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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2640 on: May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM »
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Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 
I can't believe I even know these people. I'm ashamed of my internet life.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2641 on: May 29, 2015, 11:11:38 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah it was a joke, son. Kris Bryant is the awesomest and we're all better for it.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2642 on: May 29, 2015, 11:19:15 AM »
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:11:38 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah it was a joke, son. Kris Bryant is the awesomest and we're all better for it.

I'm never going to forgive you people.
I can't believe I even know these people. I'm ashamed of my internet life.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2643 on: May 29, 2015, 11:46:53 AM »
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2644 on: May 29, 2015, 11:48:45 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

Pen already made this exact post like a month ago and Eli already made that exact reply and posted Glaus Age 23 season when he hit 47 homers. Then Pen posted a Kurt Photoshop of Eli wearing a Glaus jersey and apparently Desipio today is a re-run.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2645 on: May 29, 2015, 11:50:00 AM »
See:

Quote from: PenFoe on May 15, 2015, 04:06:07 PM
Quote from: Eli on May 15, 2015, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 15, 2015, 02:54:47 PM
First 96 ABs:

Kris Bryant: .281/.419/.479  4 HR, 37 Ks/21 BBs.
Troy Glaus: .226/.286/.330  1 HR, 25 Ks/9 BBs

Comparing ages:

Troy Glaus age 23 season: .284/.404./.604, 47 HR. Let's hope for that.

Eli at Bryant's HOF Induction: 2042


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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2646 on: May 29, 2015, 11:50:29 AM »
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

Pen already made this exact post like a month ago and Eli already made that exact reply and posted Glaus Age 23 season when he hit 47 homers. Then Pen posted a Kurt Photoshop of Eli wearing a Glaus jersey and apparently Desipio today is a re-run.

I was checking out Glaus' page. He's 38 today. Weird that he retired at age 33 - I guess he must have broken down? I don't recall what happened there. In any case he maximized the hell out of his time in the bigs.  

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2647 on: May 29, 2015, 11:51:43 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

Pen already made this exact post like a month ago and Eli already made that exact reply and posted Glaus Age 23 season when he hit 47 homers. Then Pen posted a Kurt Photoshop of Eli wearing a Glaus jersey and apparently Desipio today is a re-run.

I was checking out Glaus' page. He's 38 today. Weird that he retired at age 33 - I guess he must have broken down? I don't recall what happened there. In any case he maximized the hell out of his time in the bigs.  

If by maximized you mean he made almost $79 million, then yes - he maximized his time. 
I can't believe I even know these people. I'm ashamed of my internet life.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2648 on: May 29, 2015, 11:53:18 AM »
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

Pen already made this exact post like a month ago and Eli already made that exact reply and posted Glaus Age 23 season when he hit 47 homers. Then Pen posted a Kurt Photoshop of Eli wearing a Glaus jersey and apparently Desipio today is a re-run.

I was checking out Glaus' page. He's 38 today. Weird that he retired at age 33 - I guess he must have broken down? I don't recall what happened there. In any case he maximized the hell out of his time in the bigs.  

He had serious back injuries starting around 2003 if I remember. Made him pretty useless in the field after a while and shortened his career, but he had an OPS+ of 113 or greater in basically every year he played. It's STILL not an insult to say Bryant has similar ability regardless of what Pen thinks, you'd just hope that Bryant has better health.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2649 on: May 29, 2015, 12:00:09 PM »
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

Pen already made this exact post like a month ago and Eli already made that exact reply and posted Glaus Age 23 season when he hit 47 homers. Then Pen posted a Kurt Photoshop of Eli wearing a Glaus jersey and apparently Desipio today is a re-run.

I was checking out Glaus' page. He's 38 today. Weird that he retired at age 33 - I guess he must have broken down? I don't recall what happened there. In any case he maximized the hell out of his time in the bigs.  

If by maximized you mean he made almost $79 million, then yes - he maximized his time. 

I meant his offensive numbers you imbecile.

Speaking of money Darryl Strawberry only made 30 million for his whole career.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2650 on: May 29, 2015, 12:01:36 PM »
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 12:00:09 PM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:51:43 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:48:45 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 11:46:53 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 11:07:19 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 11:01:22 AM
Quote from: PANK! on May 29, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Quote from: SKO on May 29, 2015, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: ChuckD on May 29, 2015, 10:50:40 AM
Quote from: PenFoe on May 29, 2015, 10:39:43 AM
Quote from: Eli on May 29, 2015, 09:21:53 AM
Quote from: Slaky on May 29, 2015, 08:44:57 AM
Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

Pen already made this exact post like a month ago and Eli already made that exact reply and posted Glaus Age 23 season when he hit 47 homers. Then Pen posted a Kurt Photoshop of Eli wearing a Glaus jersey and apparently Desipio today is a re-run.

I was checking out Glaus' page. He's 38 today. Weird that he retired at age 33 - I guess he must have broken down? I don't recall what happened there. In any case he maximized the hell out of his time in the bigs.  

If by maximized you mean he made almost $79 million, then yes - he maximized his time. 

I meant his offensive numbers you imbecile.

Speaking of money Darryl Strawberry only made 30 million for his whole career.

You can buy plenty of coke for 30 mill.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2651 on: May 29, 2015, 12:16:25 PM »
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Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

Pen already made this exact post like a month ago and Eli already made that exact reply and posted Glaus Age 23 season when he hit 47 homers. Then Pen posted a Kurt Photoshop of Eli wearing a Glaus jersey and apparently Desipio today is a re-run.

I was checking out Glaus' page. He's 38 today. Weird that he retired at age 33 - I guess he must have broken down? I don't recall what happened there. In any case he maximized the hell out of his time in the bigs.  

If by maximized you mean he made almost $79 million, then yes - he maximized his time. 

I meant his offensive numbers you imbecile.

Speaking of money Darryl Strawberry only made 30 million for his whole career.

You can buy plenty of coke for 30 mill.

Or cake.  You can buy fucking LOADS of cake for 30 mill.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2652 on: May 29, 2015, 12:16:45 PM »
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Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

Pen already made this exact post like a month ago and Eli already made that exact reply and posted Glaus Age 23 season when he hit 47 homers. Then Pen posted a Kurt Photoshop of Eli wearing a Glaus jersey and apparently Desipio today is a re-run.

I was checking out Glaus' page. He's 38 today. Weird that he retired at age 33 - I guess he must have broken down? I don't recall what happened there. In any case he maximized the hell out of his time in the bigs.  

If by maximized you mean he made almost $79 million, then yes - he maximized his time. 

I meant his offensive numbers you imbecile.

Speaking of money Darryl Strawberry only made 30 million for his whole career.

You can buy plenty of coke for 30 mill.

Or cake.  You can buy fucking LOADS of cake for 30 mill.

Javy Baez certainly could.
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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2653 on: May 29, 2015, 12:23:21 PM »
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Just catching up on this Eloy stuff. So I'm curious as to the factors at work in his development. On one hand, he's 17. On another hand, he's finally starting organized, non-ST ball in mid June. On the third hand, I can't help but wonder if he's as good as the reports say if he's a 4 Years From Now Guy or a 2-3.

He's still very raw. 2019 would be the earliest optimistic ETA and that's if everything goes smoothly. Lots of work left to do.

Watching him playing short-season low-A starting in a few weeks will be a good opportunity to have a better sense of where he's at.  If he dominates that level, he'll have a shot to make it to high A sometime next year.  That's about best case. 

2019 seems pretty fair for best case.

Wouldn't the best case scenario be that he goes the Andruw Jones route: dominates A, AA, and AAA next season and becomes a superstar as a 19 year old playing in the World Series?

Well our best case scenario for Kris Bryant was that was that he'd be a broken down husk playing for the Cardinals in his 30s so we're not very optimistic chaps, apparently.

I thought that was our worst-case scenario for Bryant.

I think the worst case scenario for Bryant was Mark Reynolds. Glaus was just the medium case, and if I remember correctly "a more handsome Babe Ruth" was the best case. I was just making another joke about Pen hating the Glaus Comp with a fiery passion.

Through 168 plate appearances (actually 170 for Glaus)

Bryant: .275/.393/.478/.871 7 HR, 49/25 K/BB
Glaus: .222/.288/.294/.582 1 HR, 49/15 K/BB

So, in terms of Ks, they're pretty much the same person. 

Yeah...but Glaus was 21 his rookie year.

Pen already made this exact post like a month ago and Eli already made that exact reply and posted Glaus Age 23 season when he hit 47 homers. Then Pen posted a Kurt Photoshop of Eli wearing a Glaus jersey and apparently Desipio today is a re-run.

I was checking out Glaus' page. He's 38 today. Weird that he retired at age 33 - I guess he must have broken down? I don't recall what happened there. In any case he maximized the hell out of his time in the bigs.  

If by maximized you mean he made almost $79 million, then yes - he maximized his time. 

I meant his offensive numbers you imbecile.

Speaking of money Darryl Strawberry only made 30 million for his whole career.

Yeah, but a) contracts weren't as lucrative then and b) that's in 1980s and 1990s dollars. It's $52 million when adjusted for inflation. Despite getting an SI cover for the size of his contract, Sandberg only made $25 million ($41 million in 2015 dollars) over the course of his career and he played in 600 more games than Strawberry.

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Re: Cubs' Prospects FUTUREBONER thread
« Reply #2654 on: May 29, 2015, 12:31:56 PM »
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I meant his offensive numbers you imbecile.

As has been established, Pen's brain is not capable of segmentation.