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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #645 on: July 10, 2017, 03:43:36 PM »
Quote from: Oleg on July 10, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
DPD.

Detroit can't possibly be this crazy, right?

Yeah, how dare they set their negotiating anchor high. Should've read The Art of The Deal.

I think he meant crazy as in considering trading either of those guys not crazy in their asking price, whatever it may be.

Seriously, other than Bryant or Rizzo, I'd pretty much be willing to discuss anybody else in the Cubs organization if Detroit is willing to discuss Fulmer.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #646 on: July 10, 2017, 04:45:21 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on July 10, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
DPD.

Detroit can't possibly be this crazy, right?

Yeah, how dare they set their negotiating anchor high. Should've read The Art of The Deal.

I think he meant crazy as in considering trading either of those guys not crazy in their asking price, whatever it may be.

Seriously, other than Bryant or Rizzo, I'd pretty much be willing to discuss anybody else in the Cubs organization if Detroit is willing to discuss Fulmer.

My fault for misreading a Forkpost. I would also like quality controllable starting pitching. It won't come free.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #647 on: July 11, 2017, 08:18:05 AM »
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on July 10, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
DPD.

Detroit can't possibly be this crazy, right?

Yeah, how dare they set their negotiating anchor high. Should've read The Art of The Deal.

I think he meant crazy as in considering trading either of those guys not crazy in their asking price, whatever it may be.

Seriously, other than Bryant or Rizzo, I'd pretty much be willing to discuss anybody else in the Cubs organization if Detroit is willing to discuss Fulmer.

My fault for misreading a Forkpost. I would also like quality controllable starting pitching. It won't come free.

I actually wonder if Jepstink already have thrown in the towel on going the rental route and are only exploring this option. But yeah, I'm pretty sure any GM worth his salt asks for Eloy first, then the haggling commences.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #648 on: July 12, 2017, 08:34:58 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 11, 2017, 08:18:05 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on July 10, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
DPD.

Detroit can't possibly be this crazy, right?

Yeah, how dare they set their negotiating anchor high. Should've read The Art of The Deal.

I think he meant crazy as in considering trading either of those guys not crazy in their asking price, whatever it may be.

Seriously, other than Bryant or Rizzo, I'd pretty much be willing to discuss anybody else in the Cubs organization if Detroit is willing to discuss Fulmer.

My fault for misreading a Forkpost. I would also like quality controllable starting pitching. It won't come free.

I actually wonder if Jepstink already have thrown in the towel on going the rental route and are only exploring this option. But yeah, I'm pretty sure any GM worth his salt asks for Eloy first, then the haggling commences.

They don't have enough blue chippers left to trade for a controllable starter and a rental, and they're not 1 player away from fixing this. A rental would be dumb. I expect they will try for a big time, controlled starter and then probably trade a non-prospect for some Dan Haren-esque innings eater who can at least be expected to not meltdown every 5th day.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #649 on: July 12, 2017, 02:07:28 PM »
Quote from: SKO on July 12, 2017, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 11, 2017, 08:18:05 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on July 10, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
DPD.

Detroit can't possibly be this crazy, right?

Yeah, how dare they set their negotiating anchor high. Should've read The Art of The Deal.

I think he meant crazy as in considering trading either of those guys not crazy in their asking price, whatever it may be.

Seriously, other than Bryant or Rizzo, I'd pretty much be willing to discuss anybody else in the Cubs organization if Detroit is willing to discuss Fulmer.

My fault for misreading a Forkpost. I would also like quality controllable starting pitching. It won't come free.

I actually wonder if Jepstink already have thrown in the towel on going the rental route and are only exploring this option. But yeah, I'm pretty sure any GM worth his salt asks for Eloy first, then the haggling commences.

They don't have enough blue chippers left to trade for a controllable starter and a rental, and they're not 1 player away from fixing this. A rental would be dumb. I expect they will try for a big time, controlled starter and then probably trade a non-prospect for some Dan Haren-esque innings eater who can at least be expected to not meltdown every 5th day.

They keep mining for these uptapped potential guys who haven't panneded out, like Butler or Alec Mills. I'm not sure they've got bullets they want to use to land a Chris Archer.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #650 on: July 12, 2017, 07:43:23 PM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 12, 2017, 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 12, 2017, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 11, 2017, 08:18:05 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on July 10, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
DPD.

Detroit can't possibly be this crazy, right?

Yeah, how dare they set their negotiating anchor high. Should've read The Art of The Deal.

I think he meant crazy as in considering trading either of those guys not crazy in their asking price, whatever it may be.

Seriously, other than Bryant or Rizzo, I'd pretty much be willing to discuss anybody else in the Cubs organization if Detroit is willing to discuss Fulmer.

My fault for misreading a Forkpost. I would also like quality controllable starting pitching. It won't come free.

I actually wonder if Jepstink already have thrown in the towel on going the rental route and are only exploring this option. But yeah, I'm pretty sure any GM worth his salt asks for Eloy first, then the haggling commences.

They don't have enough blue chippers left to trade for a controllable starter and a rental, and they're not 1 player away from fixing this. A rental would be dumb. I expect they will try for a big time, controlled starter and then probably trade a non-prospect for some Dan Haren-esque innings eater who can at least be expected to not meltdown every 5th day.

They keep mining for these uptapped potential guys who haven't panneded out, like Butler or Alec Mills. I'm not sure they've got bullets they want to use to land a Chris Archer.

They're going to have to at some point, aren't they? The system doesn't have a top-of-the-rotation guy anywhere close to the bigs, and Yu Darvish is about the only FA who fits that description.

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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #651 on: July 13, 2017, 08:09:31 AM »
Quote from: Shooter on July 12, 2017, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 12, 2017, 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 12, 2017, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 11, 2017, 08:18:05 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on July 10, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
DPD.

Detroit can't possibly be this crazy, right?

Yeah, how dare they set their negotiating anchor high. Should've read The Art of The Deal.

I think he meant crazy as in considering trading either of those guys not crazy in their asking price, whatever it may be.

Seriously, other than Bryant or Rizzo, I'd pretty much be willing to discuss anybody else in the Cubs organization if Detroit is willing to discuss Fulmer.

My fault for misreading a Forkpost. I would also like quality controllable starting pitching. It won't come free.

I actually wonder if Jepstink already have thrown in the towel on going the rental route and are only exploring this option. But yeah, I'm pretty sure any GM worth his salt asks for Eloy first, then the haggling commences.

They don't have enough blue chippers left to trade for a controllable starter and a rental, and they're not 1 player away from fixing this. A rental would be dumb. I expect they will try for a big time, controlled starter and then probably trade a non-prospect for some Dan Haren-esque innings eater who can at least be expected to not meltdown every 5th day.

They keep mining for these uptapped potential guys who haven't panneded out, like Butler or Alec Mills. I'm not sure they've got bullets they want to use to land a Chris Archer.

They're going to have to at some point, aren't they? The system doesn't have a top-of-the-rotation guy anywhere close to the bigs, and Yu Darvish is about the only FA who fits that description.

They can certainly go after Darvish, all he'll cost is money and a draft pick - not a big deal, since they'll get two after Jake and Davis get qualified. But thanks to Jake's inconsistency, Darvish will be the big-ticket item on the FA pitching market this winter...

...makes me wonder if Jepstink are watching Jake's value fall and thinking 6/120 might be doable now.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #652 on: July 13, 2017, 08:15:40 AM »
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 13, 2017, 08:09:31 AM
Quote from: Shooter on July 12, 2017, 07:43:23 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 12, 2017, 02:07:28 PM
Quote from: SKO on July 12, 2017, 08:34:58 AM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 11, 2017, 08:18:05 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 04:45:21 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 03:43:36 PM
Quote from: Oleg on July 10, 2017, 03:30:33 PM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 10, 2017, 03:13:53 PM
Quote from: Quality Start Machine on July 10, 2017, 02:06:55 PM
DPD.

Detroit can't possibly be this crazy, right?

Yeah, how dare they set their negotiating anchor high. Should've read The Art of The Deal.

I think he meant crazy as in considering trading either of those guys not crazy in their asking price, whatever it may be.

Seriously, other than Bryant or Rizzo, I'd pretty much be willing to discuss anybody else in the Cubs organization if Detroit is willing to discuss Fulmer.

My fault for misreading a Forkpost. I would also like quality controllable starting pitching. It won't come free.

I actually wonder if Jepstink already have thrown in the towel on going the rental route and are only exploring this option. But yeah, I'm pretty sure any GM worth his salt asks for Eloy first, then the haggling commences.

They don't have enough blue chippers left to trade for a controllable starter and a rental, and they're not 1 player away from fixing this. A rental would be dumb. I expect they will try for a big time, controlled starter and then probably trade a non-prospect for some Dan Haren-esque innings eater who can at least be expected to not meltdown every 5th day.

They keep mining for these uptapped potential guys who haven't panneded out, like Butler or Alec Mills. I'm not sure they've got bullets they want to use to land a Chris Archer.

They're going to have to at some point, aren't they? The system doesn't have a top-of-the-rotation guy anywhere close to the bigs, and Yu Darvish is about the only FA who fits that description.

They can certainly go after Darvish, all he'll cost is money and a draft pick - not a big deal, since they'll get two after Jake and Davis get qualified. But thanks to Jake's inconsistency, Darvish will be the big-ticket item on the FA pitching market this winter...

...makes me wonder if Jepstink are watching Jake's value fall and thinking 6/120 might be doable now.

I can't imagine guaranteeing Jake 6 years of anything. He's a below average starter now and his velocity is down 3 ticks after two workhorse seasons. No thanks.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #653 on: July 13, 2017, 10:27:35 AM »
ELOY+CEASE and some stuff for JOSE FUCKING QUINTANA
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #654 on: July 13, 2017, 10:38:08 AM »
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
ELOY+CEASE and some stuff for JOSE FUCKING QUINTANA

Wow. Turns out Theo and the dudes were a little busy over the break.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #655 on: July 13, 2017, 10:51:33 AM »
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 13, 2017, 10:38:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
ELOY+CEASE and some stuff for JOSE FUCKING QUINTANA

Wow. Turns out Theo and the dudes were a little busy over the break.

Welcome to Chicago, Jose!

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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #656 on: July 13, 2017, 11:18:21 AM »
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 13, 2017, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 13, 2017, 10:38:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
ELOY+CEASE and some stuff for JOSE FUCKING QUINTANA

Wow. Turns out Theo and the dudes were a little busy over the break.

Welcome to Chicago, Jose!

For their next trick, bring us Marcus Stroman.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #657 on: July 13, 2017, 11:25:39 AM »
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 13, 2017, 11:18:21 AM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on July 13, 2017, 10:51:33 AM
Quote from: Saul Goodman on July 13, 2017, 10:38:08 AM
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
ELOY+CEASE and some stuff for JOSE FUCKING QUINTANA

Wow. Turns out Theo and the dudes were a little busy over the break.

Welcome to Chicago, Jose!

For their next trick, bring us Marcus Stroman.

I don't think they have the prospects left for that. Or really any big deal. Any further trades will be guys like Candelario (depth they don't need) for some 2017 version of Dan Haren or depth they do need. Then with Hendricks/Quintana and possibly Montgomery holding down 3/5ths of the rotation for cheap they can go out and pay big bucks for Darvish if they want.
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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #658 on: July 13, 2017, 11:28:07 AM »
Quote from: SKO on July 13, 2017, 10:27:35 AM
ELOY+CEASE and some stuff for JOSE FUCKING QUINTANA

I think Rose's nickname was "Dee" and Flete's nickname was "Cyst."

Good trade for a controllable starter.

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Re: Reasonable Trade Discussion
« Reply #659 on: July 13, 2017, 11:52:13 AM »
The rebuild really broke some people's fucking brains because apparently there is no trade ever that is worth the Cubs giving up a top ten prospect even if that guy plays a blocked position and is in A ball. NEVER GIVE UP PROZPEKTS.
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