Reasonable Trade Discussion

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

What about sending some prospects, cash, and Miggy to the Brewers for Lucroy? The Brewers want to trade him, he projects to bounce back pretty well from an injury plagued 2015, was worth 13 wins from 2012-2014 before he got hurt, and is under team control through 2017. At that point you should know if Contreras really is ready to be your full time catcher, but in the meantime you get a guy who is almost certainly better than whatever is left of Montero's corpse while you make your title run.

Which prospects?

I dunno, presumably some mid-level and maybe one upper-level, in the abstract.

He's only got 2 years of control and he's coming off an injury plagued year, so maybe like Jeimer Candelario and some other stuff? If their Khris Davis trade is any indication they'll gamble on toolsy guys with upside.

I don't think they'd need to part with Gleyber or McKinney or Contreras, but some guys in that second tier.

I'm hearing Candelario being talked up this year and I'm trying to discern if it's the Cubs' PR machine pumping him up or if the dude's a real prospect after an admittedly decent Age 21 season at AA.  In any event, if the Brewers were okay with dealing LaCroy for the likes of Candelario then by all means, they can be my guest.

He was a guy that got a lot of love before 2014 if I remember correctly. He has a lot of raw tools and his contact skills were highly praised. He fell off a lot of people's radars with a crappy 2014 and with the other prospects in the system being instant superstars, but then he hit well this year and he's considered a fairly legit prospect.

MLB Pipeline had him as a top ten 3B prospect, as did Keith Law, although both said he was just outside top 100 prospect status.


I doubt he alone would be enough to get Lucroy but it doesn't seem like the Brewers have much in the way of 3rd base prospects. He'd be a nice start to the package.

I'd think Candelario, Miggy and Almora gets it done.

Somebody get on the phone with Hoyer's secretary!

Lucroy is a player who gets injured making his bed or packing a suitcase.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/brewers/brewers-jonathan-lucroy-looks-to-rebound-in-2016-from-injury-filled-season-b99588582z1-330500461.html

That makes him a good fit for a franchise that once had a player who missed a game because he couldn't open his eyelids.

-Mike Remlinger broke his hand when he got it stuck in a recliner
-Farnsworth kicked a (metal) fan
-Didn't Farnsworth also allegedly break his toe by trying to punt a baseball?
-Chad Gaudin got drunk and fell into a dumpster or something.
-Sosa threw out his back sneezing

Am I missing any other really good ones?

DPD.


Sad how many of these involve Cubs.

[Yeti]

What about sending some prospects, cash, and Miggy to the Brewers for Lucroy? The Brewers want to trade him, he projects to bounce back pretty well from an injury plagued 2015, was worth 13 wins from 2012-2014 before he got hurt, and is under team control through 2017. At that point you should know if Contreras really is ready to be your full time catcher, but in the meantime you get a guy who is almost certainly better than whatever is left of Montero's corpse while you make your title run.

Which prospects?

I dunno, presumably some mid-level and maybe one upper-level, in the abstract.

He's only got 2 years of control and he's coming off an injury plagued year, so maybe like Jeimer Candelario and some other stuff? If their Khris Davis trade is any indication they'll gamble on toolsy guys with upside.

I don't think they'd need to part with Gleyber or McKinney or Contreras, but some guys in that second tier.

I'm hearing Candelario being talked up this year and I'm trying to discern if it's the Cubs' PR machine pumping him up or if the dude's a real prospect after an admittedly decent Age 21 season at AA.  In any event, if the Brewers were okay with dealing LaCroy for the likes of Candelario then by all means, they can be my guest.

He was a guy that got a lot of love before 2014 if I remember correctly. He has a lot of raw tools and his contact skills were highly praised. He fell off a lot of people's radars with a crappy 2014 and with the other prospects in the system being instant superstars, but then he hit well this year and he's considered a fairly legit prospect.

MLB Pipeline had him as a top ten 3B prospect, as did Keith Law, although both said he was just outside top 100 prospect status.


I doubt he alone would be enough to get Lucroy but it doesn't seem like the Brewers have much in the way of 3rd base prospects. He'd be a nice start to the package.

I'd think Candelario, Miggy and Almora gets it done.

Somebody get on the phone with Hoyer's secretary!

Lucroy is a player who gets injured making his bed or packing a suitcase.
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/brewers/brewers-jonathan-lucroy-looks-to-rebound-in-2016-from-injury-filled-season-b99588582z1-330500461.html

That makes him a good fit for a franchise that once had a player who missed a game because he couldn't open his eyelids.

-Mike Remlinger broke his hand when he got it stuck in a recliner
-Farnsworth kicked a (metal) fan
-Didn't Farnsworth also allegedly break his toe by trying to punt a baseball?
-Chad Gaudin got drunk and fell into a dumpster or something.
-Sosa threw out his back sneezing

Am I missing any other really good ones?

DPD.


Sad how many of these involve Cubs.

I'm surprised you Dempster-haters didn't jump on the opportunity to point out his broken toe over the dugout railing

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

Yeti courageously defending Ryan Dempster as he plays his awful Harry Caray impression on a loop and laughs himself to sleep.

[Saul Goodman]

Did Ron Santo ever screw up his heel-click, sprain an ankle and miss a game or two? If not, that's an incredible run. Really should have been put in the Hall a lot sooner.

[Quality Start Machine]

Did Ron Santo ever screw up his heel-click, sprain an ankle and miss a game or two? If not, that's an incredible run. Really should have been put in the Hall a lot sooner.

Yeah, but I don't think he did it that long...maybe only a couple months in 1969.

I'm surprised Joe Wallis was never an on-field fatality.

[Brownie]

Everyone has forgotten about another fading blog star?

[Powdered Toast Man]

Everyone has forgotten about another fading blog star?

That is one hell of a story that I'm just finding out about.

[SKO]

I really want Andrew Miller, but just in case the Yankees don't sell, and I'm sure the Cubs will add another arm for the pen regardless, anyone up for a reunion with Fernando Rodney?

[Quality Start Machine]

I really want Andrew Miller, but just in case the Yankees don't sell, and I'm sure the Cubs will add another arm for the pen regardless, anyone up for a reunion with Fernando Rodney?

He'd be fun, but they really need a lefty.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

I really want Andrew Miller, but just in case the Yankees don't sell, and I'm sure the Cubs will add another arm for the pen regardless, anyone up for a reunion with Fernando Rodney?

He'd be fun, but they really need a lefty.

Yeah, no thanks to Rodney, but yes to Miller.

Also, I wonder if they'll try to add a starter.  If they're looking to improve on Hammel at 4, then it shouldn't cost them much but if they look to bring in someone whose caliber knocks Lackey down to #4, then it'd be bye-bye Gleybar (or whomever).

[SKO]

I really want Andrew Miller, but just in case the Yankees don't sell, and I'm sure the Cubs will add another arm for the pen regardless, anyone up for a reunion with Fernando Rodney?

He'd be fun, but they really need a lefty.

There just aren't too many great lefty relievers out there on non-contending teams. If the Yankees don't put Miller on the market the Cubs could go after Sean Doolittle and that's about it. The Astros have Tony Sipp but he's been kind of bad, and Will Smith of the Brewers has yet to pitch due to injury. Those are some options. I'd rather just have another good right handed closer type rather than reach for a lefty just because he's a lefty.

[Eli]

There just aren't too many great lefty relievers out there on non-contending teams. If the Yankees don't put Miller on the market the Cubs could go after Sean Doolittle and that's about it. The Astros have Tony Sipp but he's been kind of bad, and Will Smith of the Brewers has yet to pitch due to injury. Those are some options. I'd rather just have another good right handed closer type rather than reach for a lefty just because he's a lefty.

Sean's girlfriend would be an excellent addition to Cubs Twitter, so that's a potential bonus.

[World's #1 Astros Fan]

There just aren't too many great lefty relievers out there on non-contending teams. If the Yankees don't put Miller on the market the Cubs could go after Sean Doolittle and that's about it. The Astros have Tony Sipp but he's been kind of bad, and Will Smith of the Brewers has yet to pitch due to injury. Those are some options. I'd rather just have another good right handed closer type rather than reach for a lefty just because he's a lefty.

Sean's girlfriend would be an excellent addition to Cubs Twitter, so that's a potential bonus.

*Turns on the PenSignal*

[Oleg]

There just aren't too many great lefty relievers out there on non-contending teams. If the Yankees don't put Miller on the market the Cubs could go after Sean Doolittle and that's about it. The Astros have Tony Sipp but he's been kind of bad, and Will Smith of the Brewers has yet to pitch due to injury. Those are some options. I'd rather just have another good right handed closer type rather than reach for a lefty just because he's a lefty.

Sean's girlfriend would be an excellent addition to Cubs Twitter, so that's a potential bonus.

And, she's from Chicago, or Chicagoland, and that will matter to meatballs.

[SKO]

Mully and Hanley wanted to trade Kyle Schwarber for Andrew Miller this morning and the vast majority of their fans agreed. Why are the people who cover and root for this team so stupid. Why is this a thing