I'm excited. Who else is with me?
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2012, 02:08:02 PM
I'm excited. Who else is with me?
This movie is going to make my peach colored thermos rise.
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2012, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2012, 02:08:02 PM
I'm excited. Who else is with me?
This movie is going to make my peach colored thermos rise.
Like this?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4jji9p9vW1rper93o1_500.jpg)
Quote from: PenPho on July 16, 2012, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: Slaky on July 16, 2012, 02:22:41 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 16, 2012, 02:08:02 PM
I'm excited. Who else is with me?
This movie is going to make my peach colored thermos rise.
Like this?
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4jji9p9vW1rper93o1_500.jpg)
God Damnit, Marie.
I look forward to hearing the account of Weebs not seeing it.
Quote from: Fork on July 17, 2012, 07:20:53 AM
I look forward to hearing the account of Weebs not seeing it.
I remember being at a one-off job opportunity back in my jorb search days and getting a text from Fork telling me that I'd missed the greatest day in the history of the Shoutbox. The one day out of like 100 that I had to work. Go figure.
Quote from: Internet Apex on July 17, 2012, 09:00:23 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 17, 2012, 07:20:53 AM
I look forward to hearing the account of Weebs not seeing it.
I remember being at a one-off job opportunity back in my jorb search days and getting a text from Fork telling me that I'd missed the greatest day in the history of the Shoutbox. The one day out of like 100 that I had to work. Go figure.
It was pre-Slogger, and Thrill managed to painstakingly clip the whole piece together--in retrospect, one of the events that illustrated the necessity for the Slogger's invention.
Holy fucking shit, what kind of monster invades a theater and massacres people?
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
This morning my wife said, "Was it Weebs?"
The best of times, the worst of times, indeed.
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
No, I wouldn't bring my 2 year old to a midnight movie. To any movie. I keep him chained to the radiator and feed him twice a day. NO TALKING.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:24:58 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
No, I wouldn't bring my 2 year old to a midnight movie. To any movie. I keep him chained to the radiator and feed him twice a day. NO TALKING.
Pretty sure we waited until my daughter was 3 and it was "Horton Hears a Who"...nonetheless this is some awful shit. Firing on a captive audience immediately reminds of me of Cole Hall.
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado
is pretty ghetto.
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado is pretty ghetto.
Is it? I honestly don't know. If so, then the comments I've seen saying "If the theatergoers were armed, this would never have happened" is even more idiotic.
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado is pretty ghetto.
Is it? I honestly don't know. If so, then the comments I've seen saying "If the theatergoers were armed, this would never have happened" is even more idiotic.
People said that? Holy hell.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado is pretty ghetto.
Is it? I honestly don't know. If so, then the comments I've seen saying "If the theatergoers were armed, this would never have happened" is even more idiotic.
People said that? Holy hell.
3 month olds with guns? what a world.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado is pretty ghetto.
Is it? I honestly don't know. If so, then the comments I've seen saying "If the theatergoers were armed, this would never have happened" is even more idiotic.
People said that? Holy hell.
Not sure if you're FB friends with Scott from softball, but he had a friend who said so. In fairnes, it wasn't helped with Scott himself coming out in favor of politicizing it (from the left), but still. Dumb argument.
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado is pretty ghetto.
Is it? I honestly don't know.
A great deal of it is, anyways. Though Aurora's out in the seemingly never-ending sprawl east of Denver and is pretty fucking big. So I'm sure there are nice parts, too.
But by and large its reputation, deserved or not, is "ghetto". (For Colorado.)
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado is pretty ghetto.
Is it? I honestly don't know. If so, then the comments I've seen saying "If the theatergoers were armed, this would never have happened" is even more idiotic.
People said that? Holy hell.
Nothing says safety like multiple gunmen opening fire at each other in a movie theater.
Quote from: Fork on July 20, 2012, 10:37:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado is pretty ghetto.
Is it? I honestly don't know. If so, then the comments I've seen saying "If the theatergoers were armed, this would never have happened" is even more idiotic.
People said that? Holy hell.
Nothing says safety like multiple gunmen opening fire at each other in a movie theater.
I suspect part of the idea is that this potentially mentally ill man would have reconsidered this clearly insane and likely suicidal act upon a rational consideration of the threat posed to him by a legally armed citizenry (http://www.co.arapahoe.co.us/Departments/SH/Concealed%20Weapons/Concealed%20Handgun%20Permit%20Information.asp).
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 10:51:35 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 20, 2012, 10:37:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado is pretty ghetto.
Is it? I honestly don't know. If so, then the comments I've seen saying "If the theatergoers were armed, this would never have happened" is even more idiotic.
People said that? Holy hell.
Nothing says safety like multiple gunmen opening fire at each other in a movie theater.
I suspect part of the idea is that this potentially mentally ill man would have reconsidered this clearly insane and likely suicidal act upon a rational consideration of the threat posed to him by a legally armed citizenry (http://www.co.arapahoe.co.us/Departments/SH/Concealed%20Weapons/Concealed%20Handgun%20Permit%20Information.asp).
Or maybe seeing the threat presented by an armed citizenry, he decides to build a bomb instead.
Quote from: Fork on July 20, 2012, 10:56:39 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 10:51:35 AM
Quote from: Fork on July 20, 2012, 10:37:55 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:50:18 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:37:37 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:34:34 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:23:32 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 09:06:06 AM
Trying my best not to rush to judgement here--the facts aren't all in of course--but WTF people (http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/us/colorado-theater-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1)?
QuoteOne of the injured was just 3 months old, according to hospital workers.
Trying not to rush to judgement about what? People killing 3-month-olds? People taking 3-month-olds to the movies?
That. It was a midnight showing. Hey--we've had babysitters bail on us, but this wasn't like a court appearance or something. Pretty sure the movie'll be running for a while.
Quote from: Slaky on July 20, 2012, 09:21:33 AM
Everyone's out on their high horse. This sucks. Be glad you're alive.
Not saying they desrved it obvviously, just... you know...what's the upside to brtnging a 3-month old to a midnight showing of a blockbuster film? Even if nothing happened that's annoying on a few levels.
Well, Aurora, Colorado is pretty ghetto.
Is it? I honestly don't know. If so, then the comments I've seen saying "If the theatergoers were armed, this would never have happened" is even more idiotic.
People said that? Holy hell.
Nothing says safety like multiple gunmen opening fire at each other in a movie theater.
I suspect part of the idea is that this potentially mentally ill man would have reconsidered this clearly insane and likely suicidal act upon a rational consideration of the threat posed to him by a legally armed citizenry (http://www.co.arapahoe.co.us/Departments/SH/Concealed%20Weapons/Concealed%20Handgun%20Permit%20Information.asp).
Or maybe seeing the threat presented by an armed citezenry, he decides to build a bomb instead.
Pfft. Concealed carry tactical nukes is the ultimate safety net. Local MAD is a winner.
The suspect. (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947/police-search-apartment-suspected-gunman-deadly-aurora-shooting)
Edit: Am I wrong for having a knee jerk reaction and not allowing my kids to go see this movie? At least for awhile?
Quote from: flannj on July 20, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
The suspect. (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947/police-search-apartment-suspected-gunman-deadly-aurora-shooting)
QuoteUsing a camera with a zoom lens, Lujan's roommate said he could see into the suspect's kitchen, where a poster of Will Farrell in the movie "Anchorman" was hanging on the kitchen wall.
Intrepid Reader: Bad KermitI blame Adam McKay.
When I got up this morning and saw this page full of posts, I assumed they were spoilers of some kind.
Guess I called that putt a little early.
Has this already been politicized?
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 20, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
When I got up this morning and saw this page full of posts, I assumed they were spoilers of some kind.
Guess I called that putt a little early.
Has this already been politicized?
Gil, I would like to welcome you to the United States of America. Not a bad place, but if someone picks his nose in public, it immediately is used by Ann Coulter to explain that under Obama nose pickers went up 75% and by Paul Krugman to explain that Bush blocked anti-nose picking legislation four times and by Tom Friedman to explain the Chinese not only are more efficient at picking their nose, but because of the so-awesome government there, they have made boogers a delicacy and created thousands of new industries around nose picking, SO WE ARE SO SCREWED AS A NATION.
Twelve people were killed and 50 were wounded in an event that should be nightmare fuel for anyone. Why would the Brady people or the NRA wait for the next of kin to be notified?
Quote from: Brownie on July 20, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 20, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
When I got up this morning and saw this page full of posts, I assumed they were spoilers of some kind.
Guess I called that putt a little early.
Has this already been politicized?
Gil, I would like to welcome you to the United States of America. Not a bad place, but if someone picks his nose in public, it immediately is used by Ann Coulter to explain that under Obama nose pickers went up 75% and by Paul Krugman to explain that Bush blocked anti-nose picking legislation four times and by Tom Friedman to explain the Chinese not only are more efficient at picking their nose, but because of the so-awesome government there, they have made boogers a delicacy and created thousands of new industries around nose picking, SO WE ARE SO SCREWED AS A NATION.
Twelve people were killed and 50 were wounded in an event that should be nightmare fuel for anyone. Why would the Brady people or the NRA wait for the next of kin to be notified?
Well this was an unfortunate tweet:
http://mashable.com/2012/07/20/nra-tweet/
Quote from: R-V on July 20, 2012, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 20, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 20, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
When I got up this morning and saw this page full of posts, I assumed they were spoilers of some kind.
Guess I called that putt a little early.
Has this already been politicized?
Gil, I would like to welcome you to the United States of America. Not a bad place, but if someone picks his nose in public, it immediately is used by Ann Coulter to explain that under Obama nose pickers went up 75% and by Paul Krugman to explain that Bush blocked anti-nose picking legislation four times and by Tom Friedman to explain the Chinese not only are more efficient at picking their nose, but because of the so-awesome government there, they have made boogers a delicacy and created thousands of new industries around nose picking, SO WE ARE SO SCREWED AS A NATION.
Twelve people were killed and 50 were wounded in an event that should be nightmare fuel for anyone. Why would the Brady people or the NRA wait for the next of kin to be notified?
Well this was an unfortunate tweet:
http://mashable.com/2012/07/20/nra-tweet/
And perhaps an even more unfortunate tweet:
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg875/scaled.php?tn=0&server=875&filename=qr2is.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
Quote from: Eli on July 20, 2012, 01:20:44 PM
Quote from: R-V on July 20, 2012, 12:29:12 PM
Quote from: Brownie on July 20, 2012, 12:25:43 PM
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 20, 2012, 12:16:11 PM
When I got up this morning and saw this page full of posts, I assumed they were spoilers of some kind.
Guess I called that putt a little early.
Has this already been politicized?
Gil, I would like to welcome you to the United States of America. Not a bad place, but if someone picks his nose in public, it immediately is used by Ann Coulter to explain that under Obama nose pickers went up 75% and by Paul Krugman to explain that Bush blocked anti-nose picking legislation four times and by Tom Friedman to explain the Chinese not only are more efficient at picking their nose, but because of the so-awesome government there, they have made boogers a delicacy and created thousands of new industries around nose picking, SO WE ARE SO SCREWED AS A NATION.
Twelve people were killed and 50 were wounded in an event that should be nightmare fuel for anyone. Why would the Brady people or the NRA wait for the next of kin to be notified?
Well this was an unfortunate tweet:
http://mashable.com/2012/07/20/nra-tweet/
And perhaps an even more unfortunate tweet:
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg875/scaled.php?tn=0&server=875&filename=qr2is.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
;)
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on July 20, 2012, 01:26:35 PM
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When I got up this morning and saw this page full of posts, I assumed they were spoilers of some kind.
Guess I called that putt a little early.
Has this already been politicized?
Gil, I would like to welcome you to the United States of America. Not a bad place, but if someone picks his nose in public, it immediately is used by Ann Coulter to explain that under Obama nose pickers went up 75% and by Paul Krugman to explain that Bush blocked anti-nose picking legislation four times and by Tom Friedman to explain the Chinese not only are more efficient at picking their nose, but because of the so-awesome government there, they have made boogers a delicacy and created thousands of new industries around nose picking, SO WE ARE SO SCREWED AS A NATION.
Twelve people were killed and 50 were wounded in an event that should be nightmare fuel for anyone. Why would the Brady people or the NRA wait for the next of kin to be notified?
Well this was an unfortunate tweet:
http://mashable.com/2012/07/20/nra-tweet/
And perhaps an even more unfortunate tweet:
(http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg875/scaled.php?tn=0&server=875&filename=qr2is.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640)
;)
Sounds about right.
AND WE ARE SCREWED AS A NATION!!!!
I was going to take JAPex to this movie tomorrow, assuming I could get a ticket. I'll be seeing Ted instead. I don't want to see this one for awhile. But who gives a fuck? There's nothing to say about this shit that hasn't already been said. And people always say too damn much.
Quote from: Fork on July 20, 2012, 09:19:44 AM
This morning my wife said, "Was it Weebs?"
The best of times, the worst of times, indeed.
God Damn it, Laurie.
I laughed.
Quote from: flannj on July 20, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
The suspect. (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947/police-search-apartment-suspected-gunman-deadly-aurora-shooting)
Edit: Am I wrong for having a knee jerk reaction and not allowing my kids to go see this movie? At least for awhile?
Based on the dude's background and the supposed demograhpic, am I wrong for having a knee jerk reaction in thinking the kid had racial motives?
Quote from: PANK! on July 20, 2012, 03:54:08 PM
Quote from: flannj on July 20, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
The suspect. (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947/police-search-apartment-suspected-gunman-deadly-aurora-shooting)
Edit: Am I wrong for having a knee jerk reaction and not allowing my kids to go see this movie? At least for awhile?
Based on the dude's background and the supposed demograhpic, am I wrong for having a knee jerk reaction in thinking the kid had racial motives?
I'm thinking his motives were more along the Antarctic Nazi alien-lizard kind.
Quote from: CT III on July 20, 2012, 04:17:49 PM
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Quote from: flannj on July 20, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
The suspect. (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947/police-search-apartment-suspected-gunman-deadly-aurora-shooting)
Edit: Am I wrong for having a knee jerk reaction and not allowing my kids to go see this movie? At least for awhile?
Based on the dude's background and the supposed demograhpic, am I wrong for having a knee jerk reaction in thinking the kid had racial motives?
I'm thinking his motives were more along the Antarctic Nazi alien-lizard kind.
Yeah... As far as knee-jerk reactions go, this sort of speculation (http://www.balloon-juice.com/2012/07/20/a-little-perspective/) seems like it could be a bit more on target.
James Holmes is reportedly a 24-year-old socially-withdrawn loner and Phi Beta Kappa who recently dropped out of grad school. Bearing that in mind, this guy notes:
QuoteSchizophrenia is an especially cruel disease. With no warning it strikes often very smart, promising young people and eats away the core of their self. It strikes at exactly the age when young men and women become independent from their parents, making it hard to impossible for family to catch the early warning signs or do anything about it when they do. It broke my heart to see two different young people leave a PhD program when their deteriorating condition, and the medications to control it, made it impossible to continue their studies.
Jared Loughner is 24 now. The schizophrenic who shot up a psychiatric hospital in Pittsburgh was 30, but by his mid twenties he was already dangerous, paranoid and struggling to maintain a regular job. We still know almost nothing about James Holmes, the man who committed these shootings, but this nugget from ABC suggests that we should take a deep breath before we assume any coherent political motives on the shooter's part.
QuoteA San Diego woman who identified herself as James Holmes' mother told ABC News she had awoken unaware of the shooting and had not yet been contacted by authorities. She immediately expressed concern that her son may have been involved.
"You have the right person," she said, apparently speaking on gut instinct. "I need to call the police... I need to fly out to Colorado."
Best not to assume anything yet. Take some time away from the blog, hug someone you care about and pray for the victims if praying is your thing.
Relatedly, you may have heard about Jessica Ghawi already, but if not...
She wrote this blog post (http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com/2012/06/05/late-night-thoughts-on-the-eaton-center-shooting/) a month and a half ago after narrowly missing getting caught in the middle of the Toronto mall shooting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Eaton_Centre#2012_shooting) in which two people were killed:
QuoteI can't get this odd feeling out of my chest. This empty, almost sickening feeling won't go away. I noticed this feeling when I was in the Eaton Center in Toronto just seconds before someone opened fire in the food court. An odd feeling which led me to go outside and unknowingly out of harm's way. It's hard for me to wrap my mind around how a weird feeling saved me from being in the middle of a deadly shooting.
What started off as a trip to the mall to get sushi and shop, ended up as a day that has forever changed my life. I was on a mission to eat sushi that day, and when I'm on a mission, nothing will deter me. When I arrived at the Eaton Center mall, I walked down to the food court and spotted a sushi restaurant. Instead of walking in, sitting down and enjoying sushi, I changed my mind, which is very unlike me, and decided that a greasy burger and poutine would do the trick. I rushed through my dinner. I found out after seeing a map of the scene, that minutes later a man was standing in the same spot I just ate at and opened fire in the food court full of people. Had I had sushi, I would've been in the same place where one of the victims was found.
My receipt shows my purchase was made at 6:20 pm. After that purchase I said I felt funny. It wasn't the kind of funny you feel after spending money you know you shouldn't have spent. It was almost a panicky feeling that left my chest feeling like something was missing. A feeling that was overwhelming enough to lead me to head outside in the rain to get fresh air instead of continuing back into the food court to go shopping at SportChek. The gunshots rung out at 6:23. Had I not gone outside, I would've been in the midst of gunfire.
...
I was shown how fragile life was on Saturday. I saw the terror on bystanders' faces. I saw the victims of a senseless crime. I saw lives change. I was reminded that we don't know when or where our time on Earth will end. When or where we will breathe our last breath. For one man, it was in the middle of a busy food court on a Saturday evening.
I say all the time that every moment we have to live our life is a blessing. So often I have found myself taking it for granted. Every hug from a family member. Every laugh we share with friends. Even the times of solitude are all blessings. Every second of every day is a gift. After Saturday evening, I know I truly understand how blessed I am for each second I am given.
I feel like I am overreacting about what I experienced. But I can't help but be thankful for whatever caused me to make the choices that I made that day. My mind keeps replaying what I saw over in my head. I hope the victims make a full recovery. I wish I could shake this odd feeling from my chest. The feeling that's reminding me how blessed I am. The same feeling that made me leave the Eaton Center. The feeling that may have potentially saved my life.
She was among the 12 killed in Aurora last night.
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Quote from: flannj on July 20, 2012, 11:28:03 AM
The suspect. (http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_21118947/police-search-apartment-suspected-gunman-deadly-aurora-shooting)
Edit: Am I wrong for having a knee jerk reaction and not allowing my kids to go see this movie? At least for awhile?
Based on the dude's background and the supposed demograhpic, am I wrong for having a knee jerk reaction in thinking the kid had racial motives?
It was clearly bath salts.
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
Great article by Ebert. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/opinion/weve-seen-this-movie-before.html)
Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
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Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
No, Chuck.
Quote from: BH on July 21, 2012, 03:12:40 PM
Great article by Ebert. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/opinion/weve-seen-this-movie-before.html)
I'm not as passionate about gun control as some, but this is definitely true.
QuoteThis would be an excellent time for our political parties to join together in calling for restrictions on the sale and possession of deadly weapons. That is unlikely, because the issue has become so closely linked to paranoid fantasies about a federal takeover of personal liberties that many politicians feel they cannot afford to advocate gun control.
I saw it the next night. It was awesome. As of right now I'd say it was somehow even better than The Dark Knight. When the adrenaline passes in a few days maybe I'll come to a more objective evaluation, but holy shit, greatest movie trilogy ever.
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Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
No, Chuck.
It was easily the weakest of the three. That doesn't make it bad.
Quote from: PANK! on July 22, 2012, 10:21:49 AM
Quote from: BH on July 21, 2012, 03:12:40 PM
Great article by Ebert. (http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/21/opinion/weve-seen-this-movie-before.html)
I'm not as passionate about gun control as some, but this is definitely true.
QuoteThis would be an excellent time for our political parties to join together in calling for restrictions on the sale and possession of deadly weapons. That is unlikely, because the issue has become so closely linked to paranoid fantasies about a federal takeover of personal liberties that many politicians feel they cannot afford to advocate gun control.
Why even listen to those clamoring for more gun control when Americans will have forgotten about this whole thing in two weeks or so?
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Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
No, Chuck.
It was easily the weakest of the three. That doesn't make it bad.
You're truly amazing Chuck.
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Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
No, Chuck.
It was easily the weakest of the three. That doesn't make it bad.
I haven't seen it yet. That wasn't really my point at all.
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Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
No, Chuck.
It was easily the weakest of the three. That doesn't make it bad.
I haven't seen it yet. That wasn't really my point at all.
Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Thrill.
Chuck, I believe Thrill and SKO were objecting to your ridiculous analogy more than anything else.
Quote from: Gilgamesh on July 22, 2012, 08:30:48 PM
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Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
No, Chuck.
It was easily the weakest of the three. That doesn't make it bad.
I haven't seen it yet. That wasn't really my point at all.
Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Thrill.
Chuck, I believe Thrill and SKO were objecting to your ridiculous analogy more than anything else.
The analogy was awful, awful, but I was definitely objecting to the "weakest of the three" statement. I personally found it better than The Dark Knight. I'll not quibble with anyone who prefers TDK, as that was undoubtedly a masterful film, but, as much as I like Batman Begins, TDKR was much better.
Quote from: SKO on July 22, 2012, 08:54:00 PM
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Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
No, Chuck.
It was easily the weakest of the three. That doesn't make it bad.
I haven't seen it yet. That wasn't really my point at all.
Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Thrill.
Chuck, I believe Thrill and SKO were objecting to your ridiculous analogy more than anything else.
The analogy was awful, awful, but I was definitely objecting to the "weakest of the three" statement. I personally found it better than The Dark Knight. I'll not quibble with anyone who prefers TDK, as that was undoubtedly a masterful film, but, as much as I like Batman Begins, TDKR was much better.
I'm not sure it's better than TDK (though it may well be...I need some time to digest it), but it was better than Begins.
And that analogy couldn't have been more Gitlesian without references to Cheers, M*A*S*H, and Airplane. Or more awful, awful.
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Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
No, Chuck.
It was easily the weakest of the three. That doesn't make it bad.
I haven't seen it yet. That wasn't really my point at all.
Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Thrill.
Chuck, I believe Thrill and SKO were objecting to your ridiculous analogy more than anything else.
Just wanted to say that I enjoyed this comment.
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Quote from: Slaky on July 21, 2012, 12:26:23 AM
I saw it. It was fucking awesome.
It was good. Like Monsters Inc. good where Dark Knight is Nemo and Batman Begins is Toy Story 2.
No, Chuck.
It was easily the weakest of the three. That doesn't make it bad.
I haven't seen it yet. That wasn't really my point at all.
Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Thrill.
Chuck, I believe Thrill and SKO were objecting to your ridiculous analogy more than anything else.
Just wanted to say that I enjoyed this comment.
I, too, laughed.
Quote from: SKO on July 22, 2012, 05:47:43 PM
I saw it the next night. It was awesome. As of right now I'd say it was somehow even better than The Dark Knight. When the adrenaline passes in a few days maybe I'll come to a more objective evaluation, but holy shit, greatest movie trilogy ever.
We never thought anything would top the Star Wars prequels.
So, have enough seen it to discuss what happens?
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on July 23, 2012, 08:29:59 AMSo, have enough seen it to discuss what happens?
Yes. SKO and Slaky are right, it was the balls. No point in responding to Chuck.
The initial fight between Batman and Bane was just brutal. And although you knew he was going to make the leap in the prison, it didn't make it any less satisfying when it happened. The one quibble my wife had was how Batman got back into Gotham so easily what with it being entirely cut off. It took me a minute but then I realized: it's because he's fucking Batman.
It sucks that Ledger died after the last one. Considering that there were callbacks to basically every major character from the first two, you just have to think he would have been involved somehow.
Quote from: R-V on July 23, 2012, 09:00:49 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on July 23, 2012, 08:29:59 AMSo, have enough seen it to discuss what happens?
Yes. SKO and Slaky are right, it was the balls. No point in responding to Chuck.
The initial fight between Batman and Bane was just brutal. And although you knew he was going to make the leap in the prison, it didn't make it any less satisfying when it happened. The one quibble my wife had was how Batman got back into Gotham so easily what with it being entirely cut off. It took me a minute but then I realized: it's because he's fucking Batman.
It sucks that Ledger died after the last one. Considering that there were callbacks to basically every major character from the first two, you just have to think he would have been involved somehow.
SPOILER ALERT
Nah. It'd be impossible to involve the Joker in that one and not make it his show. I love Christopher Nolan because he based all three movies off of my favorite Batman story arcs and yet went way beyond the original material so I had no idea what would happen. Batman Begins was based on Batman: Year One, while The Dark Knight combined The Long Halloween and The Killing Joke. This one was Knightfall. I spent the entire movie waiting for Bane to break his back. When it happened I was somehow still shocked and traumatized. The ending of this film was beyond satisfying. I'd have been perfectly content had he lived or died, since he pulled off both so well.
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 10:00:16 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 23, 2012, 09:00:49 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on July 23, 2012, 08:29:59 AMSo, have enough seen it to discuss what happens?
Yes. SKO and Slaky are right, it was the balls. No point in responding to Chuck.
The initial fight between Batman and Bane was just brutal. And although you knew he was going to make the leap in the prison, it didn't make it any less satisfying when it happened. The one quibble my wife had was how Batman got back into Gotham so easily what with it being entirely cut off. It took me a minute but then I realized: it's because he's fucking Batman.
It sucks that Ledger died after the last one. Considering that there were callbacks to basically every major character from the first two, you just have to think he would have been involved somehow.
SPOILER ALERT
Nah. It'd be impossible to involve the Joker in that one and not make it his show. I love Christopher Nolan because he based all three movies off of my favorite Batman story arcs and yet went way beyond the original material so I had no idea what would happen. Batman Begins was based on Batman: Year One, while The Dark Knight combined The Long Halloween and The Killing Joke. This one was Knightfall. I spent the entire movie waiting for Bane to break his back. When it happened I was somehow still shocked and traumatized. The ending of this film was beyond satisfying. I'd have been perfectly content had he lived or died, since he pulled off both so well.
Well said. It would have been cool if they included the venom that made Bane grow when he was ready to kick ass but Bane has to be one of the best villains I've seen in a long time. He was truly frightening. When Batman began winning that rematch and finally broke his mask with a punch I was ready to cheer like it was some kind of walk-off home run. So bad ass.
If someone has the guts to make a Batman with JGL as Robin and maybe loosely base it on older Batman or even Batman Beyond, it could be pretty cool.
I mean, every so often it seems that these series reboot - like Spider-Man this year - but how can you reboot Batman knowing the Herculean effort it would take to even come close to being as good as this trilogy? What's the point?
The good news for me, as a video game dork, is that as long as they keep making the Arkham Asylum/City games it's almost like the series can never die. If you truly can't get enough Batman - I suggest you pick up both games. It's all of the voices from Batman: The Animated Series (which fucking owns) and the art and storylines are dark, epic and creepy as fuck. They do tons of callbacks and include as many characters as possible. Rumors are the next game is going to use Gotham City as a sandbox environment and the game will be more do whatever you want than ever before.
Anyway, I'm going to go read my Batman books again.
Batman!
Quote from: Slaky on July 23, 2012, 10:18:45 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 10:00:16 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 23, 2012, 09:00:49 AM
Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on July 23, 2012, 08:29:59 AMSo, have enough seen it to discuss what happens?
Yes. SKO and Slaky are right, it was the balls. No point in responding to Chuck.
The initial fight between Batman and Bane was just brutal. And although you knew he was going to make the leap in the prison, it didn't make it any less satisfying when it happened. The one quibble my wife had was how Batman got back into Gotham so easily what with it being entirely cut off. It took me a minute but then I realized: it's because he's fucking Batman.
It sucks that Ledger died after the last one. Considering that there were callbacks to basically every major character from the first two, you just have to think he would have been involved somehow.
SPOILER ALERT
Nah. It'd be impossible to involve the Joker in that one and not make it his show. I love Christopher Nolan because he based all three movies off of my favorite Batman story arcs and yet went way beyond the original material so I had no idea what would happen. Batman Begins was based on Batman: Year One, while The Dark Knight combined The Long Halloween and The Killing Joke. This one was Knightfall. I spent the entire movie waiting for Bane to break his back. When it happened I was somehow still shocked and traumatized. The ending of this film was beyond satisfying. I'd have been perfectly content had he lived or died, since he pulled off both so well.
Well said. It would have been cool if they included the venom that made Bane grow when he was ready to kick ass but Bane has to be one of the best villains I've seen in a long time. He was truly frightening. When Batman began winning that rematch and finally broke his mask with a punch I was ready to cheer like it was some kind of walk-off home run. So bad ass.
If someone has the guts to make a Batman with JGL as Robin and maybe loosely base it on older Batman or even Batman Beyond, it could be pretty cool.
I mean, every so often it seems that these series reboot - like Spider-Man this year - but how can you reboot Batman knowing the Herculean effort it would take to even come close to being as good as this trilogy? What's the point?
The good news for me, as a video game dork, is that as long as they keep making the Arkham Asylum/City games it's almost like the series can never die. If you truly can't get enough Batman - I suggest you pick up both games. It's all of the voices from Batman: The Animated Series (which fucking owns) and the art and storylines are dark, epic and creepy as fuck. They do tons of callbacks and include as many characters as possible. Rumors are the next game is going to use Gotham City as a sandbox environment and the game will be more do whatever you want than ever before.
Anyway, I'm going to go read my Batman books again.
Batman!
Batman: The Animated Series is so fucking good. I was four when it first started, so I never got much beyond HEY BATMAN during the original run. My friend owns them all and Mask of the Phantasm on DVD and insisted I watch them again a few years ago. Utterly brilliant. I respect the Burton films, but Mask of the Phantasm is the best non-Nolan Batman film. Period.
Also, Slak, I actually fist pumped when he broke Bane's mask, so you can decide whether that makes you awesome or lame in my company. I'll also cop to real, human tears from the moment he bid farewell to Gordon by mentioning the coat from the first movie right up until the end.
Why can't Christopher Nolan make every movie ever?
SKO: Knightfall is a big part, but it also works in some Dark Knight Returns. And a really cool nod to Batman '66 with trying to dispose of a big round bomb.
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2012, 10:47:40 AM
SKO: Knightfall is a big part, but it also works in some Dark Knight Returns. And a really cool nod to Batman '66 with trying to dispose of a big round bomb.
Yeah, I meant to toss that in. He usually borrows major elements from two-three major storylines and then the rest is all of his genius finding a way to combine them and create something entirely new with them. Definitely a lot of odes to the the Dark Knight Returns, with people speaking about "the Batman" like a thing of the past and wondering if he'll ever come back.
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 11:05:13 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2012, 10:47:40 AM
SKO: Knightfall is a big part, but it also works in some Dark Knight Returns. And a really cool nod to Batman '66 with trying to dispose of a big round bomb.
Yeah, I meant to toss that in. He usually borrows major elements from two-three major storylines and then the rest is all of his genius finding a way to combine them and create something entirely new with them. Definitely a lot of odes to the the Dark Knight Returns, with people speaking about "the Batman" like a thing of the past and wondering if he'll ever come back.
You know, and the whole heroic death that isn't actually a death. That's from Returns, as well.
This is exactly what I wanted. I never really read the comics, or saw much batman beyond the Keaton movie, and the 90s versions, but I like hearing those who actually are knowledgeable about them to discuss it. Gracías
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Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2012, 10:47:40 AM
SKO: Knightfall is a big part, but it also works in some Dark Knight Returns. And a really cool nod to Batman '66 with trying to dispose of a big round bomb.
Yeah, I meant to toss that in. He usually borrows major elements from two-three major storylines and then the rest is all of his genius finding a way to combine them and create something entirely new with them. Definitely a lot of odes to the the Dark Knight Returns, with people speaking about "the Batman" like a thing of the past and wondering if he'll ever come back.
You know, and the whole heroic death that isn't actually a death. That's from Returns, as well.
Like Yeti, haven't read any of the comics. Is all of Nolan's source material Frank Miller/Alan Moore stuff?
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Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 11:05:13 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2012, 10:47:40 AM
SKO: Knightfall is a big part, but it also works in some Dark Knight Returns. And a really cool nod to Batman '66 with trying to dispose of a big round bomb.
Yeah, I meant to toss that in. He usually borrows major elements from two-three major storylines and then the rest is all of his genius finding a way to combine them and create something entirely new with them. Definitely a lot of odes to the the Dark Knight Returns, with people speaking about "the Batman" like a thing of the past and wondering if he'll ever come back.
You know, and the whole heroic death that isn't actually a death. That's from Returns, as well.
Like Yeti, haven't read any of the comics. Is all of Nolan's source material Frank Miller/Alan Moore stuff?
Some of it. He tends to incorporate elements and plot points from stories throughout the entire Batman universe. I wouldn't say he's more reliant on Moore or Miller than anyone else. Nolan's interpretation of Batman himself certainly is more reminiscent of Miller's, whereas I'd say Burton's was more the 1930s-1940s brooding detective Batman and Shumacker's was barely better than the campy 60s version. I would recommend to anyone who hasn't read the comics and wants to see where Nolan got a lot of his source material the following arcs or one shots, which are usually available in collected editions at bookstores or libraries:
Batman: Year One
The Long Halloween
The Killing Joke
The Dark Knight Returns
Knightfall
I'm guessing Bort or Slaky can fill in the ones I've left out, but those five stick out the most to me.
It's not a plot lift, but for tone and a willingness to re-design villains for a freestanding story, I think Nolan also read Grant Morrison & Dave McKean's Arkham Asylum.
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2012, 11:58:17 AM
It's not a plot lift, but for tone and a willingness to re-design villains for a freestanding story, I think Nolan also read Grant Morrison & Dave McKean's Arkham Asylum.
Your comment about the bomb being an homage to Batman '66 reminded me of how awesome the references to past Batman films were in this one. When Selina Kyle says "there's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne" and Arnold is there in his neon Mr. Freeze suit and says "and an icy wind is going to blow!" I shed a single tear. That's just great film making.
I enjoyed Batman's "So that's what that feels like" line. Also, Anne Hathaway looked crazy hot. I agree, Nolan should direct everything from now on.
Quote from: Sterling Archer on July 24, 2012, 09:41:16 AM
I enjoyed Batman's "So that's what that feels like" line. Also, Anne Hathaway looked crazy hot. I agree, Nolan should direct everything from now on.
I don't think she's hot at all but she did a nice job in the movie. To me she's the opposite of a lot of actresses who are attractive but absolutely horrible at acting. Like January Jones.
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2012, 11:58:17 AM
It's not a plot lift, but for tone and a willingness to re-design villains for a freestanding story, I think Nolan also read Grant Morrison & Dave McKean's Arkham Asylum.
Your comment about the bomb being an homage to Batman '66 reminded me of how awesome the references to past Batman films were in this one. When Selina Kyle says "there's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne" and Arnold is there in his neon Mr. Freeze suit and says "and an icy wind is going to blow!" I shed a single tear. That's just great film making.
Did you ever read No Man's Land? Gotham is hit by an earthquake then taken over by the criminals, so the government cuts off all the routes in and out and basically give up on the city. Jim Gordon, Batman, and allies struggle to maintain order. I completely forgot about it, but it was clearly an inspiration.
Quote from: Bort on July 24, 2012, 10:13:27 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2012, 11:58:17 AM
It's not a plot lift, but for tone and a willingness to re-design villains for a freestanding story, I think Nolan also read Grant Morrison & Dave McKean's Arkham Asylum.
Your comment about the bomb being an homage to Batman '66 reminded me of how awesome the references to past Batman films were in this one. When Selina Kyle says "there's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne" and Arnold is there in his neon Mr. Freeze suit and says "and an icy wind is going to blow!" I shed a single tear. That's just great film making.
Did you ever read No Man's Land? Gotham is hit by an earthquake then taken over by the criminals, so the government cuts off all the routes in and out and basically give up on the city. Jim Gordon, Batman, and allies struggle to maintain order. I completely forgot about it, but it was clearly an inspiration.
I read it. I was kind of hoping that's what would happen to Happy Valley.
Quote from: CT III on July 24, 2012, 10:18:06 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 24, 2012, 10:13:27 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 12:16:37 PM
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2012, 11:58:17 AM
It's not a plot lift, but for tone and a willingness to re-design villains for a freestanding story, I think Nolan also read Grant Morrison & Dave McKean's Arkham Asylum.
Your comment about the bomb being an homage to Batman '66 reminded me of how awesome the references to past Batman films were in this one. When Selina Kyle says "there's a storm coming, Mr. Wayne" and Arnold is there in his neon Mr. Freeze suit and says "and an icy wind is going to blow!" I shed a single tear. That's just great film making.
Did you ever read No Man's Land? Gotham is hit by an earthquake then taken over by the criminals, so the government cuts off all the routes in and out and basically give up on the city. Jim Gordon, Batman, and allies struggle to maintain order. I completely forgot about it, but it was clearly an inspiration.
I read it. I was kind of hoping that's what would happen to Happy Valley.
I've never read it. A friend of mine told me about it yesterday, though, and I now intend to borrow it from him. Anne Hathaway is hot. I now lose all of my cool points for opposing Slaky, but, God damn, I mean, that ass.
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 10:27:17 AM
Quote from: Slaky on July 23, 2012, 10:18:45 AM
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Quote from: Tollbooth Yeti on July 23, 2012, 08:29:59 AMSo, have enough seen it to discuss what happens?
Yes. SKO and Slaky are right, it was the balls. No point in responding to Chuck.
The initial fight between Batman and Bane was just brutal. And although you knew he was going to make the leap in the prison, it didn't make it any less satisfying when it happened. The one quibble my wife had was how Batman got back into Gotham so easily what with it being entirely cut off. It took me a minute but then I realized: it's because he's fucking Batman.
It sucks that Ledger died after the last one. Considering that there were callbacks to basically every major character from the first two, you just have to think he would have been involved somehow.
SPOILER ALERT
Nah. It'd be impossible to involve the Joker in that one and not make it his show. I love Christopher Nolan because he based all three movies off of my favorite Batman story arcs and yet went way beyond the original material so I had no idea what would happen. Batman Begins was based on Batman: Year One, while The Dark Knight combined The Long Halloween and The Killing Joke. This one was Knightfall. I spent the entire movie waiting for Bane to break his back. When it happened I was somehow still shocked and traumatized. The ending of this film was beyond satisfying. I'd have been perfectly content had he lived or died, since he pulled off both so well.
Well said. It would have been cool if they included the venom that made Bane grow when he was ready to kick ass but Bane has to be one of the best villains I've seen in a long time. He was truly frightening. When Batman began winning that rematch and finally broke his mask with a punch I was ready to cheer like it was some kind of walk-off home run. So bad ass.
If someone has the guts to make a Batman with JGL as Robin and maybe loosely base it on older Batman or even Batman Beyond, it could be pretty cool.
I mean, every so often it seems that these series reboot - like Spider-Man this year - but how can you reboot Batman knowing the Herculean effort it would take to even come close to being as good as this trilogy? What's the point?
The good news for me, as a video game dork, is that as long as they keep making the Arkham Asylum/City games it's almost like the series can never die. If you truly can't get enough Batman - I suggest you pick up both games. It's all of the voices from Batman: The Animated Series (which fucking owns) and the art and storylines are dark, epic and creepy as fuck. They do tons of callbacks and include as many characters as possible. Rumors are the next game is going to use Gotham City as a sandbox environment and the game will be more do whatever you want than ever before.
Anyway, I'm going to go read my Batman books again.
Batman!
Batman: The Animated Series is so fucking good. I was four when it first started, so I never got much beyond HEY BATMAN during the original run. My friend owns them all and Mask of the Phantasm on DVD and insisted I watch them again a few years ago. Utterly brilliant. I respect the Burton films, but Mask of the Phantasm is the best non-Nolan Batman film. Period.
Also, Slak, I actually fist pumped when he broke Bane's mask, so you can decide whether that makes you awesome or lame in my company. I'll also cop to real, human tears from the moment he bid farewell to Gordon by mentioning the coat from the first movie right up until the end.
Why can't Christopher Nolan make every movie ever?
Because he'd then have to be responsible for the Twilight franchise.
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 11:42:19 AM
Quote from: R-V on July 23, 2012, 11:22:41 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 23, 2012, 11:05:13 AM
Quote from: Bort on July 23, 2012, 10:47:40 AM
SKO: Knightfall is a big part, but it also works in some Dark Knight Returns. And a really cool nod to Batman '66 with trying to dispose of a big round bomb.
Yeah, I meant to toss that in. He usually borrows major elements from two-three major storylines and then the rest is all of his genius finding a way to combine them and create something entirely new with them. Definitely a lot of odes to the the Dark Knight Returns, with people speaking about "the Batman" like a thing of the past and wondering if he'll ever come back.
You know, and the whole heroic death that isn't actually a death. That's from Returns, as well.
Like Yeti, haven't read any of the comics. Is all of Nolan's source material Frank Miller/Alan Moore stuff?
Some of it. He tends to incorporate elements and plot points from stories throughout the entire Batman universe. I wouldn't say he's more reliant on Moore or Miller than anyone else. Nolan's interpretation of Batman himself certainly is more reminiscent of Miller's, whereas I'd say Burton's was more the 1930s-1940s brooding detective Batman and Shumacker's was barely better than the campy 60s version. I would recommend to anyone who hasn't read the comics and wants to see where Nolan got a lot of his source material the following arcs or one shots, which are usually available in collected editions at bookstores or libraries:
Batman: Year One
The Long Halloween
The Killing Joke
The Dark Knight Returns
Knightfall
I'm guessing Bort or Slaky can fill in the ones I've left out, but those five stick out the most to me.
Also No Man's Land.
/edit FACED by Bort.
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
I now lose all of my cool points for opposing Slaky
Slaky is all the things you could only hope to be.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/wvrekn.jpg)
(Bravo, Morph)
Anyway, just got back from the cinema. I chuckled all the way home. Shit, what a fucking phenomenal film - the best of the three, I'd say, and the ending just fucking blew me away, even if I saw some of it coming. I sincerely hope they can persuade Nolan and the current cast (including JGL, clearly) to make one more...
Quote from: Tonker on July 24, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
Anyway, just got back from the cinema. I chuckled all the way home. Shit, what a fucking phenomenal film - the best of the three, I'd say, and the ending just fucking blew me away, even if I saw some of it coming. I sincerely hope they can persuade Nolan and the current cast (including JGL, clearly) to make one more...
I don't. JGL and the rest can certainly make a new series that, like Slak suggested, has a Batman Beyond type storyline, but let Bruce Wayne be. That ending was too fucking satisfying as a lifelong reader of Batman to mess with. Bringing him back would be just like the comics, where every satisfying Bruce Wayne dies/walks away/retires storyline is pissed on by fanboys who can't accept a Batman that isn't him. Nolan pulled off a nigh impossible task and I don't think he'll fuck it up. I think Nolan said he's done anyway.
If someone who is Nolan-approved takes JGL and makes a successful series I'll be right there of course.
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2012, 04:41:41 PM
Quote from: Tonker on July 24, 2012, 04:08:51 PM
Anyway, just got back from the cinema. I chuckled all the way home. Shit, what a fucking phenomenal film - the best of the three, I'd say, and the ending just fucking blew me away, even if I saw some of it coming. I sincerely hope they can persuade Nolan and the current cast (including JGL, clearly) to make one more...
I don't. JGL and the rest can certainly make a new series that, like Slak suggested, has a Batman Beyond type storyline, but let Bruce Wayne be. That ending was too fucking satisfying as a lifelong reader of Batman to mess with. Bringing him back would be just like the comics, where every satisfying Bruce Wayne dies/walks away/retires storyline is pissed on by fanboys who can't accept a Batman that isn't him. Nolan pulled off a nigh impossible task and I don't think he'll fuck it up. I think Nolan said he's done anyway.
If someone who is Nolan-approved takes JGL and makes a successful series I'll be right there of course.
Hear me out: a live action Bayman Beyond movie with Adam West as the elderly Bruce Wayne.
Quote from: Fork on July 24, 2012, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
I now lose all of my cool points for opposing Slaky
Slaky is all the things you could only hope to be.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/wvrekn.jpg)
(Bravo, Morph)
Good god.
Quote from: Slaky on July 24, 2012, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: Fork on July 24, 2012, 02:42:08 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 24, 2012, 12:05:40 PM
I now lose all of my cool points for opposing Slaky
Slaky is all the things you could only hope to be.
(http://i50.tinypic.com/wvrekn.jpg)
(Bravo, Morph)
Good godDAMNIT, MARIE!
There are days when I love this site.
This is real? (http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/a-guide-to-the-dark-world-of-the-james-holmes-inte)
What the fuck. (http://gawker.com/5930565/?comment=51441365)
As for the showdown between Batman and Bain---two finely trained fighting machines, yet they were toe to toe throwing punches to the head with about as much finesse as any end zone brawl between a 49'er fan and a Raider fan.