Since the division title is a fait accompli, I figured we could pop the top off this thread. Though the Cubs won't be playing their first postseason game for 4 weeks, there's already begun plenty of talk about who makes the playoff 25-man roster and who gets left holding their dicks in their hands, so I figured that's as good of a place to start as any.
Sure things:
C Contreras
C Ross
IF Rizzo
IF Zobrist
IF Baez
IF Russell
IF Bryant
OF Heyward
OF Fowler
OF Soler
SP Lester
SP Hendricks
SP Arrieta
SP Lackey
RP Chapman
RP Rondon
RP Strop
RP Edwards
RP Grimm
RP Montgomery
RP Wood
That's 21 sure bets (some may quibble with Wood considering how he's pitched the last month but if Maddon's going to (rightfully) use him as a LOOGY then I figure he's a sure thing).
Of those 21 spots that's 10 position players and 11 pitchers, leaving 4 roster spots. These spots will be dictated by whether they go with 12 pitchers (likely) or 13 (hard to figure the need) or stay with 11 (unlikely).
If they're going with 12 pitchers, that means there's room for 3 position players.
First the extra pitcher spot. Here are the candidates:
Hammel
Cahill
Joe Smith
Rob Zastrihoweverthefuckyouspellit
If they are going with 12 pitchers, then that leaves 3 spots for the following position players:
Szczur
Almora
LaStella
Coghlan
Montero
Personally, I think Szczur and LaStella make the cut, which brings the last spot down to Almora, Coghlan, and Montero. If they feel they need another lefty bat then the decision comes down to Coghlan and Montero and I would prefer Montero--Miggy looks like he may yet prove to be useful with the bat and Coghlan does nothing for me. OTOH if Joe would prefer to punt on the 2nd lefty bat and go with defense, then it'd be Almora.
As of today, if they do go with 12 pitchers, I think I'd take Joe Smith, who's been much better since coming back.
This formula could change if they elect to just go with 11 pitchers, in which I imagine Almora and a second lefty bat make the cut.
Roster configuration can very well change from the LDS to LCS. It's possible that they go with 11 pitchers for the LDS and 12 for the LCS, which would have a ripple effect on the position players.
Discuss!
Your lack of faith in Kawasaki is disturbing.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 07, 2016, 01:20:36 PM
Your lack of faith in Kawasaki is disturbing.
Ha...I like looking at Muni because he's so damn hilariously cartoon-like in appearance.
But seriously, that guy's got as much of a chance to make the postseason roster as Oscar Tavares does of making the Cardinals' postseason roster.
Scott Lindholm on Twitter pointed out, in passing, that the Cubs went with 11 pitchers last postseason, and I heard the same thing on the radio this morning. This news is perfect timing for me as Joe Smith went back to instilling doubt into his effectiveness when he served up an utter bomb to a middle infielder who will struggle to finish with 15 HR's on the season.
So if the Cubs do go with 14 position players, then I think Albert Almora and his precious glove may well in fact make the cut.
Also, in addition to seeing Smith shit the tub again, I was actually glad to see Coghlan repeatedly hit the ball like an enfeebled terminal cancer patient. I'm hardly in love with Montero but if there's room for 1 last lefty bat I would much prefer it be Miggy Monty than Coghlan--particularly since Montero himself may recently have shown signs of life with the bat.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 08, 2016, 09:19:22 AM
Scott Lindholm on Twitter pointed out, in passing, that the Cubs went with 11 pitchers last postseason, and I heard the same thing on the radio this morning. This news is perfect timing for me as Joe Smith went back to instilling doubt into his effectiveness when he served up an utter bomb to a middle infielder who will struggle to finish with 15 HR's on the season.
So if the Cubs do go with 14 position players, then I think Albert Almora and his precious glove may well in fact make the cut.
Also, in addition to seeing Smith shit the tub again, I was actually glad to see Coghlan repeatedly hit the ball like an enfeebled terminal cancer patient. I'm hardly in love with Montero but if there's room for 1 last lefty bat I would much prefer it be Miggy Monty than Coghlan--particularly since Montero himself may recently have shown signs of life with the bat.
Going to go ahead and take you up on your Twitter invite to die on this Joe Smith/Jonathan Villar hill.
Villar is actually a good hitter. He's got significantly better offensive numbers than Addison Russell (10 more XBHs, higher OBP, slugging, wOBA and wRC+) who I think we would all agree has a good amount of pop in his bat and who we wouldn't be in utter shock to see hit a late inning bomb off a setup man. And Villar's been hot over the last two weeks in particular - slugging over .700 with 5 HRs.
Joe Smith may very well suck, but other than throwing one shitty pitch to a white-hot, above average offensive player, he's looked pretty damn good since coming off the DL. I'm going to see how things play out a bit before I declare him off-limits from the postseason roster.
For meme purposes, please add Joe Smith and Jonathan Villar to the list of my very favorite players, along with the Jasons Hammel & Heyward.
Quote from: R-V on September 08, 2016, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 08, 2016, 09:19:22 AM
Scott Lindholm on Twitter pointed out, in passing, that the Cubs went with 11 pitchers last postseason, and I heard the same thing on the radio this morning. This news is perfect timing for me as Joe Smith went back to instilling doubt into his effectiveness when he served up an utter bomb to a middle infielder who will struggle to finish with 15 HR's on the season.
So if the Cubs do go with 14 position players, then I think Albert Almora and his precious glove may well in fact make the cut.
Also, in addition to seeing Smith shit the tub again, I was actually glad to see Coghlan repeatedly hit the ball like an enfeebled terminal cancer patient. I'm hardly in love with Montero but if there's room for 1 last lefty bat I would much prefer it be Miggy Monty than Coghlan--particularly since Montero himself may recently have shown signs of life with the bat.
Going to go ahead and take you up on your Twitter invite to die on this Joe Smith/Jonathan Villar hill.
Villar is actually a good hitter. He's got significantly better offensive numbers than Addison Russell (10 more XBHs, higher OBP, slugging, wOBA and wRC+) who I think we would all agree has a good amount of pop in his bat and who we wouldn't be in utter shock to see hit a late inning bomb off a setup man. And Villar's been hot over the last two weeks in particular - slugging over .700 with 5 HRs.
Joe Smith may very well suck, but other than throwing one shitty pitch to a white-hot, above average offensive player, he's looked pretty damn good since coming off the DL. I'm going to see how things play out a bit before I declare him off-limits from the postseason roster.
For meme purposes, please add Joe Smith and Jonathan Villar to the list of my very favorite players, along with the Jasons Hammel & Heyward.
Honest question-- if they go with 11 pitchers, who do you cut to make room for your beloved Joe Smith? Grimm? Edwards? Chapman?
Even for you, this is a pretty insipid hill to die on.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 08, 2016, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 08, 2016, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 08, 2016, 09:19:22 AM
Scott Lindholm on Twitter pointed out, in passing, that the Cubs went with 11 pitchers last postseason, and I heard the same thing on the radio this morning. This news is perfect timing for me as Joe Smith went back to instilling doubt into his effectiveness when he served up an utter bomb to a middle infielder who will struggle to finish with 15 HR's on the season.
So if the Cubs do go with 14 position players, then I think Albert Almora and his precious glove may well in fact make the cut.
Also, in addition to seeing Smith shit the tub again, I was actually glad to see Coghlan repeatedly hit the ball like an enfeebled terminal cancer patient. I'm hardly in love with Montero but if there's room for 1 last lefty bat I would much prefer it be Miggy Monty than Coghlan--particularly since Montero himself may recently have shown signs of life with the bat.
Going to go ahead and take you up on your Twitter invite to die on this Joe Smith/Jonathan Villar hill.
Villar is actually a good hitter. He's got significantly better offensive numbers than Addison Russell (10 more XBHs, higher OBP, slugging, wOBA and wRC+) who I think we would all agree has a good amount of pop in his bat and who we wouldn't be in utter shock to see hit a late inning bomb off a setup man. And Villar's been hot over the last two weeks in particular - slugging over .700 with 5 HRs.
Joe Smith may very well suck, but other than throwing one shitty pitch to a white-hot, above average offensive player, he's looked pretty damn good since coming off the DL. I'm going to see how things play out a bit before I declare him off-limits from the postseason roster.
For meme purposes, please add Joe Smith and Jonathan Villar to the list of my very favorite players, along with the Jasons Hammel & Heyward.
Honest question-- if they go with 11 pitchers, who do you cut to make room for your beloved Joe Smith? Grimm? Edwards? Chapman?
Even for you, this is a pretty insipid hill to die on.
If they go with 11...
Jake
Lester
QSM
Mouthbreather
Wood (LOOGY)
Montgomery
Cahill
Grimm
Edwards
Rondon
Chapman
It also means that Strop isn't ready.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 08, 2016, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 08, 2016, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 08, 2016, 09:19:22 AM
Scott Lindholm on Twitter pointed out, in passing, that the Cubs went with 11 pitchers last postseason, and I heard the same thing on the radio this morning. This news is perfect timing for me as Joe Smith went back to instilling doubt into his effectiveness when he served up an utter bomb to a middle infielder who will struggle to finish with 15 HR's on the season.
So if the Cubs do go with 14 position players, then I think Albert Almora and his precious glove may well in fact make the cut.
Also, in addition to seeing Smith shit the tub again, I was actually glad to see Coghlan repeatedly hit the ball like an enfeebled terminal cancer patient. I'm hardly in love with Montero but if there's room for 1 last lefty bat I would much prefer it be Miggy Monty than Coghlan--particularly since Montero himself may recently have shown signs of life with the bat.
Going to go ahead and take you up on your Twitter invite to die on this Joe Smith/Jonathan Villar hill.
Villar is actually a good hitter. He's got significantly better offensive numbers than Addison Russell (10 more XBHs, higher OBP, slugging, wOBA and wRC+) who I think we would all agree has a good amount of pop in his bat and who we wouldn't be in utter shock to see hit a late inning bomb off a setup man. And Villar's been hot over the last two weeks in particular - slugging over .700 with 5 HRs.
Joe Smith may very well suck, but other than throwing one shitty pitch to a white-hot, above average offensive player, he's looked pretty damn good since coming off the DL. I'm going to see how things play out a bit before I declare him off-limits from the postseason roster.
For meme purposes, please add Joe Smith and Jonathan Villar to the list of my very favorite players, along with the Jasons Hammel & Heyward.
Honest question-- if they go with 11 pitchers, who do you cut to make room for your beloved Joe Smith? Grimm? Edwards? Chapman?
Even for you, this is a pretty insipid hill to die on.
I agree with your list of 11 for the NLDS. But I would consider Smith (along with Cahill or Zastrynszy) as a replacement for Grimm or Strop if they're not ready for the NLDS health-wise, or if they add a 12th pitcher for the NLCS.
Quote from: R-V on September 08, 2016, 09:48:18 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 08, 2016, 09:40:58 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 08, 2016, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 08, 2016, 09:19:22 AM
Scott Lindholm on Twitter pointed out, in passing, that the Cubs went with 11 pitchers last postseason, and I heard the same thing on the radio this morning. This news is perfect timing for me as Joe Smith went back to instilling doubt into his effectiveness when he served up an utter bomb to a middle infielder who will struggle to finish with 15 HR's on the season.
So if the Cubs do go with 14 position players, then I think Albert Almora and his precious glove may well in fact make the cut.
Also, in addition to seeing Smith shit the tub again, I was actually glad to see Coghlan repeatedly hit the ball like an enfeebled terminal cancer patient. I'm hardly in love with Montero but if there's room for 1 last lefty bat I would much prefer it be Miggy Monty than Coghlan--particularly since Montero himself may recently have shown signs of life with the bat.
Going to go ahead and take you up on your Twitter invite to die on this Joe Smith/Jonathan Villar hill.
Villar is actually a good hitter. He's got significantly better offensive numbers than Addison Russell (10 more XBHs, higher OBP, slugging, wOBA and wRC+) who I think we would all agree has a good amount of pop in his bat and who we wouldn't be in utter shock to see hit a late inning bomb off a setup man. And Villar's been hot over the last two weeks in particular - slugging over .700 with 5 HRs.
Joe Smith may very well suck, but other than throwing one shitty pitch to a white-hot, above average offensive player, he's looked pretty damn good since coming off the DL. I'm going to see how things play out a bit before I declare him off-limits from the postseason roster.
For meme purposes, please add Joe Smith and Jonathan Villar to the list of my very favorite players, along with the Jasons Hammel & Heyward.
Honest question-- if they go with 11 pitchers, who do you cut to make room for your beloved Joe Smith? Grimm? Edwards? Chapman?
Even for you, this is a pretty insipid hill to die on.
I agree with your list of 11 for the NLDS. But I would consider Smith (along with Cahill or Zastrynszy) as a replacement for Grimm or Strop if they're not ready for the NLDS health-wise, or if they add a 12th pitcher for the NLCS.
DPD. And now I see that Grimm left the game last night because he shit his pants, not because of injury. So that increases the chances of a Smith-less roster.
From Jon Greenberg's Athletic recap of last night's game:
QuoteFor everyone banging the drum on moving Arrieta to the third spot in the playoff rotation, this start didn't disprove that mainstream idea. In fact, the Cubs rejiggered their rotation again to keep Jon Lester on pace to start Game 1 of the division series on Oct. 7. It's going to go Lester, Kyle Hendricks, Arrieta and John Lackey. We all know that.
Do we? I didn't. Did I miss this becoming Said in Stone?
Quote from: R-V on September 12, 2016, 11:29:18 AM
From Jon Greenberg's Athletic recap of last night's game:
QuoteFor everyone banging the drum on moving Arrieta to the third spot in the playoff rotation, this start didn't disprove that mainstream idea. In fact, the Cubs rejiggered their rotation again to keep Jon Lester on pace to start Game 1 of the division series on Oct. 7. It's going to go Lester, Kyle Hendricks, Arrieta and John Lackey. We all know that.
Do we? I didn't. Did I miss this becoming Said in Stone?
I was not aware of it but it makes sense. Arrieta doesn't have much of a home/road split, Lester and Hendricks have been basically unbeatable at home.
Quote from: SKO on September 12, 2016, 11:34:21 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 12, 2016, 11:29:18 AM
From Jon Greenberg's Athletic recap of last night's game:
QuoteFor everyone banging the drum on moving Arrieta to the third spot in the playoff rotation, this start didn't disprove that mainstream idea. In fact, the Cubs rejiggered their rotation again to keep Jon Lester on pace to start Game 1 of the division series on Oct. 7. It's going to go Lester, Kyle Hendricks, Arrieta and John Lackey. We all know that.
Do we? I didn't. Did I miss this becoming Said in Stone?
I was not aware of it but it makes sense. Arrieta doesn't have much of a home/road split, Lester and Hendricks have been basically unbeatable at home.
I like Arrieta on the road, if for no other irrational reason than I have fond memories if the coin-flip game wherein the Cubs jumped out to a lead in the top of the 1st and then cruised. I know it didn't work out so well against the Mets but Arrieta had run out of gas by then anyway, and I don't suspect that'll be a problem this year. In any event, my own belief is that Lester-Hendricks-Arrieta is the optimal arrangement.
DPD.
Pretty sure Almora's going to make the postseason roster which, assuming they go with 11 pitchers in the first round, would mean the last spot would definitely be Montero v. Coghlan.
Quote from: R-V on September 12, 2016, 11:29:18 AM
From Jon Greenberg's Athletic recap of last night's game:
QuoteFor everyone banging the drum on moving Arrieta to the third spot in the playoff rotation, this start didn't disprove that mainstream idea. In fact, the Cubs rejiggered their rotation again to keep Jon Lester on pace to start Game 1 of the division series on Oct. 7. It's going to go Lester, Kyle Hendricks, Arrieta and John Lackey. We all know that.
Do we? I didn't. Did I miss this becoming Said in Stone?
Sahadev should write all the Cubs stuff.
It's my drum to beat, but the Cubs are mathematically in the playoffs.
Cubs lose out, Cards win out: No Division
But, that also means SF has 72 losses since they play the Cardinals, and the Cubs can only get down to 69 losses.
Quote from: Yeti on September 15, 2016, 08:32:34 AM
It's my drum to beat, but the Cubs are mathematically in the playoffs.
Cubs lose out, Cards win out: No Division
But, that also means SF has 72 losses since they play the Cardinals, and the Cubs can only get down to 69 losses.
Nice.
Quote from: Yeti on September 15, 2016, 08:32:34 AM
It's my drum to beat, but the Cubs are mathematically in the playoffs.
Cubs lose out, Cards win out: No Division
But, that also means SF has 72 losses since they play the Cardinals, and the Cubs can only get down to 69 losses.
What if the Giants and Mets win out while the Cubs lose out?
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2016, 11:27:59 AM
Quote from: Yeti on September 15, 2016, 08:32:34 AM
It's my drum to beat, but the Cubs are mathematically in the playoffs.
Cubs lose out, Cards win out: No Division
But, that also means SF has 72 losses since they play the Cardinals, and the Cubs can only get down to 69 losses.
What if the Giants and Mets win out while the Cubs lose out?
MLB.com has the little x by the Cubs so they're in no matter what http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/index.jsp
Quote from: SKO on September 15, 2016, 11:29:41 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2016, 11:27:59 AM
Quote from: Yeti on September 15, 2016, 08:32:34 AM
It's my drum to beat, but the Cubs are mathematically in the playoffs.
Cubs lose out, Cards win out: No Division
But, that also means SF has 72 losses since they play the Cardinals, and the Cubs can only get down to 69 losses.
What if the Giants and Mets win out while the Cubs lose out?
MLB.com has the little x by the Cubs so they're in no matter what http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/standings/index.jsp
Me, this morning...
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on September 15, 2016, 11:27:59 AM
Quote from: Yeti on September 15, 2016, 08:32:34 AM
It's my drum to beat, but the Cubs are mathematically in the playoffs.
Cubs lose out, Cards win out: No Division
But, that also means SF has 72 losses since they play the Cardinals, and the Cubs can only get down to 69 losses.
What if the Giants and Mets win out while the Cubs lose out?
I like that scenario, because that means the Cubs probably play the Dodgers (or Giants, I guess) while the Nats get the Wild Card team.
And they're officially division champs. The fact that they clinched with a Cardinals loss is almost better than clinching with a win.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 16, 2016, 02:52:07 AM
And they're officially division champs. The fact that they clinched with a Cardinals loss is almost better than clinching with a win.
Especially since said Cardinals loss put them behind the Mets in the loss column.
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Replace Coghlan with La Stella and I think you've got it.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 22, 2016, 09:29:23 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Replace Coghlan with La Stella and I think you've got it.
God help me, if Coghlan keeps hitting I actually think Joe would keep Coghlan AND La Stella over Almora, or only keep one of Almora and Szczur. They just need one defensive sub for George, Szczur's role as a lefty mashing OF is redundant if they have Soler and Baez, and you can probably never have enough left handed pinch hitters with decent on base skills.
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2016, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 22, 2016, 09:29:23 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Replace Coghlan with La Stella and I think you've got it.
God help me, if Coghlan keeps hitting I actually think Joe would keep Coghlan AND La Stella over Almora, or only keep one of Almora and Szczur. They just need one defensive sub for George, Szczur's role as a lefty mashing OF is redundant if they have Soler and Baez, and you can probably never have enough left handed pinch hitters with decent on base skills.
I'm viewing Szcur and Coghlan as PH specialists only - I wouldn't expect them to get a start. And yeah while I think many of us would prefer La Stella over Coghlan for a variety of reasons, my Hendry-esque gut tells me Maddon trusts Coghlan more than La Stella.
At catcher, I think you'd see Ross paired up with Lester, Montero paired up with Jake (since anecdotally he seems to be the guy that can help Jake work through his inevitable one inning where he loses his shit), and then matchups for Hendricks & Lackey starts - maybe Contreras, maybe not.
For the rest of the position players, you've got Rizzo, Zobrist, Russell, Bryant, Fowler and Heyward in there every game. Soler and Baez would fill the last positional spot depending on matchups.
Then you've got Almora as exclusively an 8th/9th inning lead defensive option, or possibly a pinch runner for Montero or Ross.
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2016, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 22, 2016, 09:29:23 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Replace Coghlan with La Stella and I think you've got it.
God help me, if Coghlan keeps hitting I actually think Joe would keep Coghlan AND La Stella over Almora, or only keep one of Almora and Szczur. They just need one defensive sub for George, Szczur's role as a lefty mashing OF is redundant if they have Soler and Baez, and you can probably never have enough left handed pinch hitters with decent on base skills.
I'm viewing Szcur and Coghlan as PH specialists only - I wouldn't expect them to get a start. And yeah while I think many of us would prefer La Stella over Coghlan for a variety of reasons, my Hendry-esque gut tells me Maddon trusts Coghlan more than La Stella.
At catcher, I think you'd see Ross paired up with Lester, Montero paired up with Jake (since anecdotally he seems to be the guy that can help Jake work through his inevitable one inning where he loses his shit), and then matchups for Hendricks & Lackey starts - maybe Contreras, maybe not.
For the rest of the position players, you've got Rizzo, Zobrist, Russell, Bryant, Fowler and Heyward in there every game. Soler and Baez would fill the last positional spot depending on matchups.
Then you've got Almora as exclusively an 8th/9th inning lead defensive option, or possibly a pinch runner for Montero or Ross.
Sczcur's expired (not necessarily dead but he all of a sudden sucks). I'd rather see Almora, Cogs, and LaStella over him only because that gives you an extra IF option.
Quote from: Oleg on September 22, 2016, 10:00:24 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:41:09 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 22, 2016, 09:31:45 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 22, 2016, 09:29:23 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Replace Coghlan with La Stella and I think you've got it.
God help me, if Coghlan keeps hitting I actually think Joe would keep Coghlan AND La Stella over Almora, or only keep one of Almora and Szczur. They just need one defensive sub for George, Szczur's role as a lefty mashing OF is redundant if they have Soler and Baez, and you can probably never have enough left handed pinch hitters with decent on base skills.
I'm viewing Szcur and Coghlan as PH specialists only - I wouldn't expect them to get a start. And yeah while I think many of us would prefer La Stella over Coghlan for a variety of reasons, my Hendry-esque gut tells me Maddon trusts Coghlan more than La Stella.
At catcher, I think you'd see Ross paired up with Lester, Montero paired up with Jake (since anecdotally he seems to be the guy that can help Jake work through his inevitable one inning where he loses his shit), and then matchups for Hendricks & Lackey starts - maybe Contreras, maybe not.
For the rest of the position players, you've got Rizzo, Zobrist, Russell, Bryant, Fowler and Heyward in there every game. Soler and Baez would fill the last positional spot depending on matchups.
Then you've got Almora as exclusively an 8th/9th inning lead defensive option, or possibly a pinch runner for Montero or Ross.
Sczcur's expired (not necessarily dead but he all of a sudden sucks). I'd rather see Almora, Cogs, and LaStella over him only because that gives you an extra IF option.
I don't know that he's expired so much as he has one very limited skill and that it is one they don't really need when Jorge is healthy.
Game One of the NLDS if Lester starts will probably have Javy at third so:
Fowler CF
Bryant LF
Rizzo 1B
Zobrist 2B
Russell SS
Heyward RF
Baez 3B
Ross C
Lester P
That leaves you with Soler, Contreras, Almora as your right handed pinch hitters, Coghlan, La Stella, Montero as left handed options.
Otherwise the lineup would probably Fowler CF/Bryant 3B/Rizzo 1B/Zobrist 2B/Heyward RF/Soler LF/Russell SS and either Montero or Willson at catcher. For what is worth it's a small sample size but in 90 career PAs against LHP La Stella has a .291/.378/.392/.770 line, whereas Coghlan and Szczur are both straight platoon players. If you wanted versatility you'd pick La Stella over either, and Coghlan as the left handed option who is now hitting and also walks a fair amount probably offers you more than Szczur, when you already have Soler/Contreras/Baez as lefty mashing options.
If you're keeping one guy solely for defense and to also maybe be your 3rd or 4th best pinch hitter against LHP then Almora probably makes more sense as a Fowler/Almora/Heyward OF defense with a 1 run lead and a bullpen of Edwards/Strop/Rondon/Chapman is just highly erotic.
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 22, 2016, 09:29:23 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Replace Coghlan with La Stella and I think you've got it.
God help me, if Coghlan keeps hitting I actually think Joe would keep Coghlan AND La Stella over Almora, or only keep one of Almora and Szczur. They just need one defensive sub for George, Szczur's role as a lefty mashing OF is redundant if they have Soler and Baez, and you can probably never have enough left handed pinch hitters with decent on base skills.
I'm viewing Szcur and Coghlan as PH specialists only - I wouldn't expect them to get a start. And yeah while I think many of us would prefer La Stella over Coghlan for a variety of reasons, my Hendry-esque gut tells me Maddon trusts Coghlan more than La Stella.
At catcher, I think you'd see Ross paired up with Lester, Montero paired up with Jake (since anecdotally he seems to be the guy that can help Jake work through his inevitable one inning where he loses his shit), and then matchups for Hendricks & Lackey starts - maybe Contreras, maybe not.
For the rest of the position players, you've got Rizzo, Zobrist, Russell, Bryant, Fowler and Heyward in there every game. Soler and Baez would fill the last positional spot depending on matchups.
Then you've got Almora as exclusively an 8th/9th inning lead defensive option, or possibly a pinch runner for Montero or Ross.
Sczcur's expired (not necessarily dead but he all of a sudden sucks). I'd rather see Almora, Cogs, and LaStella over him only because that gives you an extra IF option.
I don't know that he's expired so much as he has one very limited skill and that it is one they don't really need when Jorge is healthy.
Game One of the NLDS if Lester starts will probably have Javy at third so:
Fowler CF
Bryant LF
Rizzo 1B
Zobrist 2B
Russell SS
Heyward RF
Baez 3B
Ross C
Lester P
That leaves you with Soler, Contreras, Almora as your right handed pinch hitters, Coghlan, La Stella, Montero as left handed options.
Otherwise the lineup would probably Fowler CF/Bryant 3B/Rizzo 1B/Zobrist 2B/Heyward RF/Soler LF/Russell SS and either Montero or Willson at catcher. For what is worth it's a small sample size but in 90 career PAs against LHP La Stella has a .291/.378/.392/.770 line, whereas Coghlan and Szczur are both straight platoon players. If you wanted versatility you'd pick La Stella over either, and Coghlan as the left handed option who is now hitting and also walks a fair amount probably offers you more than Szczur, when you already have Soler/Contreras/Baez as lefty mashing options.
These are all good points. It is probably true that at least one of Baez, Soler or Contreras would be available as a RH PH option, and they're all better options than Szczur. I really have no attachment to Szczur - it's interesting/maddening that a guy who was supposedly a two-sport athlete is at best an average defender & baserunner.
Greetings from Petco Park, where the Padres continue to suck.
In light of the Giants (and possibly Red Sox?) fans behind me who are trying to troll by talking about how the Cubs won't win the World Series because of goats and Bartman or something, I propose the following 2016 postseason hashtag:
#FuckYourCurse
Quote from: Saul Goodman on September 24, 2016, 09:35:34 PM
Greetings from Petco Park, where the Padres continue to suck.
In light of the Giants (and possibly Red Sox?) fans behind me who are trying to troll by talking about how the Cubs won't win the World Series because of goats and Bartman or something, I propose the following 2016 postseason hashtag:
#FuckYourCurse
No because the only course of action is to not engage in discussions involving that word in the first place. It's got nothing to do with nothing and only emboldens the stupid.
Funny how things change, as the situation has proved to have been fluid this month.
Coghlan looks like he's edged ahead of LaStella (if that is, in fact, the competition). Not only has Coghlan suddenly proven his worth this month, but LaStella's been hitting the ball as softly as Matt Murton, has proven that he's really not so much of a plus defensive infielder, and his petulant little snit from 2 months ago may ultimately prove to be the deciding factor, since at this point it appears, by all objective estimations, to be a push.
Meanwhile, I think Almora may have pulled ahead of Szczur. His late-game drop tonight of a well struck ball notwithstanding (and let's face it, his edge has always been his defense), this kid has just been walloping the ball while Szczur currently can't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
Montero has definitely earned his ticket, I think it's fair to surmise.
Finally, Justin Grimm is doing his damnedest to give Joe pause. Whether Hammel or Cahill (or both, if they go with a 12-man staff) supplant him, or Felix Pena--who cleaned up Grimm's scat-tastic performance tonight-- fills the spot, I'd say Grimm is far from a sure thing suddenly.
C Contreras
C Ross
C Montero
IF Rizzo
IF Zobrist
IF Baez
IF Russell
IF Bryant
OF Heyward
OF Fowler
OF Soler
OF Coghlan
OF Almora
SP Lester
SP Hendricks
SP Arrieta
SP Lackey
RP Chapman
RP Rondon
RP Strop
RP Edwards
RP Montgomery
RP Wood
This leaves 2 spots which, if they go with 14/11, means 1 position player and 1 pitcher. Seems the position player spot now comes down to a battle of LaStella vs. Szczur, and the pitching spot is amongst Grimm, Hammel, Pena and Cahill--unless they go with 13/12 (still unlikely I think), in which case 2 of the latter group make it over both LaStella and Szczur. I suppose if Almora's offense can be trusted (at least over Szczur), that they may well in fact go with 13/12, considering how flexible their offensive players are positionally, but that still strikes me as unneccesary.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 12:15:51 AM
Funny how things change, as the situation has proved to have been fluid this month.
Coghlan looks like he's edged ahead of LaStella (if that is, in fact, the competition). Not only has Coghlan suddenly proven his worth this month, but LaStella's been hitting the ball as softly as Matt Murton, has proven that he's really not so much of a plus defensive infielder, and his petulant little snit from 2 months ago may ultimately prove to be the deciding factor, since at this point it appears, by all objective estimations, to be a push.
Meanwhile, I think Almora may have pulled ahead of Szczur. His late-game drop tonight of a well struck ball notwithstanding (and let's face it, his edge has always been his defense), this kid has just been walloping the ball while Szczur currently can't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
Montero has definitely earned his ticket, I think it's fair to surmise.
Finally, Justin Grimm is doing his damnedest to give Joe pause. Whether Hammel or Cahill (or both, if they go with a 12-man staff) supplant him, or Felix Pena--who cleaned up Grimm's scat-tastic performance tonight-- fills the spot, I'd say Grimm is far from a sure thing suddenly.
C Contreras
C Ross
C Montero
IF Rizzo
IF Zobrist
IF Baez
IF Russell
IF Bryant
OF Heyward
OF Fowler
OF Soler
OF Coghlan
OF Almora
SP Lester
SP Hendricks
SP Arrieta
SP Lackey
RP Chapman
RP Rondon
RP Strop
RP Edwards
RP Montgomery
RP Wood
This leaves 2 spots which, if they go with 14/11, means 1 position player and 1 pitcher. Seems the position player spot now comes down to a battle of LaStella vs. Szczur, and the pitching spot is amongst Grimm, Hammel, Pena and Cahill--unless they go with 13/12 (still unlikely I think), in which case 2 of the latter group make it over both LaStella and Szczur. I suppose if Almora's offense can be trusted (at least over Szczur), that they may well in fact go with 13/12, considering how flexible their offensive players are positionally, but that still strikes me as unneccesary.
If you go with Szczur over LaStella, that means you've got Fowler, JHey, Soler, Almora, Bryant, Baez, Coghlan and Szczur for the OF and only Rizzo, Zobrist, Russell, Baez and Bryant for the IF. I think LaStella gets the nod on that basis.
Quote from: Tonker on September 28, 2016, 02:01:40 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 12:15:51 AM
Funny how things change, as the situation has proved to have been fluid this month.
Coghlan looks like he's edged ahead of LaStella (if that is, in fact, the competition). Not only has Coghlan suddenly proven his worth this month, but LaStella's been hitting the ball as softly as Matt Murton, has proven that he's really not so much of a plus defensive infielder, and his petulant little snit from 2 months ago may ultimately prove to be the deciding factor, since at this point it appears, by all objective estimations, to be a push.
Meanwhile, I think Almora may have pulled ahead of Szczur. His late-game drop tonight of a well struck ball notwithstanding (and let's face it, his edge has always been his defense), this kid has just been walloping the ball while Szczur currently can't hit water if he fell out of a boat.
Montero has definitely earned his ticket, I think it's fair to surmise.
Finally, Justin Grimm is doing his damnedest to give Joe pause. Whether Hammel or Cahill (or both, if they go with a 12-man staff) supplant him, or Felix Pena--who cleaned up Grimm's scat-tastic performance tonight-- fills the spot, I'd say Grimm is far from a sure thing suddenly.
C Contreras
C Ross
C Montero
IF Rizzo
IF Zobrist
IF Baez
IF Russell
IF Bryant
OF Heyward
OF Fowler
OF Soler
OF Coghlan
OF Almora
SP Lester
SP Hendricks
SP Arrieta
SP Lackey
RP Chapman
RP Rondon
RP Strop
RP Edwards
RP Montgomery
RP Wood
This leaves 2 spots which, if they go with 14/11, means 1 position player and 1 pitcher. Seems the position player spot now comes down to a battle of LaStella vs. Szczur, and the pitching spot is amongst Grimm, Hammel, Pena and Cahill--unless they go with 13/12 (still unlikely I think), in which case 2 of the latter group make it over both LaStella and Szczur. I suppose if Almora's offense can be trusted (at least over Szczur), that they may well in fact go with 13/12, considering how flexible their offensive players are positionally, but that still strikes me as unneccesary.
If you go with Szczur over LaStella, that means you've got Fowler, JHey, Soler, Almora, Bryant, Baez, Coghlan and Szczur for the OF and only Rizzo, Zobrist, Russell, Baez and Bryant for the IF. I think LaStella gets the nod on that basis.
Don't forget Zobrist in the OF.
If Soler's side is still keeping him out of games, this all changes, natch.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 12:15:51 AM
Finally, Justin Grimm is doing his damnedest to give Joe pause. Whether Hammel or Cahill (or both, if they go with a 12-man staff) supplant him, or Felix Pena--who cleaned up Grimm's scat-tastic performance tonight-- fills the spot, I'd say Grimm is far from a sure thing suddenly.
Grimm's allowed all of 7 runs in his last 33 appearances. That he's allowed runs in 2 of his last 3 appearances is nothing more than a fluke, probably. The stuff and the control have looked fine, and Joe is hardly the type to overreact to a few aberrations. If he doesn't make the postseason roster I'd be shocked. Hell, by your logic, Rondon would be far less likely than Grimm to make the roster as he's been absolute garbage ever since his arm started hurting. He's been scored on in 4 of his last 9 appearances with a 12.27 ERA and a 1.247 OPS against.
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2016, 07:39:51 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 12:15:51 AM
Finally, Justin Grimm is doing his damnedest to give Joe pause. Whether Hammel or Cahill (or both, if they go with a 12-man staff) supplant him, or Felix Pena--who cleaned up Grimm's scat-tastic performance tonight-- fills the spot, I'd say Grimm is far from a sure thing suddenly.
Grimm's allowed all of 7 runs in his last 33 appearances. That he's allowed runs in 2 of his last 3 appearances is nothing more than a fluke, probably. The stuff and the control have looked fine, and Joe is hardly the type to overreact to a few aberrations. If he doesn't make the postseason roster I'd be shocked. Hell, by your logic, Rondon would be far less likely than Grimm to make the roster as he's been absolute garbage ever since his arm started hurting. He's been scored on in 4 of his last 9 appearances with a 12.27 ERA and a 1.247 OPS against.
Yeah his control was great. He walked back-to-back hitters with a 5 run lead and 1 out in the 9th inning. INTENSE control.
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Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2016, 07:39:51 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 12:15:51 AM
Finally, Justin Grimm is doing his damnedest to give Joe pause. Whether Hammel or Cahill (or both, if they go with a 12-man staff) supplant him, or Felix Pena--who cleaned up Grimm's scat-tastic performance tonight-- fills the spot, I'd say Grimm is far from a sure thing suddenly.
Grimm's allowed all of 7 runs in his last 33 appearances. That he's allowed runs in 2 of his last 3 appearances is nothing more than a fluke, probably. The stuff and the control have looked fine, and Joe is hardly the type to overreact to a few aberrations. If he doesn't make the postseason roster I'd be shocked. Hell, by your logic, Rondon would be far less likely than Grimm to make the roster as he's been absolute garbage ever since his arm started hurting. He's been scored on in 4 of his last 9 appearances with a 12.27 ERA and a 1.247 OPS against.
Yeah his control was great. He walked back-to-back hitters with a 5 run lead and 1 out in the 9th inning. INTENSE control.
Ahh because I was specifically referring to one single outing as opposed to the fact that he's walked all of 9 guys total in the last three months. By all means if you want to kick him off the playoff roster because of one mediocre inning in a low leverage spot in a 100% meaningless game be my guest, and I will laugh heartily when that roster is announced and he's right there. If his arm doesn't fall off between now and October 7th, he'll be on that roster.
I mean, far be it from me to judge anyone for overreacting, but if you've concocted a scenario in your head where Felix Pena makes the playoff roster maybe walk that one back a bit.
TPD, but my guess is Chapman/Rondon/Strop/Edwards/Grimm/Wood (in that order) are locks, that last spot will come down to Hammel, Cahill, or Montgomery. Depends on how much Joe values a potential long reliever or a LOOGY. My guess is Cahill since he's been very good down the stretch.
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2016, 08:23:53 AM
TPD, but my guess is Chapman/Rondon/Strop/Edwards/Grimm/Wood (in that order) are locks, that last spot will come down to Hammel, Cahill, or Montgomery. Depends on how much Joe values a potential long reliever or a LOOGY. My guess is Cahill since he's been very good down the stretch.
This sounds right. Someone can look it up but I feel like 7 or so of Wood's last 8 or 9 or so appearances have been to face 1 lefty and then GTFO, so it seems he's being groomed for that role. I think, though, that however silly it is (and Cahill's performance notwithstanding), that Montgomery's handedness will give him the edge over Hambone and Tubby.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 28, 2016, 08:29:33 AM
Quote from: SKO on September 28, 2016, 08:23:53 AM
TPD, but my guess is Chapman/Rondon/Strop/Edwards/Grimm/Wood (in that order) are locks, that last spot will come down to Hammel, Cahill, or Montgomery. Depends on how much Joe values a potential long reliever or a LOOGY. My guess is Cahill since he's been very good down the stretch.
This sounds right. Someone can look it up but I feel like 7 or so of Wood's last 8 or 9 or so appearances have been to face 1 lefty and then GTFO, so it seems he's being groomed for that role. I think, though, that however silly it is (and Cahill's performance notwithstanding), that Montgomery's handedness will give him the edge over Hambone and Tubby.
I don't think that second lefty will be all that necessary. If you get into a spot in the middle innings where you need to bring in a lefty you can use Wood, then you have Grimm/Edwards etc to bridge the gap to Chapman. If you get into a late inning situation where the game is on the line and a lefty like Harper is up, I'm betting Joe will just bring in Chapman and then use Rondon to close if necessary, or ask Chapman to go multiple innings. Either way the second lefty is probably superfluous.
Crazy thought:
Maybe it comes down to Soler vs Contreras for one of the spots, depending on who wins the SeligCard game.
St Louis doesn't have a LHP who'll start. SF has MadBum but he'll only start one game in the NLDS, most likely. The Mets blow.
If Lester starts two games, potentially, we know that Baez will be at 3rd and Bryant in LF.
I'm guessing Maddon will play matchups and start Cogs in LF against the righties.
I think I'm just bracing myself for an NLDS roster without Soler on it.
Coghlan is doing his best to be such a garbage outfielder that he injures himself right off the playoff roster.
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 29, 2016, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I'm sure some people did.
Otherwise the place would be as empty as Busch on any given game day during the playoff run.
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I'm sure some people did.
Otherwise the place would be as empty as Busch on any given game day during the playoff run.
After season ticket holders, sponsors, MLB's cut, and various other divvies of tickets, I'm guessing there were maybe only a few hundred for any game.
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 29, 2016, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I'm sure some people did.
Otherwise the place would be as empty as Busch on any given game day during the playoff run.
After season ticket holders, sponsors, MLB's cut, and various other divvies of tickets, I'm guessing there were maybe only a few hundred for any game.
You, of all people, should know not to let facts get in the way of a terrible joke.
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 29, 2016, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I'm sure some people did.
Otherwise the place would be as empty as Busch on any given game day during the playoff run.
After season ticket holders, sponsors, MLB's cut, and various other divvies of tickets, I'm guessing there were maybe only a few hundred for any game.
You, of all people, should know not to let facts get in the way of a terrible joke.
Busch has been pretty empty during the regular season too.
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 29, 2016, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I'm sure some people did.
Otherwise the place would be as empty as Busch on any given game day during the playoff run.
After season ticket holders, sponsors, MLB's cut, and various other divvies of tickets, I'm guessing there were maybe only a few hundred for any game.
You, of all people, should know not to let facts get in the way of a terrible joke.
Busch has been pretty empty during the regular season too.
But they've sold it out for a thousand consecutive games.
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 29, 2016, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I'm sure some people did.
Otherwise the place would be as empty as Busch on any given game day during the playoff run.
After season ticket holders, sponsors, MLB's cut, and various other divvies of tickets, I'm guessing there were maybe only a few hundred for any game.
You, of all people, should know not to let facts get in the way of a terrible joke.
Busch has been pretty empty during the regular season too.
But they've sold it out for a thousand consecutive games.
BFIB know to come dressed as empty seats.
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Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 29, 2016, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I'm sure some people did.
Otherwise the place would be as empty as Busch on any given game day during the playoff run.
After season ticket holders, sponsors, MLB's cut, and various other divvies of tickets, I'm guessing there were maybe only a few hundred for any game.
You, of all people, should know not to let facts get in the way of a terrible joke.
Busch has been pretty empty during the regular season too.
But they've sold it out for a thousand consecutive games.
There's been a lot of fender benders around the ballpark. As soon as they move those tow trucks the stadium will fill up.
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Quote from: Bort on September 29, 2016, 10:12:23 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on September 29, 2016, 08:45:20 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I'm sure some people did.
Otherwise the place would be as empty as Busch on any given game day during the playoff run.
After season ticket holders, sponsors, MLB's cut, and various other divvies of tickets, I'm guessing there were maybe only a few hundred for any game.
You, of all people, should know not to let facts get in the way of a terrible joke.
Busch has been pretty empty during the regular season too.
But they've sold it out for a thousand consecutive games.
BFIB know to come dressed as empty seats.
3rd in attendance a year after being 2nd.
What's BC's name these days? When I won the ticket lottery I couldn't get it out of my head that maybe my luck would continue and he'd go to the game with me.
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Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I did.
MAH GAWD, THAT'S PRE'S MUSIC!
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Grandmaster Wang: 7 years, 8 months
Quote from: Yeti on October 03, 2016, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 03, 2016, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 03, 2016, 04:08:41 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 03, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I did.
MAH GAWD, THAT'S PRE'S MUSIC!
4+ years in between posts might be a Desipio record.
http://desipio.com/messageboard/index.php?action=profile;u=188
Grandmaster Wang: 7 years, 8 months
He went from posting on page 8 of an 18 page Marquis defenestration thread to posting on page 29 of Arrieta's sploogefest thread.
Quote from: flannj on October 03, 2016, 06:21:03 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 03, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I did.
What the fuck dude.
I thought you and Kerm both died.
Mrs. Butthead was asking about Pre a week or so ago. One of two Desipiot clients we had. I said he disappeared and maybe he died or something.
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2016, 08:31:57 AM
Quote from: flannj on October 03, 2016, 06:21:03 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 03, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I did.
What the fuck dude.
I thought you and Kerm both died.
Mrs. Butthead was asking about Pre a week or so ago. One of two Desipiot clients we had. I said he disappeared and maybe he died or something.
Saw her and Frank the Tank on Milwaukee the other day while walking to dinner. Had a pleasant convo about the raccoon walking along the curb mere feet away at 5:30pm in broad daylight. What at time to live in the suburbs!
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on October 04, 2016, 09:07:08 AM
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Quote from: flannj on October 03, 2016, 06:21:03 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 03, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I did.
What the fuck dude.
I thought you and Kerm both died.
Mrs. Butthead was asking about Pre a week or so ago. One of two Desipiot clients we had. I said he disappeared and maybe he died or something.
Saw her and Frank the Tank on Milwaukee the other day while walking to dinner. Had a pleasant convo about the raccoon walking along the curb mere feet away at 5:30pm in broad daylight. What at time to live in the suburbs!
She mentioned that. I think that's what prompted her to ask about the other client from Desipio.
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2016, 09:35:38 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on October 04, 2016, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2016, 08:31:57 AM
Quote from: flannj on October 03, 2016, 06:21:03 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 03, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I did.
What the fuck dude.
I thought you and Kerm both died.
Mrs. Butthead was asking about Pre a week or so ago. One of two Desipiot clients we had. I said he disappeared and maybe he died or something.
Saw her and Frank the Tank on Milwaukee the other day while walking to dinner. Had a pleasant convo about the raccoon walking along the curb mere feet away at 5:30pm in broad daylight. What at time to live in the suburbs!
She mentioned that. I think that's what prompted her to ask about the other client from Desipio.
And to renew the restraining order.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 04, 2016, 01:27:27 PM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2016, 09:35:38 AM
Quote from: Richard Chuggar on October 04, 2016, 09:07:08 AM
Quote from: Tony on October 04, 2016, 08:31:57 AM
Quote from: flannj on October 03, 2016, 06:21:03 PM
Quote from: Pre on October 03, 2016, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on September 29, 2016, 08:37:04 AM
Anyone win the ticket lottery?
I did.
What the fuck dude.
I thought you and Kerm both died.
Mrs. Butthead was asking about Pre a week or so ago. One of two Desipiot clients we had. I said he disappeared and maybe he died or something.
Saw her and Frank the Tank on Milwaukee the other day while walking to dinner. Had a pleasant convo about the raccoon walking along the curb mere feet away at 5:30pm in broad daylight. What at time to live in the suburbs!
She mentioned that. I think that's what prompted her to ask about the other client from Desipio.
And to renew the restraining order.
You can try to serve a restraining order on a raccoon, but I doubt that he will pay any attention to it. Raccoons are a lot like cats in that way.
In the meaningless stats department, has anyone else noticed that the Cubs have lost 9 of their last 10 Saturday games?
Noodling on opposing starters for the NLDS. The only way to get two starts for Thor/Bumgarner is for them to pitch at least once on short rest. I'll take the Mets please.
Mets
Colon
Syndergaard (short rest)
Lugo/Gsellman
Colon (short rest)
Syndergaard
Giants
Cueto
Bumgarner (short rest)
Snork
Cueto (short rest)
Bumgarner
Quote from: R-V on October 04, 2016, 04:44:27 PM
Noodling on opposing starters for the NLDS. The only way to get two starts for Thor/Bumgarner is for them to pitch at least once on short rest. I'll take the Mets please.
Mets
Colon
Syndergaard (short rest)
Lugo/Gsellman
Colon (short rest)
Syndergaard
Giants
Cueto
Bumgarner (short rest)
Snork
Cueto (short rest)
Bumgarner
Snork v. Arrieta in the Scott Feldman Memorial Classic.
Quote from: R-V on October 04, 2016, 04:44:27 PM
Noodling on opposing starters for the NLDS. The only way to get two starts for Thor/Bumgarner is for them to pitch at least once on short rest. I'll take the Mets please.
Mets
Colon
Syndergaard (short rest)
Lugo/Gsellman
Colon (short rest)
Syndergaard
Giants
Cueto
Bumgarner (short rest)
Snork
Cueto (short rest)
Bumgarner
(https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xap1/t51.2885-15/e15/11084958_1374332109562586_471582459_n.jpg)
Go Mets.
I get that everyone likes the Cubs facing the Mets' remnants of a rotation, but the Giants' bullpen is fucking atrocious. I mean, you look at their roster for tonight's game and actually find yourself wondering of Casilla over Nathan was a good call.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 05, 2016, 11:44:06 AM
I get that everyone likes the Cubs facing the Mets' remnants of a rotation, but the Giants' bullpen is fucking atrocious. I mean, you look at their roster for tonight's game and actually find yourself wondering of Casilla over Nathan was a good call.
The thing is you're guaranteed a crack at the Mets starters, with MadBum/Cueto/Snork all among the league leaders in IP you may not even get much of a chance at SF's bullpen. I'd rather deal with the Mets starters.
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2016, 12:12:36 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 05, 2016, 11:44:06 AM
I get that everyone likes the Cubs facing the Mets' remnants of a rotation, but the Giants' bullpen is fucking atrocious. I mean, you look at their roster for tonight's game and actually find yourself wondering of Casilla over Nathan was a good call.
The thing is you're guaranteed a crack at the Mets starters, with MadBum/Cueto/Snork all among the league leaders in IP you may not even get much of a chance at SF's bullpen. I'd rather deal with the Mets starters.
The Giants are also significantly better defensively.
Quote from: Eli on October 05, 2016, 01:00:47 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2016, 12:12:36 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 05, 2016, 11:44:06 AM
I get that everyone likes the Cubs facing the Mets' remnants of a rotation, but the Giants' bullpen is fucking atrocious. I mean, you look at their roster for tonight's game and actually find yourself wondering of Casilla over Nathan was a good call.
The thing is you're guaranteed a crack at the Mets starters, with MadBum/Cueto/Snork all among the league leaders in IP you may not even get much of a chance at SF's bullpen. I'd rather deal with the Mets starters.
The Giants are also significantly better defensively.
I think the current Giants roster is that of an 87 win team. They took a really bizarre route of getting there with the red hot first half and the garbage second half, but on paper they are still a good if flawed team. Their slump could randomly end and they could get as hot as they were before the break.
The current Mets roster is not a playoff team. Most of the contributors that got them there are hurt and they relied on some random hot streaks from guys like James Loney, who batted over .300 for like a month and then finished with the expected replacement level numbers anyway. If they played 162 games with just the 25 guys they have active today they'd probably win like 75 games. I want that team.
last 21 days:
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/34zeqo2.jpg)
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/4grs4m.jpg)
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2016, 02:34:38 PM
last 21 days:
(http://oi63.tinypic.com/34zeqo2.jpg)
(http://oi64.tinypic.com/4grs4m.jpg)
Neat? But I really don't think numbers leading into the postseason matter. I don't really care if the Mets were hot against the Phillies or whatever. The fact of the matter is Jay Bruce, 35 year old Granderson, Asdrubal Cabrera, and 27 year old rookie with a .360 BABIP Rivera are less talented ballplayers than Brandon Crawford, Denard Span, Buster Posey, etc.
I do like that Heyward action though.
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2016, 02:48:30 PMNeat? But I really don't think numbers leading into the postseason matter. I don't really care if the Mets were hot against the Phillies or whatever. The fact of the matter is Jay Bruce, 35 year old Granderson, Asdrubal Cabrera, and 27 year old rookie with a .360 BABIP Rivera are less talented ballplayers than Brandon Crawford, Denard Span, Buster Posey, etc.
Agreed. Just posting the data for curiosity's sake.
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 05, 2016, 03:07:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2016, 02:48:30 PMNeat? But I really don't think numbers leading into the postseason matter. I don't really care if the Mets were hot against the Phillies or whatever. The fact of the matter is Jay Bruce, 35 year old Granderson, Asdrubal Cabrera, and 27 year old rookie with a .360 BABIP Rivera are less talented ballplayers than Brandon Crawford, Denard Span, Buster Posey, etc.
Agreed. Just posting the data for curiosity's sake.
The data is the data after all.
Quote from: SKO on October 05, 2016, 02:48:30 PM
Neat? But I really don't think numbers leading into the postseason matter. I don't really care if the Mets were hot against the Phillies or whatever. The fact of the matter is Jay Bruce, 35 year old Granderson, Asdrubal Cabrera, and 27 year old rookie with a .360 BABIP Rivera are less talented ballplayers than Brandon Crawford, Denard Span, Buster Posey, etc.
Yeah, I'm not buying into the hot hand. The thing about hot teams is that they're hot...until they're not. The Cubs were hotter than shit the last 2 weeks of last year and through the first round and then not so much.
In fact, it is precisely
because of the fact that the Mets have been hot that I'd prefer to play them. When they cool off after tonight, it should make for quick work. Tables = turned, bitches.
Over 162 games, "hottest" and "best" tend to go together. Except for when Mark Grace is on the team.
Ugh. I'll admit I'm not feeling comfortable about this. It's all irrational and not based in fact, but they're feelings, man
Quote from: Yeti on October 06, 2016, 06:56:03 AM
Ugh. I'll admit I'm not feeling comfortable about this. It's all irrational and not based in fact, but they're feelings, man
Brace for Tonkrage.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 06, 2016, 07:04:55 AM
Quote from: Yeti on October 06, 2016, 06:56:03 AM
Ugh. I'll admit I'm not feeling comfortable about this. It's all irrational and not based in fact, but they're feelings, man
Brace for Tonkrage.
That's fine. I could use some good Bravado Fork, too.
So, the net-net seems to be that teams that make the playoffs are generally pretty good. Also, that awful Giants bullpen was incredible last night.
Quote from: Oleg on October 06, 2016, 08:34:42 AM
So, the net-net seems to be that teams that make the playoffs are generally pretty good. Also, that awful Giants bullpen was incredible last night.
Let's just be thankful that they got it out of their system.
Quote from: Oleg on October 06, 2016, 08:34:42 AM
So, the net-net seems to be that teams that make the playoffs are generally pretty good. Also, that awful Giants bullpen was incredible last night.
Didn't give up a hit. I'm skeered
SKO rightly pointed out that I'm a math dummy. Bumgarner won't be able to pitch until game 3. So we'll likely see:
Lester vs. Cueto
Hendricks vs. Snork
Arrieta vs. Bumgarner
Lackey vs. Moore
Lester vs. Cueto (Bumgarner in relief)
Quote from: R-V on October 06, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
SKO rightly pointed out that I'm a math dummy. Bumgarner won't be able to pitch until game 3. So we'll likely see:
Lester vs. Cueto
Hendricks vs. Snork
Arrieta vs. Bumgarner
Lackey vs. Moore
Lester vs. Cueto (Bumgarner in relief)
(http://i.imgur.com/tSGZKNk.jpg)
I definitely would find it super bad ass and possibly erotic if Jake Arrieta told us all to stop panicking and showed up in game three as Vintage 2015 Jake and told that stupid hick Bumgarner where to stick it.
I am not sure who Bumgarner hates the most on the Cubs (Baez? Soler? Lackey?), but I hope that guy takes him yard and takes a minute to get around the bases.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 06, 2016, 10:50:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 06, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
SKO rightly pointed out that I'm a math dummy. Bumgarner won't be able to pitch until game 3. So we'll likely see:
Lester vs. Cueto
Hendricks vs. Snork
Arrieta vs. Bumgarner
Lackey vs. Moore
Lester vs. Cueto (Bumgarner in relief)
(http://i.imgur.com/tSGZKNk.jpg)
It feels so good to have a reason to just flat out hate the Giants again.
Ok, "playing against the Cubs" is a fairly weak one, but I can make it work.
Quote from: D. Doluntap on October 06, 2016, 11:19:35 AM
I am not sure who Bumgarner hates the most on the Cubs (Baez? Soler? Lackey?), but I hope that guy takes him yard and takes a minute to get around the bases.
Lackey isn't the type for him to hate.
Quote from: PenFoe on October 06, 2016, 10:50:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 06, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
SKO rightly pointed out that I'm a math dummy. Bumgarner won't be able to pitch until game 3. So we'll likely see:
Lester vs. Cueto
Hendricks vs. Snork
Arrieta vs. Bumgarner
Lackey vs. Moore
Lester vs. Cueto (Bumgarner in relief)
(http://i.imgur.com/tSGZKNk.jpg)
Jake is going to have to be better. - Al
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on October 06, 2016, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on October 06, 2016, 10:50:53 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 06, 2016, 10:34:16 AM
SKO rightly pointed out that I'm a math dummy. Bumgarner won't be able to pitch until game 3. So we'll likely see:
Lester vs. Cueto
Hendricks vs. Snork
Arrieta vs. Bumgarner
Lackey vs. Moore
Lester vs. Cueto (Bumgarner in relief)
(http://i.imgur.com/tSGZKNk.jpg)
Jake is going to have to be better. - Al
Huge if true.
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant, La Stella
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Almost had it (http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/10/07/chicago-cubs-announce-nlds-roster/).
Quote from: R-V on October 07, 2016, 10:25:37 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant, La Stella
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Almost had it (http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/10/07/chicago-cubs-announce-nlds-roster/).
Yeah, I feel bad for MAX SEIZURE but Contreras' development (and utility in OF), Almora's defense (and the fact that he was actually hitting the ball better than Szczur down the stretch) combined with Szczur doing nothing of significance the last 6 weeks managed to work against him. He was probably close to a sure thing 2 months ago.
Quote from: R-V on October 07, 2016, 10:25:37 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant, La Stella
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Almost had it (http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/10/07/chicago-cubs-announce-nlds-roster/).
Quote from: Tonker on September 28, 2016, 02:01:40 AM
If you go with Szczur over LaStella, that means you've got Fowler, JHey, Soler, Almora, Bryant, Baez, Coghlan and Szczur for the OF and only Rizzo, Zobrist, Russell, Baez and Bryant for the IF. I think LaStella gets the nod on that basis.
Did have it. I am the best. The Cubs should just ask me about this shit and save themselves a load of worry.
Quote from: Tonker on October 07, 2016, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 07, 2016, 10:25:37 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant, La Stella
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Almost had it (http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/10/07/chicago-cubs-announce-nlds-roster/).
Quote from: Tonker on September 28, 2016, 02:01:40 AM
If you go with Szczur over LaStella, that means you've got Fowler, JHey, Soler, Almora, Bryant, Baez, Coghlan and Szczur for the OF and only Rizzo, Zobrist, Russell, Baez and Bryant for the IF. I think LaStella gets the nod on that basis.
Did have it. I am the best. The Cubs should just ask me about this shit and save themselves a load of worry.
Jed reads desipio
Quote from: Yeti on October 07, 2016, 11:50:10 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 07, 2016, 11:14:58 AM
Quote from: R-V on October 07, 2016, 10:25:37 AM
Quote from: R-V on September 22, 2016, 09:21:06 AM
For what it's worth (and the playing time numbers are probably worth more than the production), playoff roster candidates over the last 30 days:
Hammel - 26.2 IP, 6.08 ERA, 5.16 FIP
Cahill - 11.2 IP, 3.09 ERA, 5.53 FIP
Smith - 8.2 IP, 1.04 ERA, 2.79 FIP
Zastryzny - 7.2 IP, 1.17 ERA, 2.09 FIP
Montero - 44 PAs .973 OPS
Coghlan - 34 PAs .805 OPS
LaStella - 29 PAs .618 OPS
Szczur - 25 PAs .091 OPS
Almora - 15 PAs .734 OPS
Updated NLDS prediction assuming a healthy George & Pedro:
Contreras, Ross, Montero
Rizzo
Zobrist, Baez
Russell
Bryant, La Stella
Fowler, Heyward, Soler, Coghlan, Almora, Szczur
Lester
Hendricks
Arrieta
Lackey
Chapman
Rondon
Strop
Edwards
Montgomery
Grimm
Wood
Almost had it (http://www.bleachernation.com/2016/10/07/chicago-cubs-announce-nlds-roster/).
Quote from: Tonker on September 28, 2016, 02:01:40 AM
If you go with Szczur over LaStella, that means you've got Fowler, JHey, Soler, Almora, Bryant, Baez, Coghlan and Szczur for the OF and only Rizzo, Zobrist, Russell, Baez and Bryant for the IF. I think LaStella gets the nod on that basis.
Did have it. I am the best. The Cubs should just ask me about this shit and save themselves a load of worry.
Jed reads desipio
Haven't we put his secretary through enough?
Firebarn Snork, please.
Second guessing: should Almora have been in LF in the ninth? I'm not sure Posey's drive was catchable, but he would have had a better shot than Zobrist.
Quote from: Shooter on October 08, 2016, 02:25:33 AM
Second guessing: should Almora have been in LF in the ninth? I'm not sure Posey's drive was catchable, but he would have had a better shot than Zobrist.
Really hoping Zobrist's Coghlanesque ineptitude in left field was a one time only type of deal, because that was not a good game for him. The whiff on that garbage slide had me wincing.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 08, 2016, 04:56:47 AM
Quote from: Shooter on October 08, 2016, 02:25:33 AM
Second guessing: should Almora have been in LF in the ninth? I'm not sure Posey's drive was catchable, but he would have had a better shot than Zobrist.
Really hoping Zobrist's Coghlanesque ineptitude in left field was a one time only type of deal, because that was not a good game for him. The whiff on that garbage slide had me wincing.
We can probably chalk it up to the wind doing weird things with baseballs.
Travis Wood homering was freaking hilarious but it's not worth losing an effective Hendricks. Hope he's alright.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 08, 2016, 08:57:33 PM
Travis Wood homering was freaking hilarious but it's not worth losing an effective Hendricks. Hope he's alright.
He's fine. They're all fine.
All is well.
Posting this at 2:48 in the morning.
Quote from: flannj on October 09, 2016, 02:48:49 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 08, 2016, 08:57:33 PM
Travis Wood homering was freaking hilarious but it's not worth losing an effective Hendricks. Hope he's alright.
He's fine. They're all fine.
All is well.
Posting this at 2:48 in the morning.
Mate, at 0248 this morning, I was just sitting down to the top of the third. Got back to bed at 0530. It was 0600 yesterday. Fuck night games - how come the Cubs are - yet again - the only team that doesn't have a single fucking day game?
Quote from: Tonker on October 09, 2016, 05:39:09 AM
Fuck night games - how come the Cubs are - yet again - the only team that doesn't have a single fucking day game?
$$$
Quote from: ChuckD on October 09, 2016, 07:33:55 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 09, 2016, 05:39:09 AM
Fuck night games - how come the Cubs are - yet again - the only team that doesn't have a single fucking day game?
$$$
Also, they were the westernmost game today
In 1984, you would have thought the networks were going to go bankrupt having to broadcast a DAY postseason game. (never mind it was only 13 years since the first night World Series game). Since then, there have been 18 postseason games at Wrigley Field.
1989 NLCS Game 1: Night
1989 NLCS Game 2: Night (Game 5 on the road a day game)
1998 NLDS Game 3: Night (Game 1 on the road a day game)
2003 NLDS Game 3: Night (perfectly timed to conflict with my rehearsal dinner)
2003 NLDS Game 4: Day (perfectly timed to be played between my wedding and my reception)
2003 NLCS Game 1: Night
2003 NLCS Game 2: Night
2003 NLCS Game 6: Night
2003 NLCS Game 7: Night
2007 NLDS Game 2: Day
2008 NLDS Game 1: Late afternoon/night
2008 NLDS Game 2: Night
2015 NLDS Game 3: Late afternoon/night
2015 NLDS Game 4: Late afternoon/night
2015 NLCS Game 3: Night
2015 NLCS Game 4: Night
2016 NLDS Game 1: Night
2016 NLDS Game 2: Night
That's 13 pure night games, 3 more that started late enough they pretty much needed lights the whole game (but at least were before most kids' bedtimes), and just 2 that were day games.
Including 1984 Cubs are 2-2 in Wrigley Field postseason Day games, 5-8 at night, and 2-1 in late afternoon/early evening games.
I'm not sure what you can do with this information, but I'm sure Mike D. appreciates it.
Alright, John Lackey. This is what they signed you for. Let's see it.
Quote from: Brownie on October 10, 2016, 05:28:11 PM
2003 NLDS Game 4: Day (perfectly timed to be played between my wedding and my reception)
I remember that day...
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 11, 2016, 01:50:48 AM
Alright, John Lackey. This is what they signed you for. Let's see it.
Now, let's forget this waste of $16 million.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 11, 2016, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 11, 2016, 01:50:48 AM
Alright, John Lackey. This is what they signed you for. Let's see it.
Now, let's forget this waste of $16 million.
No, he's going to go again. Better to not write him off just yet.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on October 11, 2016, 09:38:09 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 11, 2016, 01:50:48 AM
Alright, John Lackey. This is what they signed you for. Let's see it.
Now, let's forget this waste of $16 million.
You're terrible at learning lessons, huh?
So we all want the Fightin' Dustys, right? (I don't know the answer, I'm asking.)
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on October 12, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
So we all want the Fightin' Dustys, right? (I don't know the answer, I'm asking.)
Yeah I'd rather have the Nats. Kershaw and Rich Hill haven't exactly covered themselves in glory so far in the series but their regular season numbers were so absurd and I fear their ability to dominate a short series more than the Nationals starters.
Quote from: SKO on October 12, 2016, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on October 12, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
So we all want the Fightin' Dustys, right? (I don't know the answer, I'm asking.)
Yeah I'd rather have the Nats. Kershaw and Rich Hill haven't exactly covered themselves in glory so far in the series but their regular season numbers were so absurd and I fear their ability to dominate a short series more than the Nationals starters.
I just don't want any more West Coast start times.
Quote from: CT III on October 12, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 12, 2016, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on October 12, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
So we all want the Fightin' Dustys, right? (I don't know the answer, I'm asking.)
Yeah I'd rather have the Nats. Kershaw and Rich Hill haven't exactly covered themselves in glory so far in the series but their regular season numbers were so absurd and I fear their ability to dominate a short series more than the Nationals starters.
I just don't want any more West Coast start times.
This is about as far as I go with having a preference.
In the words of a fucking beast, "Who gives a shit?"
Quote from: Oleg on October 12, 2016, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 12, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 12, 2016, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on October 12, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
So we all want the Fightin' Dustys, right? (I don't know the answer, I'm asking.)
Yeah I'd rather have the Nats. Kershaw and Rich Hill haven't exactly covered themselves in glory so far in the series but their regular season numbers were so absurd and I fear their ability to dominate a short series more than the Nationals starters.
I just don't want any more West Coast start times.
This is about as far as I go with having a preference.
In the words of a fucking beast, "Who gives a shit?"
ditto to this. The Cubs are going to fuck shit up in the NLCS, and I'd rather not have to call my dad at 2am his time to celebrate.
Quote from: Bort on October 12, 2016, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Oleg on October 12, 2016, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 12, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 12, 2016, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on October 12, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
So we all want the Fightin' Dustys, right? (I don't know the answer, I'm asking.)
Yeah I'd rather have the Nats. Kershaw and Rich Hill haven't exactly covered themselves in glory so far in the series but their regular season numbers were so absurd and I fear their ability to dominate a short series more than the Nationals starters.
I just don't want any more West Coast start times.
This is about as far as I go with having a preference.
In the words of a fucking beast, "Who gives a shit?"
ditto to this. The Cubs are going to fuck shit up in the NLCS, and I'd rather not have to call my dad at 2am his time to celebrate.
While I would like to avoid staying up as well, I dont think it matters. There are only 2 games being played, and the NLCS will be the 'prime time' game TV wise (CHI vs LA/WASH by far will trump CLE/TOR)
Quote from: Bort on October 12, 2016, 02:36:22 PM
Quote from: Oleg on October 12, 2016, 01:34:50 PM
Quote from: CT III on October 12, 2016, 01:26:20 PM
Quote from: SKO on October 12, 2016, 12:39:54 PM
Quote from: Grandmaster Wang on October 12, 2016, 12:37:04 PM
So we all want the Fightin' Dustys, right? (I don't know the answer, I'm asking.)
Yeah I'd rather have the Nats. Kershaw and Rich Hill haven't exactly covered themselves in glory so far in the series but their regular season numbers were so absurd and I fear their ability to dominate a short series more than the Nationals starters.
I just don't want any more West Coast start times.
This is about as far as I go with having a preference.
In the words of a fucking beast, "Who gives a shit?"
ditto to this. The Cubs are going to fuck shit up in the NLCS, and I'd rather not have to call my dad at 2am his time to celebrate.
For selfish reasons, I'd like for it to go 6. But I honestly think the Cubs are going to demolish whoever their victim is, and it might not make it to 5.
Good news, everybody! I'm in the queue to buy tickets to the NLCS.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 12, 2016, 05:56:50 PM
Good news, everybody! I'm in the queue to buy tickets to the NLCS.
Big deal. TEC is still on hold with Jim Hendry's secretary.
I have tickets for all three NLCS games at Dodger Stadium, if they exist. Turns out there is no ticket lottery here, you just go to the website and buy playoff tickets. Just like that. Mind-blowing.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 12, 2016, 07:01:59 PM
I have tickets for all three NLCS games at Dodger Stadium, if they exist. Turns out there is no ticket lottery here, you just go to the website and buy playoff tickets. Just like that. Mind-blowing.
It's Dodger Stadium. Do you even need a ticket before the third inning?
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 12, 2016, 07:28:13 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on October 12, 2016, 07:01:59 PM
I have tickets for all three NLCS games at Dodger Stadium, if they exist. Turns out there is no ticket lottery here, you just go to the website and buy playoff tickets. Just like that. Mind-blowing.
It's Dodger Stadium. Do you even need a ticket before the third inning?
One of the all-time great corollaries to one of the all-time iconic moments in MLB history is the sea of taillights outside Dodger Stadium caught by the camera that is principally tracking Kirk Gibson's home run off Dennis Eckersley in '88.
Baseball, please. Can it just start already?
The next two nights, the Cubs are taking this series by the balls.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 18, 2016, 02:40:00 PM
The next two nights, the Cubs are taking this series by the balls.
God, I hope you're right.
They 1st have to find their own balls.
Rich Hill. Jesus Fucking Christ
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 18, 2016, 02:40:00 PM
The next two nights, the Cubs are taking this series by the balls.
nailed it
Quote from: Eli on October 18, 2016, 10:41:50 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 18, 2016, 02:40:00 PM
The next two nights, the Cubs are taking this series by the balls.
nailed it
The 2015 NLCS offense has been back with a vengeance the last two games.
I think it's worth bearing in mind that the Cubs beat the Dodgers 4-3 in the regular season, and more to the point, they're currently 4-3 in the 2016 postseason.
EDIT: it's also worth staying off Twitter. Holy shit.
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2016, 07:20:56 AM
I think it's worth bearing in mind that the Cubs beat the Dodgers 4-3 in the regular season, and more to the point, they're currently 4-3 in the 2016 postseason.
EDIT: it's also worth staying off Twitter. Holy shit.
It's really not. At all. 1) Regular season head to heads don't mean shit in the postseason, and if you didn't learn that last year from last year's 7-0 regular season record vs the Mets I don't know what to tell you and 2)neither Hill nor Kershaw started a single one of those seven games. If this series goes to 7 they'll start 4 of them. It's not remotely applicable.
That said, fuck it, beat Urias and Maeda and then take Kershaw at home. It's gonna hai. Or it won't.
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2016, 07:20:56 AM
I think it's worth bearing in mind that the Cubs beat the Dodgers 4-3 in the regular season, and more to the point, they're currently 4-3 in the 2016 postseason.
EDIT: it's also worth staying off Twitter. Holy shit.
It's really not. At all. 1) Regular season head to heads don't mean shit in the postseason, and if you didn't learn that last year from last year's 7-0 regular season record vs the Mets I don't know what to tell you and 2)neither Hill nor Kershaw started a single one of those seven games. If this series goes to 7 they'll start 4 of them. It's not remotely applicable.
That said, fuck it, beat Urias and Maeda and then take Kershaw at home. It's gonna hai. Or it won't.
Well, fuck off, then. Go and wallow in your own shit somewhere where I don't have to listen to it.
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2016, 07:43:48 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2016, 07:20:56 AM
I think it's worth bearing in mind that the Cubs beat the Dodgers 4-3 in the regular season, and more to the point, they're currently 4-3 in the 2016 postseason.
EDIT: it's also worth staying off Twitter. Holy shit.
It's really not. At all. 1) Regular season head to heads don't mean shit in the postseason, and if you didn't learn that last year from last year's 7-0 regular season record vs the Mets I don't know what to tell you and 2)neither Hill nor Kershaw started a single one of those seven games. If this series goes to 7 they'll start 4 of them. It's not remotely applicable.
That said, fuck it, beat Urias and Maeda and then take Kershaw at home. It's gonna hai. Or it won't.
Well, fuck off, then. Go and wallow in your own shit somewhere where I don't have to listen to it.
Nothing I said there was wallowing in my own shit. I pointed out correctly that regular season head to head is irrelevant, then said they were very much still in it with winnable matchups against the back half of the Dodger rotation and then a crack at Kershaw at home. More importantly, I really don't give a fuck how you want me to feel about this. Some people are going to be mad about getting shut out in back to back games in the postseason after not even doing that in the regular season for two and a half years. People will get mad about sports. There is no rule that mandates being a cheerleader. Maybe instead of expressing surprise every fucking time that "gorsh, people sure are upset about losing again",
you should be the one staying off the internet.
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2016, 07:48:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2016, 07:43:48 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2016, 07:20:56 AM
I think it's worth bearing in mind that the Cubs beat the Dodgers 4-3 in the regular season, and more to the point, they're currently 4-3 in the 2016 postseason.
EDIT: it's also worth staying off Twitter. Holy shit.
It's really not. At all. 1) Regular season head to heads don't mean shit in the postseason, and if you didn't learn that last year from last year's 7-0 regular season record vs the Mets I don't know what to tell you and 2)neither Hill nor Kershaw started a single one of those seven games. If this series goes to 7 they'll start 4 of them. It's not remotely applicable.
That said, fuck it, beat Urias and Maeda and then take Kershaw at home. It's gonna hai. Or it won't.
Well, fuck off, then. Go and wallow in your own shit somewhere where I don't have to listen to it.
Nothing I said there was wallowing in my own shit. I pointed out correctly that regular season head to head is irrelevant, then said they were very much still in it with winnable matchups against the back half of the Dodger rotation and then a crack at Kershaw at home. More importantly, I really don't give a fuck how you want me to feel about this. Some people are going to be mad about getting shut out in back to back games in the postseason after not even doing that in the regular season for two and a half years. People will get mad about sports. There is no rule that mandates being a cheerleader. Maybe instead of expressing surprise every fucking time that "gorsh, people sure are upset about losing again", you should be the one staying off the internet.
No, seriously, though - shut up and fuck off.
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2016, 07:49:22 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2016, 07:48:26 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2016, 07:43:48 AM
Quote from: SKO on October 19, 2016, 07:41:41 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 19, 2016, 07:20:56 AM
I think it's worth bearing in mind that the Cubs beat the Dodgers 4-3 in the regular season, and more to the point, they're currently 4-3 in the 2016 postseason.
EDIT: it's also worth staying off Twitter. Holy shit.
It's really not. At all. 1) Regular season head to heads don't mean shit in the postseason, and if you didn't learn that last year from last year's 7-0 regular season record vs the Mets I don't know what to tell you and 2)neither Hill nor Kershaw started a single one of those seven games. If this series goes to 7 they'll start 4 of them. It's not remotely applicable.
That said, fuck it, beat Urias and Maeda and then take Kershaw at home. It's gonna hai. Or it won't.
Well, fuck off, then. Go and wallow in your own shit somewhere where I don't have to listen to it.
Nothing I said there was wallowing in my own shit. I pointed out correctly that regular season head to head is irrelevant, then said they were very much still in it with winnable matchups against the back half of the Dodger rotation and then a crack at Kershaw at home. More importantly, I really don't give a fuck how you want me to feel about this. Some people are going to be mad about getting shut out in back to back games in the postseason after not even doing that in the regular season for two and a half years. People will get mad about sports. There is no rule that mandates being a cheerleader. Maybe instead of expressing surprise every fucking time that "gorsh, people sure are upset about losing again", you should be the one staying off the internet.
No, seriously, though - shut up and fuck off.
I don't know who made you the negativity police, but "I don't want to hear it" is a bullshit response. If people want to gripe, you don't get to tell them they can't.
Intrepid Reader: Mick Jagger
Why are we fighting?
Look--it'll be fine. Or it won't be. No matter. I've grown accustomed to SKO's schtick, and I'm grateful at least that I don't worked up like that myself. I almost feel bad for him. Someone's gotta be that guy I suppose (even in our sealed-off Slackboc we've got room for 1 morph). I just feel like I did when I'd listen to games on WGN and bad things would happen. Santo would make them worse and all out-of-proportiony-y, and I'd get get annoyed because I didn't need his whining to add to my already-present annoyance at the action on the field. But whatever. The god's honest truth, for me, is that I'm enjoying the fuck out of this right now. There are, at minimum, 18 innings of baseball assured us. I know it feels like the Mets series right now (and might well continue to) but this series can still turn on one game--which would have to be tonight for the Cubs-- and one game can turn on one swing. If they lose tonight it's probably over but if they win tonight, and do so with more than half the lineup contributing, I would think they'll win the series. I don't want to pretend I don't at least privately share some of SKO's anguish, but my overriding emotion right now is joy not dread. Joy that this fucking team has one more chance to light a spark. The odds of that happening seem no worse, to me, than them mouse-farting out of the playoffs like they did last year but I'll take 'em whatever because I ain't got a choice so stick that in your FearPipe and smoke it.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 19, 2016, 09:32:56 AM
Intrepid Reader: Mick Jagger
Why are we fighting?
Look--it'll be fine. Or it won't be. No matter. I've grown accustomed to SKO's schtick, and I'm grateful at least I'm not that I don't worked up like that myself. I almost feel bad for him. Someone's gotta be that guy I suppose (even in our sealed-off Slackboc we've got room for 1 morph). I just feel like I did when I'd listen to games on WGN and bad things would happen. Santo would make them worse and all out-of-proportiony-y, and I'd get get annoyed because I didn't need his whining to add to my already-present annoyance at the action on the field. But whatever. The god's honest truth, for me, is that I'm enjoying the fuck out of this right now. There are, at minimum, 18 innings of baseball assured us. I know it feels like the Mets series right now (and might well continue to) but this series can still turn on one game--which would have to be tonight for the Cubs-- and one game can turn on one swing. If they lose tonight it's probably over but if they win tonight, and do so with more than half the lineup contributing, I would think they'll win the series. I don't want to pretend I don't at least privately share some of SKO's anguish, but my overriding emotion right now is joy not dread. Joy that this fucking team has one more chance to light a spark. The odds of that happening seem no worse, to me, than them mouse-farting out of the playoffs like they did last year but I'll take 'em whatever because I ain't got a choice so stick that in your FearPipe and smoke it.
I actually associate this line with Christopher Walken in the classic movie The Rundown.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 19, 2016, 09:32:56 AM
Intrepid Reader: Mick Jagger
Why are we fighting?
Look--it'll be fine. Or it won't be. No matter. I've grown accustomed to SKO's schtick, and I'm grateful at least that I don't worked up like that myself. I almost feel bad for him. Someone's gotta be that guy I suppose (even in our sealed-off Slackboc we've got room for 1 morph). I just feel like I did when I'd listen to games on WGN and bad things would happen. Santo would make them worse and all out-of-proportiony-y, and I'd get get annoyed because I didn't need his whining to add to my already-present annoyance at the action on the field. But whatever. The god's honest truth, for me, is that I'm enjoying the fuck out of this right now. There are, at minimum, 18 innings of baseball assured us. I know it feels like the Mets series right now (and might well continue to) but this series can still turn on one game--which would have to be tonight for the Cubs-- and one game can turn on one swing. If they lose tonight it's probably over but if they win tonight, and do so with more than half the lineup contributing, I would think they'll win the series. I don't want to pretend I don't at least privately share some of SKO's anguish, but my overriding emotion right now is joy not dread. Joy that this fucking team has one more chance to light a spark. The odds of that happening seem no worse, to me, than them mouse-farting out of the playoffs like they did last year but I'll take 'em whatever because I ain't got a choice so stick that in your FearPipe and smoke it.
Consider me also grateful at least I'm not that I don't worked up like that myself
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 09:45:55 AM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 19, 2016, 09:32:56 AM
Intrepid Reader: Mick Jagger
Why are we fighting?
Look--it'll be fine. Or it won't be. No matter. I've grown accustomed to SKO's schtick, and I'm grateful at least that I don't worked up like that myself. I almost feel bad for him. Someone's gotta be that guy I suppose (even in our sealed-off Slackboc we've got room for 1 morph). I just feel like I did when I'd listen to games on WGN and bad things would happen. Santo would make them worse and all out-of-proportiony-y, and I'd get get annoyed because I didn't need his whining to add to my already-present annoyance at the action on the field. But whatever. The god's honest truth, for me, is that I'm enjoying the fuck out of this right now. There are, at minimum, 18 innings of baseball assured us. I know it feels like the Mets series right now (and might well continue to) but this series can still turn on one game--which would have to be tonight for the Cubs-- and one game can turn on one swing. If they lose tonight it's probably over but if they win tonight, and do so with more than half the lineup contributing, I would think they'll win the series. I don't want to pretend I don't at least privately share some of SKO's anguish, but my overriding emotion right now is joy not dread. Joy that this fucking team has one more chance to light a spark. The odds of that happening seem no worse, to me, than them mouse-farting out of the playoffs like they did last year but I'll take 'em whatever because I ain't got a choice so stick that in your FearPipe and smoke it.
Consider me also grateful at least I'm not that I don't worked up like that myself
Exactly!
At this stage in my life, I can't watch the games when they go badly. I had turned off the TV after the Cubs squandered a couple of opportunities. I don't expect them to win the series, because they haven't overcome my biggest concern: the bats are dead, just like last year. It's hard to win a post season series when a good chunk of your offense come from your pitchers' hot bats.
I'm sorry if this hot take of rampant criticism and lamenting is too much for some of you too handle, but if it is, maybe it shouldn't be me who goes elsewhere.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 19, 2016, 10:25:39 AM
At this stage in my life, I can't watch the games when they go badly. I had turned off the TV after the Cubs squandered a couple of opportunities. I don't expect them to win the series, because they haven't overcome my biggest concern: the bats are dead, just like last year. It's hard to win a post season series when a good chunk of your offense come from your pitchers' hot bats.
I'm sorry if this hot take of rampant criticism and lamenting is too much for some of you too handle, but if it is, maybe it shouldn't be me who goes elsewhere.
Pro tip: Being passive-aggressive is pretty much asking for it.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 19, 2016, 10:25:39 AM
At this stage in my life, I can't watch the games when they go badly. I had turned off the TV after the Cubs squandered a couple of opportunities. I don't expect them to win the series, because they haven't overcome my biggest concern: the bats are dead, just like last year. It's hard to win a post season series when a good chunk of your offense come from your pitchers' hot bats.
I'm sorry if this hot take of rampant criticism and lamenting is too much for some of you too handle, but if it is, maybe it shouldn't be me who goes elsewhere.
Ah, Kurt. You have no idea how reassuring it is to me that we disagree.
ABORTIONS FOR ALL!
So I realize none of this matters if Dex, Rizzo and Zobrist continue to fail do their thing and I don't mean to be all nuclear but better now than Game 5. Sorry Addy, but go have a blow. Here's what I'd like to see tonight.
Dex CF
WillyCon C
KB 3B
Rizz 1B
Zobes 2B
Javy SS
Soler LF
Lackey P
Almora RF
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Huh?
Quote from: ChuckD on October 19, 2016, 12:12:19 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Huh?
Had Gonzalez not homered, the Cubs would've been awarded 2 runs.
Don't ask me how the Dodgers would then score their
real run though. *scratches head*
Quote from: ChuckD on October 19, 2016, 12:12:19 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Huh?
Don't think, just
believe.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Or they're a fluky Montero grand slam away from being down 3-0.
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Or they're a fluky Montero grand slam away from being down 3-0.
These are both awful hypotheticals.
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 19, 2016, 12:32:49 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Or they're a fluky Montero grand slam away from being down 3-0.
These are both awful hypotheticals.
I don't actually think mine is any good. Just saying, if we're taking away things teams have done to win games, it can go both ways.
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:34:07 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 19, 2016, 12:32:49 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Or they're a fluky Montero grand slam away from being down 3-0.
These are both awful hypotheticals.
I don't actually think mine is any good. Just saying, if we're taking away things teams have done to win games, it can go both ways.
What if the games were never actually played?
Quote from: Oleg on October 19, 2016, 12:35:17 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:34:07 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 19, 2016, 12:32:49 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Or they're a fluky Montero grand slam away from being down 3-0.
These are both awful hypotheticals.
I don't actually think mine is any good. Just saying, if we're taking away things teams have done to win games, it can go both ways.
What if the games were never actually played?
If only.
Quote from: Oleg on October 19, 2016, 12:35:17 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:34:07 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 19, 2016, 12:32:49 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Or they're a fluky Montero grand slam away from being down 3-0.
These are both awful hypotheticals.
I don't actually think mine is any good. Just saying, if we're taking away things teams have done to win games, it can go both ways.
What if the games were never actually played?
CT wouldn't be admin.
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:34:07 PM
Quote from: Cannonball Titcomb on October 19, 2016, 12:32:49 PM
Quote from: Eli on October 19, 2016, 12:25:31 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 19, 2016, 11:16:45 AM
As bleak as some people are making things look, the Cubs - anemic offense and all - are an Adrian Gonzalez wind-aided HR away from being up 2-1 in the series.
So the Cubs have held their own while playing at their worst. We're a long fucking way from being finished here.
Or they're a fluky Montero grand slam away from being down 3-0.
These are both awful hypotheticals.
I don't actually think mine is any good. Just saying, if we're taking away things teams have done to win games, it can go both ways.
Ah the All Yellon Principle, yes I remember...
I'm not on the Kurtsko train, but I do dread losing one of the few sources of pleasure in my life any sooner than possible.
[Edit.―Almost forgot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDdLgBO0Nw).]
Quote from: Wheezer on October 19, 2016, 12:55:21 PM
I'm not on the Kurtsko train, but I do dread losing one of the few sources of pleasure in my life any sooner than possible.
[Edit.―Almost forgot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDdLgBO0Nw).]
You still have ramen, right?
Quote from: Wheezer on October 19, 2016, 12:55:21 PM
I'm not on the Kurtsko train, but I do dread losing one of the few sources of pleasure in my life any sooner than possible.
[Edit.―Almost forgot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBDdLgBO0Nw).]
I don't think they're DOOMED. I just wouldn't be surprised if they were.
Win tomorrow. Then beat the shit out of Kershaw. Don't let the Dodgers sniff another win.
Quote from: Bort on October 19, 2016, 11:01:14 AM
ABORTIONS FOR ALL!
But I wanted a tiny American flag.
Quote from: CT III on October 20, 2016, 11:59:37 AM
Quote from: Tonker on October 20, 2016, 11:55:10 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 20, 2016, 11:46:59 AM
Quote from: thehawk on October 20, 2016, 11:40:38 AM
Quote from: Bort on October 19, 2016, 11:01:14 AM
ABORTIONS FOR ALL!
But I wanted a tiny American flag.
ABORTIONS FOR NONE!
But I wanted an abortion.
Then why did you insist that SKO stop posting?
ABORTIONS FOR SOME, ALOE FOR SKO'S SICK BURN.
Fuck Kershaw. I want him hitting the showers before the 5th. Go for the kill, Cubs.
I'm looking forward to the death of the word "since" as it relates to the Cubs.
"Since the Cubs won the pennant..."
"Since the Cubs won the World Series..."
Put this shit to rest. Make "since" somebody else's word.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on October 21, 2016, 09:12:08 AM
I'm looking forward to the death of the word "since" as it relates to the Cubs.
"Since the Cubs won the pennant..."
"Since the Cubs won the World Series..."
Put this shit to rest. Make "since" somebody else's word.
*looks ahead 2 weeks*
Cleveland would be a nice place for it to land.
(https://doctoromed.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/piglet-pooh-burn-motherfucker.jpg?w=500)
Schwarber going to AFL. Cubs hoping he can DH if they make the World Series, according to ESPN.
Quote from: Shooter on October 22, 2016, 01:49:04 PM
Schwarber going to AFL. Cubs hoping he can DH if they make the World Series, according to ESPN.
Holy. Shit.
More.
Quote from: Canadouche on October 22, 2016, 02:00:34 PM
Quote from: Shooter on October 22, 2016, 01:49:04 PM
Schwarber going to AFL. Cubs hoping he can DH if they make the World Series, according to ESPN.
Holy. Shit.
Thinking about Willson and Kyle going back to back with equally epic bat flips in all four games. Came a little.
RIZZO!
Shirtless hugs on me.
I'm not sure which was more fun...watching the Chicago Cubs win their first pennant in 71 years or getting Rob Neyer asshurt on Twitter. It's pretty damn close.
The ending felt weird. There was no build up to the final out. Just 6-4-3 and done.
Not complaining, obviously.
DPD. Hendricks should also have been co-MVP. Not his fault the Cubs couldn't touch Kershaw in game two.
Quote from: Shooter on October 23, 2016, 01:40:34 AM
DPD. Hendricks should also have been co-MVP. Not his fault the Cubs couldn't touch Kershaw in game two.
And it was extra-enjoyable that after all the fellating of Kershaw, Hendricks and Chapman held the Dodgers to the minimum number of batters.
I had fun.