwardian cockney chimneysweeps on the team.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Quality Start Machine on July 31, 2012, 09:03:04 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 31, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.

I'm changing it to Oots no matter what. Oots is my new favorite player.

I'm getting a SOOT shersey to express my support to all the Edwardian cockney chimneysweeps on the team.

Now we know why Tonk is here - the Cubs just signed him.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Internet Apex on July 31, 2012, 09:16:57 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 31, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.

I'm changing it to Oots no matter what. Oots is my new favorite player.

I'm getting a SOOT shersey to express my support to all the Edwardian cockney chimneysweeps on the team.

Racist.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: J. Walter Weatherman on July 31, 2012, 09:18:13 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 31, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.

I'm changing it to Oots no matter what. Oots is my new favorite player.

I'm getting a SOOT shersey to express my support to all the Edwardian cockney chimneysweeps on the team in celebration of a successful firebarning.

Char-grilled Snork'd
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: CT III on July 31, 2012, 09:21:07 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 31, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.

I'm changing it to Oots no matter what. Oots is my new favorite player.

I'm getting a SOOT shersey to express my support to all the Edwardian cockney chimneysweeps on the team.

So you're the guy who coreographed the opening ceremonies.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Tonker on July 31, 2012, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 31, 2012, 09:03:04 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 31, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.

I'm changing it to Oots no matter what. Oots is my new favorite player.

I'm getting a SOOT shersey to express my support to all the Edwardian cockney chimneysweeps on the team.

Now we know why Tonk is here - the Cubs just signed him.

If I'd had my glove with me last night, I'd have had a decent chance of ending the game in the Cubs' outfield.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: Tony on July 31, 2012, 10:19:58 AM
Quote from: Tonker on July 31, 2012, 09:31:53 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 31, 2012, 09:03:04 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 31, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.

I'm changing it to Oots no matter what. Oots is my new favorite player.

I'm getting a SOOT shersey to express my support to all the Edwardian cockney chimneysweeps on the team.

Now we know why Tonk is here - the Cubs just signed him.

If I'd had my glove with me last night, I'd have had a decent chance of ending the game in the Cubs' outfield.

Reed was lucky he was traded before the game was over so you couldn't follow him home.
Title: Re: Geovany Soto and Penfoe- A Modest Proposal
Post by: flannj on July 31, 2012, 11:06:21 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 31, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 31, 2012, 08:46:51 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 31, 2012, 08:37:15 AM
Quote from: Tony on July 30, 2012, 11:47:04 PMI knew that Soto shersey was a bad idea when I got it.

At least you didn't get an actual jersey. Really hoping the Cubs acquire a guy named Tsoo or Oots so I can get a cheap "new" jersey.

I'm changing it to Oots no matter what. Oots is my new favorite player.

I'm getting a SOOT shersey to express my support to all the Edwardian cockney chimneysweeps on the team.

I'm picturing CubbieBlooStoo wearing it with black socks and sandals.