I only assume this as it has been 48 hours and Mike Donohue has failed to properly mark the passing of Bears draft bust John Thierry.
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.
Not dead, nor did I go into seizures upon seeing the orange links (and SKO threw out an APB on Twitter (https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/934545836721213440) also but I was generally unplugged all weekend).
To re-phrase what I replied with...
Curtises Conway and (P)Enis, and Walt Harris (but not Rashaan Salaam) outlast another one.
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.
DPD
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was
John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.
DPD
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.
Can confirm that this amazing nickname was the first thing that popped into my head when I heard the news Thierry had not outlasted Alonzo Spellman.
Quote from: R-V on November 27, 2017, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.
DPD
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.
Can confirm that this amazing nickname was the first thing that popped into my head when I heard the news Thierry had not outlasted Alonzo Spellman.
same. also that Wanny compared him to Charles Haley when drafting him.
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.
DPD
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.
I did remember, but obviously Garbanzo Beans outlasted him.
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 01:38:59 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.
DPD
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.
I did remember, but obviously Garbanzo Beans outlasted him.
It's clearly the Morgan Freeman of nicknames.
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?
OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?
OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Jim Flanigan fucking sucked, sorry.
Walt Harris was a decent player for a few years. I would actually say he was their best draft pick (with Raymont a close second) and that is just so fucking sad, particularly when you factor in the fact that Wannstedt gets paid to talk about the NFL on the SCORE.
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?
OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Jim Flanigan fucking sucked, sorry.
Walt Harris was a decent player for a few years. I would actually say he was their best draft pick (with Raymont a close second) and that is just so fucking sad, particularly when you factor in the fact that Wannstedt gets paid to talk about the NFL on the SCORE.
I have often wondered about the Bears' predilection for drafting mediocre players from mediocre Mid-Western schools. Don't they subscribe to newspapers that aren't published in Illinois or Indiana? Do their TV sets not get stations located outside of those states?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?
OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?
OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?
Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).
And Holdman's a good call. For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).
Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?
OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?
Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).
And Holdman's a good call. For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).
Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.
Curtis Conway had over 8,000 yards receiving in his career and played for over a decade despite never playing with a quarterback better than Rookie Drew Brees. He caught passes from Rick Mirer AND Ryan Leaf. He was a fine pick, but there's never really been any point to being a quality receiver on the Bears.
Just to round this out, I will add that Marcus Robinson (1997), Tony Parrish and Patrick Mannelly (both 1998) proved to not be 100% dogshit, which was pretty much the bar Wannstedt set.
DPD
And Colvin wouldn't count as he was drafted in 1999.
*(I should add that Wannstedt was essentially replaced in making draft selections by Mark Hatley either right before or right after the 1997 draft so he wouldn't even really get credit for Parrish and Mannelly (and possibly Robinson) anyway).
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?
OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?
Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).
And Holdman's a good call. For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).
Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.
Curtis Conway had over 8,000 yards receiving in his career and played for over a decade despite never playing with a quarterback better than Rookie Drew Brees. He caught passes from Rick Mirer AND Ryan Leaf. He was a fine pick, but there's never really been any point to being a quality receiver on the Bears.
He was a decent WR, but a shitty pick at #7 overall for a junior who only really had one and a half collegiate seasons as a WR.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 03:34:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?
OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?
Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).
And Holdman's a good call. For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).
Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.
Curtis Conway had over 8,000 yards receiving in his career and played for over a decade despite never playing with a quarterback better than Rookie Drew Brees. He caught passes from Rick Mirer AND Ryan Leaf. He was a fine pick, but there's never really been any point to being a quality receiver on the Bears.
He was a decent WR, but a shitty pick at #7 overall for a junior who only really had one and a half collegiate seasons as a WR.
His pedigree in college is irrelevant, he was a good NFL receiver. If he'd had even remotely competent quarterback play for most of his career he'd have been a 10,000+ yard receiver. They also had bigger needs at WR at the time than on the OL (where HOF Willie Roaf went with the next pick) or on defense (where the best pick would have been Strahan, but he was underrated by every single team in that draft and went in the middle of the 2nd round anyway). It was a perfectly defensible lottery pick and it was a player who had a solid NFL career.
All of this talk has made me grateful that Ryan Pace is here now to blow all our tits off with some kickass draft picks. *quickly shoves Kevin White under the rug*
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2017, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 03:34:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks.
Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?
OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?
Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).
And Holdman's a good call. For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).
Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.
Curtis Conway had over 8,000 yards receiving in his career and played for over a decade despite never playing with a quarterback better than Rookie Drew Brees. He caught passes from Rick Mirer AND Ryan Leaf. He was a fine pick, but there's never really been any point to being a quality receiver on the Bears.
He was a decent WR, but a shitty pick at #7 overall for a junior who only really had one and a half collegiate seasons as a WR.
His pedigree in college is irrelevant, he was a good NFL receiver. If he'd had even remotely competent quarterback play for most of his career he'd have been a 10,000+ yard receiver. They also had bigger needs at WR at the time than on the OL (where HOF Willie Roaf went with the next pick) or on defense (where the best pick would have been Strahan, but he was underrated by every single team in that draft and went in the middle of the 2nd round anyway). It was a perfectly defensible lottery pick and it was a player who had a solid NFL career.
Assume you are making an NBA joke or something.