Let's go. Get it done. Make the 2018 regular season as fun and irrelevant as the 2016 regular season was. 162 parties and bring on October.
Just win, baby.
They're scoring 900 runs and leading the NL Central wire-to-wire.
This is gonna be fung.
1 down, 127 to go.
Surprising takeaways from Game #1 of 162:
Justin Wilson: not vomit-inducing
Jon Lester: somewhat vomit-inducing
Quote from: Saul Goodman on March 29, 2018, 04:18:26 PM
Surprising takeaways from Game #1 of 162:
Justin Wilson: not vomit-inducing
Jon Lester: somewhat vomit-inducing
Throwing strikes was not in Lester's playbook today. I was also not happy about the number of pitchers that Maddon used.
Joe Sheehan wrote a newsletter just for Cubs Twitter today.
QuoteI spent my Tuesday deflecting questions from well-intentioned radio hosts intent upon gleaning meaning from the first five days of the season. As much as I enjoy having baseball back, and have particularly enjoyed the way the schedule has been spread out, allowing us to watch games for 10-12 hours a day on many days in the early going, that's what it is: enjoyment. It's about getting back into that rhythm, and watching our game, our favorite players, our new favorites. Storylines are out there -- the new managers up and down the eastern seaboard, the two-way player in Anaheim, the death of the ground ball -- but you're not going to be able to reach meaningful conclusions about any of it five days in.
I'm a stickler for this, even as coverage of baseball more and more resembles that of the NFL, all breathless reaction, all an endless race to be first with a conclusion. Baseball demands patience, and then when you think you've waited long enough, it demands more patience. We watched a team win 104 games last season, post the best record in baseball...and lose 16 of 17 games at one point along the way. The NL MVP started the year with one extra-base hit and no homers in his first seven games. The AL Cy Young Award winner had a 5.06 ERA in six starts as May came to a close.
Even our ability to measure inputs down to the tenth of an MPH or a degree has to be tempered by patience. Just because a particular displayed skill stabilizes quickly doesn't mean 30 pitches or 15 balls in play are enough to form a conclusion. Sometimes that information points to a meaningful change in a player's skill set, or even an injury. Sometimes, it's just noise created by a bad night's sleep, or a hitter seeing the right set of pitches to drive. Players are not Statcast-generating robots any more than they are stat-generating robots.
Maybe I'm just the old, wagging his finger as he looks out upon his neatly-manicured lawn. I'll live with that if so, but this trend, this need to NFLize baseball coverage, is the least attractive thing about what is really a golden era for baseball writing. Let the season breathe.
Quote from: R-V on April 04, 2018, 11:20:35 AM
Joe Sheehan wrote a newsletter just for Cubs Twitter today.
QuoteI spent my Tuesday deflecting questions from well-intentioned radio hosts intent upon gleaning meaning from the first five days of the season. As much as I enjoy having baseball back, and have particularly enjoyed the way the schedule has been spread out, allowing us to watch games for 10-12 hours a day on many days in the early going, that's what it is: enjoyment. It's about getting back into that rhythm, and watching our game, our favorite players, our new favorites. Storylines are out there -- the new managers up and down the eastern seaboard, the two-way player in Anaheim, the death of the ground ball -- but you're not going to be able to reach meaningful conclusions about any of it five days in.
I'm a stickler for this, even as coverage of baseball more and more resembles that of the NFL, all breathless reaction, all an endless race to be first with a conclusion. Baseball demands patience, and then when you think you've waited long enough, it demands more patience. We watched a team win 104 games last season, post the best record in baseball...and lose 16 of 17 games at one point along the way. The NL MVP started the year with one extra-base hit and no homers in his first seven games. The AL Cy Young Award winner had a 5.06 ERA in six starts as May came to a close.
Even our ability to measure inputs down to the tenth of an MPH or a degree has to be tempered by patience. Just because a particular displayed skill stabilizes quickly doesn't mean 30 pitches or 15 balls in play are enough to form a conclusion. Sometimes that information points to a meaningful change in a player's skill set, or even an injury. Sometimes, it's just noise created by a bad night's sleep, or a hitter seeing the right set of pitches to drive. Players are not Statcast-generating robots any more than they are stat-generating robots.
Maybe I'm just the old, wagging his finger as he looks out upon his neatly-manicured lawn. I'll live with that if so, but this trend, this need to NFLize baseball coverage, is the least attractive thing about what is really a golden era for baseball writing. Let the season breathe.
INTREPID READER: SKO: OH LOOK AT THE COOL RATIONAL FAN FUCK YOU I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CALL THE TEAM GARBAGE AND AN UNDISCIPLINED TEAM BECAUSE THE FIRST 7 DAYS WERE FAR LESS THAN THE OPTIMAL PLAY THAT I ALLOW MYSELF TO EXPECT AND AM ENTITLED TO.
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on April 04, 2018, 12:48:31 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 04, 2018, 11:20:35 AM
Joe Sheehan wrote a newsletter just for Cubs Twitter today.
QuoteI spent my Tuesday deflecting questions from well-intentioned radio hosts intent upon gleaning meaning from the first five days of the season. As much as I enjoy having baseball back, and have particularly enjoyed the way the schedule has been spread out, allowing us to watch games for 10-12 hours a day on many days in the early going, that's what it is: enjoyment. It's about getting back into that rhythm, and watching our game, our favorite players, our new favorites. Storylines are out there -- the new managers up and down the eastern seaboard, the two-way player in Anaheim, the death of the ground ball -- but you're not going to be able to reach meaningful conclusions about any of it five days in.
I'm a stickler for this, even as coverage of baseball more and more resembles that of the NFL, all breathless reaction, all an endless race to be first with a conclusion. Baseball demands patience, and then when you think you've waited long enough, it demands more patience. We watched a team win 104 games last season, post the best record in baseball...and lose 16 of 17 games at one point along the way. The NL MVP started the year with one extra-base hit and no homers in his first seven games. The AL Cy Young Award winner had a 5.06 ERA in six starts as May came to a close.
Even our ability to measure inputs down to the tenth of an MPH or a degree has to be tempered by patience. Just because a particular displayed skill stabilizes quickly doesn't mean 30 pitches or 15 balls in play are enough to form a conclusion. Sometimes that information points to a meaningful change in a player's skill set, or even an injury. Sometimes, it's just noise created by a bad night's sleep, or a hitter seeing the right set of pitches to drive. Players are not Statcast-generating robots any more than they are stat-generating robots.
Maybe I'm just the old, wagging his finger as he looks out upon his neatly-manicured lawn. I'll live with that if so, but this trend, this need to NFLize baseball coverage, is the least attractive thing about what is really a golden era for baseball writing. Let the season breathe.
INTREPID READER: SKO: OH LOOK AT THE COOL RATIONAL FAN FUCK YOU I RESERVE THE RIGHT TO CALL THE TEAM GARBAGE AND AN UNDISCIPLINED TEAM BECAUSE THE FIRST 7 DAYS WERE FAR LESS THAN THE OPTIMAL PLAY THAT I ALLOW MYSELF TO EXPECT AND AM ENTITLED TO.
Yes all of that is correct.
Also Sheehan reacted to ONE Schwarber misplay by saying the Cubs needed to get over their "crush" on the guy that has been far and away their best hitter so far and just play Almora, so he can eat a dick
I really do find it funny that there has to be some kind of higher relationship with a sports team than "mad they lost, happy they won." I'm obviously perfectly rational and happy to discuss stats and stuff between games but in the end if the point is not to have some kind of emotional reaction to the actual events of the games themselves I gotta say I don't get it. You know they're not your friends, right? They don't care about or acknowledge your existence, you don't owe them anything. Yell at them when they lose or yell at everyone yelling at them when they lose, in the end you make no difference here.
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 10:34:27 AMI really do find it funny that there has to be some kind of higher relationship with a sports team than "mad they lost, happy they won." I'm obviously perfectly rational and happy to discuss stats and stuff between games but in the end if the point is not to have some kind of emotional reaction to the actual events of the games themselves I gotta say I don't get it. You know they're not your friends, right? They don't care about or acknowledge your existence, you don't owe them anything. Yell at them when they lose or yell at everyone yelling at them when they lose, in the end you make no difference here.
I mean at the end of the day nothing we do makes any difference, we're all farts in the wind eventually. The point is not that you can't or shouldn't get mad when your team loses. It's that trying to draw some greater meaning about where the season is headed out of a meaningless sample size (Happ should be benched because of his K rate...Lester might be done...Heyward is clearly bad again) is a waste of breath.
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 10:34:27 AMI really do find it funny that there has to be some kind of higher relationship with a sports team than "mad they lost, happy they won." I'm obviously perfectly rational and happy to discuss stats and stuff between games but in the end if the point is not to have some kind of emotional reaction to the actual events of the games themselves I gotta say I don't get it. You know they're not your friends, right? They don't care about or acknowledge your existence, you don't owe them anything. Yell at them when they lose or yell at everyone yelling at them when they lose, in the end you make no difference here.
I mean at the end of the day nothing we do makes any difference, we're all farts in the wind eventually. The point is not that you can't or shouldn't get mad when your team loses. It's that trying to draw some greater meaning about where the season is headed out of a meaningless sample size (Happ should be benched because of his K rate...Lester might be done...Heyward is clearly bad again) is a waste of breath.
But thanks to the Information Age, there are people whose livelihoods depend on offering analysis (and by extension, meaning) based on the sample size that exists - in this case, 5 games. As foolish as The Athletic is with their money (looking at you, Dolan), they're not going to pay a guy to say, "let's see where we are 20 games in."
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 10:34:27 AMI really do find it funny that there has to be some kind of higher relationship with a sports team than "mad they lost, happy they won." I'm obviously perfectly rational and happy to discuss stats and stuff between games but in the end if the point is not to have some kind of emotional reaction to the actual events of the games themselves I gotta say I don't get it. You know they're not your friends, right? They don't care about or acknowledge your existence, you don't owe them anything. Yell at them when they lose or yell at everyone yelling at them when they lose, in the end you make no difference here.
I mean at the end of the day nothing we do makes any difference, we're all farts in the wind eventually. The point is not that you can't or shouldn't get mad when your team loses. It's that trying to draw some greater meaning about where the season is headed out of a meaningless sample size (Happ should be benched because of his K rate...Lester might be done...Heyward is clearly bad again) is a waste of breath.
I mean most of the time my twitter account is just "fuck. shit, goddamit, that sucks" if you can see me drawing making any proclamations like the above, fine. I mean the Heyward thing I am going to wait until he has sustained success before I change my default opinion that he sucks ass. I think I may have called for Happ to get a day off but not end up benched, he was clearly just pressing too hard there for a bit. There's just a default attitude among a large chunk of Cubs Twitter that basically anyone who dares get mad at the outcome of a single baseball game is a moron. I'm a moron, but that's not why.
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 10:34:27 AMI really do find it funny that there has to be some kind of higher relationship with a sports team than "mad they lost, happy they won." I'm obviously perfectly rational and happy to discuss stats and stuff between games but in the end if the point is not to have some kind of emotional reaction to the actual events of the games themselves I gotta say I don't get it. You know they're not your friends, right? They don't care about or acknowledge your existence, you don't owe them anything. Yell at them when they lose or yell at everyone yelling at them when they lose, in the end you make no difference here.
I mean at the end of the day nothing we do makes any difference, we're all farts in the wind eventually. The point is not that you can't or shouldn't get mad when your team loses. It's that trying to draw some greater meaning about where the season is headed out of a meaningless sample size (Happ should be benched because of his K rate...Lester might be done...Heyward is clearly bad again) is a waste of breath.
"Again"?
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 11:28:41 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 10:34:27 AMI really do find it funny that there has to be some kind of higher relationship with a sports team than "mad they lost, happy they won." I'm obviously perfectly rational and happy to discuss stats and stuff between games but in the end if the point is not to have some kind of emotional reaction to the actual events of the games themselves I gotta say I don't get it. You know they're not your friends, right? They don't care about or acknowledge your existence, you don't owe them anything. Yell at them when they lose or yell at everyone yelling at them when they lose, in the end you make no difference here.
I mean at the end of the day nothing we do makes any difference, we're all farts in the wind eventually. The point is not that you can't or shouldn't get mad when your team loses. It's that trying to draw some greater meaning about where the season is headed out of a meaningless sample size (Happ should be benched because of his K rate...Lester might be done...Heyward is clearly bad again) is a waste of breath.
I mean most of the time my twitter account is just "fuck. shit, goddamit, that sucks" if you can see me drawing making any proclamations like the above, fine. I mean the Heyward thing I am going to wait until he has sustained success before I change my default opinion that he sucks ass. I think I may have called for Happ to get a day off but not end up benched, he was clearly just pressing too hard there for a bit. There's just a default attitude among a large chunk of Cubs Twitter that basically anyone who dares get mad at the outcome of a single baseball game is a moron. I'm a moron, but that's not why.
I wasn't talking about you specifically, just general Twitter stuff. And yes that's on me to stop following people who chap my balls.
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 11:28:41 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 10:34:27 AMI really do find it funny that there has to be some kind of higher relationship with a sports team than "mad they lost, happy they won." I'm obviously perfectly rational and happy to discuss stats and stuff between games but in the end if the point is not to have some kind of emotional reaction to the actual events of the games themselves I gotta say I don't get it. You know they're not your friends, right? They don't care about or acknowledge your existence, you don't owe them anything. Yell at them when they lose or yell at everyone yelling at them when they lose, in the end you make no difference here.
I mean at the end of the day nothing we do makes any difference, we're all farts in the wind eventually. The point is not that you can't or shouldn't get mad when your team loses. It's that trying to draw some greater meaning about where the season is headed out of a meaningless sample size (Happ should be benched because of his K rate...Lester might be done...Heyward is clearly bad again) is a waste of breath.
I mean most of the time my twitter account is just "fuck. shit, goddamit, that sucks" if you can see me drawing making any proclamations like the above, fine. I mean the Heyward thing I am going to wait until he has sustained success before I change my default opinion that he sucks ass. I think I may have called for Happ to get a day off but not end up benched, he was clearly just pressing too hard there for a bit. There's just a default attitude among a large chunk of Cubs Twitter that basically anyone who dares get mad at the outcome of a single baseball game is a moron. I'm a moron, but that's not why.
I wasn't talking about you specifically, just general Twitter stuff. And yes that's on me to stop following people who chap my balls.
Unless someone's a completely petulant asshole like that JamFan guy who not only insists that every player be executed for every mistake but that you personally suck if you do not agree my default stance is let people fan how they wanna fan. I don't yell at the Pollyannas to get mad, but Huey sure seems to think that *this* is the time telling me to calm down midgame is the time it's gonna work, by god.
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 11:28:41 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 10:34:27 AMI really do find it funny that there has to be some kind of higher relationship with a sports team than "mad they lost, happy they won." I'm obviously perfectly rational and happy to discuss stats and stuff between games but in the end if the point is not to have some kind of emotional reaction to the actual events of the games themselves I gotta say I don't get it. You know they're not your friends, right? They don't care about or acknowledge your existence, you don't owe them anything. Yell at them when they lose or yell at everyone yelling at them when they lose, in the end you make no difference here.
I mean at the end of the day nothing we do makes any difference, we're all farts in the wind eventually. The point is not that you can't or shouldn't get mad when your team loses. It's that trying to draw some greater meaning about where the season is headed out of a meaningless sample size (Happ should be benched because of his K rate...Lester might be done...Heyward is clearly bad again) is a waste of breath.
I mean most of the time my twitter account is just "fuck. shit, goddamit, that sucks" if you can see me drawing making any proclamations like the above, fine. I mean the Heyward thing I am going to wait until he has sustained success before I change my default opinion that he sucks ass. I think I may have called for Happ to get a day off but not end up benched, he was clearly just pressing too hard there for a bit. There's just a default attitude among a large chunk of Cubs Twitter that basically anyone who dares get mad at the outcome of a single baseball game is a moron. I'm a moron, but that's not why.
I wasn't talking about you specifically, just general Twitter stuff. And yes that's on me to stop following people who chap my balls.
Unless someone's a completely petulant asshole like that JamFan guy who not only insists that every player be executed for every mistake but that you personally suck if you do not agree my default stance is let people fan how they wanna fan. I don't yell at the Pollyannas to get mad, but Huey sure seems to think that *this* is the time telling me to calm down midgame is the time it's gonna work, by god.
Just to be clear, this is what you tweeted AFTER the last game, after this team that has gone to 3 straight LCS had the NERVE to not light up the world from jump street.
(https://i.imgur.com/OrTPU4i.png)
I mean, aside from happily showing your ass with this comment, this is of course not even remotely accurate. I know, I know context and everything ("I MEAN THEY'RE AN UNDISCIPLINED TEAM
RIGHT NOW!"), but that's splitting hairs. That you see some sort of chasm between your expressed thoughts and those of that fuckhole JamFam might bring you some comfort, but in reality these are pretty similar sentiments that only differ in volume.
But thanks for the new signature!
They need to win some fucking games ASAP so everyone can calm down.
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on April 05, 2018, 12:34:01 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 12:07:57 PM
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 12:05:07 PM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 11:28:41 AM
Quote from: R-V on April 05, 2018, 11:21:26 AM
Quote from: SKO on April 05, 2018, 10:34:27 AMI really do find it funny that there has to be some kind of higher relationship with a sports team than "mad they lost, happy they won." I'm obviously perfectly rational and happy to discuss stats and stuff between games but in the end if the point is not to have some kind of emotional reaction to the actual events of the games themselves I gotta say I don't get it. You know they're not your friends, right? They don't care about or acknowledge your existence, you don't owe them anything. Yell at them when they lose or yell at everyone yelling at them when they lose, in the end you make no difference here.
I mean at the end of the day nothing we do makes any difference, we're all farts in the wind eventually. The point is not that you can't or shouldn't get mad when your team loses. It's that trying to draw some greater meaning about where the season is headed out of a meaningless sample size (Happ should be benched because of his K rate...Lester might be done...Heyward is clearly bad again) is a waste of breath.
I mean most of the time my twitter account is just "fuck. shit, goddamit, that sucks" if you can see me drawing making any proclamations like the above, fine. I mean the Heyward thing I am going to wait until he has sustained success before I change my default opinion that he sucks ass. I think I may have called for Happ to get a day off but not end up benched, he was clearly just pressing too hard there for a bit. There's just a default attitude among a large chunk of Cubs Twitter that basically anyone who dares get mad at the outcome of a single baseball game is a moron. I'm a moron, but that's not why.
I wasn't talking about you specifically, just general Twitter stuff. And yes that's on me to stop following people who chap my balls.
Unless someone's a completely petulant asshole like that JamFan guy who not only insists that every player be executed for every mistake but that you personally suck if you do not agree my default stance is let people fan how they wanna fan. I don't yell at the Pollyannas to get mad, but Huey sure seems to think that *this* is the time telling me to calm down midgame is the time it's gonna work, by god.
Just to be clear, this is what you tweeted AFTER the last game, after this team that has gone to 3 straight LCS had the NERVE to not light up the world from jump street.
(https://i.imgur.com/OrTPU4i.png)
I mean, aside from happily showing your ass with this comment, this is of course not even remotely accurate. I know, I know context and everything ("I MEAN THEY'RE AN UNDISCIPLINED TEAM RIGHT NOW!"), but that's splitting hairs. That you see some sort of chasm between your expressed thoughts and those of that fuckhole JamFam might bring you some comfort, but in reality these are pretty similar sentiments that only differ in volume.
But thanks for the new signature!
Can we just not have this conversation anymore, it cannot still be news that I get angry during games, nor can anyone but you possibly still care
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 05, 2018, 12:42:58 PM
They need to win some fucking games ASAP so everyone can calm down.
While you guys are hashing all this out, I'm just going to point and laugh at the Phillies (https://deadspin.com/what-did-gabe-kapler-fuck-up-this-time-1825010802).
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 05, 2018, 02:53:07 PM
While you guys are hashing all this out, I'm just going to point and laugh at the Phillies (https://deadspin.com/what-did-gabe-kapler-fuck-up-this-time-1825010802).
Should have stuck to genital advice blogging.
That's more like it.
Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 13, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
Lord god almighty do not fucking lump me in with this. I'm gonna go home and rethink my life.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 13, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
(http://media.graytvinc.com/images/810*498/Chicago+Cubs+and+Jose+Quintana.png)
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 13, 2018, 04:05:11 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 13, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
(http://media.graytvinc.com/images/810*498/Chicago+Cubs+and+Jose+Quintana.png)
I want Eloy back. It'd be nice to have someone who can both play the outfield defensively and hit, instead of another 4th starter.
That was great, and reminded me of this:
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-08-29/sports/9408290168_1_shawon-dunston-error-cubs-manager-mark-grace
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 14, 2018, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 13, 2018, 04:05:11 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 13, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
(http://media.graytvinc.com/images/810*498/Chicago+Cubs+and+Jose+Quintana.png)
I want Eloy back. It'd be nice to have someone who can both play the outfield defensively and hit, instead of another 4th starter.
You are arrestingly stupid.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 13, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
Gee. And here I thought that the 2018 Cubs were an entertaining and fun team to watch.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 14, 2018, 02:02:28 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 13, 2018, 04:05:11 PM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 13, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
(http://media.graytvinc.com/images/810*498/Chicago+Cubs+and+Jose+Quintana.png)
I want Eloy back. It'd be nice to have someone who can both play the outfield defensively and hit, instead of another 4th starter.
Yeah, having a guy in AA would certainly help a team in their World Series window.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on April 16, 2018, 08:10:54 AM
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Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
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I want Eloy back. It'd be nice to have someone who can both play the outfield defensively and hit, instead of another 4th starter.
Yeah, having a guy in AA extended spring training
would certainly help a team in their World Series window.
I think Eloy is going to be a very good player and the best years of his career are going to come after Bryant/Rizzo/Russell/Baez/Schwarber have all left in FA after 2021. Even if Quintana doesn't fix his shit (unlikely) there was no point in prospect hugging there and Quintana was the best available pitcher by far. Not to mention if the Cubs sign Harper then Eloy would have been blocked for the next decade anyway.
There's really nothing wrong with the Cubs that can't mostly be attributed to bad luck and bad timing. Their offense has a number of guys actually having good seasons (for one, I don't get why there's some narrative that Schwarber hasn't been good, the dude has a fucking 133 OPS+, look beyond batting average), they just haven't sync'd up their good days that often so far, and bad luck has played a factor in that they rank in the bottom of the league in terms of BABIP and even lower than that in terms of BABIP with RISP. I'm a little worried about Quintana's velocity being down a tick (though it's hard to take anything meaningful from pitching in that blizzard Saturday) but otherwise there's nothing that's gone wrong this year that looks like a potential long term issue.
Long story short the Cubs are fine and likely to be very good still, I'm just impatient and I like to bitch. There's no reason here for an EVERYONE SUCKS, FIRE EVERYONE reaction.
Jason Heyward should be fired into the sun with a comically oversized trebuchet though.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 13, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
Goddamnit. I'm staring at around 9 hours of mind numbing technical training today and all I'm going to be thinking about is how some internet dumbass compared two really, really good Cubs players to two of the 5 or so best players in the AL and how he's NOT ENTERTAINED!
You, sir, are a national treasure.
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Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on April 13, 2018, 03:27:22 PM
Maybe it'll take me agreeing-ish with SKO to cause him to run to reason, but all I'm seeing from this team is an overrated core (the difference between the Cubs' middle infield and Houston's is that Houston's can hit, and the Cubs' can't) and albatross FA signings, which is consistent with Epstink's MO...build something out of nothing, then watch it collapse under the weight of bad contracts.
Darvish is a past-his-prime headcase. Lester is Wile E Coyote suspended in midair having walked off the cliff, if he hasn't already started falling. Heyward is MLB's most expensive motivational speaker. The Justin Wilson trade may be McStiff trade bad.
Every time I try to figure out something Epstink has done right since 2016, I end up scratching my head.
Goddamnit. I'm staring at around 9 hours of mind numbing technical training today and all I'm going to be thinking about is how some internet dumbass compared two really, really good Cubs players to two of the 5 or so best players in the AL and how he's NOT ENTERTAINED!
You, sir, are a national treasure.
And right on cue, Baez is OPSing over 1.000.
Stuck with the Rockies broadcast at a bar. They still put viewer tweets on screen like a local news station two years ago. "@joefuckface: Close it out, Rox, I want to fly the L!" Neat.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on April 21, 2018, 10:19:35 PM
Stuck with the Rockies broadcast at a bar. They still put viewer tweets on screen like a local news station two years ago. "@joefuckface: Close it out, Rox, I want to fly the L!" Neat.
You could have been in the ballpark, doing Gord's work trying to coerce Huey into eating bull's balls.
I'd like to see a few good starts in a row from them both but if Darvish and Quintana are fixed, especially Q, who hit 93 more times in that start than he had all season combined till then, my terror level is down to yellow. There's no green, so that's pretty good
Well that's it. The Indians clinched the season series therefore the 2016 World Series never happened now. How many tears, Theo?
Russell and Rizzo have quietly gotten their respective OPS+ to 96 and 94. If they keep it up for another game or two, the only starting position player under 100 will be Jason "but his glove!" Heyward.
Please stop giving up lead-changing homers to the Reds. Thank's
Well this is shaping up to be the July 2015 Phillies series. Sal Romano is throwing a no-hitter tomorrow, place your bets now.
.....the aristocrats!
This is a strange feeling, but I think I'm about to go full SKO on Chris Gimenez.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 26, 2018, 05:11:49 PM
This is a strange feeling, but I think I'm about to go full SKO on Chris Gimenez.
That's not how it works. "Going full SKO" means shitting on players and teams that
don't suck.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on June 26, 2018, 05:11:49 PM
This is a strange feeling, but I think I'm about to go full SKO on Chris Gimenez.
That's not how it works. "Going full SKO" means shitting on players and teams that don't suck.
I spent most of 2015 railing against David Ross, this is included. The Full SKO just covers a lot of anger.
So Chatwood is a mess, Hendricks is in the worst year of his career, Lester's outpitched his peripherals by a significant gap, and Darvish just had another setback in his recovery.
If they can't find a way to get at least 3 good starters going in this mess the talent gap between them and Milwaukee narrows significantly. They may need to trade for some rotation help somehow.
Quote from: SKO on June 28, 2018, 01:24:50 PM
So Chatwood is a mess, Hendricks is in the worst year of his career, Lester's outpitched his peripherals by a significant gap, and Darvish just had another setback in his recovery.
If they can't find a way to get at least 3 good starters going in this mess the talent gap between them and Milwaukee narrows significantly. They may need to trade for some rotation help somehow.
Sounds like the second position change in less than a year is coming for Manny Machado.
The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
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The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 16, 2018, 12:33:17 PM
The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
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The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
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The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
This is how memes are born.
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The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
This is how memes are born.
Don't give LIFELONG HOUSTON ASTROS FAN HUEY shit just because he keeps a poster of THE BEEGE above his bed.
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The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
This is how memes are born.
Don't give LIFELONG HOUSTON ASTROS FAN HUEY shit just because he keeps a poster of THE BEEGE above his bed.
He's furious because someone put ketchup on his giardiniera enchiladas.
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The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
This is how memes are born.
Don't give LIFELONG HOUSTON ASTROS FAN HUEY shit just because he keeps a poster of THE BEEGE above his bed.
He's furious because someone put ketchup on his giardiniera enchiladas. potato tacos
c'mon, man.
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The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
This is how memes are born.
I'll wear the meme like the Beege wears a 97 mph inside fastball.
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The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
This is how memes are born.
Don't give LIFELONG HOUSTON ASTROS FAN HUEY shit just because he keeps a poster of THE BEEGE above his bed.
He's furious because someone put ketchup on his giardiniera enchiladas. potato tacos
c'mon, man.
I accept the revision.
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 16, 2018, 12:33:17 PM
The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
This is how memes are born.
Don't give LIFELONG HOUSTON ASTROS FAN HUEY shit just because he keeps a poster of THE BEEGE above his bed.
He's furious because someone put ketchup on his giardiniera enchiladas. potato tacos
c'mon, man.
I accept the revision.
For what it's worth, I lol-ed at "giardeniera enchiladas".
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Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 16, 2018, 12:33:17 PM
The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
This is how memes are born.
Don't give LIFELONG HOUSTON ASTROS FAN HUEY shit just because he keeps a poster of THE BEEGE above his bed.
He's furious because someone put ketchup on his giardiniera enchiladas. potato tacos
c'mon, man.
I accept the revision.
For what it's worth, I lol-ed at "giardeniera enchiladas".
It's probably the name of an album that Au Pairs made in 1982 that he happened to be looking at.
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The Cubs head into the All-Star break one game behind their 2016 pace. That year they looked like an unstoppable juggernaut. This year they look like they still haven't hit their stride.
They are going to rain hellfire and damnation upon the National League.
And the American League too or are they just going to lose all the interleague games
They can as long as they don't lose their October interleague games
Houston's the only team I can see the Cubs losing to even if they're playing well at that time.
This is how memes are born.
Don't give LIFELONG HOUSTON ASTROS FAN HUEY shit just because he keeps a poster of THE BEEGE above his bed.
He's furious because someone put ketchup on his giardiniera enchiladas. potato tacos
c'mon, man.
I accept the revision.
For what it's worth, I lol-ed at "giardeniera enchiladas".
It's probably the name of an album that Au Pairs made in 1982 that he happened to be looking at.
It was the Delta 5.
Is Luke Farrell Irish for "Brian Matusz"? Did they forget they have Duane Underwood in Iowa for spot starts?
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 23, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Is Luke Farrell Irish for "Brian Matusz"? Did they forget they have Duane Underwood in Iowa for spot starts?
Underwood with the gaudy 5.71 ERA in his last 10 AAA appearances? They're better off taking their lumps with Puke Farrell and not losing a bullpen arm for 10 days before they can call said arm back up. I mean, unless you're ready for a return to the Casey Coleman Experience...
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 24, 2018, 08:03:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 23, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Is Luke Farrell Irish for "Brian Matusz"? Did they forget they have Duane Underwood in Iowa for spot starts?
Underwood with the gaudy 5.71 ERA in his last 10 AAA appearances? They're better off taking their lumps with Puke Farrell and not losing a bullpen arm for 10 days before they can call said arm back up. I mean, unless you're ready for a return to the Casey Coleman Experience...
It's just a spot start. They still keep running Tyler Chatwood out there every fifth day, so how much worse could Underwood be.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 25, 2018, 01:20:43 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 24, 2018, 08:03:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 23, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Is Luke Farrell Irish for "Brian Matusz"? Did they forget they have Duane Underwood in Iowa for spot starts?
Underwood with the gaudy 5.71 ERA in his last 10 AAA appearances? They're better off taking their lumps with Puke Farrell and not losing a bullpen arm for 10 days before they can call said arm back up. I mean, unless you're ready for a return to the Casey Coleman Experience...
It's just a spot start. They still keep running Tyler Chatwood out there every fifth day, so how much worse could Underwood be.
Running Chatwood out there every fifth day is like running Heyward out there every day in 2016 and 2017. They sunk a lot of dough into him, and they're working on getting him to the type of numbers he had prior to being a Cub. 4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year.
But back to Underwood - it's still a roster move, and it's still sending a guy down who can't be recalled for 10 days. Although, events that have transpired since then make me wonder why they didn't bring him up, send Farrell down, then recall Butler after the game. Unless they really thought they could catch lightning in a bottle with Farrell.
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 25, 2018, 08:23:13 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 25, 2018, 01:20:43 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 24, 2018, 08:03:12 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 23, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Is Luke Farrell Irish for "Brian Matusz"? Did they forget they have Duane Underwood in Iowa for spot starts?
Underwood with the gaudy 5.71 ERA in his last 10 AAA appearances? They're better off taking their lumps with Puke Farrell and not losing a bullpen arm for 10 days before they can call said arm back up. I mean, unless you're ready for a return to the Casey Coleman Experience...
It's just a spot start. They still keep running Tyler Chatwood out there every fifth day, so how much worse could Underwood be.
Running Chatwood out there every fifth day is like running Heyward out there every day in 2016 and 2017. They sunk a lot of dough into him, and they're working on getting him to the type of numbers he had prior to being a Cub. 4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year.
But back to Underwood - it's still a roster move, and it's still sending a guy down who can't be recalled for 10 days. Although, events that have transpired since then make me wonder why they didn't bring him up, send Farrell down, then recall Butler after the game. Unless they really thought they could catch lightning in a bottle with Farrell.
Well, no. That's a bad comparison. Heyward played not because they "sunk a lot of dough in him" but because Heyward still did things that helped the team win, enough to make him worth 3.6 WAR coming into this season. Chatwood is a pitcher, so if he's not pitching well there's no reason to throw him out there. He's not an innings-eater either so you can't even argue he saves the bullpen. He occasionally can pinch-run. He can't hit. He does nothing other than make it more likely the Cubs will lose.
"4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year."
I've read that five times and still have no idea what it means.
At least we finally agreed that Underwood should have been called up.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 25, 2018, 07:59:59 PM
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 23, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Is Luke Farrell Irish for "Brian Matusz"? Did they forget they have Duane Underwood in Iowa for spot starts?
Underwood with the gaudy 5.71 ERA in his last 10 AAA appearances? They're better off taking their lumps with Puke Farrell and not losing a bullpen arm for 10 days before they can call said arm back up. I mean, unless you're ready for a return to the Casey Coleman Experience...
It's just a spot start. They still keep running Tyler Chatwood out there every fifth day, so how much worse could Underwood be.
Running Chatwood out there every fifth day is like running Heyward out there every day in 2016 and 2017. They sunk a lot of dough into him, and they're working on getting him to the type of numbers he had prior to being a Cub. 4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year.
But back to Underwood - it's still a roster move, and it's still sending a guy down who can't be recalled for 10 days. Although, events that have transpired since then make me wonder why they didn't bring him up, send Farrell down, then recall Butler after the game. Unless they really thought they could catch lightning in a bottle with Farrell.
Well, no. That's a bad comparison. Heyward played not because they "sunk a lot of dough in him" but because Heyward still did things that helped the team win, enough to make him worth 3.6 WAR coming into this season. Chatwood is a pitcher, so if he's not pitching well there's no reason to throw him out there. He's not an innings-eater either so you can't even argue he saves the bullpen. He occasionally can pinch-run. He can't hit. He does nothing other than make it more likely the Cubs will lose.
"4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year."
I've read that five times and still have no idea what it means.
At least we finally agreed that Underwood should have been called up.
His career walk rate coming into this season. This year he's around 8 walks per 9IP.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 23, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Is Luke Farrell Irish for "Brian Matusz"? Did they forget they have Duane Underwood in Iowa for spot starts?
Underwood with the gaudy 5.71 ERA in his last 10 AAA appearances? They're better off taking their lumps with Puke Farrell and not losing a bullpen arm for 10 days before they can call said arm back up. I mean, unless you're ready for a return to the Casey Coleman Experience...
It's just a spot start. They still keep running Tyler Chatwood out there every fifth day, so how much worse could Underwood be.
Running Chatwood out there every fifth day is like running Heyward out there every day in 2016 and 2017. They sunk a lot of dough into him, and they're working on getting him to the type of numbers he had prior to being a Cub. 4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year.
But back to Underwood - it's still a roster move, and it's still sending a guy down who can't be recalled for 10 days. Although, events that have transpired since then make me wonder why they didn't bring him up, send Farrell down, then recall Butler after the game. Unless they really thought they could catch lightning in a bottle with Farrell.
Well, no. That's a bad comparison. Heyward played not because they "sunk a lot of dough in him" but because Heyward still did things that helped the team win, enough to make him worth 3.6 WAR coming into this season. Chatwood is a pitcher, so if he's not pitching well there's no reason to throw him out there. He's not an innings-eater either so you can't even argue he saves the bullpen. He occasionally can pinch-run. He can't hit. He does nothing other than make it more likely the Cubs will lose.
"4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year."
I've read that five times and still have no idea what it means.
At least we finally agreed that Underwood should have been called up.
His career walk rate coming into this season. This year he's around 8 walks per 9IP.
Yeah, that wasn't that tough.
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Is Luke Farrell Irish for "Brian Matusz"? Did they forget they have Duane Underwood in Iowa for spot starts?
Underwood with the gaudy 5.71 ERA in his last 10 AAA appearances? They're better off taking their lumps with Puke Farrell and not losing a bullpen arm for 10 days before they can call said arm back up. I mean, unless you're ready for a return to the Casey Coleman Experience...
It's just a spot start. They still keep running Tyler Chatwood out there every fifth day, so how much worse could Underwood be.
Running Chatwood out there every fifth day is like running Heyward out there every day in 2016 and 2017. They sunk a lot of dough into him, and they're working on getting him to the type of numbers he had prior to being a Cub. 4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year.
But back to Underwood - it's still a roster move, and it's still sending a guy down who can't be recalled for 10 days. Although, events that have transpired since then make me wonder why they didn't bring him up, send Farrell down, then recall Butler after the game. Unless they really thought they could catch lightning in a bottle with Farrell.
Well, no. That's a bad comparison. Heyward played not because they "sunk a lot of dough in him" but because Heyward still did things that helped the team win, enough to make him worth 3.6 WAR coming into this season. Chatwood is a pitcher, so if he's not pitching well there's no reason to throw him out there. He's not an innings-eater either so you can't even argue he saves the bullpen. He occasionally can pinch-run. He can't hit. He does nothing other than make it more likely the Cubs will lose.
"4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year."
I've read that five times and still have no idea what it means.
At least we finally agreed that Underwood should have been called up.
His career walk rate coming into this season. This year he's around 8 walks per 9IP.
Yeah, that wasn't that tough.
I don't speak Fork.
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Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 23, 2018, 07:36:32 PM
Is Luke Farrell Irish for "Brian Matusz"? Did they forget they have Duane Underwood in Iowa for spot starts?
Underwood with the gaudy 5.71 ERA in his last 10 AAA appearances? They're better off taking their lumps with Puke Farrell and not losing a bullpen arm for 10 days before they can call said arm back up. I mean, unless you're ready for a return to the Casey Coleman Experience...
It's just a spot start. They still keep running Tyler Chatwood out there every fifth day, so how much worse could Underwood be.
Running Chatwood out there every fifth day is like running Heyward out there every day in 2016 and 2017. They sunk a lot of dough into him, and they're working on getting him to the type of numbers he had prior to being a Cub. 4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year.
But back to Underwood - it's still a roster move, and it's still sending a guy down who can't be recalled for 10 days. Although, events that have transpired since then make me wonder why they didn't bring him up, send Farrell down, then recall Butler after the game. Unless they really thought they could catch lightning in a bottle with Farrell.
Well, no. That's a bad comparison. Heyward played not because they "sunk a lot of dough in him" but because Heyward still did things that helped the team win, enough to make him worth 3.6 WAR coming into this season. Chatwood is a pitcher, so if he's not pitching well there's no reason to throw him out there. He's not an innings-eater either so you can't even argue he saves the bullpen. He occasionally can pinch-run. He can't hit. He does nothing other than make it more likely the Cubs will lose.
"4BB/9IP still isn't Greg Maddux, but it's half of what it is this year."
I've read that five times and still have no idea what it means.
At least we finally agreed that Underwood should have been called up.
His career walk rate coming into this season. This year he's around 8 walks per 9IP.
Yeah, that wasn't that tough.
I don't speak Fork.
Me either.
You see, it's funny because Austin Hedges is awful.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 02, 2018, 09:14:18 PM
You see, it's funny because Austin Hedges is and the Padres are awful.
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You see, it's funny because the Padres are awful.
The Cubs beat the shitheap Padres 5 out of 7 times, producing a winning percentage in those contests (.286 vs. .714) that was both lower and higher, respectively, than what these two teams have put up for the season. The only reason the Cubs didn't run the table was because two shitfucks named Hunter and Austin managed to pull shit of their asses, yes. Baseball. Are you not entertained?
One of my favorite things that Javy and Willson have been doing is appealing their own check swings to the first base umpire. It's a preemptive strike against the home plate umpire making the call without asking for help and it's genius.
Back to owning the Reds. That's more like it.
Alec, you're no Ryan O'Malley.
Quote from: Saul Goodman on August 29, 2018, 01:41:27 PM
Alec, you're no Ryan O'Malley.
True story: He's my boss's cousin.
Guys I've thought a lot about this and when it comes to the last five games of the season, winning ,,, it's good. The Cubs should win imo.
Lol
I didn't think I'd ever miss the 2017 bullpen.
Boy, I was wrong. The front office really fucked up this season.
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 26, 2018, 10:37:07 PM
I didn't think I'd ever miss the 2017 bullpen.
Boy, I was wrong. The front office really fucked up this season.
They lost their top two guys to injury, so
every single pitcher in the pen is two spots higher in the pecking order than they should be. They also lost Darvish, which means once every time through the rotation you get a four-inning start from Monty. And the schedule over the last month has given nobody any breathing room.
Stupid fucking front office.
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Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 26, 2018, 10:37:07 PM
I didn't think I'd ever miss the 2017 bullpen.
Boy, I was wrong. The front office really fucked up this season.
They lost their top two guys to injury, so every single pitcher in the pen is two spots higher in the pecking order than they should be. They also lost Darvish, which means once every time through the rotation you get a four-inning start from Monty. And the schedule over the last month has given nobody any breathing room.
Stupid fucking front office.
Yeah, the stupid front office should have anticipated one of the premier setup guys in the game suddenly being unable to hit the broad side of a barn with his pitches, or two guys who have been pretty dependable all year having rough outings on the same night.
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Quote from: Tonker on September 27, 2018, 02:42:49 AM
Quote from: CubFaninHydePark on September 26, 2018, 10:37:07 PM
I didn't think I'd ever miss the 2017 bullpen.
Boy, I was wrong. The front office really fucked up this season.
They lost their top two guys to injury, so every single pitcher in the pen is two spots higher in the pecking order than they should be. They also lost Darvish, which means once every time through the rotation you get a four-inning start from Monty. And the schedule over the last month has given nobody any breathing room.
Stupid fucking front office.
Yeah, the stupid front office should have anticipated one of the premier setup guys in the game suddenly being unable to hit the broad side of a barn with his pitches, or two guys who have been pretty dependable all year having rough outings on the same night.
162 games in a season, half of which are played on the road and mostly at night, are a grind. All teams have the same issue, but that goes a long way to explain what is going on in the Cubs' bullpen. Some of these guys would have been wise to get their Business Administration degrees instead of majoring in P.E.
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Hey, remember last season how the Cubs signed Chris Coghlan but he never made it back to the MLB team? See? 2018 could have been worse.