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Title: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: Brownie on November 26, 2017, 12:42:47 PM
I only assume this as it has been 48 hours and Mike Donohue has failed to properly mark the passing of Bears draft bust John Thierry.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on November 27, 2017, 08:33:16 AM
Not dead, nor did I go into seizures upon seeing the orange links (and  SKO threw out an APB on Twitter (https://twitter.com/StartKyleOrton/status/934545836721213440) also but I was generally unplugged all weekend).

To re-phrase what I replied with...

Curtises Conway and (P)Enis, and Walt Harris (but not Rashaan Salaam) outlast another one.

Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.

DPD

You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: R-V on November 27, 2017, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.

DPD

You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.

Can confirm that this amazing nickname was the first thing that popped into my head when I heard the news Thierry had not outlasted Alonzo Spellman.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: SKO on November 27, 2017, 10:09:38 AM
Quote from: R-V on November 27, 2017, 09:27:38 AM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.

DPD

You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.

Can confirm that this amazing nickname was the first thing that popped into my head when I heard the news Thierry had not outlasted Alonzo Spellman.

same. also that Wanny compared him to Charles Haley when drafting him.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: Bort on November 27, 2017, 01:38:59 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.

DPD

You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.

I did remember, but obviously Garbanzo Beans outlasted him.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: Quality Start Machine on November 27, 2017, 01:52:58 PM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 01:38:59 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
Quote from: Bort on November 27, 2017, 07:24:07 AM
Garbanzobeanz outlasts another one.

DPD

You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

If I were to guess at anyone to have made reference to this it'd have been RV but of course he, too, has been dead for a long time.

I did remember, but obviously Garbanzo Beans outlasted him.

It's clearly the Morgan Freeman of nicknames.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?

OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on November 27, 2017, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?

OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.

Jim Flanigan fucking sucked, sorry.

Walt Harris was a decent player for a few years.  I would actually say he was their best draft pick (with Raymont a close second) and that is just so fucking sad, particularly when you factor in the fact that Wannstedt gets paid to talk about the NFL on the SCORE.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: CBStew on November 27, 2017, 02:40:31 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 02:15:09 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?

OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.

Jim Flanigan fucking sucked, sorry.

Walt Harris was a decent player for a few years.  I would actually say he was their best draft pick (with Raymont a close second) and that is just so fucking sad, particularly when you factor in the fact that Wannstedt gets paid to talk about the NFL on the SCORE.
I have often wondered about the Bears' predilection for drafting mediocre players from mediocre Mid-Western schools.  Don't they subscribe to newspapers that aren't published in Illinois or Indiana?  Do their TV sets not get stations located outside of those states? 
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?

OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.

Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on November 27, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?

OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.

Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?

Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).

And Holdman's a good call.  For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).

Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: SKO on November 27, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?

OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.

Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?

Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).

And Holdman's a good call.  For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).

Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.

Curtis Conway had over 8,000 yards receiving in his career and played for over a decade despite never playing with a quarterback better than Rookie Drew Brees. He caught passes from Rick Mirer AND Ryan Leaf. He was a fine pick, but there's never really been any point to being a quality receiver on the Bears.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on November 27, 2017, 03:27:51 PM
Just to round this out, I will add that Marcus Robinson (1997), Tony Parrish and Patrick Mannelly (both 1998) proved to not be 100% dogshit, which  was pretty much the bar Wannstedt set.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: World's #1 Astros Fan on November 27, 2017, 03:30:54 PM
DPD

And Colvin wouldn't count as he was drafted in 1999.

*(I should add that Wannstedt was essentially replaced in making draft selections by Mark Hatley either right before or right after the 1997 draft so he wouldn't even really get credit for Parrish and Mannelly (and possibly Robinson) anyway).
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 03:34:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?

OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.

Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?

Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).

And Holdman's a good call.  For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).

Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.

Curtis Conway had over 8,000 yards receiving in his career and played for over a decade despite never playing with a quarterback better than Rookie Drew Brees. He caught passes from Rick Mirer AND Ryan Leaf. He was a fine pick, but there's never really been any point to being a quality receiver on the Bears.

He was a decent WR, but a shitty pick at #7 overall for a junior who only really had one and a half collegiate seasons as a WR.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: SKO on November 27, 2017, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 03:34:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?

OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.

Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?

Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).

And Holdman's a good call.  For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).

Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.

Curtis Conway had over 8,000 yards receiving in his career and played for over a decade despite never playing with a quarterback better than Rookie Drew Brees. He caught passes from Rick Mirer AND Ryan Leaf. He was a fine pick, but there's never really been any point to being a quality receiver on the Bears.

He was a decent WR, but a shitty pick at #7 overall for a junior who only really had one and a half collegiate seasons as a WR.

His pedigree in college is irrelevant, he was a good NFL receiver. If he'd had even remotely competent quarterback play for most of his career he'd have been a 10,000+ yard receiver. They also had bigger needs at WR at the time than on the OL (where HOF Willie Roaf went with the next pick) or on defense (where the best pick would have been Strahan, but he was underrated by every single team in that draft and went in the middle of the 2nd round anyway). It was a perfectly defensible lottery pick and it was a player who had a solid NFL career.
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: Saul Goodman on November 27, 2017, 04:14:33 PM
All of this talk has made me grateful that Ryan Pace is here now to blow all our tits off with some kickass draft picks. *quickly shoves Kevin White under the rug*
Title: Re: Mike D., DOWN IN FRONT
Post by: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 04:34:40 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2017, 04:02:54 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 03:34:52 PM
Quote from: SKO on November 27, 2017, 03:22:11 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 03:01:06 PM
Quote from: Brownie on November 27, 2017, 02:57:34 PM
Quote from: Chuck to Chuck on November 27, 2017, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Huey Potatohead on November 27, 2017, 08:38:56 AM
You may recall (and if you do, then kudos) that one of my more ignominious nickname-dispensings--and one for which I took a similar beating to the one I took (at the time) for Garbanzo Beans for Tom Gorzellany, before Garbanzo Beans proved more enduring, was John Thierry-Of-Relatively-Awful-Wannstedt-Picks

Who were the good Wanny picks? John Allred? Marcus Spears? Carl Simpson? Pat Riley? Todd Sauerbum? Paul Grasmanis?

OK, you can have Raymont and Jim Flannigan.

Olin Kreutz? Chris Villarial? Warrick Holdman?

Shit I guess I forgot that Kreutz was in Wanny's last draft in '98 (the Penis Draft).

And Holdman's a good call.  For that matter, ditto Rosy Colvin (unless Jauron drafted Colvin).

Even then...it's some pretty weak tea for 6 draft classes.

Curtis Conway had over 8,000 yards receiving in his career and played for over a decade despite never playing with a quarterback better than Rookie Drew Brees. He caught passes from Rick Mirer AND Ryan Leaf. He was a fine pick, but there's never really been any point to being a quality receiver on the Bears.

He was a decent WR, but a shitty pick at #7 overall for a junior who only really had one and a half collegiate seasons as a WR.

His pedigree in college is irrelevant, he was a good NFL receiver. If he'd had even remotely competent quarterback play for most of his career he'd have been a 10,000+ yard receiver. They also had bigger needs at WR at the time than on the OL (where HOF Willie Roaf went with the next pick) or on defense (where the best pick would have been Strahan, but he was underrated by every single team in that draft and went in the middle of the 2nd round anyway). It was a perfectly defensible lottery pick and it was a player who had a solid NFL career.

Assume you are making an NBA joke or something.