Do you consider there to be a difference between "fine" and "mediocre"? Would you use them as synonyms? Which one would you say is better, if they are not synonyms.
Mediocre definitely has negative connotations.
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
Do you consider there to be a difference between "fine" and "mediocre"? Would you use them as synonyms? Which one would you say is better, if they are not synonyms.
There are restaurants that promise "fine dining", you can say Jennifer Lawrence is fine as hell.
Mediocre would definitely be on a level somewhere below that.
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
Do you consider there to be a difference between "fine" and "mediocre"? Would you use them as synonyms? Which one would you say is better, if they are not synonyms.
For me, the only time "fine" and "mediocre" are somewhat closely related is when you say "I'm fine" which, to me, is a middle of the road response and could have similar standing to mediocre. Beyond that, Fine >> Mediocre.
Fun times in Iowa
If the context here is that your wife said she's "fine" with you doing something -- she's not fine with you doing it.
Pay the man.
Quote from: ChuckD on January 11, 2016, 02:39:37 PM
If the context here is that your wife said she's "fine" with you doing something -- she's not fine with you doing it.
It's worse if you have a first name that starts with F, so both the "Fine" and "Frank" can get hissed out.
Since SKO is apparently not going to provide us with any context, here's my take:
Fine wine, fine dining, fine arts > Mediocre
How was your day? Fine. = Mediocre
I'm gonna be out until 3am with the guys tonight. FINE. < Mediocre
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
Do you consider there to be a difference between "fine" and "mediocre"? Would you use them as synonyms? Which one would you say is better, if they are not synonyms.
I think fine, when not attached to dining/wine/etc., is neutral. "My day was fine." Basically, you're saying nothing and moving on in the conversation.
Mediocre is technically supposed to mean "middling" but I think its meaning has changed and become something that means below average.
Basically, fine is the new mediocre.
Quote from: Eli on January 11, 2016, 03:28:43 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
Do you consider there to be a difference between "fine" and "mediocre"? Would you use them as synonyms? Which one would you say is better, if they are not synonyms.
I think fine, when not attached to dining/wine/etc., is neutral. "My day was fine." Basically, you're saying nothing and moving on in the conversation.
Mediocre is technically supposed to mean "middling" but I think its meaning has changed and become something that means below average.
Basically, fine is the new mediocre.
God damn, Millenials!
Quote from: Eli on January 11, 2016, 03:28:43 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 02:19:50 PM
Do you consider there to be a difference between "fine" and "mediocre"? Would you use them as synonyms? Which one would you say is better, if they are not synonyms.
I think fine, when not attached to dining/wine/etc., is neutral. "My day was fine." Basically, you're saying nothing and moving on in the conversation.
Mediocre is technically supposed to mean "middling" but I think its meaning has changed and become something that means below average.
Basically, fine is the new mediocre.
I think this is right. Mediocre is used to describe something straddling the line between good and bad and where more is expected. When people without vaginas say something is fine, they most often mean that this situation is good enough and they consider this matter now closed.
Quote from: ChuckD on January 11, 2016, 02:39:37 PM
If the context here is that your wife said she's "fine" with you doing something -- she's not fine with you doing it.
No this is not related to that. I am smart enough to recognize that.
My friend said an actress was "fine" in a movie, then later said she was "mediocre" in the movie, and insisted the two were synonyms, while I argued mediocre most definitely is a worse thing to call someone than fine.
DPD, but fine, when used 90% of the time in daily conversation, means "good but ordinary." I had a fine day= my day was good, but nothing of note occurred. Mediocre is definitely like "meets bare minimum standards but is in no way good."
used in a sentence: "Mark DeRosa is a fine second baseman" whereas "Jason Marquis is a mediocre 5th starter"
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
DPD, but fine, when used 90% of the time in daily conversation, means "good but ordinary." I had a fine day= my day was good, but nothing of note occurred. Mediocre is definitely like "meets bare minimum standards but is in no way good."
used in a sentence: "Mark DeRosa is a fine second baseman" whereas "Jason Marquis is a mediocre 5th starter"
I feel like you came up with this example specifically to enrage Huey as much as possible.
So, bravo.
Quote from: CT III on January 11, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
DPD, but fine, when used 90% of the time in daily conversation, means "good but ordinary." I had a fine day= my day was good, but nothing of note occurred. Mediocre is definitely like "meets bare minimum standards but is in no way good."
used in a sentence: "Mark DeRosa is a fine second baseman" whereas "Jason Marquis is a mediocre 5th starter"
I feel like you came up with this example specifically to enrage Huey as much as possible.
So, bravo.
(http://i.imgur.com/BxDgc0S.jpg)
Quote from: PenFoe on January 11, 2016, 04:17:45 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 11, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
DPD, but fine, when used 90% of the time in daily conversation, means "good but ordinary." I had a fine day= my day was good, but nothing of note occurred. Mediocre is definitely like "meets bare minimum standards but is in no way good."
used in a sentence: "Mark DeRosa is a fine second baseman" whereas "Jason Marquis is a mediocre 5th starter"
I feel like you came up with this example specifically to enrage Huey as much as possible.
So, bravo.
(http://i.imgur.com/BxDgc0S.jpg)
That lineup is not so fine.
Quote from: Brownie on January 11, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 11, 2016, 04:17:45 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 11, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
DPD, but fine, when used 90% of the time in daily conversation, means "good but ordinary." I had a fine day= my day was good, but nothing of note occurred. Mediocre is definitely like "meets bare minimum standards but is in no way good."
used in a sentence: "Mark DeRosa is a fine second baseman" whereas "Jason Marquis is a mediocre 5th starter"
I feel like you came up with this example specifically to enrage Huey as much as possible.
So, bravo.
(http://i.imgur.com/BxDgc0S.jpg)
That lineup is not so fine.
Holy shit when did Lou Montanez ever actually play for the Cubs? AND BAT THIRD?
Quote from: CT III on January 11, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
DPD, but fine, when used 90% of the time in daily conversation, means "good but ordinary." I had a fine day= my day was good, but nothing of note occurred. Mediocre is definitely like "meets bare minimum standards but is in no way good."
used in a sentence: "Mark DeRosa is a fine second baseman" whereas "Jason Marquis is a mediocre 5th starter"
I feel like you came up with this example specifically to enrage Huey as much as possible.
So, bravo.
Mark DeRosa
was a fine second baseman. He was also an annoying cockgoblin who shat the tub in big moments in successive postseasons but I've no truck with the notion that he was a fine second baseman.
FILL IN THE BLANK:
This is a _____ (fine mediocre) thread.
When I first saw her
She looked alright,
Second time that I saw her
She looked outta sight.
And I said,
You're lookin' fine,
You're lookin' fine,
You're lookin' fine,
And I feel alright,
Yes, I feel alright.
She got all the angles,
So directly applied.
And when I see her,
I have to cry,
You're lookin' fine,
You're lookin' fine,
You're lookin' fine,
And I feel alright,
Yeah, I feel alright.
You're lookin' fine,
You're lookin' fine,
You're lookin' fine,
And I feel alright,
And I feel alright.
When Ray Davies writes a song that includes the word "mediocre" we can talk about synonyms.
(Yes I know it's not the same context that you're asking about but any chance to quote the Kinks I'm going for it. So screw all of you.)
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 04:32:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 11, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 11, 2016, 04:17:45 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 11, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
DPD, but fine, when used 90% of the time in daily conversation, means "good but ordinary." I had a fine day= my day was good, but nothing of note occurred. Mediocre is definitely like "meets bare minimum standards but is in no way good."
used in a sentence: "Mark DeRosa is a fine second baseman" whereas "Jason Marquis is a mediocre 5th starter"
I feel like you came up with this example specifically to enrage Huey as much as possible.
So, bravo.
(http://i.imgur.com/BxDgc0S.jpg)
That lineup is not so fine.
Holy shit when did Lou Montanez ever actually play for the Cubs? AND BAT THIRD?
Nice choice(s), Ed/Jim.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on January 11, 2016, 08:13:22 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 04:32:43 PM
Quote from: Brownie on January 11, 2016, 04:23:48 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on January 11, 2016, 04:17:45 PM
Quote from: CT III on January 11, 2016, 04:14:29 PM
Quote from: SKO on January 11, 2016, 04:09:16 PM
DPD, but fine, when used 90% of the time in daily conversation, means "good but ordinary." I had a fine day= my day was good, but nothing of note occurred. Mediocre is definitely like "meets bare minimum standards but is in no way good."
used in a sentence: "Mark DeRosa is a fine second baseman" whereas "Jason Marquis is a mediocre 5th starter"
I feel like you came up with this example specifically to enrage Huey as much as possible.
So, bravo.
(http://i.imgur.com/BxDgc0S.jpg)
That lineup is not so fine.
Holy shit when did Lou Montanez ever actually play for the Cubs? AND BAT THIRD?
Nice choice(s), Ed/Jim.
Wow an outfield of Joyce DeWitt, Colvin, and Montanez? That's definitely sub-fine. How'd they ever win 8?