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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #90 on: October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM »
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #91 on: October 15, 2012, 08:30:30 AM »
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

The planning of his shutdown was stupid. They were in first since the start of the season, why not rest him at the start of the season, or space out starts after the all star break?

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #92 on: October 15, 2012, 08:42:17 AM »
Quote from: BH on October 15, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.
The planning of his shutdown was stupid. They were in first since the start of the season, why not rest him at the start of the season, or space out starts after the all star break?

Cut them a little slack. They're still new at this while "winning" thing.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #93 on: October 15, 2012, 08:54:23 AM »
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: BH on October 15, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.
The planning of his shutdown was stupid. They were in first since the start of the season, why not rest him at the start of the season, or space out starts after the all star break?

Cut them a little slack. They're still new at this while "winning" thing.

The while while?
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #94 on: October 15, 2012, 08:58:58 AM »
Quote from: Internet Apex on October 15, 2012, 08:54:23 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: BH on October 15, 2012, 08:30:30 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.
The planning of his shutdown was stupid. They were in first since the start of the season, why not rest him at the start of the season, or space out starts after the all star break?

Cut them a little slack. They're still new at this while "winning" thing.

The while while?

This is what happens when TIME TO POST! comes before coffee time.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #95 on: October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM »
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

He makes a strong case. I guess for me it would come down to whether it was a call made by the doctors or whether it was mostly driven by risk-averse management CYA.

Or, worse yet, Scott Boras. Speaking of which...

Quote from: Shooter on October 14, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
From what I've heard, Scott Boras was heavily involved in setting the limit, etc.

What's the evidence for this? Jordan Zimmermann isn't represented by Boras and, on a nearly identical surgery/rehab schedule a year earlier, he was given the same exact innings limit as Strasburg.

Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #96 on: October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious?

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #97 on: October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM »
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #98 on: October 15, 2012, 10:39:42 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #99 on: October 15, 2012, 10:54:48 AM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #100 on: October 15, 2012, 11:11:37 AM »
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 10:39:42 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.

Remember when the 2004 Cubs were awesome?

That was back in around 2004.  /ObviousFork
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #101 on: October 15, 2012, 11:30:28 AM »
Quote from: Tonker on October 15, 2012, 11:11:37 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 10:39:42 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 15, 2012, 10:03:46 AM
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

Obvious Fork is obvious Fork?

Fork.

Remember when the 2004 Cubs were awesome?

That was back in around 2004.  /ObviousFork

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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #102 on: October 15, 2012, 01:20:15 PM »
Unfunny cancer?  Try reading this and it will make unfunny cancer seem bearable.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #103 on: October 15, 2012, 04:07:46 PM »
Quote from: morpheus on October 15, 2012, 01:20:15 PM
Unfunny cancer?  Try reading this and it will make unfunny cancer seem bearable.

That article is the worst fucking thing that ever happened to me. I would watch my mother die again if only I could un-read it. I'm not kidding. Compared to that article, dying of cancer is like getting your balls licked.
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Re: Let's look forward to the Cardinals Methocalypse
« Reply #104 on: October 15, 2012, 07:26:50 PM »
Quote from: J. Walter Weatherman on October 15, 2012, 09:42:25 AM
Quote from: Eli on October 14, 2012, 08:32:20 AM
I'll add that the second-guessing AFTER the Nats lost to the Cardinals is lame, just because it's simplistic hindsight. But there were many smart people who didn't like the decision when it was made, and I think their points have always been valid.

He makes a strong case. I guess for me it would come down to whether it was a call made by the doctors or whether it was mostly driven by risk-averse management CYA.

Or, worse yet, Scott Boras. Speaking of which...

Quote from: Shooter on October 14, 2012, 02:31:19 PM
From what I've heard, Scott Boras was heavily involved in setting the limit, etc.

What's the evidence for this? Jordan Zimmermann isn't represented by Boras and, on a nearly identical surgery/rehab schedule a year earlier, he was given the same exact innings limit as Strasburg.

Quote from: Fork on October 15, 2012, 08:16:58 AM
I think that Boras and the Nats' management are taking a roll of the dice, thinking this is only the first year of a decent run of playoff appearances, and that Strasburg can be the centerpiece of that run. Only time will tell.

Or maybe they were just setting up the play action pass.

Only time will tell how it all plays out.

I heard it on MLB Network; not sure which talking head it was.