I guess the one bright side here is that his .919 career OPS against the Cubs can't hurt the team the rest of the way.
I hope he's hit by a hard fastball and dies.
Quote from: Bort on August 21, 2018, 03:23:54 PM
I hope he's hit by a hard fastball and dies.
...with the bases loaded in a post season series deciding situation. Make it count for something, amiright?
I would like him to recant his homophobic comments and say he's changed his views, but that's probably too much to hope for. Still though. I'd rather root for him than hate him.
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I hope he's hit by a hard fastball and dies.
...with the bases loaded in a post season series deciding situation. Make it count for something, amiright?
Nah. First pitch. Meaningless, brutal, and short. Fuck that guy forever.
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I hope he's hit by a hard fastball and dies.
...with the bases loaded in a post season series deciding situation. Make it count for something, amiright?
Nah. First pitch. Meaningless, brutal, and short. Fuck that guy forever.
I get that if Murphy strikes out or boots one in a big situation you will have indescribable hatred for him—as most of us will—but rooting for him to fail seems at odds with rooting for your favorite team to win here.
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I hope he's hit by a hard fastball and dies.
...with the bases loaded in a post season series deciding situation. Make it count for something, amiright?
Nah. First pitch. Meaningless, brutal, and short. Fuck that guy forever.
I get that if Murphy strikes out or boots one in a big situation you will have indescribable hatred for him—as most of us will—but rooting for him to fail seems at odds with rooting for your favorite team to win here.
. No. I'm rooting for him to die on his first Cub AB. Then he is not on the team. He is a homophobic piece of shit.
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I hope he's hit by a hard fastball and dies.
...with the bases loaded in a post season series deciding situation. Make it count for something, amiright?
Nah. First pitch. Meaningless, brutal, and short. Fuck that guy forever.
I get that if Murphy strikes out or boots one in a big situation you will have indescribable hatred for him—as most of us will—but rooting for him to fail seems at odds with rooting for your favorite team to win here.
. No. I'm rooting for him to die on his first Cub AB. Then he is not on the team. He is a homophobic piece of shit.
Honest question--is it Murphy's self-assured confidence to express his abhorrent views that makes him stand out from a pool of people who--at least the American-born--are probably 90% Trumpers, many of whom may share the same views? Because I feel safe to assume Steve Cishek holds the same views, but Cishek might just be smart enough to know he'd get roasted if he expressed them.
You know a lot of the guys that you root for happen to agree with Murphy, so I'm just wondering if it's his blindingly proud ability to express his idiocy that makes him a particularly shitty human being.
For what it's worth I think he's a backwards-assed weirdo whose views are increasingly diminished and rightfully edified, compared to 50, 40, even 5 years ago (that's the idea of an antiquated idea becoming increasingly diminished I guess). I also don't think idiot baseball players truly have much influence over the collective consciousness of this country and as long as this weirdo is playing for the Cubs I hope he does well and helps them win.
Honest answer: I don't care. Fuck him. I hope he literally dies.
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I hope he's hit by a hard fastball and dies.
...with the bases loaded in a post season series deciding situation. Make it count for something, amiright?
Nah. First pitch. Meaningless, brutal, and short. Fuck that guy forever.
I get that if Murphy strikes out or boots one in a big situation you will have indescribable hatred for him—as most of us will—but rooting for him to fail seems at odds with rooting for your favorite team to win here.
. No. I'm rooting for him to die on his first Cub AB. Then he is not on the team. He is a homophobic piece of shit.
Honest question--is it Murphy's self-assured confidence to express his abhorrent views that makes him stand out from a pool of people who--at least the American-born--are probably 90% Trumpers, many of whom may share the same views? Because I feel safe to assume Steve Cishek holds the same views, but Cishek might just be smart enough to know he'd get roasted if he expressed them. You know a lot of the guys that you root for happen to agree with Murphy, so I'm just wondering if it's his blindingly proud ability to express his idiocy that makes him a particularly shitty human being.
For what it's worth I think he's a backwards-assed weirdo whose views are increasingly diminished and rightfully edified, compared to 50, 40, even 5 years ago (that's the idea of an antiquated idea becoming increasingly diminished I guess). I also don't think idiot baseball players truly have much influence over the collective consciousness of this country and as long as this weirdo is playing for the Cubs I hope he does well and helps them win.
If people hold homophobic views and decide not to express them in any way, well, that's about the best I can hope for from them. I can't change what's in their heads but I can expect them not to spew that fucking filth all over me. If people hold those views AND think the rest of the World needs to hear them, though, well... fuck Daniel Murphy. Man, what a cunt.
Cubs' Twitter and the meatballs on BROO SMILES' comments not understanding that belonging to an LGBTQ minority ISN'T A FUCKING "LIFESTYLE" ANY MORE THAN BEING BLACK IS A LIFESTYLE (although I'm guessing most of them think those damn blacks need to smarten up, too) isn't helping my mood, either.
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I hope he's hit by a hard fastball and dies.
...with the bases loaded in a post season series deciding situation. Make it count for something, amiright?
Nah. First pitch. Meaningless, brutal, and short. Fuck that guy forever.
I get that if Murphy strikes out or boots one in a big situation you will have indescribable hatred for him—as most of us will—but rooting for him to fail seems at odds with rooting for your favorite team to win here.
. No. I'm rooting for him to die on his first Cub AB. Then he is not on the team. He is a homophobic piece of shit.
Honest question--is it Murphy's self-assured confidence to express his abhorrent views that makes him stand out from a pool of people who--at least the American-born--are probably 90% Trumpers, many of whom may share the same views? Because I feel safe to assume Steve Cishek holds the same views, but Cishek might just be smart enough to know he'd get roasted if he expressed them. You know a lot of the guys that you root for happen to agree with Murphy, so I'm just wondering if it's his blindingly proud ability to express his idiocy that makes him a particularly shitty human being.
For what it's worth I think he's a backwards-assed weirdo whose views are increasingly diminished and rightfully edified, compared to 50, 40, even 5 years ago (that's the idea of an antiquated idea becoming increasingly diminished I guess). I also don't think idiot baseball players truly have much influence over the collective consciousness of this country and as long as this weirdo is playing for the Cubs I hope he does well and helps them win.
If people hold homophobic views and decide not to express them in any way, well, that's about the best I can hope for from them. I can't change what's in their heads but I can expect them not to spew that fucking filth all over me. If people hold those views AND think the rest of the World needs to hear them, though, well... fuck Daniel Murphy. Man, what a cunt.
Cubs' Twitter and the meatballs on BROO SMILES' comments not understanding that belonging to an LGBTQ minority ISN'T A FUCKING "LIFESTYLE" ANY MORE THAN BEING BLACK IS A LIFESTYLE (although I'm guessing most of them think those damn blacks need to smarten up, too) isn't helping my mood, either.
Phrasing
I think there a couple of things here.
1. Fuck humans. We are fallible but think we're not. There are no heroes and there shouldn't be. We all suck.
2. I'm not going to stop enjoying the Cubs sprint to another WS so, as with Chapman, how do I best make myself feel better about rooting for a fucking feckless cunt like Murphy. I don't have any misconception that anything I do is to make myself feel better about it. Basically, I've decided that the best way to do that is by giving a little bit of cash to an LGBTQ organization and I can root for this fuckwad with a less tortured conscience. Like Huey said in a Tweet, this can get fucking exhausting. If a small amount of disposable income can go to an organization and I can feel a bit better about it, so be it. There is nothing altruistic about it and I fully realize and admit that.
So be it.
I do enjoy the fact that Daniel Murphy is now playing for a team that has an openly gay woman as part of the ownership group.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 22, 2018, 10:36:01 AM
I do enjoy the fact that Daniel Murphy is now playing for a team that has an openly gay woman as part of the ownership group.
I'll take sophomoric satisfaction in calling him a cub, even if he's
not particularly small, or young (he
does seem pretty hairy though).
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I do enjoy the fact that Daniel Murphy is now playing for a team that has an openly gay woman as part of the ownership group.
I'll take sophomoric satisfaction in calling him a cub, even if he's not particularly small, or young (he does seem pretty hairy though).
He probably hits the Eagle during the offseason.
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I do enjoy the fact that Daniel Murphy is now playing for a team that has an openly gay woman as part of the ownership group.
I'll take sophomoric satisfaction in calling him a cub, even if he's not particularly small, or young (he does seem pretty hairy though).
He probably hits the Eagle during the offseason.
TIME TO POST!
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I hope he's hit by a hard fastball and dies.
...with the bases loaded in a post season series deciding situation. Make it count for something, amiright?
Nah. First pitch. Meaningless, brutal, and short. Fuck that guy forever.
I get that if Murphy strikes out or boots one in a big situation you will have indescribable hatred for him—as most of us will—but rooting for him to fail seems at odds with rooting for your favorite team to win here.
. No. I'm rooting for him to die on his first Cub AB. Then he is not on the team. He is a homophobic piece of shit.
Honest question--is it Murphy's self-assured confidence to express his abhorrent views that makes him stand out from a pool of people who--at least the American-born--are probably 90% Trumpers, many of whom may share the same views? Because I feel safe to assume Steve Cishek holds the same views, but Cishek might just be smart enough to know he'd get roasted if he expressed them. You know a lot of the guys that you root for happen to agree with Murphy, so I'm just wondering if it's his blindingly proud ability to express his idiocy that makes him a particularly shitty human being.
For what it's worth I think he's a backwards-assed weirdo whose views are increasingly diminished and rightfully edified, compared to 50, 40, even 5 years ago (that's the idea of an antiquated idea becoming increasingly diminished I guess). I also don't think idiot baseball players truly have much influence over the collective consciousness of this country and as long as this weirdo is playing for the Cubs I hope he does well and helps them win.
If people hold homophobic views and decide not to express them in any way, well, that's about the best I can hope for from them. I can't change what's in their heads but I can expect them not to spew that fucking filth all over me. If people hold those views AND think the rest of the World needs to hear them, though, well... fuck Daniel Murphy. Man, what a cunt.
Cubs' Twitter and the meatballs on BROO SMILES' comments not understanding that belonging to an LGBTQ minority ISN'T A FUCKING "LIFESTYLE" ANY MORE THAN BEING BLACK IS A LIFESTYLE (although I'm guessing most of them think those damn blacks need to smarten up, too) isn't helping my mood, either.
See, I have the tendency to disagree. My outlook is that there are reprehensible people everywhere, and there always will be. I don't want those people to feel empowered, because if they are, they do horrible things, but I don't want them to be silenced, either. I want to know who's a homophobe, or a white supremacist. I want them to live in a society where they feel they can share that information. Because if I know that about them, then that means I can and will stay away from them. If they keep it quiet, then that means I could be close with a bigoted neighbour. My kid might play with his kids. And that, to me, is more unacceptable than if my neighbour shoots off his mouth about his idiotic beliefs.
So if your neighbor is a bigot then your kids can't play with his kids?
Quote from: flannj on August 23, 2018, 03:06:27 PM
So if your neighbor is a bigot then your kids can't play with his kids?
It's "bigout" in Canada.
Quote from: flannj on August 23, 2018, 03:06:27 PM
So if your neighbor is a bigot then your kids can't play with his kids?
Correct.
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So if your neighbor is a bigot then your kids can't play with his kids?
Correct.
That doesn't seem excessive at all.
I don't particularly want my kids hanging around in the houses of bigots either, tbqh.
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2018, 08:32:48 AM
I don't particularly want my kids hanging around in the houses of bigots either, tbqh.
Bigotry is a taught condition - so if mom and/or dad are bigots, the kids most likely will be too.
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I don't particularly want my kids hanging around in the houses of bigots either, tbqh.
Bigotry is a taught condition - so if mom and/or dad are bigots, the kids most likely will be too.
And if they aren't, it's still a thing where I'm gonna 24/7 wonder what this fucker is saying around my kid if he hangs out there.
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I don't particularly want my kids hanging around in the houses of bigots either, tbqh.
Bigotry is a taught condition - so if mom and/or dad are bigots, the kids most likely will be too.
And even if they're smart enough to not actively broadcast it to the world, I have little doubt that things would be said on a regular basis within their home that I would not want my son to hear. Particularly because, from his perspective, they're thoughts and ideas coming from people he trusts - his friends, their parents. I'm not saying they'd turn my kid racist, but as a kid, he'd certainly be inclined to try those ideas on for size. Maybe he'd repeat them at home. Maybe he'd direct them toward a friend at school. If he did either, nobody would assume it was language or ideas he picked up from a neighbor. And what I don't want to experience is that sickening drop in my stomach when I realize he's heard these things, mulled them over enough to keep those things in his mind, and is now repeating them to myself or others.
I mean, for perspective flannj, you're interacting on a forum with people who actively advocate for the punching of fascists. I'm just saying, I don't want my kid playing with them. It's not excessive. I don't even want him spending a lot of time around kids who eat their own boogers, because I'm afraid he'll think
that is a good idea.
What difference does it make if I have kids?
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What difference does it make if I have kids?
It makes a difference.
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What difference does it make if I have kids?
It makes a difference.
Oh. then I guess I shouldn't comment anymore.
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What difference does it make if I have kids?
It makes a difference.
Oh. then I guess I shouldn't comment anymore.
I'll edify Kurt by informing him that flannj's eldest is much closer to Kurt's age than he is to Kurt's son.
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What difference does it make if I have kids?
It makes a difference.
Oh. then I guess I shouldn't comment anymore.
I'll edify Kurt by informing him that flannj's eldest is much closer to Kurt's age than he is to Kurt's son.
I've lost the thread here. Are we having some sort of hypothetical discussion or are there Desipiots who subscribe to Daniel Murphy's newsletter?
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What difference does it make if I have kids?
It makes a difference.
Oh. then I guess I shouldn't comment anymore.
I'll edify Kurt by informing him that flannj's eldest is much closer to Kurt's age than he is to Kurt's son.
Thanks for that. I'm not surprised that flannj has a kid - I'm just surprised that I have to explain that people don't understand parenting until they have to do it. It's exhausting and stressful, even at the best of times. You want everything to be as perfect for your kid as possible, knowing full well that life is a shitshow and there are unexpected issues, always. Protecting your kid from racists seems to me to be a no-brainer.
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What difference does it make if I have kids?
It makes a difference.
Oh. then I guess I shouldn't comment anymore.
I'll edify Kurt by informing him that flannj's eldest is much closer to Kurt's age than he is to Kurt's son.
Thanks for that. I'm not surprised that flannj has a kid - I'm just surprised that I have to explain that people don't understand parenting until they have to do it. It's exhausting and stressful, even at the best of times. You want everything to be as perfect for your kid as possible, knowing full well that life is a shitshow and there are unexpected issues, always. Protecting your kid from racists seems to me to be a no-brainer.
I have three of them and you're a self centered idiot.
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Quote from: flannj on August 24, 2018, 10:28:12 AM
What difference does it make if I have kids?
It makes a difference.
Oh. then I guess I shouldn't comment anymore.
I'll edify Kurt by informing him that flannj's eldest is much closer to Kurt's age than he is to Kurt's son.
Thanks for that. I'm not surprised that flannj has a kid - I'm just surprised that I have to explain that people don't understand parenting until they have to do it. It's exhausting and stressful, even at the best of times. You want everything to be as perfect for your kid as possible, knowing full well that life is a shitshow and there are unexpected issues, always. Protecting your kid from racists seems to me to be a no-brainer.
I have three of them and you're a self centered idiot.
Okay.
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I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
No, it's better to send them out in the world dressed in bubble wrap.
They'll get along just fine.
But I would only know this because I have kids. Which makes me some sort of expert because it's "different".
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
I think it's high time HTonklet gets an account on here.
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Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
I think it's high time HTonklet gets an account on here.
It's really not. He'd just spam the board with the endless stream of Youtube videos that he thinks are high-larious and which never, EVER cause me even the slightest amusement. His favourite at the moment is a clip of Penn Gillette yelling at a Chihuahua. Kids these days, eh?
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Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
No, it's better to send them out in the world dressed in bubble wrap.
They'll get along just fine.
But I would only know this because I have kids. Which makes me some sort of expert because it's "different".
Pretty passive aggressive of you. It's not a black and white, "if not this, then THAT" issue.
The whole point is communication with your kids. "Dad, why don't you let me play with ______?" "Well, their family doesn't like people like your aunt, just because she's gay. They have a lot of hatred for people like her, and we want them to know it's not ok with us so we don't pretend like they're our friends."
See, I don't subscribe to the "punch a nazi" mentality. I subscribe to the "ostracize a nazi" mentality instead. You want to be my friend? Don't be a racist/bigot/whatever. I'm not saying it's a perfect solution, but it's the one I'm comfortable with personally. I'm not going to teach my kid that his friends can be racist or bigoted. I'm really sorry if that's something you can't agree with.
Edited to add: and yes, I will take a parent's opinion on parenting over a non-parent literally every time. Is it so hard to believe that people without kids can't fully grasp what it's like to have kids?
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Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
No, it's better to send them out in the world dressed in bubble wrap.
They'll get along just fine.
But I would only know this because I have kids. Which makes me some sort of expert because it's "different".
Pretty passive aggressive of you. It's not a black and white, "if not this, then THAT" issue.
The whole point is communication with your kids. "Dad, why don't you let me play with ______?" "Well, their family doesn't like people like your aunt, just because she's gay. They have a lot of hatred for people like her, and we want them to know it's not ok with us so we don't pretend like they're our friends."
See, I don't subscribe to the "punch a nazi" mentality. I subscribe to the "ostracize a nazi" mentality instead. You want to be my friend? Don't be a racist/bigot/whatever. I'm not saying it's a perfect solution, but it's the one I'm comfortable with personally. I'm not going to teach my kid that his friends can be racist or bigoted. I'm really sorry if that's something you can't agree with.
Edited to add: and yes, I will take a parent's opinion on parenting over a non-parent literally every time. Is it so hard to believe that people without kids can't fully grasp what it's like to have kids?
So the kids lose on both sides.
That'll fix things.
And your comment about "non-parents" is incredibly and insultingly dismissive.
Fully grasp? That's as closed minded as the the bigots you are so worried about.
Quote from: flannj on August 24, 2018, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 24, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 24, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
No, it's better to send them out in the world dressed in bubble wrap.
They'll get along just fine.
But I would only know this because I have kids. Which makes me some sort of expert because it's "different".
Pretty passive aggressive of you. It's not a black and white, "if not this, then THAT" issue.
The whole point is communication with your kids. "Dad, why don't you let me play with ______?" "Well, their family doesn't like people like your aunt, just because she's gay. They have a lot of hatred for people like her, and we want them to know it's not ok with us so we don't pretend like they're our friends."
See, I don't subscribe to the "punch a nazi" mentality. I subscribe to the "ostracize a nazi" mentality instead. You want to be my friend? Don't be a racist/bigot/whatever. I'm not saying it's a perfect solution, but it's the one I'm comfortable with personally. I'm not going to teach my kid that his friends can be racist or bigoted. I'm really sorry if that's something you can't agree with.
Edited to add: and yes, I will take a parent's opinion on parenting over a non-parent literally every time. Is it so hard to believe that people without kids can't fully grasp what it's like to have kids?
So the kids lose on both sides.
That'll fix things.
And your comment about "non-parents" is incredibly and insultingly dismissive.
Fully grasp? That's as closed minded as the the bigots you are so worried about.
Okay.
Quote from: Canadouche on August 24, 2018, 03:37:58 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 24, 2018, 03:35:52 PM
Quote from: Canadouche on August 24, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: flannj on August 24, 2018, 02:57:43 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
No, it's better to send them out in the world dressed in bubble wrap.
They'll get along just fine.
But I would only know this because I have kids. Which makes me some sort of expert because it's "different".
Pretty passive aggressive of you. It's not a black and white, "if not this, then THAT" issue.
The whole point is communication with your kids. "Dad, why don't you let me play with ______?" "Well, their family doesn't like people like your aunt, just because she's gay. They have a lot of hatred for people like her, and we want them to know it's not ok with us so we don't pretend like they're our friends."
See, I don't subscribe to the "punch a nazi" mentality. I subscribe to the "ostracize a nazi" mentality instead. You want to be my friend? Don't be a racist/bigot/whatever. I'm not saying it's a perfect solution, but it's the one I'm comfortable with personally. I'm not going to teach my kid that his friends can be racist or bigoted. I'm really sorry if that's something you can't agree with.
Edited to add: and yes, I will take a parent's opinion on parenting over a non-parent literally every time. Is it so hard to believe that people without kids can't fully grasp what it's like to have kids?
So the kids lose on both sides.
That'll fix things.
And your comment about "non-parents" is incredibly and insultingly dismissive.
Fully grasp? That's as closed minded as the the bigots you are so worried about.
Okay.
Pretty passive aggressive here imo
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
I think it's high time HTonklet gets an account on here.
It's really not. He'd just spam the board with the endless stream of Youtube videos that he thinks are high-larious and which never, EVER cause me even the slightest amusement. His favourite at the moment is a clip of Penn Gillette yelling at a Chihuahua. Kids these days, eh?
We have a thread somewhere around here that's filled with youtube links no one ever clicked on, so that really wouldn't matter.
Anyway, bump for a go-ahead homer or whatever.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 24, 2018, 03:49:15 PM
Anyway, bump for a go-ahead homer or whatever.
(that held up for all of five minutes)
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
I think it's high time HTonklet gets an account on here.
It's really not. He'd just spam the board with the endless stream of Youtube videos that he thinks are high-larious and which never, EVER cause me even the slightest amusement. His favourite at the moment is a clip of Penn Gillette yelling at a Chihuahua. Kids these days, eh?
What is not funny about yelling at a Chihuahua? Anything involving a Chihuahua is automatically funny.
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
I think it's high time HTonklet gets an account on here.
It's really not. He'd just spam the board with the endless stream of Youtube videos that he thinks are high-larious and which never, EVER cause me even the slightest amusement. His favourite at the moment is a clip of Penn Gillette yelling at a Chihuahua. Kids these days, eh?
Me nodding and wondering what on earth HawkJr finds funny about the you tube videos on my feed (as we share an account).
Nazis getting punched is good and proper.
I hated Snork for far less, so Daniel Murphy can pound sand.
I don't care who is a parent and who isn't.
YouTube is a weird cesspit once children are involved in any way.
There. I'm caught up.
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 03:15:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on August 24, 2018, 03:03:19 PM
Quote from: Tonker on August 24, 2018, 02:49:36 PM
I have no wish to try to shelter my kids from any of that shit - largely because, try as I might, I am guaranteed to fail. Indeed, there is more or less nothing from which STonk and I shelter the Tonklets - we are honest and open with them about pretty much everything, and actively encourage them to ask questions about even the most difficult or embarrassing topics. The funny thing is, those topics then become not difficult or embarrassing any more, and they're informed enough to deal with them when they do inevitably come up outside the home. I am also quite happy for my kids to come into contact with any kind of bigot, because I've discussed with them at length why that shit is wrong and trust them implicitly not to pay the slightest bit of attention to any of it.
My kids also know ALL the swear words and although they are not allowed to use them in polite company, I would much rather they learned them from me than from some other cunt.
I think it's high time HTonklet gets an account on here.
It's really not. He'd just spam the board with the endless stream of Youtube videos that he thinks are high-larious and which never, EVER cause me even the slightest amusement. His favourite at the moment is a clip of Penn Gillette yelling at a Chihuahua. Kids these days, eh?
You could confine him to How Ya Crappin'.
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Nazis getting punched is good and proper.
I hated Snork for far less, so Daniel Murphy can pound sand.
I don't care who is a parent and who isn't.
YouTube is a weird cesspit once children are involved in any way.
There. I'm caught up.
I want to second all of this except the children part because I don't have any and, therefore, would have no concept of what they're like. Also, I think you have to have met at least 100 children to have any idea about what you're talking about.
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Nazis getting punched is good and proper.
I hated Snork for far less, so Daniel Murphy can pound sand.
I don't care who is a parent and who isn't.
YouTube is a weird cesspit once children are involved in any way.
There. I'm caught up.
New Kids On The Block had a bunch of hits.
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Nazis getting punched is good and proper.
I hated Snork for far less, so Daniel Murphy can pound sand.
I don't care who is a parent and who isn't.
YouTube is a weird cesspit once children are involved in any way.
There. I'm caught up.
I want to second all of this except the children part because I don't have any and, therefore, would have no concept of what they're like. Also, I think you have to have met at least 100 children to have any idea about what you're talking about.
I just meant in general.
Quote from: Bort on August 27, 2018, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Nazis getting punched is good and proper.
I hated Snork for far less, so Daniel Murphy can pound sand.
I don't care who is a parent and who isn't.
YouTube is a weird cesspit once children are involved in any way.
There. I'm caught up.
I want to second all of this except the children part because I don't have any and, therefore, would have no concept of what they're like. Also, I think you have to have met at least 100 children to have any idea about what you're talking about.
I just meant in general.
I was just making a clumsy 'must watch a team/player for 100 games' joke.
Quote from: Oleg on August 28, 2018, 08:56:05 AM
Quote from: Bort on August 27, 2018, 03:57:24 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Nazis getting punched is good and proper.
I hated Snork for far less, so Daniel Murphy can pound sand.
I don't care who is a parent and who isn't.
YouTube is a weird cesspit once children are involved in any way.
There. I'm caught up.
I want to second all of this except the children part because I don't have any and, therefore, would have no concept of what they're like. Also, I think you have to have met at least 100 children to have any idea about what you're talking about.
I just meant in general.
I was just making a clumsy 'must watch a team/player for 100 games' joke.
I actually feel shame for missing that.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/chicago-cubs-player-daniel-murphys-homophobic-comments.html
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Nazis getting punched is good and proper.
I hated Snork for far less, so Daniel Murphy can pound sand.
I don't care who is a parent and who isn't.
YouTube is a weird cesspit once children are involved in any way.
There. I'm caught up.
I want to second all of this except the children part because I don't have any and, therefore, would have no concept of what they're like. Also, I think you have to have met at least 100 children to have any idea about what you're talking about.
Diapers I could do, but those nasty little nails creep me out.
Quote from: Wheezer on August 29, 2018, 11:37:01 PM
Quote from: Oleg on August 27, 2018, 12:32:20 PM
Quote from: Bort on August 24, 2018, 09:53:57 PM
Nazis getting punched is good and proper.
I hated Snork for far less, so Daniel Murphy can pound sand.
I don't care who is a parent and who isn't.
YouTube is a weird cesspit once children are involved in any way.
There. I'm caught up.
I want to second all of this except the children part because I don't have any and, therefore, would have no concept of what they're like. Also, I think you have to have met at least 100 children to have any idea about what you're talking about.
Diapers I could do, but those nasty little nails creep me out.
I hate that part.